May 13, 2025 • 6 mins
Why are we still using firing squads as a method of execution? It happened in South Carolina, and it didn’t go well. Listen here for all the full details!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Cooper Flag is going to be a Dallas Maverick. They
are not going to entertain trade offers. They're going to
draft their guy, one of the biggest prospects to come
out I don't know, and a decade maybe, I mean
just a can't miss number one pick. And the MAVs
moved up from the eleventh pick, and they won the lottery.
They had the number one overall pick and a huge
(00:20):
draft where a SuperStar's coming out, very very exciting stuff
for a team that had a free fall from making
it to the finals, traded their fan base his favorite player,
and suddenly things are looking bright again. Just a miraculous
turn of events. We'll get back into the Cooper Flag
pick coming up here in just a matter of moments.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
But right now it's time for.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
This, guys. Let's go to Kevin.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
And now for the latest in crime. Serial killers, cold cases,
cult leaders, and blood. You know him, you fear him.
It's time for true crime KT.
Speaker 5 (00:53):
Kevin, what's your question for oday?
Speaker 6 (00:55):
I have any questions for oj many You remember a
couple months ago we just discus that a firing squad
execution was set to take place in South Carolina.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Yes, and when that story happened, You guys are like, what.
Speaker 7 (01:08):
I don't and I don't remember when was the last
time we had firing squads, like seventies.
Speaker 6 (01:12):
I know we discussed it when we did this story
three months ago, but I don't know that I don't
remember that.
Speaker 5 (01:16):
Yeah, I think it happened in the seventies.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
We had one last month and uh, pretty hot. It
didn't go great.
Speaker 6 (01:23):
Yep, here's what happens with these firing squad executions. They
also they have people there, local news or the Associated
Press are there to cover it as a witness reporter.
Speaker 7 (01:33):
Oh do they still blindfold the guy and put a
lit cigarette in his mouth?
Speaker 3 (01:38):
No, they don't, don't like back in the day.
Speaker 5 (01:42):
It's hard.
Speaker 7 (01:43):
Look, I realized that this that we're talking about the
death of a person, But this is so archaic and
cave man ish.
Speaker 5 (01:50):
I can't help but like laugh about this.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
What else would they do? They electrocute them, or they
do legal injection. Yeah, we've had some failures that lately too.
I mean, we saw the Green Mile. You saw that
somebody could make sure that the sponge and wet.
Speaker 5 (02:05):
Never saw the green mile.
Speaker 6 (02:08):
Go ahead.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Give a weekend to it.
Speaker 5 (02:10):
It's take always does Walt Goggins die in that?
Speaker 6 (02:14):
Okay, no different one. This lotus a TV show different
than the movie.
Speaker 5 (02:19):
Yeah, that is the most shocking thing I've ever heard
you say.
Speaker 6 (02:21):
What Like Jurassic Park is a big one too, But
the Green Mile, I.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Just actually not surprised that he hasn't seen.
Speaker 5 (02:27):
So yeah, I was like, all another Tom Hanks lib movie.
Speaker 6 (02:30):
I'm good, Sorry, No, you're good. How many people do
you guys think was on the firing squad six?
Speaker 1 (02:38):
I think the more the better, because the thing is,
you don't want anyone to know they're the one who
for sure shot him, or that they're going to.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
You want a bunch of people to shoot at the guy.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
They don't care though, and then it's fires blanks and
then they're like.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
I don't know, did I get him? Did you get them?
I don't know, I don't know. We had blanks. One
guy had a real bullet.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Give him mind. This guy did kill an off duty
police officer long ago.
Speaker 7 (02:57):
Yeah, it's I mean, it's something bad happened to siputate
the firing squad?
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Is there a spot they're supposed to hit him? Like
right the four.
Speaker 7 (03:06):
And you know, like in the early days of firing squad.
They had to adjust this because originally they all got
in a circle around the guy and that did not
end well.
Speaker 5 (03:16):
I would.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Say it'd be better if there was more. So, if
you had at least six, I think it'd be better.
They had three. They only had three.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Oh no, a good shot.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
Was it three people that had fired a gun before?
It's three people?
Speaker 6 (03:31):
And his legal team has fouled a complaint because a
forensic pathologist has viewed the autopsy, the photographs, and they've
determined that only two bullets hit him, So one guy
just missed.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Wait everyone had the bullets. Also, wait, everyone had bullets.
No one had blanks.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Yeah, everyone had bullets.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Sh my god, I thought you weren't. I thought it
was like certain guys had blanks.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
What's a blank.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
It's a fake bullet, So you don't know if you're
the one who kills or not.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Supposed to destroy, like destroy the guy.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
I think.
Speaker 6 (04:03):
Then also, they missed his heart largely. Two of them hit,
so he kills over he's groaning and the reporter from
the Associated Press that he's there just groaning for like
two minutes after he got hit because they missed his heart.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Maybe he shouldn't have murdered a guy.
Speaker 6 (04:19):
Well a long time ago though, but still a cruel
punishment was something we don't do.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
I don't care he killed the guy.
Speaker 5 (04:26):
Why wouldn't they walk up and shoot him some more?
Like you know what I'm saying, like, what what? What
are the rules here? What are we trying to achieve?
Speaker 2 (04:35):
This?
Speaker 6 (04:35):
Forensic pathologist said, quote did one member of the execution
team miss him entirely?
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Did they not fire at all?
Speaker 5 (04:43):
How did the two who did shoot him miss his heart?
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Like?
Speaker 3 (04:46):
How does that happen? Did the one guy buckle under pressure?
Speaker 5 (04:48):
You know, he starts contemplating everything like I.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Don't want to kill him.
Speaker 5 (04:51):
Man, I don't want to kill him.
Speaker 6 (04:52):
Man.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
Was he was he cuffed or did he was he
able to run around?
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Run around?
Speaker 6 (04:58):
God?
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Who cares? Why would anyone? Like? I hope nobody?
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Because it's inhumane, But it's also in humane to murder
a police officer.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Maybe don't do that now.
Speaker 5 (05:09):
I agree with all that.
Speaker 6 (05:10):
I I the cop was not a cop at the time,
he was off duty. To me, he's his other PERSONA.
Speaker 5 (05:17):
I don't know about that.
Speaker 7 (05:18):
Take to me, death penalty and abortion in these things
they're very difficult things to I know some people have
very strong beliefs and they think they're right no matter what,
and that's fine too, but these are not easy answers
to me. I get, I get I'm rational, Bill on
these things.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
I get it.
Speaker 7 (05:38):
They're very tricky and confusing, and I get it. And
I don't really know a good way for an execution
to happen. Otherwise we wouldn't be going back to a
firing squad. It is so happening like on a remote
part of Cuba with Castro watching, like it just seems
so other century, you know.
Speaker 6 (06:01):
Yeah, well that's the lightest turn I could take on
a very dark story. Good job, Kevin, that's my question
for j. All Right, there he goes Kevin K T.
Turner with the true crime KT coming up next around
the sports. Let's get back into the MAVs getting the
number one pick. This is just over three minutes away.
Don't go nowhere,
Cooper Flag is going to be a Dallas Maverick. They
are not going to entertain trade offers. They're going to
draft their guy, one of the biggest prospects to come
out I don't know, and a decade maybe, I mean
just a can't miss number one pick. And the MAVs
moved up from the eleventh pick, and they won the lottery.
They had the number one overall pick and a huge
(00:20):
draft where a SuperStar's coming out, very very exciting stuff
for a team that had a free fall from making
it to the finals, traded their fan base his favorite player,
and suddenly things are looking bright again. Just a miraculous
turn of events. We'll get back into the Cooper Flag
pick coming up here in just a matter of moments.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
But right now it's time for.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
This, guys. Let's go to Kevin.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
And now for the latest in crime. Serial killers, cold cases,
cult leaders, and blood. You know him, you fear him.
It's time for true crime KT.
Speaker 5 (00:53):
Kevin, what's your question for oday?
Speaker 6 (00:55):
I have any questions for oj many You remember a
couple months ago we just discus that a firing squad
execution was set to take place in South Carolina.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Yes, and when that story happened, You guys are like, what.
Speaker 7 (01:08):
I don't and I don't remember when was the last
time we had firing squads, like seventies.
Speaker 6 (01:12):
I know we discussed it when we did this story
three months ago, but I don't know that I don't
remember that.
Speaker 5 (01:16):
Yeah, I think it happened in the seventies.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
We had one last month and uh, pretty hot. It
didn't go great.
Speaker 6 (01:23):
Yep, here's what happens with these firing squad executions. They
also they have people there, local news or the Associated
Press are there to cover it as a witness reporter.
Speaker 7 (01:33):
Oh do they still blindfold the guy and put a
lit cigarette in his mouth?
Speaker 3 (01:38):
No, they don't, don't like back in the day.
Speaker 5 (01:42):
It's hard.
Speaker 7 (01:43):
Look, I realized that this that we're talking about the
death of a person, But this is so archaic and
cave man ish.
Speaker 5 (01:50):
I can't help but like laugh about this.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
What else would they do? They electrocute them, or they
do legal injection. Yeah, we've had some failures that lately too.
I mean, we saw the Green Mile. You saw that
somebody could make sure that the sponge and wet.
Speaker 5 (02:05):
Never saw the green mile.
Speaker 6 (02:08):
Go ahead.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Give a weekend to it.
Speaker 5 (02:10):
It's take always does Walt Goggins die in that?
Speaker 6 (02:14):
Okay, no different one. This lotus a TV show different
than the movie.
Speaker 5 (02:19):
Yeah, that is the most shocking thing I've ever heard
you say.
Speaker 6 (02:21):
What Like Jurassic Park is a big one too, But
the Green Mile, I.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Just actually not surprised that he hasn't seen.
Speaker 5 (02:27):
So yeah, I was like, all another Tom Hanks lib movie.
Speaker 6 (02:30):
I'm good, Sorry, No, you're good. How many people do
you guys think was on the firing squad six?
Speaker 1 (02:38):
I think the more the better, because the thing is,
you don't want anyone to know they're the one who
for sure shot him, or that they're going to.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
You want a bunch of people to shoot at the guy.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
They don't care though, and then it's fires blanks and
then they're like.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
I don't know, did I get him? Did you get them?
I don't know, I don't know. We had blanks. One
guy had a real bullet.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Give him mind. This guy did kill an off duty
police officer long ago.
Speaker 7 (02:57):
Yeah, it's I mean, it's something bad happened to siputate
the firing squad?
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Is there a spot they're supposed to hit him? Like
right the four.
Speaker 7 (03:06):
And you know, like in the early days of firing squad.
They had to adjust this because originally they all got
in a circle around the guy and that did not
end well.
Speaker 5 (03:16):
I would.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Say it'd be better if there was more. So, if
you had at least six, I think it'd be better.
They had three. They only had three.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Oh no, a good shot.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
Was it three people that had fired a gun before?
It's three people?
Speaker 6 (03:31):
And his legal team has fouled a complaint because a
forensic pathologist has viewed the autopsy, the photographs, and they've
determined that only two bullets hit him, So one guy
just missed.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Wait everyone had the bullets. Also, wait, everyone had bullets.
No one had blanks.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Yeah, everyone had bullets.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Sh my god, I thought you weren't. I thought it
was like certain guys had blanks.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
What's a blank.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
It's a fake bullet, So you don't know if you're
the one who kills or not.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Supposed to destroy, like destroy the guy.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
I think.
Speaker 6 (04:03):
Then also, they missed his heart largely. Two of them hit,
so he kills over he's groaning and the reporter from
the Associated Press that he's there just groaning for like
two minutes after he got hit because they missed his heart.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Maybe he shouldn't have murdered a guy.
Speaker 6 (04:19):
Well a long time ago though, but still a cruel
punishment was something we don't do.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
I don't care he killed the guy.
Speaker 5 (04:26):
Why wouldn't they walk up and shoot him some more?
Like you know what I'm saying, like, what what? What
are the rules here? What are we trying to achieve?
Speaker 2 (04:35):
This?
Speaker 6 (04:35):
Forensic pathologist said, quote did one member of the execution
team miss him entirely?
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Did they not fire at all?
Speaker 5 (04:43):
How did the two who did shoot him miss his heart?
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Like?
Speaker 3 (04:46):
How does that happen? Did the one guy buckle under pressure?
Speaker 5 (04:48):
You know, he starts contemplating everything like I.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Don't want to kill him.
Speaker 5 (04:51):
Man, I don't want to kill him.
Speaker 6 (04:52):
Man.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
Was he was he cuffed or did he was he
able to run around?
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Run around?
Speaker 6 (04:58):
God?
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Who cares? Why would anyone? Like? I hope nobody?
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Because it's inhumane, But it's also in humane to murder
a police officer.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Maybe don't do that now.
Speaker 5 (05:09):
I agree with all that.
Speaker 6 (05:10):
I I the cop was not a cop at the time,
he was off duty. To me, he's his other PERSONA.
Speaker 5 (05:17):
I don't know about that.
Speaker 7 (05:18):
Take to me, death penalty and abortion in these things
they're very difficult things to I know some people have
very strong beliefs and they think they're right no matter what,
and that's fine too, but these are not easy answers
to me. I get, I get I'm rational, Bill on
these things.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
I get it.
Speaker 7 (05:38):
They're very tricky and confusing, and I get it. And
I don't really know a good way for an execution
to happen. Otherwise we wouldn't be going back to a
firing squad. It is so happening like on a remote
part of Cuba with Castro watching, like it just seems
so other century, you know.
Speaker 6 (06:01):
Yeah, well that's the lightest turn I could take on
a very dark story. Good job, Kevin, that's my question
for j. All Right, there he goes Kevin K T.
Turner with the true crime KT coming up next around
the sports. Let's get back into the MAVs getting the
number one pick. This is just over three minutes away.
Don't go nowhere,
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