July 24, 2025 • 5 mins
"What happens when your surgeon is more focused on bingo cards than your vital signs?"In one of the most jaw-dropping and darkly hilarious episodes of The Ben and Skin Show, hosts Ben Rogers, Jeff “Skin” Wade, Kevin “KT” Turner, and Krystina Ray dive into a true crime story so absurd, it sounds like a rejected Scrubs episode—except it’s tragically real.True Crime KT takes center stage with a chilling tale: a man named Bart Rider dies during routine cataract surgery. But when a doctor not even in the room tips off the family, the truth unravels—and it’s unbelievable.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Guys, let's go to Kevin and now for the latest
in crime.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Serial killers, cold cases, cult leaders, and blood and you
know him, you fear him.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
It's time for true crime KT.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
Kevin.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
What's your question for Ojay?
Speaker 3 (00:15):
I will say I have more details on this tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (00:19):
A Chuck E Cheese employee in full costume was arrested
for credit card fraud in Florida.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
More on that tomorrow, Florida.
Speaker 4 (00:27):
It's funny because he's literally walking out with the cop
in the parking hands they left the It's amazing. Yoh.
Speaker 5 (00:36):
There was this thing on TikTok or a lady. You know,
people just post their experiences. She was talking about high
school kids when you hand them the credit card are
taking pictures of it and posting it to Snapchat. Man,
Because yes, someone just bought plane tickets on my credit
card right after I went through the drive through.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Terrible.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
Now, Okay, So I there are certain stories that I
just don't tell you all anything about that happened often.
But I just like, I don't want to tell you
guys anything because I want you guys to hear it
on the air for the first time.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Because I saw this and blew my nuts.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
Off a guy, but then it was art writer I
think was his name, writer like wriit R. He's having
cataract surgery, very common surgery. I've got two audio clips
on a play for you. But he's having normal surgery.
And here's part one of this.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
It is a surgery so common nearly four million will
be performed in the US this year alone. Notes obtained
by nine News Investigates suggests Insight Surgery Center staff noticed
abnormal vital signs eleven minutes into the cataract surgery. By
the time bart Ryder arrived at Skyridge Medical Center a
mile and a half away, his death was all but insured.
(01:40):
An autopsy blamed cardiac arrest.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
It just didn't make sense, that is.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Until she got a call from a doctor not present
in the room and.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
He goes, I'm telling you this because I think that's
a major distraction.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
That doctor's tip outlined a story so absurd.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
That's where I cut it off. Here, any guesses guys
on wine.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
I keep in mind it's a doctor who is not
in the room during the surgery. During the cataracts, contacted
the guy who died his wife and said, look, here's
something you should know.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
I I think that like a lot of these guys
are have some sort of routine or something. Maybe he's
listening to loud music or doing something crazy in the
room that is counterintuitive to the best medical care.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
That was definitely a storyline on scrubs. Uh Turk was
the surgeon and the surgeon they would all like pick.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
A song and dance to it.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
Yeah, so bart Ryder is dead now and that was
his wife.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
You just heard how old was bart r fifty six?
Speaker 4 (02:42):
It's pretty standard, Uh, not old, but they do though
it is a cardiac arrest, it could happen. But here's
what the tip from a doctor who was not in
the room called his wife and said.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
And so she hired a team of lawyers to take
depositions of the surgeon, doctor Starkohnson and the anasty esiologist,
doctor Michael Urban, who then asked both if the tip.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
Was Now that's tricky too because it sounds like Michael
Irvan Michael Urban is the anhesiologist Stark Johnson is the
doctor Okay Johnson.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
And the anastesiologist, doctor Michael Urban, who then asked both
if the tip was true, were you.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
Playing music bingo during bart Writer's February third, twenty twenty three,
cataract surgery.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
Yes, music Bingo, music Bingo, you do that at breweries.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
I'm sorry, I'm not laughing at the death.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
No, No, but this is a wild story. Okay, they're okay,
just Devil's advocate here. They're they're in there all the time.
They're trying to keep fresh, and they're they're just doing
i mean, you're getting they're listening to music anyways. Yeah,
and so it's just like, who's the first person that
can name the song?
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Yeah, all songs of their eyes.
Speaker 5 (03:56):
No, it's not even that they have Bingo cards and
if the song plays, they just put a beat on it.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
Yeah, but it's all eye songs because they're doing cataract surgery.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
It's like, oh, somebody said big go and the guy
has a heart attack because he hears it while he's
knocked out.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
February third, twenty twenty three, cataract surgery.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Yes, that's right, we're.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Talk to you about the music Bingo game.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
The game they played routinely during these routine surgeries. I'm sorry,
bring the music what Bingo game?
Speaker 4 (04:26):
Oh? Thank you.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
The team inside the surgery centers o R would listen
as songs played on doctor Urban cell phone.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
I understand that you would keep score. I would usually,
but not almost keep score.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
We continually listen to the radio and we we categorize
the songs.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Mostly seventies and eighties bands and musicians.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
They said us an example, if the seventies groups were
a saying a song that would be a letter of.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Beat, B was for the Beg's Barry Manilow and for
Neil Young Gee for you get the idea. No one
immediately noticed his skin turning blue, a telltale sign of
oxygen deprivation. He died.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
Good, gone awful. I hope Mark Ryder's wife and kids
get tons of money for this.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Only fifty six.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
They will music fingo and they got a tip from
another doctor's Like I know they've been playing music.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Bingo because we do it too. We do it right,
We do music jeopardy. But it's God, that's a crazy,
crazy story, all right. Coming up next, it's the Today Game.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
It's less than three minutes away, just over three minutes,
and it's the only segment today that won't be podcasted.
Then we got an update on beef prices. Beef meat
is soaring. We'll talk about that next,
Guys, let's go to Kevin and now for the latest
in crime.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Serial killers, cold cases, cult leaders, and blood and you
know him, you fear him.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
It's time for true crime KT.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
Kevin.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
What's your question for Ojay?
Speaker 3 (00:15):
I will say I have more details on this tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (00:19):
A Chuck E Cheese employee in full costume was arrested
for credit card fraud in Florida.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
More on that tomorrow, Florida.
Speaker 4 (00:27):
It's funny because he's literally walking out with the cop
in the parking hands they left the It's amazing. Yoh.
Speaker 5 (00:36):
There was this thing on TikTok or a lady. You know,
people just post their experiences. She was talking about high
school kids when you hand them the credit card are
taking pictures of it and posting it to Snapchat. Man,
Because yes, someone just bought plane tickets on my credit
card right after I went through the drive through.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Terrible.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
Now, Okay, So I there are certain stories that I
just don't tell you all anything about that happened often.
But I just like, I don't want to tell you
guys anything because I want you guys to hear it
on the air for the first time.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Because I saw this and blew my nuts.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
Off a guy, but then it was art writer I
think was his name, writer like wriit R. He's having
cataract surgery, very common surgery. I've got two audio clips
on a play for you. But he's having normal surgery.
And here's part one of this.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
It is a surgery so common nearly four million will
be performed in the US this year alone. Notes obtained
by nine News Investigates suggests Insight Surgery Center staff noticed
abnormal vital signs eleven minutes into the cataract surgery. By
the time bart Ryder arrived at Skyridge Medical Center a
mile and a half away, his death was all but insured.
(01:40):
An autopsy blamed cardiac arrest.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
It just didn't make sense, that is.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Until she got a call from a doctor not present
in the room and.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
He goes, I'm telling you this because I think that's
a major distraction.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
That doctor's tip outlined a story so absurd.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
That's where I cut it off. Here, any guesses guys
on wine.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
I keep in mind it's a doctor who is not
in the room during the surgery. During the cataracts, contacted
the guy who died his wife and said, look, here's
something you should know.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
I I think that like a lot of these guys
are have some sort of routine or something. Maybe he's
listening to loud music or doing something crazy in the
room that is counterintuitive to the best medical care.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
That was definitely a storyline on scrubs. Uh Turk was
the surgeon and the surgeon they would all like pick.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
A song and dance to it.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
Yeah, so bart Ryder is dead now and that was
his wife.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
You just heard how old was bart r fifty six?
Speaker 4 (02:42):
It's pretty standard, Uh, not old, but they do though
it is a cardiac arrest, it could happen. But here's
what the tip from a doctor who was not in
the room called his wife and said.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
And so she hired a team of lawyers to take
depositions of the surgeon, doctor Starkohnson and the anasty esiologist,
doctor Michael Urban, who then asked both if the tip.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
Was Now that's tricky too because it sounds like Michael
Irvan Michael Urban is the anhesiologist Stark Johnson is the
doctor Okay Johnson.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
And the anastesiologist, doctor Michael Urban, who then asked both
if the tip was true, were you.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
Playing music bingo during bart Writer's February third, twenty twenty three,
cataract surgery.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
Yes, music Bingo, music Bingo, you do that at breweries.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
I'm sorry, I'm not laughing at the death.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
No, No, but this is a wild story. Okay, they're okay,
just Devil's advocate here. They're they're in there all the time.
They're trying to keep fresh, and they're they're just doing
i mean, you're getting they're listening to music anyways. Yeah,
and so it's just like, who's the first person that
can name the song?
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Yeah, all songs of their eyes.
Speaker 5 (03:56):
No, it's not even that they have Bingo cards and
if the song plays, they just put a beat on it.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
Yeah, but it's all eye songs because they're doing cataract surgery.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
It's like, oh, somebody said big go and the guy
has a heart attack because he hears it while he's
knocked out.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
February third, twenty twenty three, cataract surgery.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Yes, that's right, we're.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Talk to you about the music Bingo game.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
The game they played routinely during these routine surgeries. I'm sorry,
bring the music what Bingo game?
Speaker 4 (04:26):
Oh? Thank you.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
The team inside the surgery centers o R would listen
as songs played on doctor Urban cell phone.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
I understand that you would keep score. I would usually,
but not almost keep score.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
We continually listen to the radio and we we categorize
the songs.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Mostly seventies and eighties bands and musicians.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
They said us an example, if the seventies groups were
a saying a song that would be a letter of.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Beat, B was for the Beg's Barry Manilow and for
Neil Young Gee for you get the idea. No one
immediately noticed his skin turning blue, a telltale sign of
oxygen deprivation. He died.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
Good, gone awful. I hope Mark Ryder's wife and kids
get tons of money for this.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Only fifty six.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
They will music fingo and they got a tip from
another doctor's Like I know they've been playing music.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Bingo because we do it too. We do it right,
We do music jeopardy. But it's God, that's a crazy,
crazy story, all right. Coming up next, it's the Today Game.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
It's less than three minutes away, just over three minutes,
and it's the only segment today that won't be podcasted.
Then we got an update on beef prices. Beef meat
is soaring. We'll talk about that next,
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