October 15, 2025 • 6 mins
"Is Bill Belichick just 26 wins away from immortality—or from becoming football’s version of Weekend at Bernie’s?"In this wild and hilarious episode of The Ben and Skin Show, Ben Rogers, Jeff “Skin” Wade, Kevin “KT” Turner, and Krystina Ray dive headfirst into the swirling madness of NFL drama, Cowboys dysfunction, and a spicy scandal out of Lubbock.From KT’s outrageous theory about Belichick pulling a “reverse Saban” and taking over the Tennessee Titans, to Jerry Jones allegedly being unable to resist making awkward comments about Belichick’s girlfriend—this episode is packed with jaw-dropping speculation and laugh-out-loud moments.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Ay, Yes, it is the world famous Ben and Skin Show,
and we're gonna be on the road Tomorrow. We're gonna
be at the Trophy Club location of the original Roy
Hutchins Barbecue Trophy Club, So come see us Trophy Club Tomorrow. Friday,
we're gonna be at the Pluckers City View, so we're
gonna be out in the eight one seven. So if
you want to see our show live from three to six,
you can do that tomorrow and on Friday as well.
(00:21):
The weekly weekday updates coming up. We got an audio
bubble bath September news bloopers. But right now it's time
for this Cowboy.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Surprise.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
I thought of an idea.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
This is actually the first part is not Cowboys related,
but it will be in the second. I had a
wild idea about Bill Belichick yesterday. I was just kind
of thinking about some things and thinking about the timeline
of hiring, shotting and all that stuff, and how Bill
Belichick was here. How many times Jerry Jones would have
said something offensive about Bill Belichick's girlfriend, Like he couldn't
have helped himself. It would have happened, I mean a
(01:08):
few times. But then I was like what if, because Yesterday,
the Tennessee Titans fired their head coach Brian Callahan, who's
the son of former Cowboys offensive coordinator Bill Callahan. So
the Titans are out of a coach, okay, And I thought,
what if Bill Belichick just kind of pulled the reverse
Nick Saban, his good buddy, he pulled the reverse Saban
and he quit his college job, went and took the
(01:31):
Titans job. And then because he's just trying to catch
Don Shula, he's like twenty six wins away from passing
Don Shula on the all time list, and I just
thought that would all that happen.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
It's kind of the same colors that he's gotten out to. Yes,
it I just thought, I don't think he wants to quit. Yeah,
but I do think he wanted a pro job. And
the pro owners are like, we're you're good on you, dude.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
But one team who's got it so bad right now
and just had the number one pick of the draft
is the Titans, and I was like, they might be
amenable to Belichick.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
It's something to watch. I think it's kind of funny.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
I think the Cowboys were as interested as anyone, and
I think they met with him and were like, oh
my god, he ain't all there anymore. And I think
it's obvious that he's not there the way that his
young cheerleader girlfriend is manipulating him.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
It's almost like weekend at Bernie's Bad.
Speaker 5 (02:20):
Yeah, I think I think there's no one in the
world of football that will take on Belichick.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
Now.
Speaker 5 (02:25):
I think I think he's burned it down because you
guys remember why one remember? But I know, but it
took Okay, well, first of all, the guys you're talking
about just had a really bad experience with this protege
and ran him off, right like they did the whole
Verabel thing and it didn't work out.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Yeah, it got bad once they traded all the players
and didn't have a quarterbacks because he got them into
the playoffs at for many times they would kill for
Vrabel right now. Okay, well, but they got rid of
him because they traded all their players. Okay, they have,
they fired the GM multiple times. It's a bad deal.
It's a bad deal.
Speaker 5 (02:55):
But what I'm saying is is remember that article that
came out last year before he took the Carolina job,
where it came out after he took the Carolina job,
saying why he took it. Basically everybody in the NFL
was like, we're good, yeah, oh yeah, and so that
was reported. So what would have changed in the last
nine months now that this has happened to make someone go, oh,
I need to reconsider the guy that we thought was done.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Desperation from a franchise in turmoil. Maybe I have good
news and bad news for the Cowboys. Here's the good news, right.
The good news is Ceedee Lamb, Cavante Turpin, and Tyler
Booker all practicing today, so probably gonna play on Sunday.
The bad news none of those guys play defense. What
defensive players are we missing right now? Besides overshown. I
(03:38):
think Jordan Lewis would be good to be here.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
It's not on the team. I saw some numbers about
Jordan Lewis the season. Is that where you're going around?
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Yeah, the Cowboys Twitter world is getting this Jordan Lewis
stat that's just regarded, say, he hasn't missed a snap
for Jacksonville. He's a second in the league in corners
in some type of metric.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
Badass and he's like he got.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Responding to some the Cowboys people like with the prayer emoji.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
He wanted to be here and they didn't keep him here,
and he was an important guy in the locker room
as well, and they missed on that, Like you can't
I get it.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
You can't keep every player.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
And when I'm critical of the Cowboys front office, people
are like, are you Are you.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
Saying that they've never made any pick right now, I'm
not saying that.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Like some things they get right, but seems like more
than often these days they get it wrong.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
And that was wrong. They should not have let Jordan
Lewis leave.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Fandom's weird because people do like, well I sounded kind
of weird. They're kind of went like a faked Ted Cruz,
A nice boy you have here, but they forget that
Nico like made good trades for PJ. Washington and uh
Daniel Gafford. Like I don't think everyone was loving the
(04:48):
Grant Williams experience here, like he turned itj forget because
it was a really bad thing that happened to But
I get so. Jerry had multiple times to talk. He
had his radio show with John and O J. I'm
sorry Sean and r J. And then he did a
East West Shrine game thing. So Jerry's talking right, he's
(05:11):
out everywhere, and he says this about Ibraflus quote, he's
had his tail kicked. That's who I want in the
fox hole with me. Okay, it's not the war, because
there's no such thing as having all the answers. So
when I jumped at it and saw when we had
a chance to get him in the off season, I
still feel as strongly as I did the day we
(05:31):
brought him in here and there's your Matti Reflus story
of the day Jerry got his back in front of everybody.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
Yeah, but that doesn't mean anything. Well here is.
Speaker 5 (05:40):
I know what you're saying, but anything that man says means.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
No, no, no, no no. I agree. The thing about Iberflus, though,
and this is why I'm not completely giving up, is
the last time the Cowboys, like a lot of fans, well,
if they would have just let Shoddy hire his own
defensive coordinator. Okay, well we just did that with Mike
McCarthy in twenty twenty, and you guys wanted Mike Nolan
out of town. So it's impossible to make a Cowboys
(06:03):
fan happy right now. I understand that we did this
this way, the same way that got us dan Quinn.
So we just need to think about it that way
sometimes too, and not just assume that Shoddy would have
got a defense, a defensive coordinator that would have fixed things. Ultimately,
the defense is not the worst in the league. If
you don't trade Micah, they're still okay. They're getting stops
(06:26):
and Dak's playing like a MVP and they're winning games.
That's that's the bigger issue than I think, just what's
going on. And Ibraflus is gonna have to wear this
for a while and it's probably gonna get worse and
he's probably gonna get fired after one year. But it's
just something to think about, Like the coach got to
hire a defensive coordinator in twenty twenty and it was
on the same level as this.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
Yeah, all right, where you gonna take us next? In
the weekly week day update.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Oh dear God, we have tortilla Gate in Lubbock.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
Next. Boom,
Ay, Yes, it is the world famous Ben and Skin Show,
and we're gonna be on the road Tomorrow. We're gonna
be at the Trophy Club location of the original Roy
Hutchins Barbecue Trophy Club, So come see us Trophy Club Tomorrow. Friday,
we're gonna be at the Pluckers City View, so we're
gonna be out in the eight one seven. So if
you want to see our show live from three to six,
you can do that tomorrow and on Friday as well.
(00:21):
The weekly weekday updates coming up. We got an audio
bubble bath September news bloopers. But right now it's time
for this Cowboy.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Surprise.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
I thought of an idea.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
This is actually the first part is not Cowboys related,
but it will be in the second. I had a
wild idea about Bill Belichick yesterday. I was just kind
of thinking about some things and thinking about the timeline
of hiring, shotting and all that stuff, and how Bill
Belichick was here. How many times Jerry Jones would have
said something offensive about Bill Belichick's girlfriend, Like he couldn't
have helped himself. It would have happened, I mean a
(01:08):
few times. But then I was like what if, because Yesterday,
the Tennessee Titans fired their head coach Brian Callahan, who's
the son of former Cowboys offensive coordinator Bill Callahan. So
the Titans are out of a coach, okay, And I thought,
what if Bill Belichick just kind of pulled the reverse
Nick Saban, his good buddy, he pulled the reverse Saban
and he quit his college job, went and took the
(01:31):
Titans job. And then because he's just trying to catch
Don Shula, he's like twenty six wins away from passing
Don Shula on the all time list, and I just
thought that would all that happen.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
It's kind of the same colors that he's gotten out to. Yes,
it I just thought, I don't think he wants to quit. Yeah,
but I do think he wanted a pro job. And
the pro owners are like, we're you're good on you, dude.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
But one team who's got it so bad right now
and just had the number one pick of the draft
is the Titans, and I was like, they might be
amenable to Belichick.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
It's something to watch. I think it's kind of funny.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
I think the Cowboys were as interested as anyone, and
I think they met with him and were like, oh
my god, he ain't all there anymore. And I think
it's obvious that he's not there the way that his
young cheerleader girlfriend is manipulating him.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
It's almost like weekend at Bernie's Bad.
Speaker 5 (02:20):
Yeah, I think I think there's no one in the
world of football that will take on Belichick.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
Now.
Speaker 5 (02:25):
I think I think he's burned it down because you
guys remember why one remember? But I know, but it
took Okay, well, first of all, the guys you're talking
about just had a really bad experience with this protege
and ran him off, right like they did the whole
Verabel thing and it didn't work out.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Yeah, it got bad once they traded all the players
and didn't have a quarterbacks because he got them into
the playoffs at for many times they would kill for
Vrabel right now. Okay, well, but they got rid of
him because they traded all their players. Okay, they have,
they fired the GM multiple times. It's a bad deal.
It's a bad deal.
Speaker 5 (02:55):
But what I'm saying is is remember that article that
came out last year before he took the Carolina job,
where it came out after he took the Carolina job,
saying why he took it. Basically everybody in the NFL
was like, we're good, yeah, oh yeah, and so that
was reported. So what would have changed in the last
nine months now that this has happened to make someone go, oh,
I need to reconsider the guy that we thought was done.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Desperation from a franchise in turmoil. Maybe I have good
news and bad news for the Cowboys. Here's the good news, right.
The good news is Ceedee Lamb, Cavante Turpin, and Tyler
Booker all practicing today, so probably gonna play on Sunday.
The bad news none of those guys play defense. What
defensive players are we missing right now? Besides overshown. I
(03:38):
think Jordan Lewis would be good to be here.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
It's not on the team. I saw some numbers about
Jordan Lewis the season. Is that where you're going around?
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Yeah, the Cowboys Twitter world is getting this Jordan Lewis
stat that's just regarded, say, he hasn't missed a snap
for Jacksonville. He's a second in the league in corners
in some type of metric.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
Badass and he's like he got.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Responding to some the Cowboys people like with the prayer emoji.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
He wanted to be here and they didn't keep him here,
and he was an important guy in the locker room
as well, and they missed on that, Like you can't
I get it.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
You can't keep every player.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
And when I'm critical of the Cowboys front office, people
are like, are you Are you.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
Saying that they've never made any pick right now, I'm
not saying that.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Like some things they get right, but seems like more
than often these days they get it wrong.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
And that was wrong. They should not have let Jordan
Lewis leave.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Fandom's weird because people do like, well I sounded kind
of weird. They're kind of went like a faked Ted Cruz,
A nice boy you have here, but they forget that
Nico like made good trades for PJ. Washington and uh
Daniel Gafford. Like I don't think everyone was loving the
(04:48):
Grant Williams experience here, like he turned itj forget because
it was a really bad thing that happened to But
I get so. Jerry had multiple times to talk. He
had his radio show with John and O J. I'm
sorry Sean and r J. And then he did a
East West Shrine game thing. So Jerry's talking right, he's
(05:11):
out everywhere, and he says this about Ibraflus quote, he's
had his tail kicked. That's who I want in the
fox hole with me. Okay, it's not the war, because
there's no such thing as having all the answers. So
when I jumped at it and saw when we had
a chance to get him in the off season, I
still feel as strongly as I did the day we
(05:31):
brought him in here and there's your Matti Reflus story
of the day Jerry got his back in front of everybody.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
Yeah, but that doesn't mean anything. Well here is.
Speaker 5 (05:40):
I know what you're saying, but anything that man says means.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
No, no, no, no no. I agree. The thing about Iberflus, though,
and this is why I'm not completely giving up, is
the last time the Cowboys, like a lot of fans, well,
if they would have just let Shoddy hire his own
defensive coordinator. Okay, well we just did that with Mike
McCarthy in twenty twenty, and you guys wanted Mike Nolan
out of town. So it's impossible to make a Cowboys
(06:03):
fan happy right now. I understand that we did this
this way, the same way that got us dan Quinn.
So we just need to think about it that way
sometimes too, and not just assume that Shoddy would have
got a defense, a defensive coordinator that would have fixed things. Ultimately,
the defense is not the worst in the league. If
you don't trade Micah, they're still okay. They're getting stops
(06:26):
and Dak's playing like a MVP and they're winning games.
That's that's the bigger issue than I think, just what's
going on. And Ibraflus is gonna have to wear this
for a while and it's probably gonna get worse and
he's probably gonna get fired after one year. But it's
just something to think about, Like the coach got to
hire a defensive coordinator in twenty twenty and it was
on the same level as this.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
Yeah, all right, where you gonna take us next? In
the weekly week day update.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Oh dear God, we have tortilla Gate in Lubbock.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
Next. Boom,
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