October 13, 2025 • 11 mins
"How do you lose a game when you know you need the ball back—and still let the other team run out the clock?"In this fiery and hilarious episode of The Ben and Skin Show, Ben Rogers, Jeff “Skin” Wade, Kevin “KT” Turner, and Krystina Ray dive headfirst into the Cowboys’ gut-wrenching 30-27 loss to the Panthers. From defensive disasters to coaching malpractice, the crew breaks down the most frustrating moments—including the infamous six-minute meltdown and the baffling decision not to push the Panthers into the end zone. Plus, a big debate about what the Cowboys should do with pending free agent George Pickens.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
A fellous cowboy.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Surprise cow.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
All right, it was not good.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Yesterday thirty twenty seven, the Panthers beat the Cowboys and
the Cowboys have a long way to go, and that
was the last I would say, gimme game on the schedule.
There might be another one. It's just very strange. A
part of what makes yesterday's lost hurt a little bit
to me. There's two things. One is that the Giants
beat the Eagles on Thursday night. Takeaway however, you feel
(00:41):
left the Cowboys for a second and just go, well,
the Giants beat the Eagles, so it's kind.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Of wide open here. Giants streaking, bro their thing is.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Six minutes left in the game, and for you to
not get the ball back is absolute malpractice at all
forms like takeaway, getting stop.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
You have to let them score. They tried, They did
try it.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
I would argue that it didn't look that different from
normal plays, no.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
But you can tell they were letting them try. And
that was even more embarrassing and sad to watch. When
they tapped him on the shoulder pad, I was like,
push him in the end zone. You're not gonna get
the ball back. Push it seriously, they you cannot play.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Defense that way. With six minutes left, we know what's
going to happen here. How Eberflus did not have eleven
guys on a suicide blitz going after the quarterback on
every play. I'll never understand. That is frustrating. And then
if you want to say, well, you're being a little emotion, Kevin,
hold on here, it's fourth and three.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
You're right.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
You have them to a fourth to three and I
had a chance to stop them. Panthers went big nuts,
went for it. Probably their only choice right there. But
Panthers had a lot of confidence they were convert on
fourth and three and they did. And there's a lot
of talk about that specific play. It's a slant right
to hunt a Renfro, a little short white guy. The
plan they said after the game was for Kenneth Murray
(02:01):
to get over, and well you watch it did.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Kenneth Murray was not even closed.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
He's garbage and he's by far Era his favorite guy,
Like he refuses to take him out of the game,
and it's an absolute waste to have him in.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
I saw these stats about the Cowboys defense. They in
total yards allowed, they're worse in the NFL opposing passing
opposing passer rating worst in the NFL. Rushing first downs
allowed worst in the NFL, third down conversion rate worst
in the NFL. Like, this is the worst defense in
(02:36):
the entire NFL, and it's not getting better.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
If anything, it's getting worse.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
I really thought that they had improved and in the
last two weeks whoa Like, I thought, Okay, they're not
a good team at stopping the run, but they're okay.
They're okay, I mean based on what they did in
the second half against Philly the couple weeks.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
But man, the way all ran on all over him.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
If it wasn't for that fumble, who knows, and in
the way that Rico daldle what did he have?
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Thirteen carries of seven yards or more?
Speaker 4 (03:08):
It was an outrageous number, like the most ridiculous number
you've ever heard, So much so that as the game
was going on, I was like, why are they ever
passing the ball? Why wouldn't they hand it to Rico
daldele on every play and just get seven yards on
every play, never risk an incomplete pass or anything, and
just keep like there was no resistance none.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
You needed the Panthers to have penalties or a slant
route to Ted McMillan goes off his head and Donovan
Wilson gets the interception right, which, by the way, that's
the longest a guy's ever stayed on the ground after
an interception.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
He fell down three times. Could you get his legs going?
He couldn't activate his glutes and get moving. It's crazy.
It looked like if you guys ever seen an older
dog in their legs. Just the dog's fine, but it's
just the back legs aren't working anymore, so it's just
dragging its leg around. Yeah, that's what he looked like
after he was received, after you got that gift of
an interception put right into his belly.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
That's a bad deal. Would you guys rather have George
Pickens or Ted McMillan Pickens? No, why do you say that?
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Well, if the Panthers don't take Ted McMillan in the draft,
the Cowboys probably do, right, And you never make you
never trade a third rounder for George Pickens, right, And
I think the George Pickens contract stuff, I think.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Is going to be big.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
It's going to be important, and I don't know think
the Cowboys are going to handle it.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
With class. They don't.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
They don't.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
No, they don't handle these things. Well, this is a
combustible situation. I think I would rather have a third
round pick and have Tet just to have all those years.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Out of the marry.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
I think Ted at the end of their career, I
think Tet will have a better career than George Pickens.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
You would know way more about him as a prospect
than I do, obviously, But man, Pickens looks good. The
problem is with Pickens, you have you have to He's
gonna be on his best behavior because it's a contract
here right now. M But dude, he's a little bit
of a loose cannon. We all we all know that
this contract thing could get a I mean, what is
he right now? He's playing like, Hey, I'm the best
(05:02):
receiver in the league, So does he want thirty five
a year?
Speaker 4 (05:06):
Like?
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Is he cool?
Speaker 3 (05:06):
I'm the best number two in the league, Give me
twenty eight a year. I don't know, whatever it is.
Can they afford to have their number two receiver making
thirty million dollars a year? And I saw Broadist talking
about this, and I don't you know, this is a
question they have to ask. If you're not in it
this year, you've got some guys that would be of
interest to other teams. If you're not going to keep pickings,
do you consider trading pickings?
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Another guy's TJ.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
Bass, who may be the best backup offensive guard in
the NFL, who's a luxury to have, but he's gone
after this year. So at some point do you do
you just punt and say, man, let's get as many.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Draft picks as possible.
Speaker 4 (05:41):
I mean, well, let me ask you this, what would
be a draft pick to get, in your opinion, that
is worth trading Bass?
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Like you just saends like anything? Like a no? No?
I think it would have if you got a fourth,
I think I'd take a fourth for him. If it
take a fourth, what about fourth pickings? You go, you
give up a third for Pickens? Yeah? So do you
would you just take a third for him? I would.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
I would take a second for him, and I think
I would probably take a third if you're not going
to keep him. But this comes down to you have
to have a culture and a plan and someone leading,
not just a guy winging it.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Jerry's gonna get into negotiation and see how they go.
And wing it.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
Yeah, I don't see why. I mean, I guess it
depends on injuries and stuff. But when you have a
guy that's a backup, you just sign him in the
off season if you want him, Like you know, the
Cowboys aren't gonna sign him, so I give up an asset.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Let's keep it, keep it going. I've got an idea
that might make sense of the George Pickens thing.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Okay, that's next. Don't go anywhere. It's a couple of
minutes away.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Off now, KT.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
We were just talking and you had a juicy situation
for us on keeping George picken We're not.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
We're talking about you.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
If it goes the season goes awry and it maybe
already has, and you need to trade for some assets.
You know, George Pickens, you could franchise him, which means
he would be here for another year and he probably
wouldn't like that. And how his agent is Michaeh. Parson's agent,
so it's not like the best situation for the Cowboys there.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Should try to deal directly with Pickins on the.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Thing is too teams will have, you know, they'll know
their cap space and how much room they have. In
March to maneuver and all that stuff, so they may
have like the cap space because if you're if you're
trading George Pickens in the offseason, is a signing trade
deal most likely, I mean, and the team that's picking
him up will be signing him the contract. They wouldn't
be signing a trading for him for his franchise tag
(07:26):
year or like, that's not how that would work. So
I do kind of think if you're gonna do this,
you've got till early November, till the trade deadline. We'll say,
ow the next two games play out, right, But like
I do think it's kind of crucial to have these
conversations right now. We do think Ceedee Lamb will be
back next week because I think you can get more
(07:47):
for George Pickens now, for teams that are sitting there
on the brink going man kind of want to go
for it here, I want to go and I think
they get more than in the off season when they
have to sign him to a deal.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
I mean, now would be the time.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
You could see George Pickens comes in here, immediately, gets
integrated and is performing like a true number one. Yes,
So if you're a team that's a receiver away. That
would be appealing. It'd be real appealing. N Bill Bills
could use of George Pickens.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
But it's gonna be And Okay, now that now you're
getting to something that I think is legit. If you're
a team that has a chance to win a Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Then you do it.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
Because I'm assuming Pickens was on the open market last
summer and no one stepped up and gave more than
a third and a fifth. So someone's in the middle
of the season going now I want to I mean,
it's gonna have to be like what you're talking about,
where someone's like, this guy can put us over the
top if we get him right now.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
And the way he's playing now, he's destroying anything he's
ever done prior to this, So any questions about how
good he is, he's answered those questions. So maybe a
team would be and also maybe a team would be
willing to go get him now just to try to
win this year, Like say, Buffalo, we don't want to
deal with him. Is his contract, he's going to be
a problem. But yeah, let's go put in with Josh
(09:00):
Allen right now, let's go win it. All right, what
would that be worth a second third, and dude, look
around the AFC. I know we were talking about look around
the NFC. So I did this a couple of weeks
ago when I was looking at Kansas City's record, going
oh my god, is Kansas City out of it? And
then I looked at the AFC and I said, Nope, no,
they're not. Last night's win was who good?
Speaker 1 (09:22):
It was very good?
Speaker 4 (09:22):
But like it really in the NFL period, who are
these badass teams? They're just smashing everyone. San Francisco lost
their second best defensive player last night. And you think
Tampa's a juggernut?
Speaker 1 (09:35):
No, not at all.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
But is the only quarterback in the league playing better
than Dak Yeah, maybe Josh Allten.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
They're really good. I mean, the Packers should be five
and zero.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
The Eagles are smelly, but they were smelly at this
time last year, so they'll probably end up and their
Detroit looks pretty good.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Still, I still can't believe the Eagles won a Super
Bowl with that team.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Last question I hear have for the Cows, did you
guys rather have Javonte Williams rico?
Speaker 1 (09:59):
D Okay? Well they're they Okay, they're about the same age, right,
good question.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
I think they might be the same twenty seven. I
think they're the same dude, pretty much two very close.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
I think Rico like he left.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
I mean, the Cowbys made their decision, then Rico left,
so they never really liked him.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
But it seems because Zeke played a lot last year,
he wasn't Carolina starter either. It was was really good, right,
he was really good.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
It's just someone explained to me because I don't know
it and can go back and you know, watch it.
Why could we not run the ball yesterday? Was that
because the offensive line has been performing.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
They've been a good.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Defensive linemen and like the Cowboys tried to trade with
the Panthers, but they were not going to give up
There Brown the defensive tackle. So they've got some good
right players up front when we have a backup offensive lineman.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Okay. Also, the week prior was that the Jets.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
Yet I was listening to a podcast talking about this
and they were saying, well, the long run kind of
skewed the numbers. They didn't run that well in that game.
They didn't block very well run blocking in the interior
of the offensive line in that game, even though numbers
were decent.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
I think it was that sixty eight yard run impacted that.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
And so I heard I heard some people predicting the
Cowboys wouldn't be able to run the ball, Like you know,
they're they're shorthanded still and they're playing along the offensive line,
but they're Yeah, you would think they would be able
to run better than they did.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
That was far and.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
Away the worst performance of the year for them. All right,
let's keep it cooking here on the Ben and Skin Show.
Coming up next, one of Ben's all time heroes is
catching strays. We'll see how the Kevin Costner story affects
Ben next right here on The Eagle
A fellous cowboy.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Surprise cow.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
All right, it was not good.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Yesterday thirty twenty seven, the Panthers beat the Cowboys and
the Cowboys have a long way to go, and that
was the last I would say, gimme game on the schedule.
There might be another one. It's just very strange. A
part of what makes yesterday's lost hurt a little bit
to me. There's two things. One is that the Giants
beat the Eagles on Thursday night. Takeaway however, you feel
(00:41):
left the Cowboys for a second and just go, well,
the Giants beat the Eagles, so it's kind.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Of wide open here. Giants streaking, bro their thing is.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Six minutes left in the game, and for you to
not get the ball back is absolute malpractice at all
forms like takeaway, getting stop.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
You have to let them score. They tried, They did
try it.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
I would argue that it didn't look that different from
normal plays, no.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
But you can tell they were letting them try. And
that was even more embarrassing and sad to watch. When
they tapped him on the shoulder pad, I was like,
push him in the end zone. You're not gonna get
the ball back. Push it seriously, they you cannot play.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Defense that way. With six minutes left, we know what's
going to happen here. How Eberflus did not have eleven
guys on a suicide blitz going after the quarterback on
every play. I'll never understand. That is frustrating. And then
if you want to say, well, you're being a little emotion, Kevin,
hold on here, it's fourth and three.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
You're right.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
You have them to a fourth to three and I
had a chance to stop them. Panthers went big nuts,
went for it. Probably their only choice right there. But
Panthers had a lot of confidence they were convert on
fourth and three and they did. And there's a lot
of talk about that specific play. It's a slant right
to hunt a Renfro, a little short white guy. The
plan they said after the game was for Kenneth Murray
(02:01):
to get over, and well you watch it did.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Kenneth Murray was not even closed.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
He's garbage and he's by far Era his favorite guy,
Like he refuses to take him out of the game,
and it's an absolute waste to have him in.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
I saw these stats about the Cowboys defense. They in
total yards allowed, they're worse in the NFL opposing passing
opposing passer rating worst in the NFL. Rushing first downs
allowed worst in the NFL, third down conversion rate worst
in the NFL. Like, this is the worst defense in
(02:36):
the entire NFL, and it's not getting better.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
If anything, it's getting worse.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
I really thought that they had improved and in the
last two weeks whoa Like, I thought, Okay, they're not
a good team at stopping the run, but they're okay.
They're okay, I mean based on what they did in
the second half against Philly the couple weeks.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
But man, the way all ran on all over him.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
If it wasn't for that fumble, who knows, and in
the way that Rico daldle what did he have?
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Thirteen carries of seven yards or more?
Speaker 4 (03:08):
It was an outrageous number, like the most ridiculous number
you've ever heard, So much so that as the game
was going on, I was like, why are they ever
passing the ball? Why wouldn't they hand it to Rico
daldele on every play and just get seven yards on
every play, never risk an incomplete pass or anything, and
just keep like there was no resistance none.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
You needed the Panthers to have penalties or a slant
route to Ted McMillan goes off his head and Donovan
Wilson gets the interception right, which, by the way, that's
the longest a guy's ever stayed on the ground after
an interception.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
He fell down three times. Could you get his legs going?
He couldn't activate his glutes and get moving. It's crazy.
It looked like if you guys ever seen an older
dog in their legs. Just the dog's fine, but it's
just the back legs aren't working anymore, so it's just
dragging its leg around. Yeah, that's what he looked like
after he was received, after you got that gift of
an interception put right into his belly.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
That's a bad deal. Would you guys rather have George
Pickens or Ted McMillan Pickens? No, why do you say that?
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Well, if the Panthers don't take Ted McMillan in the draft,
the Cowboys probably do, right, And you never make you
never trade a third rounder for George Pickens, right, And
I think the George Pickens contract stuff, I think.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Is going to be big.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
It's going to be important, and I don't know think
the Cowboys are going to handle it.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
With class. They don't.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
They don't.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
No, they don't handle these things. Well, this is a
combustible situation. I think I would rather have a third
round pick and have Tet just to have all those years.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Out of the marry.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
I think Ted at the end of their career, I
think Tet will have a better career than George Pickens.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
You would know way more about him as a prospect
than I do, obviously, But man, Pickens looks good. The
problem is with Pickens, you have you have to He's
gonna be on his best behavior because it's a contract
here right now. M But dude, he's a little bit
of a loose cannon. We all we all know that
this contract thing could get a I mean, what is
he right now? He's playing like, Hey, I'm the best
(05:02):
receiver in the league, So does he want thirty five
a year?
Speaker 4 (05:06):
Like?
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Is he cool?
Speaker 3 (05:06):
I'm the best number two in the league, Give me
twenty eight a year. I don't know, whatever it is.
Can they afford to have their number two receiver making
thirty million dollars a year? And I saw Broadist talking
about this, and I don't you know, this is a
question they have to ask. If you're not in it
this year, you've got some guys that would be of
interest to other teams. If you're not going to keep pickings,
do you consider trading pickings?
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Another guy's TJ.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
Bass, who may be the best backup offensive guard in
the NFL, who's a luxury to have, but he's gone
after this year. So at some point do you do
you just punt and say, man, let's get as many.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Draft picks as possible.
Speaker 4 (05:41):
I mean, well, let me ask you this, what would
be a draft pick to get, in your opinion, that
is worth trading Bass?
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Like you just saends like anything? Like a no? No?
I think it would have if you got a fourth,
I think I'd take a fourth for him. If it
take a fourth, what about fourth pickings? You go, you
give up a third for Pickens? Yeah? So do you
would you just take a third for him? I would.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
I would take a second for him, and I think
I would probably take a third if you're not going
to keep him. But this comes down to you have
to have a culture and a plan and someone leading,
not just a guy winging it.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Jerry's gonna get into negotiation and see how they go.
And wing it.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
Yeah, I don't see why. I mean, I guess it
depends on injuries and stuff. But when you have a
guy that's a backup, you just sign him in the
off season if you want him, Like you know, the
Cowboys aren't gonna sign him, so I give up an asset.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Let's keep it, keep it going. I've got an idea
that might make sense of the George Pickens thing.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Okay, that's next. Don't go anywhere. It's a couple of
minutes away.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Off now, KT.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
We were just talking and you had a juicy situation
for us on keeping George picken We're not.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
We're talking about you.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
If it goes the season goes awry and it maybe
already has, and you need to trade for some assets.
You know, George Pickens, you could franchise him, which means
he would be here for another year and he probably
wouldn't like that. And how his agent is Michaeh. Parson's agent,
so it's not like the best situation for the Cowboys there.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Should try to deal directly with Pickins on the.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Thing is too teams will have, you know, they'll know
their cap space and how much room they have. In
March to maneuver and all that stuff, so they may
have like the cap space because if you're if you're
trading George Pickens in the offseason, is a signing trade
deal most likely, I mean, and the team that's picking
him up will be signing him the contract. They wouldn't
be signing a trading for him for his franchise tag
(07:26):
year or like, that's not how that would work. So
I do kind of think if you're gonna do this,
you've got till early November, till the trade deadline. We'll say,
ow the next two games play out, right, But like
I do think it's kind of crucial to have these
conversations right now. We do think Ceedee Lamb will be
back next week because I think you can get more
(07:47):
for George Pickens now, for teams that are sitting there
on the brink going man kind of want to go
for it here, I want to go and I think
they get more than in the off season when they
have to sign him to a deal.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
I mean, now would be the time.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
You could see George Pickens comes in here, immediately, gets
integrated and is performing like a true number one. Yes,
So if you're a team that's a receiver away. That
would be appealing. It'd be real appealing. N Bill Bills
could use of George Pickens.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
But it's gonna be And Okay, now that now you're
getting to something that I think is legit. If you're
a team that has a chance to win a Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Then you do it.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
Because I'm assuming Pickens was on the open market last
summer and no one stepped up and gave more than
a third and a fifth. So someone's in the middle
of the season going now I want to I mean,
it's gonna have to be like what you're talking about,
where someone's like, this guy can put us over the
top if we get him right now.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
And the way he's playing now, he's destroying anything he's
ever done prior to this, So any questions about how
good he is, he's answered those questions. So maybe a
team would be and also maybe a team would be
willing to go get him now just to try to
win this year, Like say, Buffalo, we don't want to
deal with him. Is his contract, he's going to be
a problem. But yeah, let's go put in with Josh
(09:00):
Allen right now, let's go win it. All right, what
would that be worth a second third, and dude, look
around the AFC. I know we were talking about look around
the NFC. So I did this a couple of weeks
ago when I was looking at Kansas City's record, going
oh my god, is Kansas City out of it? And
then I looked at the AFC and I said, Nope, no,
they're not. Last night's win was who good?
Speaker 1 (09:22):
It was very good?
Speaker 4 (09:22):
But like it really in the NFL period, who are
these badass teams? They're just smashing everyone. San Francisco lost
their second best defensive player last night. And you think
Tampa's a juggernut?
Speaker 1 (09:35):
No, not at all.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
But is the only quarterback in the league playing better
than Dak Yeah, maybe Josh Allten.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
They're really good. I mean, the Packers should be five
and zero.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
The Eagles are smelly, but they were smelly at this
time last year, so they'll probably end up and their
Detroit looks pretty good.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Still, I still can't believe the Eagles won a Super
Bowl with that team.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Last question I hear have for the Cows, did you
guys rather have Javonte Williams rico?
Speaker 1 (09:59):
D Okay? Well they're they Okay, they're about the same age, right,
good question.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
I think they might be the same twenty seven. I
think they're the same dude, pretty much two very close.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
I think Rico like he left.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
I mean, the Cowbys made their decision, then Rico left,
so they never really liked him.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
But it seems because Zeke played a lot last year,
he wasn't Carolina starter either. It was was really good, right,
he was really good.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
It's just someone explained to me because I don't know
it and can go back and you know, watch it.
Why could we not run the ball yesterday? Was that
because the offensive line has been performing.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
They've been a good.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Defensive linemen and like the Cowboys tried to trade with
the Panthers, but they were not going to give up
There Brown the defensive tackle. So they've got some good
right players up front when we have a backup offensive lineman.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Okay. Also, the week prior was that the Jets.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
Yet I was listening to a podcast talking about this
and they were saying, well, the long run kind of
skewed the numbers. They didn't run that well in that game.
They didn't block very well run blocking in the interior
of the offensive line in that game, even though numbers
were decent.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
I think it was that sixty eight yard run impacted that.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
And so I heard I heard some people predicting the
Cowboys wouldn't be able to run the ball, Like you know,
they're they're shorthanded still and they're playing along the offensive line,
but they're Yeah, you would think they would be able
to run better than they did.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
That was far and.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
Away the worst performance of the year for them. All right,
let's keep it cooking here on the Ben and Skin Show.
Coming up next, one of Ben's all time heroes is
catching strays. We'll see how the Kevin Costner story affects
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