May 5, 2025 • 9 mins
"Would you let a snake bite you on purpose?" Dive into this thrilling episode of The Ben and Skin Show, where Ben Rogers, Jeff “Skin” Wade, Kevin “KT” Turner, and Krystina Ray explore the bizarre world of snake venom immunity, the latest sports drama, and more.The hosts discuss the fascinating story of Tim Friede, a man who has been bitten by snakes hundreds of times on purpose to build up immunity. KT shares the science behind this unusual method and its potential to save lives. The team debates the risks and rewards of Friede's approach, blending humor with intriguing insights.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We were just talking about where Jalen Green will end
up if he's not with the Rockets next season, the
young talented star for the Houston Rockets, and I.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Just happen to see this.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Maybe it's because my phone is listening to our conversation,
but it is the Bravada official odds of the best
places or places most likely to end up, and the.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Top one is the Lakers.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Oh somehow, Okay, I think they do that because they
can get action on anything Lakers.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Then that would make sense why the Knicks would also
be in the mix and the Heat would be in
the mix.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
I think the Heat probably makes some sense, although I
could see a guy like Jalen Green making pat Riley
when it smash his head through a wall.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Anyways, I just want to let you know that popped up.
We got the Today game coming up.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
We got a news quickie coming your way, a realtor
with a foot fetish, So.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
That's right up your alley skin should be excited about that.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
But right now it's time for this the wildlife.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
Wild life what an intro Tim Freed is a fellaw
who's been bitten by snakes hundreds of times, but on purpose.
Speaker 5 (01:13):
In fact, I might call it his kink.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
Scientists are studying his blood now though, because they're trying
to see if we have I got an email hold
on us.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Who's it from? Let's see Bravada inside radio. Oh man,
I don't get enough of those.
Speaker 5 (01:30):
No audio, Christinity, Sorry, that's why I thought you brought that.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
It's a first look at the ratings in Tulsa, Honolulu,
in Knoxville, if you guys like to know.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Man, I think the Adamsons are going to move to
Maverick stole three of those cities.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
They're smaller than Dallas.
Speaker 5 (01:44):
Okay, So.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
Basically he has This guy's had a long for all times,
had a fascination with reptiles and other venomous creatures. In fact,
the article I read said that he used to milk
scorpions and spiders.
Speaker 5 (02:01):
For their venoms.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Scorpions have boobs.
Speaker 5 (02:04):
Uh yeah, and it's got venom.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
They have very poison movies. Poisonous boobies. The most dangerous guy.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Sometimes, Man, you'll be milk and a scorpions boob and
it'll sting you.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
That's why they're their Their jugs are so top heavy.
That's why their tail goes up and around to kind
of balance out their spine.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
You notice that, I didn't notice that interesting.
Speaker 5 (02:24):
You've never noticed that about a scorpion.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Do the boobs go inside their crusty exoskeleton?
Speaker 4 (02:30):
No, I don't say crusty, and don't say exoskeleton. So
he's been doing this for a long time as a hobby.
He keeps dozens of snakes at his home. He's so,
he said, he's into this venom stuff. It's very strange.
So he said. He started doing this to protect himself
from snake bites. But he does fancied himself as a
(02:51):
very curious mind. So he began injecting himself with small
doses of snake venom, and then he would slowly increase
the him out as the years ago by, to try
to build up tolerance and then continue to let these dangerous,
venomous snakes bite him. Here's the artic I read this paragrapher,
You guys will No doctor would ever suggest this is
(03:13):
a good idea, experts Bake experts say his method tracks
how the body works, and when the immune system is
exposed to the toxins and snake venom, it develops antibodies
that can neutralize the poison.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
So this guy's kind.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
Of a genius, but he's like an idiot genius.
Speaker 6 (03:30):
He's an idiot because it's twenty twenty five, not the
eighteen hundreds, like you can stay away from venomous sneaks.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Okay, but this reminds me of what my oldest son did.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
He was allergic to peanuts, and so he started desensitization
training where he would just have little, tiny microdoses of
peanut powder, and you have a little more each week,
and a little more each week, a little more each week,
and finally got to the point where it's not going
to kill him if he accidentally eats a peanut.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
Dude, Mike Turko has a nut allergy. He had to
leave the set of the Kentucky Derby the other day.
He he was not at the like the last couple
hours of the coverage there.
Speaker 5 (04:08):
He had a nut allergy. So he should be doing
spons Uh No, I don't think so. I don't know
what happened.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
Who stuffed a nut into his cake? You know, he
had a litle quick sandwich or something, you know, during
the break somebody, yeah, I'm gonna put a little nut
in there, and then they have to get him that
he had to go home where he's nut out allergy flared.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Up because that's where his uh, his medicine was was
at home.
Speaker 5 (04:33):
I guess.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
So this guy has withstood snake bites and injections for
nearly two decades. He's got a refrigerator full of venom.
He started a YouTube channel that's gotten a little bit famous,
and he just got hired by a company called Centivax.
He said, quote, I wanted to push the limits as
close to death as possible, to where I'm basically just
teetering right.
Speaker 5 (04:53):
There, and then back off of it a little bit
o cage.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
You know who had that exact quote, Michael Hutchins of Okay, Yeah, suffocate.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Right to the point where he almost die.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
This is his kink, right, this is his thing. And
that's what it does say that in the article, But
that's what he was probably doing.
Speaker 5 (05:10):
He me.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
He emailed all these scientists and then they're like, yeah,
actually this is a wonderful idea and they are now
looking into this. They have not that it works against
some cobras, but what they're trying to find is basically
something that works at rattlesnakes would would kill him. His
his technique here to to stave off, you know, death.
(05:31):
A rattlesnake would kill him, he type, A viper oriented
snake would kill him.
Speaker 5 (05:35):
But cobras, he's good.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
He's good. I don't understand what he does.
Speaker 5 (05:40):
The snake bites it.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Uh huh, all right, here's snake.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
So he over the years has collected all this snake
venom and he takes an anti venom that he's made
and it combinds.
Speaker 5 (05:49):
I don't know, it's very, very hard to explain. But
he's trying to develop.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
He's trying to develop the antibodies to fight off, like.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
To save humanity from snake. No hold on subject basically,
well hold on.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
So once he builds up an immunity, how does that
help the next person?
Speaker 6 (06:12):
They can they can get that from his bloodstream, right
and just shoot it.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
It's the same thing as the last of us, exactly
exact same thing. Yes, it's like, okay, she's immune to
those zombies. And so they're trying to get her to
some scientists to where they take all the antibodies out
of her and give her she'd spread it.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
This is the problem. We don't watch the same TV shows.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
It's the problem with you. We're all on the last
of us. Kick I'm still going you're not there. So
the World Health Organization said that blank many people die
from a snake bite each year.
Speaker 5 (06:48):
Pressure's red style each.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
Year going over in the entire world. I don't even
die in the world with a snake bite every year.
Christina five, If it's probably this is right style. Okay,
I can't just let Ben have seven. I'm gonna take
one hundred and twenty three.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
I'll take six.
Speaker 5 (07:12):
Damn it, one hundred and ten thousand. Oh my god,
what you guys are so bad at that game.
Speaker 6 (07:18):
Really, this guy is a genius. Then I take it back.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
This guy is smart. He could save one hundred and
ten thousand lives. How by his antibodies?
Speaker 5 (07:27):
Was that a question after all this conversation?
Speaker 3 (07:29):
So what happens though, So they take his antibodies and
they mass produce him.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
They turn it into like a mayonnaise, and then into.
Speaker 5 (07:38):
A vaccine maybe, right, yeah, vacs probably, And.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
So then the world takes snake vacs and then they
can get bit by any snakes.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
It's not a viper. It's gonna be hard to convince
people to take the snakebacks. I think.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
I think unless you live in India, no worse.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
I want to tell you this.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
My brother when he went to China and he lived
in China, one of the first things he saw was
a cobra, a king cobra, just on the doorstep of
where he was living, and somebody was brushing it away
with a broom, going get.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Out of here, Like it was just like a city rat.
Where is where are the most snake bites?
Speaker 1 (08:11):
I would say, I would say India one, China two,
mesquite three?
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Why would I said India? Did you say no and
yell at me?
Speaker 4 (08:21):
Oh oh, because you were gonna say, like this is
only important in India, is what I thought you were saying.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Oh no, I'm saying that it's probably more prominent there,
But I don't know that. Like to Ben's point, there's
people right now like I don't even care if I
get measles. How are we going to get him to
like take a snake quacination.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
Now, here's the thing, and I don't know if it
was here or if it was on On the freak
back in the day, we had a guy on who
was by a copperhead and he walked through his experience
of getting the venom and how much it cost him.
Speaker 5 (08:50):
It was enough to put him in medical debt for
the rest of his life.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
How's he doing that?
Speaker 4 (08:54):
Because it's like, you can't pay for it's one hundred
and fifty thousand dollars to get venom.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Do you know what this really just feels like?
Speaker 3 (08:59):
It just feels like that guy mosquito Steve that has
the local company where he let all those mosquitos bite
him over and over and over again, and then he
just tried different sprays to see what he could market and.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Sell real quick.
Speaker 5 (09:12):
Ben was right.
Speaker 6 (09:13):
India accounts for nearly fifty thousand snake bite deaths annually.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Wow, then why did I get yelled at?
Speaker 4 (09:19):
Well?
Speaker 5 (09:19):
I thought you were gonna say something else. Yeah, I
just ahead of it.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
I supported you getting down ahead of it all right?
Coming up next, it's the Today Game, followed by a
Speaker 1 (09:26):
News quickie a realtor with a foot fetish all that's
coming yourway next on the Eagle
We were just talking about where Jalen Green will end
up if he's not with the Rockets next season, the
young talented star for the Houston Rockets, and I.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Just happen to see this.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Maybe it's because my phone is listening to our conversation,
but it is the Bravada official odds of the best
places or places most likely to end up, and the.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Top one is the Lakers.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Oh somehow, Okay, I think they do that because they
can get action on anything Lakers.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Then that would make sense why the Knicks would also
be in the mix and the Heat would be in
the mix.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
I think the Heat probably makes some sense, although I
could see a guy like Jalen Green making pat Riley
when it smash his head through a wall.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Anyways, I just want to let you know that popped up.
We got the Today game coming up.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
We got a news quickie coming your way, a realtor
with a foot fetish, So.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
That's right up your alley skin should be excited about that.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
But right now it's time for this the wildlife.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
Wild life what an intro Tim Freed is a fellaw
who's been bitten by snakes hundreds of times, but on purpose.
Speaker 5 (01:13):
In fact, I might call it his kink.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
Scientists are studying his blood now though, because they're trying
to see if we have I got an email hold
on us.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Who's it from? Let's see Bravada inside radio. Oh man,
I don't get enough of those.
Speaker 5 (01:30):
No audio, Christinity, Sorry, that's why I thought you brought that.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
It's a first look at the ratings in Tulsa, Honolulu,
in Knoxville, if you guys like to know.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Man, I think the Adamsons are going to move to
Maverick stole three of those cities.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
They're smaller than Dallas.
Speaker 5 (01:44):
Okay, So.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
Basically he has This guy's had a long for all times,
had a fascination with reptiles and other venomous creatures. In fact,
the article I read said that he used to milk
scorpions and spiders.
Speaker 5 (02:01):
For their venoms.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Scorpions have boobs.
Speaker 5 (02:04):
Uh yeah, and it's got venom.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
They have very poison movies. Poisonous boobies. The most dangerous guy.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Sometimes, Man, you'll be milk and a scorpions boob and
it'll sting you.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
That's why they're their Their jugs are so top heavy.
That's why their tail goes up and around to kind
of balance out their spine.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
You notice that, I didn't notice that interesting.
Speaker 5 (02:24):
You've never noticed that about a scorpion.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Do the boobs go inside their crusty exoskeleton?
Speaker 4 (02:30):
No, I don't say crusty, and don't say exoskeleton. So
he's been doing this for a long time as a hobby.
He keeps dozens of snakes at his home. He's so,
he said, he's into this venom stuff. It's very strange.
So he said. He started doing this to protect himself
from snake bites. But he does fancied himself as a
(02:51):
very curious mind. So he began injecting himself with small
doses of snake venom, and then he would slowly increase
the him out as the years ago by, to try
to build up tolerance and then continue to let these dangerous,
venomous snakes bite him. Here's the artic I read this paragrapher,
You guys will No doctor would ever suggest this is
(03:13):
a good idea, experts Bake experts say his method tracks
how the body works, and when the immune system is
exposed to the toxins and snake venom, it develops antibodies
that can neutralize the poison.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
So this guy's kind.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
Of a genius, but he's like an idiot genius.
Speaker 6 (03:30):
He's an idiot because it's twenty twenty five, not the
eighteen hundreds, like you can stay away from venomous sneaks.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Okay, but this reminds me of what my oldest son did.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
He was allergic to peanuts, and so he started desensitization
training where he would just have little, tiny microdoses of
peanut powder, and you have a little more each week,
and a little more each week, a little more each week,
and finally got to the point where it's not going
to kill him if he accidentally eats a peanut.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
Dude, Mike Turko has a nut allergy. He had to
leave the set of the Kentucky Derby the other day.
He he was not at the like the last couple
hours of the coverage there.
Speaker 5 (04:08):
He had a nut allergy. So he should be doing
spons Uh No, I don't think so. I don't know
what happened.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
Who stuffed a nut into his cake? You know, he
had a litle quick sandwich or something, you know, during
the break somebody, yeah, I'm gonna put a little nut
in there, and then they have to get him that
he had to go home where he's nut out allergy flared.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Up because that's where his uh, his medicine was was
at home.
Speaker 5 (04:33):
I guess.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
So this guy has withstood snake bites and injections for
nearly two decades. He's got a refrigerator full of venom.
He started a YouTube channel that's gotten a little bit famous,
and he just got hired by a company called Centivax.
He said, quote, I wanted to push the limits as
close to death as possible, to where I'm basically just
teetering right.
Speaker 5 (04:53):
There, and then back off of it a little bit
o cage.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
You know who had that exact quote, Michael Hutchins of Okay, Yeah, suffocate.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Right to the point where he almost die.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
This is his kink, right, this is his thing. And
that's what it does say that in the article, But
that's what he was probably doing.
Speaker 5 (05:10):
He me.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
He emailed all these scientists and then they're like, yeah,
actually this is a wonderful idea and they are now
looking into this. They have not that it works against
some cobras, but what they're trying to find is basically
something that works at rattlesnakes would would kill him. His
his technique here to to stave off, you know, death.
(05:31):
A rattlesnake would kill him, he type, A viper oriented
snake would kill him.
Speaker 5 (05:35):
But cobras, he's good.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
He's good. I don't understand what he does.
Speaker 5 (05:40):
The snake bites it.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Uh huh, all right, here's snake.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
So he over the years has collected all this snake
venom and he takes an anti venom that he's made
and it combinds.
Speaker 5 (05:49):
I don't know, it's very, very hard to explain. But
he's trying to develop.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
He's trying to develop the antibodies to fight off, like.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
To save humanity from snake. No hold on subject basically,
well hold on.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
So once he builds up an immunity, how does that
help the next person?
Speaker 6 (06:12):
They can they can get that from his bloodstream, right
and just shoot it.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
It's the same thing as the last of us, exactly
exact same thing. Yes, it's like, okay, she's immune to
those zombies. And so they're trying to get her to
some scientists to where they take all the antibodies out
of her and give her she'd spread it.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
This is the problem. We don't watch the same TV shows.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
It's the problem with you. We're all on the last
of us. Kick I'm still going you're not there. So
the World Health Organization said that blank many people die
from a snake bite each year.
Speaker 5 (06:48):
Pressure's red style each.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
Year going over in the entire world. I don't even
die in the world with a snake bite every year.
Christina five, If it's probably this is right style. Okay,
I can't just let Ben have seven. I'm gonna take
one hundred and twenty three.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
I'll take six.
Speaker 5 (07:12):
Damn it, one hundred and ten thousand. Oh my god,
what you guys are so bad at that game.
Speaker 6 (07:18):
Really, this guy is a genius. Then I take it back.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
This guy is smart. He could save one hundred and
ten thousand lives. How by his antibodies?
Speaker 5 (07:27):
Was that a question after all this conversation?
Speaker 3 (07:29):
So what happens though, So they take his antibodies and
they mass produce him.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
They turn it into like a mayonnaise, and then into.
Speaker 5 (07:38):
A vaccine maybe, right, yeah, vacs probably, And.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
So then the world takes snake vacs and then they
can get bit by any snakes.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
It's not a viper. It's gonna be hard to convince
people to take the snakebacks. I think.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
I think unless you live in India, no worse.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
I want to tell you this.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
My brother when he went to China and he lived
in China, one of the first things he saw was
a cobra, a king cobra, just on the doorstep of
where he was living, and somebody was brushing it away
with a broom, going get.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Out of here, Like it was just like a city rat.
Where is where are the most snake bites?
Speaker 1 (08:11):
I would say, I would say India one, China two,
mesquite three?
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Why would I said India? Did you say no and
yell at me?
Speaker 4 (08:21):
Oh oh, because you were gonna say, like this is
only important in India, is what I thought you were saying.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Oh no, I'm saying that it's probably more prominent there,
But I don't know that. Like to Ben's point, there's
people right now like I don't even care if I
get measles. How are we going to get him to
like take a snake quacination.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
Now, here's the thing, and I don't know if it
was here or if it was on On the freak
back in the day, we had a guy on who
was by a copperhead and he walked through his experience
of getting the venom and how much it cost him.
Speaker 5 (08:50):
It was enough to put him in medical debt for
the rest of his life.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
How's he doing that?
Speaker 4 (08:54):
Because it's like, you can't pay for it's one hundred
and fifty thousand dollars to get venom.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Do you know what this really just feels like?
Speaker 3 (08:59):
It just feels like that guy mosquito Steve that has
the local company where he let all those mosquitos bite
him over and over and over again, and then he
just tried different sprays to see what he could market and.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Sell real quick.
Speaker 5 (09:12):
Ben was right.
Speaker 6 (09:13):
India accounts for nearly fifty thousand snake bite deaths annually.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Wow, then why did I get yelled at?
Speaker 4 (09:19):
Well?
Speaker 5 (09:19):
I thought you were gonna say something else. Yeah, I
just ahead of it.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
I supported you getting down ahead of it all right?
Coming up next, it's the Today Game, followed by a
Speaker 1 (09:26):
News quickie a realtor with a foot fetish all that's
coming yourway next on the Eagle
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