August 5, 2025 • 6 mins
“Do you like cussing? Cussing the Cowboys?”
That’s how this wild ride kicks off on The Ben and Skin Show, and it only gets more unfiltered from there.In this episode, Ben Rogers, Jeff “Skin” Wade, Kevin “KT” Turner, and Krystina Ray dive deep into the swirling drama surrounding Micah Parsons and the Cowboys’ refusal to budge on a contract extension. With Labor Day circled as the likely deadline, the crew explores hypothetical trade scenarios that range from intriguing to downright absurd.
That’s how this wild ride kicks off on The Ben and Skin Show, and it only gets more unfiltered from there.In this episode, Ben Rogers, Jeff “Skin” Wade, Kevin “KT” Turner, and Krystina Ray dive deep into the swirling drama surrounding Micah Parsons and the Cowboys’ refusal to budge on a contract extension. With Labor Day circled as the likely deadline, the crew explores hypothetical trade scenarios that range from intriguing to downright absurd.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Come on.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Surprise, all right, So, uh, the Michael Parsons stuff is
still going to linger, but no, no deal is gonna
(00:25):
get done. Mike is still going to show up to
practice stand there, so doesn't get fine. Jerry's not going
to do a deal now because that would say show
that he's given in. So again we kind of go
to our pool and circle. Labor Day is probably an
ideal sign to this contract we'll get done. Uh, John
Michoda at the Athletic and and the Ringer I'll put
(00:45):
together like Micah Parsons trade scenarios and I don't think
any of this is likely at all, but I did
want to like scratch the itch of would you do
this trade? And the one that's easy for me to
decipher is when it involves the other team that I like,
the Green Bay Packers, uh, because I've been a lifelong
fan of them and do own the team, so I
(01:05):
could tell you, like how I would feel about this trade.
The Packers trade their twenty twenty six first round pick
in twenty twenty seven first round pick and wide receiver
Romeo Dobbs for Michael Parsons. Tell me about Dobbs A
lot of head injuries, okay, but solid. You know you'd
(01:28):
take him over Jalen Tolbert. You know he's the tier
below George Pickens for sure. But he's like so like, dude,
a great wide receiver three and can be a wide
receiver one when you have four other guys who can
be wide receiver one and a half. You know what
I'm saying. Yeah, Like, they have a bunch of guys
who are like not wide receiver ones, but we can
kind of spread the ball around to all of them.
(01:48):
So what can we get for Jalen Tolbert? The thing
about stuff because he wears the funny helmet, tell me the.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Uh okay, so with your knowledge of Packers football, give
me the number picks that that will be.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Just guess what pick. The Packers are always pretty good.
So in the twenties both years, I'm out, don't need it,
don't want it. Yeah, as a Packers fan, I would
also not do this deal. Oh you wouldn't even give
that up, dude. That guy's better than Jalen Tolbert. We
also don't have a history of signing all of our
best players, okay and just giving everyone top of the
(02:19):
market value like the Cowboys Do the Packers stay in
the middle now of the Packers, Do they have a
lot of stars. No, But it's very much about team building.
And you never hear from the owner of the team
like it's like if there's a way that things are done,
that's completely opposite that it's done here. That's why McCarthy
pooped his pants when he saw how things were around here,
and he pooped his pants when he got the job,
(02:39):
and then he pooped his pants and they were like, hey,
we're gonna place you with Schottenheimer. He pulled his pants
a lot. He had digestive issues. He did not the Bears.
Bears would give you their their first round, picking twenty six. Interested,
their first round, picking twenty seven. Interested, their third round
picking twenty seven. Interest, there's sixth round pick in twenty seven.
Let's go, which doesn't mean anything, but again to first
(03:01):
is what we keep going back to, and a third there.
The Jets would give you running back Bresee Hall. Interested.
Defensive end Jermaine Johnson, he's a pretty good player, twenty
six and twenty twenty seven second rounder. That's it. Wait,
so players the defensive end. Jermaine Johnson, He's solid. I'm
(03:22):
I'd rather have ez Rique and Sam Williams. We don't
need another defensive end. Oh, I guess we got to
replace Homie. We'll have to replace Sam Williams when he
lives and he has to replace Micah. Yeah, but you
can get through. We're gonna get through it. Jets second
round picks are good. Yeah. Any Jet pick is probably
gonna be great.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
I think they're tanking this year. Dude, justin fields at quarterback. Okay,
so they're gonna tank and get Micah. So all of
these come to draft picks pretty much. There's like a
very few of them are gonna mentioned players, although the
Jaguars had one that would give you the first round
pick next year, second round pick this year. And then
(04:00):
running back Travis Etten, who's they're trying to get rid
of because he's not very good. I don't know, man,
I don't I think the Cows should consider this, honestly,
they should consider trying to trademarket I really like, but
just any of those well, just just for the sake
of actually put him on the market and listen to
what you could get. Are the phones ringing and that's
(04:21):
how they would handle it if they were a real organization,
but they are a brand. They're not an organization, and
they don't do things the right way. Sorry, Jerry, Oh
my god, he could do the little John an Usher song.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
But yew, why now, I just would I hear that
audio of him saying, what I picture Clarence Hill to
be over his right shoulder, but he's like looking.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
At what would you take Trey Henderson of the Bengals.
He's a great defensive end. Like he does that he's
holding out, Yeah he doesn't what's the age though, he's
late twenties or thirty. But you would get a first
round pick next year too, a first round pick and
Trey Hendrickson I do that. I don't know. I don't think.
(05:03):
I don't. I'm not interested in another defensive end. Really,
what about to first from Washington for Dorrin's Armstrong, Dorn's Armstrong,
two first rounders next two years.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
If you're gonna, if you're gonna trade him in your division,
they somebody has to overpay wildly. He's gonna murder your
quarterback and then like celebrate that death.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
I don't know. Dak's pretty mobile. I think he could
get away from Mike and no problem. I guarantee you
Micah really wants to go to play with dan Quayle
or to the Eagles. I like Terrence Steele winning that matchup,
and if Mikey gets around him, I like. I like
Dak using his elusiveness to show free. I'm not concerned. Yeah,
it's very uh, very weird. Now the cows don't uh,
(05:44):
these don't really matter too much. But they did put
out their unofficial depth chart, okay, which is unofficial because great,
they're practicing with the Rams today, I think so hopefully
no one kills an anybody, but they're running back. They
do have Juvante Williams number one, even though all the
reports from PRI are that it was Miles Sanders. Then
Miles Sanders got hurt and Jaydon Blue has been running
with the ones. Okay, So which is what you want? Yes,
(06:06):
in the rookie fifth round or running with the ones. Yeah.
The other guy impressing his seventh round running back from Clemson,
Phil Maffa, who is a goal line fat back, and
I love having one of those guys on the team.
I heard Stretch thought it was a bad practice today,
No idea. Everyone was lazy, Yeah, everyone was lazy. Good job, Kevin,
I am dude. Dude, just like think about it, sleep
(06:28):
on it, and then when you get back tomorrow, be like,
are we gonna trade Micah or no. That's my advice
to you, Big Ben.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Thank you Kevin for that advice to me and to
the rest of the world. Coming up next in the
weekly weekday Update. Uh, this is just three minutes away.
Don't miss this. Dallas leads the nation in this dubious distinction.
We'll discuss next
Come on.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Surprise, all right, So, uh, the Michael Parsons stuff is
still going to linger, but no, no deal is gonna
(00:25):
get done. Mike is still going to show up to
practice stand there, so doesn't get fine. Jerry's not going
to do a deal now because that would say show
that he's given in. So again we kind of go
to our pool and circle. Labor Day is probably an
ideal sign to this contract we'll get done. Uh, John
Michoda at the Athletic and and the Ringer I'll put
(00:45):
together like Micah Parsons trade scenarios and I don't think
any of this is likely at all, but I did
want to like scratch the itch of would you do
this trade? And the one that's easy for me to
decipher is when it involves the other team that I like,
the Green Bay Packers, uh, because I've been a lifelong
fan of them and do own the team, so I
(01:05):
could tell you, like how I would feel about this trade.
The Packers trade their twenty twenty six first round pick
in twenty twenty seven first round pick and wide receiver
Romeo Dobbs for Michael Parsons. Tell me about Dobbs A
lot of head injuries, okay, but solid. You know you'd
(01:28):
take him over Jalen Tolbert. You know he's the tier
below George Pickens for sure. But he's like so like, dude,
a great wide receiver three and can be a wide
receiver one when you have four other guys who can
be wide receiver one and a half. You know what
I'm saying. Yeah, Like, they have a bunch of guys
who are like not wide receiver ones, but we can
kind of spread the ball around to all of them.
(01:48):
So what can we get for Jalen Tolbert? The thing
about stuff because he wears the funny helmet, tell me the.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Uh okay, so with your knowledge of Packers football, give
me the number picks that that will be.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Just guess what pick. The Packers are always pretty good.
So in the twenties both years, I'm out, don't need it,
don't want it. Yeah, as a Packers fan, I would
also not do this deal. Oh you wouldn't even give
that up, dude. That guy's better than Jalen Tolbert. We
also don't have a history of signing all of our
best players, okay and just giving everyone top of the
(02:19):
market value like the Cowboys Do the Packers stay in
the middle now of the Packers, Do they have a
lot of stars. No, But it's very much about team building.
And you never hear from the owner of the team
like it's like if there's a way that things are done,
that's completely opposite that it's done here. That's why McCarthy
pooped his pants when he saw how things were around here,
and he pooped his pants when he got the job,
(02:39):
and then he pooped his pants and they were like, hey,
we're gonna place you with Schottenheimer. He pulled his pants
a lot. He had digestive issues. He did not the Bears.
Bears would give you their their first round, picking twenty six. Interested,
their first round, picking twenty seven. Interested, their third round
picking twenty seven. Interest, there's sixth round pick in twenty seven.
Let's go, which doesn't mean anything, but again to first
(03:01):
is what we keep going back to, and a third there.
The Jets would give you running back Bresee Hall. Interested.
Defensive end Jermaine Johnson, he's a pretty good player, twenty
six and twenty twenty seven second rounder. That's it. Wait,
so players the defensive end. Jermaine Johnson, He's solid. I'm
(03:22):
I'd rather have ez Rique and Sam Williams. We don't
need another defensive end. Oh, I guess we got to
replace Homie. We'll have to replace Sam Williams when he
lives and he has to replace Micah. Yeah, but you
can get through. We're gonna get through it. Jets second
round picks are good. Yeah. Any Jet pick is probably
gonna be great.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
I think they're tanking this year. Dude, justin fields at quarterback. Okay,
so they're gonna tank and get Micah. So all of
these come to draft picks pretty much. There's like a
very few of them are gonna mentioned players, although the
Jaguars had one that would give you the first round
pick next year, second round pick this year. And then
(04:00):
running back Travis Etten, who's they're trying to get rid
of because he's not very good. I don't know, man,
I don't I think the Cows should consider this, honestly,
they should consider trying to trademarket I really like, but
just any of those well, just just for the sake
of actually put him on the market and listen to
what you could get. Are the phones ringing and that's
(04:21):
how they would handle it if they were a real organization,
but they are a brand. They're not an organization, and
they don't do things the right way. Sorry, Jerry, Oh
my god, he could do the little John an Usher song.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
But yew, why now, I just would I hear that
audio of him saying, what I picture Clarence Hill to
be over his right shoulder, but he's like looking.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
At what would you take Trey Henderson of the Bengals.
He's a great defensive end. Like he does that he's
holding out, Yeah he doesn't what's the age though, he's
late twenties or thirty. But you would get a first
round pick next year too, a first round pick and
Trey Hendrickson I do that. I don't know. I don't think.
(05:03):
I don't. I'm not interested in another defensive end. Really,
what about to first from Washington for Dorrin's Armstrong, Dorn's Armstrong,
two first rounders next two years.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
If you're gonna, if you're gonna trade him in your division,
they somebody has to overpay wildly. He's gonna murder your
quarterback and then like celebrate that death.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
I don't know. Dak's pretty mobile. I think he could
get away from Mike and no problem. I guarantee you
Micah really wants to go to play with dan Quayle
or to the Eagles. I like Terrence Steele winning that matchup,
and if Mikey gets around him, I like. I like
Dak using his elusiveness to show free. I'm not concerned. Yeah,
it's very uh, very weird. Now the cows don't uh,
(05:44):
these don't really matter too much. But they did put
out their unofficial depth chart, okay, which is unofficial because great,
they're practicing with the Rams today, I think so hopefully
no one kills an anybody, but they're running back. They
do have Juvante Williams number one, even though all the
reports from PRI are that it was Miles Sanders. Then
Miles Sanders got hurt and Jaydon Blue has been running
with the ones. Okay, So which is what you want? Yes,
(06:06):
in the rookie fifth round or running with the ones. Yeah.
The other guy impressing his seventh round running back from Clemson,
Phil Maffa, who is a goal line fat back, and
I love having one of those guys on the team.
I heard Stretch thought it was a bad practice today,
No idea. Everyone was lazy, Yeah, everyone was lazy. Good job, Kevin,
I am dude. Dude, just like think about it, sleep
(06:28):
on it, and then when you get back tomorrow, be like,
are we gonna trade Micah or no. That's my advice
to you, Big Ben.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Thank you Kevin for that advice to me and to
the rest of the world. Coming up next in the
weekly weekday Update. Uh, this is just three minutes away.
Don't miss this. Dallas leads the nation in this dubious distinction.
We'll discuss next
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