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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Five Democratic alternatives if President Biden exits the twenty twenty
four race. It's not just the fact that Democrats are
really concerned now about Biden's age and they're concerned about
his incompetency. They're concerned about the rambling, but now they're
trying to figure out what's next. There was two things

(00:21):
that happen that are very telling. One, there's an actual
article that came out. Now this came out and I'm
going to read part of it to you in a moment,
but it also is coming out at the same time
where many in the media are starting to talk about
what does it look like if we do kick Joe
Biden to the curb. Sonny Houston, who is basically nothing

(00:45):
more than a press secretary for Kamala Harris, she said
this on the View as well.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
Listen, you know what kind of is still strange to me?
Why is Kamala is so dangerous?

Speaker 3 (00:58):
Right?

Speaker 4 (00:58):
That's why do you think nook? That's kind of.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
Offensive to me? And the other thing is she's unprepared coapla.

Speaker 4 (01:08):
Harris, by the way, was.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
The first woman elected DA of San Francisco, the first
woman to be Attorney General of California. She's the first
female vice president. She's been on the job doing a
damn good job, and I am so tired of people
questioning her qualifications.

Speaker 4 (01:24):
The woman is ready.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
To lead if she.

Speaker 4 (01:27):
Needs to lead.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
But I don't think Joe Biden's going anywhere because I'll
see him on his bike in Delaware.

Speaker 4 (01:32):
I can't bite that much.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
And I mean he's fit. And let's compare the Republican
candidate who eats cheeseburgers and throws spaghetti at the wall.

Speaker 3 (01:41):
I mean, is he prepared in dining and for jurisdictions.

Speaker 5 (01:46):
People.

Speaker 1 (01:47):
Now, you couldn't see what I was watching when that
happened on TV, but this was clearly a pre planned segment.
It was obvious that this was pre planned because Sonny
kept looking down at her notes. She had notes that
she clearly had prepared to make the argument for which
you just heard.

Speaker 4 (02:06):
And this was not an organic conversation.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
This was not a you know, it's interesting you brought
X Y and Z up and I really want to
talk about this. To be clear, this was one hundred
percent deliberately done on purpose. This was something they made
a conversation about. I'm sure in the back room before
the show, and they're like, hey, I want to go
into you know, Joe Biden will defend him. But then also,

(02:31):
let's float this idea about Kamala Harrison.

Speaker 4 (02:34):
Let's defend her.

Speaker 1 (02:35):
And she's like, all right, staff, get me some talking
points here. I need some good talking points for her
because she was looking down the entire time that she
was doing the analogies about her career and the accolades.
She didn't know any of that stuff from heart. This
was all scripted TV. And while this is happening, while

(03:00):
they're floating this idea that Okay, maybe we get rid
of Joe Biden. Maybe it's time to say goodbye to
Joe Biden. Maybe this is the end of the road
for him. There was another op ed that also came
out over the weekend, and this is how you know
that the Democratic Party is really starting to float this
real quick to see if they can get their act
together and could they even have a chance to replace

(03:23):
Joe Biden if they need to, And would that be
with Kamala Harris?

Speaker 4 (03:27):
Who else would that be with? Right?

Speaker 6 (03:28):
Like?

Speaker 1 (03:29):
Who else would it be? This is the OpEd that
came out over the weekend. Hunter Biden could hand Donald
Trump the keys to the White House poor America. It
may soon be easier to list the figures in American
public life who are not under indictment than those who are.
Most famously the article rights. Former President Donald Trump is

(03:51):
under for indictments ranging from hush money payments to election interference.
The most recent indictment from the Fulton County relates to
alleged to overturn the twenty twenty election results in the
state of Georgia.

Speaker 4 (04:03):
Trump was charged along with eighteen others.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
Despite all this and more, the former president remains the
front runner to be the Republican nominee for the twenty
twenty twenty four election. That he will have to be
on the campaign trail only when he is not in
the courtroom is a suboptimal situation for his party, to
say the least. So they're even admitting now in these
articles that this is a straight up election interference. They

(04:30):
have charged the president former President Trump with crimes because
they know that that will then mean that he cannot
be on the campaign trail. He'll be stuck in a
courtroom defending himself, making sure he doesn't go to prison
for the rest of his life. Over these bogus charges.
They're saying this to you, they're putting it in writing now.

Speaker 4 (04:50):
Quote.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
But this week we learn that the grand jury in
Georgia also looked into indicting thirty nine other people, including
former senators and two sitting senators, among them Senior Republican
leader Lindsey Graham. The fact that the grand jury even
thought of this as extraordinary given Graham's only crime was
to question the integrity of mail in ballots, something which

(05:13):
many people did in twenty twenty because the unprecedented number
of these ballots during a COVID election. Besides which Democrats
have often complained about election interference whenever it suited them,
Senator Graham ended up being one of the most important
figures in the Republican Party to stand against Donald Trump's
claims of a stolen election, and after all this, a

(05:34):
grand jury wanted to indict him.

Speaker 4 (05:36):
The article reads.

Speaker 1 (05:38):
Whenever anyone notes, as I just have that despite all this,
Trump remains the front runner, they question logically always follows
how the hell it seems inconceivable to many outside of
America that a candidate could not just be running for office,
but leading their party race by the highest possible margins
under such circumstances, has gone wrong with the place. Referring

(06:02):
to America, the author rights the answer is that the
indictments are actually helping Trump. When Democrats see the former
president's mugshot, as they recently got to do, perhaps they
equal some delight in their ultimate fantasy that it might
finally be coming true. Trump behind bars. But the other
half of the country reacts differently. Certainly, there are many

(06:24):
Republican voters who believe that the party needs to move
beyond Trump, But Republican voters in general do not believe
that Trump has been treated fairly and that is correct.
They see Trump as he sees himself, as the victim
of a political witch hunt. As the indictments build up,
the support for Trump among the GOP base has actually

(06:46):
solidified and also gone up. Many Americans on both sides
of the aisle simply no longer believe that Lady Justice
is blind. They believe the legal system, like almost every
other institutionist country, is woefully politicize, and that it has
become a political weapon of choice, a weapon currently being

(07:07):
used to take out the former president and prevent him
from running. In twenty twenty four, of all the things
that presently persuade Republican voters. As this fact, the sorest
point of contention remains a subject of Hunter Biden, the
current president's son. To many Americans, as well as those
outside of America, the case of Hunter Biden is background noise.

(07:28):
This is perhaps because in twenty twenty, when The New
York Post obtained and then published some of the contents
of Hunter Biden's purported laptop, the country's oldest newspaper had
a social media account throttled what many, including one former
acting director of the CIA, will view as a concerted
campaign of disinformation. Was then coordinated by now Secretary of

(07:50):
State Anthony Blincoln and more than fifty former intelligence agents.
Along with Twitter, Facebook, and parts of the media and
others in America eat they contributed to the effective suppression
and discrediting of the Post story. Even today, many intelligence
well informed Democratic voters can remain totally ignorant about the

(08:13):
contents of the laptop. For this reason, some have a
vague idea that there was we're embarrassing photographs on the laptop,
But because there has been such a blackout of the story,
few are as fully versed as Republican voters about why
the laptop is actually so important. The reason is that
its contents allegedly show Hunter Biden engaged in multiple influence

(08:36):
pedaling operations, in other words, profiting from his connections to
receive vast payments from among other countries, including China and Ukraine.
Now I read you this so that you understand something's
happening right now. Democrats are concerned that Joe Biden may

(08:57):
actually lose. Democrats concerned about his cognitive decline. Democrats are
concerned about the embarrassment of him being on stage and
then his own staff shutting his microphone off and playing
him off that stage. They're concerned about his screw ups
even on the anniversary of nine to eleven. And they're
certainly concerned about Kamala Harris being the heir apparent to

(09:19):
the throne. They don't like her either, Just so you know,
So what does this mean. It means they're now talking
and floating and looking at these other ideas of other candidates.
And that's why you're going to start seeing more and
more of these articles. They are going to be written
and people are going to be throwing more names out
there in the coming days. And weeks because Democrats are

(09:41):
now truly afraid they may actually lose to Donald Trump.
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(10:51):
maybe is that the White House protecting him because he's
so awkward now and he can't stay focused, he can't
keep his train of thought. A great example of this
is the White House actually turned off Joe Biden's microphone
after multiple gaffes and then he started rambling during a

(11:12):
press conference over in Asia. Listen carefully to the president.
You'll hear them actually turn his mic off and then
in essence play him off the stage by over riding
his mic by telling the people the press conference is
over while the president is still talking.

Speaker 5 (11:31):
We talked about we talked about at the conference overall,
we talked about stability. We talked about making sure that
the third world, the excuse me, third world, the Southern
hemisphere had access to change. It had access. It wasn't
confrontational at all.

Speaker 7 (11:50):
Thank everybody sends thanks everyone, thank you, thank you.

Speaker 4 (11:57):
And there's your music. People are yelling at him with
every person on that with.

Speaker 1 (12:11):
And then he yells back at him and his mike's
been turned off, and then he slowly walks off the
stage to that elevator music.

Speaker 4 (12:21):
That's your president of the United States. America in Hanois.

Speaker 1 (12:24):
The President of United States of America can't even do
his own press conference without his own team shutting it down. Now,
this is not a moment that that by the way,
the media is acting like it didn't happen. Even CNN
covered it this weekend. They were in shock by this
when they couldn't believe and they referred to it as
quote an awkward moment.

Speaker 8 (12:46):
For President Biden's trip to the G twenty in India
to meet with global leaders and a visit to Vietnam
to discuss a new strategic partnership. Biden spoke at a
press conference in Vietnam on Sunday, and it ended a
little abruptly.

Speaker 5 (12:59):
It wasn't confrontational at all.

Speaker 4 (13:01):
Thank you everybody. This sends account press offense.

Speaker 6 (13:04):
Thanks everyone, a thank you.

Speaker 1 (13:10):
I love how CNN says it ended a little awkwardly.

Speaker 4 (13:14):
It ended a little abruptly in Vietnam.

Speaker 1 (13:16):
Yeah, you think, and look, maybe that's the reason why
the President United States of America, they just pulled the plug
on everything that deals with nine to eleven because why
would you why would you want to have this guy
there if he can't even handle his own press conference.

Speaker 4 (13:32):
In Hanoi.

Speaker 1 (13:33):
It's very clear now that the presence cognitive decline is
going to be a campaign issue. And how do I
know this? I'll tell you that that this is the
other reason on a Navarro in the view, they went
into full White House pit bull attack mode on the
View defending Joe Biden. And this is when you know

(13:57):
things are starting to get bad because even the View
after she said this, went into also starting to protect
Kamwa Harris in case she somehow gets the job. Listen
to on Navarro though, claiming Joe Biden's age is a
non issue, which is clearly not what the polls are
now saying.

Speaker 9 (14:16):
Like it just felt like they had come together on
messaging and we haven't seen that quick yet.

Speaker 3 (14:20):
Well, look, I think this is this is what Republicans
have against Biden because this administration has really gotten a
ton of very difficult bipartisan legislation through in a divided
Congress with a very difficult Senate makeup of fifty to
fifty by part as, an Infrastructure Bill, by partisan Safe
Communities Act, first major gun legislation in decades, US Innovation

(14:43):
and Competition Act, bipartisan Climate, Healthcare and Tax Package, Fiscal
Responsibility Act and.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
The list is long.

Speaker 3 (14:50):
So what do they need to focus on? They need
to focus on the undeniable. Joe Biden is old, and
that's a narrative that's been created to cost panic in people.

Speaker 2 (14:59):
And then so what that's the second part.

Speaker 3 (15:00):
Of that narrative. Joe Biden is old and Kamala Harris
is unprepared. When did it go on with the rest
of that, because you know there's another party. Yeah, okay,
Joe Biden is old, but he ain't dying anytime soon.
I don't know if you guys saw him this weekend.
He was at the g twenty one. Moment I turned
on the TV. He was in India. Then I turned
on the TV. He was in Vietnam. Then I turned

(15:21):
on the TV. He was giving a press conference. And
then at the end of being up for like twenty
four hours working in a completely different part of the world,
he said, you know what, I got to go to bed.
While Republicans were all pounding on the fact that the
man who had been up for thirty eight hours, I
had to go to bed just watching him on TV.

Speaker 1 (15:41):
You know what I mean, this is amazing out of
our I had to go to bed just watching on TV.
By the way, if you look his actual schedule, it
was not that hard of a trip. They had more
than enough time for him to sleep in the schedule.
And they're sitting there they're like, well, you don't understand.
We saw him at different places around the world. I've
slept in between going to different countries. I've done it
quite a few times in my life. That's not an accomplishment.

(16:03):
The fact that they're acting like that is now some
sort of accomplishment tells you everything you need to know
about these idiots. I want to get to this other
story that I also think is very important, and it
connects back to the corruption of the Biden family and
how the democratic machine is fighting back right now.

Speaker 4 (16:21):
You may have also seen this headline.

Speaker 1 (16:24):
We've now learned that Georgia's Special grand Jury recommended charges
against Senator Lindsey Graham, David Purdue, and Kelly Laffler, among a.

Speaker 4 (16:38):
Hell of a lot of others.

Speaker 1 (16:41):
This Georgia's Special grand Jury, which was nothing more than
a political witch hunt, a hit list, an enemies list,
right decided, Yeah, we should start locking up people in
the Senate and Congress and hell anywhere else, they went
after Republican Senator Lindsay Graham, David Perdue, and Kelly Lawler.
And jury panel report released Friday shows that the recommended

(17:05):
charges were in connection with former President Donald Trump's August
the fourteenth indictment by the Fulton County District Attorney Fanny
Willis for allegedly attempting to challenge the twenty twenty presidential
election results. Now, the reason why I think the Fulton
County District Attorney Fanny Willis didn't charge them is because

(17:26):
she understood that would be too much for people to
bite off. But when you hate Donald Trump, you can
get away with it. The Special Jury panel and the
twenty eight page report that was released for revealed that
the panel recommended indictments not only against Graham, Purdue, and Lawware,
along with former Trump National security advisor Michael Flynn and

(17:49):
Boris Epstein, a Trump advisor. The Georgia Special Graham Jury's
fourth person who became notorious for her multiple media appearances,
including an interview on CNN where she laughed about bringing
down the former president. Willison died in nearly twenty people
but excluded Graham, Weftware, Purdue, Flynn, and Epstein. Among those

(18:10):
indicted were former White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows,
Rudy Giuliani, John Eastman, Sidney Powell. Many of them were
charged on state racketeering charges. As you know, Trump faces
thirteen counts and was charged with eighteen other lawyers, aides,
and supporters facing forty one counts collectively. Lindsey Graham United

(18:33):
States Center was asked today about this, like, I'm sure
he didn't know about it until this came out.

Speaker 4 (18:40):
It's like, wait, what I was going to be charged?
Listen to what he said.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
What do you think of the sport.

Speaker 9 (18:45):
Being released today?

Speaker 5 (18:46):
It's contents and what recommendation was from the Special Century you.

Speaker 4 (18:50):
Know I have.

Speaker 6 (18:53):
I'm very worried about the country right now. I was
the chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee. Selection was contested
in courts and multiple states. I had to explain to
the people of South Carolina my vote had to decide
whether or not to have a hearing about the allegations
in Georgia and other places. I called around different states,

(19:17):
including Georgia. As a sitting United States Senator chairman of
the Judiciary Committee, I eventually certified the election in all states,
including Georgia. I didn't find any evidence of mass vote
or fraud, but I did have concerns about the mail
in ballot systems in Georgia and other places. This is

(19:39):
troubling for the country. We can't criminalize senators doing their
job when they have a constitutional requirement to fulfill. It
would be irresponsible for me, in my opinion, as chairman
of the committee, not to try to find out what happened.
It'd be irresponsible for me to tell the voters of

(20:00):
South Carolina what I did without actually trying to find
out what the right answer was.

Speaker 4 (20:06):
So we're opening up Pandora's box here.

Speaker 6 (20:08):
Fulton County is one of the most liberal jurisdictions in
the country. I fear this will spread that the next election,
Democrats may be on the other side of this. So
at the end of the day, nothing happened. What I
did was consistent with my job as being a United
States Senator chairman of the Judiciary Committee.

Speaker 4 (20:29):
But it was just not me.

Speaker 6 (20:31):
Three United States senators, we're opening up Pandora's box. I
think the system in this country is getting off the rails,
and we have to be careful not to use the
legal system.

Speaker 4 (20:44):
It is getting off the rails.

Speaker 1 (20:46):
I think he's absolutely right, But this is not all
the people that were, by the way, on the list
that they were coming after. Let me let you hear
what CNN said about who the grand jury wanted to charge,
because it was more than just senators.

Speaker 7 (21:00):
And inside politics thirty nine names. I'm Dana Bash in Washington.
The Fulton County Special grand Jury report is out and
it begs a lot of questions. The biggest one is this,
why did District Attorney Fannie Willis decide not to prosecute
key political figures despite getting a go ahead from a
special grand jury. The names in this report read like

(21:21):
a who's who of Donald Trump's orbit. Some who were
indicted as part of the criminal conspiracy Rbrudy Giuliani, Mark Meadows,
and John Eastman. Now we are learning some of who
were not Cleton Mitchell, Bert Jones, who's Georgia's lieutenant governor now,
longtime Trump aid and sometimes attorney bors Epstein, former Trump
National security advisor Michael Flynn, and some who serve and

(21:44):
also served in the past in the United States. Senate
Lindsey Graham, David Perdue, and Kelly Leffler. Those last two
of course, of Georgia. CNN's Sarah Murray has been closely
looking over this newly released report. Sarah, what are you
seeing O?

Speaker 9 (22:00):
Basically, the special grand jury felt that very many people
deserve to be indicted after they heard months of evidence
and heard from seventy five witnesses. Again, this is not
the grand jury that issued the indictments in this case.
This was a grand jury whose job was to investigate,
and they ultimately felt that thirty nine people should be indicted. Now,
the district attorney did not just take that list and

(22:21):
take it to a regular grand jury. What prosecutors did
is they went through this name by name and they
tried to determine do the fact support a case against
this person? Do we believe that we could put this
before the regular grand jury get an indictment and that
we have the evidence to be able to take this
person to trial and to succeed. And ultimately you see
a lot of these names fall away. Fulton County District

(22:43):
Attorney Fani Willis ended up indicting nineteen individuals. Eighteen of them,
including of course, former President Donald Trump, were recommended to
be indicted by the Special Purpose grand Jury. There was
another one who does not show up in that report,
Mike Roman, who the district attorney ultimately decided to bring
charges against. But I think what you're seeing is the
difference between you know, what normal folks again, just regular

(23:05):
people who served on a special purpose grand jury found
offensive and thought maybe illegal, versus what prosecutors felt they
could actually prove and bring to trial.

Speaker 1 (23:14):
Danna, this was a list of just we want to
lock up everybody that's a conservative, including the lieutenant governor
of the state, because they were around Donald Trump.

Speaker 4 (23:27):
This was an enemy's list, that's all it was.

Speaker 1 (23:31):
It was an enemies list, and this enemy's list was long,
and it was well thought out. Now I do believe
that the prosecutor even understood I can't go that far,
like I can't start just locking up everybody or trying
to lock up everybody. She did a hell of a

(23:51):
lot of them, by the way. She went after those
very close to Donald Trump at the top. But at
the end of the day, what it was really about,
what it really seemed to be about, was just saying,
all right, everyone that's around Donald Trump, screw them, ruin
their life, right, like I mean, I mean, seriously, just

(24:12):
screw them. Ruin their life and get rid of them,
lock them up, and put them in prison, because they
should have known better. They should have known better than
to hang out with Donald Trump. And now we're going
to punish them for being a conservative, for supporting Trump,
for advocating for Trump, for being a part of Donald

(24:35):
Trump's uh you know, you know, you know world. And
by the way, this is exactly what they're hoping is
going to happen. Exactly what they hope is going to
happen this time with Donald Trump, that good men and
women are going to be too afraid to be around him,
to support him, to advise him, to talk to him,
to work to him. And I can tell you it's real.

(24:56):
I know people that have turned down the opportun to
work with Donald Trump because they're too afraid of the
legal liability and being in the situation that I just described.

Speaker 4 (25:07):
I mean, I mean, think about Lindsey Graham.

Speaker 1 (25:09):
What the hell did Lindsay Graham do nothing except for
being Trump supporter at that moment time, They're like, yeah,
screw him, all right, how many other sinners were around him? Okay,
well they were too, and they had conversations, all right, fine,
screw them too. Right, let's just indict on everybody. And
now what we understand is these grand juries. You go
to the right place and you get the right liberals,

(25:30):
you get the right communists. They'll indicte people and then
they'll go on TV and they'll talk about it. I played,
you may remember, I played this psycho young girl who's like,
I just love the idea of swearing in you President
Donald J. Trump, and she like is fantasizing about it.
She was talking in her interviews, like fantasizing about wanting

(25:52):
to put Trump in jail and to stick him before,
you know, to swear him in.

Speaker 4 (25:58):
That's how psycho. These people are never forget.

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