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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The big news Hunter Biden has been indicted. Don't worry.
The media is already covering for Hunter Biden, telling you
on CNN that the case is actually, in their words,
very weak. Yes, it's a weak case. Take a listen
to what they had to say.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Allegations of politics is right, often coming from the former
president himself in terms of what they say is to
to your justice system. But here you have it, as
we noted, first time in US history the son of
a president has been charged by the Justice Department. Kriscnal,
thanks so much. Going to turn it over to Boris
for some legal analysis.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Yeah, let's chat with seeing and legal analyst Jennifer Rogers.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
Jennifer, obviously, again, this is a historic moment, the first
time DOJ has charged the son of a sitting president.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Your reaction to the news, Well, Morris.
Speaker 5 (00:50):
I really think you know, the first time we had
a charge against a former president, it was important that
prosecutors really took their time and built strong cases based
on compelling evidence.
Speaker 6 (00:59):
And the prosecutors have not done that here.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Oh okay, So so within five seconds you've got a
legal analyst who's telling you that more than one hundred
and fifty suspicious activity reports is not evidence. Having a
father that was having meetings with the son and phone
calls and the big guy and funneling money and LLCs.
It had a no product at all to then funnel
that money. Meeting with the worst people in the world,
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receiving five million dollars, shaking them down, text messages of
shaking them down is not compelling evidence. Jennifer Rodgers is
the official seen in illegal Analysts, and she's just said
that this case is a weak case, that there's just
nothing here, there's nothing there there. Right, Listen, Listen how
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quickly the propaganda comes out immediately when she opens her mouth.
It is telling the world that this is a weak cases,
are weak charges having and by the way, forget all
the other stuff. Let's just talk about this the gun charges. Okay,
we have time stamps from his laptop of pictures of
him doing drugs. We have messages about buying drugs, we
(02:09):
have message about selling drugs on the dates when he
was buying the gun. We can see that he's a
drug addict. And do you have even more evidence, Yes,
he got kicked out of the military for failing a
cocaine test. Never forget that he was in the military.
He got kicked out of the military because he failed
a drug test for cocaine. That's all evidence. But CNN's
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legal team says, no, no, no, there's nothing good here. This
is a weak case.
Speaker 6 (02:34):
Chris.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
I really think, you know, the first time we had
a charge against a former president, it was important that
prosecutors really took their time and built strong cases based
on compelling evidence. And I'm afraid the prosecutors have not
done that here. I certainly, if I were making history,
would not want to make it with this set of
facts and these laws.
Speaker 6 (02:53):
I think that this case is weak. It's very, very
rarely charged.
Speaker 5 (02:57):
This section on being an addict in possession of a weapon,
So I think they have a lot of problems both
on the factual side, which is why it's very rarely.
Speaker 6 (03:07):
Charged, and on the legal side.
Speaker 5 (03:08):
You know, after the Supreme Court's decision in the Bruin
case on the Second Amendment, a lot of legal observers
think that all these gun possession statutes are in jeopardy.
And we know that Hunter Biden's lawyers will fight vigorously
on the legal front, saying that after the Supreme Court's
decision that this conviction could not stand.
Speaker 6 (03:25):
So I think they've got a lot of trouble here
ahead and we'll see how it plays out. But I
think it's inadvisable.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
This is why, well it's interest to see. And as
the Communist News Network they break the news federal gun
charges against Hunter Biden, they immediately tell you that there's
no evidence and this is a weak case. I want
to know what their definition of a strong case would be,
And if they were actually somewhat journalistic, had some journalistic integrity,
they would at least have somebody on to ask that question.
(03:56):
If I was doing that segment with that CNN Legal analysts,
whatever the hell her name is, I want to say, Okay,
tell me what a good case looks like. Tell me
what a strong case looks like. If you're saying this
case is weak, having pictures of him doing drugs, having
text message of him ordering drugs, having people talk about
how he's on drugs, having people around him sending a
message worried about his drug use, having him buy a gun,
(04:19):
having his ex his ex sister in law who's now
turned lover, telling him he doesn't want him to have
a gun, and trying to hide the gun from him
because he's a drug addict and she doesn't want him
to off himself or do or harm himself or do
something terrible with that gun. That's why she threw it
away in the dumpster. Remember, it was not because she
was committing a crime. It was because she didn't think
as a drug addict, he should have the gun. So
(04:42):
the question I would then ask on this gun charge
is what does a strong case look like? Like You've
got the time stamps and when the gun was bought,
you have time stamps. At the same time with the
drug use and the drug abuse, you have him lying
on the form how you have him in his own
(05:03):
book talking about how during this time he was addicted
to drugs in his own book, you have family members
on the record on audio and video talking about his
sons about his drug abuse during this time. So what
would a strong case look like? Would you need to
And I'm wondering, like where do we draw the line
(05:25):
from this being quote as they described a week case
to a strong case. Does it have to be a
Republican to be a strong case? Is that the difference here?
Because if that's the difference, then at least state that like,
look if this is a Republican. We would obviously put
him in jail for the rest of his life because
I'll go back to the first impeachment when she talked
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about them, you know, they talked about, you know, cases
against presidents and the former presidents. She's clearly referring to Trump.
What was the first case against Donald J. Trumps Russian collusion?
It was based on the Stele dossier. It was created
out of thin air and paid for by the Hillary
Clinton for President campaign. The other part of that dossier
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was paid for by the Democratic National Committee, who was
in charge of trying to get their elected to president
United States of America, which at that time was Hillary
Rodham Clinton. When they were impeaching Donald Trump and calling
for investigations at the FBI, that they and then they
started investigating Donald J. Trump. The FBI had already classified
(06:29):
the Steele dossier as ter user generated material user generated propaganda,
meaning that the person who gave them the information they
believed made the information up out of thin air. But
even if that wasn't enough, the FBI offered Christopher Steel
a million dollars to corroborate anything in his dossier. He
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never did it because he couldn't because he made it up.
It's like writing a movie script. He wrote the most
out landis political movie script for a political campaign you
could write, and then they gave it to the media,
and the media ran with the same media that's now
telling you this is a weak case. It's a weak case,
claiming that this has rarely charged this section. And then
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there's another aspect of this. Are liberals actually in favor
of tough gun control laws, which they yell, scream, rant
and rave about every time there's a mass shooting in
this country. They want to take away your right to
own a firearm if you deal with mental health issues,
if you deal with depression. They want to be able
to come in and do a psych evaluation on you
at any point and take away every gun you've got.
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They want to be able to have ex wives or
ex girlfriends, or ex boyfriends or ex husbands, or our
ex employers be able to turn you in if they
believe you're mentally unstable and unfit to have a firearm.
They want to have a society that was like Germany
back in World War Two, where you're spying on your neighbors,
telling on your neighbors. We already know that, by the way,
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because they were doing that in the Catholic church and
trying to recruit parishioners a spy on their Catholic worship
partners in church, other parishioners. We know that this government
also believes that you're a domestic terrorist if you go
to a school board meeting and you're angry over them
in doctoring your kids and transgender and radical ideas like
(08:18):
drag queen shows and discussing vile books on sexual interactions
with extreme issues in it. And if you show up
and there's a dude that assaults your child in the
women's bathroom, because that dude's a dude, not a chick,
and you get angry that school board meeting, the FEDS
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will arrest you. They'll take you out in handcuffs. That
happen in Virginia, and then they'll classify anybody else standing
up for that father whose daughter was sexually assaulted in
the bathroom by a man claiming to be a woman
in high school, that you are now a domestic terrorist.
You should be true the same I guess as a
member of al Qaeda. So if there was an argument
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to be made on CNN that should have been made
by somebody on the other side. It would have been
what does a strong case look like? Is it only
is it number one? Is it only a Republican that
makes a strong case of it's Democrats not? Or did
you have to have a confessional video of Hunter Biden
looking at the camera saying, broadcasting it to the world. Hig,
I'm Hunter Biden. I'm about to take cocaine and then
(09:24):
I'm walking into the store and I'm gonna livestream me
filling out this form and then buying the gun. Oh wait,
we basically have that. We have videos of him doing drugs,
and then we have the date of when he went
and bought the gun. By the way, the Democrats knew
this was a big deal, And how do we know
that after the gun was thrown away in the dumpster
and then the search, the quick fast search to find
(09:47):
that gun was thrown away in a dumpster behind a
school by his lover ex sister in law who threw
that away that gun of Hunter Biden's. The Secret Service also,
if you remember, even though Joe Biden was no longer
the vice president and did not have secrets protection to
(10:08):
Secret Service agents showed up at that gun store asking
to get the forms back, and that gun store owner
was brave and said, you can go to hell. You
have no jurisdiction in here. I do not have to
hand you the paperwork of Hunter Biden. I know what
you're trying to do. You're trying to cover up a
crime and make it all go away before it becomes
an issue. Never forget that part of the story, because
(10:29):
that's part of the most damning part of the cover
up of this story. But hey, if you're watching CNN,
their words this case is weak. I thought Democrats were
tough on guns. I guess it's only if it's a Republican.
I want to also go back to a reminder of
how many lies have been told by the Bidens. I mean,
(10:50):
it's a hell of a lot of them, and how
many lives have been told by the media in the past.
Say me, that's now telling you the gun charges are
weak charges against Hunter Biden. They picked only charges that
would insight late Hunter from any type of investigation that
would connect him to his father. But let me just
remind you of all the corruption the Biden family that
we know of as of now, I've.
Speaker 7 (11:10):
Never discussed with my son's from my brother or anyone
else and make heaven to.
Speaker 8 (11:15):
Do with their business.
Speaker 7 (11:17):
President Biden met with at least fourteen of Hunter's business
associates while he was vice president.
Speaker 9 (11:22):
And Vice president Joe Biden at dinner with his son Hunter,
along with Hunter's business associates from Ukraine, Russia and Kazakhstan,
and the day after the dinner, a Barisma executive said
a note to Hunter quoting dear Hunter, thank you for
inviting me to DC and giving an opportunity to meet
your father and spend some time together.
Speaker 7 (11:42):
Hunter's lucrative business dealings often included giving as much as
fifty percent of his earnings to his dad.
Speaker 10 (11:48):
The text read quote, I hope you all can do
what I did and pay for everything for this entire
family for thirty years. It's really hard, but don't worry
onlike pop, I won't make you give me half your salary.
Speaker 11 (12:00):
His son Hunter joining the then Vice president on the
official visit to Beijing. Unknown to the press, back then,
Hunter Biden was forming a Chinese private equity funds planning
to raise money, including from Chinese investors. Ten days after
the Bidens trip, Chehai authorities issued the fund's business license, and.
Speaker 12 (12:17):
The Hunter introduced me as this is Tony Dad, the
individual I told you about that's helping us with the
business that we're working on in the Chinese.
Speaker 13 (12:26):
The email reads this way quote at the moment, there's
a provisional agreement that the equity will be distributed as
follows ten held by Hunter for the big guy.
Speaker 12 (12:35):
I have a thousand percent set here and know that
the big guy is referencing Joe Biden. I met with
a former vice president in person multiple times.
Speaker 14 (12:44):
A newly revealed text message, Jose Bobolinski was apparently warned
by business partner James Gillier, don't mention Joe being involved.
It's only when you are face to face. I know
you know that, but they are paranoid.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
Chinese executives admitted to reporters that they were actually intro
reduced to the vice presidents by Hunter.
Speaker 9 (13:02):
Biden, Hunter and the then vice president seeing for the
pair of Mexican billionaires.
Speaker 15 (13:06):
At the same time, Hunter had been working on energy
deals in Mexico.
Speaker 10 (13:10):
Joe Biden also had Hunter at his business partner fly
On f was two to Mexico.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
His closest business partner.
Speaker 7 (13:17):
Hunters made at least nineteen visits to the White House
and other official locations, including a sit down with then
Vice President Joe Biden in the West Wing.
Speaker 13 (13:25):
There's photographic evidence of Biden on a golf out and
with both his son Hunter and a man called Devon Archer,
who was another member of the Paris Maboor.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
We also know that Devin Archer in that picture had
a meeting in the White House, one on one meeting
with Joe Biden about a week before they joined the
Maarie Ma.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Board, before they joined the bearis My board. Because member,
it wasn't just the money coming into Joe Biden, the
five million and the five million dollars per son. He
was also his business partner who was on the board
at Barisma, who was then getting his millions and millions
of dollars by sitting on that board. And a week
(14:02):
before they were on that board in Ukraine Embarisma, he
went and met one on one with the Vice President
of United States of America, Joe Biden. So let's just
go back to this news. When it broke, MSNBC came
out and MSNBC was like, we have breaking news here, right,
this's a big deal. Hunter Biden and died in Delaware.
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Then immediately see an end's downplaying it, saying that charges are,
of course very weak, very weak charges. You notice that
everything I just played for you, none of it involves
any of the other corruption on the actual crimes committed
by the Vice president now president of the United States
of America. But MSNBC is trying to play it up
like this is so damning, like this is justice in
(14:45):
a sense for the Biden family.
Speaker 7 (14:48):
Breaking news. Now we have just learned and we just
got the paperwork that Hunter Biden, the President's son, has
been indicted for lying when buying a gun. I want
to bring an NBC's Garrett, Hey, Garrett, what can you tell.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
Us, well, Chris, This indictment just unsealed in Delaware charges
Hunter Biden with three counts, all related to that gun purchase.
It describes two counts of knowingly making a false or
fictitious statement when purchasing a gun, basically accusing him of
lying about being addicted to drugs at the time he
was purchasing this weapon pistol in October of twenty eighteen,
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and the third count is that he did knowingly possess
that same firearm while essentially while being addicted to a
controlled substance. So these are counts that were all thought
to have been dealt with in that plea deal that
fell apart a couple of months ago, kicking things back
to the US Attorney Now Special Council Weiss handling this
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in Delaware, a former US attorney in the district of Delaware. Again,
this indictment on Field dealing only with the gun and
drug charges. I think it's reasonable to presume we have
not heard the last of charges against the President's son,
given the scope of what was originally in front of
the US Attorney and the kind of falling apart back
to the drawing board to bring forward these counts.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Now, I gotta say I totally disagree with MSNBC there.
I think they're full of crap. I think they're trying
to act like this as a full hardcore investigation, which
it clearly isn't. There's also something else very interesting that
just happened, and that is the White House has now
moved the goalpost for the third time on the involvement
(16:26):
of Joe Biden with Hunter Biden and the Biden crime family. Remember,
at first it was Joe Biden has never talked about
business with his family, his son or anyone, his brother,
anybody in the family. He always made sure that that
never happened, right, That was what they said. Then about
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a month ago they changed that narrative to he was
never in business. That was how they described it. He
was never in business with his son. And everybody's like,
whoa that like had a brain like me, and others
that were like, wholl well, hold on a second. You
guys just completely admitted now that they talked to business.
(17:08):
And now you're saying, well, it's it's not about talking business, right,
it's now about being in business. They've now changed it
a third time. And it was a very quick check
the box of mission. Okay from White House's spokesman White
House Counsel's office. Okay, So this is the legal representative
(17:32):
of the presidency, Ian Sam's he's a spokesman the White
House Counsel's office. And this is what he had to
say on CNN as he was talking about this new
indictment of the president's son. And notice and listen carefully.
He's now admitting that not only did Joe Biden help
his son, but he actually attended Hunter Biden's business meetings,
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and the reason why is because quote, he loves him.
So now saying okay, they did talk business, he was
on the phone talking about the weather. That was excuse
a week or two ago, and now it's okay, we're
admitting that Joe Biden did, in fact attend business meetings
with Hunter Biden that made him millions and millions of dollars.
But he only because he loved him. Nothing. The fairy
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is here. Listen carefully.
Speaker 15 (18:18):
Their allegations is the president was present at some of
the meetings between Hunter Biden and his business associates. Why
was the president at those meetings on those phone calls?
Speaker 3 (18:30):
Well, again, I think this is part of the Right
wings misinformation machine to try to confuse people about what
the truth is. The truth is that the President, as
he has said publicly for years, calls his family every
day to check in. He calls his son every day
to check in. He calls his other family members to
check in to see how they're doing.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
He loves them.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
They're a tight knit family. And what the GOP's own
witness testified in this case is that that's exactly what
the President was doing. He was checking in with Hunter
during a particularly hard time. I might add a time
where the family was going through Hunter's brother, BEA's illness,
and of course the president checks in with his son
and talks to them. But again that witness testified no
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business dealings of Hunter Biden's or anyone's was discussed in
these conversations. And so again they're trying to make this
sort of strange connection when their own investigation has disproven
these claims.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Before I let you go back, by the way, that's
just not true. You noticed he didn't answer the question.
The question was why was Joe Biden attending Hunter Biden
business meetings? That was the question. Then he went to, well,
they checked in with each other every day. So your
son's in a business meeting and you drive across town's
the vice president with secret service to go check in
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on him to make sure he's okay during the middle
of a business meeting. Does anyone believe that? Of course not,
and if you do, you're an idiot. So listen to
the follow up question here from Cina, because what CNN
should have done again, if they weren't scumbag journalists, fake journalists,
communist journalists, propagandists for the Biden administration, he would have
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cut him off in the middle. That answered, said Ian,
the spokesperson for the White House Count's office. I didn't
ask you about checking out the SUN. I asked you
about why was he in business meetings? That's the question
I'm asking you. Notice how they didn't they just let
him put out the propaganda and then listen to this.
Speaker 15 (20:20):
Does the president response in terms of how the President
has reacted to this, especially as somebody who's been in
politics and been in Washington for as long as he
has been, the idea that he is now a subject
to an impeachment inquiry as president of the United States,
what's his response to that?
Speaker 3 (20:35):
You know, the President has been in politics for a
long time, and I think, as he would say, he's
seen a lot of malarkey along the way, but this
might take the cake. You know, he's focused on the
issues that actually matter to the American people. You just
saw him spending the last week traveling around the world,
shoring up our alliances, advancing national interests in Asia, our
economic interests in Asia, showing American leadership on the world stage.
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He's coming back here. He's announcing today billion dollar investment
in cancer research try to finally cure cancer. That's what
his administration and this president is focused on every day.
They're focused on the actual needs of the American people.
And I think what he would say is maybe the
House Republicans should join them.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
You know, I laugh at this one. You know you're
in political trouble when you decide randomly on a Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Hey,
let's announce we're going to cure cancer. By the way,
I'm in favor of curing cancer. I'm in favor of
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research and development to get treatments and drugs that protect
people and help people to have cancer. Everybody I know
knows somebody that's been affected by cancer. But to then
use as a political polm like a right, guys, we
need a victory here. We're starting to take on water.
What do we do? All right, let's cure cancer. Great,
great idea. Okay, let's get back some Americans somewhere in
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the world. Who's got some American hostages we can get back.
Oh there's a rant. Okay, great, what does it take
to do that? Give him some really bad guys back
and then give them six billion dollars and then and
then we can claim we got Americans back, we're fighting
for Americans. Okay, great, let's do that. Let's do that.
I mean the idea that the White House has now
changed the goalposts again. Did Joe Biden attended Hunter's business
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meetings where they were making millions and millions and millions
and millions of dollars only because quote, he loves him?
It's this is a love story, right. It's a father
who loves his son, who would just happen to show
up in a meeting where him showing up at that
meeting would make them ten million dollars. But he wasn't
there for the business. He was there to check on
his son, right like they're checking they're checking on his son.
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Special Counsel David Weiss, By the way, you want to
know what he's saying about all this? This is the
same guy that gave the sweetheart deal, who worked in
the same law firm that was representing Hunter Biden, who
then switch sides. Who's then protecting Hunter Biden, who gave
him the immunity sweetheart deal that then got blown up.
Who's now the special counsel? What does he have to say,
Special council?
Speaker 16 (23:07):
Why he's only releasing a paper statement staying mom about
the charges when pressed by NBC News, but a spokesperson
for the Special Counsel's office says, the investigation continues.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
Oh well that's encouraging, right, no comment. So the guy
that gave the deal that was one hell of a deal,
who then only charges him with the crimes to protect
the father, then says no comment, all of a sudden
on all of this, no comment, right, like this is
no comment here. Former White House Press Secretary now Propaganda's
(23:43):
at MSNBC Jinsaki came out saying she's heartbroken for the president,
heartbroken for Joe Biden, who's in the White House is
now worried about his son. Heartbroken. You should feel bad
for this old man in the White House. They're now
going to play the age card, the grandpa card, the
dad card, and that you should that he's heartbroken and
you should give him a hug.
Speaker 17 (24:05):
His charges. The presumption of innocence operates for both of them.
Do process rights operate for both of them? And you know,
we shouldn't take delight in other people's misfortunes.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
But we have to have a rule of law.
Speaker 8 (24:22):
I mean, we have to have a rule of law.
Speaker 6 (24:23):
Mika and Joe.
Speaker 8 (24:24):
It's such a relief to hear that from people, including
when it's about it just said somebody who is very
close to the president. I mean, first and foremost, the
politics of this are a little hard to predict. But
right now you have the president's son, somebody he loves deeply,
somebody who has very publicly struggled with drug addiction now
facing these charges which are serious. And I'll let Andrew
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do a contemplation of the legality and the process and
all of that, which I know a lot of us
have questions on what is tricky to watch here, and
what I think we all will be watching is what
do Republicans do with this on the Hill as it
relates to their impeachment process Bologney efforts. Right we didn't
see a lot of that yesterday, a lot of the
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tying of these charges to their impeachment efforts. If there
are additional charges that we see from the Department of
Justice that Andrew just alluded to, I suspect they would
try to do that. But right now, what we're looking at,
and I think on the politics of this, you know,
millions of Americans have dealt with family members who have
dealt with drug addiction, who've dealt with alcohol addiction, who
(25:32):
have dealt with a range of addiction. My bet is
right now, this is a heartbroken president in the White
House who is worried about his son, and we're all
watching to see kind of what happens with this.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
So Andrew push, I love this right. We are looking
at a heartbroken old man. And you need to think
about everybody you know that's had too much a drink
or taken drugs to understand that this really isn't a
crime to go buy a gun. And lie, I thought
(26:05):
Democrats were tough on guns. I thought they were tough
on gun crimes. I thought they were in favor of
mandatory minimums for any type of gun crime. These are
the same people that will tell you don't have the
right to own the firearm that Hunter Biden purchased. They're
the same Democrats that will say they want to ban
the gun the Hunter Biden purchase. The same people that
(26:27):
say we need to, you know, get rid of the
loopholes on background checks, right, that's the thing we must do.
And White House pressly gonna former White House President to
Jensaki not hard on gun crimes because this is a
gun crime, not saying that, you know, there has to
be accountability for this. You can't just throw a gun
in a dumpster and hopefully and a kid possibly pick
it up or a criminal then they go kill somebody
(26:47):
with it. Right, No, you can't lie on the form
and when you're getting a background check, because they're obsessed
with background checks, universal background checks. Theyre gonna have background checks,
the loopholes. They go nuts on background checks. Well, here's
your chance to back it up and say, yes, background checks,
Matt and they they should. If you line a background check,
you deserve to be prosecuted. They're not saying that. They're saying,
we have a present that's heartbroken and it's son who's
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dealing with addiction, and God bless them, and let's give
them a hug, and let's just make all this go
away because this is just too mean to the President
of the United States of America. And they're hoping that's
going to work. With enough Americans then it'll be at
least fifty plus one percent that are on their team
on this one. This is a math equation for them.
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The big news Hunter Biden has been indicted. Don't worry.
The media is already covering for Hunter Biden, telling you
on CNN that the case is actually, in their words,
very weak. Yes, it's a weak case. Take a listen
to what they had to say.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Allegations of politics is right, often coming from the former
president himself in terms of what they say is to
to your justice system. But here you have it, as
we noted, first time in US history the son of
a president has been charged by the Justice Department. Kriscnal,
thanks so much. Going to turn it over to Boris
for some legal analysis.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Yeah, let's chat with seeing and legal analyst Jennifer Rogers.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
Jennifer, obviously, again, this is a historic moment, the first
time DOJ has charged the son of a sitting president.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Your reaction to the news, Well, Morris.
Speaker 5 (00:50):
I really think you know, the first time we had
a charge against a former president, it was important that
prosecutors really took their time and built strong cases based
on compelling evidence.
Speaker 6 (00:59):
And the prosecutors have not done that here.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Oh okay, So so within five seconds you've got a
legal analyst who's telling you that more than one hundred
and fifty suspicious activity reports is not evidence. Having a
father that was having meetings with the son and phone
calls and the big guy and funneling money and LLCs.
It had a no product at all to then funnel
that money. Meeting with the worst people in the world,
(01:24):
receiving five million dollars, shaking them down, text messages of
shaking them down is not compelling evidence. Jennifer Rodgers is
the official seen in illegal Analysts, and she's just said
that this case is a weak case, that there's just
nothing here, there's nothing there there. Right, Listen, Listen how
(01:46):
quickly the propaganda comes out immediately when she opens her mouth.
It is telling the world that this is a weak cases,
are weak charges having and by the way, forget all
the other stuff. Let's just talk about this the gun charges. Okay,
we have time stamps from his laptop of pictures of
him doing drugs. We have messages about buying drugs, we
(02:09):
have message about selling drugs on the dates when he
was buying the gun. We can see that he's a
drug addict. And do you have even more evidence, Yes,
he got kicked out of the military for failing a
cocaine test. Never forget that he was in the military.
He got kicked out of the military because he failed
a drug test for cocaine. That's all evidence. But CNN's
(02:30):
legal team says, no, no, no, there's nothing good here. This
is a weak case.
Speaker 6 (02:34):
Chris.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
I really think, you know, the first time we had
a charge against a former president, it was important that
prosecutors really took their time and built strong cases based
on compelling evidence. And I'm afraid the prosecutors have not
done that here. I certainly, if I were making history,
would not want to make it with this set of
facts and these laws.
Speaker 6 (02:53):
I think that this case is weak. It's very, very
rarely charged.
Speaker 5 (02:57):
This section on being an addict in possession of a weapon,
So I think they have a lot of problems both
on the factual side, which is why it's very rarely.
Speaker 6 (03:07):
Charged, and on the legal side.
Speaker 5 (03:08):
You know, after the Supreme Court's decision in the Bruin
case on the Second Amendment, a lot of legal observers
think that all these gun possession statutes are in jeopardy.
And we know that Hunter Biden's lawyers will fight vigorously
on the legal front, saying that after the Supreme Court's
decision that this conviction could not stand.
Speaker 6 (03:25):
So I think they've got a lot of trouble here
ahead and we'll see how it plays out. But I
think it's inadvisable.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
This is why, well it's interest to see. And as
the Communist News Network they break the news federal gun
charges against Hunter Biden, they immediately tell you that there's
no evidence and this is a weak case. I want
to know what their definition of a strong case would be,
And if they were actually somewhat journalistic, had some journalistic integrity,
they would at least have somebody on to ask that question.
(03:56):
If I was doing that segment with that CNN Legal analysts,
whatever the hell her name is, I want to say, Okay,
tell me what a good case looks like. Tell me
what a strong case looks like. If you're saying this
case is weak, having pictures of him doing drugs, having
text message of him ordering drugs, having people talk about
how he's on drugs, having people around him sending a
message worried about his drug use, having him buy a gun,
(04:19):
having his ex his ex sister in law who's now
turned lover, telling him he doesn't want him to have
a gun, and trying to hide the gun from him
because he's a drug addict and she doesn't want him
to off himself or do or harm himself or do
something terrible with that gun. That's why she threw it
away in the dumpster. Remember, it was not because she
was committing a crime. It was because she didn't think
as a drug addict, he should have the gun. So
(04:42):
the question I would then ask on this gun charge
is what does a strong case look like? Like You've
got the time stamps and when the gun was bought,
you have time stamps. At the same time with the
drug use and the drug abuse, you have him lying
on the form how you have him in his own
(05:03):
book talking about how during this time he was addicted
to drugs in his own book, you have family members
on the record on audio and video talking about his
sons about his drug abuse during this time. So what
would a strong case look like? Would you need to
And I'm wondering, like where do we draw the line
(05:25):
from this being quote as they described a week case
to a strong case. Does it have to be a
Republican to be a strong case? Is that the difference here?
Because if that's the difference, then at least state that like,
look if this is a Republican. We would obviously put
him in jail for the rest of his life because
I'll go back to the first impeachment when she talked
(05:46):
about them, you know, they talked about, you know, cases
against presidents and the former presidents. She's clearly referring to Trump.
What was the first case against Donald J. Trumps Russian collusion?
It was based on the Stele dossier. It was created
out of thin air and paid for by the Hillary
Clinton for President campaign. The other part of that dossier
(06:09):
was paid for by the Democratic National Committee, who was
in charge of trying to get their elected to president
United States of America, which at that time was Hillary
Rodham Clinton. When they were impeaching Donald Trump and calling
for investigations at the FBI, that they and then they
started investigating Donald J. Trump. The FBI had already classified
(06:29):
the Steele dossier as ter user generated material user generated propaganda,
meaning that the person who gave them the information they
believed made the information up out of thin air. But
even if that wasn't enough, the FBI offered Christopher Steel
a million dollars to corroborate anything in his dossier. He
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never did it because he couldn't because he made it up.
It's like writing a movie script. He wrote the most
out landis political movie script for a political campaign you
could write, and then they gave it to the media,
and the media ran with the same media that's now
telling you this is a weak case. It's a weak case,
claiming that this has rarely charged this section. And then
(07:12):
there's another aspect of this. Are liberals actually in favor
of tough gun control laws, which they yell, scream, rant
and rave about every time there's a mass shooting in
this country. They want to take away your right to
own a firearm if you deal with mental health issues,
if you deal with depression. They want to be able
to come in and do a psych evaluation on you
at any point and take away every gun you've got.
(07:34):
They want to be able to have ex wives or
ex girlfriends, or ex boyfriends or ex husbands, or our
ex employers be able to turn you in if they
believe you're mentally unstable and unfit to have a firearm.
They want to have a society that was like Germany
back in World War Two, where you're spying on your neighbors,
telling on your neighbors. We already know that, by the way,
(07:55):
because they were doing that in the Catholic church and
trying to recruit parishioners a spy on their Catholic worship
partners in church, other parishioners. We know that this government
also believes that you're a domestic terrorist if you go
to a school board meeting and you're angry over them
in doctoring your kids and transgender and radical ideas like
(08:18):
drag queen shows and discussing vile books on sexual interactions
with extreme issues in it. And if you show up
and there's a dude that assaults your child in the
women's bathroom, because that dude's a dude, not a chick,
and you get angry that school board meeting, the FEDS
(08:38):
will arrest you. They'll take you out in handcuffs. That
happen in Virginia, and then they'll classify anybody else standing
up for that father whose daughter was sexually assaulted in
the bathroom by a man claiming to be a woman
in high school, that you are now a domestic terrorist.
You should be true the same I guess as a
member of al Qaeda. So if there was an argument
(09:02):
to be made on CNN that should have been made
by somebody on the other side. It would have been
what does a strong case look like? Is it only
is it number one? Is it only a Republican that
makes a strong case of it's Democrats not? Or did
you have to have a confessional video of Hunter Biden
looking at the camera saying, broadcasting it to the world. Hig,
I'm Hunter Biden. I'm about to take cocaine and then
(09:24):
I'm walking into the store and I'm gonna livestream me
filling out this form and then buying the gun. Oh wait,
we basically have that. We have videos of him doing drugs,
and then we have the date of when he went
and bought the gun. By the way, the Democrats knew
this was a big deal, And how do we know
that after the gun was thrown away in the dumpster
and then the search, the quick fast search to find
(09:47):
that gun was thrown away in a dumpster behind a
school by his lover ex sister in law who threw
that away that gun of Hunter Biden's. The Secret Service also,
if you remember, even though Joe Biden was no longer
the vice president and did not have secrets protection to
(10:08):
Secret Service agents showed up at that gun store asking
to get the forms back, and that gun store owner
was brave and said, you can go to hell. You
have no jurisdiction in here. I do not have to
hand you the paperwork of Hunter Biden. I know what
you're trying to do. You're trying to cover up a
crime and make it all go away before it becomes
an issue. Never forget that part of the story, because
(10:29):
that's part of the most damning part of the cover
up of this story. But hey, if you're watching CNN,
their words this case is weak. I thought Democrats were
tough on guns. I guess it's only if it's a Republican.
I want to also go back to a reminder of
how many lies have been told by the Bidens. I mean,
(10:50):
it's a hell of a lot of them, and how
many lives have been told by the media in the past.
Say me, that's now telling you the gun charges are
weak charges against Hunter Biden. They picked only charges that
would insight late Hunter from any type of investigation that
would connect him to his father. But let me just
remind you of all the corruption the Biden family that
we know of as of now, I've.
Speaker 7 (11:10):
Never discussed with my son's from my brother or anyone
else and make heaven to.
Speaker 8 (11:15):
Do with their business.
Speaker 7 (11:17):
President Biden met with at least fourteen of Hunter's business
associates while he was vice president.
Speaker 9 (11:22):
And Vice president Joe Biden at dinner with his son Hunter,
along with Hunter's business associates from Ukraine, Russia and Kazakhstan,
and the day after the dinner, a Barisma executive said
a note to Hunter quoting dear Hunter, thank you for
inviting me to DC and giving an opportunity to meet
your father and spend some time together.
Speaker 7 (11:42):
Hunter's lucrative business dealings often included giving as much as
fifty percent of his earnings to his dad.
Speaker 10 (11:48):
The text read quote, I hope you all can do
what I did and pay for everything for this entire
family for thirty years. It's really hard, but don't worry
onlike pop, I won't make you give me half your salary.
Speaker 11 (12:00):
His son Hunter joining the then Vice president on the
official visit to Beijing. Unknown to the press, back then,
Hunter Biden was forming a Chinese private equity funds planning
to raise money, including from Chinese investors. Ten days after
the Bidens trip, Chehai authorities issued the fund's business license, and.
Speaker 12 (12:17):
The Hunter introduced me as this is Tony Dad, the
individual I told you about that's helping us with the
business that we're working on in the Chinese.
Speaker 13 (12:26):
The email reads this way quote at the moment, there's
a provisional agreement that the equity will be distributed as
follows ten held by Hunter for the big guy.
Speaker 12 (12:35):
I have a thousand percent set here and know that
the big guy is referencing Joe Biden. I met with
a former vice president in person multiple times.
Speaker 14 (12:44):
A newly revealed text message, Jose Bobolinski was apparently warned
by business partner James Gillier, don't mention Joe being involved.
It's only when you are face to face. I know
you know that, but they are paranoid.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
Chinese executives admitted to reporters that they were actually intro
reduced to the vice presidents by Hunter.
Speaker 9 (13:02):
Biden, Hunter and the then vice president seeing for the
pair of Mexican billionaires.
Speaker 15 (13:06):
At the same time, Hunter had been working on energy
deals in Mexico.
Speaker 10 (13:10):
Joe Biden also had Hunter at his business partner fly
On f was two to Mexico.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
His closest business partner.
Speaker 7 (13:17):
Hunters made at least nineteen visits to the White House
and other official locations, including a sit down with then
Vice President Joe Biden in the West Wing.
Speaker 13 (13:25):
There's photographic evidence of Biden on a golf out and
with both his son Hunter and a man called Devon Archer,
who was another member of the Paris Maboor.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
We also know that Devin Archer in that picture had
a meeting in the White House, one on one meeting
with Joe Biden about a week before they joined the
Maarie Ma.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Board, before they joined the bearis My board. Because member,
it wasn't just the money coming into Joe Biden, the
five million and the five million dollars per son. He
was also his business partner who was on the board
at Barisma, who was then getting his millions and millions
of dollars by sitting on that board. And a week
(14:02):
before they were on that board in Ukraine Embarisma, he
went and met one on one with the Vice President
of United States of America, Joe Biden. So let's just
go back to this news. When it broke, MSNBC came
out and MSNBC was like, we have breaking news here, right,
this's a big deal. Hunter Biden and died in Delaware.
(14:23):
Then immediately see an end's downplaying it, saying that charges are,
of course very weak, very weak charges. You notice that
everything I just played for you, none of it involves
any of the other corruption on the actual crimes committed
by the Vice president now president of the United States
of America. But MSNBC is trying to play it up
like this is so damning, like this is justice in
(14:45):
a sense for the Biden family.
Speaker 7 (14:48):
Breaking news. Now we have just learned and we just
got the paperwork that Hunter Biden, the President's son, has
been indicted for lying when buying a gun. I want
to bring an NBC's Garrett, Hey, Garrett, what can you tell.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
Us, well, Chris, This indictment just unsealed in Delaware charges
Hunter Biden with three counts, all related to that gun purchase.
It describes two counts of knowingly making a false or
fictitious statement when purchasing a gun, basically accusing him of
lying about being addicted to drugs at the time he
was purchasing this weapon pistol in October of twenty eighteen,
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and the third count is that he did knowingly possess
that same firearm while essentially while being addicted to a
controlled substance. So these are counts that were all thought
to have been dealt with in that plea deal that
fell apart a couple of months ago, kicking things back
to the US Attorney Now Special Council Weiss handling this
(15:43):
in Delaware, a former US attorney in the district of Delaware. Again,
this indictment on Field dealing only with the gun and
drug charges. I think it's reasonable to presume we have
not heard the last of charges against the President's son,
given the scope of what was originally in front of
the US Attorney and the kind of falling apart back
to the drawing board to bring forward these counts.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Now, I gotta say I totally disagree with MSNBC there.
I think they're full of crap. I think they're trying
to act like this as a full hardcore investigation, which
it clearly isn't. There's also something else very interesting that
just happened, and that is the White House has now
moved the goalpost for the third time on the involvement
(16:26):
of Joe Biden with Hunter Biden and the Biden crime family. Remember,
at first it was Joe Biden has never talked about
business with his family, his son or anyone, his brother,
anybody in the family. He always made sure that that
never happened, right, That was what they said. Then about
(16:46):
a month ago they changed that narrative to he was
never in business. That was how they described it. He
was never in business with his son. And everybody's like,
whoa that like had a brain like me, and others
that were like, wholl well, hold on a second. You
guys just completely admitted now that they talked to business.
(17:08):
And now you're saying, well, it's it's not about talking business, right,
it's now about being in business. They've now changed it
a third time. And it was a very quick check
the box of mission. Okay from White House's spokesman White
House Counsel's office. Okay, So this is the legal representative
(17:32):
of the presidency, Ian Sam's he's a spokesman the White
House Counsel's office. And this is what he had to
say on CNN as he was talking about this new
indictment of the president's son. And notice and listen carefully.
He's now admitting that not only did Joe Biden help
his son, but he actually attended Hunter Biden's business meetings,
(17:56):
and the reason why is because quote, he loves him.
So now saying okay, they did talk business, he was
on the phone talking about the weather. That was excuse
a week or two ago, and now it's okay, we're
admitting that Joe Biden did, in fact attend business meetings
with Hunter Biden that made him millions and millions of dollars.
But he only because he loved him. Nothing. The fairy
(18:16):
is here. Listen carefully.
Speaker 15 (18:18):
Their allegations is the president was present at some of
the meetings between Hunter Biden and his business associates. Why
was the president at those meetings on those phone calls?
Speaker 3 (18:30):
Well, again, I think this is part of the Right
wings misinformation machine to try to confuse people about what
the truth is. The truth is that the President, as
he has said publicly for years, calls his family every
day to check in. He calls his son every day
to check in. He calls his other family members to
check in to see how they're doing.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
He loves them.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
They're a tight knit family. And what the GOP's own
witness testified in this case is that that's exactly what
the President was doing. He was checking in with Hunter
during a particularly hard time. I might add a time
where the family was going through Hunter's brother, BEA's illness,
and of course the president checks in with his son
and talks to them. But again that witness testified no
(19:11):
business dealings of Hunter Biden's or anyone's was discussed in
these conversations. And so again they're trying to make this
sort of strange connection when their own investigation has disproven
these claims.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Before I let you go back, by the way, that's
just not true. You noticed he didn't answer the question.
The question was why was Joe Biden attending Hunter Biden
business meetings? That was the question. Then he went to, well,
they checked in with each other every day. So your
son's in a business meeting and you drive across town's
the vice president with secret service to go check in
(19:43):
on him to make sure he's okay during the middle
of a business meeting. Does anyone believe that? Of course not,
and if you do, you're an idiot. So listen to
the follow up question here from Cina, because what CNN
should have done again, if they weren't scumbag journalists, fake journalists,
communist journalists, propagandists for the Biden administration, he would have
(20:04):
cut him off in the middle. That answered, said Ian,
the spokesperson for the White House Count's office. I didn't
ask you about checking out the SUN. I asked you
about why was he in business meetings? That's the question
I'm asking you. Notice how they didn't they just let
him put out the propaganda and then listen to this.
Speaker 15 (20:20):
Does the president response in terms of how the President
has reacted to this, especially as somebody who's been in
politics and been in Washington for as long as he
has been, the idea that he is now a subject
to an impeachment inquiry as president of the United States,
what's his response to that?
Speaker 3 (20:35):
You know, the President has been in politics for a
long time, and I think, as he would say, he's
seen a lot of malarkey along the way, but this
might take the cake. You know, he's focused on the
issues that actually matter to the American people. You just
saw him spending the last week traveling around the world,
shoring up our alliances, advancing national interests in Asia, our
economic interests in Asia, showing American leadership on the world stage.
(20:57):
He's coming back here. He's announcing today billion dollar investment
in cancer research try to finally cure cancer. That's what
his administration and this president is focused on every day.
They're focused on the actual needs of the American people.
And I think what he would say is maybe the
House Republicans should join them.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
You know, I laugh at this one. You know you're
in political trouble when you decide randomly on a Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Hey,
let's announce we're going to cure cancer. By the way,
I'm in favor of curing cancer. I'm in favor of
(21:35):
research and development to get treatments and drugs that protect
people and help people to have cancer. Everybody I know
knows somebody that's been affected by cancer. But to then
use as a political polm like a right, guys, we
need a victory here. We're starting to take on water.
What do we do? All right, let's cure cancer. Great,
great idea. Okay, let's get back some Americans somewhere in
(21:57):
the world. Who's got some American hostages we can get back.
Oh there's a rant. Okay, great, what does it take
to do that? Give him some really bad guys back
and then give them six billion dollars and then and
then we can claim we got Americans back, we're fighting
for Americans. Okay, great, let's do that. Let's do that.
I mean the idea that the White House has now
changed the goalposts again. Did Joe Biden attended Hunter's business
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meetings where they were making millions and millions and millions
and millions of dollars only because quote, he loves him?
It's this is a love story, right. It's a father
who loves his son, who would just happen to show
up in a meeting where him showing up at that
meeting would make them ten million dollars. But he wasn't
there for the business. He was there to check on
his son, right like they're checking they're checking on his son.
(22:49):
Special Counsel David Weiss, By the way, you want to
know what he's saying about all this? This is the
same guy that gave the sweetheart deal, who worked in
the same law firm that was representing Hunter Biden, who
then switch sides. Who's then protecting Hunter Biden, who gave
him the immunity sweetheart deal that then got blown up.
Who's now the special counsel? What does he have to say,
Special council?
Speaker 16 (23:07):
Why he's only releasing a paper statement staying mom about
the charges when pressed by NBC News, but a spokesperson
for the Special Counsel's office says, the investigation continues.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
Oh well that's encouraging, right, no comment. So the guy
that gave the deal that was one hell of a deal,
who then only charges him with the crimes to protect
the father, then says no comment, all of a sudden
on all of this, no comment, right, like this is
no comment here. Former White House Press Secretary now Propaganda's
(23:43):
at MSNBC Jinsaki came out saying she's heartbroken for the president,
heartbroken for Joe Biden, who's in the White House is
now worried about his son. Heartbroken. You should feel bad
for this old man in the White House. They're now
going to play the age card, the grandpa card, the
dad card, and that you should that he's heartbroken and
you should give him a hug.
Speaker 17 (24:05):
His charges. The presumption of innocence operates for both of them.
Do process rights operate for both of them? And you know,
we shouldn't take delight in other people's misfortunes.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
But we have to have a rule of law.
Speaker 8 (24:22):
I mean, we have to have a rule of law.
Speaker 6 (24:23):
Mika and Joe.
Speaker 8 (24:24):
It's such a relief to hear that from people, including
when it's about it just said somebody who is very
close to the president. I mean, first and foremost, the
politics of this are a little hard to predict. But
right now you have the president's son, somebody he loves deeply,
somebody who has very publicly struggled with drug addiction now
facing these charges which are serious. And I'll let Andrew
(24:48):
do a contemplation of the legality and the process and
all of that, which I know a lot of us
have questions on what is tricky to watch here, and
what I think we all will be watching is what
do Republicans do with this on the Hill as it
relates to their impeachment process Bologney efforts. Right we didn't
see a lot of that yesterday, a lot of the
(25:09):
tying of these charges to their impeachment efforts. If there
are additional charges that we see from the Department of
Justice that Andrew just alluded to, I suspect they would
try to do that. But right now, what we're looking at,
and I think on the politics of this, you know,
millions of Americans have dealt with family members who have
dealt with drug addiction, who've dealt with alcohol addiction, who
(25:32):
have dealt with a range of addiction. My bet is
right now, this is a heartbroken president in the White
House who is worried about his son, and we're all
watching to see kind of what happens with this.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
So Andrew push, I love this right. We are looking
at a heartbroken old man. And you need to think
about everybody you know that's had too much a drink
or taken drugs to understand that this really isn't a
crime to go buy a gun. And lie, I thought
(26:05):
Democrats were tough on guns. I thought they were tough
on gun crimes. I thought they were in favor of
mandatory minimums for any type of gun crime. These are
the same people that will tell you don't have the
right to own the firearm that Hunter Biden purchased. They're
the same Democrats that will say they want to ban
the gun the Hunter Biden purchase. The same people that
(26:27):
say we need to, you know, get rid of the
loopholes on background checks, right, that's the thing we must do.
And White House pressly gonna former White House President to
Jensaki not hard on gun crimes because this is a
gun crime, not saying that, you know, there has to
be accountability for this. You can't just throw a gun
in a dumpster and hopefully and a kid possibly pick
it up or a criminal then they go kill somebody
(26:47):
with it. Right, No, you can't lie on the form
and when you're getting a background check, because they're obsessed
with background checks, universal background checks. Theyre gonna have background checks,
the loopholes. They go nuts on background checks. Well, here's
your chance to back it up and say, yes, background checks,
Matt and they they should. If you line a background check,
you deserve to be prosecuted. They're not saying that. They're saying,
we have a present that's heartbroken and it's son who's
(27:09):
dealing with addiction, and God bless them, and let's give
them a hug, and let's just make all this go
away because this is just too mean to the President
of the United States of America. And they're hoping that's
going to work. With enough Americans then it'll be at
least fifty plus one percent that are on their team
on this one. This is a math equation for them.
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