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Speaker 1 (00:01):
So when you hate Donald Trump and you try to
take all of his property, and then you try to
put him in financial ruin, you try to get him
a file for bankruptcy, you try to lock him up
and it's not really working. And then you see Joe
Biden dropping in the polls to an all time new low.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
What do you do next?
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Well, we now know what the left is going to
do next, and that is the judge in the New
York case is now saying he is holding Donald Trump
in quote criminal contempt for gag order violations and is
now threatening to put him in jail for a significant
amount of time. That, by the way, is what you
would refer to as a literal election interference. Now, this
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New York County Judge one Merchant, has ruled that the
former president Trump quote violated the gag order during his trial,
holding him in criminal contempt and then saying jail time
for any further infractions. Now, the judge also ordered Trum
to remove the quote seven offending pose from his truth
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Social account. The defendant quote is hereby warned that the
Court will not tolerate continued willful violations of its lawful orders,
and that if necessary and appropriate under the circumstances, it
will impose an incarceerary punishment, the judge wrote in the order.
That's not all he said, and I'm going to have
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Speaker 2 (03:24):
Now let's get back to this judge.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
The judge ordered that the defendant pay a thousand dollars
fine referring to Trump for each of his nine violations
of the Court's quote lawful order by the close of
business on Friday, May the third. And it is further
ordered that the defendant removed the seven offending posts from
the defendant's true social account and two offending posts from
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his campaign website by two fifteen on Tuesday, April the thirtieth. Now,
the judge had the authority to send Trump to jail
for up to thirty days for allegedly violating his gag order.
The Democratic Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg back down from
asking to judge to jail Trump for allegedly violating the order.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
According to the court.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Reporters, Trump appeared to call Alvin Bragg's bluff. Trump said
in April that it would be a great honor to
become a modern day Nelson Mandela in the clink for
speaking the truth about the judge. The gag order, by
the way, prevents Donald Trump, who's literally running for president
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a former president, from making public comments about witnesses participating
in the trial council other than brag members of the
court's staff and the District attorney's staff, or the family
members of any council or staff member, if those statements
are made with the intent to materially interfere with counselor
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staff's work on the case. It also encompasses jurors. Now
the gag order has to come off. Is what Trump
previously told reporters outside the Manhattan courthouse, saying, quote, people
are allowed to speak about me, and I have a
gag order. Just to show you how much more unfair
it is. He's right, by the way, because the star witness,
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Michael Cohen, has the ability to go on any TV show, anywhere,
any interviews and rip the president.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
And he is the quote main the most.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Important witness in this trial. So that guy can hammer Trump,
and Trump can't respond while he's running for president.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Give me a break.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Quote Trump said, they can say anything they want. Trump
said about all.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
His political foes.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
They can continue to make up lies and everything else,
and they lie. They're real scum. But you know what,
I'm not allowed to speak. So why am I gagged
about telling the truth? Trump then asked, I'm only telling
the truth. They're not telling the truth. In fact, here's
a little bit more about what Donald Trump had to
say outside of the courtroom earlier today.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
The whole thing is a hoax, All of overre hoaxes,
including the civil cases. They're controlled by the White House.
They're controlled by Democrat judges and prosecutes that will put
this specifically, they ate Trump and the people getting it.
That's why we just came out of New Emerson. Ball
just was released about two minutes ago, and I'm leading
by a lot in every swing state and leading in
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the general election. And you saw the CNN call. I'm
sure they aren't too happy with it, but the CNN
poll was fantastic.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
So we're here.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
This is a hoax. This is a judges conflicted, badly, badly,
badly conflicted. I've never seen the judge helf conflicted and
giving us virtually no rulings. I'm not even allowed to
say advice and counsel. This is a new one to me.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
Advice of counsel.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
And you have a lawyer and the lawyer does something
or advises you in something, you say advice and counsel.
He said, you're not allowed to say that, and so
you'll all figure it out. But I think the public
has figured it out because the poll numbers are the highest.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
They've ever been.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
The President making it clear this is a hoax.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
I think the public has figured it out because the
poll numbers are the highest they've ever been. And by
the way, I do think people are figuring out that
this is a hoax. But Democrats understand that if Trump
can't talk, then they can change the narrative, and that
is exactly what they are trying to do. I also
believe that the president's poll numbers have changed because the
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American people.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Have no faith in Joe Biden.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
They have no faith in what he's doing with our economy,
and they understand just how bad things actually are. Now,
let's go back real quick to Alvin Bragg, Who's the
guy who basically the Trump called his bluff saying, all right,
you want to put me in jail, put me in jail.
Bragg is a guy that ran off of going after
Donald Trump. Bragg is a guy that apparently has raised
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at least eight hundred thousand dollars off of indicting Donald Trump.
And Bragg is the guy that charged Trump with thirty
four felonies in the criminal case concerning alleged election interference,
and a legal retainer paid to Michael Cohen, who can
say whatever he wants. The trial is the first ever
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ever criminal trial of a president of the United States,
and yes, Donald Trump could face serious jail time if
in fact he is convicted.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Now, let me also tell you what.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
The American people think about this. A majority now of
Americans doubt that Trump's criminal trial will conclude with a
fair outcome. A new CNN poll that came out on
Friday found this increasing numbers of Americans see the criminal
trial of Trump as quote irrelevant to his fitness for reelection.
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The CNM pull further found that while only thirteen percent
believe Trump is being treated the same as other criminal defendants,
only about one third of American adults believe Trump did
anything Let me say that again, only about one third
of American adults believe Trump did anything illegal regarding the case.
So that means even Democrats are now admitting, hey, we
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know this is crap, and we know we're trying to
have him put in jail and shut him.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Up, and we understand what's going on here. Now.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
I also want to play for you something that Peter
Sweitzer said on his podcast. Peter Switzer said something interesting
about Joe Biden's sinister but brilliant campaign strategy that is
in fact law fair, meaning you go after your political opponents,
you tie them up, maybe you put them in jail
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during the campaign, which is exactly what we're witnessing right now.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Take a listen.
Speaker 5 (09:59):
So some very very interesting comments that Joe Biden made.
Of course, the White House corresponds dinner. You're trying to
be funny, you're trying to be humorous, but it often
offers an insider a glimpse into what people are really thinking.
We think that's the case with Joe Biden, because he
had some very interesting things to say about the legal
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threats that Donald Trump is under. Right now, let's listen
to Joe Biden.
Speaker 6 (10:25):
I had a great stretch since the State of the Union. Well,
Donald's had a few tough days lately, you might call
it stormy weather. What the hell Trump's so desperate. He
started reading those Bibles he's selling. Then he got to
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the first commandment, you shall have no other gods before me.
That's when he put it down and said, this book's
not for me.
Speaker 5 (10:57):
So attempted humor there, I mean, got some chuckles course
from the media, but there was that little twist about
the tough days and a little twist about the legal
threat that Donald Trump is under. And we're going to
talk about that today because our contention is and I
think the evidence is pretty clear, is that campaigns are
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now changing dramatically because what you are seeing is law
fare in action. Used to be in the old days,
you ran for president, you needed a polster, you needed
political consultants. It seems like now, beginning in the year
of Donald Trump, you also need to hire a bunch
of lawyers because the Biden administration has clearly come for
Donald Trump. And we're going to lay out today the
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timeline of how that's actually happened.
Speaker 7 (11:39):
It's interesting to think about this morphine to your point
of things that used to be done by the campaign,
the Biden administration is now asking the federal government to perform.
We did a podcast several weeks ago where we said
that every agency within the federal government is now being
weaponized as a political turnout the vote vote operation, and
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that is a thing that used to be the job
of a campaign, but now it's the Department of Education
is saying, hey, you will give you pel grants, but
you need to be out registering people to vote. And
they're targeting voting populations that would disproportionately vote for a
Democratic candidate, which happens to be the same president. That's problematic.
It's a departure from how things have done before. And
we've talked about it, and you're now seeing the exact
same thing happen. To your point, with the Department of Justice,
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you have aspects of the federal government essentially operating as
another arm of the Biden campaign.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
And it's got to think very troubling.
Speaker 7 (12:35):
It projects in a very troubling way moving forward, because
if this is how it's going to be, and everyone's
kind of okay with because Donald Trump, what happens if
it's not Donald Trump, or if it's Donald Trump in charge?
Speaker 5 (12:44):
Yeah, I mean, in other words, you're saying you can
take the criminal justice system and you can weaponize it.
And this is a strategy known as lawfair, and it
started in the early two thousands. It's really interesting if
you see how this transition has taken place. It started
in the early two thousand. Lawfair was this new idea,
we are going to use the legal system of the
United States and the international legal system to go after
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bad guys like terrorists, like Saddam Hussein, like the Russian government,
and we are going to weaponize the legal system to
try to seize their assets, to tie them up in court.
What's happened, our contention is going to be is it
has now been turned on domestic political opponents that the
Biden administration has said, Hey, it worked kind of well
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against al Qaeda, it worked pretty well against Saddam Hussein,
it worked pretty well against Vladimir Putin.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Tie them up.
Speaker 5 (13:33):
We're maybe going to apply this domestically in the United
States against Donald Trump. But I think there's pretty ample
evidence that there is coordination and cooperation between the Biden
administration and these prosecutions that appear to be quote unquote
randomly occurring around the country.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Well, let's just dive into a little bit of this.
And I played Peter. I like Peter a lot. Peter
is one hell of an author. He writes some really
good books about the bio crime family. His point here
that he's making, I think is spot on. And what
he's saying is you have a government that would weaponize
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the deep state to go after al Qaeda, and it
works so well that they're like, all right, maybe we
should just do the same exact thing against our political opponent.
The opponent has moved from Osama bin.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Laden right too.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Now it's like, all right, well, I mean let's make
it Donald Trump. It works really well. That's our biggest opponent.
That's who we hate. That's who we want to go after,
So let's go after them. The Government, by the Way,
Accountability Institute constructed a timeline of events, which is really important.
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It actually shows the extent of the White House's involvement
and these supposedly independent prosecutions.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
It's really clear.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Now that Biden has weaponized the federal agencies for democratic
voter turnout efforts, that he's used taxpayer dollars on a
political persecution that is a blatant effort to attack and
hobble to hamstring to cut the knees out from his
political opponent.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
You'll look at Fanny Willis, for example.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
The Fulton County prosecutor that was prosecuting Trump and Georgia
on election interference charges. She even showed up at the
White House correspondence to her last week. She corruptly hired
her boyfriend Nathan Wade, at a cost of more than
six hundred and twenty five thousand dollars to handle the
daily work of that case, and he had never once.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Prosecuted a case like this.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
We know that Wade made not one but two trips
of White House and may have twenty twenty two and
again in November of the same year for meetings and
not with the Department of Justice officials, but with staff
at the White House Council's office. Wade was later forced,
as you noticed, stepped down from that job by a
judge because of the corruption. Then you look at April
twenty twenty two, the Biden White House leaked a story
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on purpose to The New York Times showing Biden confided
in his inner circle it's frustration with the Attorney General
Merrick Garland for not throwing the book at Trump. Four
months later, Trump's Marlago residence was rated by the FBI
at Garland's direction. What's even more interesting is another incident
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happened in December of twenty twenty two, when the number
three person at the Department of Justice in Washington, d C.
Announced he was leaving the GoJ to take a job
with the Manhattan DA's office.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Number three.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Okay, you're the third guy, You're the third top dude
of the Department of Justice in DC, and then you
announce I'm going to leave the DOJ. I'm gonna take
a job in the Manhattan DA's office. Are you kidding me?
While the Manhattan Day's Office does matter, This was a
massive step down, Witzer said, for them, especially for the
third highest ranking DOJ official. Why make the move other
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than that Joe Biden wanted direct input into the New
York prosecution. And then two other members of the New
York prosecutor's team were involved in the Trump organization's previous
course court case for conspiracy, criminal tax fraud, and falsifying
business records that was also reported on.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
By The Times.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Now, when you look at these three different people that
went to the Manhattan's DA's office, and one of them
is the third highest Department of Justice official, just understand
that one of these three would later deliver the prosecution's
opening statement and the Trump trial in Manhattan. And what
Peter Schweitzer says this, this has all of the markings
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they quote, fingerprints to the White House all over it.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
The combined weight of all.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
These prosecutions, particularly the New York came order preventing Trump
from leaving the state while the case is ongoing.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
So a lot of people don't even realize that.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
And you need to understand that Donald Trump can't leave
New York while this case is going on.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
That is a order from the court. What does that
mean that means in one of.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
The most least likely states for Donald Trump to win, right,
that's New York. He is stuck there until this thing
is over and can't go out and actually run his
presidential campaign. That is the definition of election interference.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
That is what this is.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
It is the definition of election interference. All Right, You're
stuck in a state when there's a bunch of other
states you need to be going to when you're running
for president. It also gives your opponent, Joe Biden, the
ability to in essence run unopposed in these other states
as well, giving him another advantage.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
And what Schweizer says to this quote constitutes.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
A direct hobbling of Trump's ability to campaign for president
and gain vast amounts of earned media with as well
attended rallies across the country. This is a sinister but
brilliant strategy, as Sweitzer noted, because even if Trump were
to win all of the cases, it still forces him
to spend tens of millions of dollars to fight them
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all and it gets them stuck in court.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
So what does that mean.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
This is a classic aim of law fare, and it's
being done with taxpayers dollars, right, All of this is
costing you money. Every bit of this is costing you money.
The Biden administration is using federal agencies all right. On
top of that, the stoke voter turnout among targeted Democratic voters.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
We know that.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
So if you look at what's going on now with
your dollars and with your government, this is it. Whether
it's the insanity on these college campuses being funded by
the left, whether it's going after the president of United
States of America, former President, I should say, Donald Trump,
they're using your tax dours to go after him, to
prosecute him, to attack him.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
I am telling you this better backfire.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
We better hunker down, and we better remind people that
this is exactly what this judge has been directed to do.
I would argue from the Biden administration, with all of
these prosecutors taking massive emotions to come there and to
go after Trump, because there will be a payday for
them down the road. There will be a hey, well done,
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you good soldier. Come back to DC and I'm giving
you a bigger job. That is what is going to
happen with all of this. And again it is Donald Trump.
Donald Trump is the only one in all of this
that can't talk. The key witness can talk, can do
as many interviews as he wants to. We know that,
and it is incredibly frustrating to witness this happen. Right now.
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I want you to hear what Mike Davis had to say.
This was on He's the founder and president of the
Article three project, and this is what he had to
say about the president's gag order and what it means.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
This is Biden driven election interference and lawfare, and there's
going to there are going to be severe legal, political,
and financial consequences.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
And it includes not only the people.
Speaker 4 (21:16):
In the governments in the Biden Justice Department, Fulton County
DA's office, Big Tish's office in New York, the Age,
Alvin Bragg's office in Manhattan, that dumb prosecutor out in Arizona,
the Arizona Age, whoever that new woman is out there
who stole the election from Aid by disenfranchising voters on
election date. It's also going to include these washed up
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lawyers and judges on the outside are colluding with these
government officials like Andrew Weisman and many others to run
this lawfair. This is a criminal conspiracy, guys, lawyer up.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
It's a criminal conspiracy. I can't disagree with what he's
saying there, I really can't. I think it's actually incredibly
accurate what he is saying, because this is all a
conspiracy to handcuff Donald Trump from the very beginning. It's
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what Trump said earlier about this, right, he said, this
is a hoax. And I think the public has figured out.
I hope they have. I really, really, really really.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Do something else.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
By the way I want you to hear is how
MSNBC and even the Washington Post columnist Jamison what they
had to say about Michael Cohen. Michael Cohen can go
out there say what everyone's say, do whatever he wants
to do.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
He's a star witness, right He's a.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Convicted a guy that's convicted of lying, and the entire
case revolves around him. Listen to what MSNBC had to
say about him. It's very interesting.
Speaker 8 (22:49):
Donald Trump's former fixer, Michael Cohen has been billed as
a star witness of the hush money trial, but clearly
he's been ignoring rule number one. Save your best stuff
for the stand and don't play into the defense's best
arguments against you. For example, he promised on X on
April twenty fourth that he will cease posting about Trump
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on x or on his podcast, something clearly prosecutors would
like him to stop doing. But apparently that did not
include his TikTok Live because here he was last night
when I put out.
Speaker 9 (23:23):
That tweet that turned around and said that I was
not going to discuss anything to do with the trial
or my former Employloyer or anything like that.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
And I think I've lived up to that.
Speaker 9 (23:39):
The Maga, the mega morons, hook line and Sinker.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
If mild Trump told.
Speaker 9 (23:45):
Them one plus one equals three, they will fight you, too,
thin nail.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
That's the crazy thing, too, right. Those hats are hideous.
Oh my god, No, no, no, And I'm not saying it.
Speaker 9 (23:57):
Other people it was like, oh my god, everything about Hey, that's.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
That's not true.
Speaker 9 (24:02):
It's not true.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
It's not true at all. I am just saying.
Speaker 9 (24:06):
That they are not the kind of hats that you.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Wear to I don't even know what. I don't even
know how to describe them.
Speaker 9 (24:13):
They're with the with the with the string that goes
across the top of it.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
I mean, it's just it's it's an ugly hat.
Speaker 9 (24:23):
It has the string, a hat as his red as
his red gold sneakers are. I mean, you know, the
sneakers are ugly too.
Speaker 8 (24:33):
I want to bring in Washington Post staff writer Peter Jamison,
who just wrote an extensive piece on Cohen and Jeremysland is.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Back with us.
Speaker 8 (24:41):
I'm going to start with you, Peter, because you did
such a deep dive. So here's a guy who says,
I'm not going to talk about this on X I'm
not going to talk about Donald Trump on my podcast,
and yet to raise money and if people are not
familiar with that live version of TikTok, people can post
emojis and he makes money off of it. So that's
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what all that stuff is that's popping up. But is
this kind of classic Michael Cohen.
Speaker 10 (25:08):
I mean, look, Michael Cohen is making a strong case
for himself being the most irrepressibly voluble star witness in
history at this point. I mean, he's you know, he's
written two memoirs on his experiences with former President Donald Trump.
He's hosted a very popular podcast actually has had a
number of celebrities on to both you know, talk about
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his personal journey working for Trump and then turning against him,
and also his broader thoughts on Trump and the political
movement he leads. And I think this is the sense
classic Michael Cohen. I mean, he's been very chatty in
a way that I'm sure has given prosecutors a magic
at various moments about the things that he you know,
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directly or indirectly, the things he will be addressing when
he takes the stand.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
In this trial.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
You listen to the way that he just him this
guy's out there making money because of this court case.
He's getting to do and say whatever he wants, and
no one's telling him to shut up. And he's a
star witness that's gonna have to testify against Donald Trump,
like he's the star witness. If you need any more
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examples than that of just how much of a witch
hunt this is, I'm sorry, you're a special kind of
stupid if you still don't see it. You look at
all of this and they act like all these cases
are somehow independent, they're not. This is all perfectly orchestrated
by the White House. It is all perfect perfectly orchestrated
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by a group of prosecutors who were at the DJ
who then said, all right, we got to get out
of here. We gotta go help make these cases. We
got to go prosecute. We gotta keep him and force
him to stay, right, force.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Him to stay.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
We gotta, we gotta, we gotta re really, really, really
really really force him to stay in New York so
that you can't go out there in campaign. And this
is going to be amazing, it's going to be brilliant.
We're gonna hamstring him, he won't be able to do events,
and then we're gonna maybe even put him in jail.
And the majority of Americans, even Democrats, believe that this
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is like total crap.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
But remember, you can believe.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
It's total crap if you're a Democrat and they're still
going to vote against him. That's the whole point here,
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Speaker 2 (27:45):
I'll see you back here tomorrow.
So when you hate Donald Trump and you try to
take all of his property, and then you try to
put him in financial ruin, you try to get him
a file for bankruptcy, you try to lock him up
and it's not really working. And then you see Joe
Biden dropping in the polls to an all time new low.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
What do you do next?
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Well, we now know what the left is going to
do next, and that is the judge in the New
York case is now saying he is holding Donald Trump
in quote criminal contempt for gag order violations and is
now threatening to put him in jail for a significant
amount of time. That, by the way, is what you
would refer to as a literal election interference. Now, this
(00:42):
New York County Judge one Merchant, has ruled that the
former president Trump quote violated the gag order during his trial,
holding him in criminal contempt and then saying jail time
for any further infractions. Now, the judge also ordered Trum
to remove the quote seven offending pose from his truth
(01:04):
Social account. The defendant quote is hereby warned that the
Court will not tolerate continued willful violations of its lawful orders,
and that if necessary and appropriate under the circumstances, it
will impose an incarceerary punishment, the judge wrote in the order.
That's not all he said, and I'm going to have
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Speaker 2 (03:24):
Now let's get back to this judge.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
The judge ordered that the defendant pay a thousand dollars
fine referring to Trump for each of his nine violations
of the Court's quote lawful order by the close of
business on Friday, May the third. And it is further
ordered that the defendant removed the seven offending posts from
the defendant's true social account and two offending posts from
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his campaign website by two fifteen on Tuesday, April the thirtieth. Now,
the judge had the authority to send Trump to jail
for up to thirty days for allegedly violating his gag order.
The Democratic Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg back down from
asking to judge to jail Trump for allegedly violating the order.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
According to the court.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Reporters, Trump appeared to call Alvin Bragg's bluff. Trump said
in April that it would be a great honor to
become a modern day Nelson Mandela in the clink for
speaking the truth about the judge. The gag order, by
the way, prevents Donald Trump, who's literally running for president
(04:32):
a former president, from making public comments about witnesses participating
in the trial council other than brag members of the
court's staff and the District attorney's staff, or the family
members of any council or staff member, if those statements
are made with the intent to materially interfere with counselor
(04:55):
staff's work on the case. It also encompasses jurors. Now
the gag order has to come off. Is what Trump
previously told reporters outside the Manhattan courthouse, saying, quote, people
are allowed to speak about me, and I have a
gag order. Just to show you how much more unfair
it is. He's right, by the way, because the star witness,
(05:19):
Michael Cohen, has the ability to go on any TV show, anywhere,
any interviews and rip the president.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
And he is the quote main the most.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Important witness in this trial. So that guy can hammer Trump,
and Trump can't respond while he's running for president.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Give me a break.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Quote Trump said, they can say anything they want. Trump
said about all.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
His political foes.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
They can continue to make up lies and everything else,
and they lie. They're real scum. But you know what,
I'm not allowed to speak. So why am I gagged
about telling the truth? Trump then asked, I'm only telling
the truth. They're not telling the truth. In fact, here's
a little bit more about what Donald Trump had to
say outside of the courtroom earlier today.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
The whole thing is a hoax, All of overre hoaxes,
including the civil cases. They're controlled by the White House.
They're controlled by Democrat judges and prosecutes that will put
this specifically, they ate Trump and the people getting it.
That's why we just came out of New Emerson. Ball
just was released about two minutes ago, and I'm leading
by a lot in every swing state and leading in
(06:30):
the general election. And you saw the CNN call. I'm
sure they aren't too happy with it, but the CNN
poll was fantastic.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
So we're here.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
This is a hoax. This is a judges conflicted, badly, badly,
badly conflicted. I've never seen the judge helf conflicted and
giving us virtually no rulings. I'm not even allowed to
say advice and counsel. This is a new one to me.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
Advice of counsel.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
And you have a lawyer and the lawyer does something
or advises you in something, you say advice and counsel.
He said, you're not allowed to say that, and so
you'll all figure it out. But I think the public
has figured it out because the poll numbers are the highest.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
They've ever been.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
The President making it clear this is a hoax.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
I think the public has figured it out because the
poll numbers are the highest they've ever been. And by
the way, I do think people are figuring out that
this is a hoax. But Democrats understand that if Trump
can't talk, then they can change the narrative, and that
is exactly what they are trying to do. I also
believe that the president's poll numbers have changed because the
(07:39):
American people.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Have no faith in Joe Biden.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
They have no faith in what he's doing with our economy,
and they understand just how bad things actually are. Now,
let's go back real quick to Alvin Bragg, Who's the
guy who basically the Trump called his bluff saying, all right,
you want to put me in jail, put me in jail.
Bragg is a guy that ran off of going after
Donald Trump. Bragg is a guy that apparently has raised
(08:06):
at least eight hundred thousand dollars off of indicting Donald Trump.
And Bragg is the guy that charged Trump with thirty
four felonies in the criminal case concerning alleged election interference,
and a legal retainer paid to Michael Cohen, who can
say whatever he wants. The trial is the first ever
(08:28):
ever criminal trial of a president of the United States,
and yes, Donald Trump could face serious jail time if
in fact he is convicted.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Now, let me also tell you what.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
The American people think about this. A majority now of
Americans doubt that Trump's criminal trial will conclude with a
fair outcome. A new CNN poll that came out on
Friday found this increasing numbers of Americans see the criminal
trial of Trump as quote irrelevant to his fitness for reelection.
(09:02):
The CNM pull further found that while only thirteen percent
believe Trump is being treated the same as other criminal defendants,
only about one third of American adults believe Trump did
anything Let me say that again, only about one third
of American adults believe Trump did anything illegal regarding the case.
So that means even Democrats are now admitting, hey, we
(09:26):
know this is crap, and we know we're trying to
have him put in jail and shut him.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Up, and we understand what's going on here. Now.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
I also want to play for you something that Peter
Sweitzer said on his podcast. Peter Switzer said something interesting
about Joe Biden's sinister but brilliant campaign strategy that is
in fact law fair, meaning you go after your political opponents,
you tie them up, maybe you put them in jail
(09:54):
during the campaign, which is exactly what we're witnessing right now.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Take a listen.
Speaker 5 (09:59):
So some very very interesting comments that Joe Biden made.
Of course, the White House corresponds dinner. You're trying to
be funny, you're trying to be humorous, but it often
offers an insider a glimpse into what people are really thinking.
We think that's the case with Joe Biden, because he
had some very interesting things to say about the legal
(10:19):
threats that Donald Trump is under. Right now, let's listen
to Joe Biden.
Speaker 6 (10:25):
I had a great stretch since the State of the Union. Well,
Donald's had a few tough days lately, you might call
it stormy weather. What the hell Trump's so desperate. He
started reading those Bibles he's selling. Then he got to
(10:47):
the first commandment, you shall have no other gods before me.
That's when he put it down and said, this book's
not for me.
Speaker 5 (10:57):
So attempted humor there, I mean, got some chuckles course
from the media, but there was that little twist about
the tough days and a little twist about the legal
threat that Donald Trump is under. And we're going to
talk about that today because our contention is and I
think the evidence is pretty clear, is that campaigns are
(11:17):
now changing dramatically because what you are seeing is law
fare in action. Used to be in the old days,
you ran for president, you needed a polster, you needed
political consultants. It seems like now, beginning in the year
of Donald Trump, you also need to hire a bunch
of lawyers because the Biden administration has clearly come for
Donald Trump. And we're going to lay out today the
(11:37):
timeline of how that's actually happened.
Speaker 7 (11:39):
It's interesting to think about this morphine to your point
of things that used to be done by the campaign,
the Biden administration is now asking the federal government to perform.
We did a podcast several weeks ago where we said
that every agency within the federal government is now being
weaponized as a political turnout the vote vote operation, and
(12:01):
that is a thing that used to be the job
of a campaign, but now it's the Department of Education
is saying, hey, you will give you pel grants, but
you need to be out registering people to vote. And
they're targeting voting populations that would disproportionately vote for a
Democratic candidate, which happens to be the same president. That's problematic.
It's a departure from how things have done before. And
we've talked about it, and you're now seeing the exact
same thing happen. To your point, with the Department of Justice,
(12:25):
you have aspects of the federal government essentially operating as
another arm of the Biden campaign.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
And it's got to think very troubling.
Speaker 7 (12:35):
It projects in a very troubling way moving forward, because
if this is how it's going to be, and everyone's
kind of okay with because Donald Trump, what happens if
it's not Donald Trump, or if it's Donald Trump in charge?
Speaker 5 (12:44):
Yeah, I mean, in other words, you're saying you can
take the criminal justice system and you can weaponize it.
And this is a strategy known as lawfair, and it
started in the early two thousands. It's really interesting if
you see how this transition has taken place. It started
in the early two thousand. Lawfair was this new idea,
we are going to use the legal system of the
United States and the international legal system to go after
(13:06):
bad guys like terrorists, like Saddam Hussein, like the Russian government,
and we are going to weaponize the legal system to
try to seize their assets, to tie them up in court.
What's happened, our contention is going to be is it
has now been turned on domestic political opponents that the
Biden administration has said, Hey, it worked kind of well
(13:26):
against al Qaeda, it worked pretty well against Saddam Hussein,
it worked pretty well against Vladimir Putin.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Tie them up.
Speaker 5 (13:33):
We're maybe going to apply this domestically in the United
States against Donald Trump. But I think there's pretty ample
evidence that there is coordination and cooperation between the Biden
administration and these prosecutions that appear to be quote unquote
randomly occurring around the country.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Well, let's just dive into a little bit of this.
And I played Peter. I like Peter a lot. Peter
is one hell of an author. He writes some really
good books about the bio crime family. His point here
that he's making, I think is spot on. And what
he's saying is you have a government that would weaponize
(14:13):
the deep state to go after al Qaeda, and it
works so well that they're like, all right, maybe we
should just do the same exact thing against our political opponent.
The opponent has moved from Osama bin.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Laden right too.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Now it's like, all right, well, I mean let's make
it Donald Trump. It works really well. That's our biggest opponent.
That's who we hate. That's who we want to go after,
So let's go after them. The Government, by the Way,
Accountability Institute constructed a timeline of events, which is really important.
(14:49):
It actually shows the extent of the White House's involvement
and these supposedly independent prosecutions.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
It's really clear.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Now that Biden has weaponized the federal agencies for democratic
voter turnout efforts, that he's used taxpayer dollars on a
political persecution that is a blatant effort to attack and
hobble to hamstring to cut the knees out from his
political opponent.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
You'll look at Fanny Willis, for example.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
The Fulton County prosecutor that was prosecuting Trump and Georgia
on election interference charges. She even showed up at the
White House correspondence to her last week. She corruptly hired
her boyfriend Nathan Wade, at a cost of more than
six hundred and twenty five thousand dollars to handle the
daily work of that case, and he had never once.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Prosecuted a case like this.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
We know that Wade made not one but two trips
of White House and may have twenty twenty two and
again in November of the same year for meetings and
not with the Department of Justice officials, but with staff
at the White House Council's office. Wade was later forced,
as you noticed, stepped down from that job by a
judge because of the corruption. Then you look at April
twenty twenty two, the Biden White House leaked a story
(16:04):
on purpose to The New York Times showing Biden confided
in his inner circle it's frustration with the Attorney General
Merrick Garland for not throwing the book at Trump. Four
months later, Trump's Marlago residence was rated by the FBI
at Garland's direction. What's even more interesting is another incident
(16:26):
happened in December of twenty twenty two, when the number
three person at the Department of Justice in Washington, d C.
Announced he was leaving the GoJ to take a job
with the Manhattan DA's office.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Number three.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Okay, you're the third guy, You're the third top dude
of the Department of Justice in DC, and then you
announce I'm going to leave the DOJ. I'm gonna take
a job in the Manhattan DA's office. Are you kidding me?
While the Manhattan Day's Office does matter, This was a
massive step down, Witzer said, for them, especially for the
third highest ranking DOJ official. Why make the move other
(17:07):
than that Joe Biden wanted direct input into the New
York prosecution. And then two other members of the New
York prosecutor's team were involved in the Trump organization's previous
course court case for conspiracy, criminal tax fraud, and falsifying
business records that was also reported on.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
By The Times.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Now, when you look at these three different people that
went to the Manhattan's DA's office, and one of them
is the third highest Department of Justice official, just understand
that one of these three would later deliver the prosecution's
opening statement and the Trump trial in Manhattan. And what
Peter Schweitzer says this, this has all of the markings
(17:52):
they quote, fingerprints to the White House all over it.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
The combined weight of all.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
These prosecutions, particularly the New York came order preventing Trump
from leaving the state while the case is ongoing.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
So a lot of people don't even realize that.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
And you need to understand that Donald Trump can't leave
New York while this case is going on.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
That is a order from the court. What does that
mean that means in one of.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
The most least likely states for Donald Trump to win, right,
that's New York. He is stuck there until this thing
is over and can't go out and actually run his
presidential campaign. That is the definition of election interference.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
That is what this is.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
It is the definition of election interference. All Right, You're
stuck in a state when there's a bunch of other
states you need to be going to when you're running
for president. It also gives your opponent, Joe Biden, the
ability to in essence run unopposed in these other states
as well, giving him another advantage.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
And what Schweizer says to this quote constitutes.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
A direct hobbling of Trump's ability to campaign for president
and gain vast amounts of earned media with as well
attended rallies across the country. This is a sinister but
brilliant strategy, as Sweitzer noted, because even if Trump were
to win all of the cases, it still forces him
to spend tens of millions of dollars to fight them
(19:17):
all and it gets them stuck in court.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
So what does that mean.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
This is a classic aim of law fare, and it's
being done with taxpayers dollars, right, All of this is
costing you money. Every bit of this is costing you money.
The Biden administration is using federal agencies all right. On
top of that, the stoke voter turnout among targeted Democratic voters.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
We know that.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
So if you look at what's going on now with
your dollars and with your government, this is it. Whether
it's the insanity on these college campuses being funded by
the left, whether it's going after the president of United
States of America, former President, I should say, Donald Trump,
they're using your tax dours to go after him, to
prosecute him, to attack him.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
I am telling you this better backfire.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
We better hunker down, and we better remind people that
this is exactly what this judge has been directed to do.
I would argue from the Biden administration, with all of
these prosecutors taking massive emotions to come there and to
go after Trump, because there will be a payday for
them down the road. There will be a hey, well done,
(20:29):
you good soldier. Come back to DC and I'm giving
you a bigger job. That is what is going to
happen with all of this. And again it is Donald Trump.
Donald Trump is the only one in all of this
that can't talk. The key witness can talk, can do
as many interviews as he wants to. We know that,
and it is incredibly frustrating to witness this happen. Right now.
(20:54):
I want you to hear what Mike Davis had to say.
This was on He's the founder and president of the
Article three project, and this is what he had to
say about the president's gag order and what it means.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
This is Biden driven election interference and lawfare, and there's
going to there are going to be severe legal, political,
and financial consequences.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
And it includes not only the people.
Speaker 4 (21:16):
In the governments in the Biden Justice Department, Fulton County
DA's office, Big Tish's office in New York, the Age,
Alvin Bragg's office in Manhattan, that dumb prosecutor out in Arizona,
the Arizona Age, whoever that new woman is out there
who stole the election from Aid by disenfranchising voters on
election date. It's also going to include these washed up
(21:40):
lawyers and judges on the outside are colluding with these
government officials like Andrew Weisman and many others to run
this lawfair. This is a criminal conspiracy, guys, lawyer up.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
It's a criminal conspiracy. I can't disagree with what he's
saying there, I really can't. I think it's actually incredibly
accurate what he is saying, because this is all a
conspiracy to handcuff Donald Trump from the very beginning. It's
(22:13):
what Trump said earlier about this, right, he said, this
is a hoax. And I think the public has figured out.
I hope they have. I really, really, really really.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Do something else.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
By the way I want you to hear is how
MSNBC and even the Washington Post columnist Jamison what they
had to say about Michael Cohen. Michael Cohen can go
out there say what everyone's say, do whatever he wants
to do.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
He's a star witness, right He's a.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Convicted a guy that's convicted of lying, and the entire
case revolves around him. Listen to what MSNBC had to
say about him. It's very interesting.
Speaker 8 (22:49):
Donald Trump's former fixer, Michael Cohen has been billed as
a star witness of the hush money trial, but clearly
he's been ignoring rule number one. Save your best stuff
for the stand and don't play into the defense's best
arguments against you. For example, he promised on X on
April twenty fourth that he will cease posting about Trump
(23:10):
on x or on his podcast, something clearly prosecutors would
like him to stop doing. But apparently that did not
include his TikTok Live because here he was last night
when I put out.
Speaker 9 (23:23):
That tweet that turned around and said that I was
not going to discuss anything to do with the trial
or my former Employloyer or anything like that.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
And I think I've lived up to that.
Speaker 9 (23:39):
The Maga, the mega morons, hook line and Sinker.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
If mild Trump told.
Speaker 9 (23:45):
Them one plus one equals three, they will fight you, too,
thin nail.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
That's the crazy thing, too, right. Those hats are hideous.
Oh my god, No, no, no, And I'm not saying it.
Speaker 9 (23:57):
Other people it was like, oh my god, everything about Hey, that's.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
That's not true.
Speaker 9 (24:02):
It's not true.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
It's not true at all. I am just saying.
Speaker 9 (24:06):
That they are not the kind of hats that you.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Wear to I don't even know what. I don't even
know how to describe them.
Speaker 9 (24:13):
They're with the with the with the string that goes
across the top of it.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
I mean, it's just it's it's an ugly hat.
Speaker 9 (24:23):
It has the string, a hat as his red as
his red gold sneakers are. I mean, you know, the
sneakers are ugly too.
Speaker 8 (24:33):
I want to bring in Washington Post staff writer Peter Jamison,
who just wrote an extensive piece on Cohen and Jeremysland is.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Back with us.
Speaker 8 (24:41):
I'm going to start with you, Peter, because you did
such a deep dive. So here's a guy who says,
I'm not going to talk about this on X I'm
not going to talk about Donald Trump on my podcast,
and yet to raise money and if people are not
familiar with that live version of TikTok, people can post
emojis and he makes money off of it. So that's
(25:01):
what all that stuff is that's popping up. But is
this kind of classic Michael Cohen.
Speaker 10 (25:08):
I mean, look, Michael Cohen is making a strong case
for himself being the most irrepressibly voluble star witness in
history at this point. I mean, he's you know, he's
written two memoirs on his experiences with former President Donald Trump.
He's hosted a very popular podcast actually has had a
number of celebrities on to both you know, talk about
(25:31):
his personal journey working for Trump and then turning against him,
and also his broader thoughts on Trump and the political
movement he leads. And I think this is the sense
classic Michael Cohen. I mean, he's been very chatty in
a way that I'm sure has given prosecutors a magic
at various moments about the things that he you know,
(25:52):
directly or indirectly, the things he will be addressing when
he takes the stand.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
In this trial.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
You listen to the way that he just him this
guy's out there making money because of this court case.
He's getting to do and say whatever he wants, and
no one's telling him to shut up. And he's a
star witness that's gonna have to testify against Donald Trump,
like he's the star witness. If you need any more
(26:20):
examples than that of just how much of a witch
hunt this is, I'm sorry, you're a special kind of
stupid if you still don't see it. You look at
all of this and they act like all these cases
are somehow independent, they're not. This is all perfectly orchestrated
by the White House. It is all perfect perfectly orchestrated
(26:43):
by a group of prosecutors who were at the DJ
who then said, all right, we got to get out
of here. We gotta go help make these cases. We
got to go prosecute. We gotta keep him and force
him to stay, right, force.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Him to stay.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
We gotta, we gotta, we gotta re really, really, really
really really force him to stay in New York so
that you can't go out there in campaign. And this
is going to be amazing, it's going to be brilliant.
We're gonna hamstring him, he won't be able to do events,
and then we're gonna maybe even put him in jail.
And the majority of Americans, even Democrats, believe that this
(27:22):
is like total crap.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
But remember, you can believe.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
It's total crap if you're a Democrat and they're still
going to vote against him. That's the whole point here,
that's the whole ballgame. Make sure you share this podcast
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Speaker 2 (27:45):
I'll see you back here tomorrow.
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