Impeachment Doesn't Mean What It Used to In This Country

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Impeachment is a word now that doesn't mean what it
used to mean, at least in this country. The word
impeachment used to actually mean something. Democrats have destroyed it
by the way that they went after Donald Trump with
impeachment now once but twice. Now it's a political play.
It's no longer about are you actually breaking laws or

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undermined the country you're supposed to be protecting and representing.
Impeachment has now been tainted, and so it is a
idea that when people hear it, they kind of just
rolled their eyes.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
I think they rolled their eyes.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
Because I think they realized how ridiculous it is that
what happened the last time. And look, there were people
that were in favor of the impeachment last time. To
be clear, right, there were people that were completely in
favor of impeachment, and it was because they wanted to
take out Donald Trump politically. They knew Donald Trump wasn't
colluding with the Russians. They knew that that report was

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paid for and created out of thin air by the
Democrat They know that Hillary Clinton was one of the
ones funding the Steele dossier. They knew that the FBI
knew that the Steele dossier was alied. They knew that
they couldn't corroborate that he couldn't corroborate the stories within
the Stele dossier. In fact, the FBI offered him I
think it was over a million dollars to substantiate the

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claims of the dossier, and he couldn't do it. So
that should tell you an awful lot about it as well. Right,
he couldn't even do that. Now, why couldn't he do that?
Why why could he not do that? Because he made
it up. Democrats made it up. They all lied, They
all knew what they were doing. They were lying the

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entire time. The problem now is when people here impeachment,
a lot of people go to their left, they go
to the right, and it turns into a political moment.
They say, Okay, I'm going to my team here. You
guys on the other side, y'all are just abusing power,
y'all are idiots, or you're just trying to take out
your political opponent. That's why I say Republicans have to
be very careful because this could backfire and actually solidify

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support that is wavering for Joe Biden. People are starting
to cover the story of Joe Biden. They are okay,
people are starting to realize and understand it. But if
you turn it into a partisan issue by going through
impeachment too early, then it can backfire on you on
a very, very big way. I'll give you an example

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of why I say this, because I want to be clear.
I'm in favor of impeaching Joe Biden because I think there's
evidence to impeach him. I want to be careful and
win and how and where we do it. Look at
what happens every single time they indict Donald Trump. The
charges are absurd, right, we know that, but they keep
doing it. And why they keep doing it. Democrats believe
that that Donald Trump is the easiest person to beat

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in the general election. So they're going to keep indicting him,
win and wherever they can, regardless of the facts, because
they believe.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
It guarantees him the primary.

Speaker 1 (02:59):
And what happens when they go after Donald Trump, the
base rallies behind him. The exact same thing will happen
if we go for impeaching Hunter Biden or excuse me,
Joe Biden over Hunter Biden and Biden corruption. The same
exact thing's going to happen. The same exact thing is
going to happen, and other Republicans have gone on the

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record now as saying that there is a clear plan
to launch an impeachment inquiry into Biden this month, meaning September. Now,
three separate GOP led committees have investigated allegations that Hunter
Biden leveraged his father's official government positions to secure foreign

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business deals. The open question for Republican lawmakers is whether
President Biden ever personally benefited from his son's deals or
abused the power of his office to influence them in
any way. McCarthy said last month impeachment inquiry would only
happen with a formal House vote. McCarthy said at the time,

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quote to open an impeachment inquiry is a serious matter,
and House Republicans would not take it lightly or use
it for political purposes. The American people deserve to be
heard on this matter through their elected representatives, McCarthy said
in an interview with Breitbart. He then went on to

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say that's why if we move forward with an impeachment inquiry,
it would occur through a vote on the four of
the House and not through a declaration by one person.
That means, in translation, that two hundred and eighteen lawmakers
will need to support an impeachment inquiry against Biden, and

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it is not at all certain House Republicans have the
votes to do it. Several GOP lawmakers, including Representative Ken Buck,
a Republican from Colorado, and Representative Don Bacon, a Republican
from Nebraska, have both voiced skepticism about impeachment. Even Somehow's

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conservatives who support impeachment have complained about the timing. Representative
Dan bishop As, a Republican from North Carolina, said to
Fox News last week that it appeared McCarthy was quote
dangling the issue to avoid a confrontation over spending ahead
of the next deadline to fund the government. Now, the

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House Freedom Caucus and other conservative groups have urged McCarthy
to force a deeper spending cut, deeper spending cuts in general,
and to attach GOP priorities to any short term or
long term spending deal that would keep the government open
that's unlikely by the way, to get through the Senate

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or the White House and to get a signature for approval.
They view the last debt limit deal as a betrayal
because it did not significantly curtail government spending. This is
part of how why it was so hard for Ken
McCarthy to get the Speaker's job, because many Republicans said

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he wasn't doing enough to stop out of control government spending.
Representative Chip Roy, a friend of mine from Texas, warn
GOP leaders earlier this month this hiding quote behind impeachment
to screw America with status quo massive funding will not
end well. In other words, he's saying, don't try to

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show me a nice shiny object in this hand while
you're screwing me in the other hand.

Speaker 2 (06:39):
And look at what Chip Roy.

Speaker 1 (06:41):
By the way, he has a lot of people in
the Freedom Caucus and a lot of conservatives around him.
Look at the words he chose. He wasn't messing around.
I'm gonna read it again, hiding behind impeachment to screw
America with status quo massive funding will not end well.
In other words, if you think you can give us
impeach will shut up on government spending, your wrong. If

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you think you can trade out of control government spending
for an impeachment inquiry or a vote on impeachment, you're wrong.
Now there's a narrow house majority, Republicans can only afford
to lose five votes from their conference in an impeachment
inquiry vote. To be clear, I would already say that
they've lost three, possibly four, just based on the quotes

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that I gave you a moment ago from Republicans who
are on the record, and those Republicans that I mentioned
are from states where impeachment probably won't play well with
the voters.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
Colorado is a great example. It's a more liberal state.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
At the same time as all this is going on,
impeachment hardliners right like Representative Matt Gates have also threatened
to attempt to remove Kevin McCarthy if the House does
not follow three with impeachment vote, something he says he
will pay off on the Speaker of the House. Kevin

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McCarthy's office has not responded to requests for comment. Why
because they clearly wanted to leak this out and see
how it was going to play out after.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
They leaked it.

Speaker 1 (08:10):
That's what they're clearly trying to do, which makes sense. Actually,
now Republicans have to be careful here that they don't
screw this up, because the American people right now seem
to be coming around to the idea in the polls
that the President is clearly corrupt and compromised. If you

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move too soon towards impeachment, you can screw the whole
thing up. You can screw it up big time. If
you go too quickly, you can screw all of this up.
I want you to hear what was said by David Brooks.
He was on PBS News Hour. David Brook's not a

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hardcore conservative, but he had this to say about the
Hunter Biden story and that Hunter was selling influence and
influence pedaling on his dad's name. He even said, as
a liberal on PBS quote, I underestimated the Hunter's story.

Speaker 3 (09:12):
This week, though, we learned federal prosecutors will be moving
ahead with an indictment against Hunter Biden, was likely related
to gun charges expected by the end of the month. David,
as you well know, those questions around Hunter Biden continue
to fuel Republicans' threats to impeach President Biden. Is this
becoming a liability for the president?

Speaker 4 (09:34):
Well, it's certainly a liability, you know, it sort of
feeds into the narrative. He's part of the Washington establishment.
Everybody's self dealing, so that's a liability. The gun charge,
you know, he was a sick man Frankly who had
some drug issues, and the gun charge to me is
an ancillary issue. To me. I want to know he
was clearly trying to pedal influence. Did he successfully pedal influence?

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Was any any law change that Joe Biden's policies changed
to Joe Biden said any of those meetings. I kind
of doubt it on all counts, But I do think
now I've sort of underestimated the Hunter Biden story. I
think it's probably worth a look to see if there
was actual influence peddling. But for the Republicans talk about impeachment,
you gotta have a crime, like you got to have

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some accusation you can make, and they don't really have
anything right now. It's worth looking into, but they're way
premature and talking about impeachment.

Speaker 3 (10:23):
Jonathan, What do you make of that? Is Is it
worth a look by both the Department of Justice and
House Republicans as they say they want to do.

Speaker 5 (10:32):
Well, It's worth a look by the Department of Justice
because they're already looking, and with a special counsel having
already been appointed, there apparently is a reason to look.
But the one thing I want folks to remember and
to always remember, and that is the legal predicament surrounding
Hunter Biden, the son of the president. It is nowhere

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near and it is not the same as what is
facing the former president twice impeached, four times, indicted on
ninety one counts in four different jurisdictions. I mean, they're Republicans,
especially congressional Republicans, have been spending a lot of time
trying to focus attention on Hunter Biden and the quote

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unquote weaponization of the Justice Department because of what is
happening to Donald Trump.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
By the way, I wanted you to hear the response
there because you need to understand what Democrats are gonna do.
You hear this shocking moment from Brooks of honesty. I
underestimated the Hunter Biden's story. Hunter was trying to pedal
influence and then immediately they go back to well, but
it's nothing compared to what Donald Trump did. You heard

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it right there, attack dog, get on there, bring it
go all in, yell, scream, rant, rave, talk about you
don't understand how bad it is for the bid for
the Trumps. This is nothing compared to what you guys
are looking at. This is nothing compared to what's going
on right now with Donald J.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
Trump. That's their argument.

Speaker 1 (12:02):
That's their response, Well, you think we're bad, you've got indictments.

Speaker 2 (12:05):
We don't.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
I will say this a different way. Republicans have to
be very careful that if we do this, we do
it the right way, because the media is going to
turn on it quickly. The media is going to turn
on this thing so freaking fast, and they're going to
turn this into a partisan issue so quick. And if
we are just now getting people around the idea that

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there's corruption, the American people, I don't think are to
the point of impeachment yet. They're just now finding out
about the basics of this, folks, And we have to
be very careful that we don't give them a gift
by this becoming a partisan issue, so then they don't
have to listen and understand just how corrupt the Biden

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crime family actually is. That is my concern, and I
think you can understand why, because what's the point of
doing this if we're not going to make it effective
and if it backfires on us, what's the point of
doing it?

Speaker 2 (13:09):
Now?

Speaker 1 (13:09):
There's also other issues at play here that we should
talk about and we should use to our advantage.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
We'll give you an example.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
On nine to eleven, it was leaked President Joe Biden
has now bowed down to Iran and we are going
to pay them six billion dollars for five Americans in
exchange for five Iranian prisoners. Then, on top of that,
the President and the White House are now claiming that

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the six billion dollars for five Americans in exchange for
five Iranian prisoners. So we're we're not just giving them
a prisoner shop here, We're giving them six billion dollars.
The White House claims, Oh, don't worry. The money will
only be used to purchase humanitarian goods, So you don't
have to worry if you believe that you're an idiot.

Speaker 2 (13:56):
This is Iran.

Speaker 1 (13:57):
Iran killed more American soldiers, was responsible for killing more
American soldiers than any other country when we were in
Afghanistan Iraq. How do I know that Because they were
the ones that were giving safe harbor to terrorists and
save passage of terrorists that were coming in to kill us.
They were also the number one maker of the roadside
bombs that were blowing up American soldiers. They are a

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state sponsor of terrorism. And when America got to Afghanistan.
When America got to Iraq, Iran went full force into
war to kill American soldiers. And now the Biden administration
has reproved a deal with Iran to pay the rogue
regimes six billion in exchange for five detained American citizens.

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The deal, according to the Associated Press, entailed the Biden
administration issuing a blanket waiver for international banks to transfer
six billion in frozen Iranian money from South Korea to
Qatar without US sanctions. He would then be held in
Guitar Central Bank for RAND to use, reportedly for the

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purchase of humanitarian goods.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
That's a joke.

Speaker 1 (15:07):
In addition, the Biden administration agreed to release five Iranian
cistens held in the US. So not only we give
them six billion, we're giving them five Iranian ciszens. I'm
assuming you're involved in some sort of terrorism. I'm having
more on that story coming up in a moment. Why

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would you do that, by the way, on nine to eleven,
I mean, if there's anything that they would teach you
in politics one oh one, it's like, Hey, if you're
going to release some terrorists, don't do it on the
anniversary of nine to eleven, especially when it's like Iran,
and yet here we are having this conversation where the
President is going to transfer six million, six billion dollars.

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According to the Associated Press, the Secretary of State Anthony
Blincoln signed off on the deal late last week, but
Congress was not known of the deal until Monday, which
was nine eleven, the twenty second anniversary of the US
suffering terrorist attacks by Islamic fundamentalists. And that's the day
we tell them. Oh, by the way, we're sending six
billion dollars to Iran, who was killing American soldiers. The

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deal appears to go against the US policy by the way,
of not paying countries to release American prisoners. Right, this
is ransom money so as not to incentivize the behavior
of capturing Americans. According to report, the transfer of the
six billion was the critical element in the prisoner swap deal.
The six billion. So we're giving them humans, and we're

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giving them six billion, more than a billion a person.
Some European nations reportedly balked at participating in the transfer.
By the way, but don't worry, then, Joe Biden, the
big guy and his administration's blanket waiver was aimed at
easing their concerns. The AP notes this morning. The waiver

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is likely to draw criticism a President Joe Biden from
Republicans and others that the deal will boost the Iranian
economy at a time when Iran poses a growing threat
to US troops and Mid East allies. It's also a
part here where it's just in competency, and the amount

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of incompetency here makes me angry. There is no way, okay,
at all, there's no way that you can guarantee that
the six billion dollars is going to be used for
humanitarian reasons. Like that's not possible, okay, Like that's not

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something that's possible. Iran can funnel the six billion out
of Katar and claim it's for humanitarian things. They can
do that, but I promise you this, they're going to
use it for whatever the hell they want to. The
other part of this is when was the last time

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Iran was known for doing anything in a humanitarian fashion?

Speaker 2 (18:11):
Did? Did?

Speaker 1 (18:11):
And again, this is a question that would have been
asked the meeting, But of course they they're not asking
that question because they already know they they already know
that that's not going to happen. So it's it's it's
part of the lie, right because if you were having
a normal administration meeting, someone has been like, hey, when
was the last time that Iran ever did anything on

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a on a humanitarian basis? Like when when did that?
When did that happen? And the answer to you, they don't, right, like, like,
that's not what they do. That's not how any of
this works. It's not how this that's not how they
do any of this. So instead, we're giving six billion

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to a terrorist organization that's going to use six billion
to kill people, claiming the money is going to be
used for humanitarian reasons, while also giving up these five
different Iranians that we have in our custody in the
United States America. I'm still trying to find out more
about these Iranians. We don't know anything about them yet
because the White House seems to be keeping that very quiet. Now,

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if you just do a quick step back on the
anniversary nine to eleven, let's be clear. Now you have
a president that bowed to Iran on nine to eleven.
You have a president that paid six billion to and
gave up five Iranian prisoners in an exchange for five
Americans with a country that clearly is a rogue nation
that sponsors terrorism, has killed American soldiers. They Iran is

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responsible for more limbs lost on Americans in Iraq and
Afghanian than any other country because of their bombs that
they that they allowed to be made in their country
and they gave to the terrorists. They gave save Hayesan
to Isis and al Qaida. And then you combine with
Biden breaking a twenty two year tradition. He spent nine
to eleven not at White House or the site of

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this attack. Right, they said it's just time to move on.
That was their logic here. Yeah, President Biden was taking
fire from some families of nine to eleven victims for
being the first president twenty two years to not spend
nine to eleven in an attack site or at the
White House. According to the new report, the family slammed
Biden for spending nine to eleven in quote Alaska, but

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just part of the day where he is following up
on a trip to India and Vietnam discussed climate change.
He then tacked on Alaska, claiming he was doing something there. Now,
Biden did do one thing. He visited the memorial of
his friend, the late Senner John McCain and Vietnam. On Monday,

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he kissed the memorial, telling reporters traveling with him that
it was important that he visited the site, as McCain
was a quote good friend.

Speaker 2 (21:01):
That, by the way, is not connected to nine to eleven.

Speaker 1 (21:04):
But I guess they thought, oh, that's good enough, right,
we'll check that box so that you can't criticize him.
One of the victims said, if our leader is so
willing to not show up to the memorial service, it's
showing the message that Americans have forgotten and then it's
okay to forget. Unfortunately, for myself and for all other
families and those joining with us this morning, we have

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no way of forgetting. This is something that forever changed
our lives, and this is something that we're going to
live with forever, even if the rest of the country
can let this be a day they do forget. White
House Press Secretary Jean Pierre said at a press conference
three days ago about nine to eleven. She said, quote
on nine to eleven, Look, the President is going to

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mark the anniversary of September the eleventh, the Texas Year
in Alaska as you just mentioned with service members and
their families, and as he does every year, as he's
done this every year, he plans to honor the lives
lost in the families and loved ones who will fill
the pain of the terrible day. This is something he
feels is very important to do. We can only imagine

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the heartbreak and the pain that the nine eleven families
have felt every day for the past twenty two years.
John Pierre concluded, saying this, So I know the families
have have certainly been on this on the mind recently
in recent days, and they will continue to be to
be on the mind as we approach the anniversary, as
you know, is coming up Monday. In other words, asker,

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you guys, here's your lip service. We're too busy working
a deal with a Ran right now now. So far
we have not been able to figure out exactly what
the deal is. We don't know, okay, we don't know
what the deal is and who these Iranians are that
we're giving back. And the reason why we don't know

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is because I'm sure they don't want us to know
who it is. They're terrified of who these Iranians are
and that it's going to get out before we hurry
up and do the deal and move on. But telling
Congress on the anniversary nine to eleven, God help us,
and I mean that sincerely when I say that God

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help us. This is a president of the United States of America,
and I would argue this deal with Iran is nothing
more than just being compromised. This is straight up a
president that I think is compromised in a way that
people can't even imagine. There's no logical reason to do
this deal. There's no logical reason to give six billion

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dollars to a terrorist organization because Iran is a terrorist organization.
You can't tell me they're not. The facts back it up.
The facts clearly show that they are a terrorist organization,
and we're going to do that on the anniversary of
nine to eleven. So let me go back to what
I was saying a moment ago about impeachment. The American

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people seem to be turning on Joe Biden on their own.
We have to be careful that we don't stop that
momentum by pushing for impeachment, which we do not have
the votes for, by the way, in the Senate. That's
something that we need to really talk about we need
to be very strategic about when we start this impeachment

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inquiry because it will galvanize the left and there will
be people that are not actually right now standing and
supporting Joe Biden that will then immediately go and stand
and support Joe Biden. That's part of what people need
to understand. I worry that if we move this too quickly,

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if we go too fast, that we're going to get
ourselves in a situation where this will be one of
the biggest backfires we've ever seen, and that this will
galvanize the left. It will make them stand up for
Joe Biden. It will make them say to Joe o'biden, hey,
we're going to We're going to really defend you because

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these Republicans instead of us listening to the crimes that
the Biden crime family has committed. I also understand the
votes and if we don't have the votes, and the
other question is this worth it to do this now?
While the presence prover ratings are an all time low,
this story is starting to finally.

Speaker 2 (25:25):
Get to people.

Speaker 1 (25:27):
You look at the CNN poll that came out. I'll
go back to what CNN said on their own TV
about this. Here's how they put it. The majority believe
Biden putting thumb on the scale of the Hunter probe.

Speaker 6 (25:38):
And when you look here about President Biden now serving
as president, his actions in the Hunter Biden probe have
they been appropriate or not? Fifty five percent of Americans,
a majority, believe Biden's actions related to the Hunter Biden
probe inappropriate. Twenty four percent of Democrats again, a majority
of Independence fifty two percent, and nearly all Republicans at

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nine percent believe that. And this is to show what
happens when you don't push back at all, which is
really basically what the White House has been doing. There's
not been a Hunter Biden defense kind of mounted in
a public relations way, and it's starting to seep through
beyond just the right wing echo chamber.

Speaker 1 (26:17):
We're seeing it's starting to seep through. Well, if you
start impeachment, what do you think is going to happen?
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