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Arrests and Charges:
- Former Donya Anna County Magistrate Judge Joel Kano and his wife were arrested for harboring a gang member and tampering with evidence. The gang member had incriminating photos on his cell phone, which the judge destroyed
- Judge Hannah Dugan from Milwaukee was arrested for obstructing an immigration arrest operation
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Gang Activity:
- The gang member harbored by Judge Kano had photos of decapitated victims on his cell phone
- The judge and his wife provided the gang member with assault rifles
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Judicial Misconduct:
- Judges are accused of obstructing justice and aiding criminals, with specific examples of judges helping gang members and illegal immigrants evade law enforcement
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Political Commentary:
- The discussion includes criticism of Democratic officials and judges for allegedly defying federal law enforcement and supporting illegal activities
- Former President Trump is praised for his immigration policies and efforts to secure the border
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Government Waste and Fraud:
- Elon Musk and the Department of Government Oversight (DOGE) uncover significant waste and fraud in government agencies, including the Institute of Peace spending money on private jets and paying a former Taliban member
- The Department of Education misused a COVID fund for extravagant expenses like renting Caesar's Palace
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
It is Verdict with Center Ted Cruz week in Review,
Ben Ferguson with you, and here are the big stories
that you may have missed that we talked about this week.
First up, a New Mexico judge now behind bars for
housing an illegal gang member and the AG is not
backing down on activist judges either. I'll have that for
you in just a second. Also, Donald Trump ross ABC
(00:25):
News in a one hundred day interview in the Oval
office and what he had to say, it went viral,
and we'll play it for you as well. And finally,
DOGE and the Institute for Peace, well they're exposing they
weren't actually very peaceful. Is they were giving money to
former terrorist members. It's the weekend review and it starts
right now. So when you combine this and this these
(00:49):
types of arrests, there is no inclination here that this
is preemptively a idea or a mindset by the DOJ
or anybody else. This is reactionary to these activist judges,
and that's something that the media is also distorting.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Well it is, and I will say, look, there's another
story out of New Mexico, which is former Donya Anna
County Magistrate Judge Joel Kano sixty seven his wife, Nancy
Conos sixty eight are in custody right now. They were
arrested by Homeland Security at their La Cruze Las Cruces home.
(01:29):
They were arrested for harboring a gang member, a trender
Aragua gang member in their home. And this trend to
Iragua gang member. He's covered in gang tattoos, tattoos, and
the judge faces charges of tampering with evidence. Now you
(01:51):
know what he did? What was that he took this
Venezuelan gang member's cell phone, smashed it with a hammer
because it had incriminating evidence of the gang member with firearms.
And then he went and disposed of of the of
the cell phone. So who's trying to hide evidence? Now?
(02:12):
Do you know one of the pictures that was on
the cell phone allegedly that the judge destroyed with a hammer.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
I'm gonna guess it's probably one of those good old
gang sign pictures, right, because that's always what the gang
members have on their phone.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Now it's worse than that. It's a picture of two
victims who are decapitated. We're not talking nice, fuzzy friendly
gang members. We're not talking as the media loves to
call call the illegal immigrant up in Maryland a quote
Maryland band. This is a gang member who allegedly had
(02:47):
pictures of two people with their heads cut off on
the cell phone. And what does a Democrat judge do
in New Mexico, Well, you got a gang member. He says, Hey,
let me hide you in my house and here give
me that phone because they could use that to prosecute you.
I'm going to smash it with a hammer and dispose
of it so they don't have the evidence to convict you.
(03:07):
That is bizarre, and that is a Democrat judge.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
The Attorney General, by the way, she came out strong
and said we're not backing down when we see this
type of activism. Here's part of what she had to
say on Fox.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
And to set the stage for you and Sandra, this
was truly horrific. This guy was in court being prosecuted
by a state prosecutor for domestic violence battery. He had
beat up two people, a guy and a girl. Beat
the guy, hit guy thirty times, knocked him to the ground,
choked him, beat up a woman so badly they both
(03:44):
had to go to the hospital. And John. You know,
it's so rare for victims to want to cooperate. They
wanted to cooperate. They were sitting in the courtroom with
the state prosecutor. The judge learns that Ice was outside
to get the guy because he had been deported in
twenty thirteen, came back in our country, commits these crimes,
charged with committing these crimes, victims in court. Judge finds out.
(04:05):
She goes out in the hallway, screams at the immigration officers.
She's furious, visibly shaken, upset, sends them off to talk
to the chief judge. She comes back in the courtroom
here going to believe this, takes the defendant and the
defense attorney back in her chambers, takes them out of
private exit and tells them to leave. While a state
prosecutor and victims of domestic violence are sitting in the courtroom.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
You hear her explaining this, and you got to think
the majority of Americans, if they know that story, they're
going to be outraged, just as outrage as she is.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Yeah, no, that's exactly right. And I want to play
a second clip from Pambondi where she's talking about the
new Mexico judge, because this is not a crazy outlier. Unfortunately,
this is a pattern. Listen to the Attorney General talking
about this new Mexico judge harboring a trender Ragua gang
member in his home.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
I mean, when you look at the associations with this
Violet Venezuelan gang Trende Arragua and this person that they
harbored in their home, he was showing signs through clothing,
We're told, tattoos. There was evidence through voice messages and
text messages of his association to TDA. So what charges
(05:20):
will Cano and his wife face if any?
Speaker 3 (05:24):
So, Judge Cano seemed to be former Judge Cano got,
he got. His charges were just unsealed. He's charged with obstruction.
He is charged. He admitted posts Miranda, he took one
of the TDA members cell phones himself, took it, beat
it with a hammer, destroyed it, and then walked to
the pieces to a city dumpster to dispose of it
(05:46):
to protect him. The wife also is charged with destroying evidence, Sandra.
Not only that this TDA member and he had on
a necklace that said kill, something about death. He had
tattoos all over him. He also had on his cell
phone pictures of two decapitated victims, two victims, decapitated, gruesome photos,
(06:10):
and he was sending them out, and whoever he was
sending them to was sending back saying, Hey, you need
to be careful. You shouldn't be sending these You shouldn't
be texting these photos out. Not only that, these two
the judge and his wife gave him assault rifles that
belonged to their daughter. That's what they're charged with in
the criminal report. Effi, David. He goes to a shooting
(06:31):
range with these assault rifles with a suppressor, with other
known TDA members and they're shooting. This is the last
person that we want in our country, nor will we
ever tolerate a judge or anyone else harboring them lit.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
I'm just so glad we have an attorney general. You're
good friends of Pam. We've had her on the show
that is able to articulate this the way that she
is to continue to combat the lies they're being put
out there about who is actually getting arrested, who were targeting,
and who we're trying to get out of the country.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
No, that's exactly right, and it's the simple principle that
no one is above the law. Here's what Cash Betel,
the head of the FBI, to tweet it out. Quote
just now, the FBI arrested Judge Hannah Dugan out of Milwaukee, Wisconsin,
on charges of obstruction after evidence of Judge Dugan obstructing
an immigration arrest operation last week. We believe Judge Dugan
(07:27):
intentionally misdirected federal agents away from the subject to be
arrested in her courthouse Eduardo Flores Ruiz, allowing the subject,
an illegal alien, to evade arrest. Thankfully, our agents chase
down the purp on foot and he's been in custody since.
But the judge's obstruction created increased danger to the public.
We will have more to share soon. Excellent work. And
(07:49):
then the Attorney General Pambondi, she tweeted, I can confirm
that our FBI agents just arrested Hanna Dugan, a county
judge in Milwaukee, for allegedly helping an illegal alien avoid
arrest by ice. No one is above the law. Somehow,
Democrats believe that if they don't like a law, they
can just ignore it. They can defy it, by the way,
(08:11):
Joe Biden and Kamala Harris did that for four years,
they just utterly ignored federal immigration law. And unfortunately this
attitude of lawlessness, we're not bound by the law. Not
only that, we're going to actively fight federal law enforcement.
Who is trying to enforce the law, And what are
they doing this for. I mean, Ben seriously explained to me,
(08:35):
help me get in the head of let's say this,
New Mexico judge, New Mexico Judge, you and your wife say, hey,
we got some gang members from Venezuela. They're covered in tattoos,
They've got a necklace that says kill. They have cell
phones with pictures of people with their heads cut off.
(08:56):
Let's bring them to my house. Like, how explain to
me that thought process. My brain is not nimble enough
to get around this.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
See this is where I think to myself. I'm like,
all right, well, then there's got to be some sort
of incentive that is connecting them. There's got to be
something to gain here personally, because I can't just imagine
this judge is just like, yeah, we genuinely want to
hang out with people that are celebrating or involved in
this type of criminal activity, including as you described it, beheadings.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Yeah, look, you and I watch breaking bad. I don't
know if this is a judge that's on the take,
if there's corruption, if he's been paid by the gang.
I don't know if he's ideological and stupid or corrupt
or what. There's clearly more to this story we will learn,
but the facts on the face of it are astonishing.
(09:48):
And what's amazing, I don't know of a single Democrat
elected official who's denounced this conduct by the judges. Instead,
what they're saying is they're rushing to defend these judges
that are brazenly, brazenly defying the law.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Now, if you want to hear the rest of this conversation,
you can go back and listen to the full podcast
from earlier this week. Now onto story number two.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Here's something else that President Trump said at the rally
where he actually reprised my favorite line from his State
of the Union address this year, where he talked about
how Joe Biden had said just one year earlier that
he the only way to secure the border is if
Congress passed new legislation. Give a listen to what President
Trump said.
Speaker 5 (10:34):
For years, Joe Biden and the media told us that
stopping the flood of illegal immigration was absolutely impossible. He
said it was impossible. He didn't know what the hell
anybody was talking about. He said it was impossible. That
the president had no power to stop what was needed
in the form of legislation. He needed legislation, he had.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
No power to get.
Speaker 5 (11:00):
But it turned out that all we needed was a
new president.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
He's right, all we need was a new president. And
they said that wouldn't even get it done. Well, guess what,
not only did you get it done, but even the
mainstream media now Senator is forced to report on just
how big of a victory this is for Trump at
the border. ABC News they put it this way in
their own interview with the President.
Speaker 6 (11:25):
Here in the Oval office. It's special. One hundred days
into your second term. So what's the one thing, just
one thing that you think is the most significant thing
you've done so far in these hundred days.
Speaker 7 (11:40):
Well, I think maybe the border is the most significant
because our country was.
Speaker 6 (11:44):
Really going bad.
Speaker 7 (11:45):
They were allowing people to come in from prisons, as
you know, and you've heard me say it, but you've
heard a lot of people say it. Prisons, mental institutions,
gang members, murderers, We had many murders, eleven eight hundred
and eighty eight. They think some murdered more than one person.
So yet murderers coming in. You had everybody coming in,
(12:05):
and not just South America, from all over the world
that were emptying their prisons into our country. And now
it's totally closed down. And you've seen just yesterday they
announced ninety nine point nine percent. Nobody thought that could happen.
Then it happened quickly, very quickly, and I think that's
very significant. But we're doing other things that are very significant.
(12:26):
Results will take a little bit longer because it's one
of those you know, it's complicated. It's many years of
trading abuse. We've been abused by other countries for years
and years. They laughed at us, they thought we were
stupid people. And we're fixing it. And I think that's
going to be very very important.
Speaker 6 (12:44):
But I have a lot of ground to cover.
Speaker 7 (12:45):
Yeah, I would really say that that the border is
so important, you know, just we'll get there.
Speaker 6 (12:50):
The immigration is huge, and we're going to get there,
but I want to start.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
You hear him say the southern border is totally closed
down ninety nine point nine percent. I'll be honest, I
don't even think Americans that voted for Donald Trump, that
believed in him, thought he could get this done this
quick with those types of numbers.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
The numbers are staggering. He said, nobody believed we could
get there. I actually think that's wrong. I think Donald
Trump believed he could get there. He knew he could
get there. And I'll tell you, you and I we both
predicted it that we would see the numbers absolutely plummet.
Although it's a fair point, we said absolutely plummet. I
don't think I said ninety nine point nine percent. I
might have thought it'd be ninety percent or ninety five percent,
(13:28):
but ninety nine point nine is. To be honest, Trump
might even be surprised. It's that high. It's staggering, and
and it's an example of a commander in chief who's
actually following the law.
Speaker 7 (13:41):
You know.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
I got to say that ABC interview was really striking
that there's a great exchange where the ABC reporter comes
after him and Trump just just body slams him. Here here,
give a listen.
Speaker 6 (13:56):
Do you think the reputation in the United States has
gone down under your presence?
Speaker 7 (14:01):
No, I think it's gone way up. And I think
we're respected country again. We were left at all over
the world. We had a president that couldn't walk up
a flight of stairs, couldn't walk down a flight of stairs,
couldn't walk across the stage without falling. We had a
president that was grossly incompetent.
Speaker 8 (14:17):
You knew it.
Speaker 7 (14:18):
I knew it, and everybody knew it, but you guys
didn't want to write it because you're fake news.
Speaker 6 (14:22):
All right, thank you.
Speaker 7 (14:23):
By the way, ABC is one of the worst.
Speaker 9 (14:25):
I have to be honest, Okay, thank you.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
I'm sorry that that's just amazing. He's looking at the
main guy. He's like roasting them to their faces. He's like,
by the way, ABC, yeah, you're you guys, by the way,
one of the worst. He's like, thank you, we're going
to wrap now.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
He's thank you. Think and you actually have to watch
it watching the and I will say, one of the
things Trump doesn't get nearly enough credit for it is
how damn funny he is where he's like, look, it's
one thing if he could just say, look, Joe Biden
wasn't competent.
Speaker 7 (14:53):
But he's like, he.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Couldn't walk up the stairs, he couldn't walk down the stairs.
He falled, like you couldn't walk in the room like
it's just it is funny, but it's true, and he's right.
He's like, you knew it, I knew it, Everyone knew it,
and yet you were lying about it, and nobody in
the media. Have you seen a single maya culpa from
anyone in the media saying we knew Joe Biden wasn't
(15:15):
mentally incompetent and we deliberately lied to the American people
about it. Nobody's done that.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
No, no one has it all. One other thing I
do have to say about all of this one hundred
days is the speed at which this administration is working
and how well this team is working in the White
House is really impressive. You and I have been over
there with Doge when we were interviewing Eglon Musk. I've
been back last week as well to the White House.
(15:41):
This team around him is just incredible compared to what
he had in twenty sixteen, and I think that's part
of the reason why he's getting so much done. Would
you agree with that.
Speaker 7 (15:50):
But fully agree.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
I think the cabinet is much stronger than the twenty
sixteen or the twenty seventeen cabinet. I think in the
first term, he made some appointment that frankly did not
serve him well. He put people in place who disagreed
with him, who undermined him. And I think this second term,
I think he learned. I think he learned during the
four years of his first term as president. I think
(16:13):
he learned during the four years he was out of office.
I think he had a lot of time to think
about if and when he came back, what he would do.
And I think he put in place change agents. And
you know, there's another exchange in that ABC News interview
that I really like, where ABC News is defending illeal
immigration and the open borders under the Democrats, and he
(16:36):
just utterly calls them out here, give and listen to
that you're talking about.
Speaker 7 (16:39):
You know, you're making this person sound This is a
MS thirteen gang member, a tough cookie, been in lots
of skirmishes, beat the hell out of his wife, and
the wife was petrified to even talk about him. Okay,
this is not an innocent, wonderful gentleman from Man.
Speaker 6 (16:55):
I'm not saying he's a good guy. It's about the
rule of law. The order from the Supreme Court stamp
into our country illegally you could.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
I mean, I love it. He's not going to back down.
He's not afraid of the guys in the press at all.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
And the Democrats, you want to talk about stepping into
their trap. The Democrats have happily embraced we, the Democrat Party,
are the party of illegal immigrants. We are the party
of gang members. We are you know are pod two
days ago if you didn't listen to it. Really is astonishing.
They're two different Democrat judges in jail right now for
(17:30):
obstructing justice, for blocking federal law enforcement for arresting illegal immigrants,
and one of the two at a judge from New Mexico,
is charged with sheltering a trend de Aragua Venezuelan gang
member in his home and destroying evidence. It's really shocking.
(17:51):
So this gang member had a cell phone, and this
Democrat judge took the cell phone, smashed it with a hammer,
went and threw the cell phone away in a dumpster,
all in an effort to cover up the evidence of
this gang member's criminality. And one of the astonishing things
that the Department of Justice has told us is that
cell phone that the Democrat judge destroyed had pictures of
(18:14):
two people who had been decapitated, two victims presumably of
gang violence who had their heads cut off, and ben like, like,
what does it say that today's Democrat party what they're
about is there for venezuela and gang members who cut
people's heads off. Literally, I don't know how you could
be in a more radical position than where they are
(18:36):
right now as before.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
If you want to hear the rest of this conversation
on this topic, you can go back and dow the
podcast from earlier this week to hear the entire thing.
I want to get back to the big story number
three of the week you may have missed center. I
want to talk about what we just found out with
DOGE and and I think it's an important point to
(18:58):
reset because we saw a lot of oppress about DOAGE
early on. We've now moved on to other topics, or
I should say the media has moved on to other topics.
It does not mean that Elon Musk and the DOGE
staff have stopped doing their job. In fact, they are
still finding incredible amounts of waste, fraud and abuse. And
(19:18):
they sat down with Jesse Waters at Fox to kind
of give an update of like, hey, here we are
It was also a very cool interview because what we're
witnessing is Elon Musk showing these do gooders that he
has brought in they can be making a lot more
money in the private sector. There are a lot of young,
brilliant minds that are finding all of this information and
(19:40):
digging and digging in our government, and he's letting them
tell the stories of what they're finding. I love this
management style from him.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Well, I got to say, every week they're new bombshells
that are coming out from doze of just astonishing waste,
fraud and abuse. And so this latest interview that the
Elon did with Jesse Waters, he laid out, for example,
that the Institute of Peace had a one hundred and
thirty thousand dollars contract with a former member of the Taliban.
(20:12):
Now now just let that sink in.
Speaker 10 (20:14):
For a minute.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
One hundred and thirty grand to a former member of
the Taliban, and that is from the quote Institute of Peace.
Nothing like paying a terrorist if you're the Institute of Peace.
And by the way, that same institute a piece deleted
one terabyte of accounting records when DOGE entered their headquarters.
(20:38):
So they came in I got to tell you. If
you're prosecuting criminal conduct at a court of law and
a defendant destroys evidence, deletes data on their computer, burns papers,
burns receipts, burns photographs, that can be taken as evidence
of guilt the fact that you are deleting evidence. But
(20:59):
here give a listen to the description of what they
found about from the Institute a piece.
Speaker 9 (21:04):
Yeah, so it was by far the least peaceful agency
that we've worked with. Ironically, of course, Additionally, we found
that they were spending money on things like private jets,
and they even had a one hundred and thirty thousand
dollars contract with a former member of the Taliban.
Speaker 11 (21:17):
This is real. We don't encounter that at most agencies.
Speaker 12 (21:21):
What was the money going to the Taliban for?
Speaker 11 (21:25):
So it was a contractor.
Speaker 9 (21:26):
They received one hundred and thirty thousand dollars for generic services,
And to Elon's point, there was not actually a clear
description of what the contractor services were for.
Speaker 11 (21:33):
But was it for opium unclear? Or weapons? Yeah? Or
nothing for a broad or yeah?
Speaker 9 (21:44):
And you naturally have to ask the question how did
we get here? Like when the country was founded, there
were only four agencies. Today there are over four hundred,
so there's been a one hundred xc increase in the
number of agencies since the.
Speaker 11 (21:54):
Foundering of the nation.
Speaker 9 (21:55):
And thanks to President Trump, he's now signed to executive
orders to start to reduce the number of Asians season
the government and the Institute Apiece was one of them,
which is why our team went into try and understand
what was going on, and that's when we found all
the craziness, like the weapons and their armory. We found
the payments to the Taliban.
Speaker 11 (22:10):
Oh yeah, that the evidence, right.
Speaker 9 (22:15):
So just a few hours after we got into their headquarters,
we found that their chief accountant had actually deleted over
a terabyte.
Speaker 11 (22:21):
Of accounting records from several leaders.
Speaker 9 (22:22):
So you'd have to ask the question, well, why would
somebody do that if the Doch team fortunately was able
to recover that data with the help of a few
great employees at the Institute a Piece. And I think
the most troubling thing was they received fifty five million
dollars a year from Congress, and any money that went unspent,
instead of returning that to Congress, they would sweep it
into a private bank account which had no Congressional oversight.
And that's what they would use to fund things like
(22:44):
events at their headquarters and the private jets. And so
I think it's a great example because most Americans don't
know what's going on at a lot of these smaller agencies,
and this is a I think the most extreme case
of some of the.
Speaker 11 (22:57):
Wasteful spend that we're finding.
Speaker 12 (22:58):
So the agencies are high money from you, they're sending
into the Taliban. They have loaded weapons in the.
Speaker 11 (23:06):
Department buildings at the Institute of Peace.
Speaker 12 (23:08):
At the Institute of Peace, that's right, So this is
a cover up.
Speaker 13 (23:13):
When you guys roll in this wanted a cover up,
they delete a vast amount of financial information. That's really
a definition of a cover up.
Speaker 11 (23:23):
Isn't that illegal to delete evidence? Yes, shred documents?
Speaker 8 (23:28):
It is.
Speaker 9 (23:28):
It's it's certainly illegal to delete accounting records that the
Congress would certainly want to know where the Congressional appropriated
funds are going from taxpayers.
Speaker 12 (23:36):
When you catch them going Hillary style on their computers,
do you refer this to the Department of Justice?
Speaker 9 (23:43):
In this case, we did refer the evidence in the
accounting example to the FBI and d OJ.
Speaker 11 (23:48):
We're proud to do that. So yes, we did. Instance
has shown.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
I mean, let's just go back to what you said
center a moment ago and and dive into this a
little bit more. If this is that type of activity,
in this type of cover up and referring this to
the DOJ, what would the next step be on that?
And then also what can Congress do if anything, knowing
now what they've just told you.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Look, I got to say almost every word of that
is shocking. That they gave one hundred and thirty grand
to a for a member of the Taliban, that's astonishing.
That they spent taxpayer money on private jets. That's astonishing.
That the Institute of Peace had an armory with a
whole bunch of weapons. Now let me repeat that the
(24:36):
Institute of Peace apparently felt the need to be packing
and when does showed up, they started deleting their accounting records,
which screams guilt. By the way, when when President Trump
did the interview with ABC News in the Oval, one
of the things ABC News says as well, there have
been no referrals to the Apartment of Justice, and President
(24:56):
Trump quite rightly says, how do you know that, Well,
this is this is one. It turns out there have
been multiple referrals to the Apartment of Justice for fraud.
It's just ABC News doesn't want people to know that. Here,
I want you to listen to another clip. This is
another clip where the Department of Education had a four
billion dollar COVID fund that let government employees draw down.
(25:19):
They used it for things like parties and to rent
out venues like Caesar's Palace. Give a listen.
Speaker 8 (25:25):
Yeah, there was a four billion dollar COVID fund in
the Department of Education and there was no receipts required,
so people we just drawed down on it. And when
people looked into it, this wasn't just this was before us.
They found that money was being used to rent out
Caesar's Palace for parties, rent out stadiums, et cetera. And
so the one change that Doze made with our education
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is we had the simple requirement that if you draw
down money, you must first upload a receipt. That was
the only change that was made. You must upload your receipt,
and upon doing so, nobody drew down any money anymore.
Speaker 10 (25:58):
Yes, but we didn't say that we'd checked the receipt.
You could send a fank receipt, you could send a
picture of your dog, anything, anything, anything, And as soon
as we asked for anything at all, that something, the
requests were like, Oh, we don't need it anymore. That's interesting.
Speaker 11 (26:17):
They were renting Caesar's palace.
Speaker 10 (26:20):
Yes, they're like basically partying on the tax chair.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Of money, basically partying on the taxpayer's money. Okay, it
sounds criminal.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Let me just ask, like, like the man on the street,
did you think the Department of Education was spending your money,
your taxpayer money to rent out Caesar's palace. That is
the very definition of waste, fraud and abuse. Four billion
dollars in a COVID slush fund with zero receipts required.
(26:53):
Let me just say thank god for President Trump and
Elon Musk and Doge uncovering this revealing it because it
is completely indefensible. And by the way, the Democrats, just
like they've decided they're all in for illegal immigrants and
gang members and violent criminals and white theaters, they're also
all in for this kind of waste, fraud and abuse,
including renting out Caesar's palace with your tax payer money.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
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and we will see you back here on Monday morning.
Welcome.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
It is Verdict with Center Ted Cruz week in Review,
Ben Ferguson with you, and here are the big stories
that you may have missed that we talked about this week.
First up, a New Mexico judge now behind bars for
housing an illegal gang member and the AG is not
backing down on activist judges either. I'll have that for
you in just a second. Also, Donald Trump ross ABC
(00:25):
News in a one hundred day interview in the Oval
office and what he had to say, it went viral,
and we'll play it for you as well. And finally,
DOGE and the Institute for Peace, well they're exposing they
weren't actually very peaceful. Is they were giving money to
former terrorist members. It's the weekend review and it starts
right now. So when you combine this and this these
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types of arrests, there is no inclination here that this
is preemptively a idea or a mindset by the DOJ
or anybody else. This is reactionary to these activist judges,
and that's something that the media is also distorting.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Well it is, and I will say, look, there's another
story out of New Mexico, which is former Donya Anna
County Magistrate Judge Joel Kano sixty seven his wife, Nancy
Conos sixty eight are in custody right now. They were
arrested by Homeland Security at their La Cruze Las Cruces home.
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They were arrested for harboring a gang member, a trender
Aragua gang member in their home. And this trend to
Iragua gang member. He's covered in gang tattoos, tattoos, and
the judge faces charges of tampering with evidence. Now you
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know what he did? What was that he took this
Venezuelan gang member's cell phone, smashed it with a hammer
because it had incriminating evidence of the gang member with firearms.
And then he went and disposed of of the of
the cell phone. So who's trying to hide evidence? Now?
(02:12):
Do you know one of the pictures that was on
the cell phone allegedly that the judge destroyed with a hammer.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
I'm gonna guess it's probably one of those good old
gang sign pictures, right, because that's always what the gang
members have on their phone.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Now it's worse than that. It's a picture of two
victims who are decapitated. We're not talking nice, fuzzy friendly
gang members. We're not talking as the media loves to
call call the illegal immigrant up in Maryland a quote
Maryland band. This is a gang member who allegedly had
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pictures of two people with their heads cut off on
the cell phone. And what does a Democrat judge do
in New Mexico, Well, you got a gang member. He says, Hey,
let me hide you in my house and here give
me that phone because they could use that to prosecute you.
I'm going to smash it with a hammer and dispose
of it so they don't have the evidence to convict you.
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That is bizarre, and that is a Democrat judge.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
The Attorney General, by the way, she came out strong
and said we're not backing down when we see this
type of activism. Here's part of what she had to
say on Fox.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
And to set the stage for you and Sandra, this
was truly horrific. This guy was in court being prosecuted
by a state prosecutor for domestic violence battery. He had
beat up two people, a guy and a girl. Beat
the guy, hit guy thirty times, knocked him to the ground,
choked him, beat up a woman so badly they both
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had to go to the hospital. And John. You know,
it's so rare for victims to want to cooperate. They
wanted to cooperate. They were sitting in the courtroom with
the state prosecutor. The judge learns that Ice was outside
to get the guy because he had been deported in
twenty thirteen, came back in our country, commits these crimes,
charged with committing these crimes, victims in court. Judge finds out.
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She goes out in the hallway, screams at the immigration officers.
She's furious, visibly shaken, upset, sends them off to talk
to the chief judge. She comes back in the courtroom
here going to believe this, takes the defendant and the
defense attorney back in her chambers, takes them out of
private exit and tells them to leave. While a state
prosecutor and victims of domestic violence are sitting in the courtroom.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
You hear her explaining this, and you got to think
the majority of Americans, if they know that story, they're
going to be outraged, just as outrage as she is.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Yeah, no, that's exactly right. And I want to play
a second clip from Pambondi where she's talking about the
new Mexico judge, because this is not a crazy outlier. Unfortunately,
this is a pattern. Listen to the Attorney General talking
about this new Mexico judge harboring a trender Ragua gang
member in his home.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
I mean, when you look at the associations with this
Violet Venezuelan gang Trende Arragua and this person that they
harbored in their home, he was showing signs through clothing,
We're told, tattoos. There was evidence through voice messages and
text messages of his association to TDA. So what charges
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will Cano and his wife face if any?
Speaker 3 (05:24):
So, Judge Cano seemed to be former Judge Cano got,
he got. His charges were just unsealed. He's charged with obstruction.
He is charged. He admitted posts Miranda, he took one
of the TDA members cell phones himself, took it, beat
it with a hammer, destroyed it, and then walked to
the pieces to a city dumpster to dispose of it
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to protect him. The wife also is charged with destroying evidence, Sandra.
Not only that this TDA member and he had on
a necklace that said kill, something about death. He had
tattoos all over him. He also had on his cell
phone pictures of two decapitated victims, two victims, decapitated, gruesome photos,
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and he was sending them out, and whoever he was
sending them to was sending back saying, Hey, you need
to be careful. You shouldn't be sending these You shouldn't
be texting these photos out. Not only that, these two
the judge and his wife gave him assault rifles that
belonged to their daughter. That's what they're charged with in
the criminal report. Effi, David. He goes to a shooting
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range with these assault rifles with a suppressor, with other
known TDA members and they're shooting. This is the last
person that we want in our country, nor will we
ever tolerate a judge or anyone else harboring them lit.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
I'm just so glad we have an attorney general. You're
good friends of Pam. We've had her on the show
that is able to articulate this the way that she
is to continue to combat the lies they're being put
out there about who is actually getting arrested, who were targeting,
and who we're trying to get out of the country.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
No, that's exactly right, and it's the simple principle that
no one is above the law. Here's what Cash Betel,
the head of the FBI, to tweet it out. Quote
just now, the FBI arrested Judge Hannah Dugan out of Milwaukee, Wisconsin,
on charges of obstruction after evidence of Judge Dugan obstructing
an immigration arrest operation last week. We believe Judge Dugan
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intentionally misdirected federal agents away from the subject to be
arrested in her courthouse Eduardo Flores Ruiz, allowing the subject,
an illegal alien, to evade arrest. Thankfully, our agents chase
down the purp on foot and he's been in custody since.
But the judge's obstruction created increased danger to the public.
We will have more to share soon. Excellent work. And
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then the Attorney General Pambondi, she tweeted, I can confirm
that our FBI agents just arrested Hanna Dugan, a county
judge in Milwaukee, for allegedly helping an illegal alien avoid
arrest by ice. No one is above the law. Somehow,
Democrats believe that if they don't like a law, they
can just ignore it. They can defy it, by the way,
(08:11):
Joe Biden and Kamala Harris did that for four years,
they just utterly ignored federal immigration law. And unfortunately this
attitude of lawlessness, we're not bound by the law. Not
only that, we're going to actively fight federal law enforcement.
Who is trying to enforce the law, And what are
they doing this for. I mean, Ben seriously explained to me,
(08:35):
help me get in the head of let's say this,
New Mexico judge, New Mexico Judge, you and your wife say, hey,
we got some gang members from Venezuela. They're covered in tattoos,
They've got a necklace that says kill. They have cell
phones with pictures of people with their heads cut off.
(08:56):
Let's bring them to my house. Like, how explain to
me that thought process. My brain is not nimble enough
to get around this.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
See this is where I think to myself. I'm like,
all right, well, then there's got to be some sort
of incentive that is connecting them. There's got to be
something to gain here personally, because I can't just imagine
this judge is just like, yeah, we genuinely want to
hang out with people that are celebrating or involved in
this type of criminal activity, including as you described it, beheadings.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Yeah, look, you and I watch breaking bad. I don't
know if this is a judge that's on the take,
if there's corruption, if he's been paid by the gang.
I don't know if he's ideological and stupid or corrupt
or what. There's clearly more to this story we will learn,
but the facts on the face of it are astonishing.
(09:48):
And what's amazing, I don't know of a single Democrat
elected official who's denounced this conduct by the judges. Instead,
what they're saying is they're rushing to defend these judges
that are brazenly, brazenly defying the law.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Now, if you want to hear the rest of this conversation,
you can go back and listen to the full podcast
from earlier this week. Now onto story number two.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Here's something else that President Trump said at the rally
where he actually reprised my favorite line from his State
of the Union address this year, where he talked about
how Joe Biden had said just one year earlier that
he the only way to secure the border is if
Congress passed new legislation. Give a listen to what President
Trump said.
Speaker 5 (10:34):
For years, Joe Biden and the media told us that
stopping the flood of illegal immigration was absolutely impossible. He
said it was impossible. He didn't know what the hell
anybody was talking about. He said it was impossible. That
the president had no power to stop what was needed
in the form of legislation. He needed legislation, he had.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
No power to get.
Speaker 5 (11:00):
But it turned out that all we needed was a
new president.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
He's right, all we need was a new president. And
they said that wouldn't even get it done. Well, guess what,
not only did you get it done, but even the
mainstream media now Senator is forced to report on just
how big of a victory this is for Trump at
the border. ABC News they put it this way in
their own interview with the President.
Speaker 6 (11:25):
Here in the Oval office. It's special. One hundred days
into your second term. So what's the one thing, just
one thing that you think is the most significant thing
you've done so far in these hundred days.
Speaker 7 (11:40):
Well, I think maybe the border is the most significant
because our country was.
Speaker 6 (11:44):
Really going bad.
Speaker 7 (11:45):
They were allowing people to come in from prisons, as
you know, and you've heard me say it, but you've
heard a lot of people say it. Prisons, mental institutions,
gang members, murderers, We had many murders, eleven eight hundred
and eighty eight. They think some murdered more than one person.
So yet murderers coming in. You had everybody coming in,
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and not just South America, from all over the world
that were emptying their prisons into our country. And now
it's totally closed down. And you've seen just yesterday they
announced ninety nine point nine percent. Nobody thought that could happen.
Then it happened quickly, very quickly, and I think that's
very significant. But we're doing other things that are very significant.
(12:26):
Results will take a little bit longer because it's one
of those you know, it's complicated. It's many years of
trading abuse. We've been abused by other countries for years
and years. They laughed at us, they thought we were
stupid people. And we're fixing it. And I think that's
going to be very very important.
Speaker 6 (12:44):
But I have a lot of ground to cover.
Speaker 7 (12:45):
Yeah, I would really say that that the border is
so important, you know, just we'll get there.
Speaker 6 (12:50):
The immigration is huge, and we're going to get there,
but I want to start.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
You hear him say the southern border is totally closed
down ninety nine point nine percent. I'll be honest, I
don't even think Americans that voted for Donald Trump, that
believed in him, thought he could get this done this
quick with those types of numbers.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
The numbers are staggering. He said, nobody believed we could
get there. I actually think that's wrong. I think Donald
Trump believed he could get there. He knew he could
get there. And I'll tell you, you and I we both
predicted it that we would see the numbers absolutely plummet.
Although it's a fair point, we said absolutely plummet. I
don't think I said ninety nine point nine percent. I
might have thought it'd be ninety percent or ninety five percent,
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but ninety nine point nine is. To be honest, Trump
might even be surprised. It's that high. It's staggering, and
and it's an example of a commander in chief who's
actually following the law.
Speaker 7 (13:41):
You know.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
I got to say that ABC interview was really striking
that there's a great exchange where the ABC reporter comes
after him and Trump just just body slams him. Here here,
give a listen.
Speaker 6 (13:56):
Do you think the reputation in the United States has
gone down under your presence?
Speaker 7 (14:01):
No, I think it's gone way up. And I think
we're respected country again. We were left at all over
the world. We had a president that couldn't walk up
a flight of stairs, couldn't walk down a flight of stairs,
couldn't walk across the stage without falling. We had a
president that was grossly incompetent.
Speaker 8 (14:17):
You knew it.
Speaker 7 (14:18):
I knew it, and everybody knew it, but you guys
didn't want to write it because you're fake news.
Speaker 6 (14:22):
All right, thank you.
Speaker 7 (14:23):
By the way, ABC is one of the worst.
Speaker 9 (14:25):
I have to be honest, Okay, thank you.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
I'm sorry that that's just amazing. He's looking at the
main guy. He's like roasting them to their faces. He's like,
by the way, ABC, yeah, you're you guys, by the way,
one of the worst. He's like, thank you, we're going
to wrap now.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
He's thank you. Think and you actually have to watch
it watching the and I will say, one of the
things Trump doesn't get nearly enough credit for it is
how damn funny he is where he's like, look, it's
one thing if he could just say, look, Joe Biden
wasn't competent.
Speaker 7 (14:53):
But he's like, he.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Couldn't walk up the stairs, he couldn't walk down the stairs.
He falled, like you couldn't walk in the room like
it's just it is funny, but it's true, and he's right.
He's like, you knew it, I knew it, Everyone knew it,
and yet you were lying about it, and nobody in
the media. Have you seen a single maya culpa from
anyone in the media saying we knew Joe Biden wasn't
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mentally incompetent and we deliberately lied to the American people
about it. Nobody's done that.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
No, no one has it all. One other thing I
do have to say about all of this one hundred
days is the speed at which this administration is working
and how well this team is working in the White
House is really impressive. You and I have been over
there with Doge when we were interviewing Eglon Musk. I've
been back last week as well to the White House.
(15:41):
This team around him is just incredible compared to what
he had in twenty sixteen, and I think that's part
of the reason why he's getting so much done. Would
you agree with that.
Speaker 7 (15:50):
But fully agree.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
I think the cabinet is much stronger than the twenty
sixteen or the twenty seventeen cabinet. I think in the
first term, he made some appointment that frankly did not
serve him well. He put people in place who disagreed
with him, who undermined him. And I think this second term,
I think he learned. I think he learned during the
four years of his first term as president. I think
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he learned during the four years he was out of office.
I think he had a lot of time to think
about if and when he came back, what he would do.
And I think he put in place change agents. And
you know, there's another exchange in that ABC News interview
that I really like, where ABC News is defending illeal
immigration and the open borders under the Democrats, and he
(16:36):
just utterly calls them out here, give and listen to
that you're talking about.
Speaker 7 (16:39):
You know, you're making this person sound This is a
MS thirteen gang member, a tough cookie, been in lots
of skirmishes, beat the hell out of his wife, and
the wife was petrified to even talk about him. Okay,
this is not an innocent, wonderful gentleman from Man.
Speaker 6 (16:55):
I'm not saying he's a good guy. It's about the
rule of law. The order from the Supreme Court stamp
into our country illegally you could.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
I mean, I love it. He's not going to back down.
He's not afraid of the guys in the press at all.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
And the Democrats, you want to talk about stepping into
their trap. The Democrats have happily embraced we, the Democrat Party,
are the party of illegal immigrants. We are the party
of gang members. We are you know are pod two
days ago if you didn't listen to it. Really is astonishing.
They're two different Democrat judges in jail right now for
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obstructing justice, for blocking federal law enforcement for arresting illegal immigrants,
and one of the two at a judge from New Mexico,
is charged with sheltering a trend de Aragua Venezuelan gang
member in his home and destroying evidence. It's really shocking.
(17:51):
So this gang member had a cell phone, and this
Democrat judge took the cell phone, smashed it with a hammer,
went and threw the cell phone away in a dumpster,
all in an effort to cover up the evidence of
this gang member's criminality. And one of the astonishing things
that the Department of Justice has told us is that
cell phone that the Democrat judge destroyed had pictures of
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two people who had been decapitated, two victims presumably of
gang violence who had their heads cut off, and ben like, like,
what does it say that today's Democrat party what they're
about is there for venezuela and gang members who cut
people's heads off. Literally, I don't know how you could
be in a more radical position than where they are
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right now as before.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
If you want to hear the rest of this conversation
on this topic, you can go back and dow the
podcast from earlier this week to hear the entire thing.
I want to get back to the big story number
three of the week you may have missed center. I
want to talk about what we just found out with
DOGE and and I think it's an important point to
(18:58):
reset because we saw a lot of oppress about DOAGE
early on. We've now moved on to other topics, or
I should say the media has moved on to other topics.
It does not mean that Elon Musk and the DOGE
staff have stopped doing their job. In fact, they are
still finding incredible amounts of waste, fraud and abuse. And
(19:18):
they sat down with Jesse Waters at Fox to kind
of give an update of like, hey, here we are
It was also a very cool interview because what we're
witnessing is Elon Musk showing these do gooders that he
has brought in they can be making a lot more
money in the private sector. There are a lot of young,
brilliant minds that are finding all of this information and
(19:40):
digging and digging in our government, and he's letting them
tell the stories of what they're finding. I love this
management style from him.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Well, I got to say, every week they're new bombshells
that are coming out from doze of just astonishing waste,
fraud and abuse. And so this latest interview that the
Elon did with Jesse Waters, he laid out, for example,
that the Institute of Peace had a one hundred and
thirty thousand dollars contract with a former member of the Taliban.
(20:12):
Now now just let that sink in.
Speaker 10 (20:14):
For a minute.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
One hundred and thirty grand to a former member of
the Taliban, and that is from the quote Institute of Peace.
Nothing like paying a terrorist if you're the Institute of Peace.
And by the way, that same institute a piece deleted
one terabyte of accounting records when DOGE entered their headquarters.
(20:38):
So they came in I got to tell you. If
you're prosecuting criminal conduct at a court of law and
a defendant destroys evidence, deletes data on their computer, burns papers,
burns receipts, burns photographs, that can be taken as evidence
of guilt the fact that you are deleting evidence. But
(20:59):
here give a listen to the description of what they
found about from the Institute a piece.
Speaker 9 (21:04):
Yeah, so it was by far the least peaceful agency
that we've worked with. Ironically, of course, Additionally, we found
that they were spending money on things like private jets,
and they even had a one hundred and thirty thousand
dollars contract with a former member of the Taliban.
Speaker 11 (21:17):
This is real. We don't encounter that at most agencies.
Speaker 12 (21:21):
What was the money going to the Taliban for?
Speaker 11 (21:25):
So it was a contractor.
Speaker 9 (21:26):
They received one hundred and thirty thousand dollars for generic services,
And to Elon's point, there was not actually a clear
description of what the contractor services were for.
Speaker 11 (21:33):
But was it for opium unclear? Or weapons? Yeah? Or
nothing for a broad or yeah?
Speaker 9 (21:44):
And you naturally have to ask the question how did
we get here? Like when the country was founded, there
were only four agencies. Today there are over four hundred,
so there's been a one hundred xc increase in the
number of agencies since the.
Speaker 11 (21:54):
Foundering of the nation.
Speaker 9 (21:55):
And thanks to President Trump, he's now signed to executive
orders to start to reduce the number of Asians season
the government and the Institute Apiece was one of them,
which is why our team went into try and understand
what was going on, and that's when we found all
the craziness, like the weapons and their armory. We found
the payments to the Taliban.
Speaker 11 (22:10):
Oh yeah, that the evidence, right.
Speaker 9 (22:15):
So just a few hours after we got into their headquarters,
we found that their chief accountant had actually deleted over
a terabyte.
Speaker 11 (22:21):
Of accounting records from several leaders.
Speaker 9 (22:22):
So you'd have to ask the question, well, why would
somebody do that if the Doch team fortunately was able
to recover that data with the help of a few
great employees at the Institute a Piece. And I think
the most troubling thing was they received fifty five million
dollars a year from Congress, and any money that went unspent,
instead of returning that to Congress, they would sweep it
into a private bank account which had no Congressional oversight.
And that's what they would use to fund things like
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events at their headquarters and the private jets. And so
I think it's a great example because most Americans don't
know what's going on at a lot of these smaller agencies,
and this is a I think the most extreme case
of some of the.
Speaker 11 (22:57):
Wasteful spend that we're finding.
Speaker 12 (22:58):
So the agencies are high money from you, they're sending
into the Taliban. They have loaded weapons in the.
Speaker 11 (23:06):
Department buildings at the Institute of Peace.
Speaker 12 (23:08):
At the Institute of Peace, that's right, So this is
a cover up.
Speaker 13 (23:13):
When you guys roll in this wanted a cover up,
they delete a vast amount of financial information. That's really
a definition of a cover up.
Speaker 11 (23:23):
Isn't that illegal to delete evidence? Yes, shred documents?
Speaker 8 (23:28):
It is.
Speaker 9 (23:28):
It's it's certainly illegal to delete accounting records that the
Congress would certainly want to know where the Congressional appropriated
funds are going from taxpayers.
Speaker 12 (23:36):
When you catch them going Hillary style on their computers,
do you refer this to the Department of Justice?
Speaker 9 (23:43):
In this case, we did refer the evidence in the
accounting example to the FBI and d OJ.
Speaker 11 (23:48):
We're proud to do that. So yes, we did. Instance
has shown.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
I mean, let's just go back to what you said
center a moment ago and and dive into this a
little bit more. If this is that type of activity,
in this type of cover up and referring this to
the DOJ, what would the next step be on that?
And then also what can Congress do if anything, knowing
now what they've just told you.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Look, I got to say almost every word of that
is shocking. That they gave one hundred and thirty grand
to a for a member of the Taliban, that's astonishing.
That they spent taxpayer money on private jets. That's astonishing.
That the Institute of Peace had an armory with a
whole bunch of weapons. Now let me repeat that the
(24:36):
Institute of Peace apparently felt the need to be packing
and when does showed up, they started deleting their accounting records,
which screams guilt. By the way, when when President Trump
did the interview with ABC News in the Oval, one
of the things ABC News says as well, there have
been no referrals to the Apartment of Justice, and President
(24:56):
Trump quite rightly says, how do you know that, Well,
this is this is one. It turns out there have
been multiple referrals to the Apartment of Justice for fraud.
It's just ABC News doesn't want people to know that. Here,
I want you to listen to another clip. This is
another clip where the Department of Education had a four
billion dollar COVID fund that let government employees draw down.
(25:19):
They used it for things like parties and to rent
out venues like Caesar's Palace. Give a listen.
Speaker 8 (25:25):
Yeah, there was a four billion dollar COVID fund in
the Department of Education and there was no receipts required,
so people we just drawed down on it. And when
people looked into it, this wasn't just this was before us.
They found that money was being used to rent out
Caesar's Palace for parties, rent out stadiums, et cetera. And
so the one change that Doze made with our education
(25:46):
is we had the simple requirement that if you draw
down money, you must first upload a receipt. That was
the only change that was made. You must upload your receipt,
and upon doing so, nobody drew down any money anymore.
Speaker 10 (25:58):
Yes, but we didn't say that we'd checked the receipt.
You could send a fank receipt, you could send a
picture of your dog, anything, anything, anything, And as soon
as we asked for anything at all, that something, the
requests were like, Oh, we don't need it anymore. That's interesting.
Speaker 11 (26:17):
They were renting Caesar's palace.
Speaker 10 (26:20):
Yes, they're like basically partying on the tax chair.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Of money, basically partying on the taxpayer's money. Okay, it
sounds criminal.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Let me just ask, like, like the man on the street,
did you think the Department of Education was spending your money,
your taxpayer money to rent out Caesar's palace. That is
the very definition of waste, fraud and abuse. Four billion
dollars in a COVID slush fund with zero receipts required.
(26:53):
Let me just say thank god for President Trump and
Elon Musk and Doge uncovering this revealing it because it
is completely indefensible. And by the way, the Democrats, just
like they've decided they're all in for illegal immigrants and
gang members and violent criminals and white theaters, they're also
all in for this kind of waste, fraud and abuse,
including renting out Caesar's palace with your tax payer money.
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