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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Well, there's only one way to describe the interview last night.
It did not go well for Kamala Harris. She sat
down with Fox News Channels Brett Baer to do a interview.
You could argue, honestly, this is the first interview that
she has done that was with an actual journalist that

(00:21):
was going to be tough. All the other interviews have
been puff pieces, have been kind of a joke, and
you lose your edge when you're only talking to people
that don't ask you tough questions. I witnessed this as
I was at the debate between Colin Alred and Ted

(00:42):
Cruz last night two nights ago, I should say, technically now,
and we prepped for that debate. I spent a lot
of time getting ready for that debate with Center Cruz
doing debate prep. And it was shocking how bad Holland
already did during that debate. And it was really, I think,

(01:03):
because he had not had any tough questions. He had
done all of these interviews with friendlies, with people that
were not really asking you hard questions, and she had
done the view, but they weren't going to hurt her.
They weren't going to ask her a tough question. They
were going to challenge her. She had done Charlemagne, the Gods,
she had done, call her Daddy, podcasts, she had done,

(01:27):
you know, all of these different just the Oprah interview
for example, there was nothing that she had really had
to deal with.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
It was tough.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
Now Donald Trump, on the other hand, has to do
tough interviews every day, and he asked, there's questions from
the media who are just spitting fire at him every day. Well,
Harris is stagnated in the polls, and they're watching these
polls and they're watching her fall behind. And so they
made a decision, Okay, maybe we do a real interview

(01:59):
and maybe that can help us turn the tide because
all these other fluff interviews with a view aren't working.
It looks like propaganda. The American people clearly are looking
at it that way. Let's change it up, right, Let's
do something a little bit different. So they agreed because
there was enough downside, I want to make that clear

(02:19):
happening in the election. There was not enough upside, and
they were stagnating. The campaign was stalling out. All right,
let's see if we can shake it up a little bit.
We'll do an interview with Brett Baer, and they did it.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
It was at one point so bad.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
Apparently there was four staffers in the room jumping up
and down, swinging their arms around in a circle, telling
them to wrap the interview like we're done. End it,
get it like we're done. Because Kamala Harris has not
had tough interviews, so when kid gloves are coming after you,

(02:58):
and that's what happened. This was the kid glove interview
that she's been doing for weeks on ends since she's
been coronated, right, and no one voted for her, she
didn't know how to handle it. Now, I'm going to
play this interview in its entirety because I think it's
important that people hear it. I think it's incredibly important
that people hear exactly what she is having to say,
why she's sang it, and understand just how tough this

(03:21):
interview was for her. And it's not a tough interview
like this. That's the part I think is that these
were just real tough questions that any candidate should answer,
the questions that Trump is having to answer every single day.

Speaker 3 (03:36):
Listen, President, thank you for the time.

Speaker 4 (03:38):
Thank you, it's good to be with your Brett.

Speaker 5 (03:39):
You know, voters tell polsters all over the country and
here in Pennsylvania that immigration is one of the key
issues that they're looking at this election, and specifically the
influx of illegal immigrants from more than one hundred and
fifty countries. How many illegal immigrants would you estimate your
administration has released into the country over the last three

(04:00):
and a half years.

Speaker 4 (04:02):
Well, I'm glad you raised the issue of immigration because
I agree with you. It is a topic of discussion
that people want to rightly have. And you know what
I'm going to talk about.

Speaker 5 (04:12):
Yeah, but you're just a number. Do you think it's
one million? Three million?

Speaker 4 (04:16):
But let's just get to the point, Okay. The point
is that we have a broken immigration system that needs
to be repaired.

Speaker 5 (04:24):
So your Homeland Security secretary said that eighty five percent
of apprehensions.

Speaker 4 (04:27):
I'm not finished.

Speaker 3 (04:28):
We have a refreshment of.

Speaker 5 (04:30):
Six million people have been released into the country.

Speaker 3 (04:34):
And let me just finish. I'll get you the question.
I promise you I was beginning to answer.

Speaker 5 (04:37):
And when you came into office, your administration immediately reversed
a number of Trump border policies, most significantly the policy
that required illegal immigrants to be detained through deportation, either
in the US or in Mexico, and you switched that policy,
they were released from custody awaiting trial.

Speaker 3 (04:56):
So instead included in those.

Speaker 5 (04:59):
Were a large number of single men, adult men who
went on to commit heinous crimes. So, looking back, do
you regret the decision to terminate remain in Mexico at
the beginning of your administration.

Speaker 4 (05:12):
At the beginning of our administration, within practically hours of
taking the oath, the first bill that we offered Congress,
before we worked on infrastructure, before the Inflation and Reduction Act,
before the Chips and Science Act, before any before the

(05:32):
Bipartisan Safe Communities Act, the first bill practically within hours
of taking the oath, was a bill to fix our
immigration system.

Speaker 3 (05:42):
This, ma'am.

Speaker 5 (05:43):
It was called the US Citizen Citizenship Act of twenty
twenty one.

Speaker 3 (05:47):
It was essentially ide.

Speaker 6 (05:49):
A citizenship for the I finished. I finished responding for you.

Speaker 4 (05:54):
You have to let me finish.

Speaker 6 (05:55):
You had the.

Speaker 3 (05:55):
White House and the House and the Senate, and they
didn't bring.

Speaker 4 (05:58):
Up responding to the point you're raising, and I'd like
to finish. We recognized from day one that to the
point of this being your first question. It is a
priority for US as a nation and for the American people,
and our focus has been on fixing a problem. And

(06:18):
from day one then we have done a number of things,
including to address our asylum system and put more resources,
getting more judges, what we needed to do to tighten
up penalties and increase penalties for illegal crossings, what we
needed to do to deal with points of entry between

(06:39):
border entry points. That's the work we did, and we
worked on supporting what was a bipartisan effort, including some
of the most conservative members of the United States Congress,
to actually strengthen the border. That border bill would have
put fifteen hundred more border agents at the border, which
is why I believe the border patrol agents supported the bill.

(07:01):
It would have allowed us to stem the flow of
fentanyl coming into the United States, which does a scourge
affecting people of every background, every geographic location in our country,
killing people. It would have allowed us to put more
resources into prosecuting transnational criminal organizations, which I have done
as the attorney general former attorney general.

Speaker 6 (07:20):
Of a border state.

Speaker 4 (07:22):
A couple of executed trafficking of drugs, guns, and human beings,
and Donald Trump, but let me just finish.

Speaker 3 (07:27):
Democrats voted against that.

Speaker 4 (07:29):
Learned about that bill and told them to kill it
because he preferred to run on a problem instead of
fixing a problem. And in this election, this is rightly
a discussion that the American people want to have, and
what they want are solutions, and they want a president
of the United States who's not playing political games with

(07:49):
the issue but actually is focused on fixing.

Speaker 5 (07:52):
Six Democrats voted against that bill. It would have allowed
one point eight million illegal immigrants into the country a year.

Speaker 3 (07:58):
A lot of conservatives had a proper them with it.
These are the six.

Speaker 5 (08:01):
Democrats, but more importantly back to the original premise, Joscelyn Hungary,
Rachel Morin, Laken Riley. They are young women who were
brutally assaulted and killed by some of the men who
were released at the beginning of the administration, well before
a negotiated bipartisan bill.

Speaker 1 (08:20):
I'm going to hit pause here because I don't want
to rush this, because I think you notice what her
strategy was on that question. Her strategy is to run
out the clock. That is her strategy. It is to say, well,
I was a prosecutor. I mean, you just heard it.
She didn't answer the question. By the way, she didn't
answer the question, and Brett Baer is not letting her

(08:44):
get away with what she normally does because he's an
actual journalist who's asking real questions, and he asked us
question about these girls that have died. Now, they didn't
expect they were going to have to have a real interview,
so they didn't train her for this. They didn't get
hurt ready for this. That is a problem. Okay, it's
a real big problem. And this interview was a disaster

(09:12):
for one reason. I want to be clear on the
issue of policy. It was a disaster on policies. That's
the problem here. She couldn't defend her record. She was
asked a question about the border. She tried to filibuster,
that didn't work. Then Brett came back at her with, Hey,

(09:32):
there are real women that are being murdered because of
y'all's policies and told their stories.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
Listen that bill.

Speaker 5 (09:38):
It would have allowed one point eight million illegal immigrants
into the country a year.

Speaker 3 (09:42):
A lot of conservatives had a problem with it.

Speaker 5 (09:45):
These are the six Democrats, but more importantly, back to
the original premise, Joscelyn Hungary, Rachel Morin Lincoln Riley. They
are young women who were brutally assaulted and killed by
some of the men who were released at the beginning
of the deministration, well before a negotiated bipartisan bill. Former
President Clinton actually referred to Lake and Riley Sunday campaigning

(10:07):
for You and Georgia, saying, if those men had been
properly vetted, Lake and Riley probably would not have been killed.
So if it wouldn't have happened, this is well before
any negotiation, This is well before Donald Trump got involved
in the politics. This is a specific policy decision by
your administration to release these men into the country.

Speaker 3 (10:26):
So what I'm saying to you, do you know those
families really I think an apology.

Speaker 4 (10:31):
Let me just say, first of all, those are tragic cases.
There's no question about that. There's no question about that.
And I can't imagine the pain that the families of
those victims have experienced for a loss that should not
have occurred. So that is true. It is also true

(10:54):
that if a board of security had actually been passed
nine months ago, it would be nine months that we
would have had more border agents at the border, more
support for the folks who are working around the clock
trying to hold it all.

Speaker 6 (11:09):
Together, Madam Vice President, ensure that no future harm would occur.

Speaker 4 (11:15):
And this election in twenty days will determine whether we
have a president of the United States who actually cares
more about fixing a problem, even if it is not
to their political advantage in an election.

Speaker 6 (11:28):
Because there was a solution, Bret.

Speaker 5 (11:31):
Madam Vice President, it was a policy decision in the
early part of your administration.

Speaker 3 (11:35):
I will let one of the mothers talk about it.
Take a listen.

Speaker 7 (11:39):
Because of the Biden Harris administration open border policies catch
and release, they were enrolled in the Alternatives to Detention program.
This meant that they were released into the United States.
It was not even a full three weeks later that
they would take my daughter, Jocelyn Nungerray's life. I believe
the Biden Harris administration open border policies are responsible for

(12:01):
the death of my daughter.

Speaker 3 (12:03):
That's the early days. So do you owe them an apologies?

Speaker 4 (12:07):
When I shall tell you that I am so sorry
for her loss. I'm so sorry for her loss, sincerely.

Speaker 1 (12:14):
Notice she's not gonna say I'm sorry, She's saying politically,
I am so sorry for her loss. This isn't my fault,
This isn't my problem. I created the problem. I allowed
for the open borders, but I don't care. This is
a disconnect. You just heard that mother's story, and she

(12:36):
is refusing to admit that she made a mistake. She
is refusing to admit that her policies have caused people
to die, allowing dangerous criminals, those convicted of rape to
be released into America not deported, those that are convicted
of murder to be released into America not be deported.

(12:59):
When we caught them, and they knew they were catching rapists,
convicted rapists, they knew by the thousands and murders. Remember
when Venezuela released like like like emptied out their jails.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
That's a fact. And where do they come.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
Many of them came to the United States of America
and we let them in under her administration. And so
when she's asked this question, like, hey, do you want
to say you're sorry, She's like, I'm sorry, Like you know,
I hate their loss, but I don't care.

Speaker 2 (13:29):
I'm not saying i'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
I'm not gonna I'm not gonna give you Brett what
you want, which is a hey, I have a policy
that didn't work. Well, I'm not doing that, like I'm
here to fundamentally change this country. And you have to
understand there is no compassion there. She's angry. She's having
to answer this question because what her plan is, and

(13:52):
what Biden's plan is, and what the Democratic Party's plan
is is to overrun this country of the legals, then
give them amnesty, then they vote for them forever. And
if you die in the process, or your kids are
kidnapped or raped, or your wife is raped, they don't care.
You are collateral damage in their ultimate grand plan. That's

(14:13):
what you are. You are collateral damage. I'm going to
play for you a mother whose child was murdered by
an illegal immigrant, and this is what she said before Congress,
and then listen to how defiant Nancy Pelos Excuse me,
Kama Harris is.

Speaker 2 (14:32):
Listen carefully.

Speaker 7 (14:33):
As of the Biden Harris administration open border policies catch
and release, they were enrolled in the Alternatives to Detention program.
This meant that they were released into the United States.
It was not even a full three weeks later that
they would take my daughter, Jocelyn Nungray's life. I believe
the Biden Harris administration. Open border policies are responsible for

(14:55):
the death of my daughter.

Speaker 3 (14:57):
That's the early days. So do you owe them an apologies?

Speaker 4 (15:01):
I shall tell you that I am so sorry for
her loss. I am so sorry for her loss, sincerely.
But let's talk about what is happening right now with
an individual who does not want to participate in solutions.

Speaker 6 (15:18):
Let's talk about that as well.

Speaker 4 (15:20):
In all fairness, I told you I feel awful for
what she and her family have experienced.

Speaker 5 (15:26):
During that time. You said repeatedly that the border was secure.
When in your mind did it start becoming a crisis.

Speaker 4 (15:34):
We've had a broken immigration system transcending by the way
Donald Trump's administration even before. Let's all be honest about that.
I have no pride in saying that this is a
perfect immigration system.

Speaker 6 (15:46):
I've been clear. I think we all are that it
needs to be fixed. We need more.

Speaker 4 (15:52):
I was just down at the border talking with border agents.
And they will tell you, and I'm sure you probably
I know you investigate in your are a serious journalist.
They will tell you we need more judges.

Speaker 1 (16:05):
We need by the way, I love how she says,
and you're a serious journalist. That tells you why she's
sitting there with Brett Baer. She's sitting there with Brett
Baer because she desperately needs this interview. She desperately needs
an interview where people will look at her differently. You're

(16:30):
a serious journalist.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
I mean that.

Speaker 1 (16:35):
I mean she just said you're a serious journalist. That's like,
why would she say that? Because she's desperate. I just
went down to the border. I'm the borders are I
never went for years, but now that I'm running for
president and no one's voted for me, I'm serious and
I'm at the border. I don't know if that plays
with America. I'm not sure it plays at all.

Speaker 4 (16:59):
We need more I was just down at the border
talking with border agents. And they will tell you, and
I'm sure you probably I know you investigate and you
are a series journalist. They will tell you we need
more judges. We need to we need to process those
cases faster. We need this support for those cases that
should be prosecuted. They need more resources, and Congress ultimately

(17:23):
is the only place that that's going to get fixed.

Speaker 6 (17:26):
Brett. That's how the system works.

Speaker 3 (17:28):
That's the premises question.

Speaker 5 (17:29):
There're ninety plus executive orders that were rescinded in the
first days. Many of those were Trump border policies. I'm
not going to stay here because there's other things to
talk about. But you frequently talked to the Border Patrol
Union for support of that bipartisan bill, and they did,
they supported it, but they also just endorsed Donald Trump
and said, you've been quote a failure with border security.

Speaker 3 (17:50):
Why do you think they said that.

Speaker 4 (17:52):
I think they're frustrated, and I get it. They want support,
they want support, and that's what that Border security bill
would have done. These guys down at the border, these
men and women, they're working hard, they're working around the clock.

Speaker 6 (18:07):
I get it.

Speaker 5 (18:09):
There's a lot of people that look back at what
she said at twenty nineteen when you first ran for president,
and there have been changes, and you've talked about some
of them. When it comes to immigration, you supported allowing
immigrants in the country illegally to apply for driver's license,
to qualify for free tuition at universities, to be enrolled
in free healthcare. Do you still support those things?

Speaker 4 (18:29):
Listen, that was five years ago, and I'm very clear
that I will follow the law. I have made that
statement over and over again, and as Vice president of
the United States. That's exactly what I've done, not to
mention before.

Speaker 1 (18:41):
Notice she didn't answer that question. She's telling you her
policy a five years ago which turned this into a disaster,
the policy that she advocated for that then she turned
into reality.

Speaker 2 (18:51):
She just said to Brett Baer, I'm going to follow
the law. No you're not.

Speaker 1 (18:55):
If you follow the law, people that come in this
country illegally don't get to stay in this country indefinitely
and then get them amnesty. If you're following the law,
you don't let legal immigrants get American documents to make
it easier for them to stay here, like drivers' licenses.
That's what people need to understand about her. And she

(19:19):
just said this to Brett Baer, like, Oh, well, you know,
I follow the law. I'm a person law and order.
If that was true, convicted rapists and convicted murders wouldn't
be among us right now. Released by Kamala Harris as
the borders are in her policies.

Speaker 5 (19:34):
If that's the case, you chose a running mate Tim Walls,
governor of Minnesota, who signed those very things into state law.

Speaker 3 (19:42):
So do you support that?

Speaker 4 (19:45):
We are very clear and I'm very clear, as is
Tim Walls, that we must support and enforce federal law,
and that is exactly what we will do.

Speaker 5 (19:57):
So decriminalizing border crossings, like you said in twenty nineteen,
I do not.

Speaker 4 (20:02):
Believe in decriminalizing border crossings, and I've not done that
as vice president. I will not do that as president.

Speaker 3 (20:08):
So these are that you've had.

Speaker 6 (20:10):
Well, let's be very clear.

Speaker 4 (20:12):
I'm the only person who's running for president who is
prosecuted transnational criminal organizations, from the Sinaloa cartel to the
Guadalajara quote cartel to people who have trafficked and guns, drugs,
and human beings. I have spent a significant part of
my career going after people who present a threat to

(20:33):
the safety of the American people and cross our border
with the intent of doing US harm and cross our
border illegally, and I will do that work as vice president.
I take that work quite seriously.

Speaker 2 (20:46):
This is a time when voters, by the way, why
hasn't she done it?

Speaker 8 (20:49):
Then?

Speaker 1 (20:51):
I mean, that's that's the only way I know how
to describe this is that's a lie. Like that's just
a lie. And I think everybody knows that that's a lie.
Everybody understands that that is a lie. She's lying. And
you can sit there and and he even was trying to,
I think, be like nice and put it in a
different way. Did you notice that where He's like, so

(21:13):
you've had an evolution on this, meaning you flip flopped,
you changed, you did a bait and switch. And she's like,
I'm the only one that's prosecuted. I'm the only one
that's that went after the cartels in this in this race.
The best thing that ever happened to the cartel. The
best thing is that Kamala Harris was the vice president

(21:36):
and is now the and Joe Biden was the president
and she's now the leader of the Democratic Party. Because
they're making billions of and billions of dollars sex trafficking,
human trafficking, child trafficking, and fetnyl coming into this country
across our southern border. You want to know the easiest

(21:56):
job right now, And I'm not kidding when I say this,
The easiest job, the easiest job right now in Mexico
is to human traffic people. It's big money. It's a
multi billion dollar industry. You don't have to be licensed
for it either. It's a massive, massive amount of cash,
just sitting there with illegal immigrants. I was sent a

(22:18):
video a couple days ago from a rancher and they
got it to me, and it was a rancher showing
four children, including a toddler okay, under a year old,
who were dropped off on their land by traffickers, no parents,
no one to take care of them. They were found
sleeping on a pile of dirt by the farmers. They

(22:43):
didn't care if they were and I'm not kidding when
I say this, eaten by an animal in the middle
of the night. They were not old enough to defend themselves.
They didn't care if no one found them and they died,
they didn't care. They got them across the border. Pay
me the money. There were no adults with them, anyone
could abuse them. And then when they get thear to

(23:04):
this system, they can be abused by anybody else as well.
It doesn't matter. Anyone can abuse these children. They can
disappear into society the same exact way that there have
been seventy thousand kids at the Harris administration has lost
Kama Harris clearly, and this is a bigger theme that

(23:25):
I think people need to understand. Set up a support
system for illegal immigrants in this country. She and her
policies set up a support system to make it easier
on illegal immigrants once again in this country.

Speaker 2 (23:41):
That is the point that Brett Bear is making.

Speaker 1 (23:44):
You come into this country, and Kamala Harris's view is,
I will help you. I will help you come into
this country and live in this country. I will give
you documents that make you feel like you belong here,
that you should stay here. I will give you what
you need to live a life here. That doesn't say

(24:06):
run away? What does that say? That says run to America.
That doesn't say we're going to make it hard on you,
doesn't say you're breaking a law.

Speaker 2 (24:14):
It's the complete opposite of that.

Speaker 1 (24:16):
It says, run into America right now, and we will
take care of you.

Speaker 2 (24:20):
That's what it's saying. Keep listening, especially.

Speaker 5 (24:24):
Here in Pennsylvania or inundated with commercials and ads. They
just wanted to stop because it's every commercial but many
of them add noise, but a few of them seem
to break through. This particular one from the Trump campaign
has gotten a lot of attention.

Speaker 2 (24:39):
Kamala supports taxpayer funded sex changes for prisoners.

Speaker 4 (24:43):
Surgery for prisoners, every transgender the inmate in the prison
system would have access.

Speaker 5 (24:52):
So are you still in support of using taxpayer dollars
to help prison inmates or detain the illegal aliens to
transition to.

Speaker 4 (24:59):
Another gen I will follow the law, and it's a
law that Donald Trump actually followed.

Speaker 6 (25:06):
You're probably familiar with.

Speaker 4 (25:07):
Now.

Speaker 6 (25:08):
It's a public report.

Speaker 4 (25:09):
That under Donald Trump's administration, these surgeries were available to
on a medical necessity basis to people in the federal
prison system. And I think, frankly that ad from the
Trump campaign is a little bit of like throwing stones
when you're living in a glasshouse.

Speaker 5 (25:28):
The Trump aids say that he never advocated for that
prison policy and no gender transition.

Speaker 4 (25:34):
To take responsible for what happened in your administration.

Speaker 5 (25:36):
Yeah, no surgeries happened in this pregnancy. Would you still
advocate for using task payer dollars for gender reassignments?

Speaker 4 (25:43):
I will follow the law, just as I think Trump
would say he did.

Speaker 3 (25:48):
You would have to say as president, like.

Speaker 4 (25:50):
I said, I think it's real. He spent twenty million
dollars on those ads trying to create a sense of
fear in the voters because he actually has no plan
in this election that is about focusing on the needs
of the American people, whereas at twenty million dollars in
that ad on an issue that as it relates to

(26:11):
the biggest issues that affect the American people, it's really
quite remote. And again his policy was no different. Look
at where we are, though they have plans for the
American people. I'm offering a plan to deal with affordable housing.
I'm offering a plan to deal with what we need
to do to strengthen small businesses, which are the backbone
of America's economy. I am offering a plan that is

(26:33):
about taking care of young parents and giving them the
support they need. My plans for the economy will strengthen
the economy, as have been reviewed by sixteen Nobel Laureates, Goldman, Sachs, Moody's,
and recently the Wall Street Journal, which have all studied
our plans and have indicated MY plans for our economy
would strengthen our economy. His would make them weaker, with

(26:55):
ignite inflation and invite a recession by the middle of
next year.

Speaker 5 (26:59):
A fact, why do you think more people say they
trust him on the economy than they trust you.

Speaker 4 (27:04):
I think that when you look at an analysis of
our plans for what we would do as president of
the United States. It has been clear to those who
study and understand how economic policy works that moving forward
because I do believe the American people are ready to
turn the page on the divisiveness and the type of

(27:26):
rhetoric that has come out of Donald Trump. People are
ready to chart a new way forward, and they want
a president who has a plan for the future and
a plan that is sound and will strengthen our country.
My plan for the economy does exactly that. His plan
would be again to give tax cuts to billionaires and
the biggest corporations in our country and blow up our deficit.

Speaker 3 (27:48):
It's interesting you said turn the page. Man and Vice President.

Speaker 5 (27:50):
You were asked on two different shows last week, what
if anything, you would do differently than President Biden.

Speaker 3 (27:55):
Hear what you said.

Speaker 4 (27:56):
Would you have done something differently than President Biden in
the past four years? There is done a thing that
comes to mind in terms of and I've been a
part of most of the decisions that have had impact.

Speaker 3 (28:10):
Under a Harris administration. What would the major changes be
and what would stay the same? Sure?

Speaker 4 (28:17):
Well, I mean, I'm obviously not Joe Biden and so
that would be one change in terms of But also
I think it's important to say with you know, twenty
eight days ago, I'm not Donald.

Speaker 2 (28:30):
Trump, what an answer. I'm not Donald Trump. We know that.

Speaker 1 (28:35):
So what would you change policy wise? Well, I don't
look like Joe Biden, so apparently that's good enough. Right, Like,
I'm not Joe Biden, but all this policies are the same.
But I'm not Joe Biden and I'm not Donald Trump.

Speaker 2 (28:48):
So there you go. Vote for me.

Speaker 1 (28:49):
I'm Kama Harris. Like that's how dumb she thinks you are.
That's how stupid she thinks you are. I want to,
by the way, just take a pause for a second
on playing this interview, and now you understand why the
news came out that Brett Bear said, Hey, there were
four Harris staffers. They're basically jumping up and down behind

(29:12):
the camera, waving their arms with the circle, which is
when you do that, it's telling you wrap the interview, right,
wrap it up.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
Let's go wrap it up.

Speaker 1 (29:24):
The staffers were waving their arms pleading to end the
interview because the interview was going so bad, so bad
for Kamala Harris. And it's not because Brett Bear was like,
insanely tough. This is what journalists do, this is normal.
This is what Donald Trump faces every day, every single day.

(29:47):
Republicans running for office answer these types of questions. And
I would actually argue that this was an easier interview. Okay, Like,
I'm not kidding when I say that, an easier interview.
And the reason why I say easier, right, I mean truly,
the reason why I say easier interview is because, like,

(30:11):
go and watch interviews that other candidates, conservative candidates have done,
like it's tough and that's just part of life. But
Kamala Harris had not experienced any of that in this
presidential election. Like, none of it, folks, none of it.

Speaker 2 (30:28):
That is a problem.

Speaker 1 (30:30):
So when you don't ever experience a tough interview, you
don't have practice, and you're used to giving bad answers
that work. An example of a bad answer is blaming
Donald Trump for everything, right, Like that doesn't always work.
She couldn't explain her positions, she couldn't explain why she

(30:51):
made certain decisions, and then she says, well, I'm different,
I'm not Donald Trump, so that's why you should vote
for me. I don't know if that works with Americans.
Keep listening.

Speaker 5 (31:02):
So you're not Joe Biden, you're not Donald Trump, but
but nothing comes to mind that you would do differently.

Speaker 4 (31:08):
Let me be very clear, my presidency will not be
a continuation of Joe Biden's presidency.

Speaker 6 (31:14):
And like every new president.

Speaker 1 (31:16):
Brother, let's just pause there. That's that's that's that's newsworthy. Okay,
let me be clear.

Speaker 2 (31:21):
She just said it. Let me be clear. Let me
be clear.

Speaker 1 (31:26):
My presidency will not be a continuation of Joe Biden.
So it's either going to be more moderate than Joe
Biden's presidency, or it's going to be more radical and
more liberal. Which one is it? I think we know
which one it is based on her policies. What she's
saying is, let me be clear, I am going to
be more radical, right like that.

Speaker 2 (31:48):
That's that's what she's saying. I'm going to be more radical.

Speaker 1 (31:52):
I'm going to be more extreme right like that, That's
what she's saying.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
I'm not Joe Biden. I'm than Joe Biden.

Speaker 1 (32:02):
My policies are more radical than Joe Biden. I am
going to be a full blown socialist. I'm the one
that's coming in here telling you that I'm going to
do price controls. I'm going to do price controls on
groceries so that you'll have no choices on the shelves,
but at least what you do have an opportunity to buy,

(32:23):
will quote be cheaper. She's not lying to you in
that answer. What I did with Joe Biden was moderate.
What I'm about to do if I'm elected is so
extreme that grocery stores are going to close all over
the country.

Speaker 4 (32:38):
Cident that comes in to office. I will bring my
life experiences, my professional experiences, and fresh and new ideas.
I represent a new generation of leadership. I, for example,
am someone who has not spent the majority of my
career in Washington, DC. I invite ideas, whether it be
from the Republicans who are supporting me, who were just

(33:00):
on stage with me minutes ago, and the business sector
and others who can contribute to the decisions that I
make about, for example, my plan for increasing the supply
of housing in America and bringing down the cost of housing.
Addressing the issue of small businesses, which is about working
with the private sector to bring more capital and access

(33:21):
to capital to our small business leaders, including my plan
for a twenty five thousand dollars down payment assistance for
first time home buyers and for small businesses, extending the
tax deduction from five thousand dollars to fifty thousands.

Speaker 5 (33:35):
I've heard a lot about those plans in recent days.
Your campaign slogan is a new way forward, and it's
time to turn the page. You've been vice president for
three and a half years, So what are you turning
the page from.

Speaker 4 (33:48):
Well, first of all, turning the page from the last
decade in which we have been burdened with the kind
of rhetoric coming from Donald Trump that has been designed
and implemented to divide our country and have Americans literally
point fingers at each other.

Speaker 6 (34:07):
Rhetoric and an approach.

Speaker 4 (34:08):
To leadership that suggests that the strength of a leader
is based on who you beat down instead of what
we all know. The strength of leadership is based on
who you lift up. The strength of an American president,
which is one who understands that the vast majority of
us have more in common than what separates us.

Speaker 3 (34:28):
People.

Speaker 6 (34:29):
That is about.

Speaker 4 (34:29):
Turning the page on rhetoric that people are frankly exhausted
of breat.

Speaker 5 (34:33):
More than seven Petley tell the country is on the
wrong track. They say the country is on the wrong track.
If it's on the wrong track, that track follows three
and a half years of you being vice president and
President Biden being president. That is what they're saying, seventy
nine percent of them. Why are they saying that? If
you're turning the page. You've been in office for three

(34:55):
and a half.

Speaker 4 (34:55):
Years and Donald Trump has been running for.

Speaker 6 (34:59):
Office, So you've been the person.

Speaker 4 (35:03):
You and I both know what I'm talking about.

Speaker 6 (35:05):
You and I both know what.

Speaker 2 (35:06):
I'm I love this. She's like, you and I both
know what I'm talking about. Like, you know what I'm
talking about. Brett.

Speaker 1 (35:11):
You notice there she's starting to get so angry. She's yelling, right,
she's getting really irritated. And Brett Baer, by the way,
right there, didn't take the bait. He's like, I'm not
taking this bait.

Speaker 3 (35:21):
I actually don't. What are you talking about?

Speaker 4 (35:22):
What I'm talking about is that over the last decade,
people have become But listen, over the last decade, it
is clear to me and certainly the Republicans who are
on stage with me. The former chief of staff to
the President Donald Trump, the form of Defense secretaries, National

(35:43):
Security advisor and his vice president one, that he is
unfit to serve, that he is unstable, that he is dangerous,
and that people are exhausted with someone who professes to
be a leader, who spends full.

Speaker 6 (35:57):
Time demeaning and engage in.

Speaker 4 (36:00):
Personal grievances and it being about him instead of gross
American people.

Speaker 6 (36:05):
People aren't tired.

Speaker 5 (36:06):
Of this, that's the case. Why is half the country
supporting him? Why is he beating you in a lot
of swing states. Why if he's as bad as you say,
that half of this country is now supporting this person
who could be the forty seventh.

Speaker 3 (36:19):
President of the United States. Why is that happening.

Speaker 1 (36:21):
By the way, she doesn't know how to handle this
because she hasn't had to deal with it. That's why
she's getting so angry. This was what happens to a
candidate when they never have to answer tough questions.

Speaker 2 (36:36):
Keep listening.

Speaker 4 (36:37):
This is an election for president of the United States.
It's not supposed to be easy. I know, but it's
not supposed to be It is not supposed to be
a case misguided are I would never say that about
the American people. And in fact, if you listen to
Donald Trump, if you watch any of his rallies. He's
the one who tends to demean and be little and

(37:00):
diminish the American people. He's the one who talks about
an enemy within, an enemy within, talking about the American people,
suggesting he would turn the American military on the American people.

Speaker 5 (37:15):
We asked that question to the former president. Today, Harris
Faulkner had a town hall, and this is how he responded.

Speaker 8 (37:23):
I heard about that. They were saying I was like threatening.
I'm not threatening anybody. They're the ones doing the threatening.
They do phony investigations. I've been investigated more than Alphonse
Capponi was the greatest.

Speaker 3 (37:34):
Next. No, it's true.

Speaker 6 (37:35):
We don't be thinking of it. It's called the weaponization
of government.

Speaker 3 (37:38):
It's a terrible thing.

Speaker 4 (37:39):
So Brett, I'm sorry, and with all due respect, that
clip was not what he has been saying about the
enemy within. That he is repeated when he's speaking about
the American people.

Speaker 6 (37:51):
That's not what you just showed.

Speaker 3 (37:52):
He was asking.

Speaker 4 (37:53):
No, no, no, that's not what you just showed. In
all fairness and.

Speaker 3 (37:56):
Respect to you, the question that we asked him, he.

Speaker 4 (37:59):
Didn't show that. Here's the bottom line. He has repeated
it many times. And you and I both know that.
And you and I both know that he has talked
about turning the American military on the American people. He
has talked about going after people who are engaged in
peaceful protest. He has talked about locking people up because
they disagree with him. This is a democracy and an

(38:22):
inner democracy. The president of the United States, in the
United States of America should be willing to be able
to handle criticism without saying he'd lock people up for
doing it. And this is what is at stake, which
is why you have someone like the former chairman of
the Joint Chiefs of Staff saying what Mark Milly has

(38:43):
said about Donald Trump being a threat to the United
States of America.

Speaker 5 (38:50):
He's quoted in the Bob Woodward book that way. Yes,
let me ask you this matter, Vice President.

Speaker 6 (38:54):
You call Donald Trump significance, That called.

Speaker 3 (38:57):
Donald Trump he's misguided. You say, now.

Speaker 1 (39:02):
He's by the way, this is when the staff is
freaking out, inspiraling because she's now lost control. She's no
longer able to control the interview. She's extremely angry.

Speaker 2 (39:17):
Right.

Speaker 1 (39:17):
I love it this moment that she's saying that he
is unstable while literally she is losing her mind. She's angry,
she knows she's losing. In this interview, she's becoming what
you would describe as unhinged. And she's trying to tell
you while she's yelling at Brett Baer and her staff's
saying wrap up the interview that somehow Donald Trump's the

(39:40):
one that's unhinged, Like this is an amazing moment where
you understand she's had not a single tough interview because
if she had, and this is what happens when you
protect candidates. It's it's what happens when you only get
friendly questions. You don't have the pro of how to

(40:01):
deal with tough questions, and you don't know how to
take criticism.

Speaker 2 (40:04):
So what you do is you.

Speaker 1 (40:05):
Become angry, like Kamala Harris is right now, keep listening.
It doesn't get better for her.

Speaker 3 (40:10):
Well, you say he's mentally not stable. Let me ask
you this.

Speaker 5 (40:14):
And you told many interviewers that Joe Biden was on
his game, that ran around circles on his staff. When
did you first notice that President Biden's mental faculties appeared diminished?

Speaker 4 (40:27):
Joe Biden, I have watched from the Oval Office to
the situation room, and he has the judgment and the
experiment and experienced to do exactly what he has done
in making very important decisions on behalf of the American people.

Speaker 6 (40:45):
Joe Biden is.

Speaker 4 (40:46):
Not on the ballot.

Speaker 6 (40:47):
I understand Donald Trump. Donald Trump, but he talked about
it and Donald.

Speaker 5 (40:50):
Trump George Clooney said within a few minutes of talking
to President Biden at a fundraiser that he thought this
was not the same Joe Biden that we.

Speaker 6 (40:58):
Saw on the debate stage on the bout.

Speaker 5 (41:00):
I understand you met with him at least once a
week for three and a half years. You didn't have
any concerns.

Speaker 4 (41:08):
I think the American people have a concern about Donald Trump,
which is why the people who know him best, including
leaders of our national security community, have all spoken out.
Even people who worked for him in the Oval Office,
worked with him in the situation room, and have said
he is unfit and dangerous and should never be president

(41:32):
of the United States again, including his former vice president,
which is why the job was open for him to
choose another running mate.

Speaker 6 (41:42):
So that is a fact. That is a fact, Madam
Vice President.

Speaker 3 (41:50):
Two more things.

Speaker 2 (41:52):
That is a fact. Do you hear.

Speaker 1 (41:55):
HER's This is when they're saying, you've got to wrap this,
she can't answer the questions. And that's where Brett Bahar
comes in and says two more questions to final things.

Speaker 5 (42:08):
Listen, you were asked on sixty minutes about the biggest
threat the world faces that the US faces.

Speaker 3 (42:15):
This is what you said. Which foreign country do you
consider to be our greatest adversary?

Speaker 4 (42:22):
I think there's an obvious one in mind, which is Iran.
Iran has American blood on their hands. Okay, this attack
on Israel two hundred ballistic missiles. What we need to
do to ensure that Iran never achieves the ability to
be a nuclear power.

Speaker 6 (42:43):
That is one of my highest priorities.

Speaker 5 (42:45):
A number experts thought you would say China. The FBI
director had said that, but you said Iran. If that's
the case, what do you say to critics who look
at the actions of your administration and say you're not
acting like Iran is the number one threat?

Speaker 4 (43:01):
Well, I will tell you most recently, whether it was
in April or in October, in the several hours on
each occasion that Iran posed a threat to Israel, I
was there most recently in the situation room, in the
most recent attack, working with the heads of our military

(43:26):
and doing what America must always do to defend and
to support Israel in its requirement to defend itself and
to give American support to be able to allow Israel
have the resources to defend itself against attack, including from
Iran and Iran's terrorist proxies in the region. And that

(43:51):
is and my commitment to that is unyielding and unwavering.

Speaker 5 (43:57):
Critics just say that you either relaxed or failed to
to enforce sanctions on Iran, allowing all of this money
to flow into Iran.

Speaker 9 (44:04):
Like Billings, Let's go back to Donald Trump, who pulled
out of who pulled out of a deal that would
have actually put Ron in check during Donald Trump's administration, that.

Speaker 4 (44:17):
Ronen that we had an American military base that was attacked,
where American soldiers suffered traumatic brain injuries, and Donald Trump
dismissed them as headaches.

Speaker 6 (44:30):
Not to mention how.

Speaker 4 (44:31):
Donald Trump has has treated and talked about America's military
and military service people, calling them suffers and losers, has
diminished the significance of each other. I apologize, and I
would like that we would have a conversation that is
grounded in full assessment of the facts, which includes I

(44:54):
think this interview is supposed to be about the choices
that your viewers should be presented about this election, and
the contrast is important, yes, ma'am. And on the subject
of Iran, I am offering what should be an important
contrast that is presented for folks to make a decision.

Speaker 5 (45:15):
Look at what the administration did and say and think differently.

Speaker 3 (45:18):
Man a vice president, they're wrapping me very hard here.
I hope you.

Speaker 5 (45:22):
Got to say what you wanted to say about Donald Trump.
There are a lot of things. There are a lot
of things that people want to learn about you and
your policies, and that's why I invited.

Speaker 4 (45:33):
Everyone to go to Kamala Harris dot com and you
will see that I have eighty pages of policies that
are quite comprehensive and should be accessible to anyone who
would like to read them. And it includes what I
intend to do about affordable housing, what I intend to
do about small businesses, what I do.

Speaker 3 (45:52):
And that's why in our to see where you were
in twenty nineteen.

Speaker 4 (45:55):
And where you are now, America's military ustrure. We have
the most lethal and best fighting force in the world.

Speaker 3 (46:02):
Mon a vice president and giving me a hard rat.

Speaker 4 (46:04):
Well, I thank you for the time.

Speaker 3 (46:05):
Thank you for the time, Thank you very much, thank you.

Speaker 1 (46:09):
Kamala Harris campaign describing this interview as a quote ambush.
Kamala Harris's senior campaign advisor complained that this interview with
Harris was quote an ambush after Brett bayrypeatedly press Harris
to directly answer questions. Former President Barack Obama's campaign mastermind,

(46:32):
who joined Harris's presidential campaign in August, made the charge
after a half hour interview in which Harris seemed to
grow frustrated after being unable to answer Bear's questions about
her record. Kamala Harris handled an ambush Fox interview light
years better than the hash the hash Donald Trump Unstable

(46:54):
made of the Fox interview and they disguised as a
town hall that that's what he said about this interview ambush.
So answering tough questions while you're running for president, that
no one has voted for you, by the way, and
that you just walked into is now described by her
campaign as an ambush.

Speaker 2 (47:15):
Let that sink in
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