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Speaker 1 (00:01):
So if it wasn't enough for the Harris campaign to
insult literally half the country saying that we're floating garbage,
apparently in the closing five days of the campaign they
think it is a good idea to also insult all
women that are voting for Trump. Around Trump, anyone he's

(00:22):
ever spent time with, anyone, He's ever broken bread with, anyone,
he's ever worked on legislation with any victims or mothers
that he's set down with, angel parents who had loved
ones have been killed, for example, by illegal immigrants. Mark
Cuban coming out and saying this about supporters of Donald Trump.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
Donald Trump, you never see him around strong intelligent women ever.
It's just that simple. They're intimidating to him. He doesn't
like to be challenged by them.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
These comments were made on the View, and the host
of the View absolutely agreed with these comments. You could
hear Whoopi Goldberg and other voices in the background. Now,
I'm going to bring on a dear friend of mine,
one of my best friends in the business, Meghan McCain,
who used to be at the View. I want to
get her take on this, and also, why are these

(01:16):
comments about women so important? Now, well, we are finding
out through data that women are dominating early voting.

Speaker 3 (01:23):
Across the country.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
This makes some conservatives very nervous because there is a
idea out there that maybe this is all about the
abortion issue and women are showing up, or could it
be something else completely different, that women are voting for
Donald Trump because they're sick and tired of struggling in
the economy we're in. I'm gonna ask Megan McCain about
that in a moment, but first let me tell you

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and I immediately called one of my best friends in
the business, Megan McCain, and I said, Megan, can I
bother you?

Speaker 3 (03:28):
And she said yes, which is a blessing.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
And she said when I said, like right now, and
she said perfect. So, Megan, thank you for being in
the audible game. I appreciate it, and I want to
get your reaction. I'm going to play this again for
everyone right now that's listening Mark Cuban's words on the View.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
Donald Trump, you never see him around strong intelligent women ever.
It's just that simple. They're intimidating to him. He doesn't
like to be challenged by them.

Speaker 1 (03:59):
You insult all all the Trump supporters a few days ago,
and now you're saragate, your top sarrogate.

Speaker 3 (04:04):
Mark Cuban's out there insulting all women.

Speaker 4 (04:06):
Your reaction, well, my first first ball, thank you for
having me on. I will come on anytime, Rainer sign
any point. I love you, Thank you for having me on.
A very good friend. My first thought was one of
the co hosts of the View got her notoriety because
she worked for Trump. So is she unintelligent? And are
they admitting that one of their hosts are unintelligent? That

(04:27):
was my very first reaction, Like I don't understand that,
and also why the host is being insulted, isn't standing
up for herself? Like that's just very like Macro on
the micro you know, I don't understand why the Democrats
hadn't learned their lessons from twenty sixteen by calling fifty
percent of the country to plora bulls or garbage, or
all women who vote for Trump are stupid idiots. Let

(04:49):
me tell you someone who's very close with Trump and
been on the road with him for months now is
my dear friend Telsea Gabbert, who I just saw last
Saturday at an event that we both did to keep
then at a women's sports and she was going straight
to Madison Square Garden to open up for a President Trump.
She's a veteran, she's highly accomplished, you know, congresswoman and

(05:10):
presidential candidate, and easily one of the strongest, most, you know,
intelligent women I've ever met in my entire life, and
I love her dearly like she's stupid, No person would
call her stupid. You may disagree with her politics, but
she's not stupid, and she's not someone who doesn't challenge people.
I think we can safely say.

Speaker 1 (05:26):
That well, and people don't realize she just switched to
the Republican Party. So the question then becomes, Megan, if
you're a woman that's a Republican, are you then on
intelligent and stupid, just like everybody is garbage.

Speaker 3 (05:38):
Apparently that is a Republican.

Speaker 4 (05:40):
I mean, I don't understand how people like Mark Cuban
have never met a Republican woman before. I always thought
that like you and me and like a few of
our friends should like start this service where people in
Hollywood and entertainment and whatever else who's never met a
Republican like, actually just interact with one and here a conversation,
because but how siloed are you? You've never met a

(06:02):
conservative woman? He's also calling me them, I mean not
to like whatever, but I'm a five time New York
Times bestselling author, I'm an Emmy winner, I'm an idiot,
Like really, okay, I mean it's just, you know, it's
wildly insulting. It's also wildly I think, just ignorant to
their reasons why people are voting for Trump. As you know,
like if no one you know knows anything about me,
you knows that're like, I'm no big fan of Trump,

(06:24):
but people vote for him for a lot of different reasons.
You know, being pro life is the number one issue
for a lot of people. This like absolutely dog garbage.
Economy is a big issue for people, and like President Harris,
has not made a case for herself so far that
I have found sufficient or adequate for anyone to vote
for her A great example issue. Or is she not

(06:45):
for taxpayers paying for transgendered illegal immigrants to get surgery
in jail? Yes?

Speaker 5 (06:50):
Or no.

Speaker 4 (06:50):
I watched the entire Breadbar interview. I have no idea,
absolutely no idea, and that to me is not a
competent person to be in a White House. So you know,
I think it's just another air or like another unenforced
error that will when we reflect on this election that
it's very looking, very highly like Trump will wins. You know,
these are lessons Democrats keep not learning and errors they

(07:13):
continue to make over and over again. Call conservative women
dumb at your own peril. My friend Hillary Clinton did
the same thing. We see how that played out.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
You know, the women are dominating early voting across the country,
and there are some conservative allies of mine that are
very nervous about this. With just five days left, they're saying,
and we're seeing more women have also voted in early
voting states than I think ever before. Women have outpaced
men when it comes early voting, which may be a

(07:42):
sign of what some are saying on TV right now
is oh big trouble for Donald Trump's presidential campaign with
less than five days left until election day. This is
also shocking because you've worked, You've been on presidential campaigns
before your dad's. Apparently, at the five day mark, more
than sixty million Americans have already cast their ballots. According

(08:02):
to the University of Forida's Election lab, women are making
up fifty four percent of that number, while men are
making up forty four percent of that number. And several
swing states are seeing a similar ten percent difference between
the genders when it comes to who is early voted.
Pennsylvania swing state, Michigan swing state, Georgia now a swing

(08:24):
state I think, and North Carolina you're seeing a ten
percent difference between women showing up in men women showing
up in higher numbers. Now here's the question that I have.
It's if you listen to the media, they will tell
you that women are showing up because of the abortion
issue and the obsession over Roe v.

Speaker 3 (08:41):
Wade.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
Then the other argument I would make is there's a
lot of women right now that are suffering living paycheck
to paycheck and they're scadtires saying no to their kids
on everything because of finances, and they're showing up because
they're hurting Megan.

Speaker 3 (08:57):
There's two thoughts here.

Speaker 1 (08:58):
If you want to scare people on the left, there
saying oh, this is proof that women are showing up,
they're voting on the abortion issue, abortion on demand.

Speaker 3 (09:05):
I'm not so sure that's accurate.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
I think there could be a lot of women voting
early because they're sick and tired of saying no to
their kids because of financial reasons. And there's nothing worse
to parent having to tell your kid no because you
can't afford your life right now.

Speaker 3 (09:19):
I think this could be more about the economy.

Speaker 1 (09:22):
You, as a mom and as a woman talking to
women a lot on your show, what do you think?

Speaker 4 (09:26):
Yeah, I mean, look, there's definitely a certain segment of
the population that of progressive women that abortion is the
only thing that matter, isn't the only thing they vote on.
I personally don't know anyone like that, but I know
that it does exist. I think women are very I
always say like election issues are just women's issues. Women
care about the economy and the border and national security,

(09:46):
and I think just for me, anecdotally, I have seen
the difference in going to the grocery store for me
and my kids and my family this year versus when
Trump was in office, and what a big difference it makes.
I've seen interest rates. I've seen the interest rates on houses.
I mean, you know, everyone knows that the economy right
now is in a pretty awful place, and I think

(10:07):
a lot of people just want change. And I think
I wouldn't if we go from like data from elections pass,
particularly in twenty sixteen, there's a lot of women who
are shy Trump voters who are not going to be
like wearing MAGA hats and broadcasting it and screaming about it.
They're going to vote for him privately and quietly. And
I would never make the assumption that just because women
are out voting it means that she's winning. He's like,

(10:28):
absolutely ridiculous the idea that all women are just going
to vote for her. It's a very ignorant, I think
misreading of what women are in America.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
I also think that they are just it's to put
women in one category, with abortion being the all Like
I understand that feminists and a lot of women on
the issue of abortion this is the obsession issue, but
they were going to vote anyway. I just have a
hard time believing that. So there's a lot of women
in this country that are, you know, working hard, or

(10:58):
their husbands are working hard, or they're paid check to paycheck,
and with this economy that they're sitting there and they're
putting abortion above all the reality of inflation. I think
it's the economy stupid, that's this election.

Speaker 4 (11:11):
No, I totally agree, and I think, you know, we
all just wanted to stop. I mean, you know, when
you're paying like nine dollars for a carton of eggs.
If you see one of my friends, I've posted this
in the summertime sent me a receipt of her order
from Walmart that she did for the fourth of July
in twenty twenty versus this summer, and the difference is

(11:32):
like three or four hundred dollars for the exact same stuff.
And I just think people are sick of that, Like
they're sick of paying more for nothing and then being
told by democrats and power that nothing's wrong and that
everything's fine. And you know, there are some jobs numbers
that seem somewhat okay, but it doesn't matter if there

(11:52):
are more jobs, if you're paying extra for all the
normal things that we all just have to you know,
have to live. I don't know. I just I always
find I always find conversations about women in general from
the media to be very myopic. And again, it's just
going back to the original point of this conversation. People
like Mark Cuban, people who host Morning Joe, they do

(12:14):
not interact and act with women like me, ever, and
they sure as hell don't interact with women who make
less than one hundred thousand dollars a year who are
hardcore conservatives. It's not something that exists in the world.
So you can't report on this and talk about this
unless you're living in reality. And I just think you
should listen to people like Selena Zito who are doing
real reporting on the road, and she's saying that there's
so many women that she speaks to every single day

(12:37):
in rural Pennsylvania who literally are putting on the economy
and the economy only and they don't care if President
Trump says the most offensive things you can possibly think
possible on stage. They just want to pay less for groceries.

Speaker 1 (12:48):
You mentioned Tulca Gabbert and she's now come out. Not
only has she come out in swit's the Republican Party,
but she's endorsing Donald Trump. She's one of your best friends,
and you guys spend a lot of time together. You
also are someone that has been very outspoken against Donald
Trump as well as a Republican woman.

Speaker 3 (13:07):
You're obviously Republican.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
This is why I love you and I being friends
because we can agree to disagree on multiple things, and
you and I have had vigorous conversations about it. I
want your opinion at this moment in the campaign seeing
what Harris has done, you know, them calling the fifty
percent of the country garbage? Does that change women voters

(13:30):
who maybe weren't on the Trump train, maybe they're not
Maga voters, but they're sitting there going okay. I like
how Donald Trump is acting now a little bit differently.
I'll give you an example of this. I listened to
the six minutes when he responded his campaign rally about
his supporters being garbage, and two or three years ago,

(13:51):
I think you would have been brimstone and fire. He
was actually pretty chill and laughing and just kind of saying,
this is where we are and this is what she thinks.

Speaker 3 (14:01):
Of us, and this is who she is.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
Go vote if you want, if you want your opinion
to matter, but if you think she's going to help
you in this country, she's not. I actually thought it
was a very different Donald Trump. I think he's a
lot different since the first assassination attempt on his life.

Speaker 4 (14:16):
Your thoughts, Yeah, I mean, I definitely agree. He could
have gone a lot harder, and he certainly has done
a lot harder at things in the past. This is
this is a confusing one for me because you know,
I'm not someone who is already a Trump supporter. I'm
the normy vote, the like around four fourteen percent of
the country who doesn't like either candidate. It's a very

(14:36):
tiny minority. And I joked that we're like the resistance
people in the matrix that are living underground, like there's
not a lot of us left. But I will say
that when it comes to the Trump campaign, there have
been a lot of things that he's done that I
was really impressed by, and I thought he did you
know that for an example, like how he responded to
Vice President Harris. He's ran a very disciplined campaign. The

(14:58):
one thing that I agree with making Kelly on which
she said two days ago, is that his engagement at
Madison's a square garden, and a lot of the media
has been doing has been very, very, very BROI how
many times can we go on Joe Rogan and Diovan
And again, that's great for a base of voters that
you have wrapped up in a beautiful bow.

Speaker 6 (15:18):
But I would have.

Speaker 4 (15:18):
Loved to have him seen him take Alex Cooper call
her daddy up on her offers goal on her show.
I would have loved to see Dadie Vance go on
you know, a female podcaster show. I don't think there
was as much reaching out to sort of like the
independent suburban moms as I would have liked if they
were listening to me on the campaign. But that being said,
I don't know if it really matters when you're paying

(15:40):
twenty five percent more for groceries. I don't know how
much these things actually matter anymore other than like the
state of the world. But if it comes out that
he does lose and it's in part because of women,
I do think they could have done more to reach
out to female voters that I do think are actually
very receptive to voting for Trump.

Speaker 7 (15:59):
This time.

Speaker 1 (16:00):
Your podcast is a little bit different than mine. You
talk pop culture, you talk things like Bravo, you talk
women's issues. When you look at this election, what is
it that your listeners are saying five days out, four
days out from election day? Because obviously your focus now,
I would assume is more on the election.

Speaker 4 (16:20):
They're very upset about the garbage comments so far, like
just anecdotally that they want the election to be over
in general, because this is obviously I think the election
cycle is just too long and it's just really exhausting
for people, and neighbors are fighting, and that a lot
of people are voting for Trump, you know, begrudgingly, like
they don't want do what they're doing. And I have

(16:41):
a lot of people who are writing in RFK or
voting for RFK. That has been more surprising for me.
I think that more has to do with sort of
his take on health and vaccines. That's been something like
I know moms in particular in the country have responded
very intensely too, in like a post COVID world. And
then you know there's some that are voting for her,
not I wouldn't say lots, probably about I don't know

(17:01):
fifteen percent of the audience, but there are some that
are voting for her. I still think he's going to win,
just because of all the momentum, and I just think
there's a lot of I don't know how you make
up the deficit if he even makes like three percent
more with the black vote in like a few small
counties in Pennsylvania and Ohio. Like, I just don't understand

(17:22):
how if he is going to make up the deficit
with Hispanic voters and Black voters that she's losing according
to like very recent polling. I just don't think there's
enough you know, progressive women on planet Earth to get
her into the White House. Do you agree?

Speaker 3 (17:36):
I look, I think it's turning that way as well.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
But I love hearing your perspective because you're talking to
a different audience than I am. And but that's how
I'm reading the room as well. Megan as always, thank
you for coming on. I'm going to bother you maybe
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Speaker 3 (20:05):
Now.

Speaker 1 (20:06):
I want to go back real quick to just the
Mark Cuban aspect of this and one of my other
dear friends, Kaylee Mcanannie. She's one of the hosts on
Fox News Outnumbered. She had this to say about Mark
Cuban's comments today, that show obviously is for women. On
a show, there's a man that's outnumbered in the middle,

(20:28):
and I want you to hear her opening remarks after
they play a clip of Mark Cuban.

Speaker 3 (20:33):
You'll hear Cuban first, listen.

Speaker 2 (20:34):
Donald Trump you never see him around strong, intelligent women ever.
It's just that simple. They're intimidating to him. He doesn't
like to be challenged by them.

Speaker 8 (20:48):
Kaylee, Mark Cuban, Okay, I had to take a breath
before this because this is so profoundly offensive. I worked
for Donald Trump. I consider myself a strong woman. Are
those around me strong women? Kelly and Conway, Brooke Rowlins,
Avanka Trump, Hope Hicks, Sarah Sander, Nicki Haley who still

(21:09):
supports him, like Amy Cony Barrett, who he put on
the Supreme Court, or the women currently around him. Susie
Wiles comes to mind, Caroline Levitt. That is so offensive,
and you know why because it's not just about the
women who worked for him. He said the women around
Donald Trump. This comes right after the Joe Biden garbage comment. Okay,
the women around Donald Trump? What about the women who
vote for Donald Trump? Are they weak? Are they dumb?

(21:31):
Did Mark Cuban just insult any woman who supports Donald Trump?
Because it's a little, very small step from that, and
this is an official Biden Excuse me, Harris campaign surrogate,
Mark Cuban, that is misogynistic in my view. Get out
of here, Mark Cuban. Kamala Harris, he's your surrogate. I
want to hear from you. Do you agree the women
are weak and ineffective? Whatever he said, get out of here,

(21:52):
and I can't wait to hear from.

Speaker 9 (21:53):
You, Kamala.

Speaker 1 (21:54):
Kamala, by the way, you know won't touch this with
a ten foot pole, and she will not have to
based on what we know from the mainstream media. Now,
is there a world where she could possibly have to
answer for this?

Speaker 3 (22:05):
Maybe? Right, right, maybe maybe?

Speaker 1 (22:09):
Kama Harris was doing a NBC News exclusive right she
was asked a question about the garbage comments on NBC News.
It was a Harris one on one with NBC News
in Arizona. I state that she needs to win. Here's
what she said on the garbage comments.

Speaker 10 (22:27):
Former President Trump also wrote around in a garbage truck
to call attention to President Biden's comments about his supporters
and their rhetoric. Are you concerned that President Biden's comments
might undermine your own messaging that you want to be
a president for all Americans.

Speaker 5 (22:41):
Well, I've addressed how I feel about those comments, one
that the President explained what he meant.

Speaker 7 (22:48):
But two, I do not believe, and I will.

Speaker 5 (22:50):
Speak for myself, that we should ever criticize people based
on who they vote for. But let's understand again where
we are in this election. On the one and you
have Donald Trump, who refers to people by the most
demeaning words, who attempts to really to take from them
the dignity that.

Speaker 7 (23:09):
They so rightly deserve.

Speaker 5 (23:11):
He is someone who talks full time about the enemy within.
He speaks ill of America, He refers to us as
a garbage can, and he does not understand that most
people are exhausted with his rhetoric, exhausted with that approach,
exhausted with an approach that Donald Trump has that's trying
to divide our country and have Americans point fingers at

(23:31):
each other. They're done with it, and they're ready to
turn the page and accept and receive a new generation
of leadership, which I offer.

Speaker 11 (23:37):
As he and his supporters grab onto that language. Though
from President Biden, you're not at all concerned that might
undermine your messaging, I.

Speaker 5 (23:45):
Am very clear that in this election, what the American
people want most is to know that I have a plan,
that we have a plan to bring down the cost
of living and invest in American families, invest in small businesses, invest.

Speaker 7 (23:59):
In our economy.

Speaker 5 (24:00):
I am proud that I have the support of leading
economist in our nation who recognize that I actually have
a specific plan and that it will strengthen America's economy.
He has very little of a plan besides giving tax
breaks to the richest people, and his plan.

Speaker 7 (24:14):
Whatever it may be, will actually weaken on I've talked
to her.

Speaker 1 (24:18):
You listen to how she didn't really answer the question.
You notice that she didn't apologize. You notice that she
really didn't distance herself. I have addressed how I feel
about those comments, like enough said, I don't have to
answer any more questions. I'm Kamala Harris. And then she
immediately moves on to more of her rhetoric of We're

(24:42):
just going to win this thing, right, We're just going
to win this thing. And she was asked a question
what keeps you up at night? I want you to
hear this BS answer.

Speaker 11 (24:53):
Former First Lady Michelle Obama says she stays up at
night wondering why this election is so close?

Speaker 7 (24:58):
Do you do that?

Speaker 3 (24:59):
What keeps you night?

Speaker 5 (25:01):
What keeps me up that night are the challenges that
face the American family and my role and responsibility in
my to do list to address those issues, whether it
be on bringing down the cost of groceries, bringing down
the cost of housing, what we need to do to
make sure childcare is affordable for working families, what I
will do to make sure that Medicare covers in home

(25:23):
care for seniors.

Speaker 7 (25:24):
Those are the things that keep me up, which is doing.

Speaker 5 (25:27):
The work that will directly impact the people of America.
And this again is a big contrast between me and
Donald Trump.

Speaker 7 (25:33):
He spends full time.

Speaker 5 (25:35):
Talking about himself, his personal grievances, his enemies list. On
day one, I will walk into the Oval office with
my to do list, which is about helping the American
people deal with their challenges and also tap into their
ambitions and.

Speaker 1 (25:50):
Dream ambitions, dreams. Bunch of generalities, nothing really there that
is concrete. Now, if you want to vote for that,
you're going to get more of the same. That's what
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Speaker 3 (27:23):
Now he's got all the women out attacking other women.

Speaker 1 (27:26):
Elizabeth Warren, Trump is showing us what a serial abuser does.
That's what she said on MSNBC, just hours after they
referred to women as being dumb and stupid that vote
for Trump. Christy Nome coming out doing an interview on
Mark Cuban, she's South Dakota governor.

Speaker 3 (27:43):
Here's what she said.

Speaker 6 (27:45):
You know, you sort of alluded to the elitism that
really is coming through.

Speaker 3 (27:48):
On the Democratic side.

Speaker 6 (27:49):
In fact, I know, Governor, you're taking issue with those
remarks from Harris Sarah get Mark Cuban on the View
today that President Trump on paraphrasing he's never seen him
around wrong intelligent women. You've got to wonder what his
classification is for strong and intelligent, because a lot of
women are obviously going to take offense with that.

Speaker 9 (28:09):
Oh absolutely, you know, I rarely get offended because I
recognize that politics is a full combat sport at some times.
But the fact that I immediately thought of Milania, I
immediately thought of Ivanka and all, and you know the
people that he had in leadership positions in the White
House when he served Sara Huckabee Sanders as his press secretary.

(28:31):
He just elevated women all the time and has always
given me the opportunity to pick up the phone, call him,
walk into a meeting with him and listen and to hear,
and to give us the opportunities to do our jobs
the best that we possibly can to our ability. So
I you know, I could tell from that video of
Mark Cuban he was emotional, and I think the reason
he's emotional is because he's panicking.

Speaker 7 (28:52):
He just cannot.

Speaker 9 (28:53):
Believe that they are doing so poorly out there campaigning
that they can't pull one over the American people's eyes
and try to get Harris into the White House. They're
just not going to because we see that everything that
she's been campaigning on is fake and a lie, and
that's not what the American people want anymore.

Speaker 1 (29:11):
By the way, there's two things here with Mark Cuban.
I said this on an earlier show, and I'll say
it again quickly. Mark Cuban is a guy that clearly
has been given, okay, some sort of significant position in
a Harris administration, and that's the deal, and it's something

(29:31):
he can't buy. So he's out there on the campaign trail.
He's out there, you know, stumping for her. There's something
he wants there. And look at billionaires like to get
into politics because it's one thing that you can't really
buy the power, and that's clearly Cuban's board. He's given
up Shark Tank, for example, and this is his next thing.
I'll be in an administration and I'll run something right,

(29:54):
And I'm sure Harris has offered him something. That's my opinion,
that's what I believe. But then there's also another factor here.
I think Mark Cuban has always been like such a
big deal for so long, whether it be with the
MAVs or with Shark Tank or whatever. That I think
he thought, I can come in this race and I'll
go toe to toe with Donald Trump as a surrogate
and I'll just beat Trump.

Speaker 3 (30:15):
And it's not that simple.

Speaker 1 (30:18):
And so I do think that's part of the reason
why he said what he just said. It's the same
reason why they're calling us garbage, because he's realizing now
that all, yes, he is famous. Okay, I will I
will never take that away from him. He is famous,
But just because you're famous doesn't mean that the American
people will follow you on election day.

Speaker 3 (30:42):
That is not what's happening here.

Speaker 1 (30:46):
And and that is the part that you got to
kind of laugh at is these guys, you know, they
they walk in, They're like, oh, I got this thing.

Speaker 3 (30:53):
Watch this. Watch what I'm about to pull off?

Speaker 1 (30:55):
Right Like watch, watch, watch how I walk in and
change this election.

Speaker 3 (31:00):
And then all of a sudden he's like.

Speaker 1 (31:01):
Wait, no one's changing anything, Like nothing's changing at all. Wait,
I might be involved in politics for the first time
in my life publicly, and I'm out there being a surrogate,
and I might lose. Like there's an ego factor there
for him as well. I mean there's a pretty big
ego factor there. And so I think part of it

(31:22):
is actually this that he is so afraid that he's
about to screw this thing up or that he will
not he'll realize. And I go back to Taylor Swift.
You know, Taylor Swift comes out indorses. She also got
involved in Tennessee politics, going against Marshall Blackburn the center there.
It didn't work, and she's involved this time and so far,

(31:45):
it hasn't had that big.

Speaker 3 (31:46):
Of an impact.

Speaker 1 (31:48):
She's the most famous person you could argue maybe in
the world at pop star, and she endorsed Harris. Hasn't
made an impact. Beyonce's another example. Has it really had
an impact? Mark Cuban's out there spending his time and
energy on a campaign trail.

Speaker 3 (32:02):
He's invested in it.

Speaker 1 (32:05):
But if it doesn't have an impact, then maybe you're
just famous and no one cares what you think about politics.

Speaker 3 (32:11):
There is a real aspect of that.

Speaker 1 (32:15):
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