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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Eight men, all migrants, have been arrested for allegedly looting
and burglarizing flood ravage victims in eastern Tennessee. All eight men,
all migrants, were arrested for looting and burglarizing victims. The
suspects were arrested in Washington County, Tennessee, on September the

(00:22):
twenty ninth, on suspension of burglary and or aggravated burglary.
All of the individuals, Yes, looks like they are illegal
immigrants who are seeing an opportunity here to take from
those that are suffering. And those are the people that
Kamala Harris and Joe Biden have let into this country.

(00:43):
And I go back to what I said earlier. They
don't care if you are in a state that won't
vote for them, or they believe is not going to
vote for them, then screw you.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
And oh, by the way, yeah we sure did. We
brought in.

Speaker 1 (00:58):
A whole bunch, a whole bunch of illegal immigrants, and yeah,
they're going to steal from you when they have an.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
Opportunity to do it. To fall out from something that JD.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
Vance said that the left is really upset about. And
he said, and they were trying to turn into like, oh,
you're a racist because he said, well, you let twenty
million American or legal immigrants come into America, what the
hell do you think was going to happen?

Speaker 2 (01:22):
We're going to have higher home prices.

Speaker 1 (01:25):
And they immediately were like, that's not true, that's not true.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
Right, it is true. We know it's true.

Speaker 3 (01:31):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:31):
Tim Waltz is out there saying in these one on
one interviews, Oh, we're going to make housing more affordable
again without a plan, but he keeps saying it over
and over again.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
Apparently everybody believes him.

Speaker 4 (01:40):
We're here in Asheville. This is one area of the
state where we've seen housing prices skyrocket. Here, there's very
little affordable housing. It's the story you see time and again.
How do you think your plan can help?

Speaker 5 (01:52):
Well, first of all, the Vice President's plan starts by
that this shortage of housing units in general is three
million new unit and she understands this is making sure
that we're not seeing banks by these things up keep
money inventory, and then that down payment assistance for me,
I use the GI bill. I think she's talking about
making sure you tax credits, that we're able to make
sure people have the money to go forward.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
I love this.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
So they say, well, we just seed a bunch more houses,
and we're gonna give you money to do it, right.
And so then they came out with this plan. They're like,
all right, we're just gonna give you like twenty five
thousand dollars. Kama Harrison a big, big one on one
exclusive with MSNBC with this type of propaganda, and she said, well,
we're gonna housing more affordable, right, and we're gonna we're

(02:34):
gonna make sure they're not price gouging you.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
And they blame everybody.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
They blame the boogeyman, the evil big banks, the private investors, right.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
And so then they.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
Come out they're like, God, we're gonna give you money
for houses, right, Like we're gonna we're gonna give you
a bunch of cash. We're gonna give you twenty five
thousand highest bidder if that's what you want, We're gonna
we're gonna we're gonna give you, you know, twenty five
thousand and and and that's gonna, you know, fix your problem. Well,
every economist came out like, if you give a twenty
five thousand dollars check first time home buyers, that's going

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to happen. The price of every home in America is
just going to go up. Like everybody knows this, it's
basic economics. And you have this idea now that oh, well,
we're just gonna, you know, randomly build a bunch of
houses that the government's going to subsidize, and that's somehow
going to fix the problem. Harris is going to kill housing,

(03:28):
is what the experts have said. They're going to kill housing.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
Now.

Speaker 1 (03:33):
Not only are they going to kill it with they're planned,
but they're killing the American dream of owning a house
because of all the illegal immigrants they've led into this country.
And during the debate, they're like, well, that's not true.

Speaker 6 (03:42):
And J. D.

Speaker 1 (03:43):
Vance wrote back pretty quickly right the to the biased
people he's talking to. He was like, hold on a second, Well,
we'll put it up online. We'll stick the facts out there.
If you think that illegal immigrants aren't rising the prices
of home and rent, you're insane. And guess what the
fact show you guessed it. That's exactly what's happening, all right.
So before I get back to the busted fact check

(04:06):
on the lie that was told during the debate that
illegal immigrants are not causing the prices of housing and
rent to go up. Let's just also hammer down on
this twenty five thousand dollars that she just randomly says
is like magic money that she's going to give out
to everybody that wants to buy a house.

Speaker 2 (04:25):
It's never going to happen.

Speaker 1 (04:26):
Number one, and number two, it is not going to
lower the price of housing or make housing more affordable,
which is what she's claiming. It's just going to make
the price of every house cup twenty five grand. Because
everybody knows, well, you got the twenty five grand. The
government just gave it to you, which means the taxpayers
we are subsidizing everybody else's house.

Speaker 7 (04:42):
Listen, I want to talk about Harris's Kamala Harris's economic plan.
You've got a tweet out there saying that Harris is
either financially illiterate, incompetent, or she believes her voters are.
You really don't like her plan? Do your grant no,
because I know it won't work.

Speaker 6 (04:58):
Okay, she's going to to kill housing, Okay, Like I
don't know why she's I guess I understand why she's
not giving people like you a moment to ask her
a question, why would you want to build or three
million homes when you know your four point two million
home shark? Why would you want to give a twenty
five thousand dollars first time tax credit or buyer's credit
when you know that's going to inflate housing? Okay, martgage

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applications had a spike this weekend, we're still lower than
two thousand, two thousand and eight twenty ten, literally the
lowest levels in twenty four years of martgage applications. The
housing market is getting slaughtered and nobody's talking about it.
And if she thinks twenty five thousand dollars is going
to somehow, you know, relieve the system, she's crazy.

Speaker 8 (05:41):
So she's either lying to.

Speaker 6 (05:42):
The public or worse, she doesn't know what she's talking about,
or her her team doesn't.

Speaker 9 (05:48):
Now now, I know, Mark Cuban's a huge fan of hers.
Right now, he's at a pimping like every minute of every day.
But and Mark knows a lot about a lot of things.
But housing is not going to get fixed. Because she
promises to.

Speaker 6 (06:01):
Build three million homes, she doesn't even know what it
would cost, how long it would take, who would build them,
who would get the homes.

Speaker 8 (06:07):
And by the way, it's six percent interest.

Speaker 6 (06:10):
You can't afford a loon anyway, because the interests alone
is two thousand dollars a month.

Speaker 1 (06:16):
Grant caught on the interest alone is two thousand dollars
a month. So this idea that I'm just going to
hand out twenty five k and it's going to fix
the problem, and you're going to build three million homes. Now,
in my lifetime, we've never had a conversation about building
three million homes. Like, that's never been a conversation. And
I think the real reason why we've never had that

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conversation is because we've never had to deal with the
possibility of being three million homes too short, right, Like,
we've never had to have that conversation. Why are we
even having the conversation. It goes back to what jd
Vance said, and it's the fact that we have a
housing crisis in this country because we have an immigration

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crisis that is skyrocke at the cost of rent and homes.
So called policy experts quote unquote at the libertarian Kiddo Institute,
known for its defense of open borders, are admitting now
that center jd Vance is correct when he says immigration
increases increases housing prices for Americans. We don't want to

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want to blame immigrants for higher housing prices, but we
do want to blame Kamala Harris for letting in millions
of illegal aliens in this country, which does drive up costs.
Vance said it Tuesday Evening's vice president of Debate. Twenty
five million illegal aliens are competing with Americans for houses
for homes, and it's one of the most significant drivers

(07:44):
of home prices in the country. It's why we have
massive increases in home prices and have happened right alongside
massive increases in illegal alien populations under Kamla Harris's leadership. Also,
you want to know where home prices of skyrocket the
most and heavily populated areas where illegal immigrants are living. Yes,

(08:05):
that is the truth. So when JD. Vance said what
he said, he wasn't lying. He was speaking truth to power,
which is exactly why they hated what he said.

Speaker 8 (08:14):
Tim just said something that I agree with.

Speaker 10 (08:16):
We don't want to blame immigrants for higher housing prices,
but we do want to blame Kamala Harris for letting
in millions of illegal aliens into this country, which does
drive up cost him twenty five million Illegal aliens competing
with Americans for scarce homes is one of the most
significant drivers of home prices in the country. It's why
we have massive increases in home prices that have happened

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right alongside massive increases in illegal alien populations under Kamala
Harris's leadership. Now, Tim just mentioned a bunch of ideas. Now,
some of those ideas actually think are halfway decent, and
some of them I disagree with. But the most important
thing here is Kamala Harris is not running as a
newcomer to politics.

Speaker 8 (08:57):
She is the sitting vice president.

Speaker 10 (08:59):
Is she wants to enact all of these policies to
make housing more affordable. I invite her to use the
office that the American people already gave her, not sit
around and campaign and do nothing while Americans find the
American dream of home ownership completely unaffordable.

Speaker 1 (09:16):
One of the reasons why I think this moment was
so effective for him is because if you were listening
and you're looking at buying a house, or you're looking
to rent, or you decided not to buy a house,
is because you understood what he was saying there.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
Jd Vance is correct.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
Immigration increases housing prices, and that's just the truth. It's
okay to admit that, but the media doesn't want to
talk about that. The intersection of supply and demand determines
housing prices, like all prices.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
Quote.

Speaker 1 (09:44):
When housing supply curves are upward sloping, increase demand from
immigrants will increase housing prices. Immigrants are people who want
to roof over their heads, after all. So when you're
going to the market to rent or buy, does the
market care if you're an illegal or not? The answer
is no, it doesn't matter. Bringing the discussion back to

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Springfield and Ohio, where Van started, housing prices have increased
there as more Haitian migrants have moved in. According to Redfin,
the medium sale price of a single family hold sold
there has increased from seventy eight thousand, five hundred dollars
in August of twenty nineteen to one hundred and fifty

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eight thousand in August of twenty twenty four. That is
a one hundred and one percent increase in nominal terms.
By the way, the nationwide increase was forty six percent
in nominal terms during the same period, and what happened
during that period, a massive influx and illegal immigrants by

(10:47):
the millions coming across the Southern border that has made
renters and first time home buyers worse off than Springfield
and homeowners who are mostly native born quote that are off.
At a recent House Oversight Committee hearing, the Center for
Immigration Studies director point increase in the recent immigrant share

(11:09):
of a metro area's population is associated with a twelve
percent increase in the average US born household rent relative
to their income. What did they note, The high levels
of immigration particularly increase rents. Adding this, very large numbers
of people added to the country are significantly impacting housing

(11:33):
prices by driving up demand for rental properties. The Census
Bureau reports of the increase in rents in twenty twenty
three was by far the largest and the past decade.
And what happened during that period of time we had
the largest increase of immigrants, illegal immigrants coming across the
southern border. And the fact that the media even tried

(11:53):
to argue with him over this is insane. Governor Well,
it's had some problems last night, including the fact he
had to admit that Minnesota's taxes are among the highest
in the country. He also had to admit that he
raised taxes on as most governors were cunning them, and
Minnesota is the most expensive state to start a business.

(12:13):
A new study has found this was not good. There
was also the corporate greed. Minnesota has a nine point
eight percent corporate income tax, is the highest in the nation,
and Minnesota's in the top ten for marginal state individual
income tax rates.

Speaker 2 (12:29):
All of these things.

Speaker 1 (12:31):
Now a problem for Tim Walls, who went out there
a guy who was trying to act like he is well,
you know, small town, rural guy, and his passwords have
well come back to haunt him. What did he have
to say about refugees, Well, listen to this.

Speaker 11 (12:50):
We have more refugees per capita than any other state.
That's not just morally a good thing, it's our economic
and cultural future.

Speaker 8 (12:58):
This beautiful diverse se See Autumn Worthington.

Speaker 11 (13:01):
When I'm there, you see fifty languages spoken in the school.

Speaker 1 (13:05):
Fifty languages spoken to school. That is what Tim Waltz
has decided to import to Minnesota. Now he's trying to
act like we want to be tough on the border
and have laws that protect you, right, that protect you
from all the chaos and anarchy that is going on. Well,
it didn't work out very well for him because he

(13:27):
was trying to change his record. What I just played
for you is when he was running for governor, he
was proud of having a massive, massive, massive, massive amount
of illegal immigrants in his state. Yeah, it is very
clear that was not what they were wanting him to
be on stage, and guess what, it was not a

(13:51):
good night for him.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
The media trying to spin it, however.

Speaker 1 (13:55):
Brazinski, Joe Scarborough's woman on MSNBS, she tried to spend
it saying this.

Speaker 12 (14:03):
I agree with you, Elise. I was surprised by that moment.
I was surprised by a number of moments like that,
but we'll take that one as the example. By the way,
I don't think it matters how late the great moment
was because unfortunately we TV people were not that important anymore.
People take nuggets online on social media.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
It's the truth.

Speaker 12 (14:24):
I mean, it's going to be all about the clips
and about what's put out here and there, and so
he can still win the day, and it's showing. The
reaction is not bad.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
To Tim Waltz.

Speaker 12 (14:34):
I will say, though, to that Teneman Square answer. I
was waiting for what are you talking about? I misspoke,
and I'm sorry about that. This guy lies every day
about legal migrants. He dehumanizes legal migrants. The governor of
Ohio is begging for jd. Vance and Donald Trump to
stop doing this to our community, and they continue lies

(14:55):
about January sixth. He's lying about the twenty twenty election.
I misspoke twenty three years ago. You can talk about
what he said six hours ago. These guys lie for
a living.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
That would have been my answer, by the way, when
they're having to carry water for you that way and say, oh,
I would have given a different answer.

Speaker 2 (15:14):
Tim Waltz had a bad moment in the debate.

Speaker 1 (15:16):
He was asked about his lie that he was at
Tim and Square and that he was there when everything
was going on, and well, he made that up. It
was a lie. It never happened. It just never happened.
And so what he said was as well, I misspoke.
It was one of the most awkward moments of the
debate because he was asked and he had this fake

(15:39):
answer and it didn't work.

Speaker 2 (15:41):
Listen to the answer.

Speaker 13 (15:43):
We want to ask you about your leadership qualities, Governor Walls,
you said you were in Hong Kong during the deadly
Tenemen Square protests in the spring of nineteen eighty nine.
But Minnesota Public Radio and other media outlets are reporting
that you actually didn't travel to Asia until August of
that year. Can you explain that discrepancy well, and to the.

Speaker 11 (16:06):
Folks out there, it didn't get at the top of this.

Speaker 8 (16:07):
Look.

Speaker 11 (16:08):
I grew up in small, rural Nebraska town of four
hundred town that you rode your bike with your buddies
till the street lights come on, and I'm proud of
that service. I joined the National Guard at seventeen, worked
on family farms, and then I use the GI bill
to become a teacher. Passionate about it a young teacher.
My first year out, I got the opportunity in the
summer of eighty nine to travel to China thirty five

(16:31):
years ago. Be able to do that, I came back
home and then started a program to take young people there.
We would take basketball teams, we would take baseball teams,
we would take dancers, and we would go back and
forth to China. The issue for that was was to
try and learn. Now, look, my community knows who I am.
They saw where I was at they look. I will

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be the first to tell you I have poured my
heart into my community. I've tried to do the best
I can, but I've not been perfect, and I'm a
knucklehead at times. But it's always about that those same
people elected me to Congress for twelve years, and in
Congress I was one of the most bipartisan people, working
on things like farm bills that we got done, working
on veterans benefits, and then the people of Minnesota were

(17:13):
able to elect me to governor twice. So look, my
commitment has been from the beginning to make sure that
I'm there for the people, to make sure that I
get this right.

Speaker 8 (17:22):
I will say more than anything.

Speaker 11 (17:24):
Many times, I will talk a lot, I will get
caught up in the rhetoric, but being there, the impact
it made, the difference it made in my life. I
learned a lot about China. I hear the critiques of this.
I would make the case that Donald Trump should have
come on one of those trips with US. I guarantee
you he wouldn't be praising Shijing ping about COVID, and
I guarantee you he wouldn't start a trade war that

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he ends up losing. So this is about trying to
understand the world. It's about trying to do the best
you can for your community. And then it's putting yourself
out there and letting your folks understand what it is
my commitment. Whether it be through teaching, which I was good,
or whether it was being a good soldier or was
being a good member of Congress. Those are the things
that I think are the values that people care about.

Speaker 13 (18:07):
Governor, just to follow up on that, the question was
can you explain Thereancy?

Speaker 11 (18:13):
All I said on this was is I got there
that summer and misspoke on this, So I will just
that's what I've said. So I was in Hong Kong
and China during the democracy protests went in and from
that I learned a lot of what needed to be
in governance.

Speaker 13 (18:30):
Thank you, Governor. Senator Vance in twenty.

Speaker 1 (18:34):
I mean, that was one of the most painful moments.
As a guy's like, hey, I talk a lot. Translation,
Hey I lie a lot, right Like, He's like, look,
I lie a lot. Maybe they know I have a
good like I have a good you know spirit, while
I'm lying a lot about being in tim Square when
the actual you know, protests and the killing was going on.

(18:56):
I know I wasn't there for like another five months,
but I was there and it was somewhat going on,
and I just, you know, you know, I sometimes I'm
just goofy and I just talk a lot and you
could hear it on MSNBC. And that's why I played
you that clip first where she's like, if I had
that question, I would have just said I'm really sorry.

(19:18):
I would have just apologized, right like, I would have
just said, hey, it was a mistake. It was a mistake,
it was and moved on. No, you can't do that
if you won't, and why.

Speaker 2 (19:30):
Do you have to? The media is going to carry
water for you. But it was a moment that tells
you a lot about him as a person. I think.

Speaker 1 (19:38):
I think it tells you an awful lot about him
as a person, and it tells you that he's willing
to lie to you about anything to build himself up.
I was in Deman Square when it was all going down.
Really you were, well, I wasn't, but I was in.
I mean, that's that's no different than stolen valor him

(20:00):
lying about his rank, right, I mean, let's just be honest.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
It's no different than that.

Speaker 1 (20:08):
I mean, it.

Speaker 2 (20:08):
Is no different, no different than that.

Speaker 1 (20:14):
At least Jordan on MSNBC saying something about jd Vance
never thought I'd heard here on MSNBC listen.

Speaker 8 (20:22):
I was disappointed.

Speaker 14 (20:23):
I felt like the reasons that Kamala Harris chose Governor
Walls didn't really come out last night.

Speaker 8 (20:29):
The Governor Walls, who.

Speaker 14 (20:30):
Was joking, who was free flowing in interviews, who was
kind of you know that guy in your hometown who's
a local leader and he's a lot of fun, but
he can be serious. I just saw someone trying to
be who he wasn't, and it allowed jd Vance to
just skate through. It was disappointing too that Governor Walls

(20:52):
just didn't have a better answer for why he had
said previously that he was in Tianaman Square when he wasn't,
you know something easily he could have easily said I misspoke,
I'm sorry, But instead he you know, almost made it worse.

Speaker 1 (21:07):
He almost made it worse. Now that is a liberal
on MSNBC. So they can spend it all they want
they I mean, they can spin it all they want,
but the truth is, I don't think Tim Waltz helped
the ticket last night, and I do believe that jd
Vance helped Donald Trump last night.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
Even on MSNBC.

Speaker 1 (21:30):
There was another part of the conversation where Lemire had
this to say about jd Vance's performance.

Speaker 15 (21:37):
Yeah, Advance definitely put forward his best version of himself
yesterday and frankly aided by Governor Wallas, who the two
men were so civil that Walls almost normalized Vance.

Speaker 8 (21:46):
He never used the word weird.

Speaker 15 (21:47):
That was that Tim Wallas is on the ticket because
he kept talking about how jd Vance and Donald Trump
and Republicans are weird, and he never used that last night.
To Donnie's point about maybe Trump's mixed feelings about the debate,
though he prayed Advance's appearance, he also at one point
mid debate started tweeting about Pete Rose started to be
in the Hall of Fame, So perhaps his own attention
was sort of lost, But at least I was.

Speaker 8 (22:09):
Also struck that. But the Governor Walls didn't.

Speaker 15 (22:12):
He sort of took a pass on some what could
have been some pretty devastating attacks. He didn't mention the
weird issue. He never brought up childless cat lays just
never came up. He didn't talk about Ukraine and Ukraine
where Advance has made clear he has no interest in
supporting Kiev. He only brought up Project twenty twenty five once,
and that's an issue that's been so effective for Democrats.

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That said that final minute in January sixth, about January
sixth was Walls's best moment. And the Harris campaign has
already cut an ad.

Speaker 1 (22:41):
They cut an ad because at the end he started
attacking Donald Trump on January the sixth, and they said
it was the best moment. There's something like, well it
was late in the night. Look, they already cut an ad.
They're going to turn it into an ad. I think
that's very clear because they believe that's going to work
with Democratic voters, maybe inspired Democratic voters.

Speaker 2 (23:01):
But there's no doubt that Tim Waltz last night did
not win the debate.

Speaker 1 (23:08):
Even Donnie dorschh on MSNBC and I play you MSNBC
eclips because I want you to understand there if they're
downplaying it or trying to cover for Waltz, you know,
it was that bad of a night. And Donnie said
this about JD Vance.

Speaker 3 (23:26):
Listen, simple Governor Waltz turned to JD. Van said he
lose the twenty twenty election, as sixty three courts decided.
As everyone around Donald Trump knows and has said since
that he lost. As Donald Trump has slipped several times
and said he lost. Couldn't answer the question. So for
as smooth as JD. Vans was, for as fluent as
he sounded on policy, we'll get into some of the

(23:47):
contradictions on the Affordable Care Act, claiming that Donald Trump
tried to save it when in fact the exact opposite
is what happened, his own record, misrepresenting his own record JD.
Vans on the question of abortion. There's a whole lot
to comb through. He was good last night. That moment
that crystallizes the whole thing. You can't even say that
your running mate lost eighty eight minutes.

Speaker 8 (24:09):
He was good. I mean, he was too slick maybe.

Speaker 2 (24:12):
But he was.

Speaker 16 (24:13):
He certainly was not the kind of despicable character that
we had kind of seen clips of.

Speaker 8 (24:18):
I thought it was a drawing up until that point,
and I think that that.

Speaker 1 (24:21):
Did Did you did you hear that he wasn't the
despicable character that we had seen the clips of translation
that we the media have tried to turn him into,
like I think they're mad because, in their opinion, they're like, dude,
we got this guy to the point where he was weird, right,
We are the ones that said.

Speaker 2 (24:41):
He's weird, he's weird, he's weird.

Speaker 1 (24:43):
And we and we and we got him to a
point where everyone believed that he was weird, and then
he wasn't weird. So that kind of hurt us, Right,
he's not weird. We thought he was weird, but he's
really not weird. And we had designed him as being weird,
but he's really not weird. That's that's what he was
saying there like that, That's that's the whole that's the

(25:05):
whole ballgame. Well, he's just weird. It didn't work anymore.
It did not work, and it backfired. And so that's
why you heard Downy there saying, well, okay, maybe you
had a better night than we thought. And and and
then he goes back into attacking Donald Trump was disqualifying.

Speaker 16 (25:23):
I think that's disqualifying in the election if you can't
say that. I mean, I think that that's the issue
that whenever I get into debates with anybody, I go, well,
put democracy dumb kind of on the docket.

Speaker 10 (25:33):
Uh.

Speaker 8 (25:34):
I want to go back to Kimmel's joke at the beginning.

Speaker 16 (25:36):
That it was born, and I was thinking the whole time,
this is going to be a referendum on what people
want going forward. I think the big theme of this
thing was that it was very congenial and it was
not a blood sport.

Speaker 8 (25:46):
It was not UFC. It was more like boxing.

Speaker 16 (25:49):
And is the American public Your intuition says, well, the
America public is ready for that.

Speaker 8 (25:54):
They want that.

Speaker 2 (25:55):
But then I kind of said to myself.

Speaker 16 (25:56):
Is there's this sick, twisted thing that people are addicted
to the sick entertainment value of Donald Trump, and that
they were kind of disappointed. I was enjoying it, but
they're just, well, no, that's no fun.

Speaker 8 (26:08):
Are we gonna go back to that? Now?

Speaker 16 (26:10):
My better angels in me say no, people are ready
for that.

Speaker 8 (26:13):
But it's an interesting question.

Speaker 16 (26:15):
Final thought, going back to what Joe said this morning
at mar A Lago, What's going on is that people
are going up as they're getting the Danish in there
and their buncake at Narlogi, They're going up to Donald
and saying, boy, Vance was great last night.

Speaker 8 (26:26):
Wasn't He Wasn't Vance great? You know, and that's gonna
bother him.

Speaker 16 (26:29):
That's gonna really bother them, that he was better than
Donald Trump, that he could litigate the case better than
Donald Trump and.

Speaker 8 (26:35):
Donald Trump and you're gonna see what. He's gonna be
very dismissive of jd Vance in the coming weeks.

Speaker 16 (26:39):
But Donald Trump is not happy this morning because jd
Van showed himself to be a superior candidate.

Speaker 2 (26:44):
I love the Jedi mind trick? Did I go? He's
gonna hate jd Vance?

Speaker 1 (26:48):
And it's so funny because five minutes before that, they're
saying that Walt's won. So which one is it? Did
Waltz win or did he not win? Like I just
got to know right which one is it? And I
think you can tell from that clip there there's no
doubt that jd Vance won. There's no doubt that Walt's underperformed.

(27:11):
And that's what this really boils down to. Tim Waltz
did not have a great debate. Jd Vance came in,
was likable, measured, and actually really I think kind Tim
Waltz on gun control, he didn't want your kids to
be safe in schools. Apparently he says, if you want
to put school resource officers at schools. Therefore, you're going

(27:33):
to look like you're a fort and that's not what
he wants. Did that connect with you as a parent?
Here is Waltz on gun control.

Speaker 8 (27:40):
Governor, you have two minutes.

Speaker 11 (27:41):
Well, I think all the parents watching tonight, this is
just your biggest nightmare.

Speaker 8 (27:45):
Look. I got a seventeen year.

Speaker 11 (27:47):
Old and he witnessed a shooting at a community center
playing volleyball. Those things don't leave you. As a member
of Congress, I set in my office surrounded by dozens
of the Sandyog parents and they would look at my
seven year old picture on the wall. Their seven year
old were dead, and they were asking us to do something,
and look.

Speaker 8 (28:05):
I'm a hunter. I own firearms.

Speaker 11 (28:08):
The vice president is we understand that the Second Amendment
is there, but our first responsibilities to our.

Speaker 8 (28:13):
Kids to figure this out.

Speaker 11 (28:15):
In Minnesota, we've enacted enhanced red flag laws, enhanced background checks,
and we can start.

Speaker 8 (28:22):
To get data. But here's the problem.

Speaker 11 (28:24):
If we really want to solve this, we've got folks
that won't allow research to be even done on gun violence,
and this idea that we should.

Speaker 8 (28:32):
Just live with it.

Speaker 11 (28:33):
And here's what I do think that This is a
good start to the conversation. I one hundred percent believe
that Senator Vance hates it when these kids it's a
borent and it breaks your heart. I agree with that,
but that's not far enough when we know they are
things that work. I've spent time in Finland and seen
some finish schools. They don't have this happened, even though

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they have a high gun ownership rate in the country.
There are reasonable things that we can do to make
a difference. It's not infringing on your Second Amendment and
the idea to have some of these weapons out there,
it just doesn't make any sense. Kamala Harris, as an
Attorney General, worked on this issue.

Speaker 8 (29:13):
She knows that it's there.

Speaker 11 (29:14):
No one's trying to scare monger and say we're taking
your guns. But I ask all of you out there,
do you want your schools hardened to look like a fort?
Is that what we have to go When we know
there's countries around the world that their children aren't practicing
these types of drills. They're being kids. We owe it
to them to get a fix. These are things that

(29:35):
should be that difficult. You can still keep your firearms
and we can make a difference.

Speaker 8 (29:39):
We have to. If you're listening tonight, this breaks your heart.

Speaker 10 (29:43):
Senator sim First of all, I didn't know that your
seventeen year old witness is shooting.

Speaker 8 (29:46):
I'm sorry about that, and I appreciate it. Okay, christ
have mercy. It is awful when.

Speaker 2 (29:52):
He says, do you want your schools to look like
a fort?

Speaker 10 (29:54):
No?

Speaker 2 (29:55):
But I want them to be as secure as one.

Speaker 1 (29:57):
And I think there should be resource officers at every
single school in this country, public or private. You know,
there's there's a difference between. It was funny when we
were looking at schools for my kids. It was the
number one question that my wife had about schools when
we were looking at schools was you know, educational quality

(30:20):
and friends and and just you know, different things like that.
And mine was the complete opposite of that. Mine was
I want to know about safety. That was my number
one issue. I'm not sending my kids to a school
where I feel like they are sitting duck. And this
idea like, oh we can kumbaya and just put up
a science as gun and free zone and somehow that's

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going to work.

Speaker 2 (30:42):
I don't. I don't see that. I don't get it.
I don't buy it.

Speaker 1 (30:48):
I want my kids in a safe school, and that
means protecting them and all this other stuff. Well, we
should look at Finland. Finland's very different. There's a lot
of reasons why it's different. I'll explain that in moment,
but to compare it that way, it's absurd. Make sure
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you for listening and sharing it, and I'll see you
back here tomorrow.