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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Ben Ferguson with you, Sendra Cruz with you. And the
headline says it all. Trump rushed off the stage after
assassination attempt at a Pennsylvania rally. Think the Lord the
President is fine, that coming from his spokesperson, but there
are others who have lost their life. Center your reaction
(00:20):
to the shocking news.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Well, it is shortly after eight pm East Coast time
on Saturday, and the entire world just witnessed what appears
to have been an assassination attempt. I'm President Donald Trump.
All of the world is reeling. I am sitting here.
Heidi and I watched it together. We are filled with
(00:46):
anger and horror and shock. I can tell you that
Heidi and I have been praying for Donald Trump. I
don't know that there has been a moment when more
people have prayed for Donald Trump than in the last hour.
Feting him up. Uh, it appears that he was struck
in the ear. At this point, they're conflicting reports whether
(01:06):
it was a bullet or a fragment of glass or
something else. That he was bleeding from his ear. Uh.
And and we are praying praying number one for protection
number two that that he is all right, but we're
also praying for for the reports are right now UH
that that at least one person in attendance at the
(01:27):
rally is dead and that another is in critical condition.
And the report is also UH that that the suspected
gun man is dead as well, presumably at the hands
of Secret Service or local police. It is so recent
that that we recognize that the facts are going to
(01:48):
come out in hours and days to come as to
who exactly this shooter is. That there are all sorts
of reports on the internet, but I'm not going to
speculate right now because I don't know if those tweets
are accurate or not. But I am sure we will
find out more about the shooter or if there was
more than one shooter. There have been conflicting statements on
(02:08):
that and what their motivation is. But I will say
sitting here, I am horrified. I am grateful for the
Secret Service agents and for law enforcement who presumably stepped
in and took out the shooter. I am incredibly grateful
for God's providence that Donald Trump appears not to be
(02:32):
seriously injured. And I'm praying. At this point, we don't
know how many people at the rally may have been
injured or worse, so I'm certainly praying for everyone there
who was in harm's way. This is a horrific and
dark moment in American history. We have not had an
(02:52):
attempted presidential assassination since Ronald Reagan, since I was ten
years old. That was a horrific moment in American history.
And now twenty four years later, we're once again in
a comfortable moment. Thankfully, then, as now the president survived.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
There are emotions that so many people listening to this
are having. One is thankfulness that the president is okay.
There's also sorrow that we hear that others have not survived,
and then there's also this anger and frustration, and people
look to leaders for advice, for wisdom, for comfort. I
(03:37):
ask you the same question that my kids asked me,
Why did this happen? And what happens next? And it's
a question that all three of my boys asked me
as I was watching this unfold on TV, and I said,
I don't know why this happens. There are bad people
in the world, and there's good people, and sometimes evil
comes after good.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Well, that's right, and I hope what comes of this
is that everyone counts to ten and exhales. I hope
that the political anger and rhetoric that it ratchets down.
There is so much vitriol, there is so much hate.
There's been so much hate directed to Donald Trump, so
(04:20):
much just just just vile bitterness. You and I and
many others have worried for some time that that some
lunatic would attempt to harm the president. And and you know,
there is zero place for political violence on any side
of the aisle. This has no place regardless of whether
(04:43):
you agree or disagree with the office holder. If you
disagree with the office holder, you can make your views plain.
That's why we have debates, that's why we write off eds,
that's why we vote the ballot box. But political violence
has no place. And I hope the overheated and in
far too many instances, unmitigated hate. My prayer is that
(05:08):
that that some of that is diminished, that that that
that that we move in the direction of having a
civil and real public discourse rather than just just screaming
at each other. I will tell you then, I fear.
I fear things are going to escalate, that there's going
(05:30):
to be anger on both sides of the Aisle. I
don't want to see this happen. I will tell you.
I sat there. You know, my immediate thoughts were thinking back,
thinking back to the nineteen sixties, thinking back to to
to win in rapid succession. JFK and Martin Luther King
(05:51):
Junior and Bobby Kennedy were all assassinated, and the horrors
that brought this country through what I will not at
that moment in time, and I pray that we are not.
But it is going to take the leaders be escalating
for a moment, and I hope that's what we see.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Finally, I just want to humanize the president for a second,
because I think sometimes people forget that not only is
he a husband, he is a dad, he is a grandfather.
I've spent time with President Trump. You've spent a lot
of time with President Trump. I know personally that he is.
(06:34):
When I see him, I don't always see him as
this guy that was the president. I see him as
a genuinely sincere and kind man. I remember when he
found out we were having twins. He said he wanted
to talk to Anna and tried to convince her for
ten minutes to name one of the boys. Donald saying
it was presidential and he was so happy that we
(06:54):
were gonna have kids. And he called and he said,
I hear you're expecting twins. I said, yes, or miss
President I am? He said, he said, well you got
a name? Two of them? Are they? What are this?
They're boys. He goes, well, you need a good name.
Donald's a pretty pretty good name. And I laughed at
He said, well, you'd have to talk to my wife
about that. And he goes, well, where is she And
I said, she's downstairs and he goes put her on
the phone. That is the human side of him. He
(07:17):
also called after they were born. It wasn't done that day.
He called after they were born. And that's the side
of Donald Trump that I want people to understand to night,
these are human beings. You're a human being, Senator. People
that say horrible things about you and come after you,
and I remind people. I try to remind me, and
they say it about me, not at the same level
as you get it every day and the president gets
(07:38):
it every day. But we're still people.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Yeah. Look, I spoke with President Trump on the phone.
I think it was three days ago, and he was
in good spirits. I have to say watching the footage
tonight when the shots are fired, when he's hits, and
then when he surrounded by Secret Service and being escorted off,
(08:03):
and he eats, clunches his fist and pounds his fist
into the air. It's extraordinary. I mean, it is breathtaking
after being shot. The leadership he demonstrated. You know, it
reminded me when when Reagan was shot and in nineteen
eighty one, and when he when he was going into
(08:24):
the hospital and he said to Nancy Reagan, he said, honey,
I forgot the duck. And he also said to the
doctors as he was being wheeled into to surgery, and
a lot of people don't remember how close Ronald Reagan
came to dying that day, and that the bullet, had
it been just an inch further over, would have killed
him that day. And and and he said to the doctors,
(08:45):
I hope, I hope you all are all Republicans, And
and and having the sense of humor to and and
the presence to say that even while going into surgery
is extraordinary President Trump, like crowning fist and standing up strong.
It was a remarkable moment of leadership, but also was
reminiscent of Teddy Roosevelt when he was shot giving a
(09:08):
speech and kept on giving the speech. I mean, it
is a fighting spirit that that is inspirational. And I
just want to call on everyone listening. We're gonna have
time when we learn more about what exactly happened. We
learned more about the shooter and who he was and
what his motivations were, and there's going to be time
(09:28):
to figure out what went wrong, what could have been
done to prevent this. But right now, just as a country,
I hope we have a moment, a moment, you know.
I think back to after after nine to eleven, After
nine to eleven, we had a moment where's a country
we came together and we had unity, and we hugged
each other and we just lifted our country up. And
(09:50):
I'm going to ask every one in the country prayed
for President Trump, whether you're a Republican or a Democrat,
Pray for President Trump so that that that that he
is our right now, but also that he'd be protected.
But also pray for President Biden and and pray for
all of our leaders that they be protected from political violence.
That we don't see uh crazed angry, zealous, UH, engaging
(10:16):
in violence. We have seen that shoe. We have seen
that to nice and and and my prayer is that
our country steps back from this brink and and and again.
I I just just want to express my my, my
incredible thanks for secret service at law enforcement, and also pray,
(10:37):
pray for the people who who may have been shot today,
but the bystanders, the families of anyone injured or killed,
and just pray for our nation. I I really believe
America that needs God's grace right now. That's my prayer,
and and and and I hope it shaers stuck.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
It is hug your family, hug your kids, call your
friends and tell them you love them. And I just
think this is, like you said, a very pivotal moment
in our country's history. And I hope that we all
take that deep breath and pray for the president and
especially those at that rally. Senator Cruz and I will
be back with you, I can promise you in a
(11:20):
couple of days. We'll have a lot more to talk about.
But I thought it was important that we come on
here and have this conversation now. Senator take care of
the fam and UH and I will see you, and
to everyone listening, we'll see you guys soon.
Ben Ferguson with you, Sendra Cruz with you. And the
headline says it all. Trump rushed off the stage after
assassination attempt at a Pennsylvania rally. Think the Lord the
President is fine, that coming from his spokesperson, but there
are others who have lost their life. Center your reaction
(00:20):
to the shocking news.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Well, it is shortly after eight pm East Coast time
on Saturday, and the entire world just witnessed what appears
to have been an assassination attempt. I'm President Donald Trump.
All of the world is reeling. I am sitting here.
Heidi and I watched it together. We are filled with
(00:46):
anger and horror and shock. I can tell you that
Heidi and I have been praying for Donald Trump. I
don't know that there has been a moment when more
people have prayed for Donald Trump than in the last hour.
Feting him up. Uh, it appears that he was struck
in the ear. At this point, they're conflicting reports whether
(01:06):
it was a bullet or a fragment of glass or
something else. That he was bleeding from his ear. Uh.
And and we are praying praying number one for protection
number two that that he is all right, but we're
also praying for for the reports are right now UH
that that at least one person in attendance at the
(01:27):
rally is dead and that another is in critical condition.
And the report is also UH that that the suspected
gun man is dead as well, presumably at the hands
of Secret Service or local police. It is so recent
that that we recognize that the facts are going to
(01:48):
come out in hours and days to come as to
who exactly this shooter is. That there are all sorts
of reports on the internet, but I'm not going to
speculate right now because I don't know if those tweets
are accurate or not. But I am sure we will
find out more about the shooter or if there was
more than one shooter. There have been conflicting statements on
(02:08):
that and what their motivation is. But I will say
sitting here, I am horrified. I am grateful for the
Secret Service agents and for law enforcement who presumably stepped
in and took out the shooter. I am incredibly grateful
for God's providence that Donald Trump appears not to be
(02:32):
seriously injured. And I'm praying. At this point, we don't
know how many people at the rally may have been
injured or worse, so I'm certainly praying for everyone there
who was in harm's way. This is a horrific and
dark moment in American history. We have not had an
(02:52):
attempted presidential assassination since Ronald Reagan, since I was ten
years old. That was a horrific moment in American history.
And now twenty four years later, we're once again in
a comfortable moment. Thankfully, then, as now the president survived.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
There are emotions that so many people listening to this
are having. One is thankfulness that the president is okay.
There's also sorrow that we hear that others have not survived,
and then there's also this anger and frustration, and people
look to leaders for advice, for wisdom, for comfort. I
(03:37):
ask you the same question that my kids asked me,
Why did this happen? And what happens next? And it's
a question that all three of my boys asked me
as I was watching this unfold on TV, and I said,
I don't know why this happens. There are bad people
in the world, and there's good people, and sometimes evil
comes after good.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Well, that's right, and I hope what comes of this
is that everyone counts to ten and exhales. I hope
that the political anger and rhetoric that it ratchets down.
There is so much vitriol, there is so much hate.
There's been so much hate directed to Donald Trump, so
(04:20):
much just just just vile bitterness. You and I and
many others have worried for some time that that some
lunatic would attempt to harm the president. And and you know,
there is zero place for political violence on any side
of the aisle. This has no place regardless of whether
(04:43):
you agree or disagree with the office holder. If you
disagree with the office holder, you can make your views plain.
That's why we have debates, that's why we write off eds,
that's why we vote the ballot box. But political violence
has no place. And I hope the overheated and in
far too many instances, unmitigated hate. My prayer is that
(05:08):
that that some of that is diminished, that that that
that that we move in the direction of having a
civil and real public discourse rather than just just screaming
at each other. I will tell you then, I fear.
I fear things are going to escalate, that there's going
(05:30):
to be anger on both sides of the Aisle. I
don't want to see this happen. I will tell you.
I sat there. You know, my immediate thoughts were thinking back,
thinking back to the nineteen sixties, thinking back to to
to win in rapid succession. JFK and Martin Luther King
(05:51):
Junior and Bobby Kennedy were all assassinated, and the horrors
that brought this country through what I will not at
that moment in time, and I pray that we are not.
But it is going to take the leaders be escalating
for a moment, and I hope that's what we see.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Finally, I just want to humanize the president for a second,
because I think sometimes people forget that not only is
he a husband, he is a dad, he is a grandfather.
I've spent time with President Trump. You've spent a lot
of time with President Trump. I know personally that he is.
(06:34):
When I see him, I don't always see him as
this guy that was the president. I see him as
a genuinely sincere and kind man. I remember when he
found out we were having twins. He said he wanted
to talk to Anna and tried to convince her for
ten minutes to name one of the boys. Donald saying
it was presidential and he was so happy that we
(06:54):
were gonna have kids. And he called and he said,
I hear you're expecting twins. I said, yes, or miss
President I am? He said, he said, well you got
a name? Two of them? Are they? What are this?
They're boys. He goes, well, you need a good name.
Donald's a pretty pretty good name. And I laughed at
He said, well, you'd have to talk to my wife
about that. And he goes, well, where is she And
I said, she's downstairs and he goes put her on
the phone. That is the human side of him. He
(07:17):
also called after they were born. It wasn't done that day.
He called after they were born. And that's the side
of Donald Trump that I want people to understand to night,
these are human beings. You're a human being, Senator. People
that say horrible things about you and come after you,
and I remind people. I try to remind me, and
they say it about me, not at the same level
as you get it every day and the president gets
(07:38):
it every day. But we're still people.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Yeah. Look, I spoke with President Trump on the phone.
I think it was three days ago, and he was
in good spirits. I have to say watching the footage
tonight when the shots are fired, when he's hits, and
then when he surrounded by Secret Service and being escorted off,
(08:03):
and he eats, clunches his fist and pounds his fist
into the air. It's extraordinary. I mean, it is breathtaking
after being shot. The leadership he demonstrated. You know, it
reminded me when when Reagan was shot and in nineteen
eighty one, and when he when he was going into
(08:24):
the hospital and he said to Nancy Reagan, he said, honey,
I forgot the duck. And he also said to the
doctors as he was being wheeled into to surgery, and
a lot of people don't remember how close Ronald Reagan
came to dying that day, and that the bullet, had
it been just an inch further over, would have killed
him that day. And and and he said to the doctors,
(08:45):
I hope, I hope you all are all Republicans, And
and and having the sense of humor to and and
the presence to say that even while going into surgery
is extraordinary President Trump, like crowning fist and standing up strong.
It was a remarkable moment of leadership, but also was
reminiscent of Teddy Roosevelt when he was shot giving a
(09:08):
speech and kept on giving the speech. I mean, it
is a fighting spirit that that is inspirational. And I
just want to call on everyone listening. We're gonna have
time when we learn more about what exactly happened. We
learned more about the shooter and who he was and
what his motivations were, and there's going to be time
(09:28):
to figure out what went wrong, what could have been
done to prevent this. But right now, just as a country,
I hope we have a moment, a moment, you know.
I think back to after after nine to eleven, After
nine to eleven, we had a moment where's a country
we came together and we had unity, and we hugged
each other and we just lifted our country up. And
(09:50):
I'm going to ask every one in the country prayed
for President Trump, whether you're a Republican or a Democrat,
Pray for President Trump so that that that that he
is our right now, but also that he'd be protected.
But also pray for President Biden and and pray for
all of our leaders that they be protected from political violence.
That we don't see uh crazed angry, zealous, UH, engaging
(10:16):
in violence. We have seen that shoe. We have seen
that to nice and and and my prayer is that
our country steps back from this brink and and and again.
I I just just want to express my my, my
incredible thanks for secret service at law enforcement, and also pray,
(10:37):
pray for the people who who may have been shot today,
but the bystanders, the families of anyone injured or killed,
and just pray for our nation. I I really believe
America that needs God's grace right now. That's my prayer,
and and and and I hope it shaers stuck.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
It is hug your family, hug your kids, call your
friends and tell them you love them. And I just
think this is, like you said, a very pivotal moment
in our country's history. And I hope that we all
take that deep breath and pray for the president and
especially those at that rally. Senator Cruz and I will
be back with you, I can promise you in a
(11:20):
couple of days. We'll have a lot more to talk about.
But I thought it was important that we come on
here and have this conversation now. Senator take care of
the fam and UH and I will see you, and
to everyone listening, we'll see you guys soon.
Host
Ben Ferguson
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