The Big Bend Outdoors Show 06.08.24

This is the Big Bend Outdoors Show with Joel Baldree

Original Airdate 06.08.24

Today's guests include: Captain Paul Tyre and Captain Kenny Mullins

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Episode Transcript

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This is the Big Bend Outdoor Showwith Joel Baldry. Today's guest include Captain
Paul Tyre Captain Kenny Mullins. Here'syour host, Joel Baldry. Ahi,
guys, welcome to the Big BenOutdoor Show. We got Kenny Mullins finally
back from chasing catfish and dogs andeverything else. Have We got Captain Paul

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Tire of course in Tanners. He'soff catfishing somewhere. He had been on
the show in a little while.But Kenny, what's the weather been looking
like? Here? Let the manin the tides hot. It's been hot,
you know, typical summertime, afternoonthunderstorms. Saturday looks beautiful though,
weatherwise, and so the tides fourforty three am high tide, nine forty

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seven am low tide, which isone point four to five feet of water
movement, which is not a lot, but it's it's not terrible. And
then that afternoon the high is threeat three twenty seven it's three point six
three and the low is eleven twentyfour PM at a negative point two for
three point four to three feet ofwater movement. That that should be some

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awesome fishing if you like fishing intothe evening, you know, into dark.
That would be if you're in thesouthern region, that'd be an awesome
snook tide. Then Sunday high tideat five twenty two am at three point
oh three, low tight at tentwenty seven am at one point five seven

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for one point four to six feetof water move So it's about the same
both days. Of course, Ipulled up the tides for the Spring Warrior
area. Light there for a minute, Sorry about that. But so Saturday
Saturday Sunday weather looks very hot,but show showing ninety eight on the index.

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Yeah. Yeah, so without indexit should on the lowest seventy one
high in ninety three, and thenSunday's the lowest seventy two high in ninety
seven. Look at that humidity.Yep, that's gonna be muggie, m
meggi, muggy, muggy yep.H Paul, what's it? What's it
looking like in your house of waterand everything? I tell you what.

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The water is finally starting to clearup a little bit. But there's a
big high school tournament on Linke Seminolethis weekend, and there's just found out
there's a forty boat brim and brimfishing tournament, and there's a there's another
little tournament that uh me and mypartner's in. But man, that place
is gonna be busy this weekend.Looking at the weather. It starts,
it gets clear, uh Friday nightabout four at starts at It starts at

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ten pm on Friday night and staysclear all the way till the whole day.
No clouds, no win. Whatdoes that mean about the clouds again?
And that's gonna make it very interesting. Better make sure I drink plenty
of water between the how and thenit's gonna be hot. Yeah. Remember
I got to get them fans andthat myster going. Yeah, oh yeah,

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I'll definitely have that. I'm gonnabe putting nothing in the bass boat
this week. I'm gonna fill thatthing up with us and I'll be I'll
be sea esting it out there afterwe catch a limit. What are you
gonna be fishing for? Bass?Bass? Yeah? And your tournament And
they said they're having a brim turnand they're having a brim tournament too out
of another landing. But man,they did that, They've been doing it
every year. It's kind of invitational. Only tournament, but I know some
guys that are doing it. They'llcatch them. Oh we can't show up

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then if we want to fish right, Oh that's right, not for that
one, but I tell you he'sthe If anybody's coming like Seminole this weekend,
there's gonna be a big about onehundred and fifty high school anglers with
their where their captains running down theflint rivers. So if you're going to
get out there, I'd get outthere after that after daylight. Let them
get on by. It takes aboutan hour and twenty minutes for all in

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boats come down the river. It'sgonna be late. It's gonna be busy
this weekend, especially only Seminole man, that's crazy. I wish we could
go fish up Brimtoner. I thinkwe could win that, Kenny. You
know, I never really targeted brimwhat every target shell cracker. No.
The only freshwater fish I really tartwell too is catfish and bass man.
You good to catching them catfish andthey flatheads them things are fun. I

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haven't figured out how to catch thesaltwater cats yet. I'm going to book
a trip with Joel. Learned somelessons there Dale said, human Tanner,
when they ain't even catch one.I believe it. I believe it.
They caught one, Oh Tanner,cut it real quick for But this time
here, if you don't catch acatfish on a live bait, you dag

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them. Lie, you don't catcha catfish, ain't just it. Ain't
just live bait, because them thembig sail cats, they will they will
come after a plug or soft plastic. Man, that's crazy. But I
tell you what, I've been onthe lake every day this week. Had
a trip this morning too, andman it was slow today, but all
during the week they seemed to beena lot better till today they I mean

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seven eight the water, they're doinggood right there, you know, in
between Saint Mark's and Asila right nowthey around them rocks, you know,
cod rock and gray mare. Theykilling the fish, the trout especially.
It's been pretty slow our way.I mean, redfish has been on fire
right you know. It's you can'tdo anything wrong with the red fish.

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The trout, it's been up anddown, but pretty much summertime patterns at
six to eight feet and typically withinthe next couple of weeks they kind of
push in a little shallower and kindof hang there in our area and they'll
stay in that five and a halfto six and a half and see that's

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you know the red fish you talkingabout that usually this time of the year,
this already started slowing down, soyou could tell it's late everything.
Oh yeah, yeah, because usuallyit's a you know, in May,
right there you're catching these red fishlike they catching nine in June. Well,
even the kobe A run was latethis year. Are y'all starting to
catch Kobe and over there over yourway and your staffer bike's been good?

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Yeah, Well it's always good.It's always good. It's always good.
Yeah, that's true. And that'swhat's it calling for on seas as anybody
looked at that, I have not. I will I will pull that up
while we're while y'all are talking.Yeah, this past open the weekend,
you was a fool if you wentout there five to eights and wind blowing
thirty forty miles. I think Ithink you know, there was a few

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that went, but they had thembe big boats where it didn't really matter.
But if he was in a twentyfive foot boat, right, you
didn't have no business being off shorethis past weekend well, I tell you
it's gonna be slick this weekend.Is it's week actually Sunday? I mean,
uh zero point six point seven?Wait? Wait so less than ones?

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Oh man, Yeah, they'd befighting at to keep being baked rapidly.
Yeah, so Sunday eight am.Uh, sustained winds a two mile
an hour or a gust of twomile an hour? What's that? And
then it's gonna uh let's see aboutsix to ten. Still gonna be bad.
No, it's sick direction, soit's still out of the west,

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so it's still less than a foot. Yeah, it's gonna be perfect Saturday
and Sunday. You'll see a pileof people and there'd be a lot of
fish caught this weekend off shore.Yeah. I had to run my skiff
out there. Correct. I knowpeople have done it. Somebody sent a
picture on Facebook the other day abouta pond team. I saw that.
Yeah, and you know I seenthem coming in before it keating a long

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time ago. Have dived gear gettingout? I said, where y'all been
at? We've been out a groupof shooting grouper, I said, really,
noting about a pond tom boat witha ninty horse on the back.
So about about four years ago mywife and I maybe, yeah, it's
about four years ago. My wifeand I and the kids. We went
out of clear water and we werewe were in our boat when it was
a twenty foot bay boat at thetime. We were thirty eight miles offshore

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group of fishing, and my wifesays, we're probably be the smallest boat
out here and we're on a publicreef and deck boat pulls up next to
us, So that wasn't bad.It was a bigger deck boat. Well,
then eighteen foot key West center consolepulls up beside us. Why,
I says, Okay, we're notas crazy as I thought. Here comes
two guys in a J sixteen Carolinaskiff with a twenty five horse tiller handled

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on the back, and we're thirtyeight miles out and they passed by us.
You could see it filled with gascans and fishing rods. They couldn't
even move, they had enough roomto sit. They kept going and went
clear out of sight. Oh boy, they were going for the big boys.
Man. They couldn't catch but twofish. They'd sud be about out

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of gas. Yeah, you didn'thear nothing about them going missing, No,
I bet it did. What itwas, there's sharks out there as
big as that boat. Yeah,well, you know there one time,
me and a buddy of mine anduh, we had a big shark on
and we had the bright idea wewas gonna, you know, get this
shark and the boat. So Iwas gonna rape him when he we fought

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him for like an hour and ahalf and it's a big bull shark,
so get him up to the top. And I got on the back by
the motor stand, and I wasgonna I had to, Like I said,
it wasn't real bright at all,but I thought it was the bright
idea at the time to put therope around his tail right there, and
that way we could pull him upin the boat. I went to go
off right there to the slide overto put the tail, put the rope

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over the tail, and there wasone just big, if not bigger,
swimming under him right. I justfell back. I said, I ain't
messing with that rope. So weeventually right there, you know, we
got him in. You know,but that joker, he was eight eight
one or eight two, and theyI don't know how big that one was
blowing me in, and he said, I tried to tell you I was
out here diving last week and therewas some big sharks. You didn't believe

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me. I said, I believeyou. Now this is a good time
of year shark fish. Oh yeah, the ain't no doubt, real good
time. And that's and they're allpushed in, you know too. And
that's about these scallopers. You knowa lot of people skittish about it,
but they don't need to be cleaningscallops out there where you're gonna be sky.
Yeah, you taught that last week. Can you imagine th one's callic
guts out there and here comes?No, I wouldn't I would be doing
that. Oh, you're gonna goout fishing, men. Kenny's going to

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fish as long as I can,as long as I can, uh,
as well as we in the bait. I can't see land, I don't.
I don't go on that ocean.I get seasick, you know when
I when I was doing it,when I was younger, we used to
do a lot of spearfishing offshore,you know, fifty sixty feet of water
and you go down there and shootgrouper and snapper and you you're coming up
with a stringer full of fish,and you look up and they're just circling

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the boat. Oh. I neverhad one come after me, but I
can tell you I let him havethem fish. I bet you did.
It's smart. Caleb got a Itwas a dag. What's uh? Come
on, help me out, abig one out. There's always run out
at Barracuda. Yeah, run upthere on him, right there, and
he was trying to pop his fishoff. He cut one of them in
half. And Uh, anyways,he wound up having to shoot him to

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get him away from him right there. And that joker when he pulled him
up on the boat. Uh,Cole, whatn't on an eight or nine
years old? And he pulled ita big old teeth you couldn't get He
was jumping off the boat before that, you know, swimming and coming back.
He wouldn't get back off that boat. Does he say that? Barracuda?
Those things can move so fast too. Last year we were down in
Belize in snorkeling, and we weresnorkeling a reef and I look over and

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there was about a about four orfive foot barracuda and it was like I
blink my eyes it was gone.I blink, my eyes is back.
These things are fast. You hadnothing blinking on, did you? I
said, cut whatever? You knowif you got a ring or something now
or so come after that flash?Yeah? Oh yeah? Did you imagine
that you wouldn't feel it? Ipresent the teeth are as big as they

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are, you wouldn't feel it atall. Yeah, I ain't getting nonhe
a messing with him? They neither. Oh why don't you go off shore
man? You need to go withus one day? Oh I am I
right, I'm not right. Wellthe last time I did it, though,
I sware if I get off thisdamn boat, I ain't never coming
out. And I and L sixteenand I got off that boat. And

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brother, what's the problem with that? Ease sickness? Stripe? Is as
soon as you step on land,you will, you will, you will.
We gotta go to your crazy We'llbe right, all right, guys,

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welcome back to the show. Wehad to cut it short. Well.
Ago was talking about Paul going offshort fishing. Paul. What I
was, you know, telling talkingto you in the break about is if
you'll take a dreaming meine before youan hour before you go and even put
that patch behind your ear. Andthe key thing is when you leave that
that channel or whatever, huh,you get out there where you can't see

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land, don't be looking down inthe baby. That's what got me before.
Then that rolling ways, Well,if you just look up, keep
looking out, look out of youknow, through the sky, don't don't
look down at that water. Idon't get sick. I'm just telling people
that does get sick, right,But if you'll take that thing an hour
before you leave, you'll be fine. A lot of people wait till they
get out and get sick. Takeit. It ain'tnna do no good.

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Yeah. But now, while whilewe were at break, he was telling
us what his buddy told him todo for sis. Did I think the
listeners would love to hear this?Well, what do you tell me?
Because he tries to get me togo every year with him, I'm like,
if I get sick, y'all gonnabe back. Like, well,
no, we can't print hallway backjust because you get sick. He goes.
Let me tell you what you do. Here's how you here's how you

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don't get sick. As soon asyou feel like you might start to get
a little queazy. He said,you reach in there and grab one of
them. Sorry, he's bite itshead off and take a chug of beer
or some and then he won't getsick. After that. I'm like,
well, are you crazy? Iain't because you ain't gonna have the stomach
left. Yeah, he said,you won't be worried about no ocean sickness.

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I don't know about all that.You know, we used to go
man Dad. For instance, wego with mister Tommy. What was that
thirty two foot boat? Yeah,thirty two foot boat, and we go.
I stay two or three days ata time, and all the reason
we'd come back in is because theyrun out of beer. But years old,
I'd had to drive him there,drive him back, And you tell

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them that I didn't know what Iwas doing up on that tower at night.
They'd be done their sleeping while Iwas driving out, you know,
forty fifty miles where we was going, and the boat was steadily where.
I just kept spinning the rail.I didn't even know what I was doing.
He didn't see nothing. So wegrew up offshore fishing. That was
my thing. Most of the inshorefishing was done from the bank, growing

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up, but we did a lotoffshore fishing, and I just don't care
to go anymore. Man, Ilove it, That's just it. You
ever got sick out there too?Oh yeah, we'll see you see there.
He got sense, he got sensory. Ye, sick. He got
sick and he got sin. Heain't going back out there. He's gonna
fish them flats. You're gonna askthem hell vouch for you. Like one
night he had to come out andget me and get me in the cabin

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because it doesne got so rough.I was out there fishing and the coolers
were slimming back and for worth onthat eleven foot wide boat, and they
made me come inside and I wasraising the cane because I was catching fish
and I didn't want to come inside. But I never got sick. The
onlast time that I got sick isbeing down in the cabin. Yeah,
I couldn't see, and then wavesget the rocking. But other than that,

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I'd go to sleep like a baby. Yeah. I have a captain
that I got up on Lake Simonole. He's a charter captain out way it
goes way out, Captain black Overand I think in Penama City and he
comes up, he says, Igot it on my boat. If I
know see a person starting to getsick, I tell him to go lay
down in the center of the boat. And he said, they they'll lay
down right there and they won't getsick. Like really, that's what makes

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it worse, that's what he That'swhat he said. I always thought that
too, but he said, now, I said, how do you know
that works? Wheverybody goes, Ijust know my boat. I say,
oh, okay, And honestly,the best thing to do is jump out
in that water. That's what Nicktold me. Yeah, but you tell
me the old damn great white comingthere and swallow you what you're gonna do.
Then you won't have to worry aboutwhat you gonna do when you are

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fishing on that lake and the planecrashes on top of you. I mean,
that's just that's that much of achance. It's a great white biting
you. Well, maybe a greatwife. But then bull sharks are out
there and they're trying to get themKobe right now too. That's why we're
hearing people from fight them Kobe andthen dag them. Shark gets the before
they get them up to the boat. I'll tell you what's even worse.
Go hook a tarpin and watch thehammer heads. Hey, they're they're catching

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tarpin right in front of the gates. Creak stuff right now, that's there's
from tarping out right now? Isthat time of the year. Yeah,
Tanner. You know, Tanner wastelling me the other day that he went
somewhere down south. I can't rememberexactly where he said, but he said
they didn't really get in the tarpingbecause it's so rough, but he caught
a lot. He said. Hecalled people, come fish for tarping.

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We all do. You'll try that. I don't. I don't advertise it
much because it takes it takes aspecial person to guide a tarping trip.
Right, I'm sorry to fish atarping trip because you you may go all
day and maybe get one hook up. Right. You know, if they're
not a charge, if they're nota tarpin fisherman, they don't understand that.

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Yeah, I mean, you're goingto see fish now this weekend.
It would be perfect calm. It'scalm. And the key with our area
is we don't have a lot ofpasses in those tarpa and they like traveling
those passes and stuff. But there'sareas where they do travel where you can
stage up on them. But thekey here is to watch them, watch

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them roll, get ahead of them, present something to them and hope they
eat it. Right, I gotyou, Yeah, I ain't got the
patience to go all day and notcatch but one fish. It wou Yeah,
and not just that, I meanit's it takes the right angler on
the end of that rod right toland out fish. I mean, you

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know, typically when we take peoplefish, and what do they do when
they fight the fish. They holdthe rod up high and they want a
reel, they want and all that. So with a tarpin the backbone,
the backbone of that rod is downthere towards the bottom. So when you're
fighting that fish, you want toyou want to pull that rod sideways so

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that you're fighting with the backburne ofthe rod, not the tip, you
know. And the other thing iswhen that tarpin jumps, they call it
bow to the king. When itcomes out of the water. You got
to bow down. You got tolower that rod down and give him some
slack. Do you know why he'llshut He's so powerful break the line.
Well, what what ends up happeningis if you stay up high and people's

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reelings it's coming up high and theygo to come back down. What happens
That line get slack in it,It shocks it. That's right. You
know you want to give it slackbecause when it comes back down, it'll
it'll load it because if you you'regetting tight and it's going down, it
is going to pop that line.The other thing is getting people to get

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a good hook set on a tarpinis tough because have you ever caught a
tarpin? So a tarpin's mouth isvery, very tough. You gotta have
a super sharp, sharp hook.You got to have a strong hook.
So strong and sharp don't always gohand in hand. I mean, yeah,
you can get it sharp, butyou you know, a bigger gauge
hook, it takes a little moreforce to get it penetrate on top of

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that armor plated mouth. So youreally got to set the hook on and
they'll throw that hook so quick.If you don't. Those guys do that.
With flyers, you can't even putthem in the bait, can you.
You can't let them lead the water. Now, I can't remember that
it's this a size. Once they'reover a certain size, and I mean
you're not supposed to people pick themup and take pictures. If they're smaller

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and get them back in the water, you can get it. You can
buy a permit and keep one.But no one doesn't eymore with replicamounts.
There's no reason to. Yeah,I know one thing. If I find
that big jerker, that's that's thething about me. He's coming to the
hill, especially if I can eathim. But if he don't taste good,
I ain't gonna mess with troping gooddeep, can he? No?
Yeah, all they are is abig yeah, yeah, got you.

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We'll just run over them when wesee him there. I ain't nobody got
time for that. We don't caresomething that we can bring to the hill
and put that right pole. That'sright. But yeah, there's a lot
of people enjoy fishing for him.Like you're saying about the Kobe. Uh,
they killing the Kobe, especially inour end. And I don't talk
any about crossing that line. Heneeds to say east of the Rock Island.

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But you know what, he neversees me. When I do it,
I'm gonna I'm gonna start calling thegame board and say down there looking
for artifacts on Rock Island. Thatto get him going pretty quick. That
yeah, that boat, it justblends into the water. Well yeah that
Who else has got one of yourboat? What kind of boat? That's
micro skift, micro draft skiff?Okay, there there's a there is someone

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that has one that runs out ofEcofina. He's not a guide. He's
got a black one also. Andthen uh, Jim Rudd with Camp Keaton.
He's got a seafoam green one.Is he a guy now? No,
he's not a guy. No.Yeah, he was wanting to go
out to the Oscilla right there withme. He's like, yeah, God,
I said, we ain't running yourboat out to Oscilla. I said,

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I'm not being reliable for that.You come on the air boat.
I'm not running your boat out ofthere. He don't want to run out
of Keaton half the time. Andit's you know you're pretty safe there,
Yeah, I mean Keithing. Youknow, he's one or two spots you
got to worry about. But Ican about run keeping blindfolded. You got
you know over there if you gotowards grassy and stuff like it as a
few spots out there but back theother way, I could run it blindfolded

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always. You know, to theOscilla, it's it's pretty much simple.
Now you get to the Doscilla,there's lamb mines everywhere. Yeah, the
same marsh like that too, asbad as all Siller is about the same.
I don't know, I've never fishedon the other side of Saint Martin.
Yeah, there's it's more like SpringWarrior area, is it. You
know, a lot of oyster barswith some scattered rocks. Speaking of you

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know, the area is down therein your area? What's going on with
the dredg and what what are theydoing about that? So they've got the
funding, they've got the permitting andeverything, but they are waiting until after
scollop season. I reckon that's yeah, it's okay. Yeah, last year
they were talking about doing it duringscollop season and uh, they ran into

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an issue with the not the permitting, the surveys. So it took them
almost five years to get surveys becausethe company kept selling getting delayed. So
it wasn't the commissioner's fault. Itwas actually no, it wasn't the commissioner's
fault. Of course, they gotthe blame. But yeah, so you

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know, as you know, Iwas very active in that, and we
we went to the county managers obviously, we went to the county commissioners meetings,
and you know, we we prettymuch pushed them in the right direction.
You know, they were able toget some extra funding due to the
hurricane that they were not pushing forbefore we got involved. But you know,

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we're on the water every day andI ain't I ask you nobody by
no means, but a lot ofthem, it's kind of commissioners around there
don't even live in that area.You know that they honestly, you can
say what they can say what theywant to. A lot of them give
two craps if something gets done ornot. They act like they're gonna do
something about it. But if theylive there, they're gonna do something about
it. And that's what you wantaround that area, to make sure stuff

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gets done. Yeah. Yeah,And I tell you, no matter where
you live, what area, youdon't get involved with your kind of commissioner's
meetings, get active, and youknow, especially when it impacts impacts the
environment and natural resources. Yeah,there's a big stink up there in Bambers.
They gonna put one of the monkeyfarms and test monkeys. And there's
signs all over the place. Stopthe monkey farm. I bet they's gonna

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be some county commissioners their job.Then have a sign there. We gonna
go by there, stop the monkeysthere on people's side. There are people
yards everywhere. He's gonna wrap hisboat. Stop the monkey farm. Crazy,
I heard about that up there.Crazy, you're gonna put one of
them tall wor they test monkeys andstuff and all the sewage come up.

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You don't want to be going upthe river to Flint River. So yeah,
people freaking out over that. That'dbe monkeys floating aroun everywhere. You
can imagine coming down there. Yeah, like a planet up days. We
gotta go to a quick commercial.Alright, guys, welcome back to the

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show. Kenny's over here making everybodyslobber about some smoke balloonea right now back
you know on the dredge and Kenny, Uh, what what all canals are
they doing? So they're going todo Keaton Beach. Uh, some areas
of steam Hatchie, Uh, DarkIsland, Cedar Island. Uh. I

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know for sure those areas that Ihad mapped out. And what about decle
I believe they are going to dodecal as well. I didn't. I
did map that out. Yeah,it won't be the actual channel because that's
federal really, So what they're doingis the county waterways, which will be
all your canals. Well, Imean where their boats come up to their

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dogs and right, well, Imean that's where it needs out. Well,
the main channel does need it.I mean federal getting involved in help
and match and stuff. I don'tknow. Yeah, but yeah, you
can't go out there if you goto start digging right there. The scene,
well even with the dredging, theArmy Corps had to come out and

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you know, they had to dotheir part. And even when we were
doing the storm clean up, theArmy Corps was out there. So that's
crazy. And what about we're justtalking about it up Warrior. They're not
doing anything there. And I'll tellyou why. It's a it's a natural
it's a natural creek. So theywon't do anything with the natural waterway.

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I believe that. I see whereit's up sail again. Yep. Yeah,
I wish they kind of would buyit. They're not gonna buy it.
Hey, they talked about it.You know, it's in the newspaper.
But you know, we need it. We need another boat ramp.
I'm thinking about buying and putting atoll booth up there. You're gonna give
me a pass. Hey, ifit would run a big boat out there.

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It doesn't be bought, trust me. Been watched. Oh yeah,
and that's what I was talking about. Want to want to why it where
they dredged that out? You know, well now you know because I asked
about it. And there's a lotof boo boos there and you will get
hung up there. But that's agood thing about that airboat. It don't
matter what it is. You canleave there. Everybody else be waiting at

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the dog while I'm gone. Butuh, yeah, I'm glad they're doing
that. It's been talked about whatfive or six years now. Yeah.
Yeah, And another one I gotinterviewed about was down in Swanee McGriff pass
it. Uh, it was badbefore this hurricane and it's really bad now.
Yeah, And you know that's messingwith a revenue. People don't want,

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you know, they don't want toput them boats in there. If
they can't get that in and out, they don't want to bottom the boat
scratched up and everything else. Theywant to be able to go. And
I think y'all did a pretty goodjob cleaning up the canals. I mean,
it ain't pretty much nothing in keatingear. They No, there's there's
still some stuff that's came back in. I mean that happens. You're still
going to see stuff floating out onthe flats, you know, it just

(27:25):
gets pushed out and it comes backin. We cleaned up eight Ton.
Speaking of, you know, theboat and everything. This past weekend,
I forgot there was a ride up, you know, what was to do
about them guys out of stein Hatchett. There was three of them. I
didn't see it. I didn't seethat too. It was on the news
talking about three of them. Theylost power and they were out there every

(27:48):
night and didn't get a thing tothem the next morning, is what I'm
assuming at eight o'clock in the morning. So that's that all, not I'm
trying to figure out, you know, what's to deal with that? Yeah,
I don't that. I don't know. I'll tell you. I do
want to touch on one thing though. If you do end up in a
situation out there anchor down, Yeah, anchor down, you know, sit
still, don't don't drift. Andright after I bought my new boat,

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I had an issue with it andI got stranded and I had tobot Us
through my insurance, and so Icontacted them. Well, they couldn't get
to me because the tides. Sotried ceto the same thing, couldn't get
tides and uh, someone said,well, I'll just pull your anchor and
drift. Maybe you'll drift into someone. I said, no, no,

(28:34):
no, you never pull your anchor. You'll hear about them lost No,
we had you know, and I'lltouch base on that. The other day,
I think it was Sunday, Ihad a call from the Sharf's department.
You know, somebody was out toOscilla lost power. Uh, you
know, couldn't get ahold of nobody. And they were saying they gave them

(28:56):
a coordinates and you know, thisall goes back to knowing your boat.
They gave him accordinates right there andthey didn't know how to read their their
machine. They were giving them accordinatesand I tapped in the cordates when I
got the ecaffini because the way theywas talking about they went left out to
Doscilla and they had the second birdrack. Well, the second bird rack,

(29:17):
guess what that's mouth at Ecaffinie andI tipped it in and it's showing
them down there by past Rock Island, out front of the Fenn holloway.
I said, something ain't right,and I said, you know, I
called the shirt's partner. I said, tell them to give me their ping
on their phone, and they didand it showed them four miles out Dosilla.
So you know, it was stillconfusion because they kept sending you know,

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the thing back. I said,y'all, not in that location,
y'all, that phone was not gonnalie. That phone was in the you
know, with underfoot of where youat. And of course they went with
the airboat left and went right,and uh. I went out there and
I said, you know, Imet with a shrift's partment. I said,
I can't go out there in thislittle boat. I said, but
they out there in front of themouth the Doscilla. I said, I'm
looking at the pin. And ofcourse they took off and they got a

(30:03):
hold of them and found them,you know, thank goodness. But they
didn't have an anchor on a twentyfoot pro line. I'm not gonna mention
these people's names, but they triedto shoot off. They tried to shoot
off the flares even though they wasn'tin a real emergency yet. You know,
I explained to them about that.You know, that's the last report.
But they said they pulled the flaresout, the bags out, out
the box brand new wouldn't shoot.They tried, you know, different things

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right there. Their air horn.They said they pulled it out. The
package wouldn't work. So that justgo. The people needed to pay attention
and know their equipment before they leavethe hill, and you know, don't
wait two or three weeks like Ido. Sometimes I'm bad about it,
but checking something the fire extinguished orsomething. So I got stopped a couple
of weeks ago and they were checkingsafety equipment and my flares were wet.

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Huh. They were they were withindate, but they were wet, and
that apparently that's so against the wall. Yeah, you know, which I
should have known that, but youknow, I didn't think about it.
I had them stored in the hatchand you know, didn't even think about
them getting wet. Luckily it wasjust a warning. But yeah, and
I tell you a lot of things. They ain't got to be in that
hatch. They can be under something, they're in a box and still get

(31:15):
morsture in them, yep. Andhe got to put them in like a
waterproof container, so they still going. You just got to keep an eye
on them. If they get ahole in that bag or whatever, or
even with the bag clothes, theystill create morsture. Yeah. So I
went and got one of those dryboxes, like the plastic ground plastic amo
box and put them in that.And I went ahead and I put my
registration in there, and my whistlein there and every nothing, which,

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yeah, you don't never know,you might not never need them, but
it's always good to have, especially, you know, one of them people's
phones would have died and they wouldn'tbeen able to send us that pain.
Yep, you know. And luckilyit was a south wind. So I
told shirts part. I said,they're not going off shore. I said,
the tides coming in and the southwind, you know, south east.
I said, they're coming to wardsto heal. I said, so
they're not drifted out. Well,but what if it had been you know,

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let's say a twenty mile hour northwind before we got down there to
them because it was an hour out. You know, it was all in
town and they were at the beach, you know, watching them keating beach
area down there. Well you knowwhat would have happened then that they couldn't
anchored out they'd been gone, butthey'd been out there. Ways. Anyway,
I tell you that I think someform of bote or education should be

(32:22):
required by for everyone. Yeah.You know when when we go to our
c school for our captain's license,I mean, you learn so much stuff
that the average person should know.And then of course we learned a bunch
of stuff that we'll never use.We probably don't even remember it. Yeah,
I know I don't. Yeah,but a lot of it's eye opening,

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that's right. Yeah. And someof the stuff is good information to
have. Some of them we won'tnever use, Like can't even saying,
you know they use them in thebig ports and stuff like that. But
that's right. They cramped two weeks. Have a different kind of lights,
yeah, the booiez and you knowthe home signals. It's like, I
don't have none of this stuff on. Like someone on a man tried to
get me to he says, youshould go and get your masters. I
said, for what where you candrive a big boat? You know,

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a something A hundred times. Iguess sir, I'm not going into the
ocean. I'm not. I'm doingthis for like some of them, I'm
not going. This is be awaste of my time. You wouldn't.
You wouldn't drive a barge over thereand be like, uh, you know
the captain what was that movie about? Right there? What's the name of
that movie? Captain? What?Uh? What do you got? The
Samoeian Pirates got him right there?Oh? Yeah, well that was a

(33:25):
good one. I know what you'retalking about, Pirates survey. Yeah,
anyways, I can't for the nameof the dog of a movie? But
yeah, could you imagine? SeaSchool is a good company. That's a
great people do a good job atSea School. Adams is good. Adams
is what has done to ours?They do a lot of them. You

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know, I think they got didn'tthey have one this sting hatching out too
long ago? Or they got onecoming up? Yeah, I don't know.
Mister Mike Adams right there, he'seighty four, eighty five years old,
but he is the man and heknows. I'll teach it too.
I tell you what, but theCoastguard is so outdated with their stuff.
It takes forever for to get anew license. To renew your license.

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If you got to renew, youbetter plan on five six months. Well
I just renew mine. How longdoes it take? I haven't got it
yet. So they've had mine forsix weeks and it still says waiting to
be reviewed. And what else theydoing? You know, they probably are
sleeping, taking a nap. Well, the thing is that they don't have

(34:30):
the technology that other branches of themilitary do, which is mind blowing that
when you mail it in, youknow, you can't do it online.
First off, you have to mailit in. Then this office gets it
and they have to mail it tothis office, and then it comes mail
back to that off and it goesto like five different offices. Now with
y'all being on the bay, youhave to have your twit card. No,

(34:52):
so you only have to have yourtwit card when you first get your
license. Okay, I was wonderingif but if you're running close to a
port, you may have to haveit. You had to go in and
in or in and out of theport. Got you that tweet? Car
believed not. It helps you outa lot when you you're traveling. It's
kind of like a passport almost,you know. I mean you can when

(35:12):
we was going into big power plantsand stuff. We had to have it
just to get into power plants andstuff. So it's it's something to have,
you know, and you know usedto. That was the big turnaround.
The first time I got a tweetcard, I don't know, eight
or nine years ago. It tookme probably two months to get it back,
and I didn't have nothing on myrecord. Well I know some guys
that it didn't take, but youknow, two weeks, sometimes a week,

(35:36):
but this time, in four days, they were shipping mine out.
Yeah, that's where mine was.It blew my mind how quick it was.
I was regretting that waiting on atweet card where I can. I
didn't even renew mine. No youdon't. You don't need it, No,
not for what I'm doing either.No, well no, you don't
need a little late. But yeah, man, the scarred it's like they

(36:00):
get all the hand me downs.Yeah, they're they're playing helicopters, oh
yeah, everything, So you knowthey are the last of the military branch.
Hey, while I'm thinking about it, what is today's date? Let's
see today's this. Well, yeah, so it's the eighth I had to
look on my phone. So weare just past it. But time for

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the quota permits. So second phasewill be coming out for your wildlife manager
AIA quota permits. Oh yeah,so the drawing results should be any day
now. But you know, ifyou didn't get drawn, don't forget to
put in for second phase. Ithink it was the you're talking about for
the gators. Gators, No,for deer hunting. Oh man, we

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thought we was talking about gators.No, No, the gators is over
with. Yeah, yeah, youwin the lottery. No, you didn't
know. I didn't get anything.Dad was almost one got to tagged.
Yeah, did you put in forthe super hunt? A few of my
friends got the super Hunt? Didthey really statewide super hunt or whatever?

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Well, we got to go toa quick commercial and we'll be right back.
Hey guys, welcome back to theshow. For the final segment of
Kenny's go was wrong? Just aboutlike you said, he don't catch cats?

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Some dates about the hunting quotas.Yeah, so while we were on
break, I looked it up andThe last day to apply for first phase
of the deer hunting quotas is onJune fifteenth, So be sure and go
on if you haven't already and applyfor your quotas. That's when scallop season
starts, does it, Yes,June fifteenth. I will be on the

(37:51):
water. You'll be on the water. I will be on the water.
Ain't that scarlet's over there? Arethey? No? No, I will
be over in the all Silla areascolloping. No scolloping, Paul, what's
going on man? On the freshwater? Well? I tell you,
the bike's been The bike's been prettygood. Had some had some folks this

(38:12):
week coming up and had a ladycatch a big old seven pound bass on
a top water bait and that wasawesome. We actually had to hunt that
fish you like, you know,like you do a big deer. Just
wait for the right times. Isaw it. I saw the fish blow
a brim up out of the water, and and we missed the opportunity to
catch it the first day. Butwe hit it that's the spot or the
area a couple times and finally shecaught it on there on our last uh

(38:35):
last morning, and it was itwas awesome. So it was awesome top
water. It was a Berkeley.It's called a Berkeley spin Pop's got two
little props on it. Yeah,and it's about two inches long. It's
right now. The brim are small, you know, they're the ones that
were seeing them hit. They're prettysmall, and man, I tell you
what they were. It was explosivestraight. It was cool. Yeah.

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Sometimes I like to own size likethat too. Match the hatch. That's
right. That's right. And asI go into towards the fall of the
year that I go to bigger baitshad time to grow and get bigger,
for sure. But it's been good. The water temperature is eighty seven after
this, after this weekend, orit's probably gonna be eighty nine or ninety.
But it is getting hot and it'sgetting hot quick. But the bass

(39:21):
are biting, especially on Lake Seminole, there is some the water's starting to
clear up. There's gonna be,like I said, a big tournament up
there this weekend. And I knowLake Talquhen. I had a buddy of
mine called me from Lake Talquin andsaid this bass are schooling around on Lake
Talquin and the mouths of the creekson shad and really been catching a bunch
down there. And he said oneof his buddies, I won't say which

(39:42):
dock he was in, what creek, but he said he's been catching two
and three pounds crappy off his dock. Wow, that's a big crappie.
And I had the same lady Ilsetelling you about they call it that seven
hour She called a three pound crappy. It blew up on that top water
bait and hit it like a basson top of the water. It was
awesome. Wow, is it?Is it deeper water? Yeah, we're
sitting about thirteen foot Okay, thatmakes more sense then. Yeah. As

(40:07):
them baths, they scattered out rightnow they yeah, yeah, you know,
I'm seeing that a lot. You'reseeing some scattered. There's a few
places where you can find them kindof bunched up on shell bars. But
for the most part that the lake'sbeen so muddy on Seminole this year,
the grass is not as thick asit usually is, and it's got them
spread out for sure. Any ofyou ain't been doing a bass fishing,

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have you? No bass fishing?Well? Saltwater bass fishing? Oh?
Man, here we go, Imean here about that golden spoon. Oh
man, that's my favorite little whatever. You don't you don't like that,
uh Tanner special, that one withthe two little hooks. No, remember
I'm talking about that. Oh yeah, we gotta talk about here at Yaziri

(40:52):
he can't remember the name of it, has got them two little hooks on
it. So yo Zuri does makea nice little gold crank bait. Not
crank bait, wake bait. Yeah, that's that's been a clutch. Yeah,
I bet that would work good.But you know it's right now?
Is y'all's grass? Last time wetalked, there's a lot of flow this

(41:15):
time of year. It's always bad. That's why I throw a lot of
gold spoon out for that spin spindinga little bit better than he can someone.
Yeah, travel with spoon. Yeahyeah, you throw a top water
plug right now. It's every othercash you're pulling grass off. Yeah,
it's bad. I mean, andyou know, I still you know a
lot to do with it is youknow, those shrimp boats. But what
what's mainly? I mean that prettymuch it water heating up, water heating

(41:37):
up on the grass shedding. Thegrass shedding it does every year, does
does a home too, same thing. Yeah, and there's no shrimp boats
there. That's right, there's noshrimp boats natural and my am, I
am, I have a I'm livinga cove that in a canal that goes
into my dock. And I noticein the mornings it's water is all clean,
nothing, and the afternoons, whenit warms up, the stuff floating

(42:00):
all in there company is kind oflifting off the bottom. Oh so you
live on Yeah, very fortunate.We didn't. We didn't know that.
He's probably got them baited up byhis dog. Oh, you'll go right
on the dot. I got someto my next door neighbors. He's got
to under the water. I keepsome. I keep some uh chicken scratch

(42:21):
in there and throw it out forthe brim and little kids can wear and
catch them all the time. Theyhave a good time. Yeah, you
know a lot of the like tacle, I noticed a lot of them dogs
and people have fish. Oh theygot lights on them this time of the
year, or to them. Fishwill come to them lights at night because
you know it's cooler at night,and you think they're kind of more active.
But yeah, that's a that's theway you really catch a big one.
And a lot of them. Theyjust feed them. They like to

(42:42):
see them. Oh yeah, theydon't. I don't like nobody. The
fishing around the dog. They kindof eyeball, you know. That's right,
that's right. Then they'll they'll putthem green lights underneath the water.
Yeah, and they'll draw fish.I'm ready to go back there. I
want to go talk on the payphone. Yeah, by that Marina. Yeah,
it's only that's that's down at whipperwilleon Lake Talquin. Yeah. I
couldn't. I couldn't believe it hasgot a payphone out in the order.

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My kids saw their first payphone thisthis past week. Really, somebody.
We were in New York. Wewere in New York City, New York.
Yeah, from Pennsylvania to New York. So we went we went to
our first stop was in Lancaster,PA, the Amish area, and then
we went from there we went toManhattan Times Square. Well, we actually

(43:28):
went to Newark, New Jersey,and got on a train and I was
way out of my element. Wegot to Times Square. Uh yeah,
let me the payphone was in TrumpTower by the bathroom. Really, I
remember one time going up in NewYork. That's back and forth that he
still had the Twin towers. Andwhen I got off that subway and there
were people laying in on the groundon the subway floor, and I got

(43:52):
out of that place and I waslike, please get me back to Lake.
Someone all this is smelt like Garin. I don't I didn't like New
York. I never went back thereany protesting, No, but we were
actually in the Trump Tower when hecame back the yeah, yeah, well,

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I guess you could say that itwas I tell you if you if
you've never been up in that area. But probably my most favorite part of
the trip was in Lancaster, youknow, just going through that that little
Amish community. You talk man,you talk about really reflect not that I
want to become Homish. Me wrong, right, my mustache off for the

(44:43):
mask. But I tell you itmakes you. It makes you want to
take a step back and slow downin life. So you know, if
you want to take a step back, you want to slow down in life,
what better way to do that thanto spend some time on the water
fishing. That's right, actually,like the right you know, like the
old Larry Fleet song says, youknow the where I find God When the

(45:05):
fish jump back to sit, topull back and just drifts along, you
know, good song. Kenny doesa lot of that because he can't find
a fish. Happened when you whenyou catch him so fast that you ain't
got to worry about her all day. That he got his lessons from Michael.

(45:27):
A man, we're gonna get himon here. Yeah, we got
it. He probably won't come on. He ain't gonna have fast enough.
He'll have to write a We hadto give him aou two or three weeks
head. Notice that way he couldhave stuff to write down to come back
on me about. I don't knowthat volume novel goes high enough. He
wouldn't know what to say. Hedidn't have to come back fast enough.

(45:51):
He'll think about what he's gonna say, but then he just leave his mind.
That right, But yeah, welike messing with Michael. So nobody
taking care for not bullying nobody onhere. We're just picking right. It's
kind of like we do with Tanand everybody else. And Kenny's got a
phone call. That's why I havemy and it's a it's another dog guy
from Mississippi. What you know,what else did y'all do out there?

(46:14):
I mean the Amish community. Dothey have do they have like for tourism
and stuff? You can see whatthey do? Oh yeah, I mean
we interacted with them. We weactually, uh we we bought so we
we had. I went there fora seminar in the mountains of Pennsylvania.
When that's where I was when Iwhen I talked to y'all last last show.
Anyways, I tried to get himgo ahead, so we were part

(46:38):
of the seminar. We provide foodfor the group and everything. So my
buddy says, hey, man,make sure we get some dessert. And
I seen a sign said fresh strawberrypie. And we pulled up there and
it was an Amish house and theAmish lady came out and she literally we
literally sat in her driveway and waitedfor her to make the pie. Oh

(46:59):
man, yes, right then,yes, how long did it take?
Thirty minutes? Man? I betthat thing was good. And the strawberries
are fresh out of the field.Now, let me tell you I have
had some good barbecue, but letme tell you there was something about that.
We got some smoked chicken and ribs, and I've never it's never tasted

(47:20):
so good in my life. Soright, after that. That was at
a little tourist tourist trap area,you know, a little Homish farm kind
of you pay to go through there. It's not it wasn't really Amish,
but it's just a replica deal.So anyways, we hired a tour guide
uh from that place and took usaround there. And when we were coming
back, he said, hey,make sure you stop at the barbecue stand.
He said, that's all Amish.The Amish own it, they run

(47:44):
it, they cook and everything.He says, you'll never experience barbecue like
that anywhere else. He said,what you were eating they killed that day.
It's that fresh, and you knowit. It ain't like it at
some of these places where they're slapfull of steroids, no, no,
their stuff. Whoa, I betthat was good man. I'm telling you

(48:05):
that chicken was I didn't eat anyof the reds because all I could eat
was one chicken leg. Did yousee him chasing the chicken down in the
field or catch anywhere? That hadbeen my favorite part. But let me
tell you that weather was beautiful.Oh my god. It was the high
temperatures up there. Seventy oh man, seventy. Yeah. Saturday loads were

(48:28):
loads were in the low fifties.That was a good breathing weather. Yeah.
Then then we hit about South Carolina, coming back in reality. Yeah,
I got hot dawn. Back toFlorida we go. Oh yeah,
and I got an eight hour tripSunday ninety seven degree high. No when
I'll think about you when I'm sittingout ac but uh we uh man we

(48:53):
I'm ready. I'm ready for wintertime again. A lot of people don't
want to see winter, but I'mready for winter time. Yeah. That's
good fishing in the wintertime. Ohyeah, but we running out of time
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