The Big Bend Outdoors Show 06.15.24

This is the Big Bend Outdoors Show with Joel Baldree

Original Airdate 06.15.24

Today's guests include: Captain Paul Tyre, Captain Kenny Mullins, and special guest Dale Bessey.

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Episode Transcript

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This is the Big Bend Outdoor Showwith Joel Baldry. Today's guest include Captain
Paul Tyer, Captain Kenny Mullins andspecial guest Dale Bessie. Here's your host,
Joel Baldry. All right, guys, welcome to the b BN Outdoor
Show. We got Captain Catfish KennyMullins listening to give us the tide reporting,

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and uh, we're gonna see what'sgoing on with the weather this weekend.
It's supposed to be hot, ain'tit. Yeah, So we'll talk
about weather and start. It's it'sgoing to be hot, you know.
High ninety nine today, lowest seventyseven with tomorrow being a high of ninety
eight with the lowest seventy seven witha forty percent chance of rain. It's

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that time of year, these afternoonthunderstorms, you're gonna have them every that's
about. And as far as tides, today it will be a three point
twenty seven high at nine thirty nineam, a low of zero point ninety
five at four fourteen pm. AndSunday will be a high at three point
four to four at ten nineteen amand zero point six at five twenty eight

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pm. Low dude is calling ninetynine a high ninety nine, that's not
counting, right, what's it gonnabe about one fifteen Saturday? I heard
one on nine. Yeah, heatindecks. I heard one on nine heat
indecks. But I'll tell you what'sfunny about this weather right now is that
not only is it changing by theday, it's changing by the hour.
Monday, I looked at the weatherreport. I got family coming in.

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I'm going to be going fishing withthem Saturday morning, and uh we looked
at the weather and at seventy percentchance Friday afternoon of severe thunderstorms. Now
today twenty yeah, yep, it'stwenty percent chance of rain. So,
you know, flip a coin andanybody you know pretty much be a meteorologist.

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And I'm glad you mentioned that becausethis time of the year, I
get a lot of people, youknow, last minute they want to cancel
because the weather. And I said, look, you know, I'm not
canceling yet, you know, becauseit'll change. And most of the time,
if it says seventy eighty percent chance, it's in the afternoon, because
it's that's right. You know.The way that the weather works is,
you know, the land heats upso much and it draws everything in from

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from the shore. And most ofthe time those storms build up on the
shore and you're still fine, Ohyeh out there on the water. Yeah.
I've watched them build up right thereat shoreline, like you're talking about
what I've been coming back from offshore, kind of dragging around, following
one in and then another one buildup behind you. You just got to
go yeah, yeah, And unlessyou run, you know, east or

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west, sometimes you can get outof it. I've had a run stain
hatch you before you know, abad one coming in, keating right there
and just go behind it and comein because you have one right behind you.
It's just it's a mess. Butthis time of the year, in
the summertime, it's that's why wealways leave before daylight. You want to
get out there and get your fishingdone and be back off the water about
two o'clock because three or four OClOyou can expect to thunder and start being
Oh no, I've already I've alreadyinformed my guests that we'll be off the

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water by eleven o'clock. It's gonnabe so hot you can't stand it.
Anywhere by ten thirty is starting toheat up. I'm gonna be at the
ramp at eleven and we're heading home. Fish or no fish. Yeah,
and this family trip, so it'snot like a guided trip, which I
don't do because I'm not a licensedcharter Countain. But I never take money
for a trip. But I toldhim, I said, listen, I

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said, you know, fish orno fish. We're heading home by eleven
o'clock. So this two dug.I'm hot, yeah, And I do
want to I do want to say, even though it's hot, well most
of the time, it's cooler onthe water, you have that breeze the
majority of the time. As longas you have a breeze, you know.
And I'm seeing a trend this yearwhere I'm seeing less and less bookings.

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And it's not just in our area. I was in Crystal River yesterday
and the guides they're saying, hey, our bookings are down. We're thinking
it's because of the heat. Butit feels good out on the water.
It's not because that. It's becauseof the last four years. And that's
all I'm gonna say about that.But it's fitting to change. At November,
man, I tell you. Hasthat anything to do with the solar

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panels. We got a new sheriffcoming to town. That's all I'm will
say. And it'll get better,to get better. Speaking of new,
Speaking of new, have you heardabout the new boat that Arzilla Outlaws has
acquired? I heard actually last week. I heard about it. Darcilla Outlaw

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Charter Company. Oh that's your company. Yeah, yeah, what's going on?
Nothing? We acquired a thirty sixfoot yellow fan. Yeah, we
picked it up. We pick itup tomorrow and we're gonna be out on
the order all weekend. Now didthey acquire a captain that can run it?
You know? I was just thinkingabout that. I was like this,

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my lord, that this captain hasbeen going off shore since he was
twelve years old, and there ina thirty six foot in drive. But
I mean drive, you know whatI mean? Who drove it? I
did? Oh boy, they wouldlet me. Hey, that was that
was some of the trips. Itell you the reason we come back because
Daddy and even run out of beer. And but I was the captain pretty
much the whole time. And that'swhat I was saying about following that head

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and then they'd wake up the nextmorning after me driving out or all night
where we was going. And Ihave circles because I couldn't see a night.
It's just steadily the waves to pickyou up and turn you around.
You want people to get on theboat with you. That's when I was
twelve, man. Yeah, thingshave changed. Yeah, instead of going
left, I go right. Now. Those circles, that's why you do

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so many circles in the air boat. Yeah. So on a thirty six
foot boat, how far can yougo out on that? As far as
you can? Very much fuel youcan hold? And how much does it
hold? Five hundred gallons? Who? Man, that s a lot of
fuel. Is it a diesel orguess? Man? This cast has got
three three fifties on it. Threefifties. Let's do the math on that.

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Hey, how much is that threetimes three fifty? Well that what's
the math? Come on, man, tell me, tell me, tell
me, tell me. I'm sorry, there you go. Man, that's
a lot of ponies, brother,Yeah, seventy eight, seventy eight.
Get away from the stores that leftof you. See, Yeah, outlaws,

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we didn't expect that out of me. You coping off guard a little
bit. We can out run theirboat. But I can't out run their
helicopter that radio two way radio.So it's a getter out there. He's
got to worry about the federal fisheries. Also, Oh the friend of Riley's.
Yeah, yeah, there you go. You get out there in international
orders. Everything changed, the coastguardto pool. You know, I never

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even thought about that. I've neverfished him. I mean, I've been
off shore like three times in mylife. There's a lot. There's a
lot to it. You know.Everybody thinks that people charge a lot that
you know, when you're charging anywheretwo or three thousand dollars a trip for
six people. But they got tolook at the insurance and all the stuff
into it. The in the licensingfor to be able to target reef and

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allegics. That was thirty thousand dollarsby itself just for the license. Wow.
So when you get ready to bookan offshore trip, and I tell
you, if you're looking for agood you know, to go have fun
and everything, especially like bachelor parties. You want to do a really cool
bachelor party, Yeah, go outon that on that yellowphant. That's a

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cool trip. That's a really cooltrip. We'll definitely. Uh, you
know, entertain you do. Iget a broke guy, discount broke.
He's got a broke God dis gun, I get a broke guy. I
can give you ten gallons. Youget us saw the port, you know
the boat the boat to run,you know, forty forty five and you

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know that's cruising speed and it getsone point one miles of the gallon.
So that's actually not bad for onepoint on. That sounds like my first
pickup truck. Yeah, that's anold forde were three six that force.
You put gas in it and Iturned around. I wasn't even driving it.
That's put more gas in it.Yeah. Man, we we ecided
about adding it. Like I said, it's it's changing up a little bit.

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You know what we got going onat the store too. We uh
in the process now of you know, getting four cabins put there, and
you know it's everything's gonna change.At the beginning of the year, it
was gonna be a whole new year. Great things are happening. Yeah,
great thing and that's it couldn't happento better folks. Y'all, y'all run
a good operation down there, yourdad, your family, everything, But

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the new CEO. Uh, Tysonis his name. Have you met him
yet? And I have. Yeah. We actually had lunch yesterday and Uh,
I'm gonna tell you something. He'she's a tough negotiator, he really
is. Yeah, he's all abouthe's all about the dollar for sure.
We had somebody coming here a whileback and uh, they tried to pay
me for something that was something sillyI helped him do and he's like,

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I'm just gonna pay Tyson. Sohe had a twenty he was gonna give
me, and he turned around,Uh, had a five in his other
hand. He said, here,Tyson, I'm just gonna pay you.
He says, uh. Uh,he pointed that twenty. I said,
man, he was gonna give itto me. He said. I figured
he would fall for anything, buthe wanted that twenty five. He knew

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he knows what he's doing. Yeahhe does. He's a very smart young
man. Yeah, it's uh,where do you get that from? I
don't know, man, Sometimes Iwonder, you know, if the milkman
was involved on he got that out, Jared, if you could, we

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don't need any special calls. How'show's the water looking up there on jail
on Seminole. The water's cleared upa lot, it's getting the water's warm,
and man, I tell you alltalking about this this weekend, we're
gonna have this high Temperature's gonna bethat way up there too. But in

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the mornings it is nice. Iwas, I was out this morning,
not this morning, but one daythis week and man, I ended up
putting a little sweatshirt in the morning. Didn't last very long, but it
was. It was very comfortable outthere. But the water color is definitely
clearing up. Lake's Lake Talque's clearingup to the There's some there's a lot
of crappee being called out a littlebit deeper down about twelve to fourteen foot

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of water out down there. ButLake Simhole is definitely clearing up, which
means probably we're gonna have a bunchof rain coming, but I don't see
it in the forecast though, Jess, you better knock on. I don't
want any We are finally clearing upand you start to see you're able to
actually see down in the water.You know, our visibility has been less
than a foot and a half offspring. We need a couple of little
showers in afternoon to get that's right. Cool things off gos right, that's

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not down, that's right. Butit seems like, you know, you
get them a little bit of rains. At that rain it gets real hot.
That's when that humid humidity still.Yeah. I tell you, I
tell you. What do you donow? You're saying on the coast this
weekend? Guys, I started usingthat fan, that cobalt fan with that
sits on a bucket eyes, thatcools you off. You let the thing

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that miss just it'll get you throughjump in the water. Well, yeah,
but you've got sharks. Ain't doingthat up there. We got gators
yellow fan yellow. Yeah, they'vegot air conditioning. Oh, the yellow
fants. Yeah, that's seventy milesan hour. That's big dog stuff.

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They make them like that for sure. I mean gallons? Does your boat
take ball? Oh? Mine?I hold eleven? I got a bear
boat in yours. Mine holds twelve. Well that's one of them. The
other boat holds fifty gallons. Buton a on a day using the bass
boat, I probably burn. IfI burn more than twenty gallons, I'm
running. I ain't fishing. Howabout you, Kenny? What does your
mine? Mine holds? Twenty one, and I rarely burn more than ten

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in a day, and I dosome running. You know, I've got
a mercury. We got to goto a quicker Hey, we got we
got to go to got to goto a quick commercial. We'll be right
back talking about Kenny's boat. Hey, guys, welcome back to the show.

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We was ending the conversation while talkingabout Kenny's Mercury on the So can
you tell us a little bit aboutyour boat? What you're running. I
have a twenty two foot micro draftextreme a few familiar to those. It's
a tunnel hole, and I haveit so that I can get back into
Joel's airboat trails. Oh wow,Okay, he can't get there when there's

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no water. But I seen avideo that's pretty cool on them boats that
they was actually oysters sticking out thewater and this guy come through a little
cutting. It didn't look like itwas three or four inches of water on
top of this oyster bar. Herun right across it, no matter,
never jumped or nothing. It wasabove it. Yees. So I went
into this creek. This was twoor three years ago. I had some
charter captains on the boat. They'refrom Alaska their Halibit guides. And I

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was going into this creek and youknow how it gets negative tides. I
had just enough water about the widthof the boat maybe, and the water
was about three or four inches deep, but I knew that I could get
through it. I had about aI don't know, eighty yard stretch I
had to go through that. I'mrunning the jackplate up and I hammered down
and they turned around and looked backat me. And I used to have
cushions where they sit on, likeon top of the light wells. You

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can see them gripping those white knuckleon them. And I get back in
there, and you know, youknow how the creeks are, they drop
off. It goes to about fourto six feet deep, and you know,
I slowed down and turned around.Looked at me and said how deep
was that back there? I said, I don't know about four inches.
It's four inches. We start panickingwhen we hit one hundred feet, I

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know, right. But I gotback there and there was an airboat back
there. No it wasn't. Joel, there's everybody. He looks at me,
he said, how the heck didyou get in here? What size
botors on it. So when Ihad it built, I had a one
fifteen and I just repowered a fewweeks ago and I put a one to
fifty on it. You've repowered andthen what was it? Next morning?

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Picked up a little something special whenyou were leaving? What was that all
over the prop plastic or whatever?Oh? Yeah, so yeah, I
seen that. Yeah it was.It was a negative tide and I went
to leave the dock and it wasa lot lower than I thought it was.
I didn't have the jack plate up, and it was a some kind
It was an outboard motor cover thatwas in the muck on the bottom.

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And as soon as I took offwas the first day I ran the boat,
it spun up on the prop andthe motor kicked out. I'm like,
oh man, what in the world'swrong? And all it was that
wrapped up on the prop. ButI was heading out on a trip.
Now, when you say motorcover,you're talking like a canvas cover. Yeah,
one of those canvas covers they putover the cowlings. Yeah, sureackplate

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diase Bob's Bob Bobs machine. Ifthat Ben Yamaha just chopped it up on
going. When I had the boatbuild. I had a Yamaha on it.
You got another boat too, don'tyou. I have a couple.
I have a I have an eighteenfoot Sea Arc aluminum, and then I
have a nineteen foot bay liner thatwe ran out Sea Arc. We were

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talking about I was talking about thatwith Paul though. Yeah, that's a
nice boat he's got. And it'sgot a seventy on it or something.
It's an eighteen sixty Sea Arc.I put a sixty on it. It's
it's rated for up to a ninety, but I put a sixty because I
duck hunt out of it and Iwanted I wanted less weight than wanted to
run really skinny. So yeah,that's a nice little setup. That boat
is the sea orcs man. Theymade some wide aluminum boats. Oh yeah,

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my boat I run. I runtwenty foot express and uh it's wide.
It's real wide. Very stable.But and you've been in it.
You fished out of it. Verystable boat and everything. But we were
talking about it, and he waslooking at adding a boat to his fleet.
Captain Paul was and I told him, I said, you need to
look at Sea Orc. I lovemy Sea Arc, you know. And

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it's not a bigger one because Ibuilt it for what I needed. I
mean, Joelsen, I completely guttedthe whole thing and and redid it to
how I wanted it, because Ibrought the console, the console all the
way back and uh put a reardeck, but I wanted the front more
open for all the decoy rigs andwhen I'm gator hunting out of it,

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or duck hunting, or I haveI have more room in the front.
Well, uh, you know,you can. It just goes to show
that, you know, whether it'sa thirty six foot boat or an eighteen
foot boat, you make it yours. You go out and you catch fish.
That's right, And there is neverno perfect boat. That Sorry,

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you're right, You're you can.You can take a john boat and go
fish and have this as good astimes in a in a fifteen foot john
boat as you can a twenty footboat. Oh yeah, you know.
I mean it's just in a kayakeven canoe. And I got two kayaks
for sale right now. Well,I need to talk to you. I'm
gonna go ahead and tell you this. If you see me in a kayak,

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y'all, stop and get me.Somebody has done. Took my murder.
Somebody is quick and I had toget away somebody I had done something.
If you see me on one thatis not me, that is my
evil twin. Hey. But youknow what, they're stealthy and and one
thing you'll learn kayak fishing, youyou'll really learn how to maximize your your

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time in your area. You know, one thing about the kayak guys,
they're limited. You know, eveneven some of the top guys like uh
Matt Matt with the yak you know, he wins just he's in the top
of nearly every red fish tournament.But you know, you talk to him
and he's like, I have amaximum five mile range one way, you
know. But they catch fish.He catches fish every time he goes out.

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He makes the best of it.It's because well they just they grind
out those areas well. That wegot a lower area. Will Color Beach
a beautiful area and you can gothere and launch right there on the beach,
right there in the sand, andyou can go out there and catch
red fish, trout, whatever,right there in Goose Bay area. You
don't have to go nowhere. Andit's a good area to kayak fish because

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a lot of your bigger boats andeverything. There's so many oyster bars and
rocks and everything that keeps the bigboats out, and having that kayak makes
it nice. You know, youcan roll right in there and fish and
enjoy this. I'll tell you whatI had this year. There was a
there's kayak terments on, like someoneon. They can put it into different
ramps, you know. Like yousaid, I took some of those guys

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out just kind of showing them around, and they only have like a five
mile radius. And I was goingto pick up some folks and I went
by a gator it probably easily fifteenfoot or giant. And I saw a
guy in a kayak and I say, hey, budd, there's a gator
around the corner and he's quite biggerthan your kayak. Next thing iternally he's

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coming back the other way. Itwas. I tell you you don't have
a problem to get her. Butwhat you will do people a lot of
people go up beside them, andyou know they'll come off the log and
sometimes they might accidentally knock every butwhat you don't need to do. This
time of the year is breeding season, so you're getting around them and stuff.
They getting fired up. It's nota good idea to get up close

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to them. You're really not helpingme try I'm trying to I'm gotting Paul
here, jump right in. Imean, they're not after to eat you,
you know what I mean. ButI mean, I don't know if
anybody has been attacked by a gatoron a kayaks as the ones that pull

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up an attacked by a shark ona kayak, so that that doesn't really
happen. But like you're saying,when they start being aggressive and they got
a rent, you're in the shallowairs where there's definitely some some young gators
that are just hatching you. Youwant to be aware of your surroundings,
like you doing anything else. That'sright. But that's the problem with a

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lot of these people that you know, just love the outdoors and and love
the trees and everything. They thinkit's cool and they're friendly and they're harmless
and now get it right beside them, and so what do you expect's gonna
happen? You know what I mean. They're not respecting the wild. I
thought they should. But you know, kayaking is a great thing. It's
you know, especially you get onsome of these rivers, like like the
Swanee River and you go spring hopping, and you know, you kayak is

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just so peaceful, you know,you just don't think about anything else in
the world, and you're just floatingdown this river and paddling down the river,
you know, and it's a greatoutdoor activity for families. I put
a little transome, I got twotwelve foot kayaks, and I took a
little two by a two inch anglealuminum tramps some behind my seat, and
took a thirty five plus pound ora thirty five pound thrust troll the motor

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and cut the shaft on it andshortened up, and I put a twelve
out battery on it. And whenmy wife and I would take the kayaks
out, uh, she'd get tiredof paddling or whatever. I just throw
rope to her and we tie offto the ball or kayak and I just
pull her back. You put youput the trailer matter on yours instead of
hers? Yes, yeah, becausewell, no, I didn't use it

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when we were paddling. I usedto when we're going back up stream,
were turning back where we came from. What he saying he didn't trust her
driving that's what he's saying. Boy, I lead it out to a charter
captain to put a spin on it. And no wonder if the name spinning
reel, that's where that's probably whereit all began, you know. But

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no, you know, and Ihad another person asked me, he said,
you actually brought your wife back.Yeah, it was exclusive supper time.
Don't you even bring that up atthe next function. You know,
you're talking about places to go anothergood trip kayak trip is uh, you
know, putting in at the GoosePasture on the on the was Sissa and

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making the slave canal. You know, they made back eighteen hundreds coming out
right, I sell it. That'sa beautiful trip. I hain't done it,
but I've seen a lot of pictures. Yeah. Yeah, Harry Smith
does that triple. I don't knowif you know Harry Harry Smith. Yeah,
yeah, yeah. He does abig tournament every year with kayaks only.
Oh yeah out there point. Yeah. And he actually does kayak tours
on on the nice sky. Yeah. He's a great guy. Yeah,

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really really good person. I tellyou the funny when you're talking about kayaks.
Oh, Joseph Narto, Oh yeah, dude, he is a character.
He's got a YouTube channel and he'sall the time on this Uh I
think it's the Saint March, Yeah, this Saint Mark's fishing group. Yeah.
This this joker's always got something goingon. I mean he's and then
you know, he'll be out therein rough weather whatever, and he's got

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like a little four or five horsemotor. He's got mountain to the side
of this thing, so it'll rideout. I've been over fishing before.
After I just seen him at theboat rap and didn't know he had a
motor at the time, and allof a sudden, I turn around,
he's coming in the creek. Isaid, what in the world, And
then I look on the side hehad a motor. I was like,
this joke. And he's all thetime out there. I mean, rain
or shine, it don't matter.But he's always got something going on.

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He is a character. He grabHe's like, I'm turning my volume down.
I'm over here messling with Paul.Y'all can't see what we do,
and this show's going on. Butbelieve me, there's sheis. It's happening.
They trying to get me, probablywith the phone prank, and they
can't get me man, I turn. There's so much that goes on during

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this show that no one ever knowsabout. And the Shenanigans were like five
year olds, I know. Isit the red Fish tourment starting? You
know what? Hey, thanks forbringing that up. We got rocking Rigs
coming up. Not this weekend andfollowing weekend. Uh, the Gauge Pitman
Memoral. Yeah, we've got togo to a quick commercial. Man,

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We're gonna fire back up. Everytime I say we'll be right back,
hold on, they just shut medown. Ali, guys, welcome back
to the Big Men Outdoor Show.We was talking about the Rock and Reds

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Tournament. Yeah, Rock and RedsTournament. It's gonna be June twenty second
and twenty third there in Pannessee ofFlorida is the Gauge Pittman Memorial Rock and
Reds Fishing Tournament. This is agreat family Uh and this is I'm thinking
this is a third or fourth maybefifth year now telling them thell a little

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bit about what's going on, andyou know, you know what divisions and
stuff they got, well they gotyou know, I'm looking at the they
have kids division. Uh so,uh, they have kids with them.
They'll have kayak. Uh they youknow, you got offshore inshore. Uh,
you got snapper uh and redfish.And then on Saturday they're gonna do

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a trout bag as well. Uhso you Saturday only they're gonna do it.
They have a trout bag way inand you know, it's it's just
a great cause. Uh. Iknow that the payout is Uh. I
believe in the past it has alwaysbeen like one hundred percent, So it's
one hundred percent payout, and uhit's just a great great you know,

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a great family putting on a greattournament and memory of their son who was
outstanding young man, and uh,it's uh, it's one of those things
where I'm I've always been very proud. Uh not to slap myself on the
back, but I've had the opportunityworking here at iHeartMedia that I can get
involved with these organizations like Rock theRock and Reds and Rock the Dock and

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the the Beer and Oyster Festival andbasically Fantasy of Waterfront Association and helping raise
money for scholarships. So we putyou know, the past fifteen years,
we definitely put some kids in college. And you can't go wrong with that,
so took them to death about it. I'm working this literally met with

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the folks down there in Saint Mark'sthis morning. So they have an event
coming up in November that's going tobe a beer and seafood festival, and
I'm be working with them in theirWaterfront Association to get that up and go
on and everything. It's already they'vealready had it in the past. We're
just looking at teaming up to youknow, as a lead sponsor of it

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and everything. And it's just agood cause everything anything to do with helping
those in need, helping veterans,putting kids in college, anything in a
positive avenue. I'm game. Iwant to be a part of it.
I want our stations to be apart of it, and I want to
be down there because you know,being that we have radio stations in the

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markets, we're a part of thecommunity. People listen to us and they
and they count on us and everythingthat give them information when needed, whether
it's a storm or whatever. Andand I just love the fact that the
people respond and they can come tothe Beer an Oyster Festival. This past
year down in Panacea, here wasa couple of months ago, I guess

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drew almost ten thousand people. Wowin the park. If you've ever been
to the park in Panacea, it'snot a very big parking. We had
ten thousand people there. We raisedthirty five thousand dollars in that day.
Yeah, So it's a big dealwhen the public shows up and goes to
these events. It's a big dealfor the sponsors that are sponsoring the event.

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And at iHeartMedia here in Tallahassee.We are local. I know a
lot of people think that I heardain't local, But we do local as
anybody else. And we are veryproud to be a part of these you
know, part of these these tournamentsand everything. It's just it's good fun
for everyone. Yeah, there's enoughnegativity out there in the world and on
the in the media and stuff likethis. You know, no, man,

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this is what we need. Imoved I moved up here. I
moved up here twenty three years agobecause of the fishing. Yep. And
my wife will tell you that's that'sthe hand of God truth right there.
And that's what I say. It'sfishing, hunting outdoor area. Yeah,
and to be a part of it, it's like being a part of the
community for us, you know,and you know talking about that Rock and
the Reds tournament Friday, which isthe twenty first. The Captain's meeting its

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five thirty to seven and the registrationwill end at seven pm Friday night,
so there's no more restaurant after that. But they got I was looking at
the payouts. You know, it'sa hundred percent payout, like you said,
Dell, but first place is fortyfive percent, second place twenty five,
third, fifteen, four, ten, fifth, five percent. It's
a big dis pretty good, yeah, you know. And they got all

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kind of side pots too. Youknow, it's fifty dollars in under the
red Fish with the most spots.Winter takes off. You know, you
got a two day weight uh calcuttingyou know you could do and it's it's
just so much. There's gonna bea lot of money involved in this tournament.
I mean, I tell you,for the inshore guys, Redfish,
it's on fire. I mean typicallythis starts slowing down a little bit this

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time of year, but there wegot them. I had a guide last
year. I went out with aguid last year during Rock and Reds and
he put me on Red fish.We caught, We caught fish and everything,
but the poor guy, he didn'texpect it. But I ended up
getting like a heat stroke. Ohwait a minute, that was you won?
How many catfish did you cat?You know what we didn't know?

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We did not. We didn't catchany catfish. Now, if we did,
I tell you and everything, wedidn't. I believe, I believe
we could have finished in the topten at least if we'd have fished a
second day, I mean the firstday, seventh, eighth. Yeah,
I got I got sick from theheat. You know, speaking of that.
You know, one thing that weneed to talk about is is hydration

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and only. Yeah, you needto drink fluids before you get out in
this heat. And you don't don'twait till you get hot and thirsty to
drink. No, you need tobe drinking every hour the night before.
You don't need to be laying outdrinking all night either. That's experienced talking.
I do that. You're gonna bestupid. You gotta be tough,
That's what that is. But Icouldn't honestly say I've been there before.

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But no, it's good to hydratethe night before, you know, even
you know drank eight or nine glassesof water before bed, and then you
know you wake up that morning.Keep hydrating and don't just drink orter.
Drink something some swap it up.Yeah. The only thing that kept me
alive the week after that, thatthat trip was gatorade. That's what I
have my cup right now. Man. I tell you what. I Joel

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did a great trip that day.He put me on the fish and we
had a great time and and everything. And I took fish to scales,
but I was I waghed the fishin, measured it, and I got
back on my truck and went home. I was feeling terrible. Yeah,
And you know Paul was saying earlier, how some mornings this this past week,
it was it was a little chili. You had to put a light

(31:07):
sweater shirt on or something. Andthat's what gets you, you know,
these thirty degrees swings. Yeah,I mean that's what gets you. Yeah,
it does. You're right, Andyou know what, like I said,
it's gonna be over well over onehundred this weekend. This stay hydrated,
and you know they got hydration spots. I'm sure they got them in
stained hatching. I know they gotthem. And Keeting what's the name.
And in places they actually hydrate you. That was second wind hydration. The

(31:29):
second wind hydration. They got athing that they you know, you feel
in dehydrated to go there to hookyou up and you feel like a brand
new person when you're leaving. Wow. Yeah, that's that's what. That's
what got me by the last year. I'm not gonna lie is you know,
I had gastric surgery. I couldnot drink enough fluids. My stomach
was too small. I couldn't drinkenough fluids. I had to get weekly
ivs. Wow, what they got. You know, it's ain't just about
hydration too. They got bottomins andstuff they don't they Yeah, that you

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know, and like these uh nowthey have the ivy in a bottle?
Was it by a light? Stufflike that? Yeah? That that stuff.
Oh yeah, you got to makesure it stays cold. But yeah,
I mean, anything you can doto stay hydrated right this time of
year, you know, especially youknow, today's the opening day of scollop

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season. Yeah, you know,gum it is. Yeah, you get
it. You get in the waterand you start swimming around and you don't
realize how long you've been in thereand you're hot, you're you're exerting a
lot of energy, and you don'tdrink enough fluids. It'll get you quick.
Yeah. Please, people be carefulwhen you're scalloping this year. Don't
be out there drinking a lot ofbeer and alcohol and you get it out

(32:34):
water, because that salt and thatwater will drain it out of you.
You will be dehydrated before you knowit. Catch a cramp and guess what
it ain't anybody paying attention like theyneed to be. Yeah you gone,
yeah, yeah, two years ago, I think it was two maybe three
years ago, and anything that allrun together. I went out. I
had some people call mean. TypicallyI try to take off the around the
fourth of July because I don't wantto deal with the crazy people out on

(32:58):
the water. And I had someonecall me and they were about in tears.
They were they were in town withtheir family. Their boat broke down.
They couldn't get it fixed. Theshop said they couldn't get to it,
and they called me, said,well you please take us. I
was like, all right, yeah, i'll go. Well, I got
out there and they wanted me toget in the water with them. So
I was swimming, you know,for two days. I think they had

(33:22):
me book four days in a row. And uh I was out there swimming
with them for those two days andI didn't drink enough fluids. When we
got back to the dock the secondday, I could not walk to my
truck. Wow. I was crampedup so bad. It's not good.
That's imagine hitting you in the waterlike that. You know, you don't
never know what happened to you.And I've had it, you know,
in my leg where I just wantedto fall over back. Luckily I was

(33:43):
right there a by the boat andthey drug me in. Yeah, and
I'm out there every day. Iswim like a fish, you know.
I just didn't drink fluids and itgot me. Yeah, you get dehydrated
quick. I was drinking pickle juice. I mean everything you hear about,
I was trying it. I tellyou another thing good, believe it or
not. It's a teaspoon, apples, apple cider vinegar. I did that
and afternoons before bed, and youwon't cramp. Not applegar cramps. It

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not so that. So the guythat I that, well, you don't
have dog trained business. I havea guy that works with us and he
takes apple cider pills every day,and he said it helps him with his
with his sugar, his blood sugar, and his his cramps. He had
a heat stroke two years or lastyear or two years ago. And once

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you have a heat stroke, youcan't handle the heat. Yeah, it
gets you so much quicker. Andthat's actually helped him. You know,
I didn't think to mention that.Yeah, the pills, guys would be
a lot better. I'm telling you, it's something nasty going down and make
your tongue lord and make you makeyou look like you ninety years old.

(34:52):
Your face wrinkled up, right,Jo, you been doing inshore fishing?
No, man, it's it's toohot for me. I mean, I
ain't gonna That's why we're starting thisoffshore. And you know I can get
out there quick, you know,but you know what, the best time
now is the best time. Andyeah, going fishing is great. What's
going on? Jared's talking about youbehind your back one finger of them?

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Thank god, who's saying one andeverything? But going on an airboat ride
with these guys is a great timeto do that. Yeah, as long
as we ain't stopping. Yeah,because when you got that fan behind you
pulling that air through there you gettingit across the water. It feels pretty
good. Will you stop at thesprings do spring tours and oh yeah,

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oh yeah, we'll do that,you know, down to was sister or
you know, I've han't went onthe Swanye with it before. A lot
of people don't run their airboats onthe swannye you know, because it's so
dangerous with a swift water and deepwater. But if you're running it right,
you'll be You's got to have youknow, you got to have the
faith in your boat. He's stilldoing something doing silence again. We got
to go to a quick commercial.Our producers fishing to throw something. We'll

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be here. We are back,welcome back to the show. Tell me
about that spot? Ye spot?Can you just talking about commercial? Yeah?

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I was just saying the last weekthe fish bite has been really good.
I went through a you know,last week I told you all that
it hasn't been good. It's it'syou know, typical summertime bite. But
the last week they have really turnedon. And I will say this,
you better have a variety in yourbox or you're live. Well, you

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know, went out one day Ihad had live pin fish nothing for like
two and a half hours. Wewere red fishing to start, and we
caught our reds all on goldspoons.And then I decided to kick out when
the tide got right for trout.And I went two and a half hours,
no, no trout, and we'regetting right where the peak of the
bite should be in the tide andnothing, I said. I told one

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guy said, hey, let melet me see what I have in here.
I pulled out a box or atub of white gulp with a pink
tail, and I know, soakedit under a court and first cast bam,
keep her trout. We ended upwith it. We ended up with
a limit in about twenty five minutes. So on the popping court normally I'll

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do about two foot liter under that. What you do too? Or what
are you running? How deep wereyou so and a half? What I
do? Yeah, I've been runningabout about a twenty eight inch to thirty
thirty two inch liter until Dal infootage, that is what inches are.
Yeah, please just tell me allthe information you can tell me. Pretend

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like I don't know nothing. Yeah, so about it about promise not to
tell anybody So Dale, if youtake your feet and you put put them
heel to toe and then you layyour hand down there. That's about the
length of the leader I wear thirteen. Oh, you're about right about right.

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So I mean we are fisherman.We can't lie right. So in
my area, I primarily fish outof Keaton Beach, So you know,
going towards Steam Hatchie, you know, most of the trout is being caught
in that that seven to nine footrange, and so lot the water's a
lot clearer that way, you mightcatch something six six to nine I heard

(38:30):
to right, and that's that's whatthey've been catching there. And if you
go north out of Keaton or asyou guys would say west, as you
go around the bend west, Yeah, certain areas. Anyways, you know

(38:50):
as I go that I've been fishingthat way some too, and and most
of the trout there had been inthat three and a half to five and
a half foot range. You know, all the other boats have been way
out past me. And you know, I'm looking at the reports. They're
not catching fishing. I'm coming inwith limits, you know. But like
I was saying, change after thisshow, Yeah, please explain that real

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quick. That's South Park, don'tkill. But one thing I want to
say about my tactics is I'm makingvery long drifts. I'm talking mile long,
mile and a half long drifts.Oh yeah, just drifting. And
and what I'm doing is I'm on, I'm on the flats, and you'll
come like, you'll drift these flatsthat are three and a half to four

(39:43):
and a half foot deep, andthen it'll drop down into a trough and
the bidle quit and in that troughand as long as you keep going,
the bidle picked back up. Butwhat what I find this time of year,
if you circle back around and redriftthat that flat where you caught them,
you start beating those fish up prettyquick. And I make those mile
long drifts where I go from fromflat to trough to flat to trough to

(40:05):
flat, and then I make abig, you know, swing back around
and those fish stays the settled down. But like I was saying that day,
I switched to gulp and that madethe difference. The next day they
wanted the pinfish the good Well,you know, they're like everything. They
don't like eat the same thing allthe time, right, and they do

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move because they got fins oh yeah. But the one thing talking about that
drift and going over the deep spotsand everything, the one thing that uh,
these underground these underground under what arethese channels little creek you know,
they look like little creeks yep onthe on the map and everything else.
But what I noticed a lot oftime when you're coming up on those,

(40:45):
you'll get hit and after you passit, you'll get hit yep. So
they're almost on the edges of thoselittle areas. Think think about it.
They're like that for a reason.They're hit out in that grass or rocks
whatever they're in, and that baitcomes by, I guess what, Yeah,
the ambush. That's why they're sittingthere. And and you think about
it. Right now, the surfacetemperature, the surface water temperature is ninety

(41:08):
degrees where I'm fishing, I'll tellyou nowadays, you know, when it's
ninety degrees like that, Paul,it's called harp world. But laterly you
can get your crackers and I justgo at it. But if you if
you swim down to the bottom whenyou're in that you know, five six
eight feet of water, it startsgetting cooler. In the bass. Guys,

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I don't know why saltwater fishermen hasn'tdone this, and I haven't I
need to. But in the bassworld, they used to carry around a
thermometer that would sink down to theyou know, you could got one.
Yeah, I got a fish tankthermometer and I put weights on it,
and I got a bunch of fishingline. And what I'll do is I'll
tie the line off to a cleatand I'll throw the thermometer over and just

(41:53):
drag it along as I'm fishing,And that way I can pick it up
and tell what the temperature difference is. But mean, what I'm seeing on
my machine, which we all know, is a measurement of the top of
the water, you know, becausewe're not getting full depth measurement, and
I can pull that out and tellyou. Normally in the past, I've

(42:15):
found that it's one to two degreescooler. But with bait, that's all
it takes. That oxygen level isa little bit higher, that bait gets
in there, and where the baitis, that's where the fish are.
I thought you was joking negative.I thought she was having cousin Kenny.
Yeah, I told him today.Oh my lord, y'all see the catfish

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that boy caught this morning. FortyNo, I'm serious. I'll pull it
up and show you the picture.Forty five inches, forty seven pounds.
Wow. That Texas tackle company thathe's got going on out there is doing
quite well too. He's got tofigure it out. He's getting there.
Yeah, you're working on it.But I called him, uh to brag

(43:00):
on his fish and everything and tellhim that I know that someone else caught
that, and he took a pictureof it. He didn't not the sense
of teasing the U. But heuh, he caught a monster catfish.
I mean, that's a giant.What you should have says I see the
red streaks on were you shocked himtoo many times? There? He is
right here, look at him.Oh yeah, let me see. I

(43:22):
mean to tell you, son,Daln, he is bald like you.
Yeah, I know, and youknow why I raised her. He married
her side effects of the heather tornado. Yeah, now goes so you saying

(43:43):
she got that from your wife?Oh Lord, here we go, and
I still pull her up string.Do not edit that? Make sure?
Yeah, come in to work tomorrowwith two black eyes and those sandwiches.
You know why you come in withtwo black eyes. Right, she told

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him twice. Well, Paul,tell us about what's going on. Well
that day, the big bassard bitingon some of those, Yes, Dell,
I had a let's pass weekend.I was in a tournament and I
set the hook on one joe andthat I thought I broke a rib.

(44:30):
Fish got off, But we caughttwo biggins and they were in about six
inches of water being on brim.So you got brim that you got fished
or bigger bassart or feeding on brim, and then you got school and bassador
kind of out off off the banksa little bit deep water, that cooler
water that Kenny was talking about.But man, I tell you what,
with the water finally clearing up onlike Seminole, that I think the bass

(44:52):
fishing is going to be getting betterand better, especially early in the mornings,
late and evening cloudy days. Youknow, this time of year.
What what I do is I'll I'lldo a trip in the morning and then
a person's trying to book for acouple of days and we'll then we'll go
back out in the evening and yougot a lot better chance to get a
biggen. You know, you're talkingabout the tournament and everything. How'd y'all

(45:14):
do in the tournament? We endup we end up third and end up
getting Angler of the Year, meand my partner Nick Jet. Congratulations.
Yeah, that's cool. It wasgood year. Well, well we get
our entry fees paid next year.Oh nice, But it was it was
good. Had had a great event, and it's it's a it's a good
trail. But there was a highschool event going on the same weekend,

(45:36):
Saturday and Sunday, and uh,I do forty three I don't get I
don't get the name. Forty threepounds one. It's a four pound average.
That's that's that's catching them. Oh, yeah, that's good. What
are you catching them on? Top? Water frogs, buzz baits, prop
baits, walking baits, no livebait, he's no live bait. Oh.

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And then mayflies. Let me sayabout this. The mayflies have been
the biggest mayfly hatches I've ever reallyseen from the Addy's count Gunnery, which
is Old Wingate's Lodge, all theway to the dam, all the way
twenty miles up the Chatty River thispast weekend. So what does that mean?
Because that's Greek to me, y'alldon't have any kind of fly hatch
out there on the bay. No, well, mayflies. That's there's a

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in bast Master magazine on the frontcover this month's issue. There's a the
Magic of the mayflies. But theyhatch every every starting usually May, usually
about June, and it runs allthe way into September, October. And
soon as that's happening, you knowthere's been there's starting to be brim on
the bed and it's like, youknow, people don't think there's a guy.

(46:43):
You can see how in nature everythingworks together. You know. The
mayflies they come up from the bottomfrom and then they do their dance for
one night. They make babies diethe next day and they just feed the
fish. It's crazy. It's crazynow, you know, thinking about crappie.
Last year, we caught about fortybig crappie. Every single one of

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them had may flies, every singleone of them. Yeah, same thing,
same thing. Yeah that We dida lot of fishing with them with
my granny, did you know onrim poles and several Yeah, you hook
one of them one but they'll bitethat thing. That's why I pick them
off the lot poles and stuff andput them in a cricket basket. That's
why you know mister Dell makes thosethose awesome flies that he actually makes from

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scratch. And this right now,this time, and this will work all
the way into September. You canreally catch some really nice brown throwing mayflies
around, I mean throwing flies around. Where these may flies are hitting the
water, it's pretty cool. Yeah. The other day I had a friend
of mine was was out there andwas watching the larva come up from the
bottom and watching brim hit them beforethey're becoming a fly. That's cool.

(47:51):
You see, when you water,we ain't got invited men. Kenny had
into the you know, freshwater fishinglike Dale gets invited to go. I
know we keep asking, keep askhim. Got be honest with you.
I invited him. Who Let metell you that express boat. I was
a bat there in the back.He was running troll motor and I got
tangled up a little bit once heshowed me how to work a fly.

(48:12):
Rode, Kenny, you want totry that? Have you already fished fly
up for I have? Oh,you're already good at it. But you
don't want to say that, Joe. It ain't that hard. Well practice
I could really do that about thiswinter. We need to all get together
and go up to you know,North Georgia or North Carolina. You ain't
got to go far to get intoBrown and Rainbow country. We are out
of time, man, you gottedman. I'm sorry, Anigans. Thank

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y'all for joining the show right there, and hope to see y'all Saturday mornings
eight to nine, or see y'allHere'll from y'all. Yeah, y'all be
safe out there. You've been listeningto The Big Bend Outdoor Show with Joel
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