August 3, 2024 • 48 mins
This is the Big Bend Outdoors Show with Joel Baldree
Original Airdate 08.03.24
Today's guests include: Captain Paul Tyre, Captain Tanner Schwabb, Captain Kenny Mullins, and special guest Dale Bessey
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Original Airdate 08.03.24
Today's guests include: Captain Paul Tyre, Captain Tanner Schwabb, Captain Kenny Mullins, and special guest Dale Bessey
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is the Big Bend Outdoor Show with Joel Baldry.
Today's guest include Captain Tanner Swab, Captain Paul Tyer, Captain
Kenny Mullins had special guest Dale Bessie. Here's your host,
Joel Baldry.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Hi, guys, welcome to the Big Ben Outdoor Show. Finally,
after two years, in twenty nine days and six hours,
Tanner swabbed to finally catching all the catfish around the world,
he finally comes back. He made it back, Tanner. Uh,
since you're back, you get the honors and telling the
tides in the weather for this weekend.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Man, this weekend, the tide is low at nine o'clock
out of Saint Mark's and it's gonna be high again
at two thirty pm. It's gonna go from a one
point six to a three point seven. So you got
a good bit of war.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
But there ain't no possible chance of the hurricanes in
her go this weekend.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
Are they?
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (00:55):
There might be.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
We're not too sure. Where's gonna come in yet?
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Man, that things gotten scared angle lie latest model showing
it right up the alley again.
Speaker 5 (01:04):
Yeah yeah, boy, categories that's showing.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Get up to it. Too, but they were wrong last time.
Speaker 5 (01:09):
I know. That's the scary parts with the hot as
the golf is right now, I'm a little nervous myself.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
If it slows down like that other one. If it
would have slowed down last year, I tell you it
would have been bad. I than a five. It just
kept the speed up, thank goodness. And it broke down
when it hit land. That's all I was reading. Their
beaches didn't get ricked.
Speaker 5 (01:26):
Yeah, I'm gonna. I'm gonna be honest. You know, most
of us are still trying to recover somewhat from the
last storm. You know. I'm just now starting to tear
down a shed that had destroyed last September, you know,
because I've been cutting down trees and doing all kinds
of stuff around and just got behind and and here
we're looking at another one again.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Yeah. These people that you know, they even got their
d O. Betsy just got me finally, after twenty nine
thousand tries. He got me.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
There. Everybody shut their phones off.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
That yeah, gonna shut them on.
Speaker 5 (02:01):
When I saw Dale, I turned mine off.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
I should have known, but it is iPhones. I ain't
used to it. My mother phone out just hit a
button and it goes out. But uh, well this has
got to cut off. Switch to it's still going off.
Lord help me. Anyways, Yeah, man, it's just if it
keeps the speed up.
Speaker 6 (02:18):
Now.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
You know they're saying that it's not going to be
you know, just be like a lot of severe storms
and a lot of rain. I seen while to go.
Where's talking about forty plus inches?
Speaker 4 (02:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (02:27):
So and that's if it stalls on top of us.
You know, we hope that thing gets on out of here.
You know, we don't need that much rain at one time.
Speaker 7 (02:34):
That would now do you had that much rain coming
down those rivers going out in the bay, what would
that do? Your grass out gone with it?
Speaker 2 (02:41):
There'll be a lot of stuff washed away, including houses
and everything else.
Speaker 5 (02:46):
Yeah, that's the thing.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
You know.
Speaker 5 (02:47):
Last year I was we you and I both Joel
were involved with that storm clean up. And you know,
I don't think you made it down to Horseshoe Beach,
Sherry or Swanny. But let me tell you a Horseshoe
Beach there was whole houses in the canals Swannee. Swannee
was pretty much unrecognizable. Sand bars removed a lot of stuff,
a lot of marsh grass just pushed up on those
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islands and it was it was devastating down there. And
you know, luckily the Keaton Beach area, even steam Hatchie
wasn't anywhere near as bad is Swanny and see Horseshoe
Beach and parts of the Cedar Key because the eye
went over Keaton, you know, that's what saved it. But
you know, Perry was devastated, but that Horseshoe Beach area
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was unreal.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Yeah, that the you know, the east side to spin
off is the worst side there is, you know, and
that's where the I went into Perry. And then you know,
of course Cedar Ken all that that's where all the
sur the main surge was coming because it was steadily
hitting land there. You know, they spinning off that east side Perry.
You know, Perry got you know, wrecked, but it wasn't honestly,
it wasn't the hurricane had done it. It was all the
tornadoes had spun off of it. I mean, because it
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broke down. That's the only thing that saved the beaches.
You know, Keton Beach and stuff would have been leveled
if that thing went and broke down at a white
keating and you know, all our little beach of houses out,
but you know, luckily it broke down and then come
back together on top of Perry.
Speaker 5 (04:07):
Well, it's like we were just talking about our hunting clubs.
You know, we've had a time filling our hunting club
this year, and it's because ours was hit so hard,
you know, and the trees are just ruined. Well, right
after the hurricane came through, we had more storms follow
behind it with just a bunch of tornadoes, and arch
club just got devastated.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
You know.
Speaker 5 (04:28):
It's just I don't even know how much money and
trees has gone. The land just destroyed. It's and and
now we're looking at another one. You know. To look
at it on the positive side is you know a
lot of that the weak trees and stuff was now gone,
you know, so maybe maybe it won't impact us hard.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Well, they won't be another tree left if it hits
like it did last time, right, I mean, we won't
had no room for no trees. You know. That's the
good thing about us down are on the coastline of Oscilla.
You got all that hard in between us, you know,
in the coast, so that helps keep the wind off
us a lot. You know on our coastline, you know,
pounds on people who's got the houses and ain't nothing
there to protect them. And believe it or not, them
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big old live oaks and stuff, and even the water
oaks they've down in them rockbed they helped keep the
wind off, you know, our coastline. So that's what helped
us through the years with the hurricanes not tearing as
much stuff up as it would you know versus Keating
or steen Hatcher or wherever. But let's hope it goes
on west. And I mean I hope. I don't pray
for it to hitting nobody about anybody but us. Honestly
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at this point, that's the way I feel, because we
don't need another one. They still houses and ain't got
roofs you know, completed, and you know, and insurance companies
wanting to battle and stuff like that.
Speaker 7 (05:40):
So you get more rain coming, they can just mess
things up here.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Yeah, And a lot of people lost their you know,
their insurance, you know, after that last storm, so had
a lot of people that ain't got insurance and got
new stuff, but can't get insurance on it. So it's
just hopefully it'll keep continuing moving west and or either
just go fast enough. It ain't nothing but a thunderstorm out.
I can hand a little bit of rain. It's not
forty inches. How's how's the water and everything, the tempt
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and stuff there on, like seminoles at.
Speaker 7 (06:07):
Water temperature has been eighty six starting out in the
morning is eighty six and a half going all the
way up to like ninety ninety one ninety two. But
it's been hot. But I tell you, the dack brim
have been bedding like crazy.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Ain't no moon right now.
Speaker 7 (06:22):
I'm not this weak, and you know, and the shell
crackers still bedding brim or bedding and then been big
bass or eating right now.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Yeah, I think of new moon until Sunday.
Speaker 7 (06:33):
Yeah, we're in between the moon.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
I don't you know.
Speaker 7 (06:35):
I know the moon effects fish, and it does, it does.
But that old mentor mine said that moon ain't got
nothing to do it son, he believes it, and I'm
starting to believe if he ain't right. I mean, I'm
talking about thirty forty found thirty forty different rim buds
in between the moons.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
I know, I know it works for the feed times
on a deer, yeah for sure, moon underfoot, yeah yeah,
But for the most part.
Speaker 7 (07:00):
But you know, you would think being a fly, I
can understand a full moon or a new moon. But man,
there's a bunch of brim bedding right now.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
It's it's weird.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
You know.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
The sheep said fish got their own business and they
they got different schools of course, you know, and that's right.
A lot of them go off on this, you know,
that full moon, and then you'll still have some staying behind.
Like this past year, kept saying the sheep had is
gonna leave any day now, any day, Well, a full
moon come along, you know, about one or two days
it was a it was a slow up, and then
after that it was like you went back to catching
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them like there was another group there. And that's you know,
that's how it works. And it's just like brim too.
I'm sure they the same way. You know, they got
several different ones that's gonna lay on this time.
Speaker 7 (07:38):
Or that's right, and you'll have brim they'll bet all
from from about May all the way into September, all
through the summer typically on every moon.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
New man, you know for sure, Tanner, what you got
to say, I know you want to say something.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
We're gonna get into some flounder gig in tonight.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Oh boy, who's gonna flounder gig?
Speaker 3 (07:57):
And several other folks we got going out, got the
lights rigged up on the boat this morning. Joe helped
me do that.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
I ain't going with him, he acted like he was.
Speaker 5 (08:07):
But do you do that too, Kenny, Yes, I do.
Speaker 7 (08:14):
Y'all guide folks for doing that.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Yes, oh yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
Cool.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Now water is just now clear. I mean it's crystal clear.
It's pretty as it can get between the osil and
even saint marks. And I'm sure that we didn't go
east the other day, but it's it's there. It's ready
to go. It's ready for gigging for real. Now we
got all this rain coming, say, it's gonna get started
right back.
Speaker 5 (08:32):
And now you just need the flounder in close enough.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Yeah, no kidding, no kidding. These people have been getting
a notecause I've been seeing it. To words of Saint
marks on the pages and stuff. They're starting to gig
a lot of flounder that way.
Speaker 5 (08:43):
Yeah, and the key too. And I'm sure you know this, Tanner,
But for the people listening going out gigging, you have
to have the wind right, even with underwater lights I
run underwater lights. You still have to have the right wind.
And also the color of the light makes a big difference,
especially in some are more tanning areas of a more
amber colored light works better. But another thing is you
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have to have the right tide.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Yeah, those school spotlights, the best meds are bright, but
you get one of the old school spotlights and that
you can see better. You can see better thing versus
anything else.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
Now, Paul just asked, what's the right tide? So I
like to go kind of like them on red fishing,
just before the tide gets slacked and fish or gig
through that tide. Really, I like an incoming tide when
I'm gigging, because those flounder will stage in the shallow
waiting for that that bait and tide to be pushed in.
(09:40):
That's that's my preference. What about you, Tanner?
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Pretty much the same thing. When it's rising oar falling.
Speaker 5 (09:46):
Really right right? I just I prefer a rising if
I can get it, because that water is starting to
come in and that's where those those flounder as staged up.
But even on the even on the outgoing you hit
that tail into the out going, they're still going to be.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
You talk about that wind. That wind don't matter that
that wind matters, and that lot, it don't matter what
color light you got, you gonna have the best one
in the world. If that wind's blowing, that water's in
between you and that lot. You can't see where it's
under the water. Yeah, I don't even like it. I
don't even like a slot breeze. I like it still
and slick out there to be gigging, and the flower
is already hard than see anyway, you know what I mean.
(10:20):
I can't hardly see them. I'm blind. You see the
outline of them, outline in their eyes.
Speaker 7 (10:25):
So what what kind of gig do you use?
Speaker 2 (10:26):
There?
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Certain you prefers or uh three frong gigs depending on
how wide.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
I like using dynamite. Hey, you know you're talking about
your club while Kenny, uh, y'all still accepting members?
Speaker 5 (10:43):
We are we we have. I believe it's six openings left.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Six openings. Is there anything against the spotlight and the silencer?
Speaker 5 (10:53):
Now, you can use a spotlight in the silence or
for wild hogs. If you use it for anything else,
that's between you and the f O.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
You see, I didn't say what it's for it could
have been a hog or coon. Coon. Yeah, you know
there's there's some big coons out there that's you know,
got horns on their head. No, I ain't doing that, y'all.
Don't come looking for me. You don't come looking for me.
I don't need to. I don't need to help with that.
Speaker 5 (11:21):
I don't think you want to use nets there. You
might get tangled up a little bit.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Oh yeah, in that bay. It's pretty bad in that bay.
You got to be tough to hunt there. But all
the mosquitoes and and everything else. Ye has nothing but
a big swamp.
Speaker 5 (11:31):
Yeah, there's some good deer.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Oh, they've been some big bucks killed in the bay,
no doubt. What's the name of that hunt club in
case anybody's wanting to get in it?
Speaker 5 (11:38):
You caffin slews, caffiny slews. Y'all have almost twenty two thousand.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
That's a good bit. They didn't see how many members total.
Speaker 5 (11:47):
I believe it's right at one hundred and one.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
At one hundred and one. We've got to go to
a quick commercial break before Jared throws something at me,
and we'll be getting right back with y'all. Thank y'all. Alright, guys,
welcome back to the show. Captain Tanner wants to share
(12:11):
a line fishing story with Line.
Speaker 5 (12:15):
I mean, I've seen some pictures, Kenny.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
Preface this story right here and tell us why we've
shared the video this morning and what the conclusion you've
came to.
Speaker 5 (12:24):
So I will say this, every time that I've seen
Joel with a nice quality redfish, you seem to be there.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
Tanner, What can I say? Let me so, let me
go ahead and tell you all this story. So Sunday,
I decide I'm going to go out scouting, and Joel says,
do you mind if I tag along with you? I said, Joel,
that's no problem. You can tag along if you like.
So him and his son Cole come and he says,
let's go.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
Let's go.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
We we go Wes and we're going across there and
he's says, I got a good spot over there. So
we're going. I'm like, I recognize this area, you know.
We get over there and it's the spot I dumb
into many times and caught fish, you know, So no, lie,
We pull up, we anchor out and it's a deep
wash and a bend in the creek and it's crystal clear,
it's got some rocks down there. We see a gator
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going in there too, swimming on the bottom, and a
lot of bait and mulleting there. And you know, we
can't get shrimp or anything this time of year, so
we're fishing strictly artificial. And uh, first cast, literally all
three of us, first cast we throw out there, we
trout and it was every cast trout, trout, trout, trout,
and uh, we're sitting there and all of a sudden
we see a big red fish coming up the creek.
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You see him swim right in there and down in
the whole.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
One.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Probably two or three casts later, I'm telling Joel, you know,
there's that fish's mouth right there.
Speaker 5 (13:42):
Cast that mayor right.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
No, probably two or three casts after we saw the fish.
Joel did hang that red fish and he ended up
catching him.
Speaker 5 (13:50):
But well, you see, whenever you said see that fish
right there throwing in smile, I knew that was like
for one Joel's mind, and two he doesn't have enough
experience a good cast.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
He was probably a twenty five inch red fish. He
was a nice fish.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
But uh, that's cool. Y'all are so full of it.
You are really so I really found that spot. He
probably had a drone in there. That's the onest reason
he's fish that spot. He didn't know to find that
spot there. And one day I was in there fishing,
mind of mom, but so it wasn't nobody else around.
And I went to leave and I looked over the
sawgrass and there's Tanner. Now that was the truth. But no,
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I called him, told him to come over to Fish's butt.
But you know, it matters there if you go east
to west, like some days you can go west and
not catch a thing and go back east and you
wear them out and then it happens, you know both.
I mean either way, sometimes you catch them, you want
to catch the meat, and you go west and you
hammer down on him. And Kenny's ever shaking his head no,
like he knows what he's talking about, but he don't
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know what he's talking about. A myrie. He might know
about keating, but he don't know nothing about that area.
Speaker 5 (14:54):
I've been fishing over there all week, all week.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Yeah, but they ain't ain't talking about right now. I'm
talking about during the winter time.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Even then we're talking about right now, we're talking about Sunday.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Yeah, I mean this these bell dance is nothing around here?
Speaker 7 (15:07):
Let me, was them fish up in a creek? Yeah,
so they're up in a creek.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
Probably.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Trout, legal trout, And.
Speaker 5 (15:17):
So I've came to the theory that there's always fish
in there, you know, It's just we typically don't fish there,
you know, just like when I go out after a
black sea bass and I'm in twelve feet of water
and catch trout. Are those trout out that deep because
it's hot. No, They're probably always there, and I'm just
never there until it gets warm and the black sea
bass are on those rocks and twelve feet of water.
(15:39):
I think I believe the fish you're always there. It
just may not be in large quantities like you see
in the wintertime.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Well, I could tell you one thing. They are starving
because everyone of them was just pale, I mean, just
poor looking. The trout skinny, skinny, Yeah, everyone on. I
don't eat them, I throw them back.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (15:58):
So I'm just now start to see a decent amount
of bait, especially in kind of between pretty close to
where y'all are at a lot of glass menows. I'm
still not still haven't seen a lot of white bait
like we typically do. But a lot of glass minnows
some small valley who but it hasn't hasn't been here.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
There's a lot of you know, modemnows and stuff like
shiners and I can't remember what else. We're seeing some
kind of weird looking little bait the other day and
I couldn't describe what it was.
Speaker 5 (16:30):
Little green backs, but almost talking about like the razorbellies.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
But you know, they're just still. I mean, it wouldn't
even get to the bottom, and they was hitting it.
I mean, you couldn't even you know, work work, you go,
and it was just one after another and he's wanting
to take pictures and do this and do that. I
was like, dude, you got a fish right here, I said,
because they're gonna quit. And it was like a lot
of fifteen minutes later.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Boom and they jump out of the water.
Speaker 5 (16:53):
This razor bellies.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Yep, that's what there was. I see, that's you know,
that's almost the Saint Mark's where we was at, you know,
it was. He's probably within three miles from St. Mart's
right now. They catch it. They catching a lot, you
know that way, and everybody you know, anywhere from three
to the four or five foot of water, you know,
they catching them the trout.
Speaker 5 (17:15):
Yeah, so most of my trout, well, actually all of
my trout for the last well all summer has been
in I haven't been deeper than five feet. Most of
it's been in that three and a half to four
and a half feet range where a lot of people
are talking to, especially in the keating area down towards
Steen Hatchie is they're all going out in eight to
ten feet of water, and I've never left that three
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and a half to five foot mark.
Speaker 8 (17:39):
Well, that's what's being spread around. That's what people are saying.
The trout are in ten foot. What you got to
keep in mind is the people that you hang around.
If they say ten, you need to be in five.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
People, right, So you saying that your buddy's light to you.
But the ones that you do got they.
Speaker 5 (18:08):
Hey, you know, I will say this. You know, keep
in mind when you ask someone about the depth, the
depth is all relative to work, the location and the tide.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Absolutely it's And like I said, he went the next day,
let's get back to this fish. It was two days, No,
two days. It might have been the day after, but anyway, No,
it wasn't even close to that we went fishing that afternoon.
It was morning time when he went next day day.
Speaker 6 (18:35):
That's not but he come back.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
And caught one catfish.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
So what even in that spot that I caught the cat.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Well, I'm just saying, you know, when I go with him,
he catches a lot.
Speaker 5 (18:47):
You're saying. What I'm hearing is you learn something from
Joel that day.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
That's what I'm hearing.
Speaker 5 (18:52):
That's yeah, you learn how to catch a catfish.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
That's what I learned.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
It was a totally different tide too. When I went
back also.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
It ain't one and we catch a bunch.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Yeah, there was nothing in there.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
But no, I had to mess with him. I couldn't
believe he told me the truth. I had have lied. Man,
I caught about twenty twenty five. I threw him back.
I wouldn't have said one catfish, not to me anyway.
Speaker 5 (19:19):
I don't know if you saw my my Facebook post
the other day. I don't know if you ever had
this happen. But this time of year, I get a
lot of people that I'll call that really don't know fishing.
And yes, so this person calls me and they say, Hey,
what time do you think we need to go and
I asked them to date, and I said, well, I'd
recommend we leave the dock at nine o'clock and that
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way we're gonna we'll start out catching, We'll catch our
limited red fish, and then the title start picking up
and we go catch our trout. They turn around and
come back and says, well, I think we need to
go at six thirty because the fish won't bite that late,
so we need to go early. I said, well, I
advise against that because we're gonna be fishing a slack tide.
You know, there's not gonna be much water movement. Yeah,
(20:00):
but the outside temperature is more important this time of
the year. I said, what what date was that?
Speaker 4 (20:05):
Again?
Speaker 5 (20:05):
I don't need to check my calendar. You know, don't
guide the guide. You know I'm out there every day,
most of us. You know we're going. Our goal is
to put you in the best position to catch the
most fish. You know, we don't We're not taking out
there for you to burn up for no reason.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
I've told several of them on the phone. I've told
several of them on the phone before, Hey, don't come,
don't waste your money. I don't waste your time money.
I don't want because I don't I when I go
out there, I want to catch a bunch of fish.
If I don't catch for thirty or forty, I'm mad.
I want to know what's going on. And I tell them, look,
I want you to come back. What are you saying
(20:43):
that you still you think I'm telling a story on
that when you can ask all the people that go
with me, we catch a pile of fish every time?
Speaker 5 (20:49):
Well, you catching thirty or forty right now? Because it
ain't easy.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
It's hard.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
It wasn't hard the other day.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
Yeah, but that was the one that I've very slim.
That is that it happens that way.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
On your boat, maybe not mine.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
Lost that's because you don't go into summer if it's
too hard for you to go.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
He won't go.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
It's too hard.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
I go rain shine when it's hard or not.
Speaker 5 (21:12):
So let me ask you, what did you catch some
reds on the other day?
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (21:16):
You call that one on a piece of shrimp?
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Didn't you actually know the some of the bait that green.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
One I had It was a salt strong oder actually,
and then it was a soft plastic, yeah, soft plastic
and everything.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Pil it was.
Speaker 5 (21:28):
It was actually a silver slam shady.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
I don't think that wasn't.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
It looked like tinfoil so silver.
Speaker 5 (21:36):
A creek uh within eyesight of the lighthouse.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
No, you couldn't.
Speaker 8 (21:39):
See lighthouse eight miles away.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
There's only about fifty creeks in between the.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
Well.
Speaker 5 (21:50):
I saw them go into that creek.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
He was never that far. That's too many rocks passing around.
Speaker 5 (21:58):
You look at the them on my boat over there.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
You have more and scratches on the bottom of your boat.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
You go over there, You need to go over there
one time with me on I've been over there on
a negative tide, and you'd be like, I ain't never
run on my boat everything.
Speaker 5 (22:12):
I've been over there plenty of time.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
The rocks, it's crazy.
Speaker 5 (22:15):
Now we've been catching limits of redfish every trip, and
we've been using gold spoons, and but you can't use
just anyone. I'm just gonna go ahead and tell you
I've tried a bunch of them, trying to save money,
trying to be cheap. And I bought the three dollars
spoons at Walmart. I bought the Johnson spoons, I bought
the Aqua dreamspoons, and I tried them all and right now,
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for whatever reason, I will catch six to eight redfish
on an aquad dreamspoon over anything else.
Speaker 8 (22:45):
Question, yes, spoons, twisting your line, how do you I know,
putting a swivel leader in a swivel or a swivel
direct connect swivel? What swivel? What size swivel? What size spoon?
How do you keep that line with style?
Speaker 5 (23:00):
So honestly, I used to attach a small I can't
even remember the size. I think it's like a number
six swivel to the directly.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
To the spoon.
Speaker 5 (23:10):
I don't even do that anymore. I will on a Johnson,
but the Awkwood Dream for whatever reason, I'm not having
an issue with line twist, and I think it's just
because it wobbles more than it does spin. And I've
also found when I eliminated that swivel, I'm catching more fish,
so that it's something with the action. Now, I will
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say I do change my line, probably more frequently than most.
And one one tip that I give everyone online, so
whenever whenever, especially spinning reels, whenever you're spoiling that reel up,
you want the line to come off of the spool counterclockwise,
so typically your label on your spool. If you have
the label facing up, that line would be coming off
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clockwise on most brands, So you flip it over to
the labels down. The line's coming off counterclockwise. You reel
it up, and then you go out out and you
don't tie a nod or anything. Don't tie a lure on,
no leader. Let all the line out of the back
of the boat and idle for a little ways and
then reel it back up.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
We got we got to go to a quick commercial.
We'll be right back, guys. I hate to cut you off, fellas,
I'm just so, I'm so sorry I learned that I
had to cut Kenny off about how he was showing
a proper way of spilling a reel up. Continue your
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conversation what you had going on with Dale?
Speaker 5 (24:35):
Yeah, so, I mean pretty much. I just wanted to
share that. And you know, if you let all your
line out, like I was saying, out the back of
the boat, and you you idle for you know, just
a couple of minutes, it gets all the twist out.
And if you'll do that, you know, every couple of
weeks you pretty much keep that twist out and it'll
keep your wind knots down because that's the big thing
about Brady line. But I'm gonna tell you I would
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much rather do that than deal with monofilament anymore. I mean, yeah,
I've never used flora carbon actually on the spool I used.
I've used it for leader material, which we were talking
about on the break, you know, And I still use
flora carbon leader material at times. But if you take
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the same diameter flora carbon and monofilament, monofilament is more
brasion resistant and uh it's stronger.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Yeah, anything said of that do well.
Speaker 8 (25:31):
I mean, I think a lot of people like myself,
you know, won't use the spoon just because of the
line problems, you know. And I've go I'll go to
the little, tiny, real small eighty pounds swevel or whatever.
I don't know what number it is and all, but
I just went to that strength, that pound strength swelll
But man, that thing's tiny, and I just don't know
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if it's turning with the spoon, and when I look
down at my line, I see that it's not. And
I got tired of trying to even fish a spoon
at all because of the line twist. It was just
jacking up every rod and reel that I used, and
that's why I was curious of what you do and
how what spoons and I have. You know, I have
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smak with Dreams and I have some Johnson's, some different things.
I got more tackle than I should have, and in
fact it's pretty disgusting actually, but the learning how to
actually use it the right way, obviously it's going to
produce more yeah, drag pulling ashes.
Speaker 5 (26:34):
So yeah, And honestly, I use the three three eight
ounce aquad dream and I tie I do have. I
use braided line, and then I'll typically use a floor
carbon leader just because when I'm using the spoons, it
doesn't what about that memory twenty pound.
Speaker 8 (26:51):
Twenty Okay, I got seventeen, I'm using seventeen triple fish.
Speaker 5 (26:55):
Yeah, I'm using fifteen pound braid and twenty pound.
Speaker 7 (26:58):
Litera you can cast out.
Speaker 5 (27:00):
Oh yeah, and then I just straight retrieve it. Yeah,
just a steady retrieve. The biggest thing that I haven't
the biggest issue I have with clients is they want
to set that hook, you know, with a spoon. Just
keep reeling those redfish. They're going to set it themselves
kind of like circle, right. Just keep reeling because a
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lot of times are missing it. Yeah, they'll bump it.
You'll feel a bump. They're gonna come back and they're
going to get it.
Speaker 8 (27:26):
I'll use a ten pound braid, which is three pound diameter,
was seventeen pound. I use a monofilament triple fish leader
cameo yeh. And I can cast that. I can cast whatever,
spokeler or whatever. I can eat a sandwich by the
time it lands, So it's you know, it's always I mean,
it's been working for me for many years. But not
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with the spoons. And I must I'd love to fish
a spoon and all because there's plenty of places catch
plenty of red fish with spoons. But I've just had
a hard time with that. So no, no, And if
you could, you know, text me the number of swivel
sized swivel you're using.
Speaker 4 (28:08):
Maybe that's the difference. I don't know.
Speaker 5 (28:10):
Yeah, like I said, with the Aquad Dreams, I'm no
longer using a swivel, so you're not. No, not with
the Aquad Dreams.
Speaker 4 (28:15):
Line and line the lure. Yes, okay, you go, folks.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
And that's how I fish, honestly, even in the winter time.
I don't put no leader on or anything.
Speaker 5 (28:27):
Well, I do use a leader on the spoon, but
I'm not. I'm not putting swivels on there.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
I used to.
Speaker 5 (28:32):
I just I haven't lately because I'm catching more fish
without using it.
Speaker 8 (28:36):
There things that are going back the old school way, Paul.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
What you got going on? Man? Once you got in that.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
Today school when they bring their stuff to show.
Speaker 5 (28:49):
Me, let me hang on, hang on, I'm gonna get
a picture. I'm gonna put it up on the Facebook.
Speaker 7 (28:54):
Show up till man, I wrong a sample here to discuss.
Speaker 4 (28:57):
So let them frogs get loose in there? Now this out?
Speaker 5 (29:00):
Oh look at that?
Speaker 2 (29:01):
Say that? And is that the sickness?
Speaker 4 (29:04):
Those are handicapped from?
Speaker 7 (29:05):
These are these are? These are used in different situations
and that's what. And then you got your popping from
this man, this is becoming one of my favorite. This
is a sixth sense of vega frog. And if we'll
have some folks Texas on Facebook or six cents want
to send someone will have some of to give out
to people. So but anyway, this is this is a
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really see notice how this frog is a bit bigger,
so it walks really good. That spook type action, and
that's what you kind of want when you're throwing over
I like to throw a popping frog over kind of
isolated grass. You have clumps of hydrill or open holes
and pads, and you'll pull that thing off that pad
and get it walking. Man, they'll come up there and
jerk that thing. Does redfish ever hit on top of
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explode on top?
Speaker 1 (29:51):
Man?
Speaker 7 (29:52):
That's that's one of them. Is we're ten on the
soft you know underneath to you know what I mean,
and this time of year, and it works really good.
This bait right here. What thes you? You know, over time,
the legs, the rubber, they'll get nasty. So what you
can do you can just take those out. And I
like to throw this over matted vegetation like hydrilla, millfold
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thick pads and so you hear I've got beebies in it.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
You hear them, and then you got.
Speaker 7 (30:21):
The rattles and the jigs. So it it just I
think really allows for a little bit heavier weight. You
can cast it for other because I'm throwing these on
sixty five pound braid, direct braid and a heavy action rod.
So when one comes up and busts through that grass,
you've got to get him out, you know, on long cast.
But that's what's been working right now. Up on the lake.
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Our grass is really starting to grow now. From the
early this spring, all the high current we had it
kind of washed a lot of hygh drill away, but
it's really starting to come back. There's some key places
that this has really been very productive.
Speaker 8 (30:56):
Now, Paul, when you got here earlier, you come by
the when you got the station, you come by my
little office there and you were showing me these frogs
and everything. You said that they were getting a lot
of by its over some kind of special grass.
Speaker 7 (31:12):
Yes, it's called filamentous algae. Learn and what that is.
You can actually pull that up and see how you
spell that. I call it something else, but I'm not
filamentous filaminous algae. And what it does It floats on
the water, creates a lot of shade, and you can
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but it's gnarly. I mean, you try to if your
bait falls like this, and you'll pull back five pounds
of it, you know what I mean. So you when
you're when you're working that you can, I like these
kind of frogs over over that stuff.
Speaker 4 (31:48):
It was amazing, is that fish.
Speaker 7 (31:50):
Big fish and increase a lot of shade.
Speaker 8 (31:52):
A large mouth bass, which is what's hitting these is
coming up through that and actually eating that and not
getting a mouthful of grass when it gets it.
Speaker 7 (32:05):
Yeah, yeah, it's it's amazing how you can have a
you can have a mass come up under that grass.
And I've had them especially, and this is when I
throw these, is when I'm fishing around a lot of
pads with holes and if I'm throwing this bait up
on the pads and then these legs are sitting there
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on the back side of the pad like this. That's
why I use these longer ones. These are floating and
this starts to spread out. I've had big basket up
and just not even you. If you wouldn't watch it,
you wouldn't have known. It happened all of a sudden.
The poud just because backwards and it's gonna be an
eight or nine pounder, never make a big explosion. And
I like to throw that actually in pads and that
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that thing catches them very good. But that's what's been
working right now, you know. And but the key is
on the right kind of setup, you know, have you
I'm sure y'all found this. When you're fishing your rod,
you're lying the action of the rock. All that makes
a difference to put fish in the boat. I've had
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customers come and go, I like to bring my favorite
rideing okay, and they show what manto filament. Well, if
you get a bass forty feet away in grass, you're
gonna you're gonna set the hook and then rod's gonna go.
It's played like a rubber band. You ain't gonna most
likely you're not gonna catch him.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
You get wrapped up and everything there.
Speaker 7 (33:27):
That's right, and get wrapped up everything in there.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
And that's what I like about that braid. You set
the hook on him, you can go and bring it
to the top quick.
Speaker 7 (33:33):
That's right, that's right, that's exactly right.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
And you know most people you know I honestly, I've
I've used fifteen pound braid before, but I like using twenty.
Speaker 7 (33:44):
Me too, my go to braid when I'm throwing, like
a Sinko type back twenty pound braid because it's is
watch like an eight pound diameter. And I like to
use the you know, the original power pro just the
just the original. It's not slow. It seems like me
for casting I've liked that. What kind of braid do
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y'all like?
Speaker 5 (34:05):
So I was going to bring that up. I used
to like the original power Pro. I was the same
way until I tried Suffix Pro Mix and it's it's
like the original power Pro. It retains its colored a
little longer, and I have far less line twist.
Speaker 7 (34:19):
That's cool, and you're using that, And what poundtest are
using in the Suffix.
Speaker 5 (34:23):
Mainly fifteen this time of year. In the wintertime, I'll
step down to ten.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
Yeah, everybody's got their differences. And reason I use that
twenty and thirty sometimes is because all the rocks and stuff,
and I don't use a leader, you know, so I
want to great braid.
Speaker 4 (34:39):
You know.
Speaker 8 (34:39):
Those differences that we all have is the reason Johnny
Morris bought Cabello's with cash.
Speaker 5 (34:49):
So I'm not going to say the name of the company.
But I took the owner of a lure company, a
very well known lure company, who was I took him fishing.
It was the original owner and he made the comment,
I said, look, I don't have a lot of your
lures on the boat, right And now I do have
some because they do work great and they're very durable,
probably one of the most durable lure soft plastics out there.
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And he says, he says, look, I don't use them,
he said, he said, I prefer hard baits. He said,
I'm in the business catch fisherman, not fish now.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
But I know who it is. I already say it.
Speaker 8 (35:29):
Man, Well, you know what, there are people out there
that swear by soft plastics and hard baits and this
and that and everything else. I think in the in
the big picture of things, if them fish are hungry enough,
they'll hit just about anything.
Speaker 4 (35:42):
But you got to get out there and you got
to get it in front of them.
Speaker 5 (35:45):
I'm glad you said that because this year, typically this
time of the year, and Joel knows this, I'm using
live pinfish this year, I have not. I said, you
know what, i just don't want to deal with it.
I've already had traps being stolen. Just bought a bunch
of traps. I already had some stolen this time of year.
It always happens. And I said, you know what, I'm
just going to roll with artificial and it's going to
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be what's going to be, and you know what, I'm
catching just as many fish.
Speaker 8 (36:10):
Was that one of them traps we picked up that time.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Probably we got to go to a quick commercial break.
I thought we were there.
Speaker 6 (36:19):
We'll be right back, Welcome back to the show.
Speaker 4 (36:32):
Guys.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
Uh, you know, we ain't talked about it in a
you know, a couple of months. Is that time of
the year. How many food plots you got, ready, Kenny?
Speaker 5 (36:40):
I don't plant food plots anymore? What so about? I
guess it's been about ten years ago now. I was
at a little conference with some biologists and local biologists
and we got to talking about supplemental feed and food
plots and everything. And you know, one one of the
biologists says, you know, why are you wasting all this
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money on food plots? I said, what do you mean?
And so I still have the pictures. They put up
some slides about all the natural vegetation in art region
and the protein content of like green briers, muscadines, all
the natural food sources, honeysuckle, everything said what you should
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do is mow your natural vegetation and fertilize it. You know,
because we primarily hunt in planted pines, and the oil
or the oil the soil is terrible and no matter,
you can't put enough lime down in our soil to
get the pH right for a food plot. So you
have two options. You can plant the food plot and
waste your money, or you can use pelletized lime almost
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like a fertilizer. A time release pelotized lime and put
it down like a fertilizer. So it's going straight into
the roots of the of the plants. But when I
quit spending all that time, money, and effort into food
plots in our particular region, you know, some some parts
of the list area has better soil, But in our
particular reason, when I started mowing that natural vegetation fertilizing
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it and that new growth had come up, I've seen
far more deer eating it than I did my food plots.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
Cool, that's interesting, Pah, you got anything to odd of
deer hunting, you're gonna be deer hunting.
Speaker 7 (38:18):
I'm gonna be doing I'll do a little bit of it.
But man, that's a that's some good time to be fishing.
Speaker 4 (38:29):
We're going here, we're going there. I'm like, well, get gone.
Speaker 5 (38:31):
Hey, hey, hey, Paul, don't let that out too much.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
Now.
Speaker 5 (38:34):
We got to get people out there in the woods.
So we have this water do ourself.
Speaker 8 (38:39):
And I'm gonna tell you something. If you don't believe it,
go to the ramp. You'll see it.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
Oh yeah, yeah, but you ain't got it, you know,
them them Georgia people, you ain't got them food because
when it gets cold, super cold.
Speaker 5 (38:52):
And the thing is, they typically don't start hunting ntil
it gets cool.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
That's right.
Speaker 5 (38:58):
Yeah, so that that's that's another plus.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
Yeah, no doubt. But I mean they still a bunch
of them, that them older people, they don't care about
hunting no more. They can wanna catch a fish, you know,
and people never get tired of fishing. It seems like
you get tired of hunting. But I've not yet seen
anybody's why. I just I've caught all the fish I
want to catch.
Speaker 5 (39:16):
Well, I'm gonna tell you I'll killed a lot of
deer in my lifetime, and I do still enjoy it.
But I enjoy finding other people's deer for them that
they can't find. But the older I get, the more
I realized, why do I want to go out there
in the freezing cold, climb up a tree and sit
there miserable to kill a deer? I'd rather just go fishing.
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But like I said, I do enjoy going out there
and helping hunters recover their deer. So that's that's my thing,
you know. And I do like fishing, don't get me wrong,
but it's it's gonna be honest.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
Quick.
Speaker 5 (39:51):
What about five weeks season opens and this year Florida
and Georgia season opens the same day and the Gator
season will be.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
Opening to think, yes, that's coming up quick.
Speaker 8 (40:03):
I'll tell you something that if you've got a tree
stands out or you better check them if them storms
come through, oh yeah, because man, they'll be on the ground,
been up and they'll be going to recycling center.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (40:14):
I mean there's you know there was bost seasons starts
win second.
Speaker 5 (40:20):
Yeah, it's September, second weekend in September, I believe it is.
It's fourteenth, Yes, fourteenth, September fourteenth.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
I think I ain't gonna lie to you me not
hunting in Florida then where I hardly ever keep up
with it.
Speaker 5 (40:34):
So I'm gonna tell y'all something something new that I'm
getting into this year. I have purchased a thermal drone. Yeah,
so not only not only do I have tracking dogs,
I also have a thermal drone to help recover lost
year knife.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
Man.
Speaker 8 (40:52):
I'll tell you what. I love my drone. In fact,
I help some folks here recently find a find a dog. Yeah,
they had a missing German shepherd and it got onto
a about six hundred acre plantation and they said, we
got it on camera. We got it on camera, and
they put me in the area and I popped that
drone up there.
Speaker 4 (41:12):
Man, one fifteen minutes there he was.
Speaker 5 (41:14):
Isn't a great feeling when you help someone like that?
Speaker 8 (41:16):
It was, Man, I smiled all the way home. I
told my wife, I said, we found the dog because
the drum.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
That's awesome.
Speaker 4 (41:24):
I said, that was cool.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
Man.
Speaker 5 (41:25):
That's and that's what I love about tracking wounded deer
for people, is that it's it's very rewarding. Yeah, you know,
I don't even charge a fee. It's just that it's
rewarding to.
Speaker 8 (41:35):
Me, right, especially when the kids got a deer down
and that's his first deer or her first deer, and
and you're out there you want to find it.
Speaker 4 (41:44):
That's that's in a big way.
Speaker 7 (41:46):
How can we do that in the season?
Speaker 4 (41:48):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (41:49):
Every day?
Speaker 2 (41:50):
Really?
Speaker 5 (41:50):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (41:50):
Yeah? Yeah.
Speaker 5 (41:51):
Typically, typically I'll track and fifty deer year, just in
just in our area.
Speaker 2 (42:00):
But and that's just like me taking somebody. I'd rather
see somebody else shooting now than me because I don't
want to be having to clean it really too old
as now they can clean their own deer. But yeah,
I've let them walk by. I believe they or not
good bucks up north and just say I don't want
to shoot him right there. Don't have to drag him.
I don't have to do this. I just kept making
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up excuses, you know. But if my young's with me
or whoever, even if somebody that I don't know first
time hunting, I'd be more excited for them shooting that
deer than me.
Speaker 5 (42:31):
Well you know that that's something I tell a lot
of people and they don't understand it. Just like just
like guiding fishing. Do I love fishing, Yes, But my
passion is putting other people on fish, you know. And
the same thing with hunting and the same thing, and
I think it relates to the tracking deer. That's just
what I enjoy. I love seeing people making memories and
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helping people make memories, whether it's hunting, fishing, tracking a
deer or whatever. That's just that's what I love. And
I think I think most fishing guides are that way.
You have to be that way or you're not going
to be successful.
Speaker 2 (43:05):
I think, yeah, most of them. I've seen a lot
of a lot of them that ain't. You know, they're
all about making dollars.
Speaker 7 (43:11):
Your pictures is if you holding a fish and not
your customers, something ain't right.
Speaker 2 (43:15):
That's true. I mean, they ain't got very many customers.
Speaker 4 (43:21):
They're one.
Speaker 7 (43:23):
I'll tell you what. I've been so blessed this year.
I'm a I'm at my ninety ninth ninety nine people
case their personal best basket so far this year this weekend,
that's gonna be thee hundreds one.
Speaker 2 (43:34):
That's good.
Speaker 4 (43:35):
It is awesome. That's great.
Speaker 7 (43:37):
It's been fun.
Speaker 2 (43:38):
Yeah, Gator seasons coming up though. It's getting uh, everybody's
starting to get their stuff together. It's getting close.
Speaker 7 (43:43):
Guys, call me up there and y'all can come.
Speaker 5 (43:48):
I'm gonna be honest. I got out of that well.
So I had a scare a couple of years ago.
I had some I had some clients come with me
and they didn't disclose some some health issues, and I
thought I was going to have someone die on the boat.
And that was enough to scare me to say, you
know what, a gater is not worth this. And it
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wasn't by a gator bite or anything like that. The
person ended up having terminal cancer and didn't tell me.
So I'm glad that I was able to get him
on his his dream gaiter beforehand. But it was it
was scary, you know.
Speaker 3 (44:23):
And what was scary about it, I'm a little lost.
Speaker 5 (44:26):
So he couldn't handle the fight. He fell out, well,
not just that he and he wouldn't he wouldn't give up,
and and finally I just had to take the rod
away from him, and I thought we were going to
lose him, and I just said, you know, I don't
know if I want to keep doing this.
Speaker 8 (44:40):
Well, you did the right thing by taking the rod,
and sometimes you just got to help where help is
needed and everything. I tell you, what's really cool about
this show is that the gang's all back. Yeah, oh yeah,
it's good to see Tanner and Kenny and and Captain
Paul and yeah, people had to get hold.
Speaker 2 (44:59):
Of you an.
Speaker 5 (45:01):
You can find me on all social media platforms and
real Epic Charters reelipic charters dot com and you can
reach me at eight five o eight three eight six.
Speaker 7 (45:09):
One on one Paul and you you can find me
on Facebook Captain Paul tyre Fishing and you can reach
me at eight five zero two six four seven five
three four.
Speaker 3 (45:20):
My name's Standard and you can find me on Facebook
and Instagram at Swift Creek Outfitters. You can give me
a call at eight five zero eight four three two
two three five.
Speaker 2 (45:29):
He about set my number.
Speaker 4 (45:32):
My name is Dale and you can catch me INtime.
Speaker 2 (45:36):
My name's Captain Joel Baldry. I still Outlaw Charters, Facebook, Instagram,
you can get a yeah, everything pretty much. You can
find me my cell phone numbers eight five o six
seven two two one four three. If you want to
catch a bunch of catfish, you call Kenny and Tanner.
If you want to catch a bunch of fish, you
call me.
Speaker 4 (45:57):
I'm gonna try.
Speaker 8 (45:58):
I'm gonna throw this out there real quick for you guys,
because I know you know you're all chartered cabins trying
to folks. Really, if you want to give the ultimate
Christmas gift, get a trip, even if it's a half
day trip. Get a trip for the person in your
life that loves to fish, whether it's your son, your
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daughter or your cousin, your grandma, your grandpa, whoever it
might be. By my half day trip. Believe me, it's
the gift that keeps on given because pictures and memories
last forever.
Speaker 2 (46:29):
And another thing I was gonna mention that I forgot
to mention last week too. We got the kids tournament
coming up at the store August tenth. You know it's
gonna be kids fifteen and under only. There's gonna be
four categories. First place one hundred and fifty dollars cash,
second third get prize packages. It's gonna be the heaviest
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five fish bag of brim, heaviest five fish back of catfish,
heaviest legal redfish, and heaviest single specckle trap.
Speaker 8 (46:58):
I know somebody will be there, my neighbor's boy, my
neighbor named Tommy. I can't I won't tell them you
last name. But tommy's getting ready to retire out of
the military. He's served our country and he's getting ready
to retire. But you taught he got a son. This
boy is a fishing all that, and they're gonna be out.
In fact, when this show airs, they're gonna be on
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the water fish in a tournament on mcasookie and then
I'll let them know about your tournament. And I'm sure
they'll be there because I tell you what, this little
man right here he can fish.
Speaker 2 (47:33):
I mean, people's got to remember too. It ain't got
to be in a boat, you know, and the kids
must hook and bring the fish in and be it
the way in. By two. You know, there's gonna be
a lot of supplies gave away, backpacks and back to
school supplies. So if you ain't got nothing going on
that day, everybody needs to bring their kids.
Speaker 7 (47:51):
And and you said in brim so they are there
a place that the kids can fish?
Speaker 2 (47:55):
R off the bank down there? Oh? Everywhere? That's awesome places.
And no telling how many more us that you're gonna
have after this pass this coming up weekend with a
hurricane coming over, heavy water everywhere won't be Yeah, I'm
hoping not. I'm hoping it goes on west. But like
I said, you know, let's let's get the kids out
there and enjoy that day. And plus you know the
parents and stuff that's needing help with school supplies, there's
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gonna be a lot of that stuff gave away. So
y'all come out there and bringing kids out there and
enjoy a day of fishing and hope to see y
all at the weigh in and y'all have a good day.
We are officially out of time. Jared just got onto
him again. He through something that man dodged it. But
thank y'all for tuning in. Hope to see y'all next week.
Speaker 1 (48:31):
You've been listening to The Big Bend Outdoor Show with
Joel Baldrym. Join us every Saturday morning at eight am
on ninety six y five the Spear and on demand
with the free iHeartRadio app.
This is the Big Bend Outdoor Show with Joel Baldry.
Today's guest include Captain Tanner Swab, Captain Paul Tyer, Captain
Kenny Mullins had special guest Dale Bessie. Here's your host,
Joel Baldry.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Hi, guys, welcome to the Big Ben Outdoor Show. Finally,
after two years, in twenty nine days and six hours,
Tanner swabbed to finally catching all the catfish around the world,
he finally comes back. He made it back, Tanner. Uh,
since you're back, you get the honors and telling the
tides in the weather for this weekend.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Man, this weekend, the tide is low at nine o'clock
out of Saint Mark's and it's gonna be high again
at two thirty pm. It's gonna go from a one
point six to a three point seven. So you got
a good bit of war.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
But there ain't no possible chance of the hurricanes in
her go this weekend.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
Are they?
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (00:55):
There might be.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
We're not too sure. Where's gonna come in yet?
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Man, that things gotten scared angle lie latest model showing
it right up the alley again.
Speaker 5 (01:04):
Yeah yeah, boy, categories that's showing.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Get up to it. Too, but they were wrong last time.
Speaker 5 (01:09):
I know. That's the scary parts with the hot as
the golf is right now, I'm a little nervous myself.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
If it slows down like that other one. If it
would have slowed down last year, I tell you it
would have been bad. I than a five. It just
kept the speed up, thank goodness. And it broke down
when it hit land. That's all I was reading. Their
beaches didn't get ricked.
Speaker 5 (01:26):
Yeah, I'm gonna. I'm gonna be honest. You know, most
of us are still trying to recover somewhat from the
last storm. You know. I'm just now starting to tear
down a shed that had destroyed last September, you know,
because I've been cutting down trees and doing all kinds
of stuff around and just got behind and and here
we're looking at another one again.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Yeah. These people that you know, they even got their
d O. Betsy just got me finally, after twenty nine
thousand tries. He got me.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
There. Everybody shut their phones off.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
That yeah, gonna shut them on.
Speaker 5 (02:01):
When I saw Dale, I turned mine off.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
I should have known, but it is iPhones. I ain't
used to it. My mother phone out just hit a
button and it goes out. But uh, well this has
got to cut off. Switch to it's still going off.
Lord help me. Anyways, Yeah, man, it's just if it
keeps the speed up.
Speaker 6 (02:18):
Now.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
You know they're saying that it's not going to be
you know, just be like a lot of severe storms
and a lot of rain. I seen while to go.
Where's talking about forty plus inches?
Speaker 4 (02:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (02:27):
So and that's if it stalls on top of us.
You know, we hope that thing gets on out of here.
You know, we don't need that much rain at one time.
Speaker 7 (02:34):
That would now do you had that much rain coming
down those rivers going out in the bay, what would
that do? Your grass out gone with it?
Speaker 2 (02:41):
There'll be a lot of stuff washed away, including houses
and everything else.
Speaker 5 (02:46):
Yeah, that's the thing.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
You know.
Speaker 5 (02:47):
Last year I was we you and I both Joel
were involved with that storm clean up. And you know,
I don't think you made it down to Horseshoe Beach,
Sherry or Swanny. But let me tell you a Horseshoe
Beach there was whole houses in the canals Swannee. Swannee
was pretty much unrecognizable. Sand bars removed a lot of stuff,
a lot of marsh grass just pushed up on those
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islands and it was it was devastating down there. And
you know, luckily the Keaton Beach area, even steam Hatchie
wasn't anywhere near as bad is Swanny and see Horseshoe
Beach and parts of the Cedar Key because the eye
went over Keaton, you know, that's what saved it. But
you know, Perry was devastated, but that Horseshoe Beach area
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was unreal.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Yeah, that the you know, the east side to spin
off is the worst side there is, you know, and
that's where the I went into Perry. And then you know,
of course Cedar Ken all that that's where all the
sur the main surge was coming because it was steadily
hitting land there. You know, they spinning off that east side Perry.
You know, Perry got you know, wrecked, but it wasn't honestly,
it wasn't the hurricane had done it. It was all the
tornadoes had spun off of it. I mean, because it
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broke down. That's the only thing that saved the beaches.
You know, Keton Beach and stuff would have been leveled
if that thing went and broke down at a white
keating and you know, all our little beach of houses out,
but you know, luckily it broke down and then come
back together on top of Perry.
Speaker 5 (04:07):
Well, it's like we were just talking about our hunting clubs.
You know, we've had a time filling our hunting club
this year, and it's because ours was hit so hard,
you know, and the trees are just ruined. Well, right
after the hurricane came through, we had more storms follow
behind it with just a bunch of tornadoes, and arch
club just got devastated.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
You know.
Speaker 5 (04:28):
It's just I don't even know how much money and
trees has gone. The land just destroyed. It's and and
now we're looking at another one. You know. To look
at it on the positive side is you know a
lot of that the weak trees and stuff was now gone,
you know, so maybe maybe it won't impact us hard.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Well, they won't be another tree left if it hits
like it did last time, right, I mean, we won't
had no room for no trees. You know. That's the
good thing about us down are on the coastline of Oscilla.
You got all that hard in between us, you know,
in the coast, so that helps keep the wind off
us a lot. You know on our coastline, you know,
pounds on people who's got the houses and ain't nothing
there to protect them. And believe it or not, them
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big old live oaks and stuff, and even the water
oaks they've down in them rockbed they helped keep the
wind off, you know, our coastline. So that's what helped
us through the years with the hurricanes not tearing as
much stuff up as it would you know versus Keating
or steen Hatcher or wherever. But let's hope it goes
on west. And I mean I hope. I don't pray
for it to hitting nobody about anybody but us. Honestly
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at this point, that's the way I feel, because we
don't need another one. They still houses and ain't got
roofs you know, completed, and you know, and insurance companies
wanting to battle and stuff like that.
Speaker 7 (05:40):
So you get more rain coming, they can just mess
things up here.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Yeah, And a lot of people lost their you know,
their insurance, you know, after that last storm, so had
a lot of people that ain't got insurance and got
new stuff, but can't get insurance on it. So it's
just hopefully it'll keep continuing moving west and or either
just go fast enough. It ain't nothing but a thunderstorm out.
I can hand a little bit of rain. It's not
forty inches. How's how's the water and everything, the tempt
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and stuff there on, like seminoles at.
Speaker 7 (06:07):
Water temperature has been eighty six starting out in the
morning is eighty six and a half going all the
way up to like ninety ninety one ninety two. But
it's been hot. But I tell you, the dack brim
have been bedding like crazy.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Ain't no moon right now.
Speaker 7 (06:22):
I'm not this weak, and you know, and the shell
crackers still bedding brim or bedding and then been big
bass or eating right now.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Yeah, I think of new moon until Sunday.
Speaker 7 (06:33):
Yeah, we're in between the moon.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
I don't you know.
Speaker 7 (06:35):
I know the moon effects fish, and it does, it does.
But that old mentor mine said that moon ain't got
nothing to do it son, he believes it, and I'm
starting to believe if he ain't right. I mean, I'm
talking about thirty forty found thirty forty different rim buds
in between the moons.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
I know, I know it works for the feed times
on a deer, yeah for sure, moon underfoot, yeah yeah,
But for the most part.
Speaker 7 (07:00):
But you know, you would think being a fly, I
can understand a full moon or a new moon. But man,
there's a bunch of brim bedding right now.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
It's it's weird.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
You know.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
The sheep said fish got their own business and they
they got different schools of course, you know, and that's right.
A lot of them go off on this, you know,
that full moon, and then you'll still have some staying behind.
Like this past year, kept saying the sheep had is
gonna leave any day now, any day, Well, a full
moon come along, you know, about one or two days
it was a it was a slow up, and then
after that it was like you went back to catching
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them like there was another group there. And that's you know,
that's how it works. And it's just like brim too.
I'm sure they the same way. You know, they got
several different ones that's gonna lay on this time.
Speaker 7 (07:38):
Or that's right, and you'll have brim they'll bet all
from from about May all the way into September, all
through the summer typically on every moon.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
New man, you know for sure, Tanner, what you got
to say, I know you want to say something.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
We're gonna get into some flounder gig in tonight.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Oh boy, who's gonna flounder gig?
Speaker 3 (07:57):
And several other folks we got going out, got the
lights rigged up on the boat this morning. Joe helped
me do that.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
I ain't going with him, he acted like he was.
Speaker 5 (08:07):
But do you do that too, Kenny, Yes, I do.
Speaker 7 (08:14):
Y'all guide folks for doing that.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Yes, oh yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
Cool.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Now water is just now clear. I mean it's crystal clear.
It's pretty as it can get between the osil and
even saint marks. And I'm sure that we didn't go
east the other day, but it's it's there. It's ready
to go. It's ready for gigging for real. Now we
got all this rain coming, say, it's gonna get started
right back.
Speaker 5 (08:32):
And now you just need the flounder in close enough.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Yeah, no kidding, no kidding. These people have been getting
a notecause I've been seeing it. To words of Saint
marks on the pages and stuff. They're starting to gig
a lot of flounder that way.
Speaker 5 (08:43):
Yeah, and the key too. And I'm sure you know this, Tanner,
But for the people listening going out gigging, you have
to have the wind right, even with underwater lights I
run underwater lights. You still have to have the right wind.
And also the color of the light makes a big difference,
especially in some are more tanning areas of a more
amber colored light works better. But another thing is you
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have to have the right tide.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Yeah, those school spotlights, the best meds are bright, but
you get one of the old school spotlights and that
you can see better. You can see better thing versus
anything else.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
Now, Paul just asked, what's the right tide? So I
like to go kind of like them on red fishing,
just before the tide gets slacked and fish or gig
through that tide. Really, I like an incoming tide when
I'm gigging, because those flounder will stage in the shallow
waiting for that that bait and tide to be pushed in.
(09:40):
That's that's my preference. What about you, Tanner?
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Pretty much the same thing. When it's rising oar falling.
Speaker 5 (09:46):
Really right right? I just I prefer a rising if
I can get it, because that water is starting to
come in and that's where those those flounder as staged up.
But even on the even on the outgoing you hit
that tail into the out going, they're still going to be.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
You talk about that wind. That wind don't matter that
that wind matters, and that lot, it don't matter what
color light you got, you gonna have the best one
in the world. If that wind's blowing, that water's in
between you and that lot. You can't see where it's
under the water. Yeah, I don't even like it. I
don't even like a slot breeze. I like it still
and slick out there to be gigging, and the flower
is already hard than see anyway, you know what I mean.
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I can't hardly see them. I'm blind. You see the
outline of them, outline in their eyes.
Speaker 7 (10:25):
So what what kind of gig do you use?
Speaker 2 (10:26):
There?
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Certain you prefers or uh three frong gigs depending on
how wide.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
I like using dynamite. Hey, you know you're talking about
your club while Kenny, uh, y'all still accepting members?
Speaker 5 (10:43):
We are we we have. I believe it's six openings left.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Six openings. Is there anything against the spotlight and the silencer?
Speaker 5 (10:53):
Now, you can use a spotlight in the silence or
for wild hogs. If you use it for anything else,
that's between you and the f O.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
You see, I didn't say what it's for it could
have been a hog or coon. Coon. Yeah, you know
there's there's some big coons out there that's you know,
got horns on their head. No, I ain't doing that, y'all.
Don't come looking for me. You don't come looking for me.
I don't need to. I don't need to help with that.
Speaker 5 (11:21):
I don't think you want to use nets there. You
might get tangled up a little bit.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Oh yeah, in that bay. It's pretty bad in that bay.
You got to be tough to hunt there. But all
the mosquitoes and and everything else. Ye has nothing but
a big swamp.
Speaker 5 (11:31):
Yeah, there's some good deer.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Oh, they've been some big bucks killed in the bay,
no doubt. What's the name of that hunt club in
case anybody's wanting to get in it?
Speaker 5 (11:38):
You caffin slews, caffiny slews. Y'all have almost twenty two thousand.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
That's a good bit. They didn't see how many members total.
Speaker 5 (11:47):
I believe it's right at one hundred and one.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
At one hundred and one. We've got to go to
a quick commercial break before Jared throws something at me,
and we'll be getting right back with y'all. Thank y'all. Alright, guys,
welcome back to the show. Captain Tanner wants to share
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a line fishing story with Line.
Speaker 5 (12:15):
I mean, I've seen some pictures, Kenny.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
Preface this story right here and tell us why we've
shared the video this morning and what the conclusion you've
came to.
Speaker 5 (12:24):
So I will say this, every time that I've seen
Joel with a nice quality redfish, you seem to be there.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
Tanner, What can I say? Let me so, let me
go ahead and tell you all this story. So Sunday,
I decide I'm going to go out scouting, and Joel says,
do you mind if I tag along with you? I said, Joel,
that's no problem. You can tag along if you like.
So him and his son Cole come and he says,
let's go.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
Let's go.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
We we go Wes and we're going across there and
he's says, I got a good spot over there. So
we're going. I'm like, I recognize this area, you know.
We get over there and it's the spot I dumb
into many times and caught fish, you know, So no, lie,
We pull up, we anchor out and it's a deep
wash and a bend in the creek and it's crystal clear,
it's got some rocks down there. We see a gator
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going in there too, swimming on the bottom, and a
lot of bait and mulleting there. And you know, we
can't get shrimp or anything this time of year, so
we're fishing strictly artificial. And uh, first cast, literally all
three of us, first cast we throw out there, we
trout and it was every cast trout, trout, trout, trout,
and uh, we're sitting there and all of a sudden
we see a big red fish coming up the creek.
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You see him swim right in there and down in
the whole.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
One.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Probably two or three casts later, I'm telling Joel, you know,
there's that fish's mouth right there.
Speaker 5 (13:42):
Cast that mayor right.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
No, probably two or three casts after we saw the fish.
Joel did hang that red fish and he ended up
catching him.
Speaker 5 (13:50):
But well, you see, whenever you said see that fish
right there throwing in smile, I knew that was like
for one Joel's mind, and two he doesn't have enough
experience a good cast.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
He was probably a twenty five inch red fish. He
was a nice fish.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
But uh, that's cool. Y'all are so full of it.
You are really so I really found that spot. He
probably had a drone in there. That's the onest reason
he's fish that spot. He didn't know to find that
spot there. And one day I was in there fishing,
mind of mom, but so it wasn't nobody else around.
And I went to leave and I looked over the
sawgrass and there's Tanner. Now that was the truth. But no,
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I called him, told him to come over to Fish's butt.
But you know, it matters there if you go east
to west, like some days you can go west and
not catch a thing and go back east and you
wear them out and then it happens, you know both.
I mean either way, sometimes you catch them, you want
to catch the meat, and you go west and you
hammer down on him. And Kenny's ever shaking his head no,
like he knows what he's talking about, but he don't
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know what he's talking about. A myrie. He might know
about keating, but he don't know nothing about that area.
Speaker 5 (14:54):
I've been fishing over there all week, all week.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Yeah, but they ain't ain't talking about right now. I'm
talking about during the winter time.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Even then we're talking about right now, we're talking about Sunday.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Yeah, I mean this these bell dance is nothing around here?
Speaker 7 (15:07):
Let me, was them fish up in a creek? Yeah,
so they're up in a creek.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
Probably.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Trout, legal trout, And.
Speaker 5 (15:17):
So I've came to the theory that there's always fish
in there, you know, It's just we typically don't fish there,
you know, just like when I go out after a
black sea bass and I'm in twelve feet of water
and catch trout. Are those trout out that deep because
it's hot. No, They're probably always there, and I'm just
never there until it gets warm and the black sea
bass are on those rocks and twelve feet of water.
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I think I believe the fish you're always there. It
just may not be in large quantities like you see
in the wintertime.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Well, I could tell you one thing. They are starving
because everyone of them was just pale, I mean, just
poor looking. The trout skinny, skinny, Yeah, everyone on. I
don't eat them, I throw them back.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (15:58):
So I'm just now start to see a decent amount
of bait, especially in kind of between pretty close to
where y'all are at a lot of glass menows. I'm
still not still haven't seen a lot of white bait
like we typically do. But a lot of glass minnows
some small valley who but it hasn't hasn't been here.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
There's a lot of you know, modemnows and stuff like
shiners and I can't remember what else. We're seeing some
kind of weird looking little bait the other day and
I couldn't describe what it was.
Speaker 5 (16:30):
Little green backs, but almost talking about like the razorbellies.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
But you know, they're just still. I mean, it wouldn't
even get to the bottom, and they was hitting it.
I mean, you couldn't even you know, work work, you go,
and it was just one after another and he's wanting
to take pictures and do this and do that. I
was like, dude, you got a fish right here, I said,
because they're gonna quit. And it was like a lot
of fifteen minutes later.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Boom and they jump out of the water.
Speaker 5 (16:53):
This razor bellies.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Yep, that's what there was. I see, that's you know,
that's almost the Saint Mark's where we was at, you know,
it was. He's probably within three miles from St. Mart's
right now. They catch it. They catching a lot, you
know that way, and everybody you know, anywhere from three
to the four or five foot of water, you know,
they catching them the trout.
Speaker 5 (17:15):
Yeah, so most of my trout, well, actually all of
my trout for the last well all summer has been
in I haven't been deeper than five feet. Most of
it's been in that three and a half to four
and a half feet range where a lot of people
are talking to, especially in the keating area down towards
Steen Hatchie is they're all going out in eight to
ten feet of water, and I've never left that three
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and a half to five foot mark.
Speaker 8 (17:39):
Well, that's what's being spread around. That's what people are saying.
The trout are in ten foot. What you got to
keep in mind is the people that you hang around.
If they say ten, you need to be in five.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
People, right, So you saying that your buddy's light to you.
But the ones that you do got they.
Speaker 5 (18:08):
Hey, you know, I will say this. You know, keep
in mind when you ask someone about the depth, the
depth is all relative to work, the location and the tide.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Absolutely it's And like I said, he went the next day,
let's get back to this fish. It was two days, No,
two days. It might have been the day after, but anyway, No,
it wasn't even close to that we went fishing that afternoon.
It was morning time when he went next day day.
Speaker 6 (18:35):
That's not but he come back.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
And caught one catfish.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
So what even in that spot that I caught the cat.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Well, I'm just saying, you know, when I go with him,
he catches a lot.
Speaker 5 (18:47):
You're saying. What I'm hearing is you learn something from
Joel that day.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
That's what I'm hearing.
Speaker 5 (18:52):
That's yeah, you learn how to catch a catfish.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
That's what I learned.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
It was a totally different tide too. When I went
back also.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
It ain't one and we catch a bunch.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Yeah, there was nothing in there.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
But no, I had to mess with him. I couldn't
believe he told me the truth. I had have lied. Man,
I caught about twenty twenty five. I threw him back.
I wouldn't have said one catfish, not to me anyway.
Speaker 5 (19:19):
I don't know if you saw my my Facebook post
the other day. I don't know if you ever had
this happen. But this time of year, I get a
lot of people that I'll call that really don't know fishing.
And yes, so this person calls me and they say, Hey,
what time do you think we need to go and
I asked them to date, and I said, well, I'd
recommend we leave the dock at nine o'clock and that
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way we're gonna we'll start out catching, We'll catch our
limited red fish, and then the title start picking up
and we go catch our trout. They turn around and
come back and says, well, I think we need to
go at six thirty because the fish won't bite that late,
so we need to go early. I said, well, I
advise against that because we're gonna be fishing a slack tide.
You know, there's not gonna be much water movement. Yeah,
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but the outside temperature is more important this time of
the year. I said, what what date was that?
Speaker 4 (20:05):
Again?
Speaker 5 (20:05):
I don't need to check my calendar. You know, don't
guide the guide. You know I'm out there every day,
most of us. You know we're going. Our goal is
to put you in the best position to catch the
most fish. You know, we don't We're not taking out
there for you to burn up for no reason.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
I've told several of them on the phone. I've told
several of them on the phone before, Hey, don't come,
don't waste your money. I don't waste your time money.
I don't want because I don't I when I go
out there, I want to catch a bunch of fish.
If I don't catch for thirty or forty, I'm mad.
I want to know what's going on. And I tell them, look,
I want you to come back. What are you saying
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that you still you think I'm telling a story on
that when you can ask all the people that go
with me, we catch a pile of fish every time?
Speaker 5 (20:49):
Well, you catching thirty or forty right now? Because it
ain't easy.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
It's hard.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
It wasn't hard the other day.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
Yeah, but that was the one that I've very slim.
That is that it happens that way.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
On your boat, maybe not mine.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
Lost that's because you don't go into summer if it's
too hard for you to go.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
He won't go.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
It's too hard.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
I go rain shine when it's hard or not.
Speaker 5 (21:12):
So let me ask you, what did you catch some
reds on the other day?
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (21:16):
You call that one on a piece of shrimp?
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Didn't you actually know the some of the bait that green.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
One I had It was a salt strong oder actually,
and then it was a soft plastic, yeah, soft plastic
and everything.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Pil it was.
Speaker 5 (21:28):
It was actually a silver slam shady.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
I don't think that wasn't.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
It looked like tinfoil so silver.
Speaker 5 (21:36):
A creek uh within eyesight of the lighthouse.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
No, you couldn't.
Speaker 8 (21:39):
See lighthouse eight miles away.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
There's only about fifty creeks in between the.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
Well.
Speaker 5 (21:50):
I saw them go into that creek.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
He was never that far. That's too many rocks passing around.
Speaker 5 (21:58):
You look at the them on my boat over there.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
You have more and scratches on the bottom of your boat.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
You go over there, You need to go over there
one time with me on I've been over there on
a negative tide, and you'd be like, I ain't never
run on my boat everything.
Speaker 5 (22:12):
I've been over there plenty of time.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
The rocks, it's crazy.
Speaker 5 (22:15):
Now we've been catching limits of redfish every trip, and
we've been using gold spoons, and but you can't use
just anyone. I'm just gonna go ahead and tell you
I've tried a bunch of them, trying to save money,
trying to be cheap. And I bought the three dollars
spoons at Walmart. I bought the Johnson spoons, I bought
the Aqua dreamspoons, and I tried them all and right now,
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for whatever reason, I will catch six to eight redfish
on an aquad dreamspoon over anything else.
Speaker 8 (22:45):
Question, yes, spoons, twisting your line, how do you I know,
putting a swivel leader in a swivel or a swivel
direct connect swivel? What swivel? What size swivel? What size spoon?
How do you keep that line with style?
Speaker 5 (23:00):
So honestly, I used to attach a small I can't
even remember the size. I think it's like a number
six swivel to the directly.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
To the spoon.
Speaker 5 (23:10):
I don't even do that anymore. I will on a Johnson,
but the Awkwood Dream for whatever reason, I'm not having
an issue with line twist, and I think it's just
because it wobbles more than it does spin. And I've
also found when I eliminated that swivel, I'm catching more fish,
so that it's something with the action. Now, I will
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say I do change my line, probably more frequently than most.
And one one tip that I give everyone online, so
whenever whenever, especially spinning reels, whenever you're spoiling that reel up,
you want the line to come off of the spool counterclockwise,
so typically your label on your spool. If you have
the label facing up, that line would be coming off
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clockwise on most brands, So you flip it over to
the labels down. The line's coming off counterclockwise. You reel
it up, and then you go out out and you
don't tie a nod or anything. Don't tie a lure on,
no leader. Let all the line out of the back
of the boat and idle for a little ways and
then reel it back up.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
We got we got to go to a quick commercial.
We'll be right back, guys. I hate to cut you off, fellas,
I'm just so, I'm so sorry I learned that I
had to cut Kenny off about how he was showing
a proper way of spilling a reel up. Continue your
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conversation what you had going on with Dale?
Speaker 5 (24:35):
Yeah, so, I mean pretty much. I just wanted to
share that. And you know, if you let all your
line out, like I was saying, out the back of
the boat, and you you idle for you know, just
a couple of minutes, it gets all the twist out.
And if you'll do that, you know, every couple of
weeks you pretty much keep that twist out and it'll
keep your wind knots down because that's the big thing
about Brady line. But I'm gonna tell you I would
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much rather do that than deal with monofilament anymore. I mean, yeah,
I've never used flora carbon actually on the spool I used.
I've used it for leader material, which we were talking
about on the break, you know, And I still use
flora carbon leader material at times. But if you take
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the same diameter flora carbon and monofilament, monofilament is more
brasion resistant and uh it's stronger.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Yeah, anything said of that do well.
Speaker 8 (25:31):
I mean, I think a lot of people like myself,
you know, won't use the spoon just because of the
line problems, you know. And I've go I'll go to
the little, tiny, real small eighty pounds swevel or whatever.
I don't know what number it is and all, but
I just went to that strength, that pound strength swelll
But man, that thing's tiny, and I just don't know
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if it's turning with the spoon, and when I look
down at my line, I see that it's not. And
I got tired of trying to even fish a spoon
at all because of the line twist. It was just
jacking up every rod and reel that I used, and
that's why I was curious of what you do and
how what spoons and I have. You know, I have
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smak with Dreams and I have some Johnson's, some different things.
I got more tackle than I should have, and in
fact it's pretty disgusting actually, but the learning how to
actually use it the right way, obviously it's going to
produce more yeah, drag pulling ashes.
Speaker 5 (26:34):
So yeah, And honestly, I use the three three eight
ounce aquad dream and I tie I do have. I
use braided line, and then I'll typically use a floor
carbon leader just because when I'm using the spoons, it
doesn't what about that memory twenty pound.
Speaker 8 (26:51):
Twenty Okay, I got seventeen, I'm using seventeen triple fish.
Speaker 5 (26:55):
Yeah, I'm using fifteen pound braid and twenty pound.
Speaker 7 (26:58):
Litera you can cast out.
Speaker 5 (27:00):
Oh yeah, and then I just straight retrieve it. Yeah,
just a steady retrieve. The biggest thing that I haven't
the biggest issue I have with clients is they want
to set that hook, you know, with a spoon. Just
keep reeling those redfish. They're going to set it themselves
kind of like circle, right. Just keep reeling because a
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lot of times are missing it. Yeah, they'll bump it.
You'll feel a bump. They're gonna come back and they're
going to get it.
Speaker 8 (27:26):
I'll use a ten pound braid, which is three pound diameter,
was seventeen pound. I use a monofilament triple fish leader
cameo yeh. And I can cast that. I can cast whatever,
spokeler or whatever. I can eat a sandwich by the
time it lands, So it's you know, it's always I mean,
it's been working for me for many years. But not
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with the spoons. And I must I'd love to fish
a spoon and all because there's plenty of places catch
plenty of red fish with spoons. But I've just had
a hard time with that. So no, no, And if
you could, you know, text me the number of swivel
sized swivel you're using.
Speaker 4 (28:08):
Maybe that's the difference. I don't know.
Speaker 5 (28:10):
Yeah, like I said, with the Aquad Dreams, I'm no
longer using a swivel, so you're not. No, not with
the Aquad Dreams.
Speaker 4 (28:15):
Line and line the lure. Yes, okay, you go, folks.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
And that's how I fish, honestly, even in the winter time.
I don't put no leader on or anything.
Speaker 5 (28:27):
Well, I do use a leader on the spoon, but
I'm not. I'm not putting swivels on there.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
I used to.
Speaker 5 (28:32):
I just I haven't lately because I'm catching more fish
without using it.
Speaker 8 (28:36):
There things that are going back the old school way, Paul.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
What you got going on? Man? Once you got in that.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
Today school when they bring their stuff to show.
Speaker 5 (28:49):
Me, let me hang on, hang on, I'm gonna get
a picture. I'm gonna put it up on the Facebook.
Speaker 7 (28:54):
Show up till man, I wrong a sample here to discuss.
Speaker 4 (28:57):
So let them frogs get loose in there? Now this out?
Speaker 5 (29:00):
Oh look at that?
Speaker 2 (29:01):
Say that? And is that the sickness?
Speaker 4 (29:04):
Those are handicapped from?
Speaker 7 (29:05):
These are these are? These are used in different situations
and that's what. And then you got your popping from
this man, this is becoming one of my favorite. This
is a sixth sense of vega frog. And if we'll
have some folks Texas on Facebook or six cents want
to send someone will have some of to give out
to people. So but anyway, this is this is a
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really see notice how this frog is a bit bigger,
so it walks really good. That spook type action, and
that's what you kind of want when you're throwing over
I like to throw a popping frog over kind of
isolated grass. You have clumps of hydrill or open holes
and pads, and you'll pull that thing off that pad
and get it walking. Man, they'll come up there and
jerk that thing. Does redfish ever hit on top of
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explode on top?
Speaker 1 (29:51):
Man?
Speaker 7 (29:52):
That's that's one of them. Is we're ten on the
soft you know underneath to you know what I mean,
and this time of year, and it works really good.
This bait right here. What thes you? You know, over time,
the legs, the rubber, they'll get nasty. So what you
can do you can just take those out. And I
like to throw this over matted vegetation like hydrilla, millfold
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thick pads and so you hear I've got beebies in it.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
You hear them, and then you got.
Speaker 7 (30:21):
The rattles and the jigs. So it it just I
think really allows for a little bit heavier weight. You
can cast it for other because I'm throwing these on
sixty five pound braid, direct braid and a heavy action rod.
So when one comes up and busts through that grass,
you've got to get him out, you know, on long cast.
But that's what's been working right now. Up on the lake.
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Our grass is really starting to grow now. From the
early this spring, all the high current we had it
kind of washed a lot of hygh drill away, but
it's really starting to come back. There's some key places
that this has really been very productive.
Speaker 8 (30:56):
Now, Paul, when you got here earlier, you come by
the when you got the station, you come by my
little office there and you were showing me these frogs
and everything. You said that they were getting a lot
of by its over some kind of special grass.
Speaker 7 (31:12):
Yes, it's called filamentous algae. Learn and what that is.
You can actually pull that up and see how you
spell that. I call it something else, but I'm not
filamentous filaminous algae. And what it does It floats on
the water, creates a lot of shade, and you can
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but it's gnarly. I mean, you try to if your
bait falls like this, and you'll pull back five pounds
of it, you know what I mean. So you when
you're when you're working that you can, I like these
kind of frogs over over that stuff.
Speaker 4 (31:48):
It was amazing, is that fish.
Speaker 7 (31:50):
Big fish and increase a lot of shade.
Speaker 8 (31:52):
A large mouth bass, which is what's hitting these is
coming up through that and actually eating that and not
getting a mouthful of grass when it gets it.
Speaker 7 (32:05):
Yeah, yeah, it's it's amazing how you can have a
you can have a mass come up under that grass.
And I've had them especially, and this is when I
throw these, is when I'm fishing around a lot of
pads with holes and if I'm throwing this bait up
on the pads and then these legs are sitting there
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on the back side of the pad like this. That's
why I use these longer ones. These are floating and
this starts to spread out. I've had big basket up
and just not even you. If you wouldn't watch it,
you wouldn't have known. It happened all of a sudden.
The poud just because backwards and it's gonna be an
eight or nine pounder, never make a big explosion. And
I like to throw that actually in pads and that
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that thing catches them very good. But that's what's been
working right now, you know. And but the key is
on the right kind of setup, you know, have you
I'm sure y'all found this. When you're fishing your rod,
you're lying the action of the rock. All that makes
a difference to put fish in the boat. I've had
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customers come and go, I like to bring my favorite
rideing okay, and they show what manto filament. Well, if
you get a bass forty feet away in grass, you're
gonna you're gonna set the hook and then rod's gonna go.
It's played like a rubber band. You ain't gonna most
likely you're not gonna catch him.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
You get wrapped up and everything there.
Speaker 7 (33:27):
That's right, and get wrapped up everything in there.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
And that's what I like about that braid. You set
the hook on him, you can go and bring it
to the top quick.
Speaker 7 (33:33):
That's right, that's right, that's exactly right.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
And you know most people you know I honestly, I've
I've used fifteen pound braid before, but I like using twenty.
Speaker 7 (33:44):
Me too, my go to braid when I'm throwing, like
a Sinko type back twenty pound braid because it's is
watch like an eight pound diameter. And I like to
use the you know, the original power pro just the
just the original. It's not slow. It seems like me
for casting I've liked that. What kind of braid do
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y'all like?
Speaker 5 (34:05):
So I was going to bring that up. I used
to like the original power Pro. I was the same
way until I tried Suffix Pro Mix and it's it's
like the original power Pro. It retains its colored a
little longer, and I have far less line twist.
Speaker 7 (34:19):
That's cool, and you're using that, And what poundtest are
using in the Suffix.
Speaker 5 (34:23):
Mainly fifteen this time of year. In the wintertime, I'll
step down to ten.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
Yeah, everybody's got their differences. And reason I use that
twenty and thirty sometimes is because all the rocks and stuff,
and I don't use a leader, you know, so I
want to great braid.
Speaker 4 (34:39):
You know.
Speaker 8 (34:39):
Those differences that we all have is the reason Johnny
Morris bought Cabello's with cash.
Speaker 5 (34:49):
So I'm not going to say the name of the company.
But I took the owner of a lure company, a
very well known lure company, who was I took him fishing.
It was the original owner and he made the comment,
I said, look, I don't have a lot of your
lures on the boat, right And now I do have
some because they do work great and they're very durable,
probably one of the most durable lure soft plastics out there.
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And he says, he says, look, I don't use them,
he said, he said, I prefer hard baits. He said,
I'm in the business catch fisherman, not fish now.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
But I know who it is. I already say it.
Speaker 8 (35:29):
Man, Well, you know what, there are people out there
that swear by soft plastics and hard baits and this
and that and everything else. I think in the in
the big picture of things, if them fish are hungry enough,
they'll hit just about anything.
Speaker 4 (35:42):
But you got to get out there and you got
to get it in front of them.
Speaker 5 (35:45):
I'm glad you said that because this year, typically this
time of the year, and Joel knows this, I'm using
live pinfish this year, I have not. I said, you
know what, i just don't want to deal with it.
I've already had traps being stolen. Just bought a bunch
of traps. I already had some stolen this time of year.
It always happens. And I said, you know what, I'm
just going to roll with artificial and it's going to
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be what's going to be, and you know what, I'm
catching just as many fish.
Speaker 8 (36:10):
Was that one of them traps we picked up that time.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Probably we got to go to a quick commercial break.
I thought we were there.
Speaker 6 (36:19):
We'll be right back, Welcome back to the show.
Speaker 4 (36:32):
Guys.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
Uh, you know, we ain't talked about it in a
you know, a couple of months. Is that time of
the year. How many food plots you got, ready, Kenny?
Speaker 5 (36:40):
I don't plant food plots anymore? What so about? I
guess it's been about ten years ago now. I was
at a little conference with some biologists and local biologists
and we got to talking about supplemental feed and food
plots and everything. And you know, one one of the
biologists says, you know, why are you wasting all this
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money on food plots? I said, what do you mean?
And so I still have the pictures. They put up
some slides about all the natural vegetation in art region
and the protein content of like green briers, muscadines, all
the natural food sources, honeysuckle, everything said what you should
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do is mow your natural vegetation and fertilize it. You know,
because we primarily hunt in planted pines, and the oil
or the oil the soil is terrible and no matter,
you can't put enough lime down in our soil to
get the pH right for a food plot. So you
have two options. You can plant the food plot and
waste your money, or you can use pelletized lime almost
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like a fertilizer. A time release pelotized lime and put
it down like a fertilizer. So it's going straight into
the roots of the of the plants. But when I
quit spending all that time, money, and effort into food
plots in our particular region, you know, some some parts
of the list area has better soil, But in our
particular reason, when I started mowing that natural vegetation fertilizing
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it and that new growth had come up, I've seen
far more deer eating it than I did my food plots.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
Cool, that's interesting, Pah, you got anything to odd of
deer hunting, you're gonna be deer hunting.
Speaker 7 (38:18):
I'm gonna be doing I'll do a little bit of it.
But man, that's a that's some good time to be fishing.
Speaker 4 (38:29):
We're going here, we're going there. I'm like, well, get gone.
Speaker 5 (38:31):
Hey, hey, hey, Paul, don't let that out too much.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
Now.
Speaker 5 (38:34):
We got to get people out there in the woods.
So we have this water do ourself.
Speaker 8 (38:39):
And I'm gonna tell you something. If you don't believe it,
go to the ramp. You'll see it.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
Oh yeah, yeah, but you ain't got it, you know,
them them Georgia people, you ain't got them food because
when it gets cold, super cold.
Speaker 5 (38:52):
And the thing is, they typically don't start hunting ntil
it gets cool.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
That's right.
Speaker 5 (38:58):
Yeah, so that that's that's another plus.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
Yeah, no doubt. But I mean they still a bunch
of them, that them older people, they don't care about
hunting no more. They can wanna catch a fish, you know,
and people never get tired of fishing. It seems like
you get tired of hunting. But I've not yet seen
anybody's why. I just I've caught all the fish I
want to catch.
Speaker 5 (39:16):
Well, I'm gonna tell you I'll killed a lot of
deer in my lifetime, and I do still enjoy it.
But I enjoy finding other people's deer for them that
they can't find. But the older I get, the more
I realized, why do I want to go out there
in the freezing cold, climb up a tree and sit
there miserable to kill a deer? I'd rather just go fishing.
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But like I said, I do enjoy going out there
and helping hunters recover their deer. So that's that's my thing,
you know. And I do like fishing, don't get me wrong,
but it's it's gonna be honest.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
Quick.
Speaker 5 (39:51):
What about five weeks season opens and this year Florida
and Georgia season opens the same day and the Gator
season will be.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
Opening to think, yes, that's coming up quick.
Speaker 8 (40:03):
I'll tell you something that if you've got a tree
stands out or you better check them if them storms
come through, oh yeah, because man, they'll be on the ground,
been up and they'll be going to recycling center.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (40:14):
I mean there's you know there was bost seasons starts
win second.
Speaker 5 (40:20):
Yeah, it's September, second weekend in September, I believe it is.
It's fourteenth, Yes, fourteenth, September fourteenth.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
I think I ain't gonna lie to you me not
hunting in Florida then where I hardly ever keep up
with it.
Speaker 5 (40:34):
So I'm gonna tell y'all something something new that I'm
getting into this year. I have purchased a thermal drone. Yeah,
so not only not only do I have tracking dogs,
I also have a thermal drone to help recover lost
year knife.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
Man.
Speaker 8 (40:52):
I'll tell you what. I love my drone. In fact,
I help some folks here recently find a find a dog. Yeah,
they had a missing German shepherd and it got onto
a about six hundred acre plantation and they said, we
got it on camera. We got it on camera, and
they put me in the area and I popped that
drone up there.
Speaker 4 (41:12):
Man, one fifteen minutes there he was.
Speaker 5 (41:14):
Isn't a great feeling when you help someone like that?
Speaker 8 (41:16):
It was, Man, I smiled all the way home. I
told my wife, I said, we found the dog because
the drum.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
That's awesome.
Speaker 4 (41:24):
I said, that was cool.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
Man.
Speaker 5 (41:25):
That's and that's what I love about tracking wounded deer
for people, is that it's it's very rewarding. Yeah, you know,
I don't even charge a fee. It's just that it's
rewarding to.
Speaker 8 (41:35):
Me, right, especially when the kids got a deer down
and that's his first deer or her first deer, and
and you're out there you want to find it.
Speaker 4 (41:44):
That's that's in a big way.
Speaker 7 (41:46):
How can we do that in the season?
Speaker 4 (41:48):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (41:49):
Every day?
Speaker 2 (41:50):
Really?
Speaker 5 (41:50):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (41:50):
Yeah? Yeah.
Speaker 5 (41:51):
Typically, typically I'll track and fifty deer year, just in
just in our area.
Speaker 2 (42:00):
But and that's just like me taking somebody. I'd rather
see somebody else shooting now than me because I don't
want to be having to clean it really too old
as now they can clean their own deer. But yeah,
I've let them walk by. I believe they or not
good bucks up north and just say I don't want
to shoot him right there. Don't have to drag him.
I don't have to do this. I just kept making
(42:20):
up excuses, you know. But if my young's with me
or whoever, even if somebody that I don't know first
time hunting, I'd be more excited for them shooting that
deer than me.
Speaker 5 (42:31):
Well you know that that's something I tell a lot
of people and they don't understand it. Just like just
like guiding fishing. Do I love fishing, Yes, But my
passion is putting other people on fish, you know. And
the same thing with hunting and the same thing, and
I think it relates to the tracking deer. That's just
what I enjoy. I love seeing people making memories and
(42:52):
helping people make memories, whether it's hunting, fishing, tracking a
deer or whatever. That's just that's what I love. And
I think I think most fishing guides are that way.
You have to be that way or you're not going
to be successful.
Speaker 2 (43:05):
I think, yeah, most of them. I've seen a lot
of a lot of them that ain't. You know, they're
all about making dollars.
Speaker 7 (43:11):
Your pictures is if you holding a fish and not
your customers, something ain't right.
Speaker 2 (43:15):
That's true. I mean, they ain't got very many customers.
Speaker 4 (43:21):
They're one.
Speaker 7 (43:23):
I'll tell you what. I've been so blessed this year.
I'm a I'm at my ninety ninth ninety nine people
case their personal best basket so far this year this weekend,
that's gonna be thee hundreds one.
Speaker 2 (43:34):
That's good.
Speaker 4 (43:35):
It is awesome. That's great.
Speaker 7 (43:37):
It's been fun.
Speaker 2 (43:38):
Yeah, Gator seasons coming up though. It's getting uh, everybody's
starting to get their stuff together. It's getting close.
Speaker 7 (43:43):
Guys, call me up there and y'all can come.
Speaker 5 (43:48):
I'm gonna be honest. I got out of that well.
So I had a scare a couple of years ago.
I had some I had some clients come with me
and they didn't disclose some some health issues, and I
thought I was going to have someone die on the boat.
And that was enough to scare me to say, you
know what, a gater is not worth this. And it
(44:10):
wasn't by a gator bite or anything like that. The
person ended up having terminal cancer and didn't tell me.
So I'm glad that I was able to get him
on his his dream gaiter beforehand. But it was it
was scary, you know.
Speaker 3 (44:23):
And what was scary about it, I'm a little lost.
Speaker 5 (44:26):
So he couldn't handle the fight. He fell out, well,
not just that he and he wouldn't he wouldn't give up,
and and finally I just had to take the rod
away from him, and I thought we were going to
lose him, and I just said, you know, I don't
know if I want to keep doing this.
Speaker 8 (44:40):
Well, you did the right thing by taking the rod,
and sometimes you just got to help where help is
needed and everything. I tell you, what's really cool about
this show is that the gang's all back. Yeah, oh yeah,
it's good to see Tanner and Kenny and and Captain
Paul and yeah, people had to get hold.
Speaker 2 (44:59):
Of you an.
Speaker 5 (45:01):
You can find me on all social media platforms and
real Epic Charters reelipic charters dot com and you can
reach me at eight five o eight three eight six.
Speaker 7 (45:09):
One on one Paul and you you can find me
on Facebook Captain Paul tyre Fishing and you can reach
me at eight five zero two six four seven five
three four.
Speaker 3 (45:20):
My name's Standard and you can find me on Facebook
and Instagram at Swift Creek Outfitters. You can give me
a call at eight five zero eight four three two
two three five.
Speaker 2 (45:29):
He about set my number.
Speaker 4 (45:32):
My name is Dale and you can catch me INtime.
Speaker 2 (45:36):
My name's Captain Joel Baldry. I still Outlaw Charters, Facebook, Instagram,
you can get a yeah, everything pretty much. You can
find me my cell phone numbers eight five o six
seven two two one four three. If you want to
catch a bunch of catfish, you call Kenny and Tanner.
If you want to catch a bunch of fish, you
call me.
Speaker 4 (45:57):
I'm gonna try.
Speaker 8 (45:58):
I'm gonna throw this out there real quick for you guys,
because I know you know you're all chartered cabins trying
to folks. Really, if you want to give the ultimate
Christmas gift, get a trip, even if it's a half
day trip. Get a trip for the person in your
life that loves to fish, whether it's your son, your
(46:18):
daughter or your cousin, your grandma, your grandpa, whoever it
might be. By my half day trip. Believe me, it's
the gift that keeps on given because pictures and memories
last forever.
Speaker 2 (46:29):
And another thing I was gonna mention that I forgot
to mention last week too. We got the kids tournament
coming up at the store August tenth. You know it's
gonna be kids fifteen and under only. There's gonna be
four categories. First place one hundred and fifty dollars cash,
second third get prize packages. It's gonna be the heaviest
(46:50):
five fish bag of brim, heaviest five fish back of catfish,
heaviest legal redfish, and heaviest single specckle trap.
Speaker 8 (46:58):
I know somebody will be there, my neighbor's boy, my
neighbor named Tommy. I can't I won't tell them you
last name. But tommy's getting ready to retire out of
the military. He's served our country and he's getting ready
to retire. But you taught he got a son. This
boy is a fishing all that, and they're gonna be out.
In fact, when this show airs, they're gonna be on
(47:20):
the water fish in a tournament on mcasookie and then
I'll let them know about your tournament. And I'm sure
they'll be there because I tell you what, this little
man right here he can fish.
Speaker 2 (47:33):
I mean, people's got to remember too. It ain't got
to be in a boat, you know, and the kids
must hook and bring the fish in and be it
the way in. By two. You know, there's gonna be
a lot of supplies gave away, backpacks and back to
school supplies. So if you ain't got nothing going on
that day, everybody needs to bring their kids.
Speaker 7 (47:51):
And and you said in brim so they are there
a place that the kids can fish?
Speaker 2 (47:55):
R off the bank down there? Oh? Everywhere? That's awesome places.
And no telling how many more us that you're gonna
have after this pass this coming up weekend with a
hurricane coming over, heavy water everywhere won't be Yeah, I'm
hoping not. I'm hoping it goes on west. But like
I said, you know, let's let's get the kids out
there and enjoy that day. And plus you know the
parents and stuff that's needing help with school supplies, there's
(48:15):
gonna be a lot of that stuff gave away. So
y'all come out there and bringing kids out there and
enjoy a day of fishing and hope to see y
all at the weigh in and y'all have a good day.
We are officially out of time. Jared just got onto
him again. He through something that man dodged it. But
thank y'all for tuning in. Hope to see y'all next week.
Speaker 1 (48:31):
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