August 10, 2024 • 47 mins
This is the Big Bend Outdoors Show with Joel Baldree
Original Airdate 08.10.24
Today's guests include: Captain Paul Tyre, Dale Bessey, and special guest host Captain Kenny Mullins.
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Original Airdate 08.10.24
Today's guests include: Captain Paul Tyre, Dale Bessey, and special guest host Captain Kenny Mullins.
Tune in to new episodes every Saturday at 8am on 96.5 The Spear in Tallahassee and on demand with the free iHeartRadio app
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is the Big Bend Outdoor Show with Joel Baldry.
Today's guest include Captain Paul Tyre and special guest Dale Bessie.
Here's your special guest host, Captain Kenny Mullins.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Good morning everyone, Welcome to the Big Bend Outdoors Show.
Today we have Captain Paul Tyre, we have Dale and myself,
Captain Kenny Mullins. Joel was not able to be here today.
He's dealing with some storm related stuff, but you know,
we keep him in our thoughts and prayers as he's
dealing with that stuff along with everyone else impacted by
(00:35):
the hurricane.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Man, you ain't kidding, boy, what a mess. Oh yeah,
I'll tell you. I live in Jefferson County and I
couldn't believe that. I read a report that we were
ninety nine point eight percent county wide without power, the
whole county and we were on the west side, literally
on the west side of that storm. You wouldn't have
thought that it would be like that, but end up
(00:57):
being that way. And you, sir, you were in the
middle of it.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Oh yeah, it got bad.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Well, tell us all about it.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
So we we stayed, We stayed and rode it. Out,
and I you know, I have a dog training business.
We had a bunch of dog client dogs, and so
I had to I had to stick with them. We
pulled all them out of the kennels and put them
in some dog trailers. I had put them up against
the house blocked the wind, and we didn't We cut
a lot of trees out of our yard, so we
didn't have any real danger there. But we decided to
(01:25):
ride it out. And every storm we've had, every hurricane,
there's been a tornado go down the same path behind
our house. Wow, and this one was no different. We
had the same thing. Tornado went right down that same
exact path. We ended up losing two sheds, a roof
off of one of the kennels. But other than that,
you know, just minimal stuff, you know, all that can
(01:47):
be replaced. But I tell you, I believe that it
was an underrated storm.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Yeah, I think you're rock Anny.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
I think, uh slow moving, too slow moving, and uh
you know, but I mean there were so many times
when I looked out in my back My backyard is
the pasture, you know, for my cows, and.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
I'm looking out there and the cows are out there
eating in the rain. I mean they're they're eating their feeding,
they're up and normally, if it's bad enough, they're bettered
down up in the woodlines somewhere you know, they go hide.
But they were out there and I didn't think much
of it, man. I mean a few serious gusts of
wind and stuff. But next thing you know, there went
the power and the generator kicked on. I'm very grateful.
(02:28):
I got a generak on the house and all, but
that generator. Boy, that thing didn't shut off till five
point fifteen. What was it So that five point fifteen
Wednesday night is when it finally shut off and we've
got power now. I'm gonna tell you something, straight up.
Hats offt to them linemen, Hats off to Hats off
to all the utility workers. I was going to say
(02:49):
the Duke boys, but there's Tri County, there's Duke, there's Talkling.
All these guys are out there in this mess, away
from their families, taking care of us, and I just
want to say thank you from the bottom of my heart,
and everybody else is we are very grateful that you're
doing what you do and doing it during the time
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that most people wouldn't even think about being out there
doing any kind of work.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
That's yeah. So on my way here this morning, Uh,
there was some linemen. I looked over and they were
literally chin deep in the water stretching lines.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Isn't that's something man? Yeah, that's in Florida. That reminds
me of back in the day when I did a
lot of coon hunting. I showed dogs. I actually had
two night Champions and a Grand Night Champion hound and
we would get out in the swamps at night and
we'd be just deep. But I'm gonna tell you something.
You swing that light around you seeing nothing but gator
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eyes and everything else. These guys are out there doing it.
They ain't got they don't have no guns on them. No,
you know they're not. They're not armed and ready. They're
just out there doing it because that's their job and
their their jobs to get the power restored. And again,
God bless them all.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Yeah, and astly I was without. I was very fortunate.
I did have three generators. I am I am going
to get a generat. I'm not dealing with this. I
can say enough good about it. It's uh, you know,
there's a lot of companies that sell them and everything
but we can talk after the show. There's one company
that takes care of all my service online, and I
recommend that company because there's a lot of companies that
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sell them, but they don't install them right, and then
you got to call a company to service it. And
the best thing you can do is buy it from
a company that's called service it and install it, because
then you got one stop shop right there and everything.
And I highly recommend it that way. But my guys,
they come out and they service it, you know, once
(04:44):
a year. And man, that thing when when it kicks
on and your house kicks up, it ain't no better
feeling than that air conditioning. No, Because I'll tell you
I pulled all three of my generators out the day
before the storm hit. All of them were purring like
a kid, yeah, man, and storm came lost power. One
out of the three was running there you go. Yeah,
So I was out there in the rain working on
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these things in there.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Man, been there. That's reason we ended up getting ours.
It's probably been ten twelve years ago. I had a
little four thousand kilowatt generator and it ran the refrigerator,
ceiling fans in the TV and we live in the country.
We have a well. It didn't run the well, it
didn't have no well, no water. Right, my wife was
smart enough to have the tubs full of water and
(05:28):
everything to operate the bathrooms. But in general, man, those generators,
those generas, they are worth every penny, every penny.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Yeah. Now, we were fortunate we received our power back
the same day.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Nice.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
I think we were out of power for that. That's probably.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Son of a gun.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Yeah, so I think our power was out thirteen hours.
And the winds they kicked up, they had to have
been around ninety mile an hour. I got a video
of it when I went outside. It was just it
was crazy. And Try County was out there ninety miles
an hour winds riding looking at the power lines, assessing everything. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Man, that when we're tucked away, I mean we're tucked
away in our little our little cabins and everything. Man,
these guys are out there. They're they're not chasing the storm.
They're in the storm. That's right, and everything, and it uh,
you can't say enough good about them. I'm it's just uh,
you know, the National Guard's been in Jefferson County helping
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those in need with tarps and water and mrs and
they're probably going to still be there. So if you're
listening to the show and you need some help, you
can go to the volunteer fire Department right there in
Lloyd on Lloyd Old Lloyd Road and they they should
have plenty of supplies left. And there's another volunteer fire
department down there in while Sissa they're supposed to be
set up at. But tell us more about your area
(06:56):
because you're you live where can you live in Okay?
All right?
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Yeah? And it so Parks of Perry didn't get it
so bad. I know where I live. It it was
rocking and rolling. I mean, it got it got rough,
you know. I tell everyone the good thing the storm
last year purged a lot of the weakness, you know.
It It took down a lot of the trees that
were you know, so we didn't have as much damage
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this storm. And then I received a call from the
United Cajun Navy to assist with a vessel that got
caught in the storm, sailboat and I had to go
down to cedar Key and launch it cedar Key to
get to that vessel. And I went down there. Uh,
all of their docks at the public boat ramp were
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up in the parking lot. The fire department was there
with the equipment trying to get them back in the water.
So they you know, they didn't have a lot of damage, thankfully,
you know, it was it was minimal, you know, kind
of the same as perry Stein Hatchie Keating Beach the
same way. You know. Don't get me wrong. There's some damage,
but could have been a whole lot worse. And you know,
we don't see it now, but as bad as it
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was last year, that helped us this year.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
I'm okay, there you go, man. I mean, and I
don't live in that area, but I know that, Taya,
the folks that live in Taylor County, which is Perry, yes,
and those areas have been this overwhelmingly hit time after
time after time. I think this is a third really
bad storm. And there's a lot of folks over there
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that have not gotten a roof yet. Right there's still
blue tarps yep. And I thought about that there and
this whole thing. I was like them poor people, I said,
they got these wind gusts and Lord knows that the
tarps are staying on or not, and they're going through
this stuff again. And it's just like how much more
can you take? I mean, it's just one after another
(08:50):
after another. And then Steinhatchie, I seen your posts about
working with Cajun Navy to go after that sail boat.
I believe it, yes, And I was really concerned about you, buh.
I was like, man, please be careful. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
So the Coast Guard would not go after him because
they weren't in a life threatening danger right at the time,
you know, so, and that's the policy the Coast Guard.
You know, they they have bigger fish to fry, and
you know, especially that day right and where they were located.
It took a very shallow running boat, and the FWC
said that they couldn't go out there due to the
(09:28):
high winds, you know, because they felt like they need
an airboat to get to them. And when the United's
Navy contacted me, I said, I have a boat, I
can I can get there. They wanted to go out
there that night, and I said, look, you know, we're
still at fifty mile an hour gust and it's at
night and that area is pretty sketchy. It was. They were.
They were grounded between cedar Key and the wauk Asasa River.
(09:50):
And I don't know if you've ever been in that area,
but it is not having very dangerous. Wow, the little
cove that they were that they're trapped in is all
limestone bottom oyster bars. Oh and we got out there.
It was about a mid tide and I had about
a foot of water to get to them. So I
got there, took them some water, took them some supplies,
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offered to bring them back, to get them a hotel
room and you know, where they could conduct business, try
to get out. It's unfortunately that sailboat is not going anywhere.
I mean they were. They were eighty yards into the marsh,
o five and a half foot keel, three and a
half foot rudder below it, you know, but they were safe.
They had it was two women and two dogs on board,
so they were safe. They decided to stay with the
(10:33):
vessel overnight. The next day after WC went out there,
did a did a check and uh, last I heard,
they brought them back the shore where they could get
a hotel room and try to figure out what they're
gonna do about the vessel.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Well, you know what, God bless you for trying to
save them and everything. But there comes a point where
there is only so much you can do that's right.
And and not only that, but sometimes you know, the
people they don't realize they need to evacuate that vessel.
They leave the boat, leave it. Don't worry about the boat.
(11:06):
You can come out and get the boat later. Saves boat. Yeah,
you can replace the boat. That's right. Cut and Paul,
how about you, brother? I mean we're sitting over here
talking and talking up about this storm. What happened over
Lake Seminole. You were probably out bass fishing, Bud.
Speaker 5 (11:20):
I had some folks down from Nebraska and we went out, Uh,
I guess it was Monday morning, and it was.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
It was.
Speaker 5 (11:28):
It was pretty windy, but nothing like what y'all was
don with. When we went out of my little canal
out to the main lake and Egret flew up and
flew backwards five foot. I said, but it ain't a
good idea. We're just going to drift and I'm not
to steer. You just gonna have to cast. But they
were the fish were definitely bunker down.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Then we didn't get a bite.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Yeah, when you see a bird flying backwards.
Speaker 6 (11:50):
He flew backwards. Yeah, Yah, sat back down again. It's
time for you to go backwards. Well, we're going to
go to break and we'll continue just a few all right, everyone,
welcome back to the Big Ben out Door Show. Captain Paul.
(12:13):
We cut you off as we were heading to break,
so take it back to you.
Speaker 5 (12:16):
Yeah, well I haven't you know, I'm hoping nobody was
killed or anything during the storm, especially in those areas
where it was hit. But would you know what the
storm surge was? Have you heard?
Speaker 2 (12:29):
I don't know an exact number because I've been so
busy cleaning up and trying to play catch up, and
but I heard it was somewhere around six feet.
Speaker 5 (12:38):
And when you said, when they say that six is
that's like straight up six foot in an end, as
far as that's six foot will go correct. Wow, a
lot of water, that's a lot of water.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Yeah, I believe we got fifteen inches of rain. And
Perry if.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
They showed they said live o, live Oat, well live
Oak took a whooping Yeah. Uh, live Oak Florida. In fact,
the water was so bad that they had to shut
down then it flooded. I t yeah, live Oak was
Uh when you got the live oak, there was no
I in so iten was shut down of course, it
was probably good that no one's out on the road
(13:11):
anyway and everything, but I did and then I heard
the last report I seen. Live Oak got sixteen inches
of rain in a very short period of time. I mean,
I know the storm moved slowly, but you take sixteen
inches of rain even over an eight hour period, that's
two inches an hour. There's a lot of water falling
out of the sky. And those soaks over there, boy,
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they got they got hit.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Yeah, yeah, And let me tell you it's not over
with because that storm as it as it hit just
north was it really slowed down and it dumped a
lot of water. Where is that water go The Swanee
River goes. So now we're going to have all that
surge coming down the Swanee River. It's gonna flood Live
Oak again, and and every everywhere around the Swanee River. Yuh.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
I got Lake Mukasook is about a mile from my house,
and my neighbor he called me up and he was like,
because a lot during the winter months, I like fish
in that spillway and he called me up. He goes
the water's coming over the spillway, and I said, I'm
kind of shocked.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
About it.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Actually, I was like really, I said, well, wherever it's
coming from, there's a bunch of it. Because that means
that lake had to raise. Literally, that lake to go
over that spillway at that time had to come up
six inches.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
And you take any lake raising six inches. Yeah, that's huge.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Yeah. And I don't know if this is accurate, but
I know when Joel and I was doing the storm
clean up last year, they were telling us that for
every inch of rain that they get in the swamp
and ok Ok Swamp, it raises the Swine River afoot.
There you go.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
Man, It's amazing how mother nature and what she can
do and everything. But you know, Joel would be here,
but obviously he's tending to his store down there at Jr's.
I was able to finally reach them a little while ago.
I've been trying to call him for days, I have to.
He hadn't had no signal.
Speaker 6 (15:06):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
He was shocked that the phone call that we were
actually talking to one another. But he's had some electrical
issues going on and and everything, and he's down there, uh,
you know, fighting his best fight to get everything up
and back running and taking care of you know, Joel
Joel's out there taking care of everybody else and he'll
tend to himself on the back end. And and because
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that's this way, the people are down there, I mean
him and his dad and the family and and everybody
like yourself and out there helping. Everybody's helping everybody. And
you know, that's the way it's got to be, because
there's not enough help to go around. Well as far
as you know, I mean, the Sheriff's department can only
do so much. Fire department. Everybody's trying to help, help, help,
(15:51):
but when it all comes down to it, it's people
like you and Joel and you know that are that
are out there letting a help in hand. There is
helping everybody get through all this. And I hate to
bring this up, but there's another system, yeah, Bruin, Yeah
there is. And I seen it earlier today and I
just looked at it and went, please no.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
And they're projecting right, I mean it's early on, it's
still building, but they're projecting the same path.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
Yeah, And it's just so my generator, My worst problem
is that you know that generator is shut off, and
I gotta go check a fuel level and get it serviced.
As quick as I can to get ready for another one.
But my problems are I don't have no problems compared
to everybody else. I mean, I really don't, and I'm
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prateful for that.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
The Cajun Navy they called me yesterday and said, hey,
we may need some help in North Carolina. They're looking
at fifty inches of rain from this storm.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Forget about it.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Fifty inches.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
That's nuts. Yeah, that's this insane water right there. The
worst water ever had at my house was from Fay
and we had twenty two inches of rain in twenty
four hours and it flooded my place. I thought I
was sitting in the middle of a lake. I mean,
I had water flowing around my house. And uh, I'll
never forget it because at the time our road was
(17:08):
a dirt road, and the next day when everything when
all the water left, which it left quickly, we had
ruts in our dirt road that were three four foot deep. Wow,
just from the wash out. I'm pretty amazing. So, uh,
lake Seminole your area, what do you think.
Speaker 5 (17:27):
Our our level is? H Actually lake levels full pull
or a little bit below full pool about half a foot.
But we didn't get into a lot of rain up there.
We got it was you could see on the radar
it was right on the edge and we got a
lot of cloud covered wind but.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Not a lot of rain.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Didn't stir up the water.
Speaker 5 (17:46):
Oh yeah, yeah, it kind of moved things around a
little bit.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
Yeah, And that's and people don't realize that too. And Kenny,
you know when count and Paul, you guys are on
the water a lot more than I am out there
guy and all. But what I tell you what, when
these storms come through like this, no matter where you're at,
whatever river you think you know by heart and everything else,
take your time, guys, take your time, because there's gonna
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be a log, there's gonna be something, there's gonna be
a booy marker that's not where it's supposed to be.
That's right and everything. I experienced that in Saint Mark's
one time. I wasn't paying attention like I normally do,
and this marker had gotten moved there at the two
curves and coming out that second curve, going out toward
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the lighthouse Stworadline, that booy marker was way out of
the channel, away from the channel, and I was like, man,
I looked down at my machine. I was like, whoa,
hey man, I'm out of the channel here. We're getting
ready to get crazy. It's the oyster bars and everything else.
But this be careful out there because there's so much
debris in the water right now.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Right, and you won't see it because it's so stirred up.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
That's right. You won't see it as floating weather. And
the worst thing that can happen to you is that
you hit a log or something and people were flying
through the boat. And I mean, this is dangerous, it
really is.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Yeah. I remember it was about five or six years ago,
maybe a little bit more than that. I went to
help out some uh some folks on the Swanee River
after a storm, and it got to be about three
o'clock in the morning, three point thirty. I was tired,
and I said, you know, I'm gonna get back to
the ramp in a hurry. I need to go get
some sleep. I mean I was literally falling asleep on
the boat and I got woke up by hitting a
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log and going airborne.
Speaker 5 (19:30):
Wow, So that'll wake you up.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Yeah, that woke me up.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
Yeah, I don't uh, you know, it's it's just a
dangerous place. After these big storms and this time of year,
UH is crazy with because the winds they do so
much blowing things down and and they get in the
rivers and then the rivers bring it out into the
bay and then it floats and goes all over the Look.
What was that song the other thing with Michael Uh?
(19:55):
There was uh one of our We air another show
on one hundred point seven called the Talent Outdoor Show,
been on for over ten years now. Charlie over there,
Charlie and j D with Talon range do the show. Well,
Charlie and I I de sided. I was going to
take Charlie fishing, and you know, we're out there fishing
for trout and there was a floating there. Now, Lie,
(20:18):
there was a floating piece of dock out there that
looked like someone's tiki bar. And we called it the
duck Blind. It hung around for so long that we
started calling it the duck blind. But it was part
of like a little Tiaki hut and had gotten stuck
in the muck out there, and it was, you know,
just kind of there. And we were fishing out over there,
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and I told Charlie, I said, hey, man, I said,
won't you cast that We were caging thunder rigs. You
have fishing for trout. I said, won don't you cast
over there by the old duck blind And he caught
the biggest red fish in his life over there off
that duck blind. So the fish can be caught around
this debris and everything. There was a little bit of
benefit to it, because you know this stuff that draws
(21:02):
bait and everything. But uh, you know, with it's just
one of those things that we're just saying, be careful,
you know when you're out there traveling around in the water. Now,
I tell you one thing great about today with you
coming in and doing the show, Kenny and Captain Paul,
is that Joel's not here today. That's right, so we
can talk honestly amongst ourselves about his catfish.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Well, he might be able to catch him out of
his yard right now.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
You know that's why. And I tell him maybe that's
why he's not here. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
I didn't think about that, you know. Now, keep an
eye on them all still a river store. You might
see catfish dinners for put up.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
You know what, wouldn't that be some catfish filets and
all He's out there casting them in the front yard
and all, but now we miss them. We wish you
were here and uh and everything. But you know, when
the cat's away, so but UH, tell us more about
what's going on, like seminole go, I tell you what.
Speaker 5 (21:59):
The acci had been biting pretty good, you know. Last week,
last episode we talked about some of those frogs that
they've been work hitting pretty good, and that that bike's continuing,
especially early and late. You know, it's getting so hot
this time of year. You gotta you gotta pick your time.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Now.
Speaker 5 (22:14):
I would have thought typically when you have a tropical
storm or depression or our hurricane comes through, when that
pressure changes the the bass fishing is typically better. It's
typically better. But and the on I guess it was
Friday evening and our Saturday and Sunday they did bite
pretty good, but Monday it was it was a lot slower.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Yeah. And I see out on the Gulf normally pre
system like this, pre front, you know, the official feed,
and I had the opposite. They shut down on me,
you know, and I don't I don't know. I guess
which the right before we had such a high pressure.
Speaker 5 (22:50):
Yeah, and you know how pressure and high.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Pressure and the clients I had on the boat, you know,
because they they've been with me a couple of and
you know, the day before the bite was decent. I mean,
it wasn't great, but it was decent. The next day
just they shut down.
Speaker 5 (23:06):
Which way did your wind come from that day?
Speaker 2 (23:08):
South?
Speaker 3 (23:08):
Sent from the south.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
But it was such a high pressure and I didn't
have to say anything. The guy says, you know what,
we're with this high pressure sitting on us. You know,
we're not going to catch them. We're just gonna have
a good time. We're enjoy ourselves, going to go back
to the dock and have memories. Don't get me wrong.
We caught fish, but it was they didn't They were
not feeding like they were now. I did not go yesterday,
(23:29):
but I got a report from a good friend of
mine who did go out pre fishing for a tournament,
and he said they whacked him.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
So I got a trip plan for the twenty sixth.
I'm going by moon phase and hopefully I'll be able
to go. But that's when the moon will be up
all day, just about until almost three o'clock in the afternoon,
and I'm gonna give it heck and get out there
and see how any I can put in the boat.
Oh yeah, it's been a while since I've been down
on the coast fish. I've been doing a little freshwater
(23:58):
fishing and catchings miny nice bluegills.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
I want to say, Well, we'll talk about that when
we come back from this break.
Speaker 6 (24:15):
All.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Everyone, welcome back to the Big Man out Door Show.
So before we went to break you mentioned some blue gill.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
Man fly right on that on the fly ride, you
know what on the fly rid. But before that, me
and my friend Bobby did a trip I think I
already talked about on previous show. But in Lake mcsookie, Uh,
there are some giants. There are some giant fish out there. Now,
that's a hard lake to fish because the vegetation's everywhere.
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You got you know, you got all kinds of lily
pads everywhere. You got a lot of different grasses. And
there's names for him that I can't even keep track of.
And but I'll tell you this right now. Some of
the biggest blue gill I ever caught my life. And
I've been fishing since I probably in Central Florida. I'm
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from Central Florida. I'd say I started fishing when I
really fishing. Fishing when I was twelve, and I've caught
a lot of fish on the fly rod when you
were talking about fly fishing, not when I was twelve,
but in my twenties, and I caught a lot of
big fish on fly big blue gills, but nothing like
what I call in MIKASOOKI these fish. I got blue gills.
I'm catching pound and a half. Wow, you know, going
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on pound and a half pounding three quarters? They're giants.
There's a size there. They're almost covering a paper plate.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Wow, that bill.
Speaker 5 (25:34):
I don't know if I can say it on air,
but I'm just gonna say, breast brim. You gotta hold
them against.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
You, yeah, your chest?
Speaker 5 (25:39):
Yeah, Okay, they so big. You got a hold of
them like that?
Speaker 3 (25:42):
Yeah? Well, and you're right you do, because when I
went all those hands around, that's the first thing I
did was take that shirt off and throw it in
the washing machine because I know Mama won't going to
be happy with me throwing it in the laundry basket
and that smell coming off of it. So but uh,
you know, a good time there fishing for blue gills
in the lake, and there's a lot of that going on.
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Blue gills Paul. Don't they pretty much spawn throughout the.
Speaker 5 (26:09):
Summer, don't They'll spawn all the way into.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
September, all the way into September.
Speaker 5 (26:13):
Yes, they've been spawning up there on the lakes, so
I'm sure they're spawning on Lake Tac. When you can
find some brim spawning, they'll they'll spawn typically on the
moon's new moon and full moon. But he don't have
to have the moon from the spawn. My mentor proved
that to me this past couple of weeks. I mean,
he's he found probably forty beds in between the moonfaces.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
And that's something. But there's a lot of good fishing
in the local lakes. You can fish off the shore
and catch fish just as easy as going out on
a boat.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Man.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
There's so many bodies of water around that don't get fished.
In fact, I was I was just looking at one earlier.
I drove by, and I was like, you know, there's
one right there, no one's fishing, and I bet that
thing is loaded up with big fish.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Oh yeah. I posted a picture on our Facebook page.
I guess there's a few weeks ago about a fishing
hole that we came across in the middle of the woods.
We were just out there hiking through the woods, and
then my kids went back there fishing and just slay them.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
So there's stuff out there that you know, get out
and explore, go hiking.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
Yeah, go, but be careful. Just hey, have a good time. Go,
but watch you're where you're walking.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
Yeah, because you got you're living in Florida. Now okay,
well you're in you're in a jungle.
Speaker 5 (27:27):
You got something to bite you.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
There are plenty of things out there that want to
buy you, so the snakes, the gators and everything else.
But normally, normally you're gonna be just fine if you
just pay attention to your environment and you can go
out there and have a good time and catch some fish.
That's right.
Speaker 5 (27:44):
That's what you know, Kenny. As guys, you know, we're
we really pay attention and are observant to any little change,
you know, because you know, you got to read to water.
You've heard them old timers reed to water. Oh yeah,
And you know by doing that when you're in the wool,
as you read the woods. I'm assuming you're reading the woods,
you're aware what your surroundings are and and and that's
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one thing I love about fishing. Is that just the
awareness and then making some you know, seeing the changes,
even like this live scope. People think of live scope
as you see the fish, you catch a fish. There's
way more to it than that. I think live scope
is great for freshwater, and I'm sure it's the same
for saltwater. To let me know what I think, the
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fish behavior is confirmed, the fish behavior which you can
adjust to that for your customers to catch more fish.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
Oh yeah, that's like when I went up to Lake
Enid and Lake Granada and Mississippi.
Speaker 5 (28:43):
I bet that was awesome.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Yeah, we had we were using livescope, But let me
tell you, you get to see just how picky those
fishes to truth. You know, people think, so, oh, there's
no fish here, and I tell them all the time, Hey,
there's fish here. Even out here on the fire, there's
fish here. They're here. They're just not feeding right now.
I'm not leaving me because I know they're here, and
when it gets right, they're gonna eat. Yeah, you know.
And when you have live scope and you can see that,
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or you drop a jig down and they come up
to it and then they turn away from it and
you swap to a different color than they eat it.
Speaker 5 (29:13):
Yeah, you know you learn a lot just by that.
And that that brings up something I want to talk
to you about. A cent. Do you use much Berkeley
power bait? I have the gulp in particular, yes, this
time of the year especially. Do you why this time
of ye why do you find it being better? Because
I started. I had a trip last weekend where he
called from Crappie and I used gulp, little gulp three
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inch minutes for the first time, and it was pretty impressive.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
I think the reason this year or this time of
the year is because the fishing's tougher. So other parts
of the year I don't have to use it. The
leatch pretty much anything I put in front of them,
but you know, this time of the year it's tougher.
You got to use every evantage you can, right, So
it's probably catch them just as good as the rest
of the year if I used it, but I don't
have to. So it's I.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Tell you how you know that the scented baits work
is when and we'll talk about brands because we don't
have no brand loyalty in this room. But when gulp
come out with their new pennies and their three inch
and everything. Man, that's all I swore up and down.
That's all I'd ever have hanging underneath that cage and
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thunderreg and all. But then they started, you know, pricing
go price. Things go up as a matter of time.
But prices went up, so I started looking around and
seeing what else I could use. Well, next thing, I know,
there's two other brands out there with scented baits, yep,
and I'm like one of them, I think was z
man ze Man put out the man. They got a
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five inch white boy. That thing's dangerous.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
And their scent is actually pro cure. Yeah, I don't
know if you've ever used pro c Here the pro
cure you can get it in a bottle and you
can apply it to any soft plastic it or heartbeat.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
Right right, But in different different baites like that that
have this sin in them. Uh, you know, if you can,
if you can buy that, buy it, use it. You
can't go wrong. I mean, you're not hurting yourself by
no means, you know, just giving yourself an added foot up.
Speaker 5 (31:14):
You might say, yeah, I've seen that, you know, in
bass fish and using different scent and and for sure
never really used it for crappy, you know what I mean,
because I figure if I can see, if I can
catch them, you know what I mean. But not just
because I can feel that way, my customer might I
feel like that, you know so. But it was neat
watching those fish. How they would just standing piece of
standing timber. The crappie would get against the timber and
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it looked like a knot on the and you had
to make it come right beside it. But you throw
that gul up over there and you can you swim
off the tree and come right it like cow.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
That's pretty impressive. Have you ever heard of fish bites?
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (31:47):
Yeah, I have. They like candy, like candy for fish.
Speaker 5 (31:51):
Oh like little things for called crappy.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
This comes in like the particularly one I'm talking about.
They have new ones now that are shrimp shape and
all that. But it was like a ribbon. It comes
in like a ribbon. You cut pieces off almost like
a stick a bubble gum.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
So it was like gum.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
So I had never used it. And I think this
was two maybe three years ago. I had some people
on the boat and they had me booked for four
days We're scolloping fish and just having a good time,
and the guy says, hey, have you ever heard of
fish bites? I said no. He said, here's forty bucks,
go buy a couple of packs. Keep the change. He said,
let's try him. Okay. So I went to the bait
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store that night and I found some and they had
crab flavor, shrimp, flavor, squid, I mean all kinds. So
I got the shrimp and the and the crab, and
we went back out the next day and I said,
I don't know how to I didn't even look it up,
so I don't know how to use these. So I
just hooked it one time under popping cork. Just took
it with a regular jay hook and started popping. We
were catching the fire out of fish, and I was like, well,
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this thing just looks it's like I cut like a
two and a half.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
Inch strips like gum. It looks like a stick of gum.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
But it sent it and then inside of whatever that
is that that bait that looks like the gum is
like a fiberglass looking mesh. And let me tell you
you can't. You got to cut it off the hook.
Speaker 5 (33:16):
Wow, you can catch multiple fish on it.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
Yes. Oh yeah. So we were limiting out and I
kept using it, kept using. We were limited on red
fish drout. I'm like, man, this stuff is unreal. So
one of the other local guides asked me, he said, hey,
what are you catching all those fish on? I told
him fish bites, and he said, I know what you're
trying to do to me, and it's not going to work.
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He thought I was messing with him. I said, look, man,
I'm telling you. So I took a pack and I
put it on his boat and the next day I
came back to my dock and it was sitting there,
and he texted me. He said, you're not going to
do this to me. I was like, man, I'm serious,
that's really what I'm catching it on.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
Yeah right, I mean, hey, something like that probably probably
could use up there for for catfish and a heartbeat.
Speaker 5 (34:01):
You ain't kid, Oh yeah, I'm looking it up right now.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
Yeah, I'm on it.
Speaker 5 (34:06):
So I know a lot of the Pompino guys use them. Yeah,
it's like a little shit, like like you'd use a
little three inch man, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
It's right, that's it.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
Yep, that's cool.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
Yeah, it's just something I never would have tried. Well,
I didn't even know about it. I know it's big
on the East Coach, but a lot of surf fishermen
use them, but hey, it worn't and it's sent you know.
And the good thing about them too is now I'll
use them to catch pinfish, you know, because it stays
on the hook. You can just put on a little
brim hook and catch pinfish after pinfish with it tipic
(34:40):
And you know you were talking about the Gulf. So
typically this time of the year, I use live pinfish.
Speaker 5 (34:45):
Yeah, and our spins for redfish.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
Well for redfish, correct, But but typically I'll use live pinfish. Well,
this year I have not. I haven't been more productive
with pinfish than I have with gold. And the reason
why is because there's abundance of shrimp, and so I
get the three inch gulp and I'm catching just as
much as I would with the penfish. So why full
with live bait when I can just take go up
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out there and catch just as many fish.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
But don't leave that gulp on your hook.
Speaker 5 (35:14):
No, I have one poor crying used to shrink.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
Hey man, old uncle joshus now and I'm I'm gonna
skip away from the subject I was getting ready to
talk about and everything because this is remind me I
was go ask you earlier. You're younger than me. But
back in the day bass fishing, what scent was most popular?
Speaker 2 (35:39):
Let's hold that thought till after this break. Yeah, all right, everyone,
welcome back to the big outdoor shows. So before we
went to break, Dale asked you a question, do you remember?
Speaker 5 (35:56):
That question was, yes, What's what scent do I remember? First?
I'm or fish formula?
Speaker 3 (36:01):
And what was the scent?
Speaker 5 (36:04):
They had? Shad crawlfish mainly, I remember shad, and they
had a shrimp flavor too, I.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
Believe what would do? What would you think was one
of the original scents used for bass fishing WT forty Well,
my uncles say that wasn't one of them, but it
wasn't one I was aware of.
Speaker 6 (36:20):
So I was thinking that, but I wasn't going to
say it.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
And all well, coffee, yeah, a lot of uh.
Speaker 5 (36:28):
I know Strike King now.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
Uses coffee a lot of their coffee. Back in the day,
I knew people that would take a can of coffee
and put their lures in that coffee and just let
them sit there and everything, But coffee was a big
time scent that was used back back and more back
years ago, and everythink so anyhow this is uh.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
That's pretty good.
Speaker 5 (36:50):
And yeah, companies to day right now or make it
put coffee sent in their baits.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
So and that is Somethinghow the different flavors I call
them more of a flavor than I do a but
this is scent. But how that all works. And you
think about in their natural environment, what all scents are
in that water? You know, what are they smelling? You know,
because there's things that are are moving around and carrying on.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
You know.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
One of the biggest deer I know jumping off fishing,
on the hunting and all. But one of the biggest
deer I ever took was a night after I had chili.
So my wife said, you want me to get that
grunt call for you for Christmas? I said no, I said,
just make another batch of chili, all right. But uh,
you know it's it's noises and sense whatever makes it work.
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But you can take those scent bait like you were
talking about what's that called again? Uh? Well the gold
you no, the one looked like gum.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
Oh h fish bites.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
Fish bikees for you all listening. You're fishing off the shore,
you get some of that fish bies, you go out
there and put them out there on the bottom. Man,
wait for it, because it's going to happen. You go
catch a big old catfish or any other kind of
fish that may come along there.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
Oh yeah, this time of year, it's hard to get
live bait unless you know, you get out on the boat.
You get out, you know, in deeper water. You know,
it's hard to get shrimp at the bait stores because
the shrimp boats aren't getting them this time of year
because they're out so deep, right, you know, So think
outside the box. Get stuff like your gulps, your fish bites,
and some pro cure or whatever you got to do,
you know, frozen mall it.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
You know, I've been seeing the post on the Facebook
site you've been working on, and uh, we appreciate that
you're doing a great job and everything. But folks, you know,
the to the to the people out there listening, you
got questions. Reach out to these guys. You know, they're
they're charter captains, their captains. This is what they do
for a living. And uh, for me, I'm I'm just
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hanging around learning as I go and all boat. These
guys are captains. Just what they do all the time.
And it's not always about you know, charter and a
fishing trip. If you got you want to take your son,
your daughter, uh, and your your your mom, your wife,
whoever it is, your grandparents out fishing and you need
a little help, reach out to him on the Facebook.
Ask him a question of two. I'm sure they'll get
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back to you gladly and point you in the right
direction and all. So that's what this show is all about.
We're here to educate and teach people things and learn
things and as a community of people that love the
fish and love the great outdoors and everything. I tell you,
I haven't caught up with Carson yet. Have you to
find out how the tournament?
Speaker 5 (39:29):
I have not yet. I hope he did real well.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
I'm going to give them a ring tomorrow and see
if we can't get him back on the show because
that was a special show. Yeah, it really was having
that young man on the show. And Kenny, you're involved
in all contests. Oh, I seen your posts the other day.
I was like, well, he needs one more thing to
do and they'll have our number twenty four full.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
Yeah. So this time of year it really gets busy
for me because I do track wounded here for people
with my dogs. This year, I've added a thermal drone.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
That's what I was going to bring up. Yeah, tell
us about that matter.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
So the thermal drone is really neat. Now. It does
have its limitations on thick vegetation, thick cover, I should say,
but it does have a place and you know, one
of the things that I like about it is, you know,
sometimes I can just put that thing up and and
find find the animal in just literally seconds. You know.
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For instance, I got a call last week and to
track a deer in a high fence and another guy
took some young dogs out there. Wasn't able to locate it.
And it turns out this deer was in the wide open.
It was one hundred and sixty inch buck wow, but
it was in about three foot tall sage grass. Yeah,
you know. And the dogs, this guy's dogs, one of
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them he got from a guy in Texas and he
didn't know anything about it. He took it out there
and what ended up happening is the dogs that young
pup started going the right direction. Well, the individual says, hey,
it didn't go that way. I could have seen it.
So the handler, the tracker pulled the dogs off. Well,
the first thing you do is trust your dog, you know, right,
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if you call us, let us do our job. You know,
I've been doing this long enough. I've been doing this
over a very long time. I don't let that bother me.
I just tell them, hey, if you could have found
it without me, you'd have your deer. So sit back.
Let me do my job, you know, I do it.
I'm not a jerk about it, but I let them know. Hey,
if nothing else, let's let the dog get it out
of their system. Most time they're going to go find
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the deer. But in this case it didn't happen. Well, literally,
fly the drone up and as soon as it got
high enough, bam, there was heat signature, you know. And
and the other thing is, you know, let's say the
deer crosses the property line. Well, you don't have you
you can't get a hold of the people right away.
I could put that drone up and I could see, Hey,
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either it's still alive or it's right there. If it's
still alive and it's going to live, there's no point
in going through and bothering someone in late hours of
the night to try to get permission. Sure, So that's
another advantage of it, but another great it's a great
resource for doing deer heard analysis and surveys on your property.
You know, I'm going this weekend to do a deer
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herd survey in Georgia. The guy so, he called me.
He said, Look, he said, I've got a bunch of bucks,
a bunch of deer in my peanut fields. He said,
But I'm trying to look at him through my thermal
and everything's too tall. All I can see is the
tips of the races as well. I'll come here. I'll
let you know everything that you have, you know, and
especially in that environment. But you know, like I said,
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this is busy time of year myself. Now my son's eighteen.
He's getting involved in tracking wounded deer. So typically I
track two hundred and fifty wounded deer year. Wow, just
just in this area.
Speaker 3 (42:53):
That's huge, you know.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
And about eleven years I think it was eleven years ago,
we started a face book group it's called the Florida
Blood Trailing Network. And then a year after that we
started one called the Georgia Blood Trailing Network. We volunteer.
This is all volunteer, right, So you go on there.
There's a list of trackers. I think at one time
we're at one hundred and seventy trackers. I think now
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it's just dwindled down. I think we're about eighty five
trackers in the state of Florida. Right, And if you
need help, you go on there. You there's a list
you can call the people and there's no charge.
Speaker 3 (43:25):
I'll be day wow, that's how about that?
Speaker 5 (43:27):
That way you know your game's not wasted, you know, right,
that's that's awesome.
Speaker 3 (43:31):
And that's what it's all about. It. It's about you know,
that's what you just said it right there. Conservation And
that's what most hunters, the majority that hunt and fish,
most of us out there, are about conservation because we
know that if we don't conserve today, there'll be no tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (43:50):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (43:50):
And uh, we want our grandkids and our great grandkids
to be out there hunting, fishing and telling stories about us.
Speaker 2 (43:58):
Now, those people, this will probably blow your mind. Just
in our listening area right here, how many wounded deer
do you think we're recovered? Just in the listening listening
area right.
Speaker 5 (44:09):
Here last year.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
Yeah, take a guess three eleven eleven yourself. No, no, no, no,
I'm talking other tractors in the area. You know.
Speaker 3 (44:21):
Eleven hundred?
Speaker 5 (44:22):
Yes, now are most is that? Are most of those
like shot with a bow or it could be with a.
Speaker 2 (44:27):
Good what a fact. It's there's more gun than bo
But that's also because there's more gun hunters than the woods.
Speaker 1 (44:33):
Right.
Speaker 2 (44:34):
But if you think about that's eleven hundred deer that
would have wasted.
Speaker 3 (44:38):
Man, that's a lot.
Speaker 2 (44:40):
And you know now now that we have bag limits,
we've had them for I forget how long, seven eight
years now, but that's even more significant because now you're
you're saving another deer from being taken on that bag limit.
Speaker 3 (44:53):
What what amazed me? And crazy thing I researched here
years ago when I was talking to some processors that process,
you know, process the deer. You take them and they
make sausage and everything else. Is how many that they
process a year? Oh yeah, during the season. Yeah, I'm
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telling you right now that average processor. Now you think
you got you got Jones, you got Limestone, you got
all these processors around here, and average about three thousand
deer a year per processor you're talking. I think I
did the math. There was like fifteen thousand years.
Speaker 5 (45:37):
I think that'd be a lot of deer taking off
every year.
Speaker 3 (45:39):
But oh no, it's not affecting the population of the deer,
trust me, because there's still out there. In fact, my
friend Bobby's wife had one jump out in front of
her Toyota four Runner and going to work here a
few weeks ago, and went through, went into the windshield
on the driver's side. Okay, used up her hands, her
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hands were on steering wheel, and she got glass, Bobby
said when he got to her glass. Everything. Bless her heart,
I mean. And it rolled hit the windshield in front
of her, went in, hit the steering wheel, and then
rolled back over the top and hit the sun roof
of that four Runner. And she's still waiting on her
car to get back from the collision center. Wow, and everything,
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and God, bless her soul. She's all right. But I'm
sure I wasn't there and everything, But in talking with
her husband, Bobby is a friend of mine, it was
it was close, and the highway patrol officer told Bobby
this could.
Speaker 2 (46:37):
Have been really really bad. Oh yeah, So deer.
Speaker 3 (46:40):
Are plentiful, They're everywhere and hunters keep hunting.
Speaker 2 (46:44):
Seasons five weeks away, ma'am. There we go, we are,
we're getting close on time. Captain Paul, how can everyone
find you?
Speaker 3 (46:52):
They can?
Speaker 5 (46:52):
They can reach out to me at eight five zero
two six four seven five three four and they can
follow me on Facebook at Captain Paul Tyer Fishing. To
have any questions on anything we discussed or right that
might be able to ask instant message me and love
to answer it all.
Speaker 2 (47:06):
Right, And I'm Captain Kenny Mallins re Elyptic Charters on
all social media phone numbers eight five zero eight three
eight six one zero one and reelypic charters dot com.
And you know, let's give a shout out to Joel
which is all still outlaws jo Alsilla River Store. You
can find him on social media as well. And we
appreciate everyone for tuning in this week and we will
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be back next week.
Speaker 1 (47:29):
You've been listening to The Big Bend Outdoor Show with
Joel Baldry, join us every Saturday morning at eight am
on ninety six five the Spear and on demand with
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This is the Big Bend Outdoor Show with Joel Baldry.
Today's guest include Captain Paul Tyre and special guest Dale Bessie.
Here's your special guest host, Captain Kenny Mullins.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Good morning everyone, Welcome to the Big Bend Outdoors Show.
Today we have Captain Paul Tyre, we have Dale and myself,
Captain Kenny Mullins. Joel was not able to be here today.
He's dealing with some storm related stuff, but you know,
we keep him in our thoughts and prayers as he's
dealing with that stuff along with everyone else impacted by
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the hurricane.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Man, you ain't kidding, boy, what a mess. Oh yeah,
I'll tell you. I live in Jefferson County and I
couldn't believe that. I read a report that we were
ninety nine point eight percent county wide without power, the
whole county and we were on the west side, literally
on the west side of that storm. You wouldn't have
thought that it would be like that, but end up
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being that way. And you, sir, you were in the
middle of it.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Oh yeah, it got bad.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Well, tell us all about it.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
So we we stayed, We stayed and rode it. Out,
and I you know, I have a dog training business.
We had a bunch of dog client dogs, and so
I had to I had to stick with them. We
pulled all them out of the kennels and put them
in some dog trailers. I had put them up against
the house blocked the wind, and we didn't We cut
a lot of trees out of our yard, so we
didn't have any real danger there. But we decided to
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ride it out. And every storm we've had, every hurricane,
there's been a tornado go down the same path behind
our house. Wow, and this one was no different. We
had the same thing. Tornado went right down that same
exact path. We ended up losing two sheds, a roof
off of one of the kennels. But other than that,
you know, just minimal stuff, you know, all that can
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be replaced. But I tell you, I believe that it
was an underrated storm.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Yeah, I think you're rock Anny.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
I think, uh slow moving, too slow moving, and uh
you know, but I mean there were so many times
when I looked out in my back My backyard is
the pasture, you know, for my cows, and.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
I'm looking out there and the cows are out there
eating in the rain. I mean they're they're eating their feeding,
they're up and normally, if it's bad enough, they're bettered
down up in the woodlines somewhere you know, they go hide.
But they were out there and I didn't think much
of it, man. I mean a few serious gusts of
wind and stuff. But next thing you know, there went
the power and the generator kicked on. I'm very grateful.
(02:28):
I got a generak on the house and all, but
that generator. Boy, that thing didn't shut off till five
point fifteen. What was it So that five point fifteen
Wednesday night is when it finally shut off and we've
got power now. I'm gonna tell you something, straight up.
Hats offt to them linemen, Hats off to Hats off
to all the utility workers. I was going to say
(02:49):
the Duke boys, but there's Tri County, there's Duke, there's Talkling.
All these guys are out there in this mess, away
from their families, taking care of us, and I just
want to say thank you from the bottom of my heart,
and everybody else is we are very grateful that you're
doing what you do and doing it during the time
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that most people wouldn't even think about being out there
doing any kind of work.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
That's yeah. So on my way here this morning, Uh,
there was some linemen. I looked over and they were
literally chin deep in the water stretching lines.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Isn't that's something man? Yeah, that's in Florida. That reminds
me of back in the day when I did a
lot of coon hunting. I showed dogs. I actually had
two night Champions and a Grand Night Champion hound and
we would get out in the swamps at night and
we'd be just deep. But I'm gonna tell you something.
You swing that light around you seeing nothing but gator
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eyes and everything else. These guys are out there doing it.
They ain't got they don't have no guns on them. No,
you know they're not. They're not armed and ready. They're
just out there doing it because that's their job and
their their jobs to get the power restored. And again,
God bless them all.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Yeah, and astly I was without. I was very fortunate.
I did have three generators. I am I am going
to get a generat. I'm not dealing with this. I
can say enough good about it. It's uh, you know,
there's a lot of companies that sell them and everything
but we can talk after the show. There's one company
that takes care of all my service online, and I
recommend that company because there's a lot of companies that
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sell them, but they don't install them right, and then
you got to call a company to service it. And
the best thing you can do is buy it from
a company that's called service it and install it, because
then you got one stop shop right there and everything.
And I highly recommend it that way. But my guys,
they come out and they service it, you know, once
(04:44):
a year. And man, that thing when when it kicks
on and your house kicks up, it ain't no better
feeling than that air conditioning. No, Because I'll tell you
I pulled all three of my generators out the day
before the storm hit. All of them were purring like
a kid, yeah, man, and storm came lost power. One
out of the three was running there you go. Yeah,
So I was out there in the rain working on
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these things in there.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Man, been there. That's reason we ended up getting ours.
It's probably been ten twelve years ago. I had a
little four thousand kilowatt generator and it ran the refrigerator,
ceiling fans in the TV and we live in the country.
We have a well. It didn't run the well, it
didn't have no well, no water. Right, my wife was
smart enough to have the tubs full of water and
(05:28):
everything to operate the bathrooms. But in general, man, those generators,
those generas, they are worth every penny, every penny.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Yeah. Now, we were fortunate we received our power back
the same day.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Nice.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
I think we were out of power for that. That's probably.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Son of a gun.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Yeah, so I think our power was out thirteen hours.
And the winds they kicked up, they had to have
been around ninety mile an hour. I got a video
of it when I went outside. It was just it
was crazy. And Try County was out there ninety miles
an hour winds riding looking at the power lines, assessing everything. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Man, that when we're tucked away, I mean we're tucked
away in our little our little cabins and everything. Man,
these guys are out there. They're they're not chasing the storm.
They're in the storm. That's right, and everything, and it uh,
you can't say enough good about them. I'm it's just uh,
you know, the National Guard's been in Jefferson County helping
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those in need with tarps and water and mrs and
they're probably going to still be there. So if you're
listening to the show and you need some help, you
can go to the volunteer fire Department right there in
Lloyd on Lloyd Old Lloyd Road and they they should
have plenty of supplies left. And there's another volunteer fire
department down there in while Sissa they're supposed to be
set up at. But tell us more about your area
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because you're you live where can you live in Okay?
All right?
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Yeah? And it so Parks of Perry didn't get it
so bad. I know where I live. It it was
rocking and rolling. I mean, it got it got rough,
you know. I tell everyone the good thing the storm
last year purged a lot of the weakness, you know.
It It took down a lot of the trees that
were you know, so we didn't have as much damage
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this storm. And then I received a call from the
United Cajun Navy to assist with a vessel that got
caught in the storm, sailboat and I had to go
down to cedar Key and launch it cedar Key to
get to that vessel. And I went down there. Uh,
all of their docks at the public boat ramp were
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up in the parking lot. The fire department was there
with the equipment trying to get them back in the water.
So they you know, they didn't have a lot of damage, thankfully,
you know, it was it was minimal, you know, kind
of the same as perry Stein Hatchie Keating Beach the
same way. You know. Don't get me wrong. There's some damage,
but could have been a whole lot worse. And you know,
we don't see it now, but as bad as it
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was last year, that helped us this year.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
I'm okay, there you go, man. I mean, and I
don't live in that area, but I know that, Taya,
the folks that live in Taylor County, which is Perry, yes,
and those areas have been this overwhelmingly hit time after
time after time. I think this is a third really
bad storm. And there's a lot of folks over there
(08:29):
that have not gotten a roof yet. Right there's still
blue tarps yep. And I thought about that there and
this whole thing. I was like them poor people, I said,
they got these wind gusts and Lord knows that the
tarps are staying on or not, and they're going through
this stuff again. And it's just like how much more
can you take? I mean, it's just one after another
(08:50):
after another. And then Steinhatchie, I seen your posts about
working with Cajun Navy to go after that sail boat.
I believe it, yes, And I was really concerned about you, buh.
I was like, man, please be careful. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
So the Coast Guard would not go after him because
they weren't in a life threatening danger right at the time,
you know, so, and that's the policy the Coast Guard.
You know, they they have bigger fish to fry, and
you know, especially that day right and where they were located.
It took a very shallow running boat, and the FWC
said that they couldn't go out there due to the
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high winds, you know, because they felt like they need
an airboat to get to them. And when the United's
Navy contacted me, I said, I have a boat, I
can I can get there. They wanted to go out
there that night, and I said, look, you know, we're
still at fifty mile an hour gust and it's at
night and that area is pretty sketchy. It was. They were.
They were grounded between cedar Key and the wauk Asasa River.
(09:50):
And I don't know if you've ever been in that area,
but it is not having very dangerous. Wow, the little
cove that they were that they're trapped in is all
limestone bottom oyster bars. Oh and we got out there.
It was about a mid tide and I had about
a foot of water to get to them. So I
got there, took them some water, took them some supplies,
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offered to bring them back, to get them a hotel
room and you know, where they could conduct business, try
to get out. It's unfortunately that sailboat is not going anywhere.
I mean they were. They were eighty yards into the marsh,
o five and a half foot keel, three and a
half foot rudder below it, you know, but they were safe.
They had it was two women and two dogs on board,
so they were safe. They decided to stay with the
(10:33):
vessel overnight. The next day after WC went out there,
did a did a check and uh, last I heard,
they brought them back the shore where they could get
a hotel room and try to figure out what they're
gonna do about the vessel.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Well, you know what, God bless you for trying to
save them and everything. But there comes a point where
there is only so much you can do that's right.
And and not only that, but sometimes you know, the
people they don't realize they need to evacuate that vessel.
They leave the boat, leave it. Don't worry about the boat.
(11:06):
You can come out and get the boat later. Saves boat. Yeah,
you can replace the boat. That's right. Cut and Paul,
how about you, brother? I mean we're sitting over here
talking and talking up about this storm. What happened over
Lake Seminole. You were probably out bass fishing, Bud.
Speaker 5 (11:20):
I had some folks down from Nebraska and we went out, Uh,
I guess it was Monday morning, and it was.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
It was.
Speaker 5 (11:28):
It was pretty windy, but nothing like what y'all was
don with. When we went out of my little canal
out to the main lake and Egret flew up and
flew backwards five foot. I said, but it ain't a
good idea. We're just going to drift and I'm not
to steer. You just gonna have to cast. But they
were the fish were definitely bunker down.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Then we didn't get a bite.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Yeah, when you see a bird flying backwards.
Speaker 6 (11:50):
He flew backwards. Yeah, Yah, sat back down again. It's
time for you to go backwards. Well, we're going to
go to break and we'll continue just a few all right, everyone,
welcome back to the Big Ben out Door Show. Captain Paul.
(12:13):
We cut you off as we were heading to break,
so take it back to you.
Speaker 5 (12:16):
Yeah, well I haven't you know, I'm hoping nobody was
killed or anything during the storm, especially in those areas
where it was hit. But would you know what the
storm surge was? Have you heard?
Speaker 2 (12:29):
I don't know an exact number because I've been so
busy cleaning up and trying to play catch up, and
but I heard it was somewhere around six feet.
Speaker 5 (12:38):
And when you said, when they say that six is
that's like straight up six foot in an end, as
far as that's six foot will go correct. Wow, a
lot of water, that's a lot of water.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Yeah, I believe we got fifteen inches of rain. And
Perry if.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
They showed they said live o, live Oat, well live
Oak took a whooping Yeah. Uh, live Oak Florida. In fact,
the water was so bad that they had to shut
down then it flooded. I t yeah, live Oak was
Uh when you got the live oak, there was no
I in so iten was shut down of course, it
was probably good that no one's out on the road
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anyway and everything, but I did and then I heard
the last report I seen. Live Oak got sixteen inches
of rain in a very short period of time. I mean,
I know the storm moved slowly, but you take sixteen
inches of rain even over an eight hour period, that's
two inches an hour. There's a lot of water falling
out of the sky. And those soaks over there, boy,
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they got they got hit.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Yeah, yeah, And let me tell you it's not over
with because that storm as it as it hit just
north was it really slowed down and it dumped a
lot of water. Where is that water go The Swanee
River goes. So now we're going to have all that
surge coming down the Swanee River. It's gonna flood Live
Oak again, and and every everywhere around the Swanee River. Yuh.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
I got Lake Mukasook is about a mile from my house,
and my neighbor he called me up and he was like,
because a lot during the winter months, I like fish
in that spillway and he called me up. He goes
the water's coming over the spillway, and I said, I'm
kind of shocked.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
About it.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Actually, I was like really, I said, well, wherever it's
coming from, there's a bunch of it. Because that means
that lake had to raise. Literally, that lake to go
over that spillway at that time had to come up
six inches.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
And you take any lake raising six inches. Yeah, that's huge.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Yeah. And I don't know if this is accurate, but
I know when Joel and I was doing the storm
clean up last year, they were telling us that for
every inch of rain that they get in the swamp
and ok Ok Swamp, it raises the Swine River afoot.
There you go.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
Man, It's amazing how mother nature and what she can
do and everything. But you know, Joel would be here,
but obviously he's tending to his store down there at Jr's.
I was able to finally reach them a little while ago.
I've been trying to call him for days, I have to.
He hadn't had no signal.
Speaker 6 (15:06):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
He was shocked that the phone call that we were
actually talking to one another. But he's had some electrical
issues going on and and everything, and he's down there, uh,
you know, fighting his best fight to get everything up
and back running and taking care of you know, Joel
Joel's out there taking care of everybody else and he'll
tend to himself on the back end. And and because
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that's this way, the people are down there, I mean
him and his dad and the family and and everybody
like yourself and out there helping. Everybody's helping everybody. And
you know, that's the way it's got to be, because
there's not enough help to go around. Well as far
as you know, I mean, the Sheriff's department can only
do so much. Fire department. Everybody's trying to help, help, help,
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but when it all comes down to it, it's people
like you and Joel and you know that are that
are out there letting a help in hand. There is
helping everybody get through all this. And I hate to
bring this up, but there's another system, yeah, Bruin, Yeah
there is. And I seen it earlier today and I
just looked at it and went, please no.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
And they're projecting right, I mean it's early on, it's
still building, but they're projecting the same path.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
Yeah, And it's just so my generator, My worst problem
is that you know that generator is shut off, and
I gotta go check a fuel level and get it serviced.
As quick as I can to get ready for another one.
But my problems are I don't have no problems compared
to everybody else. I mean, I really don't, and I'm
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prateful for that.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
The Cajun Navy they called me yesterday and said, hey,
we may need some help in North Carolina. They're looking
at fifty inches of rain from this storm.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Forget about it.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Fifty inches.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
That's nuts. Yeah, that's this insane water right there. The
worst water ever had at my house was from Fay
and we had twenty two inches of rain in twenty
four hours and it flooded my place. I thought I
was sitting in the middle of a lake. I mean,
I had water flowing around my house. And uh, I'll
never forget it because at the time our road was
(17:08):
a dirt road, and the next day when everything when
all the water left, which it left quickly, we had
ruts in our dirt road that were three four foot deep. Wow,
just from the wash out. I'm pretty amazing. So, uh,
lake Seminole your area, what do you think.
Speaker 5 (17:27):
Our our level is? H Actually lake levels full pull
or a little bit below full pool about half a foot.
But we didn't get into a lot of rain up there.
We got it was you could see on the radar
it was right on the edge and we got a
lot of cloud covered wind but.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Not a lot of rain.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Didn't stir up the water.
Speaker 5 (17:46):
Oh yeah, yeah, it kind of moved things around a
little bit.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
Yeah, And that's and people don't realize that too. And Kenny,
you know when count and Paul, you guys are on
the water a lot more than I am out there
guy and all. But what I tell you what, when
these storms come through like this, no matter where you're at,
whatever river you think you know by heart and everything else,
take your time, guys, take your time, because there's gonna
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be a log, there's gonna be something, there's gonna be
a booy marker that's not where it's supposed to be.
That's right and everything. I experienced that in Saint Mark's
one time. I wasn't paying attention like I normally do,
and this marker had gotten moved there at the two
curves and coming out that second curve, going out toward
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the lighthouse Stworadline, that booy marker was way out of
the channel, away from the channel, and I was like, man,
I looked down at my machine. I was like, whoa,
hey man, I'm out of the channel here. We're getting
ready to get crazy. It's the oyster bars and everything else.
But this be careful out there because there's so much
debris in the water right now.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Right, and you won't see it because it's so stirred up.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
That's right. You won't see it as floating weather. And
the worst thing that can happen to you is that
you hit a log or something and people were flying
through the boat. And I mean, this is dangerous, it
really is.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Yeah. I remember it was about five or six years ago,
maybe a little bit more than that. I went to
help out some uh some folks on the Swanee River
after a storm, and it got to be about three
o'clock in the morning, three point thirty. I was tired,
and I said, you know, I'm gonna get back to
the ramp in a hurry. I need to go get
some sleep. I mean I was literally falling asleep on
the boat and I got woke up by hitting a
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log and going airborne.
Speaker 5 (19:30):
Wow, So that'll wake you up.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Yeah, that woke me up.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
Yeah, I don't uh, you know, it's it's just a
dangerous place. After these big storms and this time of year,
UH is crazy with because the winds they do so
much blowing things down and and they get in the
rivers and then the rivers bring it out into the
bay and then it floats and goes all over the Look.
What was that song the other thing with Michael Uh?
(19:55):
There was uh one of our We air another show
on one hundred point seven called the Talent Outdoor Show,
been on for over ten years now. Charlie over there,
Charlie and j D with Talon range do the show. Well,
Charlie and I I de sided. I was going to
take Charlie fishing, and you know, we're out there fishing
for trout and there was a floating there. Now, Lie,
(20:18):
there was a floating piece of dock out there that
looked like someone's tiki bar. And we called it the
duck Blind. It hung around for so long that we
started calling it the duck blind. But it was part
of like a little Tiaki hut and had gotten stuck
in the muck out there, and it was, you know,
just kind of there. And we were fishing out over there,
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and I told Charlie, I said, hey, man, I said,
won't you cast that We were caging thunder rigs. You
have fishing for trout. I said, won don't you cast
over there by the old duck blind And he caught
the biggest red fish in his life over there off
that duck blind. So the fish can be caught around
this debris and everything. There was a little bit of
benefit to it, because you know this stuff that draws
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bait and everything. But uh, you know, with it's just
one of those things that we're just saying, be careful,
you know when you're out there traveling around in the water. Now,
I tell you one thing great about today with you
coming in and doing the show, Kenny and Captain Paul,
is that Joel's not here today. That's right, so we
can talk honestly amongst ourselves about his catfish.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Well, he might be able to catch him out of
his yard right now.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
You know that's why. And I tell him maybe that's
why he's not here. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
I didn't think about that, you know. Now, keep an
eye on them all still a river store. You might
see catfish dinners for put up.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
You know what, wouldn't that be some catfish filets and
all He's out there casting them in the front yard
and all, but now we miss them. We wish you
were here and uh and everything. But you know, when
the cat's away, so but UH, tell us more about
what's going on, like seminole go, I tell you what.
Speaker 5 (21:59):
The acci had been biting pretty good, you know. Last week,
last episode we talked about some of those frogs that
they've been work hitting pretty good, and that that bike's continuing,
especially early and late. You know, it's getting so hot
this time of year. You gotta you gotta pick your time.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Now.
Speaker 5 (22:14):
I would have thought typically when you have a tropical
storm or depression or our hurricane comes through, when that
pressure changes the the bass fishing is typically better. It's
typically better. But and the on I guess it was
Friday evening and our Saturday and Sunday they did bite
pretty good, but Monday it was it was a lot slower.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Yeah. And I see out on the Gulf normally pre
system like this, pre front, you know, the official feed,
and I had the opposite. They shut down on me,
you know, and I don't I don't know. I guess
which the right before we had such a high pressure.
Speaker 5 (22:50):
Yeah, and you know how pressure and high.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Pressure and the clients I had on the boat, you know,
because they they've been with me a couple of and
you know, the day before the bite was decent. I mean,
it wasn't great, but it was decent. The next day
just they shut down.
Speaker 5 (23:06):
Which way did your wind come from that day?
Speaker 2 (23:08):
South?
Speaker 3 (23:08):
Sent from the south.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
But it was such a high pressure and I didn't
have to say anything. The guy says, you know what,
we're with this high pressure sitting on us. You know,
we're not going to catch them. We're just gonna have
a good time. We're enjoy ourselves, going to go back
to the dock and have memories. Don't get me wrong.
We caught fish, but it was they didn't They were
not feeding like they were now. I did not go yesterday,
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but I got a report from a good friend of
mine who did go out pre fishing for a tournament,
and he said they whacked him.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
So I got a trip plan for the twenty sixth.
I'm going by moon phase and hopefully I'll be able
to go. But that's when the moon will be up
all day, just about until almost three o'clock in the afternoon,
and I'm gonna give it heck and get out there
and see how any I can put in the boat.
Oh yeah, it's been a while since I've been down
on the coast fish. I've been doing a little freshwater
(23:58):
fishing and catchings miny nice bluegills.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
I want to say, Well, we'll talk about that when
we come back from this break.
Speaker 6 (24:15):
All.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Everyone, welcome back to the Big Man out Door Show.
So before we went to break you mentioned some blue gill.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
Man fly right on that on the fly ride, you
know what on the fly rid. But before that, me
and my friend Bobby did a trip I think I
already talked about on previous show. But in Lake mcsookie, Uh,
there are some giants. There are some giant fish out there. Now,
that's a hard lake to fish because the vegetation's everywhere.
(24:42):
You got you know, you got all kinds of lily
pads everywhere. You got a lot of different grasses. And
there's names for him that I can't even keep track of.
And but I'll tell you this right now. Some of
the biggest blue gill I ever caught my life. And
I've been fishing since I probably in Central Florida. I'm
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from Central Florida. I'd say I started fishing when I
really fishing. Fishing when I was twelve, and I've caught
a lot of fish on the fly rod when you
were talking about fly fishing, not when I was twelve,
but in my twenties, and I caught a lot of
big fish on fly big blue gills, but nothing like
what I call in MIKASOOKI these fish. I got blue gills.
I'm catching pound and a half. Wow, you know, going
(25:25):
on pound and a half pounding three quarters? They're giants.
There's a size there. They're almost covering a paper plate.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Wow, that bill.
Speaker 5 (25:34):
I don't know if I can say it on air,
but I'm just gonna say, breast brim. You gotta hold
them against.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
You, yeah, your chest?
Speaker 5 (25:39):
Yeah, Okay, they so big. You got a hold of
them like that?
Speaker 3 (25:42):
Yeah? Well, and you're right you do, because when I
went all those hands around, that's the first thing I
did was take that shirt off and throw it in
the washing machine because I know Mama won't going to
be happy with me throwing it in the laundry basket
and that smell coming off of it. So but uh,
you know, a good time there fishing for blue gills
in the lake, and there's a lot of that going on.
(26:05):
Blue gills Paul. Don't they pretty much spawn throughout the.
Speaker 5 (26:09):
Summer, don't They'll spawn all the way into.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
September, all the way into September.
Speaker 5 (26:13):
Yes, they've been spawning up there on the lakes, so
I'm sure they're spawning on Lake Tac. When you can
find some brim spawning, they'll they'll spawn typically on the
moon's new moon and full moon. But he don't have
to have the moon from the spawn. My mentor proved
that to me this past couple of weeks. I mean,
he's he found probably forty beds in between the moonfaces.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
And that's something. But there's a lot of good fishing
in the local lakes. You can fish off the shore
and catch fish just as easy as going out on
a boat.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Man.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
There's so many bodies of water around that don't get fished.
In fact, I was I was just looking at one earlier.
I drove by, and I was like, you know, there's
one right there, no one's fishing, and I bet that
thing is loaded up with big fish.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Oh yeah. I posted a picture on our Facebook page.
I guess there's a few weeks ago about a fishing
hole that we came across in the middle of the woods.
We were just out there hiking through the woods, and
then my kids went back there fishing and just slay them.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
So there's stuff out there that you know, get out
and explore, go hiking.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
Yeah, go, but be careful. Just hey, have a good time. Go,
but watch you're where you're walking.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
Yeah, because you got you're living in Florida. Now okay,
well you're in you're in a jungle.
Speaker 5 (27:27):
You got something to bite you.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
There are plenty of things out there that want to
buy you, so the snakes, the gators and everything else.
But normally, normally you're gonna be just fine if you
just pay attention to your environment and you can go
out there and have a good time and catch some fish.
That's right.
Speaker 5 (27:44):
That's what you know, Kenny. As guys, you know, we're
we really pay attention and are observant to any little change,
you know, because you know, you got to read to water.
You've heard them old timers reed to water. Oh yeah,
And you know by doing that when you're in the wool,
as you read the woods. I'm assuming you're reading the woods,
you're aware what your surroundings are and and and that's
(28:07):
one thing I love about fishing. Is that just the
awareness and then making some you know, seeing the changes,
even like this live scope. People think of live scope
as you see the fish, you catch a fish. There's
way more to it than that. I think live scope
is great for freshwater, and I'm sure it's the same
for saltwater. To let me know what I think, the
(28:31):
fish behavior is confirmed, the fish behavior which you can
adjust to that for your customers to catch more fish.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
Oh yeah, that's like when I went up to Lake
Enid and Lake Granada and Mississippi.
Speaker 5 (28:43):
I bet that was awesome.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Yeah, we had we were using livescope, But let me
tell you, you get to see just how picky those
fishes to truth. You know, people think, so, oh, there's
no fish here, and I tell them all the time, Hey,
there's fish here. Even out here on the fire, there's
fish here. They're here. They're just not feeding right now.
I'm not leaving me because I know they're here, and
when it gets right, they're gonna eat. Yeah, you know.
And when you have live scope and you can see that,
(29:07):
or you drop a jig down and they come up
to it and then they turn away from it and
you swap to a different color than they eat it.
Speaker 5 (29:13):
Yeah, you know you learn a lot just by that.
And that that brings up something I want to talk
to you about. A cent. Do you use much Berkeley
power bait? I have the gulp in particular, yes, this
time of the year especially. Do you why this time
of ye why do you find it being better? Because
I started. I had a trip last weekend where he
called from Crappie and I used gulp, little gulp three
(29:35):
inch minutes for the first time, and it was pretty impressive.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
I think the reason this year or this time of
the year is because the fishing's tougher. So other parts
of the year I don't have to use it. The
leatch pretty much anything I put in front of them,
but you know, this time of the year it's tougher.
You got to use every evantage you can, right, So
it's probably catch them just as good as the rest
of the year if I used it, but I don't
have to. So it's I.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Tell you how you know that the scented baits work
is when and we'll talk about brands because we don't
have no brand loyalty in this room. But when gulp
come out with their new pennies and their three inch
and everything. Man, that's all I swore up and down.
That's all I'd ever have hanging underneath that cage and
(30:20):
thunderreg and all. But then they started, you know, pricing
go price. Things go up as a matter of time.
But prices went up, so I started looking around and
seeing what else I could use. Well, next thing, I know,
there's two other brands out there with scented baits, yep,
and I'm like one of them, I think was z
man ze Man put out the man. They got a
(30:44):
five inch white boy. That thing's dangerous.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
And their scent is actually pro cure. Yeah, I don't
know if you've ever used pro c Here the pro
cure you can get it in a bottle and you
can apply it to any soft plastic it or heartbeat.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
Right right, But in different different baites like that that
have this sin in them. Uh, you know, if you can,
if you can buy that, buy it, use it. You
can't go wrong. I mean, you're not hurting yourself by
no means, you know, just giving yourself an added foot up.
Speaker 5 (31:14):
You might say, yeah, I've seen that, you know, in
bass fish and using different scent and and for sure
never really used it for crappy, you know what I mean,
because I figure if I can see, if I can
catch them, you know what I mean. But not just
because I can feel that way, my customer might I
feel like that, you know so. But it was neat
watching those fish. How they would just standing piece of
standing timber. The crappie would get against the timber and
(31:36):
it looked like a knot on the and you had
to make it come right beside it. But you throw
that gul up over there and you can you swim
off the tree and come right it like cow.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
That's pretty impressive. Have you ever heard of fish bites?
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (31:47):
Yeah, I have. They like candy, like candy for fish.
Speaker 5 (31:51):
Oh like little things for called crappy.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
This comes in like the particularly one I'm talking about.
They have new ones now that are shrimp shape and
all that. But it was like a ribbon. It comes
in like a ribbon. You cut pieces off almost like
a stick a bubble gum.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
So it was like gum.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
So I had never used it. And I think this
was two maybe three years ago. I had some people
on the boat and they had me booked for four
days We're scolloping fish and just having a good time,
and the guy says, hey, have you ever heard of
fish bites? I said no. He said, here's forty bucks,
go buy a couple of packs. Keep the change. He said,
let's try him. Okay. So I went to the bait
(32:32):
store that night and I found some and they had
crab flavor, shrimp, flavor, squid, I mean all kinds. So
I got the shrimp and the and the crab, and
we went back out the next day and I said,
I don't know how to I didn't even look it up,
so I don't know how to use these. So I
just hooked it one time under popping cork. Just took
it with a regular jay hook and started popping. We
were catching the fire out of fish, and I was like, well,
(32:56):
this thing just looks it's like I cut like a
two and a half.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
Inch strips like gum. It looks like a stick of gum.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
But it sent it and then inside of whatever that
is that that bait that looks like the gum is
like a fiberglass looking mesh. And let me tell you
you can't. You got to cut it off the hook.
Speaker 5 (33:16):
Wow, you can catch multiple fish on it.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
Yes. Oh yeah. So we were limiting out and I
kept using it, kept using. We were limited on red
fish drout. I'm like, man, this stuff is unreal. So
one of the other local guides asked me, he said, hey,
what are you catching all those fish on? I told
him fish bites, and he said, I know what you're
trying to do to me, and it's not going to work.
(33:39):
He thought I was messing with him. I said, look, man,
I'm telling you. So I took a pack and I
put it on his boat and the next day I
came back to my dock and it was sitting there,
and he texted me. He said, you're not going to
do this to me. I was like, man, I'm serious,
that's really what I'm catching it on.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
Yeah right, I mean, hey, something like that probably probably
could use up there for for catfish and a heartbeat.
Speaker 5 (34:01):
You ain't kid, Oh yeah, I'm looking it up right now.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
Yeah, I'm on it.
Speaker 5 (34:06):
So I know a lot of the Pompino guys use them. Yeah,
it's like a little shit, like like you'd use a
little three inch man, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
It's right, that's it.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
Yep, that's cool.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
Yeah, it's just something I never would have tried. Well,
I didn't even know about it. I know it's big
on the East Coach, but a lot of surf fishermen
use them, but hey, it worn't and it's sent you know.
And the good thing about them too is now I'll
use them to catch pinfish, you know, because it stays
on the hook. You can just put on a little
brim hook and catch pinfish after pinfish with it tipic
(34:40):
And you know you were talking about the Gulf. So
typically this time of the year, I use live pinfish.
Speaker 5 (34:45):
Yeah, and our spins for redfish.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
Well for redfish, correct, But but typically I'll use live pinfish. Well,
this year I have not. I haven't been more productive
with pinfish than I have with gold. And the reason
why is because there's abundance of shrimp, and so I
get the three inch gulp and I'm catching just as
much as I would with the penfish. So why full
with live bait when I can just take go up
(35:10):
out there and catch just as many fish.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
But don't leave that gulp on your hook.
Speaker 5 (35:14):
No, I have one poor crying used to shrink.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
Hey man, old uncle joshus now and I'm I'm gonna
skip away from the subject I was getting ready to
talk about and everything because this is remind me I
was go ask you earlier. You're younger than me. But
back in the day bass fishing, what scent was most popular?
Speaker 2 (35:39):
Let's hold that thought till after this break. Yeah, all right, everyone,
welcome back to the big outdoor shows. So before we
went to break, Dale asked you a question, do you remember?
Speaker 5 (35:56):
That question was, yes, What's what scent do I remember? First?
I'm or fish formula?
Speaker 3 (36:01):
And what was the scent?
Speaker 5 (36:04):
They had? Shad crawlfish mainly, I remember shad, and they
had a shrimp flavor too, I.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
Believe what would do? What would you think was one
of the original scents used for bass fishing WT forty Well,
my uncles say that wasn't one of them, but it
wasn't one I was aware of.
Speaker 6 (36:20):
So I was thinking that, but I wasn't going to
say it.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
And all well, coffee, yeah, a lot of uh.
Speaker 5 (36:28):
I know Strike King now.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
Uses coffee a lot of their coffee. Back in the day,
I knew people that would take a can of coffee
and put their lures in that coffee and just let
them sit there and everything, But coffee was a big
time scent that was used back back and more back
years ago, and everythink so anyhow this is uh.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
That's pretty good.
Speaker 5 (36:50):
And yeah, companies to day right now or make it
put coffee sent in their baits.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
So and that is Somethinghow the different flavors I call
them more of a flavor than I do a but
this is scent. But how that all works. And you
think about in their natural environment, what all scents are
in that water? You know, what are they smelling? You know,
because there's things that are are moving around and carrying on.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
You know.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
One of the biggest deer I know jumping off fishing,
on the hunting and all. But one of the biggest
deer I ever took was a night after I had chili.
So my wife said, you want me to get that
grunt call for you for Christmas? I said no, I said,
just make another batch of chili, all right. But uh,
you know it's it's noises and sense whatever makes it work.
(37:41):
But you can take those scent bait like you were
talking about what's that called again? Uh? Well the gold
you no, the one looked like gum.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
Oh h fish bites.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
Fish bikees for you all listening. You're fishing off the shore,
you get some of that fish bies, you go out
there and put them out there on the bottom. Man,
wait for it, because it's going to happen. You go
catch a big old catfish or any other kind of
fish that may come along there.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
Oh yeah, this time of year, it's hard to get
live bait unless you know, you get out on the boat.
You get out, you know, in deeper water. You know,
it's hard to get shrimp at the bait stores because
the shrimp boats aren't getting them this time of year
because they're out so deep, right, you know, So think
outside the box. Get stuff like your gulps, your fish bites,
and some pro cure or whatever you got to do,
you know, frozen mall it.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
You know, I've been seeing the post on the Facebook
site you've been working on, and uh, we appreciate that
you're doing a great job and everything. But folks, you know,
the to the to the people out there listening, you
got questions. Reach out to these guys. You know, they're
they're charter captains, their captains. This is what they do
for a living. And uh, for me, I'm I'm just
(38:46):
hanging around learning as I go and all boat. These
guys are captains. Just what they do all the time.
And it's not always about you know, charter and a
fishing trip. If you got you want to take your son,
your daughter, uh, and your your your mom, your wife,
whoever it is, your grandparents out fishing and you need
a little help, reach out to him on the Facebook.
Ask him a question of two. I'm sure they'll get
(39:08):
back to you gladly and point you in the right
direction and all. So that's what this show is all about.
We're here to educate and teach people things and learn
things and as a community of people that love the
fish and love the great outdoors and everything. I tell you,
I haven't caught up with Carson yet. Have you to
find out how the tournament?
Speaker 5 (39:29):
I have not yet. I hope he did real well.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
I'm going to give them a ring tomorrow and see
if we can't get him back on the show because
that was a special show. Yeah, it really was having
that young man on the show. And Kenny, you're involved
in all contests. Oh, I seen your posts the other day.
I was like, well, he needs one more thing to
do and they'll have our number twenty four full.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
Yeah. So this time of year it really gets busy
for me because I do track wounded here for people
with my dogs. This year, I've added a thermal drone.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
That's what I was going to bring up. Yeah, tell
us about that matter.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
So the thermal drone is really neat. Now. It does
have its limitations on thick vegetation, thick cover, I should say,
but it does have a place and you know, one
of the things that I like about it is, you know,
sometimes I can just put that thing up and and
find find the animal in just literally seconds. You know.
(40:27):
For instance, I got a call last week and to
track a deer in a high fence and another guy
took some young dogs out there. Wasn't able to locate it.
And it turns out this deer was in the wide open.
It was one hundred and sixty inch buck wow, but
it was in about three foot tall sage grass. Yeah,
you know. And the dogs, this guy's dogs, one of
(40:47):
them he got from a guy in Texas and he
didn't know anything about it. He took it out there
and what ended up happening is the dogs that young
pup started going the right direction. Well, the individual says, hey,
it didn't go that way. I could have seen it.
So the handler, the tracker pulled the dogs off. Well,
the first thing you do is trust your dog, you know, right,
(41:11):
if you call us, let us do our job. You know,
I've been doing this long enough. I've been doing this
over a very long time. I don't let that bother me.
I just tell them, hey, if you could have found
it without me, you'd have your deer. So sit back.
Let me do my job, you know, I do it.
I'm not a jerk about it, but I let them know. Hey,
if nothing else, let's let the dog get it out
of their system. Most time they're going to go find
(41:33):
the deer. But in this case it didn't happen. Well, literally,
fly the drone up and as soon as it got
high enough, bam, there was heat signature, you know. And
and the other thing is, you know, let's say the
deer crosses the property line. Well, you don't have you
you can't get a hold of the people right away.
I could put that drone up and I could see, Hey,
(41:55):
either it's still alive or it's right there. If it's
still alive and it's going to live, there's no point
in going through and bothering someone in late hours of
the night to try to get permission. Sure, So that's
another advantage of it, but another great it's a great
resource for doing deer heard analysis and surveys on your property.
You know, I'm going this weekend to do a deer
(42:19):
herd survey in Georgia. The guy so, he called me.
He said, Look, he said, I've got a bunch of bucks,
a bunch of deer in my peanut fields. He said,
But I'm trying to look at him through my thermal
and everything's too tall. All I can see is the
tips of the races as well. I'll come here. I'll
let you know everything that you have, you know, and
especially in that environment. But you know, like I said,
(42:41):
this is busy time of year myself. Now my son's eighteen.
He's getting involved in tracking wounded deer. So typically I
track two hundred and fifty wounded deer year. Wow, just
just in this area.
Speaker 3 (42:53):
That's huge, you know.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
And about eleven years I think it was eleven years ago,
we started a face book group it's called the Florida
Blood Trailing Network. And then a year after that we
started one called the Georgia Blood Trailing Network. We volunteer.
This is all volunteer, right, So you go on there.
There's a list of trackers. I think at one time
we're at one hundred and seventy trackers. I think now
(43:15):
it's just dwindled down. I think we're about eighty five
trackers in the state of Florida. Right, And if you
need help, you go on there. You there's a list
you can call the people and there's no charge.
Speaker 3 (43:25):
I'll be day wow, that's how about that?
Speaker 5 (43:27):
That way you know your game's not wasted, you know, right,
that's that's awesome.
Speaker 3 (43:31):
And that's what it's all about. It. It's about you know,
that's what you just said it right there. Conservation And
that's what most hunters, the majority that hunt and fish,
most of us out there, are about conservation because we
know that if we don't conserve today, there'll be no tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (43:50):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (43:50):
And uh, we want our grandkids and our great grandkids
to be out there hunting, fishing and telling stories about us.
Speaker 2 (43:58):
Now, those people, this will probably blow your mind. Just
in our listening area right here, how many wounded deer
do you think we're recovered? Just in the listening listening
area right.
Speaker 5 (44:09):
Here last year.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
Yeah, take a guess three eleven eleven yourself. No, no, no, no,
I'm talking other tractors in the area. You know.
Speaker 3 (44:21):
Eleven hundred?
Speaker 5 (44:22):
Yes, now are most is that? Are most of those
like shot with a bow or it could be with a.
Speaker 2 (44:27):
Good what a fact. It's there's more gun than bo
But that's also because there's more gun hunters than the woods.
Speaker 1 (44:33):
Right.
Speaker 2 (44:34):
But if you think about that's eleven hundred deer that
would have wasted.
Speaker 3 (44:38):
Man, that's a lot.
Speaker 2 (44:40):
And you know now now that we have bag limits,
we've had them for I forget how long, seven eight
years now, but that's even more significant because now you're
you're saving another deer from being taken on that bag limit.
Speaker 3 (44:53):
What what amazed me? And crazy thing I researched here
years ago when I was talking to some processors that process,
you know, process the deer. You take them and they
make sausage and everything else. Is how many that they
process a year? Oh yeah, during the season. Yeah, I'm
(45:16):
telling you right now that average processor. Now you think
you got you got Jones, you got Limestone, you got
all these processors around here, and average about three thousand
deer a year per processor you're talking. I think I
did the math. There was like fifteen thousand years.
Speaker 5 (45:37):
I think that'd be a lot of deer taking off
every year.
Speaker 3 (45:39):
But oh no, it's not affecting the population of the deer,
trust me, because there's still out there. In fact, my
friend Bobby's wife had one jump out in front of
her Toyota four Runner and going to work here a
few weeks ago, and went through, went into the windshield
on the driver's side. Okay, used up her hands, her
(46:00):
hands were on steering wheel, and she got glass, Bobby
said when he got to her glass. Everything. Bless her heart,
I mean. And it rolled hit the windshield in front
of her, went in, hit the steering wheel, and then
rolled back over the top and hit the sun roof
of that four Runner. And she's still waiting on her
car to get back from the collision center. Wow, and everything,
(46:23):
and God, bless her soul. She's all right. But I'm
sure I wasn't there and everything, But in talking with
her husband, Bobby is a friend of mine, it was
it was close, and the highway patrol officer told Bobby
this could.
Speaker 2 (46:37):
Have been really really bad. Oh yeah, So deer.
Speaker 3 (46:40):
Are plentiful, They're everywhere and hunters keep hunting.
Speaker 2 (46:44):
Seasons five weeks away, ma'am. There we go, we are,
we're getting close on time. Captain Paul, how can everyone
find you?
Speaker 3 (46:52):
They can?
Speaker 5 (46:52):
They can reach out to me at eight five zero
two six four seven five three four and they can
follow me on Facebook at Captain Paul Tyer Fishing. To
have any questions on anything we discussed or right that
might be able to ask instant message me and love
to answer it all.
Speaker 2 (47:06):
Right, And I'm Captain Kenny Mallins re Elyptic Charters on
all social media phone numbers eight five zero eight three
eight six one zero one and reelypic charters dot com.
And you know, let's give a shout out to Joel
which is all still outlaws jo Alsilla River Store. You
can find him on social media as well. And we
appreciate everyone for tuning in this week and we will
(47:28):
be back next week.
Speaker 1 (47:29):
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