August 17, 2024 • 46 mins
This is the Big Bend Outdoors Show with Joel Baldree
Original Airdate 08.17.24
Today's guests include: Captain Paul Tyre and special guest host Captain Kenny Mullins.
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Original Airdate 08.17.24
Today's guests include: Captain Paul Tyre and special guest host Captain Kenny Mullins.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is the Big Bend Outdoor Show with Joel Baldry.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Today's guest include Captain Paul Tyre.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Here's your special guest host, Captain Kenny Mullins.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Good morning everyone, Welcome to the Big Bend Outdoor Show.
Captain which is not here today. So I am Captain
Kenny Mullins. We have Captain Paul Tyre here.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Yes, sir, I tell you what. I hope Joel calls in.
I'm ready to hear what's coming going on?
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Yeah, So I believe he went to pick up his boat.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Oh man, that big one that goes like seventy miles
an hour.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Yes, oh boy, So he's on his he should be
on his way back picking that up. He's driving the
boat here, so.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Like in the ocean. Yes, okay, the sl service out there.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
I believe he said he was gonna be in the
locks and he'd be able to cool so because gad
Grouper season opens in two weeks.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Yes, that's right.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Art.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Have you been hearing? Are they plenty? I'm out there, Yes, yep,
I've been hearing.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
There's there's good numbers.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Any when you say it opens in two weeks, is
that you know? I like unliking on fw C there's
a scallop seats like different places open? Is that how
it is for that too?
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Well, it's it's the golf water, so all golf gotcha. Yeah,
it's a September one. I believe it's a sixteen day
I'm pulling.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Why don't give you very many days of fish for them?
Do they?
Speaker 1 (01:21):
No?
Speaker 2 (01:22):
It's you know, I don't think there needs to be
a this strict, but you know, I'm not a biologist,
so you know how that goes. Yeah, so but there
it's a two fish bag limit, minimum size of twenty
four inches total length. And yeah, so the season it's
(01:44):
not polling. But anyways, it opens September first. I believe
it's sixteen days. But we'll go over the tides. And
the tides for today is low tie at six thirty
seven am, high at twelve seventeen out two and a
quarter feet of water movement, and Sunday low at seven
(02:06):
twenty eight am and a high at one twelve pm
with just under three feet of water movement. So Sunday
is going to be a little better bite in the golf.
But I honestly have not been out there on the
water since the storm. Yeah, I've just had other stuff
going on, and this time of year starts getting slow
(02:29):
for me.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Yeah, it does get a little bit slower in the summertime.
But I I mean, I tell you what, Praise the Lord.
I've been out having some trips, you know, but it's
just definitely for catching them early and late. For right now.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Yeah, I do have a trip Sunday. Some I guess
you'd say, friends and clients and other businesses ventures that
I have are coming and they want to go fishing.
So but after that, my next trip will be October fifth.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
October fifth, that's what that's when the flats start really
firing up again.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
It will start. Yeah, it won't quite be there yet,
but that'll be the start of it. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
I talked to some buddies that went down around Cape
Samblast night Man. They caught some nice trout and redfish,
some nice ones.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Yeah. See over our way right now. Due to the
amount of water that was dumped by the storm, just
changing things that can get around around Spring Warrior to
pretty much Ekafina River. That whole area is you can't
see more than six inches really. Yeah, it's just super
(03:35):
super dark. A lot of fresh water.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
So then that that gold spoon would come into play
right now if he was going to try to fish
down there with it.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
I don't know, to be honest, the reason I'm saying
that is there's so much fresh water. I don't know
how how much it's moved the fishing around. I know
it's moved the trout around a lot. Right. Do you
remember Pat McGriff that came yes talking on the show.
He he's fished a couple of days this week and
he said the fisher he said he'd been struggling to
find him. So I will say this, if you're going
(04:08):
to go out, I recommend a popping cork with a
shorter leader, with it only being you know, six to
maybe eight ten inches of visibility. You want that shorter
leader so when you pop it and they're coming to
that noise, they can see the bait because they're coming
to the noise. Yeah, you know, so you want that
bait a little closer to that pop So if you
(04:30):
have it down too low, they're gonna come up above
it and not see it.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Yeah, that makes total sense, you know.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
And this time, when it starts getting like this, I
recommend you can use soft plastic even because they're there's
more of a reaction bite. They're they're gonna listen to
that sound, they're gonna come, they're gonna see it, they're
gonna eat. Right. But in that that low visibility, you know,
I like using white chartreuse candy corn colors, you know,
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something they could see. And not only like I said,
not only is there stain, but there's just a lot
of silt in the water from all the winds stirring
it up, so that that'll start settling out. But we're
gonna have to stain for a while because the rivers
and the woods are just so flooded that all that
water has to drain out is draining out of the gulf. Well,
so how's there?
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Yeah, and our lake seminole, it's actually down about about
a foot and a half. And uh, the current the
outflow going out from down as went from average about
nineteen twenty thousand now it's like ten thousand. So theyren't
even an't ain't letting any water coming out over the
out of the gates. Just I totally generate right now,
not full capacity either. So it's we want to we
(05:40):
haven't had a lot of rain above us to come
to come down.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Right, how's the fishing been.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
The fish has been decent, you know, like I said,
especially early and late. He gets so hot, you know,
after midday it's kind of touched out there unless you
don't have your your fan with your bucket of ice
that's melted to cool you off. But there is there
is a flipping bike going on up there where you're
actually punch grass. That's that's that'll be starting and I
think you'd be getting better and better as we go
into the fall. But right now it's been top water
(06:06):
early and then throwing plastic worms and and backing off
and finding some muscle beds and fishing those shell beds.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Got you what, what's the predominant bite?
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Uh, the prominent, the funnest bite is top water right now. Yeah,
now we had uh I was out this past Tuesday
and man had some explosive bites but they just they
just missed it. But boy, I tell you what, I'm
looking forward to getting out there this weekend and uh
doing some fishing. Got some folks coming in.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Now, are you still throwing frogs?
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Yes, definitely throwing frogs right now up in the cover
and throwing up buzz baits and prop baits around the
edges of the grass got you and that's been working
pretty good.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Yeah, that's like I said, I haven't bass fishing a
long time, but you know, hopefully I'll get to take
my son here soon, my oldest he's he's been out
and now lately he's uh had a few health issues
going on, and so get him healed up and get
him back out on the water. So I know he's
itching to go.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Yeah, I'm looking forward to. I want to. I want
to take him up there. When when that bite's fun,
you know this, you know, starting to fall from about
October all the way into June. That's when Lake Seminole
is really good, you know what I mean. And right
now it's it's they're there. We're having good days now,
but there's a little more hit and miss because the
water temperature is so hot. Right, But they're going to
(07:27):
start they'll start that fall feed. It's it'll it'll usually
happens about the first week or two of September. I
don't know if it's going to happen even earlier this year.
I'm seeing some how the bait's acting. It could be
a little bit earlier. I'm kind of waiting to see.
And that's where time on the water, you've got to
be out there to see the change, you know.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Oh yeah, yeah. Now, I don't know if it's like
this on the lake, but typically we can we oh oh,
did they'll get you?
Speaker 3 (07:56):
No, he didn't.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
So typically our fish all though a very similar pattern
year to year. So they may be you know, four
or five hundred yards away or maybe even a half mile,
but they're in the same general area, same general depth,
the same time each year. Right, Is it like that
on the lakes?
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Yes, you know, typically when you're lake fishing, you know,
you'll have a migration to places like Lake Talc. When
we have a lot of creek channels, actually define creek channels.
They'll they'll the shadow start following those creek channels back
to the backs of the creeks and you can that's
more of a fall bite. But on Lake Seminole you
got drains and ditches through the grass, and they'll do
(08:37):
the same thing and they'll start to kind of move
it into the creek. Right now, I'm finding most of
most of the bait on the middle section of the lake,
and there's big schools of shad, but they're they're staying
around the grass. Our grass has not come up thick
like it usually does this time of year because it
was so muddy this spring. But it's growing fast and
it's got the fish spread out a little bit. But
(08:58):
when you find the right cover and the baits in it,
you can get some bites.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Well, let me ask you this. Let's say you fish
Creek X last year and you caught a lot of fish.
You're gonna go, Will they typically be in Creek X this?
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Yeah, yes, typically, you know, like the same like respawning areas.
They usually spawned the same areas every year and same
way with the fall. But on Iur Lake you have
on Lake Seminole, it's a lot about the grass, how
the grass is setting up, how it's growing.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Yeah, and we're dealing with that on the Gulf too.
We talked about a lot of our area last year
with the hurricane and all the other storms that we had,
the water was so dark that we lost grass. Yeah,
it just didn't have sun light to grow and some
of that was starting to come back. Well, now we're
back in the same predicament.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
We'll see how long this, yeah takes, But yeah, how
long is you know, if that water stays dingy like
you're talking about, and that sun doesn't get through, it
doesn't definitely doesn't grow grow it fast.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
No, And like I said, it was just starting to
come back, and I figured it would be probably two
and a half three maybe two to three years before
it was back the way it was. Well, now this
is just going to push that back even more.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Yeah, yep, So what have you have you seen this
happen in the past? Yes, what do the fish do?
Do they move to?
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (10:17):
Or do they they do they move further down the gulfer?
Speaker 2 (10:21):
What do they do?
Speaker 3 (10:22):
They move out?
Speaker 2 (10:23):
So last year what ended up happening. We when when
the storms came, we got all that rain, even before
the hurricane. We got a ton of rain, and the
water is like it is now, just super dark, a
lot of fresh water, and we went we went a
couple of weeks, maybe three weeks, where we just struggling
(10:43):
to catch a fish. And I just kept moving, moving, moving,
and I finally started working that stained line from from
where it went from no visibility and I went all
the way to clear and I finally found the fish
somewhere in between, and they were all stacked up. Yeah,
it was like every fish for miles was there. Yeah,
you know. So, and he was able to ride that
for a while. Oh, I was able to ride it
(11:04):
for two and a half three months.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Wow, that's incredible.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
So I'm hoping that's the case. Now I'm going to
try to get out there Saturday, and I have to
fish on Sunday, so that's where I'm going to start.
The thing is that that transition area is right there
where everyone is scolloping this year, where last year they weren't.
Oh boy, so that that could be a game changer,
you know that. But I will say the further out
(11:30):
you go away from those the shorelines in the creeks,
the clear of the water gets. So maybe you'll have
to look for a transition there and see if maybe
they're staged up right there.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Yeah, Because you know, speaking of Scots, has that season
been really good this year?
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Oh, it's been really good. And we'll touch on that
when we come back from this break. All right, everyone,
Welcome back from the break. Captain Paul. You asked me
a question about scollop see and how it's been going
before we went to the break. It has been good
(12:06):
this year. It's been really good. Actually, there's been a
lot of stuff on social media, people saying that they
were small, there wasn't many. Not the case.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
You've been finding them.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Oh, it's been It's been great because probably the best
year I've seen in eight years.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Wow, that's awesome. Now, will you offer fishing trips and
when you get hot and go scolfing?
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Yes, yes, yes we do that. That's been down this year.
Scolloping as a whole has been down, and I don't
know exactly why. I believe it has a little bit
do with a lot to do with being an election year,
you know, and a combination of that in the economy.
You know, everyone seems to start tightening up on election year. Yeah, yeah,
(12:50):
we see it all the time. I'm sure you've seen
it over the years.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
But overall, like I said, it's been really really good.
In fact, I just I took a guy out a
couple of weeks ago who had never been before. It
was him and him and his wife, and they are
originally from Delaware, and he has a YouTube channel and
he contacted me said, hey, I've never been scolloping. You
(13:16):
know what do we do? And I told him he said,
do you mind if I film? I said not at all.
So he came out and at first he was struggling.
He's like, you know, what do I look for? I said,
look for a Ruffles potato chip with blue eyes all
the way around. It kind of chuckled and uh. He
got down there and they found one. He's like, you
were right, it looks like a Ruffles potato chip with
(13:37):
blue eyes. So he when we got back to the
dock horse, they didn't know how to clean them. They
didn't even they didn't even know how to really dive down.
I mean we started out once spot six feet deep
because they were so thick. I mean you could swim
down and pick up ten at a time. Wow, if
you could hold your breath. And they were struggling to
get down that deep. So I said, look, we can
(13:59):
go to another spot with their shallow and there's plenty
of them. You'll get a limit. And uh, so we
went to the shallow spot and sure enough they they
loaded up and we were out about two and a
half hours. They got their limit, and uh, it would
have been a lot quicker, but that was our first time.
So yeah, you know, it takes time to get an
eye for him, and we went back to the dock
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and told them what we'd clean them for him because
they were kind of on the little time constraint, and
uh so my wife and I we cleaned them. They
filmed it all well, then they took them to steam.
Hatchie had a restaurant cook him and then he took
some home and cooked them. It was all on his
YouTube channel, which is for First State Fishing. Right Well,
(14:40):
I didn't know he has like six hundred and fifty
thousand subscribers, and uh so the next thing I know,
everyone says, man, I've seen you on YouTube.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
Seen.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Yeah, I didn't even I didn't even put two and
two together right away. And then I remembered and I looked.
I'm like, wow, this guy's got six hundred and fifty
thousand subscribers. And if you ever get a chance, you know,
watch the content. I mean, great video editing it was.
But you know, that's the kind of stuff we need
to attract people of our area because you know, like
I said that it's down, it's been down the last
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couple of years, but the sculpts are there now.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
Now you saying the water is dingy, so in the
how to find cleaner, clearer water.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
So it's clear where where we've been scalping, where I've
been fishing. So the Keaton Beach area, if you go
south of Keaton Beach, like towards Steam Hatchie, From Keaton
Beach to Steam Hatchie, there's a creek about every mile
three quarters a mile. Maybe you go north like you
(15:39):
get around Spring Warrior north or in west, because that's
where the bend is. Right through there, you have a
creek about every eighth of a mile. So that's a
lot of freshwater.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Done, a lot of fresh water.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
So I typically don't go south this time of year
because it is so clear and there's so many people
down their scalping. You know that those fish get out
in eight to ten feet of water, where I could
run north, north and northwest and fishing four feet of
water right and have no one around me, right, because
everyone's scooping down that way right. Well, then you also
(16:15):
have everyone fishing the same areas out in eight ten
feet of water, so I avoid them and I run,
you know, twelve to fifteen miles and I'm fishing in
three and a half four feet of water right right,
But obviously that's going to be out of play. But
the fishing, it's hit and miss this time. Like you said,
it gets hot. But the biggest thing on the golf
is you have to fish the tides.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
Yes, that's right.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
And if the tides is at one o'clock, two o'clock
in the afternoon and it's ninety five degrees outside, you've
got to be fishing.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Yeah. Well, if you have the tide with the morning
that seemed better.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Right, Oh yeah, yeah. And another thing this time of year,
even if you have the tide in the evening, it
gets so hot that those fish are just lethargic, right right,
you know, so you really need to catch that early
morning bite or you're gonna have to fish like right
at dark, you know, right as the sun's setting on
into dark a little bit.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
Yeah, that's what we're noticing too. For your hot water bite,
there's you know, you can use livescope and catch fish
during the you know, when the when the sun's up
in the middle part of the day. But it's it's
hot though, it's brutal.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Yeah, it's I don't want to be out there anymore
on in that heat. I've actually taken off, like I said,
the next six weeks. I've blocked out my calendar. If
someone called me, I'd take them, but I decided to
take some time for the family. It's just getting so hot,
and like I said, my son's having some health issues
going on that we're trying to get straightened out. So
(17:44):
I need to take time with him. And uh, you know,
family's very important.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
Yeah, that comes first for sure.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Yeah. So, like like we talked about before, getting into Octobers,
when that red fish bite is really going to start
turning on. So I'll get back to fishing about mid September,
you know, going out there about every day, and I'll
fish hard, and that the red we call it red
October because about mid October, the red fish are just
(18:15):
fired up. You know, I've been catching them all the
time all summer long. But I don't know now, you know,
I'm gonna get back out there, like I said, probably Saturday,
but I know I'm not going to catch where I was.
All right, I'm gonna have to search around a little bit.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
I have to hunt for them.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Oh yeah, I'll find them.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
Yeah, and you know for me, for for bass fish.
And that's the funnest part of it is trying to
find them, you know what I mean? Oh yeah, A
lot of times I find them. Okay, I know what
these are doing. Let's go somewhere else. It over again.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Or you find them and stay on them and start
swapping out baits, swapping out lures and see, hey, what
what are they gonna eat? What are they not going
to eat?
Speaker 1 (18:49):
Well?
Speaker 2 (18:49):
How are they going to read? Have fun doing that?
Speaker 3 (18:52):
That's right? Absolutely yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Pat McGriff has this theory that that you have five
lures that are gonna work that day, five different colors.
So if you and and one out of the five
is going to catch a big fish. So he said,
you get a five trout limit, you have five colors.
You catch more than more than two on a color,
you better swap it or you might miss that big fish.
(19:17):
Pretty good. I don't I haven't tested that theory out,
but this sounds good. But I I like that. My
favorite time is falling winter. Yeah, everyone's in the woods hunting. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
The lake seemed to be more opened on it. Oh yeah,
and down there on the coast, oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Which I'll be busy out tracking deer and wounded deer
for people. But you know, I love fishing that time
of year.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
Yeah, me too. Yeah, I love I'm ready for them
cool mornings.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Speaking of cool mornings, you know, it's uh, we're starting
to see that humidity lighting up a little bit.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
I was noticing that the last couple of days.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Yeah, getting a little bit cooler in the mornings, and
it's just it's its bite.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Me.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
I'm ready. I'm ready for those cool mornings. Yeah, me too.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
I tell you what it there's nothing I like that.
I like that sweatshirt weather.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Oh yeah, until it gets too cold, then I'll complain.
I'm be ready for summertime. But yeah, it's I'm just
ready for that fall bite.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
Yeah, for sure. And you know, you can have good
days this time, you're especially on the on the fresh water,
you can. But you just have to deal with the
heat and if you're prepared for it and cover up,
you know what I mean. Have to make sure you're
wearing sunblock right now. You know, I've I've I'm a
big I had a what's the people that skin doctors?
What do they call dermatology? Dermatologists go and me, he said, man,
(20:44):
He goes, boy, I see you use some block and
my face was covered with it. He goes, you put
it on pretty thick. I said, yes, sir, I'm trying
to protect guys. I'm a dermatologist, and that's smart. Yeah,
they always do the back of your hands. I wear
gloves to keep the back of my hands.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Yeah, I need to. It seems like I buy them and.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
They they last about me about a month and a half. Well,
my problem is they a good pair yet.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
My problem is they're like socks. My dryer likes eating them.
They go into the they go into the washing. I
don't see where they go. I might have a red
one and a blue one, and then the next day
I have a white and a pink and I'm like, yeah,
that's right. And then and then they go to the
laundry and I might have the right hand this time,
and then they'll come back. I'll have the left hand.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
Right, that's right, that's right.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
But yeah, the the gloves buffs.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
Big hats and yeah, I started wearing a Sunday afternoon hat.
Have you heard of them? I have man older ones
that is a you know, you know those bigger hats.
I had hot ones I guess it's made out of
and those were hot, and I didn't really like them.
I put that thing on. I'm like, my gosh, it's
like putting an air condition on your head. It's amazing. The difference,
(21:55):
really really amazing how much difference it is.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
I've had people come on the boat, you know, wearing those,
and I keep asking.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
What goofy? But they're man, I don't care about how
how it looks, you know, if because you know what,
you know, I fished some tournaments too, and if I
had a tournament earlier this year, Man that if you
if you're not feeling good or you can't concentrate, you're
you're gonna miss fish, right, and being able to you know,
just stay cool and those kind of extreme conditions makes
(22:24):
a big difference.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Oh yeah, yeah. And that's like out scooping. I don't
have a top on my boat because everyone will hook
it when they cast, right, So when we're out scoping,
I'll put a patio umbrella up and and it makes
a world of difference.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. I have two boats that you
have a bass boat and I have my my ponting boat,
and I have you know, the beach umbrellas. I have
the poles. I can have them around the boats. I
can just put those up and cock them, and I
mainly started using that so I could drift across the
flats without just the wind, without using my trollo motor.
But it's I could be a little more stealthy. That's
the main reason for art. But the byprod is casting
(22:58):
that shade up and I can see that are in
the water too.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Yeah, so we typically drift. Probably ninety percent of the year,
we're drifting just covering water, and uh, the only time
we really don't is when it gets wintertime. We get
back in those creeks and yeah, you know you'll want
to work a trollo motor in those creeks for two reasons.
One is obviously not spook as fish because you're in
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a confined area. But the main reason is there there's
so many other people in some of these creeks that
you don't want to run an out bore by them
right and blow the fish out or mess them up,
so you just ease around. And then there's a third
reason over there towards joel In area, and that's all
the rocks. You definitely don't want to put your out
board down and run there. You better just put that
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trollo motor down and ease your way around, right, So
we're going to go to break. When we come back,
I believe Joel's gonna call in all right, so hearing
from him, we'll get back with you all in just
a few All right, everyone, welcome back to the Big
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Ben Outdoor Show, and we have Captain Joel Baldry on
the phone. How are you doing, Joel?
Speaker 1 (24:12):
I'm doing good man. What y'all got going on?
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Oh we're sitting here talking about you out catfishing today.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
I figured y'all would be. I mean, that's about all y'all.
I got to give somebody else a break because you know,
y'all talk about everybody, and I really need to talk
about yourselves. He really catches all the catfish and quit
lying to people.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
We've been talking about our so and talking about how
we catch quality trophy fish.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Man. I hope, I hope y'all got order boots on.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
So you know what you got going on today?
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Man? I am heading right now. I just got through
with the closing on the store and uh, I'm heading
right now to pick up my airboat. We're gonna try
to do a little bit of mullet fishing before we
leave out in the morning. In the morning, we're leaving Saturday,
and I mean correct, So going to Jeeper to pick
up the big boat.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
Oh, I got you. I thought you were already on
your way to pick it up.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Well we well we was going that way, but I
run into uh, some other stuff. You know how you
and business for yourself, everything changes plans. Oh yeah, So
I got that, took care of him. Now my airboat
it was getting worked on, and now we're heading over
here to Brantford, Florida to pick it up at Massive Marine.
He does a real good job on building boats and stuff.
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So if anybody needing some airboat work done, he's the
man to call.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
I got you.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
He builds them from the ground up.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
So we were talking earlier about how Captain Paul uses
umbrellas for shade but also to push him around the lake.
So do you get some umbrellas installed to push that
airboat around.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
I tell you it's good to have him on there anyway,
because when that motor goes down, you you ain't doing
nothing with that cave because it is like a paras
heel itself. Wherever that, wherever that, wherever that winds taking here,
wherever that winds going up the way. There you go
unless you got your pyr poles. Now.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
So, Joel, is the water pretty clear over your way?
Speaker 1 (26:05):
No, Actually it's murky. I went out last night and
we was scouting for some gator hunts men, Tanner and Jerry.
We went out last night in his air boat and
I went back east to the Ostilla towards Dcafini and
went in a bunch of them creeks right there, and
uh man, it's just like tea right now. It's actually
it's darker than it was a week ago. I mean
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it's you know, you after a storm, it wasn't that bad,
but it's like it pushed you know, all the water
coming from north, the fresh water you had, the rain
water through the woods. I reckon it's catching up. But
the river still ain't that high, but it's it's got
it messed up a little bit.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
Yeah. I know, on my way up here, we crossed
over the Oscilla and it was it looked like it
was way up.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
So yeah, it's definitely up. And you know, we're gonna
have some negative tides starting Sunday. I think eight o'clock
it's gonna be like a point five. And we got
a you know, a group going out Sunday and Monday.
Tanner's out one tonight I think, and uh, Friday night,
if I'm not mistaken. But we got a bunch of
them lined up. Man, we've seen we didn't see it before.
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Five good gators last night. But there again, that tide
was almost back in, you know. So when that tide
starts coming up in that hostility, you'll swear up. Now
there's no gators there. But when that tide is on
the negative, get that little like Christmas tree lights out there,
their eyes lit up.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
Oh yeah, I'm much rather. I'd much rather hunt a
low tide on the coast.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Well, no doubt, any day of the weekend. A lot
of people just don't know them jokers is out there.
But they'll be a mile off shore up there. I mean,
they'll go out there moving with the mullet. When the
mullet pull pull out with the tide's where them gators
go when they come back in. The gators come back in,
and it's always good to catch them out on the
mouth laps.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Now they ain't got nowhere to go from you then, Yeah,
the biggest one I ever took was right there at
Rock Island on the actually almost to the outside of
Rock Island. And when we got it back and started
cleaning it, there was there was over seventy stingray barbs
and it's yells.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
I believe it. Uh. You know we've got them with
armadilla shells stuck in their teeth. Uh, you know, turtle shells.
It's crazy. All the stuff they eat. You know that
you wouldn't think, but then being out here that far
off the coast, you know, that just blows your mind.
You know how far they traveling stuff at night? And
and but I said, in the main their main course
meal out there is mullet, and this time of the
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year the mullet was unreal. Last night they were jumping
in the boat and I was having a fit. I
didn't have no nets with me. How you doing do it?
Good man?
Speaker 3 (28:32):
I tell you what, I've been seeing some giant gators
up on.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
I know, man, I wish we could get some tags
over there. You know, people need to let people know.
Anybody listening right here, if y'all got some tags. And
you know, I ain't sure about the you know, gator hunting,
and you know it ain't got too much experience. You
need to give one of us a call. We'd be
glad to take y'all and put y'all on a gator
safely and enjoy your time doing it. So it's hard
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to get a tag.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
So what is your preferred method of teach?
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Do you do?
Speaker 2 (29:01):
You like boat? Do you like fishing rod? Do you
like bait? What?
Speaker 1 (29:05):
Man? Honestly, honestly, the bait's the easiest way, even the
bow really, I mean, but I like enjoy the harpen
a lot. No Indian style way, Yeah, you know, and
from one and once you got them harpoon, man, you
know that that head ain't coming out, so you could
pretty much if you get in a buying right there
or something starts going south, you can just let go
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of that rope and you can follow that blue around,
regroup and then come back to it. Oh yeah, you know,
you pretty much got everything throwing the Once we get
you know, harpen, sometimes we put it if he's a
real big when we'll put two harpoons in him and
that way we you know, we we can handle him
both ways, kind of keep him balance when we pull
him up to use the bangstick. So that's a lot
to it. Yeah, and can get hurt.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
Yeah, even if I use like a snatchuck or something.
When I get him close, I'm putting on harpoon or
two in them.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Yeah, And that's a lot of times I've used a
fishing pole. But you know that a lot of people
like using that hand line would a big trouble on it,
you know. And that's pretty much you could take the
fight out of them that way too, because when you
hook them with that truck, smash it on. Making them
up set with that fishing pole, you can kind of
just get it in their skin and they'll just kind
of you know, you could pull it or to them really,
but if you snatch on that thing, you'll make them
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grove a zerk and break your line and everything else.
So I like getting them with that hand line and
they'll go to that death row and wrap themselves up.
Then you pretty much got all the work done.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Oh yeah. And I tell everyone that if we're if
we are using a fishing pole with a with a
big trouble hook, it's not to try to reel them
in with it. It's to get a hook in them,
let them get to the bottom, get up there to them,
get another hand line in them. A big trouble hand line.
You know, I don't try to someone you know, you
try to horse them with a fishing rod, and you're
asking to lose that getor.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
Oh yeah, and you'll lose your fishing pole half your
fishing pole. And sometimes you're real too. Uh I've done
that the hard way.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Oh yeah, yeah, So this is how you get it
sided My thinking. Yeah, this is a happening time of
the year, you know, the dog days of summer going
to start winding down. Got gator season come in, got
deer season a month away. It's and we got some
prime fishing and about another six to eight weeks going
to start popping off.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
Yeah, I know, man, I think I'm hoping it's a
good year. We got to keep these hurricanes away, you know,
we got to have some you know, good water. The
water was clearing back up. It's still clear west. I
went west last night, just ride looking from Mullet, and
I didn't see as many west as I did at
Eastrup there, but the water was a lot clearer towards
Saint Mark's.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Yeah, and we were talking about it earlier. You get
south of Keaton and the water starts clearing up a
lot going towards Steahatchie.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
Oh yeah, like I said, they ain't got that many
creeks and stuff running out over there. And you know,
I'm surprised at that though, even the water running out
the woods, because they got a lot more rain, you know,
that way than we did. Really. Oh yeah, we got
go ahead.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
I was saying, we got hammered at my house, my area,
and on our Facebook page I posted a picture of
our hunting club. You know that just riding down the
main road, the water is almost over your hood of
your truck and that's all gonna flow out the Gulf.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
At one point in time. That's why our rivers is
just now coming up to i Silla. It just took
it a little time to get here because you know,
at our house or self, we probably didn't get seven
maybe eight inches of rain from that storm. Yeah, I
mean the ditches wasn't then filled up the same day,
you know what I mean, It wasn't It wasn't that bad.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
Yeah, it's all that stuff coming down from Georgia, which,
like I said, we got a lot in Perry and
but when it hit Land and it got up there
around Live Oak and it's started heading into Georgia, the
Okey Finocchi Swamp, it just started creeping. And you probably
remember when we're doing that storm clean up. I believe
they said for every inch of rain in the ok Finocchi, right,
it would right caused that river to rise afoot right.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
I was going. I didn't mean to change the subjects
so quick, but I was seeing earlier where Shannon Millanor
was posting talking about our channel and stuff. Have y'all
talked about it any.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
We haven't yet. So Shannon and I went out and
we did kind of a survey on our channel because
you know, the county is doing some dredging later on
this year, and so we know that the main channel
going out of Keaton needs some attention. There's there's two
very shallow areas, and once you start going out, especially
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at a negative time, you can get in trouble fast
in a big boat. But even at a we when
we did our survey, it was a plus one point
of I think it was one point four to one
point six and at low and at those two spots
it was only thirty six around thirty six thirty eight
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inches deep. Well, you know you drop another foot and
a half and most boats aren't aren't making it out
of that, especially a big boat, right, you know. And
then on top of that, we did surveys of our
channel markers. The polls that are are literally rotten, you know,
they're just so rusty they're about to break. And then
the biggest concern, and in my eyes, is that lighted
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booie mark or fourteen. They've replaced it. I don't know
four or five times. But you know, us as captains,
we know because we went through to the C school
and we know that when it comes to navigational lights,
you should be able to head straight towards the light
and safely, safely make it through that channel without any
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worries of hitting anything. Well, you remove one of those
lights and you don't know what. Guess what's gonna happen.
You're gonna miss the channel, You're gonna run around, you
might hit another channel marker that's not lighted. That's a
very dangerous situation.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Yep. So they got they got I highly unacceptable. All
these channel markers need to be let up somewhere or another.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Oh yeah, And so we're trying to get that and
we've been making contact, trying to make contact the Coast Guard,
and I haven't gotten any results. Joel, I hate to
cut it short, but we're about to have to go
to break. I don't know if you want to stick
around or if you know you have something you gotta do.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
Yeah, I can stick around for a little bit. I'm
in this line right here. Boy, anybody that wants the
test rapacious, I need to fit in this a very
primary line.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
All righty, Well, we'll get back to this right after
this break. All right, everyone, welcome back to the Big
Bit Outdoors Show. Before we went to break, we were
talking to Joel about the stuff I had going on,
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Shannon Millanora surveying the channel markers and and Joel. So
what's been going on is we have reached out to
the county administrator to try to get help with organizing this.
So maybe they can piggyback off of the dredge that's
going to be in the county waterways and get those
two low spots dredged. Yeah, because they're going to be
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dredging County Waterways and Keaton, Cedar Island, Dark Island, parts
of Decal and parts of steam Hatchie.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
And it would only make sense for them to do
it at the same time out they're wanted to be
less money and it'd be done quick instead of having
to wait another year, two or three for them to
come up with all their plans. Man, they got to
do something about this stuff has been in effect for
what seven or eight years now, They've.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
Had the money since twenty.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
Oh yeah, So you know what I mean, that's overdue
and there's no reason it shouldn't be done because it's
like Shannon said, that's that you know, if we've lost
the meal, we've lost all the stuff or revenue you know,
coming from this this uh from our county, you know,
so what better way is to have our canals and
everything dredged right where people would be happy to come
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down there and put in because they're spending money, they're
coming from Georgia, they're coming from you know, all over
the country just to come down there and scollop and
fish and whatever, because we got the best fishing in
the country right here in the Big ben So they
need to get it done, man. They should understand that
that's you know, that's what we got to depend on
for a living.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
Right, and not right, and not just that, but the
safety concerns, you know, that that is huge. Someone someone
could end up seriously injured or a fatality.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
Yeah, I mean they people hit them all the time
on accident. Imagine. You know, it's gonna if it's win,
you know, so they need to do something about it.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
Yeah. So I spoke with Shannon this morning and we
are continuing to push this, and we've also spoke with
Victor Blanco, which is our Extension Office representative, and he's
reached out to the Coast Guard trying to get some support.
And you know, we're kind of hitting some roadblocks, so
we're having to go through some different avenues, but we
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are definitely staying on top of it.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
Yeah, man, you got to. If not, it won't nothing
never get done about it. You've got to have people
like you, you know, keep pushing them and pushing them,
and soon, sooner or later, we'll get another attention. You know,
if we got to, we'll go stand up on the
core steps for at the Captain the capital right there,
you know, holder signs up.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
Well, you know, like you said, Jold, well, you know,
like you said, we in Perry, we've lost two mills,
you know, and then that has had a trickle down effect,
not only in Perry, but surrounding counties. As these loggers
they start slowing down, the need for timber has reduced,
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so there's jobs being lost there, you know, and people.
You know, one of my good friends, he just moved
to Texas to be able to get a job at
another meal, you know. And then that's just trickling down.
I mean I can tell you right now of eight
or ten guides that have quit guiding full time and
gotten other jobs because it's all trickled down.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
Yeah. Well, you know, it's a bad time. You know.
We we got a lot of stuff going on in
this country right down that that shouldn't be going on.
But hopefully all that's going to change in November to
make sure everybody votes, because everybody's vote does count, that's right.
So that's what we got. We got to get everything.
And it's just like our you know kind of commissioners,
we got to get them. They don't want to be
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on the same page. We got to get someone in
there that wants to be on the same page that
that is for the people and helping people out, you know,
And that's what they understand that just like a lot
of them, you know, they say what they want to
that mudbogs. That mudbigs brings a lot of money to
this county restaurants and everything else. So you know, fish
is the same way for us, and we ain't got
And that's why Stin Hatchie does so great, honestly, I
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think is you know, they got that deep river and
they got so much more to do down there, and
it's just you know, that's the way. That's the way
Keeaton Beach and everywhere everywhere else can be the same way.
You know, you'll get more people in that area because
eventually they're going to run out of room and sting
Ashy the ain't already got a room.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
Yeah, and I'll tell you probably remember Joel spend I
don't know, fifteen years ago now we're close to it.
When I was a manager at when Dixie and Perry,
and I can tell you from the sales trends when
a mudball came, we made a lot of money. When
and when it was scollop season, we made a lot
of money. When it was hunting season, we made a
lot of money. So you know that tells you right
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there that our economy in the Big ben region really
relies on hunting and fishing and outdoors activities, you know.
And it's it's not just that. I mean, like even
the campgrounds, you know, r ving it's down in our
area right now. I have a friend that owns a
I actually I have two friends that own campgrounds. They're
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they they're slower right now than they have been in
the last ten years.
Speaker 1 (40:33):
Yeah, they man, I'm telling you, it's just it's a
bad time. Our economy is bad, you know. It's just
everything's trickling down on everybody. So it's gonna get better day.
I mean, it is, it really is. We just got
to pray for it to happen. And it's gonna happen, though.
We just got to get everybody on the same page.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
All that's right. And it's not just it's not just
our industry or our area. Because I was speaking with
a good friend of mine who is a rather a
large farmer, and he told me, he said, Kenny, it's
a it's it's rough. He said, you know, how can
I keep farming when I'm losing a million dollars a year?
You know, he said, it has me second second guessing,
you know, my my life choices. He said, uh, And
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it's not just me. It's every farmer in South Georgia.
So and that's our business. You know, a lot of
our businesses from South.
Speaker 1 (41:26):
Georgia farmers, no doubt.
Speaker 2 (41:28):
And by what I'm saying about farmers, it's not just
the farmers, it's the it's the guys who work on
the tractors that sell the tractors, the the chemicals, the seed.
I mean, our our region, the Big Bend to Florida
and South Georgia relies on agricultural outdoors. I mean, and
when that's down, it hurts.
Speaker 1 (41:47):
Everyone, right, no doubt, no doubt. I totally agree. Man. Well,
like I said, we'll get it all straightened out when
y'all just know, we got to have people stay on them.
And that's what it takes. It out to the right people.
As anybody tried reaching out to Governor de Santaes over.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
It, we haven't yet. I did reach out to Representative
Showf's office, and we are reaching out to Corey Simon's
and you know, we're just working our way up the ladder,
following the proper line of communication.
Speaker 1 (42:20):
That's right, that's right. Sometimes you just got to go
over their heads and gonna haven ther responses thing.
Speaker 2 (42:25):
Oh yeah, trust me, it's coming. Well, Joel, we have
a few minutes left. Would you like to tell everyone
how they can get ahold of you?
Speaker 1 (42:34):
Yeah? Man, you can look me up on day Our's
Ostilla River Store on Facebook, or you can look me
up at Ostill Outlaws Charters on Facebook. Myself one numbers
eight five six seven. We still got some available gator
hunts lyft, so get in contact with me me or
Tanner with swoot Freak Outfitters and we'll see what we did.
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Put y'all on a big gator already.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
Oh well, we appreciate you calling in. And uh, I
won't be here next week. I'm not sure if you
will be.
Speaker 1 (43:05):
Oh yeah, I'll be there. I'll be there. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:08):
I got to go up to Pennsylvania for another deer
tracking seminar, but uh, you know, speaking of that, I
want to bring this up real quick. I shared a
picture on our Facebook page on the Big Big Outdoors
of a deer that I tracked last week at a
high fence in Jennings, Florida. That's a big one joe
two hundred and sixty two hundred and sixty eight and
one eighth inches velvet.
Speaker 1 (43:29):
But that was Aten there.
Speaker 2 (43:33):
Oh yeah, let me tell you what. You don't realize
what two hundred and sixty eight inch deer is until
you're holding it in your hands.
Speaker 1 (43:40):
I know, I'm mad. And that was pretty crazy right there.
And he's still in velvet, wasn't he?
Speaker 2 (43:44):
He was still in velvet.
Speaker 1 (43:46):
He probably had a little bit more room to gray.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
Oh yeah, yeah, it was a giant.
Speaker 1 (43:52):
Well.
Speaker 2 (43:53):
Uh, we're running out of time, so you know, it
was good to good to hear from you. And you know,
I'll try to call in next week when I'm up
there in Pennsylvania, but we're gonna we're gonna have to
wrap things up here.
Speaker 1 (44:07):
I feel good, Captain Paul. I'll let you brother. I
see you next Thursday.
Speaker 3 (44:12):
See you next thursday.
Speaker 2 (44:13):
Joe all Hi, thank you, Joe.
Speaker 1 (44:14):
Yeah, I'll take care bye.
Speaker 2 (44:17):
All right, Captain Paul. How can everyone get ahold of you?
Speaker 1 (44:20):
Man?
Speaker 3 (44:20):
They can give me a call at eight five zero
two six four seven five three four, or they can
follow me on Facebook at Captain Paul Tire Fishing.
Speaker 2 (44:28):
And I am Captain Kenny Mullins. You can find me
on all social media platforms and my website reelypic charters
dot com. You look up reallypic charters. You'll find me
on Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, all of those and uh,
you know, would love to get you out on the water.
And uh, Captain Paul, how's your bookings looking. If someone
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wants to book this fall, they need to call now.
Speaker 3 (44:52):
Yes, yeah, for I'm I'm actually had three calls today
about starting in October. But I a man, that's a
good time of your fish, like we talked about on
the show. But yes they can, man if they want
to reach out, they can, you know, instant message me
on Facebook. That's c apt period Paul TI Fishing our Instagram,
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same thing, Captain Paul tar Fishing, or you can give
me a call at eight five o two six four
seven five three four. I'm more of a talker than
I am a like to text. But you know, because
you as a guy, we got to find out, you know,
what's their skill level, what's right? You know what I mean,
what their most interested Because as a guide, it's all
about managing expectations.
Speaker 2 (45:32):
You know that's right, And that's not to say anything bad.
Actually the most person. Don't don't feel like we're gonna
think got a good god. As a teacher, that's right.
Speaker 1 (45:40):
You know.
Speaker 3 (45:40):
I love getting people out there and teach them how
to cast for the first time and then then catch
our personal best bath. That's that's just awesome.
Speaker 2 (45:45):
Oh yeah, I can't tell you how many times this
year someone says I've never caught a fish on a goldspoon.
Well you're about to. Today's incredible.
Speaker 3 (45:52):
That's fun. That's what it's all about. I just had
a lady the other day. She said they come down
just for her to catch her personal best bath, and
boy she did and it was so awesome, about a
six and a half pound or it was incredible.
Speaker 2 (46:03):
It's like I had someone call me yesterday and they said, hey, Kenny,
I don't know if you know anyone in the area
that can put someone on a good bass, but they're
coming to hunt with me in March and they want
to catch a good bass. And I immediately gave him
your phone number, and then when we got here today,
I immediately gave you his.
Speaker 3 (46:19):
Phone number in case there was some reach out this afternoon.
Speaker 2 (46:22):
So yeah, if you want to book a trip, especially
with me, and I know Paul, but my November is
already filling up fast. I'm booking October December, getting into
the duck season, so reach out now and we will
speak with you guys next week.
Speaker 3 (46:40):
See y'all next week.
Speaker 1 (46:41):
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
Today's guest include Captain Paul Tyre.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Here's your special guest host, Captain Kenny Mullins.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Good morning everyone, Welcome to the Big Bend Outdoor Show.
Captain which is not here today. So I am Captain
Kenny Mullins. We have Captain Paul Tyre here.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Yes, sir, I tell you what. I hope Joel calls in.
I'm ready to hear what's coming going on?
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Yeah, So I believe he went to pick up his boat.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Oh man, that big one that goes like seventy miles
an hour.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Yes, oh boy, So he's on his he should be
on his way back picking that up. He's driving the
boat here, so.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Like in the ocean. Yes, okay, the sl service out there.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
I believe he said he was gonna be in the
locks and he'd be able to cool so because gad
Grouper season opens in two weeks.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Yes, that's right.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Art.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Have you been hearing? Are they plenty? I'm out there, Yes, yep,
I've been hearing.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
There's there's good numbers.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Any when you say it opens in two weeks, is
that you know? I like unliking on fw C there's
a scallop seats like different places open? Is that how
it is for that too?
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Well, it's it's the golf water, so all golf gotcha. Yeah,
it's a September one. I believe it's a sixteen day
I'm pulling.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Why don't give you very many days of fish for them?
Do they?
Speaker 1 (01:21):
No?
Speaker 2 (01:22):
It's you know, I don't think there needs to be
a this strict, but you know, I'm not a biologist,
so you know how that goes. Yeah, so but there
it's a two fish bag limit, minimum size of twenty
four inches total length. And yeah, so the season it's
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not polling. But anyways, it opens September first. I believe
it's sixteen days. But we'll go over the tides. And
the tides for today is low tie at six thirty
seven am, high at twelve seventeen out two and a
quarter feet of water movement, and Sunday low at seven
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twenty eight am and a high at one twelve pm
with just under three feet of water movement. So Sunday
is going to be a little better bite in the golf.
But I honestly have not been out there on the
water since the storm. Yeah, I've just had other stuff
going on, and this time of year starts getting slow
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for me.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Yeah, it does get a little bit slower in the summertime.
But I I mean, I tell you what, Praise the Lord.
I've been out having some trips, you know, but it's
just definitely for catching them early and late. For right now.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Yeah, I do have a trip Sunday. Some I guess
you'd say, friends and clients and other businesses ventures that
I have are coming and they want to go fishing.
So but after that, my next trip will be October fifth.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
October fifth, that's what that's when the flats start really
firing up again.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
It will start. Yeah, it won't quite be there yet,
but that'll be the start of it. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
I talked to some buddies that went down around Cape
Samblast night Man. They caught some nice trout and redfish,
some nice ones.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Yeah. See over our way right now. Due to the
amount of water that was dumped by the storm, just
changing things that can get around around Spring Warrior to
pretty much Ekafina River. That whole area is you can't
see more than six inches really. Yeah, it's just super
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super dark. A lot of fresh water.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
So then that that gold spoon would come into play
right now if he was going to try to fish
down there with it.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
I don't know, to be honest, the reason I'm saying
that is there's so much fresh water. I don't know
how how much it's moved the fishing around. I know
it's moved the trout around a lot. Right. Do you
remember Pat McGriff that came yes talking on the show.
He he's fished a couple of days this week and
he said the fisher he said he'd been struggling to
find him. So I will say this, if you're going
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to go out, I recommend a popping cork with a
shorter leader, with it only being you know, six to
maybe eight ten inches of visibility. You want that shorter
leader so when you pop it and they're coming to
that noise, they can see the bait because they're coming
to the noise. Yeah, you know, so you want that
bait a little closer to that pop So if you
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have it down too low, they're gonna come up above
it and not see it.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Yeah, that makes total sense, you know.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
And this time, when it starts getting like this, I
recommend you can use soft plastic even because they're there's
more of a reaction bite. They're they're gonna listen to
that sound, they're gonna come, they're gonna see it, they're
gonna eat. Right. But in that that low visibility, you know,
I like using white chartreuse candy corn colors, you know,
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something they could see. And not only like I said,
not only is there stain, but there's just a lot
of silt in the water from all the winds stirring
it up, so that that'll start settling out. But we're
gonna have to stain for a while because the rivers
and the woods are just so flooded that all that
water has to drain out is draining out of the gulf. Well,
so how's there?
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Yeah, and our lake seminole, it's actually down about about
a foot and a half. And uh, the current the
outflow going out from down as went from average about
nineteen twenty thousand now it's like ten thousand. So theyren't
even an't ain't letting any water coming out over the
out of the gates. Just I totally generate right now,
not full capacity either. So it's we want to we
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haven't had a lot of rain above us to come
to come down.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Right, how's the fishing been.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
The fish has been decent, you know, like I said,
especially early and late. He gets so hot, you know,
after midday it's kind of touched out there unless you
don't have your your fan with your bucket of ice
that's melted to cool you off. But there is there
is a flipping bike going on up there where you're
actually punch grass. That's that's that'll be starting and I
think you'd be getting better and better as we go
into the fall. But right now it's been top water
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early and then throwing plastic worms and and backing off
and finding some muscle beds and fishing those shell beds.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Got you what, what's the predominant bite?
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Uh, the prominent, the funnest bite is top water right now. Yeah,
now we had uh I was out this past Tuesday
and man had some explosive bites but they just they
just missed it. But boy, I tell you what, I'm
looking forward to getting out there this weekend and uh
doing some fishing. Got some folks coming in.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Now, are you still throwing frogs?
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Yes, definitely throwing frogs right now up in the cover
and throwing up buzz baits and prop baits around the
edges of the grass got you and that's been working
pretty good.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Yeah, that's like I said, I haven't bass fishing a
long time, but you know, hopefully I'll get to take
my son here soon, my oldest he's he's been out
and now lately he's uh had a few health issues
going on, and so get him healed up and get
him back out on the water. So I know he's
itching to go.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Yeah, I'm looking forward to. I want to. I want
to take him up there. When when that bite's fun,
you know this, you know, starting to fall from about
October all the way into June. That's when Lake Seminole
is really good, you know what I mean. And right
now it's it's they're there. We're having good days now,
but there's a little more hit and miss because the
water temperature is so hot. Right, But they're going to
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start they'll start that fall feed. It's it'll it'll usually
happens about the first week or two of September. I
don't know if it's going to happen even earlier this year.
I'm seeing some how the bait's acting. It could be
a little bit earlier. I'm kind of waiting to see.
And that's where time on the water, you've got to
be out there to see the change, you know.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Oh yeah, yeah. Now, I don't know if it's like
this on the lake, but typically we can we oh oh,
did they'll get you?
Speaker 3 (07:56):
No, he didn't.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
So typically our fish all though a very similar pattern
year to year. So they may be you know, four
or five hundred yards away or maybe even a half mile,
but they're in the same general area, same general depth,
the same time each year. Right, Is it like that
on the lakes?
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Yes, you know, typically when you're lake fishing, you know,
you'll have a migration to places like Lake Talc. When
we have a lot of creek channels, actually define creek channels.
They'll they'll the shadow start following those creek channels back
to the backs of the creeks and you can that's
more of a fall bite. But on Lake Seminole you
got drains and ditches through the grass, and they'll do
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the same thing and they'll start to kind of move
it into the creek. Right now, I'm finding most of
most of the bait on the middle section of the lake,
and there's big schools of shad, but they're they're staying
around the grass. Our grass has not come up thick
like it usually does this time of year because it
was so muddy this spring. But it's growing fast and
it's got the fish spread out a little bit. But
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when you find the right cover and the baits in it,
you can get some bites.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Well, let me ask you this. Let's say you fish
Creek X last year and you caught a lot of fish.
You're gonna go, Will they typically be in Creek X this?
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Yeah, yes, typically, you know, like the same like respawning areas.
They usually spawned the same areas every year and same
way with the fall. But on Iur Lake you have
on Lake Seminole, it's a lot about the grass, how
the grass is setting up, how it's growing.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Yeah, and we're dealing with that on the Gulf too.
We talked about a lot of our area last year
with the hurricane and all the other storms that we had,
the water was so dark that we lost grass. Yeah,
it just didn't have sun light to grow and some
of that was starting to come back. Well, now we're
back in the same predicament.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
We'll see how long this, yeah takes, But yeah, how
long is you know, if that water stays dingy like
you're talking about, and that sun doesn't get through, it
doesn't definitely doesn't grow grow it fast.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
No, And like I said, it was just starting to
come back, and I figured it would be probably two
and a half three maybe two to three years before
it was back the way it was. Well, now this
is just going to push that back even more.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Yeah, yep, So what have you have you seen this
happen in the past? Yes, what do the fish do?
Do they move to?
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (10:17):
Or do they they do they move further down the gulfer?
Speaker 2 (10:21):
What do they do?
Speaker 3 (10:22):
They move out?
Speaker 2 (10:23):
So last year what ended up happening. We when when
the storms came, we got all that rain, even before
the hurricane. We got a ton of rain, and the
water is like it is now, just super dark, a
lot of fresh water, and we went we went a
couple of weeks, maybe three weeks, where we just struggling
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to catch a fish. And I just kept moving, moving, moving,
and I finally started working that stained line from from
where it went from no visibility and I went all
the way to clear and I finally found the fish
somewhere in between, and they were all stacked up. Yeah,
it was like every fish for miles was there. Yeah,
you know. So, and he was able to ride that
for a while. Oh, I was able to ride it
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for two and a half three months.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Wow, that's incredible.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
So I'm hoping that's the case. Now I'm going to
try to get out there Saturday, and I have to
fish on Sunday, so that's where I'm going to start.
The thing is that that transition area is right there
where everyone is scolloping this year, where last year they weren't.
Oh boy, so that that could be a game changer,
you know that. But I will say the further out
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you go away from those the shorelines in the creeks,
the clear of the water gets. So maybe you'll have
to look for a transition there and see if maybe
they're staged up right there.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Yeah, Because you know, speaking of Scots, has that season
been really good this year?
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Oh, it's been really good. And we'll touch on that
when we come back from this break. All right, everyone,
Welcome back from the break. Captain Paul. You asked me
a question about scollop see and how it's been going
before we went to the break. It has been good
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this year. It's been really good. Actually, there's been a
lot of stuff on social media, people saying that they
were small, there wasn't many. Not the case.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
You've been finding them.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Oh, it's been It's been great because probably the best
year I've seen in eight years.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Wow, that's awesome. Now, will you offer fishing trips and
when you get hot and go scolfing?
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Yes, yes, yes we do that. That's been down this year.
Scolloping as a whole has been down, and I don't
know exactly why. I believe it has a little bit
do with a lot to do with being an election year,
you know, and a combination of that in the economy.
You know, everyone seems to start tightening up on election year. Yeah, yeah,
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we see it all the time. I'm sure you've seen
it over the years.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
But overall, like I said, it's been really really good.
In fact, I just I took a guy out a
couple of weeks ago who had never been before. It
was him and him and his wife, and they are
originally from Delaware, and he has a YouTube channel and
he contacted me said, hey, I've never been scolloping. You
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know what do we do? And I told him he said,
do you mind if I film? I said not at all.
So he came out and at first he was struggling.
He's like, you know, what do I look for? I said,
look for a Ruffles potato chip with blue eyes all
the way around. It kind of chuckled and uh. He
got down there and they found one. He's like, you
were right, it looks like a Ruffles potato chip with
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blue eyes. So he when we got back to the
dock horse, they didn't know how to clean them. They
didn't even they didn't even know how to really dive down.
I mean we started out once spot six feet deep
because they were so thick. I mean you could swim
down and pick up ten at a time. Wow, if
you could hold your breath. And they were struggling to
get down that deep. So I said, look, we can
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go to another spot with their shallow and there's plenty
of them. You'll get a limit. And uh, so we
went to the shallow spot and sure enough they they
loaded up and we were out about two and a
half hours. They got their limit, and uh, it would
have been a lot quicker, but that was our first time.
So yeah, you know, it takes time to get an
eye for him, and we went back to the dock
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and told them what we'd clean them for him because
they were kind of on the little time constraint, and
uh so my wife and I we cleaned them. They
filmed it all well, then they took them to steam.
Hatchie had a restaurant cook him and then he took
some home and cooked them. It was all on his
YouTube channel, which is for First State Fishing. Right Well,
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I didn't know he has like six hundred and fifty
thousand subscribers, and uh so the next thing I know,
everyone says, man, I've seen you on YouTube.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
Seen.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Yeah, I didn't even I didn't even put two and
two together right away. And then I remembered and I looked.
I'm like, wow, this guy's got six hundred and fifty
thousand subscribers. And if you ever get a chance, you know,
watch the content. I mean, great video editing it was.
But you know, that's the kind of stuff we need
to attract people of our area because you know, like
I said that it's down, it's been down the last
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couple of years, but the sculpts are there now.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
Now you saying the water is dingy, so in the
how to find cleaner, clearer water.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
So it's clear where where we've been scalping, where I've
been fishing. So the Keaton Beach area, if you go
south of Keaton Beach, like towards Steam Hatchie, From Keaton
Beach to Steam Hatchie, there's a creek about every mile
three quarters a mile. Maybe you go north like you
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get around Spring Warrior north or in west, because that's
where the bend is. Right through there, you have a
creek about every eighth of a mile. So that's a
lot of freshwater.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Done, a lot of fresh water.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
So I typically don't go south this time of year
because it is so clear and there's so many people
down their scalping. You know that those fish get out
in eight to ten feet of water, where I could
run north, north and northwest and fishing four feet of
water right and have no one around me, right, because
everyone's scooping down that way right. Well, then you also
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have everyone fishing the same areas out in eight ten
feet of water, so I avoid them and I run,
you know, twelve to fifteen miles and I'm fishing in
three and a half four feet of water right right,
But obviously that's going to be out of play. But
the fishing, it's hit and miss this time. Like you said,
it gets hot. But the biggest thing on the golf
is you have to fish the tides.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
Yes, that's right.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
And if the tides is at one o'clock, two o'clock
in the afternoon and it's ninety five degrees outside, you've
got to be fishing.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Yeah. Well, if you have the tide with the morning
that seemed better.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Right, Oh yeah, yeah. And another thing this time of year,
even if you have the tide in the evening, it
gets so hot that those fish are just lethargic, right right,
you know, so you really need to catch that early
morning bite or you're gonna have to fish like right
at dark, you know, right as the sun's setting on
into dark a little bit.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
Yeah, that's what we're noticing too. For your hot water bite,
there's you know, you can use livescope and catch fish
during the you know, when the when the sun's up
in the middle part of the day. But it's it's
hot though, it's brutal.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Yeah, it's I don't want to be out there anymore
on in that heat. I've actually taken off, like I said,
the next six weeks. I've blocked out my calendar. If
someone called me, I'd take them, but I decided to
take some time for the family. It's just getting so hot,
and like I said, my son's having some health issues
going on that we're trying to get straightened out. So
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I need to take time with him. And uh, you know,
family's very important.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
Yeah, that comes first for sure.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Yeah. So, like like we talked about before, getting into Octobers,
when that red fish bite is really going to start
turning on. So I'll get back to fishing about mid September,
you know, going out there about every day, and I'll
fish hard, and that the red we call it red
October because about mid October, the red fish are just
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fired up. You know, I've been catching them all the
time all summer long. But I don't know now, you know,
I'm gonna get back out there, like I said, probably Saturday,
but I know I'm not going to catch where I was.
All right, I'm gonna have to search around a little bit.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
I have to hunt for them.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Oh yeah, I'll find them.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
Yeah, and you know for me, for for bass fish.
And that's the funnest part of it is trying to
find them, you know what I mean? Oh yeah, A
lot of times I find them. Okay, I know what
these are doing. Let's go somewhere else. It over again.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Or you find them and stay on them and start
swapping out baits, swapping out lures and see, hey, what
what are they gonna eat? What are they not going
to eat?
Speaker 1 (18:49):
Well?
Speaker 2 (18:49):
How are they going to read? Have fun doing that?
Speaker 3 (18:52):
That's right? Absolutely yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Pat McGriff has this theory that that you have five
lures that are gonna work that day, five different colors.
So if you and and one out of the five
is going to catch a big fish. So he said,
you get a five trout limit, you have five colors.
You catch more than more than two on a color,
you better swap it or you might miss that big fish.
(19:17):
Pretty good. I don't I haven't tested that theory out,
but this sounds good. But I I like that. My
favorite time is falling winter. Yeah, everyone's in the woods hunting. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
The lake seemed to be more opened on it. Oh yeah,
and down there on the coast, oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Which I'll be busy out tracking deer and wounded deer
for people. But you know, I love fishing that time
of year.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
Yeah, me too. Yeah, I love I'm ready for them
cool mornings.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Speaking of cool mornings, you know, it's uh, we're starting
to see that humidity lighting up a little bit.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
I was noticing that the last couple of days.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Yeah, getting a little bit cooler in the mornings, and
it's just it's its bite.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Me.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
I'm ready. I'm ready for those cool mornings. Yeah, me too.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
I tell you what it there's nothing I like that.
I like that sweatshirt weather.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Oh yeah, until it gets too cold, then I'll complain.
I'm be ready for summertime. But yeah, it's I'm just
ready for that fall bite.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
Yeah, for sure. And you know, you can have good
days this time, you're especially on the on the fresh water,
you can. But you just have to deal with the
heat and if you're prepared for it and cover up,
you know what I mean. Have to make sure you're
wearing sunblock right now. You know, I've I've I'm a
big I had a what's the people that skin doctors?
What do they call dermatology? Dermatologists go and me, he said, man,
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He goes, boy, I see you use some block and
my face was covered with it. He goes, you put
it on pretty thick. I said, yes, sir, I'm trying
to protect guys. I'm a dermatologist, and that's smart. Yeah,
they always do the back of your hands. I wear
gloves to keep the back of my hands.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Yeah, I need to. It seems like I buy them and.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
They they last about me about a month and a half. Well,
my problem is they a good pair yet.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
My problem is they're like socks. My dryer likes eating them.
They go into the they go into the washing. I
don't see where they go. I might have a red
one and a blue one, and then the next day
I have a white and a pink and I'm like, yeah,
that's right. And then and then they go to the
laundry and I might have the right hand this time,
and then they'll come back. I'll have the left hand.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
Right, that's right, that's right.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
But yeah, the the gloves buffs.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
Big hats and yeah, I started wearing a Sunday afternoon hat.
Have you heard of them? I have man older ones
that is a you know, you know those bigger hats.
I had hot ones I guess it's made out of
and those were hot, and I didn't really like them.
I put that thing on. I'm like, my gosh, it's
like putting an air condition on your head. It's amazing. The difference,
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really really amazing how much difference it is.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
I've had people come on the boat, you know, wearing those,
and I keep asking.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
What goofy? But they're man, I don't care about how
how it looks, you know, if because you know what,
you know, I fished some tournaments too, and if I
had a tournament earlier this year, Man that if you
if you're not feeling good or you can't concentrate, you're
you're gonna miss fish, right, and being able to you know,
just stay cool and those kind of extreme conditions makes
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a big difference.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Oh yeah, yeah. And that's like out scooping. I don't
have a top on my boat because everyone will hook
it when they cast, right, So when we're out scoping,
I'll put a patio umbrella up and and it makes
a world of difference.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. I have two boats that you
have a bass boat and I have my my ponting boat,
and I have you know, the beach umbrellas. I have
the poles. I can have them around the boats. I
can just put those up and cock them, and I
mainly started using that so I could drift across the
flats without just the wind, without using my trollo motor.
But it's I could be a little more stealthy. That's
the main reason for art. But the byprod is casting
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that shade up and I can see that are in
the water too.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Yeah, so we typically drift. Probably ninety percent of the year,
we're drifting just covering water, and uh, the only time
we really don't is when it gets wintertime. We get
back in those creeks and yeah, you know you'll want
to work a trollo motor in those creeks for two reasons.
One is obviously not spook as fish because you're in
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a confined area. But the main reason is there there's
so many other people in some of these creeks that
you don't want to run an out bore by them
right and blow the fish out or mess them up,
so you just ease around. And then there's a third
reason over there towards joel In area, and that's all
the rocks. You definitely don't want to put your out
board down and run there. You better just put that
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trollo motor down and ease your way around, right, So
we're going to go to break. When we come back,
I believe Joel's gonna call in all right, so hearing
from him, we'll get back with you all in just
a few All right, everyone, welcome back to the Big
(24:06):
Ben Outdoor Show, and we have Captain Joel Baldry on
the phone. How are you doing, Joel?
Speaker 1 (24:12):
I'm doing good man. What y'all got going on?
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Oh we're sitting here talking about you out catfishing today.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
I figured y'all would be. I mean, that's about all y'all.
I got to give somebody else a break because you know,
y'all talk about everybody, and I really need to talk
about yourselves. He really catches all the catfish and quit
lying to people.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
We've been talking about our so and talking about how
we catch quality trophy fish.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Man. I hope, I hope y'all got order boots on.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
So you know what you got going on today?
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Man? I am heading right now. I just got through
with the closing on the store and uh, I'm heading
right now to pick up my airboat. We're gonna try
to do a little bit of mullet fishing before we
leave out in the morning. In the morning, we're leaving Saturday,
and I mean correct, So going to Jeeper to pick
up the big boat.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
Oh, I got you. I thought you were already on
your way to pick it up.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Well we well we was going that way, but I
run into uh, some other stuff. You know how you
and business for yourself, everything changes plans. Oh yeah, So
I got that, took care of him. Now my airboat
it was getting worked on, and now we're heading over
here to Brantford, Florida to pick it up at Massive Marine.
He does a real good job on building boats and stuff.
(25:26):
So if anybody needing some airboat work done, he's the
man to call.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
I got you.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
He builds them from the ground up.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
So we were talking earlier about how Captain Paul uses
umbrellas for shade but also to push him around the lake.
So do you get some umbrellas installed to push that
airboat around.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
I tell you it's good to have him on there anyway,
because when that motor goes down, you you ain't doing
nothing with that cave because it is like a paras
heel itself. Wherever that, wherever that, wherever that winds taking here,
wherever that winds going up the way. There you go
unless you got your pyr poles. Now.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
So, Joel, is the water pretty clear over your way?
Speaker 1 (26:05):
No, Actually it's murky. I went out last night and
we was scouting for some gator hunts men, Tanner and Jerry.
We went out last night in his air boat and
I went back east to the Ostilla towards Dcafini and
went in a bunch of them creeks right there, and
uh man, it's just like tea right now. It's actually
it's darker than it was a week ago. I mean
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it's you know, you after a storm, it wasn't that bad,
but it's like it pushed you know, all the water
coming from north, the fresh water you had, the rain
water through the woods. I reckon it's catching up. But
the river still ain't that high, but it's it's got
it messed up a little bit.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
Yeah. I know, on my way up here, we crossed
over the Oscilla and it was it looked like it
was way up.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
So yeah, it's definitely up. And you know, we're gonna
have some negative tides starting Sunday. I think eight o'clock
it's gonna be like a point five. And we got
a you know, a group going out Sunday and Monday.
Tanner's out one tonight I think, and uh, Friday night,
if I'm not mistaken. But we got a bunch of
them lined up. Man, we've seen we didn't see it before.
(27:07):
Five good gators last night. But there again, that tide
was almost back in, you know. So when that tide
starts coming up in that hostility, you'll swear up. Now
there's no gators there. But when that tide is on
the negative, get that little like Christmas tree lights out there,
their eyes lit up.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
Oh yeah, I'm much rather. I'd much rather hunt a
low tide on the coast.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Well, no doubt, any day of the weekend. A lot
of people just don't know them jokers is out there.
But they'll be a mile off shore up there. I mean,
they'll go out there moving with the mullet. When the
mullet pull pull out with the tide's where them gators
go when they come back in. The gators come back in,
and it's always good to catch them out on the
mouth laps.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Now they ain't got nowhere to go from you then, Yeah,
the biggest one I ever took was right there at
Rock Island on the actually almost to the outside of
Rock Island. And when we got it back and started
cleaning it, there was there was over seventy stingray barbs
and it's yells.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
I believe it. Uh. You know we've got them with
armadilla shells stuck in their teeth. Uh, you know, turtle shells.
It's crazy. All the stuff they eat. You know that
you wouldn't think, but then being out here that far
off the coast, you know, that just blows your mind.
You know how far they traveling stuff at night? And
and but I said, in the main their main course
meal out there is mullet, and this time of the
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year the mullet was unreal. Last night they were jumping
in the boat and I was having a fit. I
didn't have no nets with me. How you doing do it?
Good man?
Speaker 3 (28:32):
I tell you what, I've been seeing some giant gators
up on.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
I know, man, I wish we could get some tags
over there. You know, people need to let people know.
Anybody listening right here, if y'all got some tags. And
you know, I ain't sure about the you know, gator hunting,
and you know it ain't got too much experience. You
need to give one of us a call. We'd be
glad to take y'all and put y'all on a gator
safely and enjoy your time doing it. So it's hard
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to get a tag.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
So what is your preferred method of teach?
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Do you do?
Speaker 2 (29:01):
You like boat? Do you like fishing rod? Do you
like bait? What?
Speaker 1 (29:05):
Man? Honestly, honestly, the bait's the easiest way, even the
bow really, I mean, but I like enjoy the harpen
a lot. No Indian style way, Yeah, you know, and
from one and once you got them harpoon, man, you
know that that head ain't coming out, so you could
pretty much if you get in a buying right there
or something starts going south, you can just let go
(29:25):
of that rope and you can follow that blue around,
regroup and then come back to it. Oh yeah, you know,
you pretty much got everything throwing the Once we get
you know, harpen, sometimes we put it if he's a
real big when we'll put two harpoons in him and
that way we you know, we we can handle him
both ways, kind of keep him balance when we pull
him up to use the bangstick. So that's a lot
to it. Yeah, and can get hurt.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
Yeah, even if I use like a snatchuck or something.
When I get him close, I'm putting on harpoon or
two in them.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Yeah, And that's a lot of times I've used a
fishing pole. But you know that a lot of people
like using that hand line would a big trouble on it,
you know. And that's pretty much you could take the
fight out of them that way too, because when you
hook them with that truck, smash it on. Making them
up set with that fishing pole, you can kind of
just get it in their skin and they'll just kind
of you know, you could pull it or to them really,
but if you snatch on that thing, you'll make them
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grove a zerk and break your line and everything else.
So I like getting them with that hand line and
they'll go to that death row and wrap themselves up.
Then you pretty much got all the work done.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Oh yeah. And I tell everyone that if we're if
we are using a fishing pole with a with a
big trouble hook, it's not to try to reel them
in with it. It's to get a hook in them,
let them get to the bottom, get up there to them,
get another hand line in them. A big trouble hand line.
You know, I don't try to someone you know, you
try to horse them with a fishing rod, and you're
asking to lose that getor.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
Oh yeah, and you'll lose your fishing pole half your
fishing pole. And sometimes you're real too. Uh I've done
that the hard way.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Oh yeah, yeah, So this is how you get it
sided My thinking. Yeah, this is a happening time of
the year, you know, the dog days of summer going
to start winding down. Got gator season come in, got
deer season a month away. It's and we got some
prime fishing and about another six to eight weeks going
to start popping off.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
Yeah, I know, man, I think I'm hoping it's a
good year. We got to keep these hurricanes away, you know,
we got to have some you know, good water. The
water was clearing back up. It's still clear west. I
went west last night, just ride looking from Mullet, and
I didn't see as many west as I did at
Eastrup there, but the water was a lot clearer towards
Saint Mark's.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Yeah, and we were talking about it earlier. You get
south of Keaton and the water starts clearing up a
lot going towards Steahatchie.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
Oh yeah, like I said, they ain't got that many
creeks and stuff running out over there. And you know,
I'm surprised at that though, even the water running out
the woods, because they got a lot more rain, you know,
that way than we did. Really. Oh yeah, we got
go ahead.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
I was saying, we got hammered at my house, my area,
and on our Facebook page I posted a picture of
our hunting club. You know that just riding down the
main road, the water is almost over your hood of
your truck and that's all gonna flow out the Gulf.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
At one point in time. That's why our rivers is
just now coming up to i Silla. It just took
it a little time to get here because you know,
at our house or self, we probably didn't get seven
maybe eight inches of rain from that storm. Yeah, I
mean the ditches wasn't then filled up the same day,
you know what I mean, It wasn't It wasn't that bad.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
Yeah, it's all that stuff coming down from Georgia, which,
like I said, we got a lot in Perry and
but when it hit Land and it got up there
around Live Oak and it's started heading into Georgia, the
Okey Finocchi Swamp, it just started creeping. And you probably
remember when we're doing that storm clean up. I believe
they said for every inch of rain in the ok Finocchi, right,
it would right caused that river to rise afoot right.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
I was going. I didn't mean to change the subjects
so quick, but I was seeing earlier where Shannon Millanor
was posting talking about our channel and stuff. Have y'all
talked about it any.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
We haven't yet. So Shannon and I went out and
we did kind of a survey on our channel because
you know, the county is doing some dredging later on
this year, and so we know that the main channel
going out of Keaton needs some attention. There's there's two
very shallow areas, and once you start going out, especially
(33:18):
at a negative time, you can get in trouble fast
in a big boat. But even at a we when
we did our survey, it was a plus one point
of I think it was one point four to one
point six and at low and at those two spots
it was only thirty six around thirty six thirty eight
(33:38):
inches deep. Well, you know you drop another foot and
a half and most boats aren't aren't making it out
of that, especially a big boat, right, you know. And
then on top of that, we did surveys of our
channel markers. The polls that are are literally rotten, you know,
they're just so rusty they're about to break. And then
the biggest concern, and in my eyes, is that lighted
(34:02):
booie mark or fourteen. They've replaced it. I don't know
four or five times. But you know, us as captains,
we know because we went through to the C school
and we know that when it comes to navigational lights,
you should be able to head straight towards the light
and safely, safely make it through that channel without any
(34:25):
worries of hitting anything. Well, you remove one of those
lights and you don't know what. Guess what's gonna happen.
You're gonna miss the channel, You're gonna run around, you
might hit another channel marker that's not lighted. That's a
very dangerous situation.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Yep. So they got they got I highly unacceptable. All
these channel markers need to be let up somewhere or another.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Oh yeah, And so we're trying to get that and
we've been making contact, trying to make contact the Coast Guard,
and I haven't gotten any results. Joel, I hate to
cut it short, but we're about to have to go
to break. I don't know if you want to stick
around or if you know you have something you gotta do.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
Yeah, I can stick around for a little bit. I'm
in this line right here. Boy, anybody that wants the
test rapacious, I need to fit in this a very
primary line.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
All righty, Well, we'll get back to this right after
this break. All right, everyone, welcome back to the Big
Bit Outdoors Show. Before we went to break, we were
talking to Joel about the stuff I had going on,
(35:32):
Shannon Millanora surveying the channel markers and and Joel. So
what's been going on is we have reached out to
the county administrator to try to get help with organizing this.
So maybe they can piggyback off of the dredge that's
going to be in the county waterways and get those
two low spots dredged. Yeah, because they're going to be
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dredging County Waterways and Keaton, Cedar Island, Dark Island, parts
of Decal and parts of steam Hatchie.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
And it would only make sense for them to do
it at the same time out they're wanted to be
less money and it'd be done quick instead of having
to wait another year, two or three for them to
come up with all their plans. Man, they got to
do something about this stuff has been in effect for
what seven or eight years now, They've.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
Had the money since twenty.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
Oh yeah, So you know what I mean, that's overdue
and there's no reason it shouldn't be done because it's
like Shannon said, that's that you know, if we've lost
the meal, we've lost all the stuff or revenue you know,
coming from this this uh from our county, you know,
so what better way is to have our canals and
everything dredged right where people would be happy to come
(36:43):
down there and put in because they're spending money, they're
coming from Georgia, they're coming from you know, all over
the country just to come down there and scollop and
fish and whatever, because we got the best fishing in
the country right here in the Big ben So they
need to get it done, man. They should understand that
that's you know, that's what we got to depend on
for a living.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
Right, and not right, and not just that, but the
safety concerns, you know, that that is huge. Someone someone
could end up seriously injured or a fatality.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
Yeah, I mean they people hit them all the time
on accident. Imagine. You know, it's gonna if it's win,
you know, so they need to do something about it.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
Yeah. So I spoke with Shannon this morning and we
are continuing to push this, and we've also spoke with
Victor Blanco, which is our Extension Office representative, and he's
reached out to the Coast Guard trying to get some support.
And you know, we're kind of hitting some roadblocks, so
we're having to go through some different avenues, but we
(37:44):
are definitely staying on top of it.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
Yeah, man, you got to. If not, it won't nothing
never get done about it. You've got to have people
like you, you know, keep pushing them and pushing them,
and soon, sooner or later, we'll get another attention. You know,
if we got to, we'll go stand up on the
core steps for at the Captain the capital right there,
you know, holder signs up.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
Well, you know, like you said, Jold, well, you know,
like you said, we in Perry, we've lost two mills,
you know, and then that has had a trickle down effect,
not only in Perry, but surrounding counties. As these loggers
they start slowing down, the need for timber has reduced,
(38:28):
so there's jobs being lost there, you know, and people.
You know, one of my good friends, he just moved
to Texas to be able to get a job at
another meal, you know. And then that's just trickling down.
I mean I can tell you right now of eight
or ten guides that have quit guiding full time and
gotten other jobs because it's all trickled down.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
Yeah. Well, you know, it's a bad time. You know.
We we got a lot of stuff going on in
this country right down that that shouldn't be going on.
But hopefully all that's going to change in November to
make sure everybody votes, because everybody's vote does count, that's right.
So that's what we got. We got to get everything.
And it's just like our you know kind of commissioners,
we got to get them. They don't want to be
(39:10):
on the same page. We got to get someone in
there that wants to be on the same page that
that is for the people and helping people out, you know,
And that's what they understand that just like a lot
of them, you know, they say what they want to
that mudbogs. That mudbigs brings a lot of money to
this county restaurants and everything else. So you know, fish
is the same way for us, and we ain't got
And that's why Stin Hatchie does so great, honestly, I
(39:30):
think is you know, they got that deep river and
they got so much more to do down there, and
it's just you know, that's the way. That's the way
Keeaton Beach and everywhere everywhere else can be the same way.
You know, you'll get more people in that area because
eventually they're going to run out of room and sting
Ashy the ain't already got a room.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
Yeah, and I'll tell you probably remember Joel spend I
don't know, fifteen years ago now we're close to it.
When I was a manager at when Dixie and Perry,
and I can tell you from the sales trends when
a mudball came, we made a lot of money. When
and when it was scollop season, we made a lot
of money. When it was hunting season, we made a
lot of money. So you know that tells you right
(40:08):
there that our economy in the Big ben region really
relies on hunting and fishing and outdoors activities, you know.
And it's it's not just that. I mean, like even
the campgrounds, you know, r ving it's down in our
area right now. I have a friend that owns a
I actually I have two friends that own campgrounds. They're
(40:29):
they they're slower right now than they have been in
the last ten years.
Speaker 1 (40:33):
Yeah, they man, I'm telling you, it's just it's a
bad time. Our economy is bad, you know. It's just
everything's trickling down on everybody. So it's gonna get better day.
I mean, it is, it really is. We just got
to pray for it to happen. And it's gonna happen, though.
We just got to get everybody on the same page.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
All that's right. And it's not just it's not just
our industry or our area. Because I was speaking with
a good friend of mine who is a rather a
large farmer, and he told me, he said, Kenny, it's
a it's it's rough. He said, you know, how can
I keep farming when I'm losing a million dollars a year?
You know, he said, it has me second second guessing,
you know, my my life choices. He said, uh, And
(41:15):
it's not just me. It's every farmer in South Georgia.
So and that's our business. You know, a lot of
our businesses from South.
Speaker 1 (41:26):
Georgia farmers, no doubt.
Speaker 2 (41:28):
And by what I'm saying about farmers, it's not just
the farmers, it's the it's the guys who work on
the tractors that sell the tractors, the the chemicals, the seed.
I mean, our our region, the Big Bend to Florida
and South Georgia relies on agricultural outdoors. I mean, and
when that's down, it hurts.
Speaker 1 (41:47):
Everyone, right, no doubt, no doubt. I totally agree. Man. Well,
like I said, we'll get it all straightened out when
y'all just know, we got to have people stay on them.
And that's what it takes. It out to the right people.
As anybody tried reaching out to Governor de Santaes over.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
It, we haven't yet. I did reach out to Representative
Showf's office, and we are reaching out to Corey Simon's
and you know, we're just working our way up the ladder,
following the proper line of communication.
Speaker 1 (42:20):
That's right, that's right. Sometimes you just got to go
over their heads and gonna haven ther responses thing.
Speaker 2 (42:25):
Oh yeah, trust me, it's coming. Well, Joel, we have
a few minutes left. Would you like to tell everyone
how they can get ahold of you?
Speaker 1 (42:34):
Yeah? Man, you can look me up on day Our's
Ostilla River Store on Facebook, or you can look me
up at Ostill Outlaws Charters on Facebook. Myself one numbers
eight five six seven. We still got some available gator
hunts lyft, so get in contact with me me or
Tanner with swoot Freak Outfitters and we'll see what we did.
(42:57):
Put y'all on a big gator already.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
Oh well, we appreciate you calling in. And uh, I
won't be here next week. I'm not sure if you
will be.
Speaker 1 (43:05):
Oh yeah, I'll be there. I'll be there. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:08):
I got to go up to Pennsylvania for another deer
tracking seminar, but uh, you know, speaking of that, I
want to bring this up real quick. I shared a
picture on our Facebook page on the Big Big Outdoors
of a deer that I tracked last week at a
high fence in Jennings, Florida. That's a big one joe
two hundred and sixty two hundred and sixty eight and
one eighth inches velvet.
Speaker 1 (43:29):
But that was Aten there.
Speaker 2 (43:33):
Oh yeah, let me tell you what. You don't realize
what two hundred and sixty eight inch deer is until
you're holding it in your hands.
Speaker 1 (43:40):
I know, I'm mad. And that was pretty crazy right there.
And he's still in velvet, wasn't he?
Speaker 2 (43:44):
He was still in velvet.
Speaker 1 (43:46):
He probably had a little bit more room to gray.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
Oh yeah, yeah, it was a giant.
Speaker 1 (43:52):
Well.
Speaker 2 (43:53):
Uh, we're running out of time, so you know, it
was good to good to hear from you. And you know,
I'll try to call in next week when I'm up
there in Pennsylvania, but we're gonna we're gonna have to
wrap things up here.
Speaker 1 (44:07):
I feel good, Captain Paul. I'll let you brother. I
see you next Thursday.
Speaker 3 (44:12):
See you next thursday.
Speaker 2 (44:13):
Joe all Hi, thank you, Joe.
Speaker 1 (44:14):
Yeah, I'll take care bye.
Speaker 2 (44:17):
All right, Captain Paul. How can everyone get ahold of you?
Speaker 1 (44:20):
Man?
Speaker 3 (44:20):
They can give me a call at eight five zero
two six four seven five three four, or they can
follow me on Facebook at Captain Paul Tire Fishing.
Speaker 2 (44:28):
And I am Captain Kenny Mullins. You can find me
on all social media platforms and my website reelypic charters
dot com. You look up reallypic charters. You'll find me
on Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, all of those and uh,
you know, would love to get you out on the water.
And uh, Captain Paul, how's your bookings looking. If someone
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wants to book this fall, they need to call now.
Speaker 3 (44:52):
Yes, yeah, for I'm I'm actually had three calls today
about starting in October. But I a man, that's a
good time of your fish, like we talked about on
the show. But yes they can, man if they want
to reach out, they can, you know, instant message me
on Facebook. That's c apt period Paul TI Fishing our Instagram,
(45:14):
same thing, Captain Paul tar Fishing, or you can give
me a call at eight five o two six four
seven five three four. I'm more of a talker than
I am a like to text. But you know, because
you as a guy, we got to find out, you know,
what's their skill level, what's right? You know what I mean,
what their most interested Because as a guide, it's all
about managing expectations.
Speaker 2 (45:32):
You know that's right, And that's not to say anything bad.
Actually the most person. Don't don't feel like we're gonna
think got a good god. As a teacher, that's right.
Speaker 1 (45:40):
You know.
Speaker 3 (45:40):
I love getting people out there and teach them how
to cast for the first time and then then catch
our personal best bath. That's that's just awesome.
Speaker 2 (45:45):
Oh yeah, I can't tell you how many times this
year someone says I've never caught a fish on a goldspoon.
Well you're about to. Today's incredible.
Speaker 3 (45:52):
That's fun. That's what it's all about. I just had
a lady the other day. She said they come down
just for her to catch her personal best bath, and
boy she did and it was so awesome, about a
six and a half pound or it was incredible.
Speaker 2 (46:03):
It's like I had someone call me yesterday and they said, hey, Kenny,
I don't know if you know anyone in the area
that can put someone on a good bass, but they're
coming to hunt with me in March and they want
to catch a good bass. And I immediately gave him
your phone number, and then when we got here today,
I immediately gave you his.
Speaker 3 (46:19):
Phone number in case there was some reach out this afternoon.
Speaker 2 (46:22):
So yeah, if you want to book a trip, especially
with me, and I know Paul, but my November is
already filling up fast. I'm booking October December, getting into
the duck season, so reach out now and we will
speak with you guys next week.
Speaker 3 (46:40):
See y'all next week.
Speaker 1 (46:41):
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If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
Ding dong! Join your culture consultants, Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang, on an unforgettable journey into the beating heart of CULTURE. Alongside sizzling special guests, they GET INTO the hottest pop-culture moments of the day and the formative cultural experiences that turned them into Culturistas. Produced by the Big Money Players Network and iHeartRadio.
Crime Junkie
Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.