August 31, 2024 • 46 mins
This is the Big Bend Outdoors Show with Joel Baldree
Original Airdate 08.31.24
Today's guests include: Captain Paul Tyre, Captain Kenny Mullins, and special guest Dale Bessey
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Original Airdate 08.31.24
Today's guests include: Captain Paul Tyre, Captain Kenny Mullins, and special guest Dale Bessey
Tune in to new episodes every Saturday at 8am on 96.5 The Spear in Tallahassee and on demand with the free iHeartRadio app
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is the Big Bend Outdoor Show with Joel Baldry.
Today's guest include Captain Paul Tyre, Captain Kenny Mullins and
special guest Dale Bessie. Here's your host, Joel Baldry.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
All right, guys, welcome to the Big Ben Outdoor Show.
Uh you got your host Joel Baldry. Captain Paul Tyre,
we call you captain Dale.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Now say, I don't know if you want to call
me captain, I'll tell you what I'll take buck sergeant.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
There there you go. Man.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
The tides right there, they ain't really doing nothing, you know,
especially like y'all saying while ago, you know, not it
ain't no moon going on. So the tide Saturday morning,
you know, it's low at six fifty nine am a
one point nine and it ain't moving, uh one fifteen.
It's supposed to be high right there, it's a three
point eight, so not much movement at all. Sunday is
about the same. Sunday at seven forty five is a
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one point five and a high at one fifty six,
which is a three point nine, which that's a little
bit you know, better movement, but still it's it's taking
a long period of time it's moving, you know, it's
taking longer instead the you know, being in three four hour.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Time official stage, differently on that slow tide.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Oh yeah, no doubt, no doubt.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
I'm gonna tell you something. I know where the fish are.
I know where they're gonna be.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
You ain't gonna tell Kenny, are you?
Speaker 3 (01:23):
No? I don't share that with nobody from Tennessee as now.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Though, as of now, the weather's looking great and uh,
you know, I think I think it's going to be
a pretty good weekend.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
I tell you what.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
But you know how Florida weather changes.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
On a dime. Man, It's kind of like the old
boy asked me about alligators here again the other day.
I told my said, look, if there's water and a cup,
look for an alligator. I said, because they're they're hair
and everywhere. I was just out with Captain John Swanson
had a trip and we were out fishing every Sunday
(02:02):
last Sunday and we floated over one man. Didn't even
spook it. It was laying down there about three and
a half four foot of water and we could see it.
It was just laying there. And I told John, I said,
see if it's got a little spot on the top
of his head or something. You know, someone doesn't knocked
it in the head and all. But it was. It
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was just down there, sleeping, not moving. And here again, Man,
them gators are there even if you don't see them,
you know. But I'm going to tell you something. We
had a great trip. You want to hear all about it,
sure you do, so let me tell you all about it. Hey, Man,
got down to the got down to the ramp. It
was still dark, but we put in. We lost about
six fifteen and we didn't have to go far. We
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found a creek that was empty and out and out
going tide. And man, next thing, you know, John, I mean,
the first cast he hooked up. We were really fishing
for trout and redfish. My focus was to get on
some reds and he hooked up on a troiut nice
trail and next I'm you know, I'm making casts. He's
(03:05):
making cast About every other cast. We were catching something.
But they did not want any suspending baits. They didn't
want no cage in thunder rigs. They didn't want nothing
but top water.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
That's crazy. How was the wind there?
Speaker 3 (03:18):
We had a wind out of the northeast. It was.
It was beautiful, man. It was like someone turned on
the air conditioning and it's nice. I mean, it was
just a really really nice morning. And we worked those
backwaters and we caught fish. John end up catching the
biggest one. He's a twenty four and a half inch,
and man, what a beautiful fish. I took pictures of it.
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I shared with Paul, sent a picture of the Paul
and was showing them trying to get Paul on the
boat with me and uh in the big picture of
it all. We had this wonderful trip, man. And we
come back to the ramp and I let John off
at the ramp to go get the truck and trailer.
And I look over to my left and lo and
behold set the silver truck. Uh huh, big old silver
(04:03):
Ford sitting over there. And next thing I know, John's
backing in the trailer. I go to load the boat
and here come that truck pulling over. And next ting,
I know, this young lady, the young lady f w
C officer, I won't name her name, but I will
say she's the prettiest f w C officer ever laid
eyes on and I told her so, I said, my heavens,
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I said, they met. The state hired you to make
people smile, didn't they. I ain't saying no names. And
but she was too. She was very very professional at
her job, very nice. We went through she went through
the you know, measured the fish on my measuring stick
and uh in my boat, my measuring Uh. I got
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them on the front of the boat, in the back
of the boat, and all her convenience, but measured the
fish fish fine checked everything, fire extinguisher and paperwork, all
that good stuff. And then uh, she said, well, then
the only thing left is you license. I see your
idea and license. So John, you know, he handed his
over and I handed mine over. In about five minutes,
she come back over and she goes, well, gentlemen, and
(05:08):
I was getting ready to thank She's gonna say, well,
y'all have a good day. Audios. You know. Uh oh,
we were both suspended. We were we were we didn't
have license. Yeah, our license had expired. Yeah, so mine
expired on the twenty fourth of last month, and I
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thought I was on an autover new program. Obviously I wasn't.
And then John's expired on the six So by this
time John had been over there talking with her and everything.
And I guess his brother. She knew his brother. He's
a big houl gunner, and uh, she come over there
and I was like, well, if I'm going to get
a ticket, you're the one I want to get it from, because,
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like I said, she's a pretty one. So I was smiling.
I couldn't stop smiling. But uh, we got warnings. They
were kind to us. They were they were kind, and
we got warnings and man, you ain't talk boy. As
soon as I got home, I jumped online and got mine.
I was like, man, I was doing anyone. That's the
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first time in my whole life I've been I've been
caught with but caught with a expired license and it happens.
But just know that, you know, she's doing her job.
She's very professional, very good at her job, and uh
she was. She was kind to us that day. And
I think there's something to be said about when you're
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approached by one of them, you know, just try to
be humble, try to try to work with them and
be nice and everything, and you might catch your break.
And then again you might not depend on the offense.
But in general, Uh, this time we got lucky.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
And where's y'all fishing out of?
Speaker 3 (06:52):
Where were we fishing out of? Down on the Golf coast?
Speaker 2 (06:56):
EKEFFEENI, uh, yeah, sure, I'm just trying to figure out
which one he's talking about. A.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Well, no, I'll be I'll be true, I'll be set up.
It's in Saint Marks. Yeah, we were in Saint Mark's
and we put in there at the lighthouse.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
Didn't have his whistle either, Probably.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Don't I have my whistle. In fact, I just replaced
my fire my flares. I just replaced him. And then
I was like, she checked him and she looked at
the date on it and everything, and I was like,
oh boy, glad I got that done. And I didn't
even know it. I hadn't expired license in my pocket.
Speaker 5 (07:29):
Well, you know, that brings up a question I got,
especially for Joel since she's a captain on the salt water.
When a person comes down official with you on the flats,
do they have to have a license or does your
license cover them?
Speaker 3 (07:41):
My license covers Yeah, that's a that's another And I.
Speaker 5 (07:45):
Don't I don't understand going out way out.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
In the ocean, but isn't yours the same?
Speaker 5 (07:50):
Absolutely? No, that it doesn't not apply in freshwater.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Really.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
Yes.
Speaker 5 (07:54):
I had some folks come a couple of years ago
and they asked, wowle I said, yeah, make sure you
get a license and they said, guy said, And we
was over there fishing in Spring Creek Armor Lake catching
them too, catching them. I was like, hey, guys, get
your license out here, come to game warding. They go, uh,
we thought our license would we didn't need one under
your your captain. I said, no, man, that's only in
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salt water or did you read that? He goes, well,
I read online. I was like, nah, you read wrong.
But game work and game all three a ticket. So
now sure people have there.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
And I told le Vaughn when Levon and his son
come up there, I said, you didn't got worried about
geting a license because it's covered under captain ball.
Speaker 5 (08:32):
That's only on fresh salt water.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
That's only on salt water.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
Now why is that?
Speaker 5 (08:36):
I have no earth?
Speaker 3 (08:37):
I wish they don't make a sense because it's called
I thought it's called a six pack for a reason.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
Yeah, you cover up to six what license? Do you
got a six pack six pack? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (08:48):
I didn't see nowhere. I I mean i'd have took
somebody on fresh water, thinking that they covered.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
Yeah, I didn't know nothing about it, but allowed the
fresh fresh water. Yep.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Rather Well, what's kind of crazy about it is is
that everything we fish here is connected to the saltwater. Yeah,
so I mean you're you're connected everywhere we go. So
where's that line start and stop?
Speaker 4 (09:17):
You know?
Speaker 3 (09:18):
I mean, do they measure the salinity level or I mean, oh,
you're still in salt water. You're fine here. And they
drink this, Oh it tastes fresh water and you can
get a ticket.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Well, and it's just like a red fish. They go
all the way up into total fresh water. Yeah, catch
one of them. Guess what, you got to have a
salt water license. So yeah, wow, really yeah, they don't
matter how far they are a species.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
After I guess, well, I normally want to do this,
but why not. My buddy is charter capting that was
fetching with and his license had expired. Oh boy, he
hadn't been out in a while taking anybody out. And
because he's been busy doing other things, and because I
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looked at her, I said, well we're fine, we're covered
under his license. He's a charter captain and she checked him,
and he looked back at me and shook his head no.
And I was like, oh no.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
Well we got to go to a quick break. You
can finish that up this second.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
Right, So you know, John, look at me, he's shaking
his head no, and I'm like, oh, okay. So it's
getting ready to get expensive and all. And she come
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back with a smile on her face and she said,
you get in a warning today, but you really need
to keep an eye on that license. And just because
they say it's auto renew or whatever, because I went
to a particular retailer a year ago that sells bass
equipment and they say there's pros there and you can
shop there, and the lady told me it's gonna be
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a renewable license, that I get a new one every year.
And it didn't happen.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
So I thought, once you get sixty five, you get
free locens.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Yeah, once you turn sixty five, you do get a
free license there, mister man. And unfortunately I'm just not
that old yet. But you know what, it's not far away.
I'll tell you that it's only a few well a
few what five six years or what't it's yeah, it's close,
but just not here yet, so don't rush it. Well,
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I tell you I'd rather buy the license than right now.
But when I turn sixty five, I'll be happy to
take one, that's for sure. But that whole thing, Paul,
that blows my mind about the fresh and salt.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Yeah, I can't figure that out. I'm gonna ask about
that because I don't even.
Speaker 5 (11:51):
Make you find anything different.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Let me know, if you're paying for the license, take
people under that, you shouldn't even have to buy that license.
That's the case of them having fishing license, because that's
what that's for.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
That's what it's supposed to be for.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Yeah, and you go about it from your county clerk.
That's to cover them under your license. That's the whole
reason is they spending that four to five six hundred
bucks whatever you got to spend. I think the four
the four people, if I'm not mistaken, is foreign or something.
Dollars is what I paid last year. Yeah, mine's got
to be renewed. I ain't renewed mine yet.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
What's your name, sir? No, you're right, push, yeah exactly.
So here we are on the radio talking about things
the uh, but you know, speaking of talking about things
uh our our dear friend and uh Captain Paul tyre
here took my neighbor out and his son on a
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fishing trip and uh man, I'll let Paul tell the story,
but I can tell you mister Levon Parham and his
son Cody, I'll call them out by name. They're great people.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
Yeah, wonderful people.
Speaker 5 (12:53):
That's a great time with it.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
All I know is I got a text message and
I didn't know which one was bigger, the bassard the
teeth from his smile.
Speaker 5 (13:01):
Yeah he did. Mister mich Levond called him him a giant.
I got a picture of it. I'll show it to you,
but it was a It was a big one. Man
had a great time with him on a top water bait,
on a top water frog and that fish hit and
he was able to get it in and we got
a great picture of it.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
It was awesome.
Speaker 5 (13:17):
We fished, We fished on that was on that fish
bit in the evening. We fished the next morning and
we caught a few bit. Seemed like the big one's
a bit that the evening.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
Before the sun. I take it. Didn't catch a bigger
one than he did, No, he didn't.
Speaker 5 (13:30):
He had a couple opportunities. He had a big one
jump out of the water and just kind of pause
in it. The kind of like Michael Jordan, you know,
he could jump out there and pause and freezing the
air with this bass. Jumped up and did that and
then came back down on the bait, and he fought
him and didn't quite good A hook set into him
good enough, but he got off. But it was it
was a good one too.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Well, at least he did get a hook set. Yeah,
I just snatched it halfway to the boat before he
even landed.
Speaker 5 (13:55):
I kept saying the same Mintosella Florida for one one
strikes out and give a second to eat it.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
I tell you what's super cool about that trip, as
they did fish the evening and morning, and they Paul
has a place for his customers they can spend the
night at that's right there beside his place there. I
mean they walk out and the boat's right there. And
also he's got a nice little home there for him
to spend the night in. If you're if you're looking
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for a place and you want to go up and
do a couple of days of fishing, Paul's got a
place you don't have to worry about much of anything.
Speaker 5 (14:28):
So it makes it real convenient because you know that's
out in the middle of you know, it's out there.
You're about fifth seventeen miles from Baybardg's about fifteen miles
from Chattooching, about fifteen miles from Quincy. So it's it's
it's kind of out in the middle of nowhere. But
it's that's why it lays so awesome.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
Man, you ain't lying. It's beautiful out there and you've
got a beautiful place. The Uh the one thing you
do want to bring is sandwich meat and your license.
Speaker 5 (14:51):
That's right, and you know you can go on go
fish Florida, or go fish Georgia and get a get
a one day permit or you know two day right
over the online.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Yeah, you know you're talking about was talking about game
warnings earlier. I had a story to tell you about
the game warning other night. We pull up to the
dock and he I shined this truck right there when
I'm pulling up, you know, in the boat, and uh,
buddy of mine goes and gets the truck. He's gonna
come running across the thing coming down the dock.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
This is at one.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
O'clock in the morning game warden. And of course, you
know me being the smart but I am.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
No said you got me.
Speaker 6 (15:30):
Lord.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
They just looked at me.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Know, He's like, I was like, dude, you don't think
we seen you. When we pulled up, he wanted to
announce hisself running down the dock, you know, and I'm like,
you caught me.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
He's like, well, where's he at?
Speaker 2 (15:43):
And I said, well, we didn't get him to not
but yeah, he just, uh, he was trying to get
us by surprise, I reckon he thought he was here
good at the boat run and we pulled up. They
always wait to you either get everybody out in the
boat or either to load up when you pull up
on it, and then they form you. They come out
of nowhere trying to snap you. And I just I said, yeah, man,
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I said, you want to check everything looked, you know,
the live jackets and everything. And he said, y'all didn't
get one tonight.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
I said no.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
I said, you'd heard his hooping and hollering coming down
the Riverbody what he got one tonight? I said, But
I knew he was up here, so I let you
down there on the side.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
Of the bank. He looked no, no, man, I said, come.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
On, man, that's why they sit there at one o'clock
in the morning waiting for you to come out.
Speaker 5 (16:28):
They don't go out on the boat as much as
these two day They just budget cut.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
Well.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Yeah, I mean, when you're at the ramp, you're waiting
for people to come in, right, And that's one thing
I noticed there, for the one that checked us and
give us a break and all. But she was parked
off to the side. So when you're coming up that
canal at the lighthouse to the basin there to to
the ram, you didn't see her. But when when I
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dropped John off and I eased forward, I looked over her.
I said, yep, I recognize that, true and everything. And
then by the time I could get that boat on
that trailer, she done pulled over, got out of the truck,
come down the ramp and I said, ma'am, I said,
you'll give us a couple of minutes. I'll pull right
over here and you can check this whole rig out.
I said, I'm good, We're good. No worries. Didn't know
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about that license, but now I do.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
Well, that's what that's what he said. He said, Oh,
and he recognized him. He said, old Joe.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
You know, if i'd known it was you, I didn't
recognize that truck. He said, Oh, I wouldn't have been
down here waiting. I just said, yeah, right, like you
think I was born at night.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Well, I got a sticker. I'm going to tell you something.
I got a sticker. And she goes, well, I can
give you this sticker. They'll let other you know, other
fish game law enforcement know that your boat's been checked
for this year and everything. And I said, well, lord, yes,
give me this sticker. And I said where you you
know where you want me to put it and everything.
I put it right here on side of my center
console so they can sit. She goes, well, because she
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said here, you can put it on your boat. And
I was like, well, I'll put it on side of
my center console that way.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
They say.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
She goes, well, it really needs to be over here,
you're sticker. I said, well, if you know where it goes,
then that's where you need to put it because I
don't want to mess it up.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
You know.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
Yeah, it's a it's a it's a sticker that they
put on your boat. And what it does it tells
the other game fish officers. You know, it doesn't tell
them that everybody on the boat's got a fishing license.
It tells them that the fire extinguisher and and the
life vest and the throat cushion and the flares and
the paperwork, everything checks out, registration, all that good stuff. VHF.
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You know my VHF radio. Uh so you know, shipped
ashore or whatever, and uh yeah, so it was good man.
I I you know what, at the end of the day,
they out there doing their job. Everybody got a job
to do. So but uh, I know Joel, you know,
I'm sure the one he met up with at one o'clock,
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I mean out there at one o'clock in the morning.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Well, he said he's been all the way from uh
I want to say. It was uh like Seminole or
man one another lakes and he said, we were the
almost people gator hunting at night. I said they had
to be a reason, because's why we ain't got one
on the base.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
Tackle what he said, he come.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
From Lake Talaquan.
Speaker 5 (19:12):
Huh yeah, and said they were wanting to see your
gator if you have, Yeah, they don't want to see
the gates. Was there a size on them?
Speaker 2 (19:18):
I don't think, you know, I always thought the bigger
the better to make boots and stuff. But really you
want a small a matching set, you know, two gators
like you know, three or four foot gators if you
wanted the horn style boots. And you know we've always
sent them off to get them process and stuff the gators.
But you know, we did one for them boys in Oklahoma,
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Mantanna did and it wouldn't It wasn't nothing to it.
I mean we laid him out, got to hide, roll
to hide up for him, and took the hornback off.
You know, with razor blades and air compressor and razor blades,
it works magic. I mean, you can clean them right up.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
I've seen that cat on them Swamp People's show, the
one that wears the bib overalls all the time. What's
his name, Bruce? Yeah, I seen Bruce Want He got
a processing facility there at his place, and they showed
I didn't I wasn't there, obviously, but they showed it
on the TV. And he does that air host thing. Man,
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he makes a little cut in there somewhere somehow, and
he put that hose in there and pop that skin come.
I mean nothing to it.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
Yeah, we put it in the tail.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
We put it in the legs and then the head
so you get all the skin loose from you know,
the bottom of the jaw and everything. But usually all
you gotta do is put it in the front legs
to get all that break loose. But it's it's crazy
how you watch it as it's breaking loose from the meat,
and it makes it so much easier when you clean.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
That's pretty cool.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
Well, how's fishing been in Lake Seminole? Paul? I mean,
tell us about it, man, It.
Speaker 5 (20:44):
Has it's been. It's been good. It has been good.
The not as good as it's going to be here
by another month when that water starts cooling off, but
it's definitely cool down a little bit. The bite's been
pretty good, especially early in late The brim are still
bedding all around the lake. He yeah, heat for sure.
And just talked to a buddy of mine that was
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on the water this morning and h man, he saw
mayfly hatch all down the flint side of the flint
side the lake. Said, the brim we're really hitting on me.
He had to hook the hook the tree and shake
it real hard and let him fall into them. Then
the brim showed up. But I'll tell you what that
right now, there's you know this is this is almost
September one.
Speaker 4 (21:26):
I talk to your brother Kenny right here?
Speaker 3 (21:28):
You wanting to my brother, my brother Kenny. I don't
have a brother named Kenny telling you? Yeah, the uh yeah,
I think I think I do the uh oh man,
he's hurting now stop laughing. Joe got old. Joel's got
(21:53):
torn rib and he says over here, Ben.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
All overside right too big of gators.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Yeah, I ain't gonna live boy. I'm telling you, I'm
gonna buy well when you laughing, don't.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
Help me when you unload eighty pounds eighty bags of
fifty pounds corn bags.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
We got to about that.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
It was like three hundred pound bags.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
Yeah, we'll call y'all right, somebody calling doctor. I got
a doctor in my mind.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
We'll be right back, all right, guys, welcome back to
the show. We got Cat and Kenny Mullins on the line.
Speaker 4 (22:39):
Where are you at, Kenny?
Speaker 6 (22:40):
I am on my way back from Tampa.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
What are you doing down there in Tampa? Can you
hear him? Now?
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Do?
Speaker 4 (22:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (22:45):
I can hear I can hear him. Find but my lord,
no wonder you ain't gonna make it here because of traffic.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (22:51):
We uh we went to a concert. My wife and
I went to a concert there, uh, yesterday to see
Stoned Up a Pilot, Soul Asylum and Live.
Speaker 4 (23:02):
Who was it? Never heard of her?
Speaker 6 (23:03):
Yeah? They don't play banjos.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
That sounds like some kind of antique rock band. You're
talking about.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
Sold What they call it? Sold Temple? What?
Speaker 5 (23:14):
What was it?
Speaker 3 (23:15):
What was it? What was the bands again?
Speaker 6 (23:17):
Stone Temple, Pilots Live and sol A.
Speaker 5 (23:20):
Sylum Stone Temples of the Rocks.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
Is that a religious grouper? H got injury? He making
a joe making himself laugh. That's most crazy about it.
He over here grabbing his ribs. He can't hardly breathe.
Speaker 4 (23:43):
What what? What drug out down here? To see that?
Speaker 6 (23:47):
Hey, he does that when he tries to tie his
shoes too, that's why he.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
Oh, man, I wear sliphones. I don't have to tie
my shoes.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
That's like that opening knack down there for the rock
bands called Catfish Whiskers.
Speaker 6 (24:03):
Yeah what you uh?
Speaker 4 (24:05):
What? What? What I mean?
Speaker 2 (24:07):
You're supposed to be fishing, dude, I mean you're down
there listening to old timey rock and roll stuff.
Speaker 6 (24:12):
Well, happy wife, happy life.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Oh no, all that smack, all that smack you talk
now you all of a sudden wanting to butter up.
Speaker 6 (24:21):
Well, you know, fall is coming up, so we got
hunting season, prime fishing season. I gotta get it in now.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
That is that?
Speaker 5 (24:31):
That's very smart, very smart.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
When when did you get back from up north?
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Uh?
Speaker 6 (24:36):
Monday?
Speaker 4 (24:37):
Monday? What does that trip turn out?
Speaker 6 (24:39):
Okay, yeah, it went great. We uh we got some
new some new legislation passed in state of New Jersey
and assisted with some uh some efforts in Pennsylvania and
growing the year tracking community there. It was an awesome trip.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
What so how did you get the legislative passed that fast?
And you got you're paying money off of their big
money man.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Please?
Speaker 6 (25:08):
Actually, actually it was all just perfect timing. We uh.
I had contacted them and they uh about you know,
getting our program pushed through, and it just so happened
when I contacted them was the same time that they
were rewriting or reviewing and rewriting a lot of their legislation.
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So it's just a perfect timing thing.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
So you got them. Were you able to track deer
with dogs and use a drone by chance.
Speaker 6 (25:39):
Now we're still working on the drone thing. That's a
but we did meet with so Pennsylvania is uh, they've
been anti drone, and we met with the one of
the officers that's been dealing with the It's been all
over the news. They arrested a drone operator last year.
And I did a PowerPoint presentation for the Fish and
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Wildlife game warden there and and basically explain the process
of tracking with humans versus dogs versus drones, and how
drones have a place and and wounded game recovery. So
basically at this point all boils down to, like anywhere else,
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what the what the shareholders want, So what the hunting
community wants is you know, money talks. Well, they boils
down to That's what they said.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
They several advantages to a drone. For one is you're
not snuffing all over everybody's property. You know, you're not
wasting your time looking for a deer. You're not pushing
the deer. You could you know, check on that deer,
you know, two or three hours to make sure he
stays in the same spot. Uh, you know, you're not
steadily pushing further and further off from you and not
all of that. If you want a big piece of
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farmland or you know, connecting to somebody else's hunting land.
You're not truncing all over their places and leaving you
see and everywhere, would you? And don't get me wrong,
like I said, I'm sure it don't bothering with dogs
and stuff. But you just not disturbing the area. You're
in the air and once you find a deer you
go to him and get him out. You know, you're
not bothering nothing. So I could see where the drone
comes in, you know, big hands, and that way, you
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ain't making a lot of property owners, you know mad
Either you can say, hey, look we got him on
the drone right here.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
Do you mind if we go get him?
Speaker 2 (27:22):
But if you tell them, hey, I think the deer
is over there, you know, they tend to say no
over that. Versus seeing him on the drone, I would
believe they'd be more convinced of letting you go retrieve
the deer if you know, if they don't want you
on the property, that way you show them you know
that hey there's the deer right here, you know, can
we go get it?
Speaker 4 (27:37):
Versus we thank you's on the property.
Speaker 6 (27:39):
Yeah, and that's the biggest advantage. You know, a drone
cannot find a deer that a dog can't. You know,
a dog will will always find it if it's if
it's able to be found. But like you said, you're
limited on on property lines. And when you can fly
that drone and you can spot that deer across the
property line and you you know, like mine has a
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laser range finder on it that can pinpoint literally within
feet of where that deer is laying and give me
a GPS cornets. Do you go to that landowner, say
the city exactly where it's at. Can we get in
and get out, you know, without deserving the area. You
know what's the easiest, quickest, fastest way. We won't serve anything.
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They are more likely to say, hey, go get your deer.
Speaker 4 (28:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
I think they'd be better convinced of that to you know,
pushing a dog all around their property. Especially you know,
people that deer hunts and stuff and you know, don't
want their stuff messed with and don't want people, you know,
traumce some through their food plots and stuff like that.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
So I think the drone is actually a better way
to go.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
And and like I said, you you're not pushing the
deer because you don't as the tracker, you don't know
how bad they've hit that deer where they shot the deer,
and you allowed to keep pushing the deer till he
quits bleeding, and then he suffers, you know, three or
four months later you never find him. So, I mean,
there's all kinds of different scenarios you could do with
the drone that I think it's a lot better tracking wise,
me personally, but I mean a lot of people like
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tracking them with dogs, and I get that, you know,
I know some guys have got some good dogs that
to catch that dear if he's hurt bad, I know,
if they gonna catch it, you know.
Speaker 6 (29:13):
Oh yeah, I love working my dogs. But you know,
there there's there's times where the drone to be handy,
and that's why I have both. Now. You know, if
it's thick vegetation, thick you know, thick canopy that the
drone can't see through, you know, a dog is your
best option. But if you're on especially a lot of
urban areas, smaller tracks of land where there's a lot
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of property lines, you want to use that drone where
you don't risk pushing them off the property or like
you said, you can cross the property line without permission
off using a drone. You can't with a dog.
Speaker 5 (29:47):
Yeah, Kenny, Are you allowed to lease drones in in
Florida in your area in Georgia up here?
Speaker 4 (29:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (29:53):
Okay, yeah. The only restrict there's flight restrictions, federally regulated
flight restrict and I do have an SAA license to operate,
so you know, I do know my limitations. You know,
you can't fly more than four hundred feet, especially around
certain airports. There's there's flight restrictions state land, state, our
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federal plans. You know, there's flight restrictions on certain areas wildlife,
manageary and all that where you can't use a drone,
but you can't ad allt.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
So what you're saying is being up seven hundred and
fourteen foots too high?
Speaker 6 (30:31):
Yes, if you get caught, okay.
Speaker 5 (30:33):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (30:33):
Yeah, as a big if.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
If I've got some great pictures, I can say that, Kenny.
Speaker 4 (30:40):
You ain't using it to see if the game wars
that debate ramp are you?
Speaker 3 (30:46):
I please, I'll tell you something now. One thing I
know you can do with the drone real quick like,
and you go to be up real high and everything
depends on of course, always depends on water clarity. But man,
you can spot them beds.
Speaker 4 (30:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (31:00):
So yeah, about using one to spot tripletail on the
threes without getting the boat up there on them.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Man, please, speaking of fishing, have you been fishing lately?
Speaker 6 (31:12):
I have?
Speaker 4 (31:12):
You have been fishing?
Speaker 1 (31:14):
I have?
Speaker 6 (31:14):
It's been good.
Speaker 4 (31:16):
They still in three to four foot of.
Speaker 6 (31:18):
Water, depending on where you go the further like how
to how to keep meets the further north and west
you go the closer end, you can still catch them.
But you go around seat Hatchi area, they're they're out deeper.
Yeah that the reds are schooled up. The Reds are
in close, big schools. Uh, and plenty of them out there.
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But as far as trout, you know, you see Hatchy area,
you're still looking that six eight but range you know,
you go north and west, you're you're in that got
three and a half to five and half foot range.
Speaker 4 (31:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
We was just talking to Dall earlier. He's caught them
in the mouth of the creek the other day.
Speaker 5 (31:55):
A bunch of them.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
Man, We got into them in the Mouth Creek and
one of the things I forgot to tell you, Kenny,
and I'll share this with you. I know this has
happened to all you guys that are fishing the coastline.
We got we were we moved into the bay area
a little bit there and we were in two and
a half, catching them in two and a half. But
the thing is on top order.
Speaker 4 (32:15):
Man.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
I was moving the boat. We were idle. John was
standing on the bow, and we just ease and along
because out going tide. Didn't know how quick it gets shallow.
You know, I don't want to throw anybody out of
the boat. And next thing you know, we in the
middle of a school of mullet that must be two
to three pound fish. They're hitting the boat. You can
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hear them running into the boat. They're moving fast, heading west,
dolphin on their butts and they were getting out of
the way, and I was in the way. And next
time and there right here, boom boom, boom boom, And
I load you John and said, what was that? He goes,
I said, mullet hitting your boat. I said, that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
I don't know if I told Joe. I don't know
if I told y'all either. But I caught well, I
didn't a guy with me that was gator hunting. We
went out fishing before we went gator hunting, and he
caught a mullet on a live shrimp.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
Really wow, wow, See that's gonna be some great heating mullet.
Speaker 4 (33:19):
You will not I'm telling you the truth, Kenny.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
I'd have never bleeded in a million years. And I've
showed everybody the picture and everything.
Speaker 4 (33:27):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (33:28):
He actually hid it. It didn't hook him. It was
in his mouth.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
Yeah, the shrimp was in his mouth. He sucked the
shrimp up. And it wasn't no regular small mode. That
was a big mullet, you know, probably inches long.
Speaker 4 (33:40):
I thought it was a trick.
Speaker 6 (33:41):
I've called him. I've called him using you know, dough
balls and Kenny.
Speaker 4 (33:47):
Kenny, hold on this second, brother, we gotta take a
quick commercials down the line with a second it. We'll
be back all right.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
All right, guys, welcome back to the show. We still
got Captain Kenny on the line. I can't continue what
you were saying about how you caught mullet before.
Speaker 6 (34:07):
Yeah, so we used to catch them all the time
using corn peas and dough balls, bread balls, And I
tell you, if you haven't done it, mullet are a
lot of fun to catch, especially on a pole.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
Yeah. We've caught them, you know, in like an Alabama river.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
We'd bade them up, you know with big old cows
and square and pellets that you feed cows. We'd put
them in an onion, sat right there on a sandbar,
and we go white perch fishing for an hour or two,
catch a white perch, and then we come back and
the mollet be feeding all up around that a bag
of food, and we sit there with an earthworm and
a bobber or cork and sit.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
There and catch many a mullet as you want it. Now.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
I've never tried it on I don't even know if
it's legal on salt water.
Speaker 4 (34:50):
I don't know. I don't think there's nothing against it.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
But I've caught them like that, and I've heard of
people catching them with the little balls. I'm trying to
find the picture of it right here. I was going
to show.
Speaker 4 (34:59):
Y'all like he'd been eating stuff for days. I just
couldn't believe it.
Speaker 6 (35:04):
He at Dale, you were talking about all those fish. Yeah,
the mullet, I looked for those big schools and mullet,
especially this time of year, because you're going to catch
red fish around them and big trout.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
Yeah, that's a big that's a big fish. I've never
had him run into the boat like that. That was freaky.
So yeah, it was uh, And I didn't I mean,
I knew that a school of fish were going around us.
I didn't know exactly what they were, but John John
pointed out when I looked off to the side, then
I seen him. But they were getting it, and we
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probably got hit. There's probably at least four or maybe
five that ran into the hull of the boat. And
my boat don't sit that deep in the water. I
mean it says on top of the water. It's a
wide boat. But they sure enough for hitting it. And uh,
but they were on the go man, and we caught uh,
we caught. We caught good fish that day. We were
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off the water and at the ramp and getting schooled
on getting a license by eleven o'clocks. So it was
a good trip.
Speaker 5 (36:12):
You'll catch, did y'all keep up with?
Speaker 3 (36:14):
Well? No, I didn't count them, but we we you know,
John kept enough fish for him and his daughter and
all to have a good fish taco night, you know,
and uh shee because his daughter loves to eat them trouts,
so oh, every what of them? I couldn't catch one
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on them. Brother, I couldn't not catch a fish on
the Cajun thunder rig. I'm the king of the Cajun
thunder Rig. Couldn't do it. Uh suspending baits, uh lures,
Uh John tried throwing that, couldn't do it and all.
But there was a ton of bait in the area,
but everything was top water. And I'll go ahead and
say it was, uh the white spooks. Yeah, the white I've.
Speaker 6 (37:00):
Heard that there's a lot of shrimp over.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
That way right now, you know, I don't I don't
recall seeing any you know, seeing these schools or shrimp
or anything like that moving. But there was a ton
of mullet and we.
Speaker 5 (37:14):
What sounds like mullet eat shrimp.
Speaker 4 (37:15):
Yeah, they might be moving.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
I mean maybe that's maybe that's the deal, you know,
maybe they've changed their diet, so who knows.
Speaker 4 (37:23):
Yeah, I just think it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
How Like I said, it's been like that for two
or three weeks of them in the mouth of the creeks,
and everybody looks at me funny when they come in
the store and I tell them that they don't believe
me that the trout's actually.
Speaker 6 (37:33):
I'll tell you my theory on that, Joel. We've got
a lot of fresh water pushing out still, and that
water's cooler than that that hot, shallow flat.
Speaker 4 (37:44):
Yeah, that's the only thing I could think of.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
But at the same time, I reckon because it's hot,
duugh and when it's cold, when that freshwater's coming out,
it pushes them further out, you know.
Speaker 4 (37:52):
So you can't lie for losing on that. But yeah,
right now that the trout.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
You can catch trout and red fish in the mouth
of the creeks in the area, no doubt.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
And if there's an out going tide and the moon
and the sky, you can count on it.
Speaker 4 (38:03):
Brother, Yeah, no doubt. Kenny, what do you think about this? Uh?
Speaker 2 (38:07):
I hate to change the subject about fishing, but uh,
I'm gonna bring it up real quick.
Speaker 6 (38:11):
I don't want to hear it. I ain't.
Speaker 4 (38:13):
I'm not even talking about Florida State. I'm not talking.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
About man, please, they're talking about no football show.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
I'm not talking about what do you think about our
boys from Uh? Taylor County, right high school boys. Man,
they they went over, they went over and played Fort
White with I think four or five of them committed
D one already. Them boys was and my young has
never played.
Speaker 4 (38:36):
He's sixty three six two sixty.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
Three something like that, two hundred and twenty pounds, and
them D one signed players was having a double team
in because he was he was wrecking them. He's you know,
he got a score. He got they were fishing score
on us, and they he come around the corner right
there and wiped the quarterback out and he fundled the
ball and recovered the ball on the ten yard line,
and then the quarterback made a good passing ends on
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and that got us up fourteen to three. But uh,
them boys just they were ten times bigger than our guys, man,
and it never gave up, you know, and then we
want it and overtime, yeah, now we got to be
if you know.
Speaker 6 (39:13):
But our nephew is the kicker. He's the punter for
Taylor County.
Speaker 4 (39:18):
Oh no, I didn't. He can punt the ball too.
Speaker 6 (39:24):
He averaged over over forty yards of punt.
Speaker 4 (39:28):
Wow that game, yeah, that's yeah.
Speaker 6 (39:30):
And the NFL averages forty five yards.
Speaker 4 (39:33):
Yeah, we had.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
There was several close calls where he I don't know
how in the world it didn't block it.
Speaker 4 (39:38):
I just I hid my eyes because of the lot.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
It was fisting the block at every time, but he
would get it off and get it down the field.
Speaker 3 (39:44):
Well, I'll tell you what your nephew ought to be
getting a call from FSU.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
I'm just saying, well, you technically don't want to have
to use the punter black once or twice the game.
Speaker 3 (39:55):
Just stop it. Stop it already.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
When you field goal kickers, manfs she does got a
field goal kickery.
Speaker 3 (40:04):
Fifty nine yards, he knock it out of the park.
But when you got a young person in high school
kicking forty yards forty five yards pressive, that's a future
fifty nine yard kicker right now.
Speaker 4 (40:15):
He kicks the field goals too, does he does? He
kick the field goals too?
Speaker 6 (40:19):
Uh? Yeah? And he uh so, he's a I hate
to say this, but he's a Gator fan. But he
did go to Norvell's kicking camp.
Speaker 3 (40:30):
Well, that Norvell's kicking camp.
Speaker 4 (40:32):
Yeah's kicking.
Speaker 3 (40:33):
That sounds like somewhere they played Band Joe. It's like
an ice cream barler.
Speaker 6 (40:40):
Oh, Hey, hey, it take It takes a Florida State
coach to teach a Gator fan how to kick a football.
Speaker 3 (40:47):
Here we go, Here we go.
Speaker 4 (40:51):
Man, I didn't even gonna say what I was gonna say.
I'm just gonna leave it today.
Speaker 3 (40:55):
No, please say it's your show.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
Well I didn't drive across the pond and get my
book by Georgia Tech either.
Speaker 5 (41:02):
WHOA.
Speaker 3 (41:04):
Man, that's sad right there.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
That should have been a guaranteed win. But them boys
come to play. I mean that defense wasn't joking. They
were playing for the national championship. Georgia Tech was, you know, Wenday.
Speaker 3 (41:17):
And I watched that game in the theater over here
by Costco. Uh we we uh uh find if you
don't mind me mentioning the Chris Kraft Chris Peter Krabb.
They're always doing great things for the community. And they
did a fundraiser and got the ESPN agreement to air
the game on the theater screen. So we went to
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the theater. We got a couple of tickets and went
to the theater and we got to watch a game
in there. I'm gonna tell you something, brother, I know
you can watch a game in your living room and
your recliner and all that, But until you watched one
on a movie screen. That was amazing.
Speaker 5 (41:54):
What the this that?
Speaker 3 (41:55):
It's the CMX over there by Costco off of Man
and you're comfortable. Well, not only they got reclined, man,
you can get on a little app and order and
they bring you your food. They can order anything, food
and drinks, uh cold beer, whatever you want and they'll
bring it right to your seat. What And they got
trays like and hey, man, like TV trays. That's what
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really got me. I was like, I look at Wendoy.
I said, look, Whendy, they got like trains like TV
trays and all, but they go in your cup holder
and you can swing them around to get out of
the chair in the chair and everything. Man, it was
like top notch. I told Wendy. I said, no, this
is the way to watch game right.
Speaker 4 (42:33):
Here, buddy.
Speaker 2 (42:36):
They probably didn't watch half of it. He's probably sleep
with popcorn hanging out.
Speaker 3 (42:39):
No, come on, man, Nah, I actually a shame on me.
But I run into an old friend and and I
didn't recognize him. It's been so many years and he's
sitting right beside me. And I looked over and I said, yeah,
I sell some of those sports and and he goes, yeah.
Speaker 4 (42:55):
No I know.
Speaker 3 (42:57):
And I went hello, I said, are you And he
told me that he goes, he goes, I know who
you are. I said, well, I said, I apologize, but
it's been a long time, you know, but uh we
had a great time. And you know the Craft brothers,
they always man, they just do so much for the community,
they really do. They always give him back.
Speaker 2 (43:19):
Well that's good, and uh, I hate to change. I
hated to bring football up to y'all.
Speaker 4 (43:23):
I really did.
Speaker 5 (43:24):
I mean it was.
Speaker 4 (43:25):
It was a sore subject. Now it's probably that time
of year.
Speaker 2 (43:28):
It could be a sore subject for us this weekend
against Miami and them Canes.
Speaker 4 (43:32):
Watching that game.
Speaker 5 (43:33):
That's gonna be a good one.
Speaker 4 (43:34):
That's gonna go either way.
Speaker 6 (43:35):
Now that's one I'm be embursed about.
Speaker 5 (43:37):
Kenny. Are you a gater of Florena State.
Speaker 6 (43:39):
Fans Florida State?
Speaker 3 (43:42):
He's Florida State seminole. He's a savage, that's what my
friend Baul calls him. He goes because he's a Gator fan.
I told him, I said, Bobby, I said, still some
of the old sports. I have no other choice. Brother,
I said, I got to back the team that backs me.
I said, but at the in the big picture of
it all, he looks at me and goes, they're savages.
Speaker 2 (44:04):
I rooting for him as long as they ain't playing
the Gators. But now I will put on a shirt
if my young goes to that college and plays.
Speaker 4 (44:11):
For him, I will, you will, I wear it and
I'll support him. But I don't want to, but I will.
Speaker 3 (44:17):
A great story.
Speaker 6 (44:19):
But who was he cheering for on Saturday?
Speaker 3 (44:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (44:22):
Where Georgia Tech?
Speaker 3 (44:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (44:24):
Oh, I was just ruffling feathers. I saw part of football.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
I got on Facebook and says, you know, it's time
to start it. Let's go, Let's go to all them,
all them seminoles want to attack him.
Speaker 3 (44:37):
You know, boy, that's.
Speaker 4 (44:40):
The best time of the year.
Speaker 2 (44:41):
Like I said, though, you know we all get to
It's fishing, hunting season, primetime football season.
Speaker 4 (44:46):
I mean, what's right? What better can you ask for?
That's right?
Speaker 5 (44:49):
Well, it was Orange State Monday night.
Speaker 3 (44:51):
It was a beautiful weekend.
Speaker 5 (44:53):
They played Monday night.
Speaker 3 (44:55):
Oh yeah, they do. They play Monday night.
Speaker 4 (44:57):
They playing Monday night.
Speaker 5 (44:58):
That team that looks like that has the same kind
of colors in college.
Speaker 3 (45:02):
I was waiting for the college that team that looks
like I was like, hello, where are we going with
this one?
Speaker 2 (45:10):
Goodness, well, Kenny, man, it was good talking with Widge
and everything. Brother, And you know you'll be safe coming
back from up there. And I hope y'all have a
good weekend and good holiday weekend at that.
Speaker 6 (45:20):
And uh yeah, I appreciate y'all too, And uh.
Speaker 4 (45:23):
It was a good hollow at you, brother. We'll talk
to you rock on man, rock right.
Speaker 2 (45:32):
Where you couldn't say that that's a control of the button.
Speaker 4 (45:36):
That was good.
Speaker 2 (45:37):
But yeah, man, it's it's gonna be a good weekend.
Like I said, it's opening football. So you know, the
fishing is getting better.
Speaker 3 (45:44):
Getting better, fishing, hunting, football, cooler air, people start calming
down and quick cussing at each other. And because the
heat done drove everybody crazy this summer. I swear the
heat has been so bad.
Speaker 5 (45:59):
Did you find less people start going out on the
water down there on the coast. Well, as he gets
in the hunting season, he freeze up.
Speaker 4 (46:05):
Yeah, yeah up here.
Speaker 3 (46:07):
And I'm will tell you something. Oh uncle Bill's out here, brother.
Speaker 4 (46:12):
We are out of time for this week, guys.
Speaker 2 (46:13):
Hey, y'all stay tuned, and we appreciate y'all listening to
us on ninety six five Spirit.
Speaker 1 (46:17):
You've been listening to The Big Bend Outdoor Show with
Joel Baldry. Join us every Saturday morning at eight am
on ninety sixty five The Spear and on demand with
the free iHeartRadio app
This is the Big Bend Outdoor Show with Joel Baldry.
Today's guest include Captain Paul Tyre, Captain Kenny Mullins and
special guest Dale Bessie. Here's your host, Joel Baldry.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
All right, guys, welcome to the Big Ben Outdoor Show.
Uh you got your host Joel Baldry. Captain Paul Tyre,
we call you captain Dale.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Now say, I don't know if you want to call
me captain, I'll tell you what I'll take buck sergeant.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
There there you go. Man.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
The tides right there, they ain't really doing nothing, you know,
especially like y'all saying while ago, you know, not it
ain't no moon going on. So the tide Saturday morning,
you know, it's low at six fifty nine am a
one point nine and it ain't moving, uh one fifteen.
It's supposed to be high right there, it's a three
point eight, so not much movement at all. Sunday is
about the same. Sunday at seven forty five is a
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one point five and a high at one fifty six,
which is a three point nine, which that's a little
bit you know, better movement, but still it's it's taking
a long period of time it's moving, you know, it's
taking longer instead the you know, being in three four hour.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Time official stage, differently on that slow tide.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Oh yeah, no doubt, no doubt.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
I'm gonna tell you something. I know where the fish are.
I know where they're gonna be.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
You ain't gonna tell Kenny, are you?
Speaker 3 (01:23):
No? I don't share that with nobody from Tennessee as now.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Though, as of now, the weather's looking great and uh,
you know, I think I think it's going to be
a pretty good weekend.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
I tell you what.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
But you know how Florida weather changes.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
On a dime. Man, It's kind of like the old
boy asked me about alligators here again the other day.
I told my said, look, if there's water and a cup,
look for an alligator. I said, because they're they're hair
and everywhere. I was just out with Captain John Swanson
had a trip and we were out fishing every Sunday
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last Sunday and we floated over one man. Didn't even
spook it. It was laying down there about three and
a half four foot of water and we could see it.
It was just laying there. And I told John, I said,
see if it's got a little spot on the top
of his head or something. You know, someone doesn't knocked
it in the head and all. But it was. It
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was just down there, sleeping, not moving. And here again, Man,
them gators are there even if you don't see them,
you know. But I'm going to tell you something. We
had a great trip. You want to hear all about it,
sure you do, so let me tell you all about it. Hey, Man,
got down to the got down to the ramp. It
was still dark, but we put in. We lost about
six fifteen and we didn't have to go far. We
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found a creek that was empty and out and out
going tide. And man, next thing, you know, John, I mean,
the first cast he hooked up. We were really fishing
for trout and redfish. My focus was to get on
some reds and he hooked up on a troiut nice
trail and next I'm you know, I'm making casts. He's
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making cast About every other cast. We were catching something.
But they did not want any suspending baits. They didn't
want no cage in thunder rigs. They didn't want nothing
but top water.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
That's crazy. How was the wind there?
Speaker 3 (03:18):
We had a wind out of the northeast. It was.
It was beautiful, man. It was like someone turned on
the air conditioning and it's nice. I mean, it was
just a really really nice morning. And we worked those
backwaters and we caught fish. John end up catching the
biggest one. He's a twenty four and a half inch,
and man, what a beautiful fish. I took pictures of it.
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I shared with Paul, sent a picture of the Paul
and was showing them trying to get Paul on the
boat with me and uh in the big picture of
it all. We had this wonderful trip, man. And we
come back to the ramp and I let John off
at the ramp to go get the truck and trailer.
And I look over to my left and lo and
behold set the silver truck. Uh huh, big old silver
(04:03):
Ford sitting over there. And next thing I know, John's
backing in the trailer. I go to load the boat
and here come that truck pulling over. And next ting,
I know, this young lady, the young lady f w
C officer, I won't name her name, but I will
say she's the prettiest f w C officer ever laid
eyes on and I told her so, I said, my heavens,
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I said, they met. The state hired you to make
people smile, didn't they. I ain't saying no names. And
but she was too. She was very very professional at
her job, very nice. We went through she went through
the you know, measured the fish on my measuring stick
and uh in my boat, my measuring Uh. I got
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them on the front of the boat, in the back
of the boat, and all her convenience, but measured the
fish fish fine checked everything, fire extinguisher and paperwork, all
that good stuff. And then uh, she said, well, then
the only thing left is you license. I see your
idea and license. So John, you know, he handed his
over and I handed mine over. In about five minutes,
she come back over and she goes, well, gentlemen, and
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I was getting ready to thank She's gonna say, well,
y'all have a good day. Audios. You know. Uh oh,
we were both suspended. We were we were we didn't
have license. Yeah, our license had expired. Yeah, so mine
expired on the twenty fourth of last month, and I
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thought I was on an autover new program. Obviously I wasn't.
And then John's expired on the six So by this
time John had been over there talking with her and everything.
And I guess his brother. She knew his brother. He's
a big houl gunner, and uh, she come over there
and I was like, well, if I'm going to get
a ticket, you're the one I want to get it from, because,
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like I said, she's a pretty one. So I was smiling.
I couldn't stop smiling. But uh, we got warnings. They
were kind to us. They were they were kind, and
we got warnings and man, you ain't talk boy. As
soon as I got home, I jumped online and got mine.
I was like, man, I was doing anyone. That's the
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first time in my whole life I've been I've been
caught with but caught with a expired license and it happens.
But just know that, you know, she's doing her job.
She's very professional, very good at her job, and uh
she was. She was kind to us that day. And
I think there's something to be said about when you're
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approached by one of them, you know, just try to
be humble, try to try to work with them and
be nice and everything, and you might catch your break.
And then again you might not depend on the offense.
But in general, Uh, this time we got lucky.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
And where's y'all fishing out of?
Speaker 3 (06:52):
Where were we fishing out of? Down on the Golf coast?
Speaker 2 (06:56):
EKEFFEENI, uh, yeah, sure, I'm just trying to figure out
which one he's talking about. A.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Well, no, I'll be I'll be true, I'll be set up.
It's in Saint Marks. Yeah, we were in Saint Mark's
and we put in there at the lighthouse.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
Didn't have his whistle either, Probably.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Don't I have my whistle. In fact, I just replaced
my fire my flares. I just replaced him. And then
I was like, she checked him and she looked at
the date on it and everything, and I was like,
oh boy, glad I got that done. And I didn't
even know it. I hadn't expired license in my pocket.
Speaker 5 (07:29):
Well, you know, that brings up a question I got,
especially for Joel since she's a captain on the salt water.
When a person comes down official with you on the flats,
do they have to have a license or does your
license cover them?
Speaker 3 (07:41):
My license covers Yeah, that's a that's another And I.
Speaker 5 (07:45):
Don't I don't understand going out way out.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
In the ocean, but isn't yours the same?
Speaker 5 (07:50):
Absolutely? No, that it doesn't not apply in freshwater.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Really.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
Yes.
Speaker 5 (07:54):
I had some folks come a couple of years ago
and they asked, wowle I said, yeah, make sure you
get a license and they said, guy said, And we
was over there fishing in Spring Creek Armor Lake catching
them too, catching them. I was like, hey, guys, get
your license out here, come to game warding. They go, uh,
we thought our license would we didn't need one under
your your captain. I said, no, man, that's only in
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salt water or did you read that? He goes, well,
I read online. I was like, nah, you read wrong.
But game work and game all three a ticket. So
now sure people have there.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
And I told le Vaughn when Levon and his son
come up there, I said, you didn't got worried about
geting a license because it's covered under captain ball.
Speaker 5 (08:32):
That's only on fresh salt water.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
That's only on salt water.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
Now why is that?
Speaker 5 (08:36):
I have no earth?
Speaker 3 (08:37):
I wish they don't make a sense because it's called
I thought it's called a six pack for a reason.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
Yeah, you cover up to six what license? Do you
got a six pack six pack? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (08:48):
I didn't see nowhere. I I mean i'd have took
somebody on fresh water, thinking that they covered.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
Yeah, I didn't know nothing about it, but allowed the
fresh fresh water. Yep.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Rather Well, what's kind of crazy about it is is
that everything we fish here is connected to the saltwater. Yeah,
so I mean you're you're connected everywhere we go. So
where's that line start and stop?
Speaker 4 (09:17):
You know?
Speaker 3 (09:18):
I mean, do they measure the salinity level or I mean, oh,
you're still in salt water. You're fine here. And they
drink this, Oh it tastes fresh water and you can
get a ticket.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Well, and it's just like a red fish. They go
all the way up into total fresh water. Yeah, catch
one of them. Guess what, you got to have a
salt water license. So yeah, wow, really yeah, they don't
matter how far they are a species.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
After I guess, well, I normally want to do this,
but why not. My buddy is charter capting that was
fetching with and his license had expired. Oh boy, he
hadn't been out in a while taking anybody out. And
because he's been busy doing other things, and because I
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looked at her, I said, well we're fine, we're covered
under his license. He's a charter captain and she checked him,
and he looked back at me and shook his head no.
And I was like, oh no.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
Well we got to go to a quick break. You
can finish that up this second.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
Right, So you know, John, look at me, he's shaking
his head no, and I'm like, oh, okay. So it's
getting ready to get expensive and all. And she come
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back with a smile on her face and she said,
you get in a warning today, but you really need
to keep an eye on that license. And just because
they say it's auto renew or whatever, because I went
to a particular retailer a year ago that sells bass
equipment and they say there's pros there and you can
shop there, and the lady told me it's gonna be
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a renewable license, that I get a new one every year.
And it didn't happen.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
So I thought, once you get sixty five, you get
free locens.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Yeah, once you turn sixty five, you do get a
free license there, mister man. And unfortunately I'm just not
that old yet. But you know what, it's not far away.
I'll tell you that it's only a few well a
few what five six years or what't it's yeah, it's close,
but just not here yet, so don't rush it. Well,
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I tell you I'd rather buy the license than right now.
But when I turn sixty five, I'll be happy to
take one, that's for sure. But that whole thing, Paul,
that blows my mind about the fresh and salt.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Yeah, I can't figure that out. I'm gonna ask about
that because I don't even.
Speaker 5 (11:51):
Make you find anything different.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Let me know, if you're paying for the license, take
people under that, you shouldn't even have to buy that license.
That's the case of them having fishing license, because that's
what that's for.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
That's what it's supposed to be for.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Yeah, and you go about it from your county clerk.
That's to cover them under your license. That's the whole
reason is they spending that four to five six hundred
bucks whatever you got to spend. I think the four
the four people, if I'm not mistaken, is foreign or something.
Dollars is what I paid last year. Yeah, mine's got
to be renewed. I ain't renewed mine yet.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
What's your name, sir? No, you're right, push, yeah exactly.
So here we are on the radio talking about things
the uh, but you know, speaking of talking about things
uh our our dear friend and uh Captain Paul tyre
here took my neighbor out and his son on a
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fishing trip and uh man, I'll let Paul tell the story,
but I can tell you mister Levon Parham and his
son Cody, I'll call them out by name. They're great people.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
Yeah, wonderful people.
Speaker 5 (12:53):
That's a great time with it.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
All I know is I got a text message and
I didn't know which one was bigger, the bassard the
teeth from his smile.
Speaker 5 (13:01):
Yeah he did. Mister mich Levond called him him a giant.
I got a picture of it. I'll show it to you,
but it was a It was a big one. Man
had a great time with him on a top water bait,
on a top water frog and that fish hit and
he was able to get it in and we got
a great picture of it.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
It was awesome.
Speaker 5 (13:17):
We fished, We fished on that was on that fish
bit in the evening. We fished the next morning and
we caught a few bit. Seemed like the big one's
a bit that the evening.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
Before the sun. I take it. Didn't catch a bigger
one than he did, No, he didn't.
Speaker 5 (13:30):
He had a couple opportunities. He had a big one
jump out of the water and just kind of pause
in it. The kind of like Michael Jordan, you know,
he could jump out there and pause and freezing the
air with this bass. Jumped up and did that and
then came back down on the bait, and he fought
him and didn't quite good A hook set into him
good enough, but he got off. But it was it
was a good one too.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Well, at least he did get a hook set. Yeah,
I just snatched it halfway to the boat before he
even landed.
Speaker 5 (13:55):
I kept saying the same Mintosella Florida for one one
strikes out and give a second to eat it.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
I tell you what's super cool about that trip, as
they did fish the evening and morning, and they Paul
has a place for his customers they can spend the
night at that's right there beside his place there. I
mean they walk out and the boat's right there. And
also he's got a nice little home there for him
to spend the night in. If you're if you're looking
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for a place and you want to go up and
do a couple of days of fishing, Paul's got a
place you don't have to worry about much of anything.
Speaker 5 (14:28):
So it makes it real convenient because you know that's
out in the middle of you know, it's out there.
You're about fifth seventeen miles from Baybardg's about fifteen miles
from Chattooching, about fifteen miles from Quincy. So it's it's
it's kind of out in the middle of nowhere. But
it's that's why it lays so awesome.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
Man, you ain't lying. It's beautiful out there and you've
got a beautiful place. The Uh the one thing you
do want to bring is sandwich meat and your license.
Speaker 5 (14:51):
That's right, and you know you can go on go
fish Florida, or go fish Georgia and get a get
a one day permit or you know two day right
over the online.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Yeah, you know you're talking about was talking about game
warnings earlier. I had a story to tell you about
the game warning other night. We pull up to the
dock and he I shined this truck right there when
I'm pulling up, you know, in the boat, and uh,
buddy of mine goes and gets the truck. He's gonna
come running across the thing coming down the dock.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
This is at one.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
O'clock in the morning game warden. And of course, you
know me being the smart but I am.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
No said you got me.
Speaker 6 (15:30):
Lord.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
They just looked at me.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Know, He's like, I was like, dude, you don't think
we seen you. When we pulled up, he wanted to
announce hisself running down the dock, you know, and I'm like,
you caught me.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
He's like, well, where's he at?
Speaker 2 (15:43):
And I said, well, we didn't get him to not
but yeah, he just, uh, he was trying to get
us by surprise, I reckon he thought he was here
good at the boat run and we pulled up. They
always wait to you either get everybody out in the
boat or either to load up when you pull up
on it, and then they form you. They come out
of nowhere trying to snap you. And I just I said, yeah, man,
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I said, you want to check everything looked, you know,
the live jackets and everything. And he said, y'all didn't
get one tonight.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
I said no.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
I said, you'd heard his hooping and hollering coming down
the Riverbody what he got one tonight? I said, But
I knew he was up here, so I let you
down there on the side.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
Of the bank. He looked no, no, man, I said, come.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
On, man, that's why they sit there at one o'clock
in the morning waiting for you to come out.
Speaker 5 (16:28):
They don't go out on the boat as much as
these two day They just budget cut.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
Well.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Yeah, I mean, when you're at the ramp, you're waiting
for people to come in, right, And that's one thing
I noticed there, for the one that checked us and
give us a break and all. But she was parked
off to the side. So when you're coming up that
canal at the lighthouse to the basin there to to
the ram, you didn't see her. But when when I
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dropped John off and I eased forward, I looked over her.
I said, yep, I recognize that, true and everything. And
then by the time I could get that boat on
that trailer, she done pulled over, got out of the truck,
come down the ramp and I said, ma'am, I said,
you'll give us a couple of minutes. I'll pull right
over here and you can check this whole rig out.
I said, I'm good, We're good. No worries. Didn't know
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about that license, but now I do.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
Well, that's what that's what he said. He said, Oh,
and he recognized him. He said, old Joe.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
You know, if i'd known it was you, I didn't
recognize that truck. He said, Oh, I wouldn't have been
down here waiting. I just said, yeah, right, like you
think I was born at night.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Well, I got a sticker. I'm going to tell you something.
I got a sticker. And she goes, well, I can
give you this sticker. They'll let other you know, other
fish game law enforcement know that your boat's been checked
for this year and everything. And I said, well, lord, yes,
give me this sticker. And I said where you you
know where you want me to put it and everything.
I put it right here on side of my center
console so they can sit. She goes, well, because she
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said here, you can put it on your boat. And
I was like, well, I'll put it on side of
my center console that way.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
They say.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
She goes, well, it really needs to be over here,
you're sticker. I said, well, if you know where it goes,
then that's where you need to put it because I
don't want to mess it up.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
You know.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
Yeah, it's a it's a it's a sticker that they
put on your boat. And what it does it tells
the other game fish officers. You know, it doesn't tell
them that everybody on the boat's got a fishing license.
It tells them that the fire extinguisher and and the
life vest and the throat cushion and the flares and
the paperwork, everything checks out, registration, all that good stuff. VHF.
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You know my VHF radio. Uh so you know, shipped
ashore or whatever, and uh yeah, so it was good man.
I I you know what, at the end of the day,
they out there doing their job. Everybody got a job
to do. So but uh, I know Joel, you know,
I'm sure the one he met up with at one o'clock,
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I mean out there at one o'clock in the morning.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Well, he said he's been all the way from uh
I want to say. It was uh like Seminole or
man one another lakes and he said, we were the
almost people gator hunting at night. I said they had
to be a reason, because's why we ain't got one
on the base.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
Tackle what he said, he come.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
From Lake Talaquan.
Speaker 5 (19:12):
Huh yeah, and said they were wanting to see your
gator if you have, Yeah, they don't want to see
the gates. Was there a size on them?
Speaker 2 (19:18):
I don't think, you know, I always thought the bigger
the better to make boots and stuff. But really you
want a small a matching set, you know, two gators
like you know, three or four foot gators if you
wanted the horn style boots. And you know we've always
sent them off to get them process and stuff the gators.
But you know, we did one for them boys in Oklahoma,
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Mantanna did and it wouldn't It wasn't nothing to it.
I mean we laid him out, got to hide, roll
to hide up for him, and took the hornback off.
You know, with razor blades and air compressor and razor blades,
it works magic. I mean, you can clean them right up.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
I've seen that cat on them Swamp People's show, the
one that wears the bib overalls all the time. What's
his name, Bruce? Yeah, I seen Bruce Want He got
a processing facility there at his place, and they showed
I didn't I wasn't there, obviously, but they showed it
on the TV. And he does that air host thing. Man,
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he makes a little cut in there somewhere somehow, and
he put that hose in there and pop that skin come.
I mean nothing to it.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
Yeah, we put it in the tail.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
We put it in the legs and then the head
so you get all the skin loose from you know,
the bottom of the jaw and everything. But usually all
you gotta do is put it in the front legs
to get all that break loose. But it's it's crazy
how you watch it as it's breaking loose from the meat,
and it makes it so much easier when you clean.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
That's pretty cool.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
Well, how's fishing been in Lake Seminole? Paul? I mean,
tell us about it, man, It.
Speaker 5 (20:44):
Has it's been. It's been good. It has been good.
The not as good as it's going to be here
by another month when that water starts cooling off, but
it's definitely cool down a little bit. The bite's been
pretty good, especially early in late The brim are still
bedding all around the lake. He yeah, heat for sure.
And just talked to a buddy of mine that was
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on the water this morning and h man, he saw
mayfly hatch all down the flint side of the flint
side the lake. Said, the brim we're really hitting on me.
He had to hook the hook the tree and shake
it real hard and let him fall into them. Then
the brim showed up. But I'll tell you what that
right now, there's you know this is this is almost
September one.
Speaker 4 (21:26):
I talk to your brother Kenny right here?
Speaker 3 (21:28):
You wanting to my brother, my brother Kenny. I don't
have a brother named Kenny telling you? Yeah, the uh yeah,
I think I think I do the uh oh man,
he's hurting now stop laughing. Joe got old. Joel's got
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torn rib and he says over here, Ben.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
All overside right too big of gators.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Yeah, I ain't gonna live boy. I'm telling you, I'm
gonna buy well when you laughing, don't.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
Help me when you unload eighty pounds eighty bags of
fifty pounds corn bags.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
We got to about that.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
It was like three hundred pound bags.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
Yeah, we'll call y'all right, somebody calling doctor. I got
a doctor in my mind.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
We'll be right back, all right, guys, welcome back to
the show. We got Cat and Kenny Mullins on the line.
Speaker 4 (22:39):
Where are you at, Kenny?
Speaker 6 (22:40):
I am on my way back from Tampa.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
What are you doing down there in Tampa? Can you
hear him? Now?
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Do?
Speaker 4 (22:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (22:45):
I can hear I can hear him. Find but my lord,
no wonder you ain't gonna make it here because of traffic.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (22:51):
We uh we went to a concert. My wife and
I went to a concert there, uh, yesterday to see
Stoned Up a Pilot, Soul Asylum and Live.
Speaker 4 (23:02):
Who was it? Never heard of her?
Speaker 6 (23:03):
Yeah? They don't play banjos.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
That sounds like some kind of antique rock band. You're
talking about.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
Sold What they call it? Sold Temple? What?
Speaker 5 (23:14):
What was it?
Speaker 3 (23:15):
What was it? What was the bands again?
Speaker 6 (23:17):
Stone Temple, Pilots Live and sol A.
Speaker 5 (23:20):
Sylum Stone Temples of the Rocks.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
Is that a religious grouper? H got injury? He making
a joe making himself laugh. That's most crazy about it.
He over here grabbing his ribs. He can't hardly breathe.
Speaker 4 (23:43):
What what? What drug out down here? To see that?
Speaker 6 (23:47):
Hey, he does that when he tries to tie his
shoes too, that's why he.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
Oh, man, I wear sliphones. I don't have to tie
my shoes.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
That's like that opening knack down there for the rock
bands called Catfish Whiskers.
Speaker 6 (24:03):
Yeah what you uh?
Speaker 4 (24:05):
What? What? What I mean?
Speaker 2 (24:07):
You're supposed to be fishing, dude, I mean you're down
there listening to old timey rock and roll stuff.
Speaker 6 (24:12):
Well, happy wife, happy life.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Oh no, all that smack, all that smack you talk
now you all of a sudden wanting to butter up.
Speaker 6 (24:21):
Well, you know, fall is coming up, so we got
hunting season, prime fishing season. I gotta get it in now.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
That is that?
Speaker 5 (24:31):
That's very smart, very smart.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
When when did you get back from up north?
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Uh?
Speaker 6 (24:36):
Monday?
Speaker 4 (24:37):
Monday? What does that trip turn out?
Speaker 6 (24:39):
Okay, yeah, it went great. We uh we got some
new some new legislation passed in state of New Jersey
and assisted with some uh some efforts in Pennsylvania and
growing the year tracking community there. It was an awesome trip.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
What so how did you get the legislative passed that fast?
And you got you're paying money off of their big
money man.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Please?
Speaker 6 (25:08):
Actually, actually it was all just perfect timing. We uh.
I had contacted them and they uh about you know,
getting our program pushed through, and it just so happened
when I contacted them was the same time that they
were rewriting or reviewing and rewriting a lot of their legislation.
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So it's just a perfect timing thing.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
So you got them. Were you able to track deer
with dogs and use a drone by chance.
Speaker 6 (25:39):
Now we're still working on the drone thing. That's a
but we did meet with so Pennsylvania is uh, they've
been anti drone, and we met with the one of
the officers that's been dealing with the It's been all
over the news. They arrested a drone operator last year.
And I did a PowerPoint presentation for the Fish and
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Wildlife game warden there and and basically explain the process
of tracking with humans versus dogs versus drones, and how
drones have a place and and wounded game recovery. So
basically at this point all boils down to, like anywhere else,
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what the what the shareholders want, So what the hunting
community wants is you know, money talks. Well, they boils
down to That's what they said.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
They several advantages to a drone. For one is you're
not snuffing all over everybody's property. You know, you're not
wasting your time looking for a deer. You're not pushing
the deer. You could you know, check on that deer,
you know, two or three hours to make sure he
stays in the same spot. Uh, you know, you're not
steadily pushing further and further off from you and not
all of that. If you want a big piece of
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farmland or you know, connecting to somebody else's hunting land.
You're not truncing all over their places and leaving you
see and everywhere, would you? And don't get me wrong,
like I said, I'm sure it don't bothering with dogs
and stuff. But you just not disturbing the area. You're
in the air and once you find a deer you
go to him and get him out. You know, you're
not bothering nothing. So I could see where the drone
comes in, you know, big hands, and that way, you
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ain't making a lot of property owners, you know mad
Either you can say, hey, look we got him on
the drone right here.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
Do you mind if we go get him?
Speaker 2 (27:22):
But if you tell them, hey, I think the deer
is over there, you know, they tend to say no
over that. Versus seeing him on the drone, I would
believe they'd be more convinced of letting you go retrieve
the deer if you know, if they don't want you
on the property, that way you show them you know
that hey there's the deer right here, you know, can
we go get it?
Speaker 4 (27:37):
Versus we thank you's on the property.
Speaker 6 (27:39):
Yeah, and that's the biggest advantage. You know, a drone
cannot find a deer that a dog can't. You know,
a dog will will always find it if it's if
it's able to be found. But like you said, you're
limited on on property lines. And when you can fly
that drone and you can spot that deer across the
property line and you you know, like mine has a
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laser range finder on it that can pinpoint literally within
feet of where that deer is laying and give me
a GPS cornets. Do you go to that landowner, say
the city exactly where it's at. Can we get in
and get out, you know, without deserving the area. You
know what's the easiest, quickest, fastest way. We won't serve anything.
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They are more likely to say, hey, go get your deer.
Speaker 4 (28:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
I think they'd be better convinced of that to you know,
pushing a dog all around their property. Especially you know,
people that deer hunts and stuff and you know, don't
want their stuff messed with and don't want people, you know,
traumce some through their food plots and stuff like that.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
So I think the drone is actually a better way
to go.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
And and like I said, you you're not pushing the
deer because you don't as the tracker, you don't know
how bad they've hit that deer where they shot the deer,
and you allowed to keep pushing the deer till he
quits bleeding, and then he suffers, you know, three or
four months later you never find him. So, I mean,
there's all kinds of different scenarios you could do with
the drone that I think it's a lot better tracking wise,
me personally, but I mean a lot of people like
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tracking them with dogs, and I get that, you know,
I know some guys have got some good dogs that
to catch that dear if he's hurt bad, I know,
if they gonna catch it, you know.
Speaker 6 (29:13):
Oh yeah, I love working my dogs. But you know,
there there's there's times where the drone to be handy,
and that's why I have both. Now. You know, if
it's thick vegetation, thick you know, thick canopy that the
drone can't see through, you know, a dog is your
best option. But if you're on especially a lot of
urban areas, smaller tracks of land where there's a lot
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of property lines, you want to use that drone where
you don't risk pushing them off the property or like
you said, you can cross the property line without permission
off using a drone. You can't with a dog.
Speaker 5 (29:47):
Yeah, Kenny, Are you allowed to lease drones in in
Florida in your area in Georgia up here?
Speaker 4 (29:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (29:53):
Okay, yeah. The only restrict there's flight restrictions, federally regulated
flight restrict and I do have an SAA license to operate,
so you know, I do know my limitations. You know,
you can't fly more than four hundred feet, especially around
certain airports. There's there's flight restrictions state land, state, our
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federal plans. You know, there's flight restrictions on certain areas wildlife,
manageary and all that where you can't use a drone,
but you can't ad allt.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
So what you're saying is being up seven hundred and
fourteen foots too high?
Speaker 6 (30:31):
Yes, if you get caught, okay.
Speaker 5 (30:33):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (30:33):
Yeah, as a big if.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
If I've got some great pictures, I can say that, Kenny.
Speaker 4 (30:40):
You ain't using it to see if the game wars
that debate ramp are you?
Speaker 3 (30:46):
I please, I'll tell you something now. One thing I
know you can do with the drone real quick like,
and you go to be up real high and everything
depends on of course, always depends on water clarity. But man,
you can spot them beds.
Speaker 4 (30:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (31:00):
So yeah, about using one to spot tripletail on the
threes without getting the boat up there on them.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Man, please, speaking of fishing, have you been fishing lately?
Speaker 6 (31:12):
I have?
Speaker 4 (31:12):
You have been fishing?
Speaker 1 (31:14):
I have?
Speaker 6 (31:14):
It's been good.
Speaker 4 (31:16):
They still in three to four foot of.
Speaker 6 (31:18):
Water, depending on where you go the further like how
to how to keep meets the further north and west
you go the closer end, you can still catch them.
But you go around seat Hatchi area, they're they're out deeper.
Yeah that the reds are schooled up. The Reds are
in close, big schools. Uh, and plenty of them out there.
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But as far as trout, you know, you see Hatchy area,
you're still looking that six eight but range you know,
you go north and west, you're you're in that got
three and a half to five and half foot range.
Speaker 4 (31:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
We was just talking to Dall earlier. He's caught them
in the mouth of the creek the other day.
Speaker 5 (31:55):
A bunch of them.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
Man, We got into them in the Mouth Creek and
one of the things I forgot to tell you, Kenny,
and I'll share this with you. I know this has
happened to all you guys that are fishing the coastline.
We got we were we moved into the bay area
a little bit there and we were in two and
a half, catching them in two and a half. But
the thing is on top order.
Speaker 4 (32:15):
Man.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
I was moving the boat. We were idle. John was
standing on the bow, and we just ease and along
because out going tide. Didn't know how quick it gets shallow.
You know, I don't want to throw anybody out of
the boat. And next thing you know, we in the
middle of a school of mullet that must be two
to three pound fish. They're hitting the boat. You can
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hear them running into the boat. They're moving fast, heading west,
dolphin on their butts and they were getting out of
the way, and I was in the way. And next
time and there right here, boom boom, boom boom, And
I load you John and said, what was that? He goes,
I said, mullet hitting your boat. I said, that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
I don't know if I told Joe. I don't know
if I told y'all either. But I caught well, I
didn't a guy with me that was gator hunting. We
went out fishing before we went gator hunting, and he
caught a mullet on a live shrimp.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
Really wow, wow, See that's gonna be some great heating mullet.
Speaker 4 (33:19):
You will not I'm telling you the truth, Kenny.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
I'd have never bleeded in a million years. And I've
showed everybody the picture and everything.
Speaker 4 (33:27):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (33:28):
He actually hid it. It didn't hook him. It was
in his mouth.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
Yeah, the shrimp was in his mouth. He sucked the
shrimp up. And it wasn't no regular small mode. That
was a big mullet, you know, probably inches long.
Speaker 4 (33:40):
I thought it was a trick.
Speaker 6 (33:41):
I've called him. I've called him using you know, dough
balls and Kenny.
Speaker 4 (33:47):
Kenny, hold on this second, brother, we gotta take a
quick commercials down the line with a second it. We'll
be back all right.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
All right, guys, welcome back to the show. We still
got Captain Kenny on the line. I can't continue what
you were saying about how you caught mullet before.
Speaker 6 (34:07):
Yeah, so we used to catch them all the time
using corn peas and dough balls, bread balls, And I
tell you, if you haven't done it, mullet are a
lot of fun to catch, especially on a pole.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
Yeah. We've caught them, you know, in like an Alabama river.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
We'd bade them up, you know with big old cows
and square and pellets that you feed cows. We'd put
them in an onion, sat right there on a sandbar,
and we go white perch fishing for an hour or two,
catch a white perch, and then we come back and
the mollet be feeding all up around that a bag
of food, and we sit there with an earthworm and
a bobber or cork and sit.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
There and catch many a mullet as you want it. Now.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
I've never tried it on I don't even know if
it's legal on salt water.
Speaker 4 (34:50):
I don't know. I don't think there's nothing against it.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
But I've caught them like that, and I've heard of
people catching them with the little balls. I'm trying to
find the picture of it right here. I was going
to show.
Speaker 4 (34:59):
Y'all like he'd been eating stuff for days. I just
couldn't believe it.
Speaker 6 (35:04):
He at Dale, you were talking about all those fish. Yeah,
the mullet, I looked for those big schools and mullet,
especially this time of year, because you're going to catch
red fish around them and big trout.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
Yeah, that's a big that's a big fish. I've never
had him run into the boat like that. That was freaky.
So yeah, it was uh, And I didn't I mean,
I knew that a school of fish were going around us.
I didn't know exactly what they were, but John John
pointed out when I looked off to the side, then
I seen him. But they were getting it, and we
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probably got hit. There's probably at least four or maybe
five that ran into the hull of the boat. And
my boat don't sit that deep in the water. I
mean it says on top of the water. It's a
wide boat. But they sure enough for hitting it. And uh,
but they were on the go man, and we caught uh,
we caught. We caught good fish that day. We were
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off the water and at the ramp and getting schooled
on getting a license by eleven o'clocks. So it was
a good trip.
Speaker 5 (36:12):
You'll catch, did y'all keep up with?
Speaker 3 (36:14):
Well? No, I didn't count them, but we we you know,
John kept enough fish for him and his daughter and
all to have a good fish taco night, you know,
and uh shee because his daughter loves to eat them trouts,
so oh, every what of them? I couldn't catch one
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on them. Brother, I couldn't not catch a fish on
the Cajun thunder rig. I'm the king of the Cajun
thunder Rig. Couldn't do it. Uh suspending baits, uh lures,
Uh John tried throwing that, couldn't do it and all.
But there was a ton of bait in the area,
but everything was top water. And I'll go ahead and
say it was, uh the white spooks. Yeah, the white I've.
Speaker 6 (37:00):
Heard that there's a lot of shrimp over.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
That way right now, you know, I don't I don't
recall seeing any you know, seeing these schools or shrimp
or anything like that moving. But there was a ton
of mullet and we.
Speaker 5 (37:14):
What sounds like mullet eat shrimp.
Speaker 4 (37:15):
Yeah, they might be moving.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
I mean maybe that's maybe that's the deal, you know,
maybe they've changed their diet, so who knows.
Speaker 4 (37:23):
Yeah, I just think it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
How Like I said, it's been like that for two
or three weeks of them in the mouth of the creeks,
and everybody looks at me funny when they come in
the store and I tell them that they don't believe
me that the trout's actually.
Speaker 6 (37:33):
I'll tell you my theory on that, Joel. We've got
a lot of fresh water pushing out still, and that
water's cooler than that that hot, shallow flat.
Speaker 4 (37:44):
Yeah, that's the only thing I could think of.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
But at the same time, I reckon because it's hot,
duugh and when it's cold, when that freshwater's coming out,
it pushes them further out, you know.
Speaker 4 (37:52):
So you can't lie for losing on that. But yeah,
right now that the trout.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
You can catch trout and red fish in the mouth
of the creeks in the area, no doubt.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
And if there's an out going tide and the moon
and the sky, you can count on it.
Speaker 4 (38:03):
Brother, Yeah, no doubt. Kenny, what do you think about this? Uh?
Speaker 2 (38:07):
I hate to change the subject about fishing, but uh,
I'm gonna bring it up real quick.
Speaker 6 (38:11):
I don't want to hear it. I ain't.
Speaker 4 (38:13):
I'm not even talking about Florida State. I'm not talking.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
About man, please, they're talking about no football show.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
I'm not talking about what do you think about our
boys from Uh? Taylor County, right high school boys. Man,
they they went over, they went over and played Fort
White with I think four or five of them committed
D one already. Them boys was and my young has
never played.
Speaker 4 (38:36):
He's sixty three six two sixty.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
Three something like that, two hundred and twenty pounds, and
them D one signed players was having a double team
in because he was he was wrecking them. He's you know,
he got a score. He got they were fishing score
on us, and they he come around the corner right
there and wiped the quarterback out and he fundled the
ball and recovered the ball on the ten yard line,
and then the quarterback made a good passing ends on
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and that got us up fourteen to three. But uh,
them boys just they were ten times bigger than our guys, man,
and it never gave up, you know, and then we
want it and overtime, yeah, now we got to be
if you know.
Speaker 6 (39:13):
But our nephew is the kicker. He's the punter for
Taylor County.
Speaker 4 (39:18):
Oh no, I didn't. He can punt the ball too.
Speaker 6 (39:24):
He averaged over over forty yards of punt.
Speaker 4 (39:28):
Wow that game, yeah, that's yeah.
Speaker 6 (39:30):
And the NFL averages forty five yards.
Speaker 4 (39:33):
Yeah, we had.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
There was several close calls where he I don't know
how in the world it didn't block it.
Speaker 4 (39:38):
I just I hid my eyes because of the lot.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
It was fisting the block at every time, but he
would get it off and get it down the field.
Speaker 3 (39:44):
Well, I'll tell you what your nephew ought to be
getting a call from FSU.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
I'm just saying, well, you technically don't want to have
to use the punter black once or twice the game.
Speaker 3 (39:55):
Just stop it. Stop it already.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
When you field goal kickers, manfs she does got a
field goal kickery.
Speaker 3 (40:04):
Fifty nine yards, he knock it out of the park.
But when you got a young person in high school
kicking forty yards forty five yards pressive, that's a future
fifty nine yard kicker right now.
Speaker 4 (40:15):
He kicks the field goals too, does he does? He
kick the field goals too?
Speaker 6 (40:19):
Uh? Yeah? And he uh so, he's a I hate
to say this, but he's a Gator fan. But he
did go to Norvell's kicking camp.
Speaker 3 (40:30):
Well, that Norvell's kicking camp.
Speaker 4 (40:32):
Yeah's kicking.
Speaker 3 (40:33):
That sounds like somewhere they played Band Joe. It's like
an ice cream barler.
Speaker 6 (40:40):
Oh, Hey, hey, it take It takes a Florida State
coach to teach a Gator fan how to kick a football.
Speaker 3 (40:47):
Here we go, Here we go.
Speaker 4 (40:51):
Man, I didn't even gonna say what I was gonna say.
I'm just gonna leave it today.
Speaker 3 (40:55):
No, please say it's your show.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
Well I didn't drive across the pond and get my
book by Georgia Tech either.
Speaker 5 (41:02):
WHOA.
Speaker 3 (41:04):
Man, that's sad right there.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
That should have been a guaranteed win. But them boys
come to play. I mean that defense wasn't joking. They
were playing for the national championship. Georgia Tech was, you know, Wenday.
Speaker 3 (41:17):
And I watched that game in the theater over here
by Costco. Uh we we uh uh find if you
don't mind me mentioning the Chris Kraft Chris Peter Krabb.
They're always doing great things for the community. And they
did a fundraiser and got the ESPN agreement to air
the game on the theater screen. So we went to
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the theater. We got a couple of tickets and went
to the theater and we got to watch a game
in there. I'm gonna tell you something, brother, I know
you can watch a game in your living room and
your recliner and all that, But until you watched one
on a movie screen. That was amazing.
Speaker 5 (41:54):
What the this that?
Speaker 3 (41:55):
It's the CMX over there by Costco off of Man
and you're comfortable. Well, not only they got reclined, man,
you can get on a little app and order and
they bring you your food. They can order anything, food
and drinks, uh cold beer, whatever you want and they'll
bring it right to your seat. What And they got
trays like and hey, man, like TV trays. That's what
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really got me. I was like, I look at Wendoy.
I said, look, Whendy, they got like trains like TV
trays and all, but they go in your cup holder
and you can swing them around to get out of
the chair in the chair and everything. Man, it was
like top notch. I told Wendy. I said, no, this
is the way to watch game right.
Speaker 4 (42:33):
Here, buddy.
Speaker 2 (42:36):
They probably didn't watch half of it. He's probably sleep
with popcorn hanging out.
Speaker 3 (42:39):
No, come on, man, Nah, I actually a shame on me.
But I run into an old friend and and I
didn't recognize him. It's been so many years and he's
sitting right beside me. And I looked over and I said, yeah,
I sell some of those sports and and he goes, yeah.
Speaker 4 (42:55):
No I know.
Speaker 3 (42:57):
And I went hello, I said, are you And he
told me that he goes, he goes, I know who
you are. I said, well, I said, I apologize, but
it's been a long time, you know, but uh we
had a great time. And you know the Craft brothers,
they always man, they just do so much for the community,
they really do. They always give him back.
Speaker 2 (43:19):
Well that's good, and uh, I hate to change. I
hated to bring football up to y'all.
Speaker 4 (43:23):
I really did.
Speaker 5 (43:24):
I mean it was.
Speaker 4 (43:25):
It was a sore subject. Now it's probably that time
of year.
Speaker 2 (43:28):
It could be a sore subject for us this weekend
against Miami and them Canes.
Speaker 4 (43:32):
Watching that game.
Speaker 5 (43:33):
That's gonna be a good one.
Speaker 4 (43:34):
That's gonna go either way.
Speaker 6 (43:35):
Now that's one I'm be embursed about.
Speaker 5 (43:37):
Kenny. Are you a gater of Florena State.
Speaker 6 (43:39):
Fans Florida State?
Speaker 3 (43:42):
He's Florida State seminole. He's a savage, that's what my
friend Baul calls him. He goes because he's a Gator fan.
I told him, I said, Bobby, I said, still some
of the old sports. I have no other choice. Brother,
I said, I got to back the team that backs me.
I said, but at the in the big picture of
it all, he looks at me and goes, they're savages.
Speaker 2 (44:04):
I rooting for him as long as they ain't playing
the Gators. But now I will put on a shirt
if my young goes to that college and plays.
Speaker 4 (44:11):
For him, I will, you will, I wear it and
I'll support him. But I don't want to, but I will.
Speaker 3 (44:17):
A great story.
Speaker 6 (44:19):
But who was he cheering for on Saturday?
Speaker 3 (44:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (44:22):
Where Georgia Tech?
Speaker 3 (44:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (44:24):
Oh, I was just ruffling feathers. I saw part of football.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
I got on Facebook and says, you know, it's time
to start it. Let's go, Let's go to all them,
all them seminoles want to attack him.
Speaker 3 (44:37):
You know, boy, that's.
Speaker 4 (44:40):
The best time of the year.
Speaker 2 (44:41):
Like I said, though, you know we all get to
It's fishing, hunting season, primetime football season.
Speaker 4 (44:46):
I mean, what's right? What better can you ask for?
That's right?
Speaker 5 (44:49):
Well, it was Orange State Monday night.
Speaker 3 (44:51):
It was a beautiful weekend.
Speaker 5 (44:53):
They played Monday night.
Speaker 3 (44:55):
Oh yeah, they do. They play Monday night.
Speaker 4 (44:57):
They playing Monday night.
Speaker 5 (44:58):
That team that looks like that has the same kind
of colors in college.
Speaker 3 (45:02):
I was waiting for the college that team that looks
like I was like, hello, where are we going with
this one?
Speaker 2 (45:10):
Goodness, well, Kenny, man, it was good talking with Widge
and everything. Brother, And you know you'll be safe coming
back from up there. And I hope y'all have a
good weekend and good holiday weekend at that.
Speaker 6 (45:20):
And uh yeah, I appreciate y'all too, And uh.
Speaker 4 (45:23):
It was a good hollow at you, brother. We'll talk
to you rock on man, rock right.
Speaker 2 (45:32):
Where you couldn't say that that's a control of the button.
Speaker 4 (45:36):
That was good.
Speaker 2 (45:37):
But yeah, man, it's it's gonna be a good weekend.
Like I said, it's opening football. So you know, the
fishing is getting better.
Speaker 3 (45:44):
Getting better, fishing, hunting, football, cooler air, people start calming
down and quick cussing at each other. And because the
heat done drove everybody crazy this summer. I swear the
heat has been so bad.
Speaker 5 (45:59):
Did you find less people start going out on the
water down there on the coast. Well, as he gets
in the hunting season, he freeze up.
Speaker 4 (46:05):
Yeah, yeah up here.
Speaker 3 (46:07):
And I'm will tell you something. Oh uncle Bill's out here, brother.
Speaker 4 (46:12):
We are out of time for this week, guys.
Speaker 2 (46:13):
Hey, y'all stay tuned, and we appreciate y'all listening to
us on ninety six five Spirit.
Speaker 1 (46:17):
You've been listening to The Big Bend Outdoor Show with
Joel Baldry. Join us every Saturday morning at eight am
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