September 21, 2024 • 47 mins
This is the Big Bend Outdoors Show with Joel Baldree
Original Airdate 09.21.24
Today's guests include: Captain Paul Tyre, Captain Kenny Mullins, and Captain Tanner Schwabb.
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Original Airdate 09.21.24
Today's guests include: Captain Paul Tyre, Captain Kenny Mullins, and Captain Tanner Schwabb.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is the Big Bend Outdoor Show with Joel Baldry.
Today's guest include Captain Tanner Swab, Captain Paul Tier, Captain
Kenny Mullins. Here's your host, Joel Baldry.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Welcome to the Big Ben Outdoor Show. It's a beautiful
Thursday Saturday morning. We got mister Tanner Swab with us,
Captain Tanner Swab, and we got Captain what's your all
time playing? Dale's in a meeting Dale. They're gonna be
in here to tell us about his fishing lives he's got.
(00:35):
But Tanner's gonna give us a little rundown on what
the tides are doing this weekend.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
It's gonna be a high tide early early in the
morning Saturday, at four point fifty am, it's gonna be
a three point eight, and then it's gonna be low
about twelve fifteen, a negative point two, so gonna have
four foot of movement there from early early in the
morning till about lunchtime.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
What's the Sunday fish to be.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
It's gonna be a high tide at five fifteen in
the morning three point eight, pretty much the same tide
just an hour later.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Man the gust is gonna be a little high Saturday.
You know, it's up to sixteen three to eight throughout
the day, but uh in the morning, and then you know, afternoon,
you know, around one or two o'clock it starts going
the gus start dying back down to around nine. Other
than that, it's gonna be a pretty pretty day. It's
the temperature is supposed to be a high sixty nine
(01:31):
or not high sixty nine, lower sixty nine Saturday morning,
high eighty eight, and it's supposed to drop down into
you know, sixty eight Sunday morning, and then you know,
high of eighty eight. So we getting in the fall weather.
It's starting to turn around.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
Yeah, it's cool.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
You know, the tithes is changing up tremendously. You know,
we're getting into the bigger tides, the temperatures dropping. So yes,
you know what that says about our flat.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
Wes y'all's water temperature.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
I honestly didn't check it Sunday. I went out fishing Sunday,
and I'm sure you didn't check it either.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
I don't ever check it.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
No, but I'm sure it's in in the mid seventies,
maybe lower. You know, it's probably closer to seventy four,
seventy five degrees.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
Yeah, we're up around seventy seven, seventies in the morning,
seventy six gets up about seventy eight. Now seeing some
nineties we got coming back, yeah, you know what I
mean next week.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Yeah, so that's how a boost everything. It's gonna fluctuate
right now.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
But that's right.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
The thing about it is, like I said, it's starting
to drop. You know, you ain't got them high nineties
and one hundred degree temperature, yes, to make it up
there in the nineties. So that's right. You know, it
shows a high it don't it don't even get up
to ninety you know, even all next week. I'm showing
up till you know, next Saturday is you know, high
eighty five. So yeah, seventy degrees. It's just it's gonna
(02:45):
get that time of year. But we are getting a
lot of rain. And that's that's the thing that concerns
me is because the water is dark, murky out there,
and we don't need that when it comes, you know,
down town to the fall fishing when it gets real cold,
we need it clear, you know, getting them fish. It
ain't got to be so much clear, just you know,
the rain's got to quit for at least a month
(03:07):
to get back right now, because that water is flowing.
I mean, it's it's real dark. It's like, you know,
the real dark tea. So we got to get that
order straightened out. And I'm hoping, I'm hoping and praying
that it does, you know, for you know, not only
that's just the businesses around there. If that water ain't
right and them traut ain't and the river in the creeks,
guess what, ain't everybody locking their money and ain't nobody catching.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
There's a storm coming off to U Catan. Yeah, he
ain't that can affect us. It's too far out in it.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
It's too far out to tell. I mean, you know,
that's what it's supposed to be here middle of next week, Thursday, Friday,
something like that. So, I mean, that's that's a concern.
But as of right now, they don't know where it's
gonna go. They won't know till probably, you know, Monday
or Tuesday, about what path it's gonna take. Because if
you look at the spaghetti models now, it's just showing
it all over Florida, all over well, yeah, in the
(03:58):
big Bend, right here coming at a and and you
know there's a few of them showing the words pennsilcol area.
And then you know, you go further west, so they
don't know, but they get a pinpointed. You can bet
your butt when you know two or three days and
the bat order is gonna hit at And that's what
you know. I thinking about the weather people is you know,
(04:18):
everybody's like way they you know, they ain't They ain't really,
I said, Man, they're doing all they can do. And
at least they got it to this point where if
you can't leave Florida in a day, something's wrong anyway,
you know what I mean. So they give you, you know,
two or three days advance a warning to leave. But
it ain't nothing to play with. I mean, the water
temp's still high out there, so I mean the storms
can build, and that's what you gotta look at. And
(04:39):
you gotta look at the pressure. When that pressure starts
dropping on that storm, that means it's gonna get ugly.
It's it's a strong storm, and that's what you gotta
worry about. So, like I said, it's up in the air.
We'll we'll figure out when it gets to that point. Yeah,
you're saying, I got a snapchat in my phone. I
didn't turn it down. I know you're gonna say something,
but I'm just hoping and praying. Like I said, Yeah,
(05:00):
I don't wish it on nobody, but we don't need
it in Florida. That's all I got said. But how's
how's the water clarity and everything around you?
Speaker 4 (05:07):
You know, from that rain we had a week ago.
It's got a little bit of stained to it, but
everything's still good up there. You know, we've had no
rain for a while, and it finally got some rain
above us, and it's got a little bit of color
to the way to the lake. It's got a little
stained to it, but it's definitely got things starting to
move forward to bass bit pretty good this week, and
and as that order temperature keeps dropping, it's going to getting.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Better and batter I didn't turn my phone down again,
Oh you didn't. Everybody, mine's always turned down. For what
I bet dal is yours turn downtamer Mine's always turned down.
I'll come on turned down. Well, I mean so that
and so that's you know, that's two different places, like
you know, on the coastline and everything else in the lake.
(05:47):
It's it's you know, you would think it would be
close to being the same, not that far apart, what
will be an hour and a half two hours, yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
Well not that far yeah about our hour iron twenty minutes.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Yeah, and you know all that rain is coming by
you from Georgia and everywhere else. So we still ain't
got that rain, you know, that water yet. So that's
what takes so long. When it ain't what we get
in our you know, in our area, that's what we
get above us. Yeah, that's the same way with us too.
When they get ten inches up there, it's time we
got in here or not. It's coming through our you know,
(06:19):
our waters down Yeah, So I just we play it
by ear man. I just hope that it wasn't like
it was last year, because we had a rough fishing
season last year. I mean the red fish course never quit.
Sheep had never quit. But something about them trout when
it comes to that that tannic acid water and even mullet.
The mullet didn't want to come into the river like
(06:39):
they've been coming in the river. So I'm hoping and
praying that we don't we don't have all that fresh
water when it comes down to time to get going
in the thirties and forties, well when they should be
piling up in there and they're not because of the
fresh water. So, uh, Tanner, what what you got to
say about all this well and tides and everything and
(07:02):
what's going on? You're end well.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
On Monday, I went out. I went out osall the
river and went out on the afternoon on the falling tide,
and I pulled up on a point and I liked
to fish out there, actually a new spot I've been scouting.
And as I was getting all my gear tied up,
I had a lot of bait jumping on to my
lift on the gulf side over there, and I had
(07:25):
red fish tailing and swirling and eating bait on my lift.
So I wasn't close enough to where I needed to
be the cast to him. So I had to get
down in the water without cranking the air boat up
and scattering the fish off. So I got in and
I drugged the boat over and I anchored back off,
and I threw top water and they struck it twice,
(07:46):
but they never would take it. And I threw two
more times and didn't get anything. So I swapped over
to a different bait and threw out drug it back
across air and I hung at nineteen itch red fish.
Did it again after I put him back, caught another
nineteen thatch red fish, and then the bait slowly started
moving down the coast to the east and it just
turned off.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
What bait are you in situated?
Speaker 3 (08:09):
You used Tanner Old Lives, Trimp Live trip.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Muh? Whose bait as that Tanner? It's my fat Uh?
What a top order was using? Was using that? YEASII?
Speaker 3 (08:27):
No, I was using a ball white super spook had
a little feather tied on his tail right there. Yeah,
once you know about the super spook O, I know
about a little super spook.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
That bone was my favorite color. I've had a lot
of luck out of the bone. Was he using the junior?
Speaker 3 (08:43):
It was using the It was a Spook Jr.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Yeah, the junior is what I usually use. I use
that big one every now and then that jokers, you know,
six seven inches long. It seems like that junior about
three or four inches. But some reason I have better
luck with the with the junior versus using the big boy.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
It's just a smaller bait and it's easier for fish.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
To catch. So yeah, but you know as well as
I do. It's just like I always mess with my
youngins and stuff. We fishing in the summertime, fishing with
a piece of cup bait. They're all like getting a
little short pieces of that. Boy, the bigger that cup
bait is the bigger fish. And I've had them dive
you twenty inch red fish when big o'hunks of bait
just whether to have a big one. It's just the
looking to draw that jerker's coming by there. If he's hungry,
(09:24):
he's try to eat it all. That's how big it is.
But yeah, man, like I said, the water, don't never
the dark water, don't never start the red fish. The
red fishes, it's just like a hog. Like I said, Anyway,
they're there and they're gonna eat when they're hungry. They
don't make a dang fat. Water is dark, clear whatever.
(09:45):
It's a good thing about the the darker water is
the fish don't get to spook as much when you
pull up on them. But saying that, I've run right
through them in a creek and look over the side
and see them spin around real quick and throw to them.
It's like by bam, So everybody that talks about all
you scattered a fish, you scattered this. I mean, yeah,
(10:06):
it ain't that many fish there to begin with. Yeah
you can scatter them, but if you went a school
of fish in the wintertime and stuff like that, wintertime
fishing and them deep poles and stuff, you're not gonna
scatter on them fish. And they hungry, they're there fur,
there to eat, they're looking for you know, bait to
eat and everything else. You're not gonna pay. No, they're
not gonna pay you. No mine. You run over the
top of them. They full of crap. And I and
(10:27):
I'll call out anybody that you know says that, because
I've done done it several times. And I may not
catch as much must trout as most people, but uh,
I can tell you one thing of red fish I
can catch them. Ain't nothing to catch fifty to one
hundred a day during the wintertime. Yeah that's on a
bad day, fifty. So they say what they want to.
I mean, I know a little bit about the red fishing,
(10:48):
but not much about trout fishing. But the red fish
I can catch. Wow. So what do you got to
say about that tanner about spooking fish?
Speaker 3 (10:57):
I agree with you. When I come in, I don't.
I always try not to run over where I'm going
to be fishing at. I try to come around it
or up on the grass line or the point or wherever.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
It's Okay, Ben Settler, let's hear it. I had to
call him out like that. That's an inside jake with
Ben ever talking about scattering the fish.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
But no, you can pull up on a hole or wherever,
and usually the fish are actually lay in the bottom
of the hole. So if you're pulling up on the
outside of it or whatever, they're not blowing out of there.
I pulled up on one, throw a bait over, you know,
and thirty seconds later you got a fish.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
But the main thing is what I'm what I mean
by I'm talking about scattering fish. If you got three
fish there and you run over top of them, yeah,
you're probably gonna scatter them three fish, yeah, all three
of them. But if you got twenty or thirty fish
there and you run over the top of them, yeah,
five or six may leave, ten may leave, but they're
coming right back to that spot because that's where you
know their hangout is. I don't care, Like I said,
(11:54):
I've spun around, run through them, see them scatter, spin
around like let's see anything else left there? And everybody
on a pole. Boom boom, boom bom on the boat,
double up, triple up.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
Now how you see him?
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Huh?
Speaker 4 (12:05):
You see him with your eyes?
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Yeaes and them My eyes are sending awake. But we
gotta go to a quick commercial then we'll get back
on it. All right, welcome back to the Outdoors show.
You got tenor of her show and Paul a video
him catching a fish right there, and Paul was like, yeah,
(12:28):
it's taking drag, I said, because you've got that Mickey
Mouse and a fishing he uses four. Don't let him lie, no,
But you know we're talking about the fishing and the
biggest red fish. The biggest red fish I've ever caught
was I think thirty eight thirty nine inches. And you
(12:49):
know that was during you know, April starting to May.
That's prime time, you know, used cup bait and everything else,
you know, during the summertime around the Morster bars. And
I've I've had several you know, several caught off my boat,
but that's the biggest I've ever caught. Now, I did
have the we had the window warriors. What two years ago. Yeah,
(13:10):
we had a boy, a combat ringe called actual legal redfish.
He was twenty six. He was right at twenty seven.
He was probably a quarter inch twenty seven. But that
joker weighed ten pounds and I've caught eight four is
my personal best weight size, right legal weight size. But
(13:32):
my dad's caught a nine to three and uh, you
know that's that's really unheard of. And he was twenty
seven on the money. But I've never caught one that
wasn't even you know, a quarter inch from twenty seven
don't seem like much, but that's that's a bunch of
red fish weight wise. Well, but I measured him, weighed him,
measured him again. Yeah, I said, something ain't right. My
(13:54):
scales is off any ten pounds. I ain't never seen
red fish ten pounds at twenty six, you know, yeah,
you know, almost twenty seven inches long. And I took
him to a buddy mine's house before we took him
up to their place to clean them. And you know,
cause we had a fish fry for the warriors up
there at Rigoni, I said, wait his fish. He took
(14:14):
his scale out, you know, and he waited. He said
that joker is over, and I said, no, he ain't.
He said, I bet you twenty dollars. And he stuck
him up or to the scale or the measuring stick.
We all got them bump sticks, you know. He stuck
him up there and he look, he pulled him up,
looked at his nose, make sure that smashed his nose,
you know, trying to find a way. He picked him
(14:35):
back up and waited him again. He said, that's the
biggest red fish I've ever seen caught. You know, that's legal.
And they had that twenty thousand dollars tournament in that
Red Fish Series tournament going on in stan Hatchie. I said, Dad, again,
we ought to run on them guy down telling him
give us a thousand dollars. Give it to him dollars
right there. One wow, and that you know, that's unheard of.
Like I said, I've caught some big fish. And I
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tell you because I don't fish that area no more.
It's around Yates Creek, and I hope you know that's
Kenny's fishing areas. We got boats over the mars there
on top of each other. You know. Yates Creek has
been real good to me in the tournaments. I've won
a lot of tournaments and finishing and talked, you know,
two or three off of Yates Creek. There's been some
(15:19):
real big something about that little bend right there. There's
been some real big fishing. They gang up in there,
They gang up in the little cove. But now there's
so many people fishing it, it's got them scattered. Yeah,
you got boats running everywhere. Man, it's it's one thing.
But you by yourself, you ain't gonna hurt them fish.
They coming back now unless there's very few there. I
(15:39):
can understand that one. You know, the fishes scattered, but
when they grouped up light in the wintertime, you ain't
hurting them jokers by running over them. If you do
give it five minutes, they'll be right back to the
same area. You throw a lot of shrimp down there,
your polls, they doubled over the whole time. Do you
get ready to leave? That's the onlyest bad thing about
the wintertime fishing is they bite so good. Just this
(16:00):
past year, the red fish, they were biting so good.
We didn't even have to put a gulp or anything
on our hooks, were just catching them on a hook,
a bear hook, a bear hook with a jighead with
a red color, pink color whatever. They were just biting
the bike. I thought my young one was joking with me.
He said, I just caught one on the bait. I'm like,
you know right, And he said I did, and said
(16:20):
watch this, and he threw back out there and bumped
a couple of times and bam, and I seen, Hi
didn't put no bait on her this, So I know
it wasn't fibbing me. But and I've heard, you know
a few other people talking about that. They just hitting
everything that moves. You know, when they get down in
them holes and they get cold, gold they want to move.
You got something come by you, Yeah, you're gonna hit
at it. So what it is? So when they hit
that hook and you snatched just right, guess what you
(16:42):
got him? You got him. And that's that's the whole
thing about, you know, winter fishing. Them jokers under the cold.
They're hungry, you know, they just want they want to
eat something. And you go up there with ain't no
water and you running there with that air boat in
the back of that creek and got a deep pole.
You fishing the fishing. I'm gonna tell them, how they've
been trapped there? Wow? And the anything like me? After
(17:03):
about three four hours, I want, I'm gonna do whatever
I got.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
What's your biggest red fish tenner?
Speaker 3 (17:11):
Twenty seven twenty seven ever caught?
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Yeah? Wow? Wow? Twenty seven on the money or did
you smash him?
Speaker 3 (17:17):
No, he was twenty seven on the money. I didn't
keep him. I put him back and uh. The biggest
trout I ever caught was the twenty five inch trout.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
What's a big one? What'd you catch that one?
Speaker 1 (17:27):
On?
Speaker 3 (17:28):
Love shrimp?
Speaker 4 (17:29):
Bve shrimp?
Speaker 2 (17:31):
And you know it was twenty seven or twenty eight,
the biggest trout I ever caught. But the biggest one
I ever had on my boat, I think it was
twenty nine or thirty, I can't remember. We caught two.
One of them was twenty nine, I think, and he
was actually heavier than the thirty inch trout. The thirty
was like real poor, I mean it, yeah, real long,
you know. But the twenty nine, and believe it or not,
(17:53):
the biggest heaviest trout I ever had was twenty seven inches.
You know, it's six and a half pounds. And that
was called I think I believe that was called off
of a white cup I remember correctly. But like I said,
it don't matter when you when you get the fall fishing,
everything changes from summer summer the kind of picky you're
(18:15):
gonna want wintertime. Man, if it's in there and they
hungry it, don't you.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
Find fresh water.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
You can make a golp up and say this is
the Joel got no use it. It's gonna work. And
people some people would believe that like that good they
are about in that decker. I want to buy a
whole case something. But now they're just hungry, man. But
that's what's good about it, especially for the older people
and stuff, and the people that don't have much knowledge fishing.
They take the kids out there and they get on
(18:44):
them fish like that. The kids won't never forget it.
They won't never forget it, and they're gonna come back, of course,
and the kids is gonna talk about it. So that's
what I really enjoy, taking them guys, you know, out
there and putting them on a bunch of fish like
I do in them creeks, because especially young and young
I won't never live. And now that might cost the
parents a lot more money in the long run, I'm
(19:05):
my dad. We got to get a boat. We got
we gotta get this boat, get this fishing pole. You know,
that's the way it's got to be.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
But that's a good thing.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
That's a good thing out everybodying dope off the street.
They ain't stilling out of somebody's house. They wanting to fish, right,
So that's all that matters to me.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
That's the season we're going into. The fishing and the hunting.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
The hunting. All your time, the hunting, The hunting's kicking off.
Your boy, ready to get out there in the woods. Honestly,
one of them. Now, Tyson, he's whatever Daddy wants to do. Now.
He has mentioned he said, am I gonna get to
shoot one this year? I said yes, So I said,
I'm on, you know, crossbow, We're gonna try to get
your own one. He says, okay, Daddy, I said, you
know how to hit him? He said, right behind the shoulder.
(19:43):
I said, so, I'm kind of curious. You know, he's
five and and he's excited. Dude, he could be still
when he wants to. If it's something that he wants
to do, yeah, he'll be quiet me still. But if
it's something I'm entertaining and doing. He ain't gonna be
quiet me. He's gonna make all kind of racket and
are we going yet? I'm bored. But if it's something
(20:04):
to do with him, you know, getting to kill something
or catch something, he's all about that for at least
three or four hours until it don't happen. We're going out.
But that's why I'm ready to take him out there.
And I'm my oldest boy. He's big into football right now,
so he ain't had time to do much or nothing
but football. All about football now, Cole. He's he's out
there bow hunting and chasing. You know, of course, you're
(20:26):
sixteen seventeen years old, you chasing little girls and you
ain't got time to spend time with daddy. Daddy's out
the window when at that age, so you can't really
tell him much nothing. But I do know one thing.
His little girlfriend will be lonely Saturday morning opening the
dog season. He'll be in the woods when them dogs
and hounds in the back of the truck. And that's
going to be the test of the test with his girlfriend. Now,
(20:49):
let's see see how that's gonna work out. But I'm
sure she'll be right here with him. I'm teasing y'all.
Y'all listen to me on ready, don't y'all go back
and tell a little owd bride that I'm talking smack
because I ain't. She'll be right truck with him. But Tanna,
what you got coming up? You doing any hunting or
have you been? You just went hunting?
Speaker 3 (21:06):
And I went to Arkansas two weekends ago. Shot some
geese out there, and uh, we got musluding coming up.
That's where generally when I get fired up, I don't
go bout and I'll go in musloading season and old.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Now you got to tell us about the Arkansas trip?
What about it? What did y'all do? What y'all?
Speaker 3 (21:28):
We shot some Canadian geese. It was early good season,
and uh we shot almost a limit on Saturday and
we were like too shy of a limit. And then
Sunday morning we went and shot a dove field and
we shot thirty two between eight of us.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Yeah, you wasn't last year. You wasn't here last weekend
when we've done a radio show with you, what was you? Yeah,
that's right. We talked about the geese, that's right. We
did talk about the geese hunting. I forgot about that.
I was in the parking lot right every where they
followed you down here eating the marons, that's right? And
what were you fishing? You talking about going hunting somewhere?
Speaker 4 (22:05):
Else?
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Where's you going hunting out Utah?
Speaker 3 (22:08):
I've got the opportunity to go elk hunting in Utah?
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Wow? Can you give that tag up to somebody else?
Speaker 3 (22:13):
I don't know about that. It's a rifle bull elk tag.
And we're supposed to be packing in with about seven
or eight horses and mules, and it's a fourteen day
total trip, about ten days of hunting, and you have
to pack in thirteen miles one way, and you have
a base camp, and you hunt off your base camp,
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and then at the end of the trip, if you've
killed elk, you have to pack meat out and camp
out one day, pack back in, stay the night, and
then pack the rest of camp out the next day. Wow,
back down the mountain.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
How cold is it first to be an?
Speaker 3 (22:48):
It could be anywhere from five degrees to fifty two degrees?
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Hello, hello Joe freezing. Yeah, I'm not there. I just
took a picture in my head, right, I just don't
see me showing up in that photograph thirteen miles one
way and going out and look my roughness at the
holiday in something. I can't find a remote, that's my
(23:14):
rough in it. No, you got a l I v
I m oh no, that's why I back in the
western days in the.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
Bottle huh living.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
I mean that would be fun. Don't get me wrong.
When I get cold, if I ever ge get cold
on that trip, I want to get somewhere I get warm.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
Yeah, I don't see fire.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Yeah, sometimes I.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
Don't work there can of cheft ad right, been kicking high?
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Come on now, I said, and you going.
Speaker 4 (23:44):
Why can you take Joe Wee?
Speaker 2 (23:47):
He could go. I'll stay behind at the hotel, Riven
go to the bar. Very nothing they get back. I'll
cut the meat up. Yeah, what far do you tos?
Speaker 4 (24:00):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Northeastern Utah? Hey, guys, you'all heard the story going on
about Utah. Will be right back with Joe at this person.
All right, guys, welcome back to the Big Ben outdoor show.
We got Captain Kenny Mullins on the line and Captain
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Tanner Swabs here in the studio. Were missing Paul Tyre.
I think you got to go to the little boys
room up there. He comes back in right now. Was
you in the bathroom? Sir? H we're live right now.
Just to let you know. Radedar stuff on the phone's
on the phone right. He been wanting to talk to
you for like an hour. He's been asking where you
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at the whole time. I say, he's a no show
like always.
Speaker 5 (24:47):
I had the swamp places with Tanner.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Spot Now I guess, yeah, yeah, Tanner Tanner can't catch
no fish. So he's o there trying to follow me.
The other day, Kenny and had a drone and everything.
Can't try his fishing.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
That lies.
Speaker 5 (25:02):
I was worried about that when I posted those pictures
of red fish the other day.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Yeah, you got to watch him. He's got that new drone.
Now he can get like eight miles one way. That's
that's not true.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
You got two miles djiant dj.
Speaker 5 (25:22):
I got one of those.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
Yeah, they're nice.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Man, he's got it.
Speaker 5 (25:25):
I need to learn how to use it. I can
teach you.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
I can fly now. Well, we can't figure out for
real though, how how do you make it follow you?
We can make it zone in on you wherever you move,
it moves, but how do you like if you go
to walking.
Speaker 5 (25:42):
Yeah, I'll send it to you how to do it.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
We couldn't get that part figured out. I run around
the parking lot to that run out of breath and
it was but now that's the only part we need
to figure out.
Speaker 5 (25:53):
Yeah, yeah, I'll help you all out with that was what.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Was so important that you couldn't be at the today?
What was you doing?
Speaker 5 (26:02):
So I had a meeting about some dogs, and then
Pat McGriff and I Captain Pat McGriff and I were
supposed to go snook fishing, but they ended up opening
the locks on the on the river on us. So
we're on the coming from the lake to the river
and it's not good conditions now, so we had to
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bail on it.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
Oh so you could have been at the show. Yeah,
making excuses for mister Pat.
Speaker 5 (26:29):
Well, you know, I had to try to take care
of him. He's he's never caught a snook in his
life and he's getting out there.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
Now. Come on, now, I know Pat mcgriffs caught everything
under the sun. Are you telling me he never caught
a snook?
Speaker 5 (26:43):
He's never caught a snook. I tried to get him
on one last year, and uh he hooked up on
one and we saw no exaggeration. Five hundred to one
thousand in one creek. He'll tell you it was insane.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Why didn't y'all throw a cast in it and then
hook one of his hook? And then y'all and tell
y'all was like how you want to and how the
fisherman works. You know how you always got your clients
stretching their arms out and making the red fish look bigger.
Speaker 5 (27:11):
That's how all still outlaws does. Now when he.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Has this, we just got the game warders taking her nets.
Speaker 5 (27:21):
Oh, I said, when he has that, When he has it,
that's the key thing.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
When I have nets.
Speaker 5 (27:29):
So have you been doing any fishing?
Speaker 2 (27:31):
I went Sunday Sunday I took some kids out and uh,
it's going back, and uh we caught We caught a
bunch of red fish, caught a few small trout, nothing
to brag about, but we did catch them all in
the creeks once again, though, I mean, I imagine you
know this weekend. This weekend, like I was telling them,
it's gonna be sixty eight high eighty eight, so that
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temperature is gonna be dropping a little bit more so
that's gonna push him on in further. But I don't
know what this fresh water's gonna do.
Speaker 5 (28:00):
Yeah, it go either way there. But I know on
our end, uh, around Keaton area, the trout have have
pushed in a little. We've been we've been catching limits
of trout in in the three to four foot range.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
And so that's been going on a while. Heading or
was y'all catching them deeper over there and then shaller
our way?
Speaker 5 (28:24):
It was? It was deeper around Keaton, you know, closer
you got to Keaton, the deeper they got to that
six to nine foot range. And then as we started
moving towards your ways, when we got shallower and shallower.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
Yeah, I couldn't. I mean, was it two or three
weeks ago? I was telling you, I'll catched them in
the mouth of the creeks legal trout. I mean, they
weren't very big, but they were you know, in between
side you know, anywhere from fifteen to nineteen inches.
Speaker 5 (28:48):
The trout and all of our all of our reds
are are kind of already in that fall staging zone.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
Wow, and you know they're starting to you know, this
time of the year, really, I want to say mid
October you'll start sending them real super they look like
a goldfish almost so so colored up. The red fish
they get real pretty in the wintertime.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
The ones I call it Monday. They were all that
copper color.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
That copper color, that copper gold. Yeah something about it, man,
And that the tails would be like a greenish blue.
Speaker 5 (29:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
Eat a lot of crabs and crustaceans.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
Is that what it is? Changing the color? Yep? Yeah,
how do you know that?
Speaker 4 (29:31):
I just know.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
How do you know that?
Speaker 5 (29:33):
Can you that that is true? They do? That's that's
when they're eating more crab.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Who told you that?
Speaker 5 (29:38):
It's just kind of magazine.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
At least you can answer it. I just know you read.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
That's what it's going to tell you.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Man. But yeah, they and see the red fish, Like
I said, they're gonna continue. They're gonna fatten up because
I mean they're gonna sit there and hog everything that
comes through. What a little bit of food they get.
And of course the trap to be starting once again.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
See I'll think the fall feeds starting. It's already started.
Speaker 5 (30:05):
I wouldn't say the fall feet has started yet, but
they're staging.
Speaker 4 (30:10):
Well that's what I'm saying too.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
I'm seeing the end of October. If it keeps going
like it's going to temper toure dropping like it's dropping
getting in the eighties, it'd been the seventy you know,
into October. We'll have a couple of cold confronts come
through in the middle of October, I'm sure. And when
that starts happening, that's when it's gonna get good. And
the rain.
Speaker 5 (30:27):
Yeah, in the last couple of years, we've been like
a month behind. I think this year, I'm hopeful that
it's gonna be back to normal.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
It seems to be on schedule or a little little
maybe even a little head of schedule.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
If you think about it. Them two years we've been behind.
It's because of fresh water. Yeah, rain, rain has killed us.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
Well, we've had more storms than hurricanes in the past,
like this time of year and before you know, up
until now, we really only have the one storm and
we're potentially gonna get the other storm.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
What do you think about that storm next week? Week?
What's it gonna be.
Speaker 5 (31:01):
I haven't even looked.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
You probably don't want to look. It's uh, yeah, I'm
just going with it, and you know, and I'm not
gonna talk about it, right now. But you know why
I'm worried because paper has been signed. Besides them, oh yeah,
besides them finishing theirs up went on. But at the
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same time, here we are in the middle of closing stages.
The hurricane's coming.
Speaker 5 (31:32):
Yeah, you'll be all right, I hope.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
So we needed to go down there around for my
herds or something down there and go across.
Speaker 4 (31:40):
Well, you just don't pull that big boat out on
the trailer, do you.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
Oh yeah, this is this big deal. Oh yeah, it's
got a trailer.
Speaker 5 (31:47):
Now what size is that boat again? Joel four h
forty four.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Yeah, we can't go in a hurricane with her there.
I ain't gonna be out in that light and then
hang it up there when am I?
Speaker 5 (32:00):
Hey, speaking of lightning. I don't know if y'all remember
last year there was a father and daughter hunting in
central Florida and they were both hunting out of a
ground blind and lightning struck the tree that they were
next to and through the father about eight feet and
it ended up killing his daughter. Well this week actually
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it was yeah, this week. His The dad ended up
going out there sitting in the blind where that happened,
and he harvested the deer that his daughter was after. Yeah,
that's a pretty good story.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
Yeah, man, that lightning is real dangerous. And you know,
a lot of people, you know, they they some of
them don't know, a lot of them do know, but
they still do it anyway. Because we're human beings. We're
gonna do what we want to do. But the tree
is the worst thing you could be by. It's just
like a lightning rod. And when it travels that tree,
it's gonna travel the roots. And if that root comes
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up to that ground where you're standing at, guess what
it's coming through you. So the tree is not a
good thing to be by, you know. I know, you
try to use them for cover and everything else when
it comes to a ground blind, but and down there,
it's just you know, it's ten times worse than what
we got it. The lightning gets bad up here around
the Big Ben area, but not like it does down south.
Down South is notorious. It never fails in the summertime
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or even August September starting, there's going to be a
lightning storm about one or two o'clock every day, yell,
and then late afternoons too. So he's got lightning, ain't
nothing to play with it. I've had it hit, you
know not I ain't had a direct hit, but I've
had it hit close enough where it hit the concrete
behind what I was laying on changing the oil fielter
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and it knocked me out the backside of the truck.
And I had a burn mark on my arm and
it felt like somebody hit me in in the private
area with a sledgehammer when it knocked me out from
under the truck. And I couldn't talk for about five
or ten minutes. Hum. So I called my dad when
I finally got my senses back and say, I got
hit by a light Now what I said, Yeah, I
got hit by lightning. He says, you got to go
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to the doctor see if your heart rate. You know,
your heart's still in rhythm. It didn't knock your heart
out of rhythm. So I went to the doctor. She
checked me out and she's like, did you really get
hit by a light And I pulled my shirt up
right and you can see the burn mark down my arm.
She says, I think you did. But like I said,
I wanted to direct hit. It was just through the concrete. Well,
get right behind it, like it hit within six foot
from me. All I seen was a big wall, a light,
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bright light, and a boom so loud. It's like it
about blow my ears out. And that's a scary feeling.
But you know, I said, a lot of people to
get killed by it. They don't ever know that got hit.
I mean it happened so quick.
Speaker 5 (34:40):
Yeah, this kid in that time of year where you know,
more and more peoples in the outdoors hunting, fishing, you know, camping.
You know, weather it's going to start getting right. That
stuff to be mindful of.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
Yeah, no doubt, no doubt. The weather ain't nothing to
play with. It ain't got no mercy on nobody, and
it's gonna do what it's gonna do. That's my mother nature
for you. But you need to be aware stuff. Just
you know, keep in mind. If you're camping, stay away
from trees. You know, don't try to I know you're
trying to get cover and everything outside the sun. But
if you got weather, they're coming up, get up, move
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you know, you know, move away from them trees. Don't
be right up on top of a tree. That's how
a lot of horses and cows get killed. They get
up under that tradition and guess what light it comes
off that tree and kills them. You don't never hear
of a horse down out the middle of field, do
you up? Cow? Well, that's right, you know what I mean.
It can get the ground beside them, but it's always
the ground.
Speaker 4 (35:29):
I was up on Lake Gunnersville and big storm come up,
and I and I went in and I was sitting
up on at a tackle stop at a chairs rocking
chairs out in front. I watched a family come up
and get out of a pond tin boat and walk
by a oak tree and lightning head not everyone, now,
it was crazy.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
We got to go to a quick commercial. Guys, y'all
stay too with us, and y'all be with us on
this final segment. All right, guys, welcome back to the show.
We've been to get into cat fishing stores. Kenny, what's
the biggest catfish you ever caught?
Speaker 5 (36:12):
Mid range?
Speaker 2 (36:14):
Salt water cat? Now, ain't talking about fresh.
Speaker 5 (36:16):
Water, Oh, saltwater. I don't catch those.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
You're such a bad liar, kiddy. It's not this is
not being truthful. I'm gonna tell my size. You gotta
tell your size.
Speaker 5 (36:28):
I honestly, I don't know, probably probably eight or ten pounds.
Sale cat.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
Damn, I dang. I mean, I ain't never caught one
that that was a.
Speaker 5 (36:40):
Big baits, especially big top waters. They will pound them
top orders.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
And that's the salt water cat.
Speaker 4 (36:46):
No, that's fresh water fresh water.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
Mine's probably about eighteen or nineteen.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
And shell cat.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
Really, when did you catch that Monday?
Speaker 5 (36:55):
What was it? About? Six seven pounds?
Speaker 2 (36:59):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
I didn't, but I thought it was a good red fish,
I really did. And when I pulled him in, I
couldn't believe it was a seil cat. That's the first
sel cat I've ever caught. Called lots of the butter
cats or whatever kind of wider yellow cats you want
to call them out here.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
But he caught lots of You heard that? The true
comes out.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
If you say you don't, you're There's two types of
people in the world, people who catch catfish and people
who lie about it.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
And Kenny's one of them.
Speaker 5 (37:26):
Did you eat it?
Speaker 2 (37:28):
Did you eat it?
Speaker 5 (37:29):
No?
Speaker 3 (37:29):
I'm strictly catching release fella right here.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
Now. I will tell you this, Kenny. He went out
there by hisself, and he finally caught three red fish,
and he caught a catfish though by hisself they wouldn't.
I wouldn't.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
On the boat, Kenny, you can confirm this is horse
crap right here now, I caught two nine treads and
a twenty six in tread.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
That's the biggest red fish you've ever caught.
Speaker 3 (37:54):
No, I've caught twenty seven.
Speaker 5 (37:58):
So you told me you went out by yourself caught catfish,
and you told someone about it.
Speaker 4 (38:04):
I'm not.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
I'm an honest feller.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
You don't.
Speaker 5 (38:09):
You just don't have to tell it.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
Yeah, well we were.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
Talking about the biggest catfish we've ever happened to be
the biggest catfish I've ever caught.
Speaker 5 (38:21):
There, you go.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
Usually catch some little ones about seven eight inches long
and cut my hands up me to down off his hook.
Then he begs me not to take a picture of him.
Speaker 5 (38:32):
That's when he's on your.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
Boat right on him.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
Catfish.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
Well, I mean, I ain't mad catch eight catfish and
catch two hundred reds. So I'm saying what y'all want
to about any kind of fishing. But I promise you
right now we'll make a side bed. I catch most
reds out of us three right now.
Speaker 5 (38:55):
They got to be slots.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
Slots I agree with that. Help heck apologize, get me
fired up in her town. But uh we we caught
probably two thirteen that one day with Michael Limm's group.
Uh and probably one hundred and twenty hundred and thirty
on the slots.
Speaker 5 (39:15):
So you're still you're still living on that one day.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
Well son, I don't go fishing all the time because
I catch so many fish. Right, they try to pay
me to stay away from the boat ramp. That way
they got a chance to catch.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
I started clicking his counter right there, and that thing
actually counted by tens.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
Oh boy, that thing about him and j R. They
got to have counters. Know how many they catch? My
people leave reviews right now, eat on our to count
to two hundreds.
Speaker 5 (39:45):
Hey, they leave a review because he gives them a
free blowny sandwiches.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
They hey, whatever it takes, O boy, they lock that
frivele on the sandwich of that bacon and let us
on there. I love Paul. Now, what was you gonna ask?
Let's go ahead get the lines.
Speaker 4 (40:01):
I got my feet up though, Kenny, what's your biggest
personal personal best red fish? And for yourself then for
a customer?
Speaker 5 (40:11):
So my personal best was fifty six inches and out
of duneeding by the duneedon Caugeway. My biggest personal best
here in our local waters was two years ago in October,
and it was forty seven and a half inches. And
the biggest one for a client was forty six inches
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and that was two years ago as well.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
Wow, my meter is going off, can you?
Speaker 5 (40:41):
I mean, hey, hey, I got the pictures.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
The pictures don't prove nothing on the measure.
Speaker 5 (40:47):
Tape when it does when it's on the measures.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
Told the people about how you be telling stories on
here before you got on the phone. They all know
you about, can you, especially the ones around Keaton Beach?
Speaker 5 (41:01):
And hey, if there's one thing I can catch, it's
the red fish.
Speaker 4 (41:06):
Now, what's your biggest trout? Same thing with trout, probably.
Speaker 5 (41:11):
Thirty thirty one inches.
Speaker 2 (41:13):
How much you weigh?
Speaker 5 (41:14):
It was kind of slim. It was nine point eight nine.
Speaker 2 (41:21):
Baby, God's will kind of slimut that.
Speaker 5 (41:30):
Yeah, I'll tell you the story on that one.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
My wife.
Speaker 3 (41:36):
I said, I'm smelling something due.
Speaker 5 (41:40):
I don't know. And pictures on that one too.
Speaker 4 (41:44):
Now this ain't fake news. Now you're telling the true story.
Speaker 5 (41:47):
No, that's true story. There was nine pounds, nine pounds,
nine point eight nine pounds, and uh so the story
behind it. My wife was wolfing my tail for about
two months straight fishing, and I went to the store
and I said, I'm going to find some lure that's
going to beat her today. And we went out.
Speaker 2 (42:07):
Was it?
Speaker 5 (42:07):
And it was when live target shrimp first came out.
Speaker 2 (42:10):
I thought you was about to say unfair.
Speaker 5 (42:13):
No, there was a live target shrimp. I used it
one time. I made the first cast of the day.
I caught that trout and when I got it in,
I left and went. We went straight to the hill
and she said what are you doing? I said, I'm
winning today.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
So you kept that thirut that you preach about not
keeping it? Was?
Speaker 5 (42:32):
It was? It was guilder.
Speaker 3 (42:35):
It was nine pounds, but I had three pounds of
weight on that idiot.
Speaker 5 (42:43):
No, actually I actually hung one even bigger. I guess
this is what about four years ago. And it was
on a mirrored in the twenty seven m R the
Excel size, and my wife went to netted and not
the hook out of its mouth.
Speaker 3 (43:02):
That's what I say to you.
Speaker 5 (43:06):
Yeah, that was that was the hard that story.
Speaker 2 (43:08):
It's my ex wife now, yeah, that day the hook out,
So you did what You didn't follow her through with it.
I followed through with it. That's why I'm going through
court right now. Because she not man just playing. She
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probably got messing around or something. Heydell's watching on't be talking.
Watch What do you got to say about Dale Kenny again?
What was you saying all again?
Speaker 5 (43:45):
He's such a good guy.
Speaker 2 (43:50):
What you said? You said that he couldn't catch no
fish and you always wanted to catch thirty one inch
trout that weighed nine pounds.
Speaker 5 (44:00):
Here?
Speaker 2 (44:00):
What did then say with a three point something?
Speaker 5 (44:03):
You got to put that point eight nine in there?
Makes a difference, So you the one to talk to guys.
Speaker 2 (44:09):
That was Walleye fishing up north. How to put the
wakes in the fish?
Speaker 3 (44:17):
He said, he pleased the fifth.
Speaker 2 (44:21):
That's what he got busted out on because you've never
seen the top of the charts on him.
Speaker 5 (44:25):
No, it's because it's because I stay too busy. I
don't have tournaments.
Speaker 2 (44:31):
Come on, h Kenn, you just don't lie no more
about the fishing now.
Speaker 5 (44:36):
It is fixing to get crazy though. If people want
to book trips, they better book them now. I don't
know about you, guys, but October November is swamped.
Speaker 2 (44:45):
Yeah, it's gonna be busy. November starts mine. I don't
really remember fishing in October, November, December and January and
a little bit of February. I saw that if somebody can't.
Speaker 5 (44:56):
Yeah, I'm like that.
Speaker 2 (44:57):
I'll have one. But I don't do more than three
or four a week. That's all I'm doing.
Speaker 5 (45:01):
Yeah, this is this is my favorite time of the
year to fish.
Speaker 2 (45:04):
Yes, the honest time that you can catch fish if
you have here in my area, fishing in my creeks. Uh,
because the creeks the fish over around Keating Beach. But
you know as well as I do, they no fishing
better in the country between the Fenn Holloway. Well, I
should say Adams Beach and STEINGATCHI but I really.
Speaker 3 (45:23):
Should say, yeah, that's what you should say.
Speaker 2 (45:27):
Yeah, that's what I should say. But now there ain't
no better fishing in the country between the Fenn Holloway
and Saint Mark's.
Speaker 5 (45:34):
I would say you can Saint Mark's where the Fan
and Saint Marks between there. No, don't don't escape out
the kind of all Sila center area there.
Speaker 2 (45:48):
Halloway, Fenn Holloway and the Daggum. What's that other place
everybody likes to go to Spring Warrior. Yeah, Spring Warrior,
that's where I heard all the fish is. That's where
you fish out anywhere, right, And I mean that's where
you tell me you fish at. Are you lying?
Speaker 5 (46:02):
When I fish out that way in the winter. I'm
on the flats though, the shallow flats, but I'm not
on the flats.
Speaker 2 (46:08):
Now.
Speaker 5 (46:08):
You want a good place to go fishing? Pinhook?
Speaker 2 (46:14):
I almost laughed, Well, you gotta fight sixty thousand Georgia
people out of the way to get to that pin
Hook and they're all anchored up on the same wash. Yeah.
So if you want to go through there and have
a sword fight or have you know what's that called
when they run them horses together and you on the back.
Speaker 4 (46:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (46:35):
Yeah, if you want to do that, go to pin Hook,
because they did any of it.
Speaker 5 (46:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (46:41):
Everybody's like, don't talk about that secret creek. What you
talking about? Penhock? How do you know about that? Come on, man, that's.
Speaker 4 (46:49):
Like the grandma.
Speaker 2 (46:51):
Yeah, there's been so many fish caught out of Pinhook
Creek is not even funnywy.
Speaker 5 (46:56):
Have y'all seen any shrimp running?
Speaker 2 (46:58):
No, everybody's telling me that the worst suit sider. Key.
Speaker 5 (47:01):
Yeah, I heard. I heard about that. That's why I
was asking.
Speaker 2 (47:05):
No, I ain't seeing nothing usually that down there piled
up you know this time of the year around stein
hatche and stuff. And yeah, they that'd be making their
way this way.
Speaker 5 (47:13):
Yeah they did two years ago. I didn't get any
last year. Two years ago I got a bunch, but
it was a little earlier in the summer.
Speaker 2 (47:19):
Yeah. I've seen pictures on Facebook today where people have
got them. Well, guess what, Captain Catfish Mullins, we have
run out of time today. I thank everybody for joining
us and maybe that you can make it on time
to the show next week instead of fine take Captain
Patric griff Fishing. Thank you all for tuning on only
on ninety six fives you've.
Speaker 1 (47:39):
Been listening to The Big Bend Outdoor Show with Joel Baldry.
Join us every Saturday morning at eight am on ninety
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This is the Big Bend Outdoor Show with Joel Baldry.
Today's guest include Captain Tanner Swab, Captain Paul Tier, Captain
Kenny Mullins. Here's your host, Joel Baldry.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Welcome to the Big Ben Outdoor Show. It's a beautiful
Thursday Saturday morning. We got mister Tanner Swab with us,
Captain Tanner Swab, and we got Captain what's your all
time playing? Dale's in a meeting Dale. They're gonna be
in here to tell us about his fishing lives he's got.
(00:35):
But Tanner's gonna give us a little rundown on what
the tides are doing this weekend.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
It's gonna be a high tide early early in the
morning Saturday, at four point fifty am, it's gonna be
a three point eight, and then it's gonna be low
about twelve fifteen, a negative point two, so gonna have
four foot of movement there from early early in the
morning till about lunchtime.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
What's the Sunday fish to be.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
It's gonna be a high tide at five fifteen in
the morning three point eight, pretty much the same tide
just an hour later.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Man the gust is gonna be a little high Saturday.
You know, it's up to sixteen three to eight throughout
the day, but uh in the morning, and then you know, afternoon,
you know, around one or two o'clock it starts going
the gus start dying back down to around nine. Other
than that, it's gonna be a pretty pretty day. It's
the temperature is supposed to be a high sixty nine
(01:31):
or not high sixty nine, lower sixty nine Saturday morning,
high eighty eight, and it's supposed to drop down into
you know, sixty eight Sunday morning, and then you know,
high of eighty eight. So we getting in the fall weather.
It's starting to turn around.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
Yeah, it's cool.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
You know, the tithes is changing up tremendously. You know,
we're getting into the bigger tides, the temperatures dropping. So yes,
you know what that says about our flat.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
Wes y'all's water temperature.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
I honestly didn't check it Sunday. I went out fishing Sunday,
and I'm sure you didn't check it either.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
I don't ever check it.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
No, but I'm sure it's in in the mid seventies,
maybe lower. You know, it's probably closer to seventy four,
seventy five degrees.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
Yeah, we're up around seventy seven, seventies in the morning,
seventy six gets up about seventy eight. Now seeing some
nineties we got coming back, yeah, you know what I
mean next week.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Yeah, so that's how a boost everything. It's gonna fluctuate
right now.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
But that's right.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
The thing about it is, like I said, it's starting
to drop. You know, you ain't got them high nineties
and one hundred degree temperature, yes, to make it up
there in the nineties. So that's right. You know, it
shows a high it don't it don't even get up
to ninety you know, even all next week. I'm showing
up till you know, next Saturday is you know, high
eighty five. So yeah, seventy degrees. It's just it's gonna
(02:45):
get that time of year. But we are getting a
lot of rain. And that's that's the thing that concerns
me is because the water is dark, murky out there,
and we don't need that when it comes, you know,
down town to the fall fishing when it gets real cold,
we need it clear, you know, getting them fish. It
ain't got to be so much clear, just you know,
the rain's got to quit for at least a month
(03:07):
to get back right now, because that water is flowing.
I mean, it's it's real dark. It's like, you know,
the real dark tea. So we got to get that
order straightened out. And I'm hoping, I'm hoping and praying
that it does, you know, for you know, not only
that's just the businesses around there. If that water ain't
right and them traut ain't and the river in the creeks,
guess what, ain't everybody locking their money and ain't nobody catching.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
There's a storm coming off to U Catan. Yeah, he
ain't that can affect us. It's too far out in it.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
It's too far out to tell. I mean, you know,
that's what it's supposed to be here middle of next week, Thursday, Friday,
something like that. So, I mean, that's that's a concern.
But as of right now, they don't know where it's
gonna go. They won't know till probably, you know, Monday
or Tuesday, about what path it's gonna take. Because if
you look at the spaghetti models now, it's just showing
it all over Florida, all over well, yeah, in the
(03:58):
big Bend, right here coming at a and and you
know there's a few of them showing the words pennsilcol area.
And then you know, you go further west, so they
don't know, but they get a pinpointed. You can bet
your butt when you know two or three days and
the bat order is gonna hit at And that's what
you know. I thinking about the weather people is you know,
(04:18):
everybody's like way they you know, they ain't They ain't really,
I said, Man, they're doing all they can do. And
at least they got it to this point where if
you can't leave Florida in a day, something's wrong anyway,
you know what I mean. So they give you, you know,
two or three days advance a warning to leave. But
it ain't nothing to play with. I mean, the water
temp's still high out there, so I mean the storms
can build, and that's what you gotta look at. And
(04:39):
you gotta look at the pressure. When that pressure starts
dropping on that storm, that means it's gonna get ugly.
It's it's a strong storm, and that's what you gotta
worry about. So, like I said, it's up in the air.
We'll we'll figure out when it gets to that point. Yeah,
you're saying, I got a snapchat in my phone. I
didn't turn it down. I know you're gonna say something,
but I'm just hoping and praying. Like I said, Yeah,
(05:00):
I don't wish it on nobody, but we don't need
it in Florida. That's all I got said. But how's
how's the water clarity and everything around you?
Speaker 4 (05:07):
You know, from that rain we had a week ago.
It's got a little bit of stained to it, but
everything's still good up there. You know, we've had no
rain for a while, and it finally got some rain
above us, and it's got a little bit of color
to the way to the lake. It's got a little
stained to it, but it's definitely got things starting to
move forward to bass bit pretty good this week, and
and as that order temperature keeps dropping, it's going to getting.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Better and batter I didn't turn my phone down again,
Oh you didn't. Everybody, mine's always turned down. For what
I bet dal is yours turn downtamer Mine's always turned down.
I'll come on turned down. Well, I mean so that
and so that's you know, that's two different places, like
you know, on the coastline and everything else in the lake.
(05:47):
It's it's you know, you would think it would be
close to being the same, not that far apart, what
will be an hour and a half two hours, yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
Well not that far yeah about our hour iron twenty minutes.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Yeah, and you know all that rain is coming by
you from Georgia and everywhere else. So we still ain't
got that rain, you know, that water yet. So that's
what takes so long. When it ain't what we get
in our you know, in our area, that's what we
get above us. Yeah, that's the same way with us too.
When they get ten inches up there, it's time we
got in here or not. It's coming through our you know,
(06:19):
our waters down Yeah, So I just we play it
by ear man. I just hope that it wasn't like
it was last year, because we had a rough fishing
season last year. I mean the red fish course never quit.
Sheep had never quit. But something about them trout when
it comes to that that tannic acid water and even mullet.
The mullet didn't want to come into the river like
(06:39):
they've been coming in the river. So I'm hoping and
praying that we don't we don't have all that fresh
water when it comes down to time to get going
in the thirties and forties, well when they should be
piling up in there and they're not because of the
fresh water. So, uh, Tanner, what what you got to
say about all this well and tides and everything and
(07:02):
what's going on? You're end well.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
On Monday, I went out. I went out osall the
river and went out on the afternoon on the falling tide,
and I pulled up on a point and I liked
to fish out there, actually a new spot I've been scouting.
And as I was getting all my gear tied up,
I had a lot of bait jumping on to my
lift on the gulf side over there, and I had
(07:25):
red fish tailing and swirling and eating bait on my lift.
So I wasn't close enough to where I needed to
be the cast to him. So I had to get
down in the water without cranking the air boat up
and scattering the fish off. So I got in and
I drugged the boat over and I anchored back off,
and I threw top water and they struck it twice,
(07:46):
but they never would take it. And I threw two
more times and didn't get anything. So I swapped over
to a different bait and threw out drug it back
across air and I hung at nineteen itch red fish.
Did it again after I put him back, caught another
nineteen thatch red fish, and then the bait slowly started
moving down the coast to the east and it just
turned off.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
What bait are you in situated?
Speaker 3 (08:09):
You used Tanner Old Lives, Trimp Live trip.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Muh? Whose bait as that Tanner? It's my fat Uh?
What a top order was using? Was using that? YEASII?
Speaker 3 (08:27):
No, I was using a ball white super spook had
a little feather tied on his tail right there. Yeah,
once you know about the super spook O, I know
about a little super spook.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
That bone was my favorite color. I've had a lot
of luck out of the bone. Was he using the junior?
Speaker 3 (08:43):
It was using the It was a Spook Jr.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Yeah, the junior is what I usually use. I use
that big one every now and then that jokers, you know,
six seven inches long. It seems like that junior about
three or four inches. But some reason I have better
luck with the with the junior versus using the big boy.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
It's just a smaller bait and it's easier for fish.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
To catch. So yeah, but you know as well as
I do. It's just like I always mess with my
youngins and stuff. We fishing in the summertime, fishing with
a piece of cup bait. They're all like getting a
little short pieces of that. Boy, the bigger that cup
bait is the bigger fish. And I've had them dive
you twenty inch red fish when big o'hunks of bait
just whether to have a big one. It's just the
looking to draw that jerker's coming by there. If he's hungry,
(09:24):
he's try to eat it all. That's how big it is.
But yeah, man, like I said, the water, don't never
the dark water, don't never start the red fish. The
red fishes, it's just like a hog. Like I said, Anyway,
they're there and they're gonna eat when they're hungry. They
don't make a dang fat. Water is dark, clear whatever.
(09:45):
It's a good thing about the the darker water is
the fish don't get to spook as much when you
pull up on them. But saying that, I've run right
through them in a creek and look over the side
and see them spin around real quick and throw to them.
It's like by bam, So everybody that talks about all
you scattered a fish, you scattered this. I mean, yeah,
(10:06):
it ain't that many fish there to begin with. Yeah
you can scatter them, but if you went a school
of fish in the wintertime and stuff like that, wintertime
fishing and them deep poles and stuff, you're not gonna
scatter on them fish. And they hungry, they're there fur,
there to eat, they're looking for you know, bait to
eat and everything else. You're not gonna pay. No, they're
not gonna pay you. No mine. You run over the
top of them. They full of crap. And I and
(10:27):
I'll call out anybody that you know says that, because
I've done done it several times. And I may not
catch as much must trout as most people, but uh,
I can tell you one thing of red fish I
can catch them. Ain't nothing to catch fifty to one
hundred a day during the wintertime. Yeah that's on a
bad day, fifty. So they say what they want to.
I mean, I know a little bit about the red fishing,
(10:48):
but not much about trout fishing. But the red fish
I can catch. Wow. So what do you got to
say about that tanner about spooking fish?
Speaker 3 (10:57):
I agree with you. When I come in, I don't.
I always try not to run over where I'm going
to be fishing at. I try to come around it
or up on the grass line or the point or wherever.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
It's Okay, Ben Settler, let's hear it. I had to
call him out like that. That's an inside jake with
Ben ever talking about scattering the fish.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
But no, you can pull up on a hole or wherever,
and usually the fish are actually lay in the bottom
of the hole. So if you're pulling up on the
outside of it or whatever, they're not blowing out of there.
I pulled up on one, throw a bait over, you know,
and thirty seconds later you got a fish.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
But the main thing is what I'm what I mean
by I'm talking about scattering fish. If you got three
fish there and you run over top of them, yeah,
you're probably gonna scatter them three fish, yeah, all three
of them. But if you got twenty or thirty fish
there and you run over the top of them, yeah,
five or six may leave, ten may leave, but they're
coming right back to that spot because that's where you
know their hangout is. I don't care, Like I said,
(11:54):
I've spun around, run through them, see them scatter, spin
around like let's see anything else left there? And everybody
on a pole. Boom boom, boom bom on the boat,
double up, triple up.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
Now how you see him?
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Huh?
Speaker 4 (12:05):
You see him with your eyes?
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Yeaes and them My eyes are sending awake. But we
gotta go to a quick commercial then we'll get back
on it. All right, welcome back to the Outdoors show.
You got tenor of her show and Paul a video
him catching a fish right there, and Paul was like, yeah,
(12:28):
it's taking drag, I said, because you've got that Mickey
Mouse and a fishing he uses four. Don't let him lie, no,
But you know we're talking about the fishing and the
biggest red fish. The biggest red fish I've ever caught
was I think thirty eight thirty nine inches. And you
(12:49):
know that was during you know, April starting to May.
That's prime time, you know, used cup bait and everything else,
you know, during the summertime around the Morster bars. And
I've I've had several you know, several caught off my boat,
but that's the biggest I've ever caught. Now, I did
have the we had the window warriors. What two years ago. Yeah,
(13:10):
we had a boy, a combat ringe called actual legal redfish.
He was twenty six. He was right at twenty seven.
He was probably a quarter inch twenty seven. But that
joker weighed ten pounds and I've caught eight four is
my personal best weight size, right legal weight size. But
(13:32):
my dad's caught a nine to three and uh, you
know that's that's really unheard of. And he was twenty
seven on the money. But I've never caught one that
wasn't even you know, a quarter inch from twenty seven
don't seem like much, but that's that's a bunch of
red fish weight wise. Well, but I measured him, weighed him,
measured him again. Yeah, I said, something ain't right. My
(13:54):
scales is off any ten pounds. I ain't never seen
red fish ten pounds at twenty six, you know, yeah,
you know, almost twenty seven inches long. And I took
him to a buddy mine's house before we took him
up to their place to clean them. And you know,
cause we had a fish fry for the warriors up
there at Rigoni, I said, wait his fish. He took
(14:14):
his scale out, you know, and he waited. He said
that joker is over, and I said, no, he ain't.
He said, I bet you twenty dollars. And he stuck
him up or to the scale or the measuring stick.
We all got them bump sticks, you know. He stuck
him up there and he look, he pulled him up,
looked at his nose, make sure that smashed his nose,
you know, trying to find a way. He picked him
(14:35):
back up and waited him again. He said, that's the
biggest red fish I've ever seen caught. You know, that's legal.
And they had that twenty thousand dollars tournament in that
Red Fish Series tournament going on in stan Hatchie. I said, Dad, again,
we ought to run on them guy down telling him
give us a thousand dollars. Give it to him dollars
right there. One wow, and that you know, that's unheard of.
Like I said, I've caught some big fish. And I
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tell you because I don't fish that area no more.
It's around Yates Creek, and I hope you know that's
Kenny's fishing areas. We got boats over the mars there
on top of each other. You know. Yates Creek has
been real good to me in the tournaments. I've won
a lot of tournaments and finishing and talked, you know,
two or three off of Yates Creek. There's been some
(15:19):
real big something about that little bend right there. There's
been some real big fishing. They gang up in there,
They gang up in the little cove. But now there's
so many people fishing it, it's got them scattered. Yeah,
you got boats running everywhere. Man, it's it's one thing.
But you by yourself, you ain't gonna hurt them fish.
They coming back now unless there's very few there. I
(15:39):
can understand that one. You know, the fishes scattered, but
when they grouped up light in the wintertime, you ain't
hurting them jokers by running over them. If you do
give it five minutes, they'll be right back to the
same area. You throw a lot of shrimp down there,
your polls, they doubled over the whole time. Do you
get ready to leave? That's the onlyest bad thing about
the wintertime fishing is they bite so good. Just this
(16:00):
past year, the red fish, they were biting so good.
We didn't even have to put a gulp or anything
on our hooks, were just catching them on a hook,
a bear hook, a bear hook with a jighead with
a red color, pink color whatever. They were just biting
the bike. I thought my young one was joking with me.
He said, I just caught one on the bait. I'm like,
you know right, And he said I did, and said
(16:20):
watch this, and he threw back out there and bumped
a couple of times and bam, and I seen, Hi
didn't put no bait on her this, So I know
it wasn't fibbing me. But and I've heard, you know
a few other people talking about that. They just hitting
everything that moves. You know, when they get down in
them holes and they get cold, gold they want to move.
You got something come by you, Yeah, you're gonna hit
at it. So what it is? So when they hit
that hook and you snatched just right, guess what you
(16:42):
got him? You got him. And that's that's the whole
thing about, you know, winter fishing. Them jokers under the cold.
They're hungry, you know, they just want they want to
eat something. And you go up there with ain't no
water and you running there with that air boat in
the back of that creek and got a deep pole.
You fishing the fishing. I'm gonna tell them, how they've
been trapped there? Wow? And the anything like me? After
(17:03):
about three four hours, I want, I'm gonna do whatever
I got.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
What's your biggest red fish tenner?
Speaker 3 (17:11):
Twenty seven twenty seven ever caught?
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Yeah? Wow? Wow? Twenty seven on the money or did
you smash him?
Speaker 3 (17:17):
No, he was twenty seven on the money. I didn't
keep him. I put him back and uh. The biggest
trout I ever caught was the twenty five inch trout.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
What's a big one? What'd you catch that one?
Speaker 1 (17:27):
On?
Speaker 3 (17:28):
Love shrimp?
Speaker 4 (17:29):
Bve shrimp?
Speaker 2 (17:31):
And you know it was twenty seven or twenty eight,
the biggest trout I ever caught. But the biggest one
I ever had on my boat, I think it was
twenty nine or thirty, I can't remember. We caught two.
One of them was twenty nine, I think, and he
was actually heavier than the thirty inch trout. The thirty
was like real poor, I mean it, yeah, real long,
you know. But the twenty nine, and believe it or not,
(17:53):
the biggest heaviest trout I ever had was twenty seven inches.
You know, it's six and a half pounds. And that
was called I think I believe that was called off
of a white cup I remember correctly. But like I said,
it don't matter when you when you get the fall fishing,
everything changes from summer summer the kind of picky you're
(18:15):
gonna want wintertime. Man, if it's in there and they
hungry it, don't you.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
Find fresh water.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
You can make a golp up and say this is
the Joel got no use it. It's gonna work. And
people some people would believe that like that good they
are about in that decker. I want to buy a
whole case something. But now they're just hungry, man. But
that's what's good about it, especially for the older people
and stuff, and the people that don't have much knowledge fishing.
They take the kids out there and they get on
(18:44):
them fish like that. The kids won't never forget it.
They won't never forget it, and they're gonna come back, of course,
and the kids is gonna talk about it. So that's
what I really enjoy, taking them guys, you know, out
there and putting them on a bunch of fish like
I do in them creeks, because especially young and young
I won't never live. And now that might cost the
parents a lot more money in the long run, I'm
(19:05):
my dad. We got to get a boat. We got
we gotta get this boat, get this fishing pole. You know,
that's the way it's got to be.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
But that's a good thing.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
That's a good thing out everybodying dope off the street.
They ain't stilling out of somebody's house. They wanting to fish, right,
So that's all that matters to me.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
That's the season we're going into. The fishing and the hunting.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
The hunting. All your time, the hunting, The hunting's kicking off.
Your boy, ready to get out there in the woods. Honestly,
one of them. Now, Tyson, he's whatever Daddy wants to do. Now.
He has mentioned he said, am I gonna get to
shoot one this year? I said yes, So I said,
I'm on, you know, crossbow, We're gonna try to get
your own one. He says, okay, Daddy, I said, you
know how to hit him? He said, right behind the shoulder.
(19:43):
I said, so, I'm kind of curious. You know, he's
five and and he's excited. Dude, he could be still
when he wants to. If it's something that he wants
to do, yeah, he'll be quiet me still. But if
it's something I'm entertaining and doing. He ain't gonna be
quiet me. He's gonna make all kind of racket and
are we going yet? I'm bored. But if it's something
(20:04):
to do with him, you know, getting to kill something
or catch something, he's all about that for at least
three or four hours until it don't happen. We're going out.
But that's why I'm ready to take him out there.
And I'm my oldest boy. He's big into football right now,
so he ain't had time to do much or nothing
but football. All about football now, Cole. He's he's out
there bow hunting and chasing. You know, of course, you're
(20:26):
sixteen seventeen years old, you chasing little girls and you
ain't got time to spend time with daddy. Daddy's out
the window when at that age, so you can't really
tell him much nothing. But I do know one thing.
His little girlfriend will be lonely Saturday morning opening the
dog season. He'll be in the woods when them dogs
and hounds in the back of the truck. And that's
going to be the test of the test with his girlfriend. Now,
(20:49):
let's see see how that's gonna work out. But I'm
sure she'll be right here with him. I'm teasing y'all.
Y'all listen to me on ready, don't y'all go back
and tell a little owd bride that I'm talking smack
because I ain't. She'll be right truck with him. But Tanna,
what you got coming up? You doing any hunting or
have you been? You just went hunting?
Speaker 3 (21:06):
And I went to Arkansas two weekends ago. Shot some
geese out there, and uh, we got musluding coming up.
That's where generally when I get fired up, I don't
go bout and I'll go in musloading season and old.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Now you got to tell us about the Arkansas trip?
What about it? What did y'all do? What y'all?
Speaker 3 (21:28):
We shot some Canadian geese. It was early good season,
and uh we shot almost a limit on Saturday and
we were like too shy of a limit. And then
Sunday morning we went and shot a dove field and
we shot thirty two between eight of us.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Yeah, you wasn't last year. You wasn't here last weekend
when we've done a radio show with you, what was you? Yeah,
that's right. We talked about the geese, that's right. We
did talk about the geese hunting. I forgot about that.
I was in the parking lot right every where they
followed you down here eating the marons, that's right? And
what were you fishing? You talking about going hunting somewhere?
Speaker 4 (22:05):
Else?
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Where's you going hunting out Utah?
Speaker 3 (22:08):
I've got the opportunity to go elk hunting in Utah?
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Wow? Can you give that tag up to somebody else?
Speaker 3 (22:13):
I don't know about that. It's a rifle bull elk tag.
And we're supposed to be packing in with about seven
or eight horses and mules, and it's a fourteen day
total trip, about ten days of hunting, and you have
to pack in thirteen miles one way, and you have
a base camp, and you hunt off your base camp,
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and then at the end of the trip, if you've
killed elk, you have to pack meat out and camp
out one day, pack back in, stay the night, and
then pack the rest of camp out the next day. Wow,
back down the mountain.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
How cold is it first to be an?
Speaker 3 (22:48):
It could be anywhere from five degrees to fifty two degrees?
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Hello, hello Joe freezing. Yeah, I'm not there. I just
took a picture in my head, right, I just don't
see me showing up in that photograph thirteen miles one
way and going out and look my roughness at the
holiday in something. I can't find a remote, that's my
(23:14):
rough in it. No, you got a l I v
I m oh no, that's why I back in the
western days in the.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
Bottle huh living.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
I mean that would be fun. Don't get me wrong.
When I get cold, if I ever ge get cold
on that trip, I want to get somewhere I get warm.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
Yeah, I don't see fire.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Yeah, sometimes I.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
Don't work there can of cheft ad right, been kicking high?
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Come on now, I said, and you going.
Speaker 4 (23:44):
Why can you take Joe Wee?
Speaker 2 (23:47):
He could go. I'll stay behind at the hotel, Riven
go to the bar. Very nothing they get back. I'll
cut the meat up. Yeah, what far do you tos?
Speaker 4 (24:00):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Northeastern Utah? Hey, guys, you'all heard the story going on
about Utah. Will be right back with Joe at this person.
All right, guys, welcome back to the Big Ben outdoor show.
We got Captain Kenny Mullins on the line and Captain
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Tanner Swabs here in the studio. Were missing Paul Tyre.
I think you got to go to the little boys
room up there. He comes back in right now. Was
you in the bathroom? Sir? H we're live right now.
Just to let you know. Radedar stuff on the phone's
on the phone right. He been wanting to talk to
you for like an hour. He's been asking where you
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at the whole time. I say, he's a no show
like always.
Speaker 5 (24:47):
I had the swamp places with Tanner.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Spot Now I guess, yeah, yeah, Tanner Tanner can't catch
no fish. So he's o there trying to follow me.
The other day, Kenny and had a drone and everything.
Can't try his fishing.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
That lies.
Speaker 5 (25:02):
I was worried about that when I posted those pictures
of red fish the other day.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Yeah, you got to watch him. He's got that new drone.
Now he can get like eight miles one way. That's
that's not true.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
You got two miles djiant dj.
Speaker 5 (25:22):
I got one of those.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
Yeah, they're nice.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Man, he's got it.
Speaker 5 (25:25):
I need to learn how to use it. I can
teach you.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
I can fly now. Well, we can't figure out for
real though, how how do you make it follow you?
We can make it zone in on you wherever you move,
it moves, but how do you like if you go
to walking.
Speaker 5 (25:42):
Yeah, I'll send it to you how to do it.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
We couldn't get that part figured out. I run around
the parking lot to that run out of breath and
it was but now that's the only part we need
to figure out.
Speaker 5 (25:53):
Yeah, yeah, I'll help you all out with that was what.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Was so important that you couldn't be at the today?
What was you doing?
Speaker 5 (26:02):
So I had a meeting about some dogs, and then
Pat McGriff and I Captain Pat McGriff and I were
supposed to go snook fishing, but they ended up opening
the locks on the on the river on us. So
we're on the coming from the lake to the river
and it's not good conditions now, so we had to
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bail on it.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
Oh so you could have been at the show. Yeah,
making excuses for mister Pat.
Speaker 5 (26:29):
Well, you know, I had to try to take care
of him. He's he's never caught a snook in his
life and he's getting out there.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
Now. Come on, now, I know Pat mcgriffs caught everything
under the sun. Are you telling me he never caught
a snook?
Speaker 5 (26:43):
He's never caught a snook. I tried to get him
on one last year, and uh he hooked up on
one and we saw no exaggeration. Five hundred to one
thousand in one creek. He'll tell you it was insane.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Why didn't y'all throw a cast in it and then
hook one of his hook? And then y'all and tell
y'all was like how you want to and how the
fisherman works. You know how you always got your clients
stretching their arms out and making the red fish look bigger.
Speaker 5 (27:11):
That's how all still outlaws does. Now when he.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Has this, we just got the game warders taking her nets.
Speaker 5 (27:21):
Oh, I said, when he has that, When he has it,
that's the key thing.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
When I have nets.
Speaker 5 (27:29):
So have you been doing any fishing?
Speaker 2 (27:31):
I went Sunday Sunday I took some kids out and uh,
it's going back, and uh we caught We caught a
bunch of red fish, caught a few small trout, nothing
to brag about, but we did catch them all in
the creeks once again, though, I mean, I imagine you
know this weekend. This weekend, like I was telling them,
it's gonna be sixty eight high eighty eight, so that
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temperature is gonna be dropping a little bit more so
that's gonna push him on in further. But I don't
know what this fresh water's gonna do.
Speaker 5 (28:00):
Yeah, it go either way there. But I know on
our end, uh, around Keaton area, the trout have have
pushed in a little. We've been we've been catching limits
of trout in in the three to four foot range.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
And so that's been going on a while. Heading or
was y'all catching them deeper over there and then shaller
our way?
Speaker 5 (28:24):
It was? It was deeper around Keaton, you know, closer
you got to Keaton, the deeper they got to that
six to nine foot range. And then as we started
moving towards your ways, when we got shallower and shallower.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
Yeah, I couldn't. I mean, was it two or three
weeks ago? I was telling you, I'll catched them in
the mouth of the creeks legal trout. I mean, they
weren't very big, but they were you know, in between
side you know, anywhere from fifteen to nineteen inches.
Speaker 5 (28:48):
The trout and all of our all of our reds
are are kind of already in that fall staging zone.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
Wow, and you know they're starting to you know, this
time of the year, really, I want to say mid
October you'll start sending them real super they look like
a goldfish almost so so colored up. The red fish
they get real pretty in the wintertime.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
The ones I call it Monday. They were all that
copper color.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
That copper color, that copper gold. Yeah something about it, man,
And that the tails would be like a greenish blue.
Speaker 5 (29:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
Eat a lot of crabs and crustaceans.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
Is that what it is? Changing the color? Yep? Yeah,
how do you know that?
Speaker 4 (29:31):
I just know.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
How do you know that?
Speaker 5 (29:33):
Can you that that is true? They do? That's that's
when they're eating more crab.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Who told you that?
Speaker 5 (29:38):
It's just kind of magazine.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
At least you can answer it. I just know you read.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
That's what it's going to tell you.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Man. But yeah, they and see the red fish, Like
I said, they're gonna continue. They're gonna fatten up because
I mean they're gonna sit there and hog everything that
comes through. What a little bit of food they get.
And of course the trap to be starting once again.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
See I'll think the fall feeds starting. It's already started.
Speaker 5 (30:05):
I wouldn't say the fall feet has started yet, but
they're staging.
Speaker 4 (30:10):
Well that's what I'm saying too.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
I'm seeing the end of October. If it keeps going
like it's going to temper toure dropping like it's dropping
getting in the eighties, it'd been the seventy you know,
into October. We'll have a couple of cold confronts come
through in the middle of October, I'm sure. And when
that starts happening, that's when it's gonna get good. And
the rain.
Speaker 5 (30:27):
Yeah, in the last couple of years, we've been like
a month behind. I think this year, I'm hopeful that
it's gonna be back to normal.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
It seems to be on schedule or a little little
maybe even a little head of schedule.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
If you think about it. Them two years we've been behind.
It's because of fresh water. Yeah, rain, rain has killed us.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
Well, we've had more storms than hurricanes in the past,
like this time of year and before you know, up
until now, we really only have the one storm and
we're potentially gonna get the other storm.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
What do you think about that storm next week? Week?
What's it gonna be.
Speaker 5 (31:01):
I haven't even looked.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
You probably don't want to look. It's uh, yeah, I'm
just going with it, and you know, and I'm not
gonna talk about it, right now. But you know why
I'm worried because paper has been signed. Besides them, oh yeah,
besides them finishing theirs up went on. But at the
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same time, here we are in the middle of closing stages.
The hurricane's coming.
Speaker 5 (31:32):
Yeah, you'll be all right, I hope.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
So we needed to go down there around for my
herds or something down there and go across.
Speaker 4 (31:40):
Well, you just don't pull that big boat out on
the trailer, do you.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
Oh yeah, this is this big deal. Oh yeah, it's
got a trailer.
Speaker 5 (31:47):
Now what size is that boat again? Joel four h
forty four.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Yeah, we can't go in a hurricane with her there.
I ain't gonna be out in that light and then
hang it up there when am I?
Speaker 5 (32:00):
Hey, speaking of lightning. I don't know if y'all remember
last year there was a father and daughter hunting in
central Florida and they were both hunting out of a
ground blind and lightning struck the tree that they were
next to and through the father about eight feet and
it ended up killing his daughter. Well this week actually
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it was yeah, this week. His The dad ended up
going out there sitting in the blind where that happened,
and he harvested the deer that his daughter was after. Yeah,
that's a pretty good story.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
Yeah, man, that lightning is real dangerous. And you know,
a lot of people, you know, they they some of
them don't know, a lot of them do know, but
they still do it anyway. Because we're human beings. We're
gonna do what we want to do. But the tree
is the worst thing you could be by. It's just
like a lightning rod. And when it travels that tree,
it's gonna travel the roots. And if that root comes
(32:59):
up to that ground where you're standing at, guess what
it's coming through you. So the tree is not a
good thing to be by, you know. I know, you
try to use them for cover and everything else when
it comes to a ground blind, but and down there,
it's just you know, it's ten times worse than what
we got it. The lightning gets bad up here around
the Big Ben area, but not like it does down south.
Down South is notorious. It never fails in the summertime
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or even August September starting, there's going to be a
lightning storm about one or two o'clock every day, yell,
and then late afternoons too. So he's got lightning, ain't
nothing to play with it. I've had it hit, you
know not I ain't had a direct hit, but I've
had it hit close enough where it hit the concrete
behind what I was laying on changing the oil fielter
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and it knocked me out the backside of the truck.
And I had a burn mark on my arm and
it felt like somebody hit me in in the private
area with a sledgehammer when it knocked me out from
under the truck. And I couldn't talk for about five
or ten minutes. Hum. So I called my dad when
I finally got my senses back and say, I got
hit by a light Now what I said, Yeah, I
got hit by lightning. He says, you got to go
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to the doctor see if your heart rate. You know,
your heart's still in rhythm. It didn't knock your heart
out of rhythm. So I went to the doctor. She
checked me out and she's like, did you really get
hit by a light And I pulled my shirt up
right and you can see the burn mark down my arm.
She says, I think you did. But like I said,
I wanted to direct hit. It was just through the concrete. Well,
get right behind it, like it hit within six foot
from me. All I seen was a big wall, a light,
(34:29):
bright light, and a boom so loud. It's like it
about blow my ears out. And that's a scary feeling.
But you know, I said, a lot of people to
get killed by it. They don't ever know that got hit.
I mean it happened so quick.
Speaker 5 (34:40):
Yeah, this kid in that time of year where you know,
more and more peoples in the outdoors hunting, fishing, you know, camping.
You know, weather it's going to start getting right. That
stuff to be mindful of.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
Yeah, no doubt, no doubt. The weather ain't nothing to
play with. It ain't got no mercy on nobody, and
it's gonna do what it's gonna do. That's my mother nature
for you. But you need to be aware stuff. Just
you know, keep in mind. If you're camping, stay away
from trees. You know, don't try to I know you're
trying to get cover and everything outside the sun. But
if you got weather, they're coming up, get up, move
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you know, you know, move away from them trees. Don't
be right up on top of a tree. That's how
a lot of horses and cows get killed. They get
up under that tradition and guess what light it comes
off that tree and kills them. You don't never hear
of a horse down out the middle of field, do
you up? Cow? Well, that's right, you know what I mean.
It can get the ground beside them, but it's always
the ground.
Speaker 4 (35:29):
I was up on Lake Gunnersville and big storm come up,
and I and I went in and I was sitting
up on at a tackle stop at a chairs rocking
chairs out in front. I watched a family come up
and get out of a pond tin boat and walk
by a oak tree and lightning head not everyone, now,
it was crazy.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
We got to go to a quick commercial. Guys, y'all
stay too with us, and y'all be with us on
this final segment. All right, guys, welcome back to the show.
We've been to get into cat fishing stores. Kenny, what's
the biggest catfish you ever caught?
Speaker 5 (36:12):
Mid range?
Speaker 2 (36:14):
Salt water cat? Now, ain't talking about fresh.
Speaker 5 (36:16):
Water, Oh, saltwater. I don't catch those.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
You're such a bad liar, kiddy. It's not this is
not being truthful. I'm gonna tell my size. You gotta
tell your size.
Speaker 5 (36:28):
I honestly, I don't know, probably probably eight or ten pounds.
Sale cat.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
Damn, I dang. I mean, I ain't never caught one
that that was a.
Speaker 5 (36:40):
Big baits, especially big top waters. They will pound them
top orders.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
And that's the salt water cat.
Speaker 4 (36:46):
No, that's fresh water fresh water.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
Mine's probably about eighteen or nineteen.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
And shell cat.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
Really, when did you catch that Monday?
Speaker 5 (36:55):
What was it? About? Six seven pounds?
Speaker 2 (36:59):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
I didn't, but I thought it was a good red fish,
I really did. And when I pulled him in, I
couldn't believe it was a seil cat. That's the first
sel cat I've ever caught. Called lots of the butter
cats or whatever kind of wider yellow cats you want
to call them out here.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
But he caught lots of You heard that? The true
comes out.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
If you say you don't, you're There's two types of
people in the world, people who catch catfish and people
who lie about it.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
And Kenny's one of them.
Speaker 5 (37:26):
Did you eat it?
Speaker 2 (37:28):
Did you eat it?
Speaker 5 (37:29):
No?
Speaker 3 (37:29):
I'm strictly catching release fella right here.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
Now. I will tell you this, Kenny. He went out
there by hisself, and he finally caught three red fish,
and he caught a catfish though by hisself they wouldn't.
I wouldn't.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
On the boat, Kenny, you can confirm this is horse
crap right here now, I caught two nine treads and
a twenty six in tread.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
That's the biggest red fish you've ever caught.
Speaker 3 (37:54):
No, I've caught twenty seven.
Speaker 5 (37:58):
So you told me you went out by yourself caught catfish,
and you told someone about it.
Speaker 4 (38:04):
I'm not.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
I'm an honest feller.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
You don't.
Speaker 5 (38:09):
You just don't have to tell it.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
Yeah, well we were.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
Talking about the biggest catfish we've ever happened to be
the biggest catfish I've ever caught.
Speaker 5 (38:21):
There, you go.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
Usually catch some little ones about seven eight inches long
and cut my hands up me to down off his hook.
Then he begs me not to take a picture of him.
Speaker 5 (38:32):
That's when he's on your.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
Boat right on him.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
Catfish.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
Well, I mean, I ain't mad catch eight catfish and
catch two hundred reds. So I'm saying what y'all want
to about any kind of fishing. But I promise you
right now we'll make a side bed. I catch most
reds out of us three right now.
Speaker 5 (38:55):
They got to be slots.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
Slots I agree with that. Help heck apologize, get me
fired up in her town. But uh we we caught
probably two thirteen that one day with Michael Limm's group.
Uh and probably one hundred and twenty hundred and thirty
on the slots.
Speaker 5 (39:15):
So you're still you're still living on that one day.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
Well son, I don't go fishing all the time because
I catch so many fish. Right, they try to pay
me to stay away from the boat ramp. That way
they got a chance to catch.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
I started clicking his counter right there, and that thing
actually counted by tens.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
Oh boy, that thing about him and j R. They
got to have counters. Know how many they catch? My
people leave reviews right now, eat on our to count
to two hundreds.
Speaker 5 (39:45):
Hey, they leave a review because he gives them a
free blowny sandwiches.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
They hey, whatever it takes, O boy, they lock that
frivele on the sandwich of that bacon and let us
on there. I love Paul. Now, what was you gonna ask?
Let's go ahead get the lines.
Speaker 4 (40:01):
I got my feet up though, Kenny, what's your biggest
personal personal best red fish? And for yourself then for
a customer?
Speaker 5 (40:11):
So my personal best was fifty six inches and out
of duneeding by the duneedon Caugeway. My biggest personal best
here in our local waters was two years ago in October,
and it was forty seven and a half inches. And
the biggest one for a client was forty six inches
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and that was two years ago as well.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
Wow, my meter is going off, can you?
Speaker 5 (40:41):
I mean, hey, hey, I got the pictures.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
The pictures don't prove nothing on the measure.
Speaker 5 (40:47):
Tape when it does when it's on the measures.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
Told the people about how you be telling stories on
here before you got on the phone. They all know
you about, can you, especially the ones around Keaton Beach?
Speaker 5 (41:01):
And hey, if there's one thing I can catch, it's
the red fish.
Speaker 4 (41:06):
Now, what's your biggest trout? Same thing with trout, probably.
Speaker 5 (41:11):
Thirty thirty one inches.
Speaker 2 (41:13):
How much you weigh?
Speaker 5 (41:14):
It was kind of slim. It was nine point eight nine.
Speaker 2 (41:21):
Baby, God's will kind of slimut that.
Speaker 5 (41:30):
Yeah, I'll tell you the story on that one.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
My wife.
Speaker 3 (41:36):
I said, I'm smelling something due.
Speaker 5 (41:40):
I don't know. And pictures on that one too.
Speaker 4 (41:44):
Now this ain't fake news. Now you're telling the true story.
Speaker 5 (41:47):
No, that's true story. There was nine pounds, nine pounds,
nine point eight nine pounds, and uh so the story
behind it. My wife was wolfing my tail for about
two months straight fishing, and I went to the store
and I said, I'm going to find some lure that's
going to beat her today. And we went out.
Speaker 2 (42:07):
Was it?
Speaker 5 (42:07):
And it was when live target shrimp first came out.
Speaker 2 (42:10):
I thought you was about to say unfair.
Speaker 5 (42:13):
No, there was a live target shrimp. I used it
one time. I made the first cast of the day.
I caught that trout and when I got it in,
I left and went. We went straight to the hill
and she said what are you doing? I said, I'm
winning today.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
So you kept that thirut that you preach about not
keeping it? Was?
Speaker 5 (42:32):
It was? It was guilder.
Speaker 3 (42:35):
It was nine pounds, but I had three pounds of
weight on that idiot.
Speaker 5 (42:43):
No, actually I actually hung one even bigger. I guess
this is what about four years ago. And it was
on a mirrored in the twenty seven m R the
Excel size, and my wife went to netted and not
the hook out of its mouth.
Speaker 3 (43:02):
That's what I say to you.
Speaker 5 (43:06):
Yeah, that was that was the hard that story.
Speaker 2 (43:08):
It's my ex wife now, yeah, that day the hook out,
So you did what You didn't follow her through with it.
I followed through with it. That's why I'm going through
court right now. Because she not man just playing. She
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probably got messing around or something. Heydell's watching on't be talking.
Watch What do you got to say about Dale Kenny again?
What was you saying all again?
Speaker 5 (43:45):
He's such a good guy.
Speaker 2 (43:50):
What you said? You said that he couldn't catch no
fish and you always wanted to catch thirty one inch
trout that weighed nine pounds.
Speaker 5 (44:00):
Here?
Speaker 2 (44:00):
What did then say with a three point something?
Speaker 5 (44:03):
You got to put that point eight nine in there?
Makes a difference, So you the one to talk to guys.
Speaker 2 (44:09):
That was Walleye fishing up north. How to put the
wakes in the fish?
Speaker 3 (44:17):
He said, he pleased the fifth.
Speaker 2 (44:21):
That's what he got busted out on because you've never
seen the top of the charts on him.
Speaker 5 (44:25):
No, it's because it's because I stay too busy. I
don't have tournaments.
Speaker 2 (44:31):
Come on, h Kenn, you just don't lie no more
about the fishing now.
Speaker 5 (44:36):
It is fixing to get crazy though. If people want
to book trips, they better book them now. I don't
know about you, guys, but October November is swamped.
Speaker 2 (44:45):
Yeah, it's gonna be busy. November starts mine. I don't
really remember fishing in October, November, December and January and
a little bit of February. I saw that if somebody can't.
Speaker 5 (44:56):
Yeah, I'm like that.
Speaker 2 (44:57):
I'll have one. But I don't do more than three
or four a week. That's all I'm doing.
Speaker 5 (45:01):
Yeah, this is this is my favorite time of the
year to fish.
Speaker 2 (45:04):
Yes, the honest time that you can catch fish if
you have here in my area, fishing in my creeks. Uh,
because the creeks the fish over around Keating Beach. But
you know as well as I do, they no fishing
better in the country between the Fenn Holloway. Well, I
should say Adams Beach and STEINGATCHI but I really.
Speaker 3 (45:23):
Should say, yeah, that's what you should say.
Speaker 2 (45:27):
Yeah, that's what I should say. But now there ain't
no better fishing in the country between the Fenn Holloway
and Saint Mark's.
Speaker 5 (45:34):
I would say you can Saint Mark's where the Fan
and Saint Marks between there. No, don't don't escape out
the kind of all Sila center area there.
Speaker 2 (45:48):
Halloway, Fenn Holloway and the Daggum. What's that other place
everybody likes to go to Spring Warrior. Yeah, Spring Warrior,
that's where I heard all the fish is. That's where
you fish out anywhere, right, And I mean that's where
you tell me you fish at. Are you lying?
Speaker 5 (46:02):
When I fish out that way in the winter. I'm
on the flats though, the shallow flats, but I'm not
on the flats.
Speaker 2 (46:08):
Now.
Speaker 5 (46:08):
You want a good place to go fishing? Pinhook?
Speaker 2 (46:14):
I almost laughed, Well, you gotta fight sixty thousand Georgia
people out of the way to get to that pin
Hook and they're all anchored up on the same wash. Yeah.
So if you want to go through there and have
a sword fight or have you know what's that called
when they run them horses together and you on the back.
Speaker 4 (46:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (46:35):
Yeah, if you want to do that, go to pin Hook,
because they did any of it.
Speaker 5 (46:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (46:41):
Everybody's like, don't talk about that secret creek. What you
talking about? Penhock? How do you know about that? Come on, man, that's.
Speaker 4 (46:49):
Like the grandma.
Speaker 2 (46:51):
Yeah, there's been so many fish caught out of Pinhook
Creek is not even funnywy.
Speaker 5 (46:56):
Have y'all seen any shrimp running?
Speaker 2 (46:58):
No, everybody's telling me that the worst suit sider. Key.
Speaker 5 (47:01):
Yeah, I heard. I heard about that. That's why I
was asking.
Speaker 2 (47:05):
No, I ain't seeing nothing usually that down there piled
up you know this time of the year around stein
hatche and stuff. And yeah, they that'd be making their
way this way.
Speaker 5 (47:13):
Yeah they did two years ago. I didn't get any
last year. Two years ago I got a bunch, but
it was a little earlier in the summer.
Speaker 2 (47:19):
Yeah. I've seen pictures on Facebook today where people have
got them. Well, guess what, Captain Catfish Mullins, we have
run out of time today. I thank everybody for joining
us and maybe that you can make it on time
to the show next week instead of fine take Captain
Patric griff Fishing. Thank you all for tuning on only
on ninety six fives you've.
Speaker 1 (47:39):
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