The Bloomdaddy Experience with Otis & Sam September 3, 2025

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
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Speaker 3 (00:25):
Jim or and.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
Acy former Congressman bloom Daddy Show Political analysts.

Speaker 4 (00:28):
All right, let's talks to politics.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
District Judge in San Francisco ruling the President Trump acted
unlawfully when he activated thousands of National Guard members and
deployed a handful of Marines to face riots and protest
in California. Now, this guy was overruled by the Ninth
Circuit in San Francisco the first time he went this route,
which you know, the Ninth Circuit usually liberal as hell,

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but they actually sided with Trump and then he goes
at it again.

Speaker 4 (00:55):
Is the judge correct?

Speaker 5 (00:58):
Well, it's interesting this time he ruled based on the
Posse Comatatas Act, which basically says that federal forces cannot
be used to enforce domestic law. So it's interesting in
this case President Trump sent the troops in using the
Insurrection Act, where he said troops were needed without the

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governor's consent because there was a rebellion against Ice agents.
So if you think about it, okay, that's the case,
and that was probably why it was ruled the one direction.
But now it's being overturned or pulled back because of
this as I say, Posse Comatatis Act, which basically says, okay,
once the president takes the troops and puts them in,

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they cannot and they're federalized, they can, they're still subject
to this act, which means they cannot be used to
enforce domestic law. So I think that's really what the
next appeal is going to be. And it's interesting because
we're going to have all these cases going forward as
President Trump continues to do some pretty unique things. You know,

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we're going to have rulings and and one ruling is
going to mount to one thing and then we're going
to go to this other. So again, I guess the
question is going to be when, when when he federalized
the troops, did they actually were they actually used to
enforce domestic law? And if that was the case, then
the judge will probably be right if if this act

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is held is you know, held up.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
Did you ever think in your lifetime that you would
see the Ninth Circuit of Appeals based in San Francisco
side with the Republican president and on top of that
Trump in the first place.

Speaker 5 (02:45):
No, I didn't. And and again it's interesting because, like
I said, we're going to see all kinds of cases
like this. As the President tries to go into Chicago,
you know these all of these acts are going to
be used again. I mean, the one thing, you know,
and some people say, well, he went into DC. The
president does have direct authority over DC National Guard. You know,

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the DC is actually under you know, federal territories, so
the president has the ability to do that. He's now
crossing a few lines when he goes into some of
these other areas and plume Daddy. Like I said, I
love what he's doing. And I'm sure if I lived
in those cities, I love what he's doing. The only
thing I always worry about is how about the next

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president who decides just to do it for his reasons
or her reasons alone. And now all of a sudden
they say, well, you know, president Trump did it, we
can do it. Too, So at some point in time,
I do hope we get some of this straightened out
so that the federal government doesn't in fringe too far
into States rights.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
Talking to Jim orn Acy, former congressman Bloomdaddy Show political
analysts speaking of Trump, is crime crackdown in major cities?
You got Chicago's mayor saying, and I'm quoting here, we
don't want to see tanks in our streets and grandmothers
thrown into the back of unmarked vans. Seriously, Jim, I
mean when we talk about pushing false narratives, when we
talk about inciting hate, what is what is Chicago's mayor

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doing here? I mean, what is Brandon Johnson doing. He's
lying there hasn't been one take in the street, and
there hasn't been one grandmother thrown into the back of
an unmarked van.

Speaker 5 (04:22):
Well, I would agree with you, and this is political grandstanding.
I wish he would just come.

Speaker 6 (04:26):
Out and say, I don't it's danger groups here? Oh
yeah no, but look and it happens all the time.
And look I can blame Republicans on some in some
cases too that say certain things. We've got to get
back to normalization and You're right, these are dangerous comments
that are being made. That's why I wish he would
just cite the law, say hey, based on passe commatatis act,

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I do not want federal forces in my city enforcing,
you know, the laws that we should be enforcing. That's
probably the right thing to say. But these politicians all
grandstand to try and get their point across and hopefully
get some television time.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
Jim, speaking of points across, is this brilliant by Trump
sending in the National Guard doing this stuff, Because what
he's doing, he's forcing Democrats in very liberal cities to
basically stand up and say, we don't want these people
in here, even though residents want it, even though their

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crime rates are up. He's basically forcing democratic leaders to
side with crime in a roundabout sort of way.

Speaker 5 (05:36):
Well, one hundred percent agree with you that one day.
About President Trump, he is the great when it comes
to showmanship, and he's great in diverting the conversation. I mean,
just think about it. Thirty days ago, you know, we
were all talking about the Epstein files. We were talking
about we I'm talking about the press, and that seemed
to be the story of the day. Now he's switched it,

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and you know, as inflation is really starting to creep up,
he switched the stories and he switched it back, forcing
the Democrats to have to answer to something that they
don't want to, that they definitely don't want to talk
about because there is crime in the city and most
of these cities are Democrat controlled, and you know, it
forces them to have to say some things that they

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really don't want to say. But at the same time,
it changes the discussion points too, and that's what President
Trump is great at is moving the ball forward and
changing the discussion and what we are, what we were
talking about, becomes past history very quickly.

Speaker 4 (06:34):
Jim, thanks for the time.

Speaker 5 (06:37):
Thank you.

Speaker 7 (06:39):
A couple things on that I wanted to hit on,
first of all, towards the end there Blim Daddy and
mister Reneesi, we're talking about the verbiage used. Let's take
a step back and let's just acknowledge how politicians on
both sides have now put into their repertoire are gaslighting.

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That's what they're doing. And mister Berneci had a good
point there that it's TV time. It's about once again
headlines and viral clips, and they're using gas lighting verbiage,
like bloom Daddy pointed out the comment about you know,
Grandma's being thrown in the back of unmarked vans. That's

(07:24):
not happening. We know it's not happening. But the more
dramatic of the description or the verbiage that is used
get you on TV makes you look as if you
are the most concerned politician out there because they're attacking grandma.
So I just kind of wanted to highlight that. The

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other thing is this is about cleaning up crime. If
you can't do the job on a city level or
a state level, then the federal government wants to come
in and do it for you. And the people want it.
That's the thing. The people want it. And I think

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the biggest overall point in this particular conversation when it
comes to Chicago and the cleaning up crime in major cities,
is the fact that we have seen leadership from the
Oval Office in below politicians who have talked a lot

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of talk, they have not actually walked the walk and
done anything which has gotten us to where we are,
especially once again in major cities, the crime levels we
were at. This is shock for a lot of people

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because President Trump is doing what he said he would do.
We're not lip service anymore, folks, It's not lip service.
So what are they trying to do? Throw it all
in the courts, to drag it out, so once again
nothing can actually be accomplished. That's the shock for a

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lot of these politicians. That's the shock. I'll leave you
with a number Chicago five hundred and seventy three murders
in the year of twenty twenty four, five hundred and
seventy three. But there's not a problem. There's not a
problem in Chicago. Nope, nope. We have a busy show
on tap. We're gonna have representatives from gold Corey and

(09:38):
Turak here talking about the latest in the drama surrounding
East O High Regional Hospital and where one of their
where their suit made headway late last week. We're gonna
get into details with that. And of course it's Wednesday,
so we've got politics unleashed. It's seven point sixteen on
of course, your Wednesday. The bluem Daddy Experience Sam and

(09:59):
Otis News Radio eleven seventy WWVA, Welcome back, seven twenty
one The Blue Daddy Experienced Sam and Otis News Radio
eleven seventy WWVA. As we said, we got a busy
show coming up for you. Coming up shortly. We're gonna

(10:21):
have the conversation with representatives from gold Corey and Turek
and mister le Rose from Deuroz I'm sorry, from Columbus
Law firm, who are representing the former employees of East
Ohio Regional Hospital. We're gonna have a conversation with them
and update again on what transpired at the end of

(10:42):
last week. Along with that, we have politics on lease.
So something political you want to get into, please reach
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But along with all of that, we've got chances to
wind this morning. We've got plenty of chances to win. Otis,
what are we doing?

Speaker 3 (11:12):
I have no idea. We're doing uh rafter Amrina, we
are doing McCormick's auto anything else.

Speaker 7 (11:20):
Okay, I've got some bubble gum here.

Speaker 3 (11:22):
We're not doing it.

Speaker 7 (11:23):
We're not doing that. No, No, somebody left us a
big box of that's uh, downstairs.

Speaker 3 (11:29):
Courtesy of mister Bomber.

Speaker 7 (11:30):
Ah okay, okay, Hey, he goes through that like like
we go through water. I don't know. Ah. So we
were talking about crime a little bit prior to the
break with Chicago and everything happening on a national level.
Wheeling's going to be in spotlight next Friday.

Speaker 3 (11:53):
Starting next Friday on Patrol Live will be we'll have
their camera crews with the Wheeling PD. If you've never
seen on Patrol Live, it is on the Reels network
on the weekends live from nine to midnight on Friday
and Saturday nights.

Speaker 7 (12:08):
I've seen clips of it.

Speaker 3 (12:09):
I think, Uh, you know, before the George Floyd incident,
it was it was called Live PD and then they
shut down and you know, for political correctness, I believe,
and then it got picked up by Reels under got rebranded.
It's on Patrol Live, and I mean, I watch it.

Speaker 7 (12:33):
So this is not Cops.

Speaker 3 (12:35):
This is it's a it's a it's a version. I
mean Cops was what started it years ago?

Speaker 7 (12:41):
Is that even still on?

Speaker 3 (12:43):
I believe it is. I don't know if it's current,
but I mean there's definitely reruns of it. But what
they did what they did with cops was it was
all recorded and then if you were on there, you
had to sign a waiver and that's how you got
That's how they did it. This is right on the spot, so.

Speaker 7 (13:06):
It's when they say it's live, it's legitimately.

Speaker 3 (13:08):
I mean, it's probably there's probably a delay. There's probably
a thirty second delay. It's it's not much. I think
it's there to protect people as well. You know, one,
it's there for language. Two it's there so like when
they're calling in a person's name on the radio, they
don't give the person's last name or address or something
of that nature, or their license number or birth date.

(13:31):
There's a lot of things that they kind of and
then I mean you'll see there'll be there'll be times
when they're stabbings or shootings or something and possibly a fatality,
and so they're very cautious on how they handle that
as well. So I mean like they'll be on scene,
but a lot of times the cameras hang back and
give you a long shot as opposed to any of

(13:53):
the close ups. But you see warrants being served, you
see high speed chases, you see those speed chases, you
see people getting pulled over for you know, tail lights
and the next thing you know, they're going through a dui.

Speaker 6 (14:07):
Right.

Speaker 3 (14:09):
There's a lot I mean a lot of it's just
kind of basic. But you know, and you'll see some
crazy stuff too, and you'll see some funny stuff.

Speaker 5 (14:16):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (14:17):
Some of the regular police officers, there's one out of
Daytona has a great sense of humor. Sometimes you know,
he'll just he'll say something and if you're not paying attention,
you can miss it. But he you know, he's got
to got like a little sarcastic. Yeah, yeah, you know
he could. You know, like he'll say something to somebody

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or he'll make a comment because after after they get
through everything, normally the officer that is involved, you know,
we'll talk to the camera and say, okay, hey, look
this is what happened. Blah blah blah. We pulled him
over for this. We smelled marijuana in the car.

Speaker 8 (14:56):
You know.

Speaker 3 (14:56):
There's a guy at Columbia, South Carolina, Danny something Rather.
I mean, his his nose for marijuana is better than
any bloodhound or German shepherd that you can. I mean,
like he's like, if there's marijuana within one hundred yards,
he's got.

Speaker 7 (15:14):
It now that Now, how many people do you think
And I'm not saying do this and Wheeling will try
to get on TV somehow.

Speaker 3 (15:24):
Oh, there's no doubt. I just said it to you.
I said, we'll be driving around next Friday, see if
we can get on TV.

Speaker 7 (15:31):
Well, and you always knew with Cops if they showed
up with the canine unit, it was like let him go,
like open that door.

Speaker 3 (15:39):
And I mean you see, you see chases, you see
I mean, you see steakouts. I mean there's all kinds
of things you see on this show. I mean it's
so it's it's definitely entertaining.

Speaker 7 (15:48):
It'll be an insight into if.

Speaker 3 (15:50):
You've never seen it. It's a good you know. Obviously
next week when they're in Wheeling, that'll be a good
time to now, I mean that was that was life.

Speaker 4 (15:59):
But that was the Patrol life.

Speaker 7 (16:01):
Okay, okay, okay. And it's on reels and it's happening
next Friday.

Speaker 3 (16:06):
From nine live PD.

Speaker 7 (16:07):
It's called on Patrol now yeah, oh okay, yeah, next
Friday from nine.

Speaker 3 (16:14):
Oh, it's on this it's on this week too. But
they're not going to be a Wheeling Wheeling episode.

Speaker 7 (16:18):
Yeah, nine pm two and they normally.

Speaker 3 (16:20):
Stick with it. They'll they'll stick with the police force,
you know, and they'll follow normally two officers around in
each in each area that they go.

Speaker 7 (16:31):
So I wonder what they do if it's a slow night.

Speaker 3 (16:33):
They go to another area.

Speaker 7 (16:36):
Oh, they'll bump in, Yes.

Speaker 3 (16:38):
I mean they flout around. So I mean they'll go
to where the action is.

Speaker 7 (16:41):
Oh, maybe I'll have to watch it. I don't know.
If I have reels, I don't have to look, just
to get an idea of what it's going to be like.
So again, that's happening next Friday, wheeling police hitting the
TV screens.

Speaker 8 (16:54):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (16:55):
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(17:25):
back on your Wednesday morning, seven thirty six. The bloom
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chances for you to win throughout the show, so stay

(17:47):
tuned for that. Now I want to get into the
conversation about the latest updates on East O Higher Regional Hospital.
Joining me in studio Michelle maren Acy with gold Corey
in turn, and then also via our phone lines, we
have got Bob Durouz from Columbus, from the Barkin Mechlash

(18:09):
and Derou's Law firm out of Columbus. Good morning, good morning,
Good morning, Bob, how are you.

Speaker 3 (18:18):
Well, Good morning, good morning.

Speaker 7 (18:19):
Thank you so much for taking the time this morning,
both of you for coming in studio and jumping on
the phone lines with us. So before we get into
the most recent activity, last time you joined us here
in studio to talk about this, you were filing to
add another person into the current lawsuit. Could you give
us a status update on that situation?

Speaker 9 (18:43):
Yes, on I think it was August twenty second, the
court granted our motion to amend, officially adding Nathan Johnson.

Speaker 10 (18:50):
Ark Bridge Capital and a couple of other of.

Speaker 9 (18:53):
The Access Ohio related entities as official defendants in the
class actions.

Speaker 7 (18:58):
So that has been a proof. So moving forward, all
those additional entities are going to be involved in correct. Okay? Okay.
So last week or the end of last week, pretty
you know, a new filing went in front of the
court system and you came out on top. So involuntary bankruptcy. So,

(19:22):
mister Deroz, can you first explain to our listeners what
is involuntary bankruptcy and how does it benefit the former
employees that you're representing.

Speaker 8 (19:34):
Well, an involuntary bankruptcy is when one of the predators
asked the court to appoint a interim trustee and to
take over the assets to protect the creditor's interests. In
this case, for us, it's the four hundred and some
employees who were.

Speaker 11 (19:58):
Left without a job and actually work for several months
about May, and to protect their rights, their claims for
their wages, we filed the volunteering vankruptcy petitions.

Speaker 7 (20:11):
Okay, And there there's a lot of of course, this
is a big conversation all across the High Valley. It's
affected so many people. There's a lot of i'll say confusion.
So when we talk about this particular filing, so is
this going for former owner doctor Johnson? Is this new

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owner Harold Ramsey? There there's multiple entities tied to all
of these different names. So can you explain who exactly
this lawsuit is I don't want to say going after,
but accusing to get the funds back for the former employees?

Speaker 10 (20:51):
Okay?

Speaker 8 (20:53):
If if you're referring to the bankruptcy, it's only against
East Ohio Hospital l Okay that was once owned by
doctor Johnson is now owned by Harold Ramsey. Okay. Only
that's the only entity that the bankruptcy was foins.

Speaker 7 (21:11):
Okay, So for other forms other parts of the other lawsuit,
are the other names pulledents into that?

Speaker 10 (21:20):
No? No, okay, No, it is just East Ohio Hospital.
Who is the W two employer?

Speaker 7 (21:27):
Okay? And what are so now that the involuntary bankruptcy
has been approved? What are the.

Speaker 9 (21:35):
Steps I'm gonna correct you a little bit, Okay, Please,
the petition has been filed.

Speaker 7 (21:40):
Okay.

Speaker 9 (21:40):
There was a hearing on Friday to appoint the interim trustee.

Speaker 10 (21:46):
To secure the assets.

Speaker 9 (21:47):
Okay, East Ohio still has thirty days to respond to
our petition for involuntary bankruptcy. They have the opportunity to
either agree, consent to it, or even move forward reorganizing
which would help facilitate the opening of the hospital under
the oversight of the court.

Speaker 7 (22:06):
Okay, So what now with the approval of the trustee,
what will that trustee be doing?

Speaker 9 (22:15):
The first steps are the trustee is going to secure
all the assets and start looking at the financials, see
where the money is, where what assets and liabilities there are?

Speaker 7 (22:27):
Okay, okay, So in those steps, as money is collected,
because out there, and I've brought this to the forefront,
there is money being collected. There are phone calls being made.
The question is, and I've had a lot of people
reach out to me because they have been contacted by

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collection agencies, not exactly sure who these people are representing
East Ohio saying you O two thousand dollars or whatever
the figure is. Where has that money gone? That's a
huge question a lot of people have.

Speaker 10 (23:05):
That's a question we have as well.

Speaker 7 (23:06):
Okay, is that what the trustee is is sort of
to secure where that money goes.

Speaker 10 (23:11):
The trustee has statutory duties.

Speaker 9 (23:14):
We don't really want to go into what the trustee
will or will not do because we don't know. That's
beyond what we can say. We don't know where the
bank involuntary bankruptcy is going to go. It was filed
to secure a priority for the employees' wages.

Speaker 8 (23:31):
Okay, So under the law, to your question, it really
goes right to your question, where's the money been going?
And so we wanted to court a neutral to be
overseeing it. So that's the money that's being collected as
going to the right places to not only pay the creditors,

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most notably for us the workers, but help the hospital
actually open right now.

Speaker 7 (23:58):
Okay. And I'm glad you said that, mister Deroz, because
conversations that I have had with folks who have been
contacted being told they owe funds to East Ohio. They
have asked the people on the phone and said, okay,
so if I send you a five hundred dollars check,
can you tell me where these funds are going? And

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they don't get a straight answer, and and you know,
people are asking, do do they pay these these quote unquote?
And I use that loosely in quotation marks what they're
being told are invoices.

Speaker 9 (24:35):
Okay, what I can tell you is we don't know
where the money is going for the six months that
this case. You know, we've had this case since the
hospital closed. There's been no effort whatsoever to pay the
employees' wages. They have said, there's a plan, we'll do this,
we'll give you financials.

Speaker 10 (24:55):
It's never happened.

Speaker 9 (24:57):
So the employees had we had to take this out
action to secure a priority for the wages in any
bankruptcy proceeding.

Speaker 7 (25:04):
And mister Deroze, you mentioned the opening of the hospital.
Now there's a lot of excuse me, there's a lot
of concern that well a lot of these these these
filings or lawsuits will delay the opening. Do you have
any comments on that.

Speaker 8 (25:23):
I can't comment as to whether it will delay it
or not. Our concern is to make sure that the
people who as the hospital closed abruptly get paid for
the work that they did. We would very much like
to see that the hospital become a success and reopened,

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but we're focused on getting the individuals paid for the
work that they performed. And we were certainly willing to
as long as it advances the case for our clients
and getting back their wages. You know, we're certainly willing
to work with anybody to have a global success in

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the in the in the region.

Speaker 9 (26:06):
And Sam, what what the bankruptcy can do is help
facilitate the reopening by having court oversight to make sure
there is a legitimate plan, a viable plan for the
reopening which satisfies everyone and.

Speaker 10 (26:22):
Pays the back way.

Speaker 9 (26:23):
Just because here's the question, how is that hospital going
to open without employees? The employees haven't been paid. Do
they really want to cut the employee?

Speaker 8 (26:34):
They do?

Speaker 4 (26:34):
They?

Speaker 10 (26:34):
Excuse me?

Speaker 9 (26:35):
They really think the employees are going to come back
and work for free?

Speaker 10 (26:39):
Again?

Speaker 7 (26:40):
Can you hold that such? You have ten more minutes
to spend with us. Sure, okay, wonderful. We're gonna jump
to a quick break because there's a couple other things
I want to hint on while I have your time
this morning. So once again, I appreciate both of you
hanging out with us this morning to talk about this
ongoing unfortunate situation that is affecting our entire valley. So
it is seven forty you're listening to the bloom Daddy Experience,

(27:02):
samon Otis News Radio eleven seventy WWVA. Welcome back to
the bloom Daddy Experience, samon Otis News Radio eleven seventy WWVA.
Continuing our conversation with Michelle Marey Naci and Bob Derouze,

(27:24):
both representing former employees of East Ohio Regional Hospital. New
developments happened late last week, so getting in of course
discussing that this is something that is very important to
a lot of people. So first off, I'm going to
go back to you, mister deroz I want can you
please point out the key points with this bankruptcy bankruptcy

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filing that will benefit the former employees.

Speaker 8 (27:52):
Well, I think the key point is what Michelle said earlier,
is that into your question where's the money being owing?
This gives this gives transparency to the process that's going
on if money is being collected. Having a neutral having
a bankruptcy trustee overseeing the process will ensure that the

(28:19):
when payment of the creditors, and for us, that's the
workers that we represent who aren't paid, but should get
them on a path that once they clear their creditors
to reopen the hospital.

Speaker 7 (28:33):
And one thing noted in the paperwork you provided is
priority status. And that was one of my questions when
planning for this interview. As money is collected and as
the trustee oversees this, what is the I guess I
would say importance level of who gets paid first. So

(28:56):
with this priority status monikers, does that make the former
employees is kind of top of the list for receiving funds?

Speaker 10 (29:03):
No?

Speaker 8 (29:03):
No, yeah, got have bob oh yeah sure, No, you
know it's uh, we are an unsecured creditor. And for
your listeners, what that means is that you know, uh,
they are secure creditors, those that gave the entities that
ran East Ohio Regional Hospital money with a security guarantee,

(29:29):
they have priority one. Everybody else he's not a secure
creditor basically has equal status unless you unless there are
certain circumstances that occur. And by filing by last Thursday,
we the employees unpaid wages became a priority of everybody

(29:49):
after the secure creditors. The way I explained it to
people is that it's like an airplane. The secure creditor
is a first class and everybody behind that curtain are
your unsecure creditors. What we were able to do is
to move the employees basically the business class. We're not
first class, but we're ahead of everybody else.

Speaker 9 (30:10):
Yeah, So we are now the top of the heap
of the unsecured creditors. Okay, So secured creditors would get compensated,
then us, then the rest of the unsecured creditors by
what assets there are?

Speaker 7 (30:22):
Okay? And and now I know that you're not involved
in this particular filing, but most recently a couple of
weeks ago, Belmont Savings Bank has now thrown I've gotten involved.
What they seem to be looking for also is a
trustee scenario? Is it very similar to what you?

Speaker 8 (30:41):
Yes?

Speaker 10 (30:42):
So what well?

Speaker 9 (30:43):
Or if the bankruptcy court would grant the petition for bankruptcy,
I believe the Belmont County.

Speaker 10 (30:50):
Proceedings will get rolled into our proceedings.

Speaker 9 (30:52):
Okay, Well, everything will be in federal court in front
of one trustee in one court, and the.

Speaker 7 (30:56):
Majority of people that I have spoken to or who
I've heard from, you know, their top priority are the
former employees. And of course there are the back taxes
for Belmont County because that filters down into so many entities,
not only in Martin's Ferry, but Belmont County, but the
employees are are top of mind for everybody.

Speaker 10 (31:16):
So I want to clarify the back tax issue will.

Speaker 9 (31:19):
Not be impacted by the bankruptcy ok at this point
because Access Martin's Ferry is who owns the property and
owes the taxes, so that is a separate entity from
East Ohio Hospital. So we only have East Ohio Hospital
in this action. The proceedings against Access to Martin's Ferry

(31:40):
and the property taxes I believe will still be going
forward in Okay County.

Speaker 7 (31:45):
And that's where it gets confusing for a lot of people.

Speaker 10 (31:47):
It gets very it's confusing for us.

Speaker 7 (31:50):
And through all of this, of course, I have many
legal documents of that people have provided me, and boy,
you all speak a different language in it's paperwork. I mean,
it is quite a learning moment for myself. I will
say that one question that I have received from a
lot of people doctor Johnson, the former owner, it seems

(32:15):
from outside looking in the sale of the property, the
sale of the business, the debts were all rolled into
that sale and he has almost and I'm not saying
this is what has happened, but from a lot of
people's point of view. He's rolled off into the sunset
with no responsibility. Are people seeing that properly? That's what's

(32:38):
angering to me.

Speaker 10 (32:39):
That's what he's trying to do.

Speaker 9 (32:41):
Yeah, part of the goals of our lawsuit with the
class action is to hold him responsible, accountability.

Speaker 7 (32:49):
That's what people want.

Speaker 9 (32:51):
How this all plays out, we can't predict. I can't
tell you what the court's going to do, but hopefully
I'm not speaking out term Bob, but I think Bob
and I both want accountability and transparency to everyone in
the valley.

Speaker 7 (33:08):
Yeah, and and.

Speaker 8 (33:13):
Yeah, no, so the so the you know, the what
Michelle said's correct. We we have added the Johnson's and
his son Nathan Johnson and some of their other entities
that were at play when they owned East Ohio Regional
Hospital at the time of the of the mass layoffs

(33:33):
and all the financial troubles running up to the closure,
and we still have them in the suit. We're still
going to pursue them. The bankruptcy only goes after the
the East o Higher Regional Hospital as it's currently comprised,
because they're, you know, the one's collecting the receivables at

(33:54):
this point. But we fully in this and the the
case against the Johnson's and the other entities will continue
to go forward.

Speaker 7 (34:03):
So when criminal charges are not being investigated, that is
when something like what you are doing representing the former
employees in thirty seconds, we have to wrap this up.

Speaker 9 (34:14):
Criminal and civil or two separate tracks. Yeah, our action
doesn't preclude a.

Speaker 10 (34:19):
Criminal action, and a criminal action doesn't preclude our action.

Speaker 7 (34:22):
And accountability is the goal, the goal. Well, mister Duroz, Sam.

Speaker 8 (34:28):
And Sam, I'm just going to close it. It is
wage Steph. Let's let's just be clear that's what has
happened with respect to these individuals being told to please
keep working. We're going to pay You're going to pay you,
and they continue to work and they weren't paid. It's
nothing short of wage stuff. Although we don't have the
ability to bring criminal charges, we are going after them.

Speaker 7 (34:48):
Civilly wonderful again, thank you so much for your time
this morning. This continues. It's seven point fifty eight. You're
listening to the Bloomdaddy Experience. Samon Otis News Radio eleven
seventy WWVAD.

Speaker 1 (35:07):
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Speaker 4 (35:22):
WWVA starts now news Radio eleven seventy. It's the bloom
Daddy Experience. Hey, it's eighth six. Let's get this hour rolling.

Speaker 2 (35:32):
Jim or n Acy, former Congressman, bloom Daddy Show political analysts.

Speaker 4 (35:35):
All right, let's talk some politics.

Speaker 2 (35:37):
District judge in San Francisco ruling the President Trump acted
unlawfully when he activated thousands of National Guard members. It
deployed a handful of Marines to face riots and protest
in California. Now, this guy was overruled by the Ninth
Circuit in San Francisco the first time he went this route,
which you know, the Ninth Circuit usually liberal as hell,

(35:58):
but they actually sided with Trump and then he goes
at it again.

Speaker 4 (36:02):
Is the judge correct?

Speaker 5 (36:05):
Well, it's interesting this time he ruled based on the
Posse Comatatas Act, which basically says that federal forces cannot
be used to enforce domestic law. So what's interesting in
this case. President Trump sent the troops in using the
Insurrection Act, where he said troops were needed without the

(36:28):
governor's consent, because there was a rebellion against ice agents.
So if you think about it, okay, that's the case,
and that was probably why it was ruled the one direction.
But now it's being overturned or pulled back because of
this as I say, Posse Comatatis Act, which basically says, okay,
once the president takes the troops and puts them in

(36:52):
they cannot and they're federalized, then they're still subject to
this act, which means they cannot be used to enforce
domestic law. So I think that's really what the next
appeal is going to be. And it's interesting because we're
going to have all these cases going forward as President
Trump continues to do some pretty unique things. You know,

(37:13):
we're going to have rulings and and one ruling is
going to mount to one thing and then we're going
to go to this other. So again, I guess the
question is going to be when, when when he federalized
the troops, did they actually were they actually used to
enforce domestic law? And if that was the case, then
the judge will probably be right if if this act

(37:35):
is held is you know, held up, did you.

Speaker 2 (37:38):
Ever think in your lifetime that you would see the
Ninth Circuit of Appeals based in San Francisco side with
the Republican president and on top of that Trump in
the first place.

Speaker 5 (37:52):
No, I didn't. And and again it's interesting because, like
I said, we're going to see all kind of cases
like this. As the President tries to go into Chicago,
go you know these all of these acts are going
to be used again. I mean, the one thing, you know,
and some people say, well, he went into d C.
The president does have direct authority over d C National Guard.

(38:13):
You know, the d C is actually under you know,
federal territory, so the president has the ability to do that.
He's now crossing a few lines when he goes into
some of these other areas and ploom daddy. Like I said,
I love what he's doing. And I'm sure if I
lived in those cities, I love what he's doing. The
only thing I always worry about is how about the

(38:33):
next president who decides just to do it for his
reasons or her reasons alone, And now all of a
sudden they say, well, you know, President Trump did it,
we can do it too. So at some point in time,
I do hope we get some of this straightened out
so that the federal government doesn't in fringe too far
into States rights.

Speaker 2 (38:52):
Talking to Jim or Acy, former Congressman Bloomdaddy Show political
analysts speaking of Trump, is crime crackdown in major cities?
You got Chicago's Mayor's saying, and I'm quoting here, we
don't want to see tanks in our streets and grandmothers
thrown into the back of unmarked vans. Seriously, Jim, I
mean when we talk about pushing false narratives, when we
talk about inciting hate, what is what is Chicago's mayor

(39:19):
doing here?

Speaker 4 (39:20):
I mean, what is Brandon Johnson doing?

Speaker 2 (39:21):
He's lying there hasn't been one tank in the street
and there hasn't been one grandmother thrown into the back
of an unmarked van.

Speaker 5 (39:29):
Well, I would agree with you, and this is political grandstanding.
I wish he would just come out and say, I
thought it's dangerous here. Oh yeah no, but look and
it happens all the time. And look, I can blame
Republicans on some in some cases too, that say certain things.
We've got to get back to normalization, and you're right,
these are dangerous comments that are being made. That's why

(39:51):
I wish he would just cite the law, say, hey,
based on passe commatatis act, I do not want federal
forces in my city enforcing, you know, the laws that
we should be enforcing. That's probably the right thing to say.
But these politicians all grandstand to try and get their
point across and hopefully get some television time.

Speaker 2 (40:12):
Jim, speaking of points across, is this brilliant by Trump
sending in the National Guard doing this stuff, Because what
he's doing he's forcing Democrats in very liberal cities to
basically stand up and say, we don't want these people
in here, even though residents want it, even though their

(40:32):
crime rates are up. He's basically forcing democratic leaders to
side with crime in a roundabout sort of way.

Speaker 5 (40:44):
Well, one hundred percent agree with you that one thing
about President Trump. He is the great when it comes
to showmanship, and he's great in diverting the conversation. I mean,
just think about it. Thirty days ago, you know, we
were all talking about the Epstein files. We were talking
about we I'm talking about the press, and that seemed
to be the story of the day. Now he switched it,

(41:05):
and you know, as inflation is really starting to creep up,
he switched the stories and he switched it back, forcing
the Democrats to have to answer to something that they
don't want it that they definitely don't want to talk
about because there is crime in the city, and most
of these cities are Democrat controlled, and you know, it
forces them to have to say some things that they

(41:27):
really don't want to say. But at the same time,
it changes the discussion points too. And that's what President
Trump is great at is moving the ball forward and
changing the discussion and what we are, what we were
talking about, becomes past history very quickly.

Speaker 4 (41:42):
Jim, thanks for the time.

Speaker 5 (41:44):
Thank you.

Speaker 7 (41:49):
Welcome back on this Wednesday's eight seventeen The Blue Dotty Experience.
Sam and Otis News Radio eleven seventy WWVA busy, busy morning,
and we're not yet because it is Wednesday, so it's
time for politics Unleashed and a familiar voice is back
with us. Elgin mccardo. Good morning.

Speaker 3 (42:11):
Nope, sorry go ahead, I had your mic turned down.

Speaker 12 (42:15):
I'm sorry, col I be good morning. How are you?

Speaker 7 (42:18):
How are you?

Speaker 3 (42:19):
We're great since we woke up at four o'clock this
morning to text.

Speaker 13 (42:22):
Messages, Hey, welcome to my life.

Speaker 3 (42:26):
Yeah, well it doesn't have to be mine.

Speaker 7 (42:28):
Oh well, go ahead, go ahead.

Speaker 3 (42:34):
No, I wake up. I hear peepee and I look
up and it's like that text message from Elgin. I'm like,
are you kidding me? At four o'clock in the morning,
Like you couldn't have waited an hour?

Speaker 7 (42:45):
No, nope, I was already up, So I was up
to so just I just like he just wants he
just wants to complain. But tell everybody you know, we haven't.
You've been very busy the past couple of weeks. We
have went you know last week again, thank you to
west Pay for stepping in during the segment for you.
But you have been It's not like you've been on

(43:05):
a vacation. You've been very, very involved in a trial
down south. If you want to give people an update
on what's been happening.

Speaker 12 (43:13):
Yes, yes, I was actually involved in defending.

Speaker 13 (43:20):
A client involved accused of murder in a trial that
lasted two weeks and the jury deliberated approximately ten hours
and we got a hung jury.

Speaker 12 (43:33):
The prosecution to everything that they tried to, everything on
the wall that they could possibly throw, and they did
not meet their burden and my client was not convicted.
S full fans not convicted of these alleged crimes, and
he is one, and I will maintain that through I

(43:53):
guess another trial if the state decides to do so.

Speaker 7 (43:57):
That's what I was going to ask you. So, now
that this trial has come into you know, landed in
a hung jury, it is now up to the prosecution
correct to whether go back to trial or go to
a not settlement, a plea deal please, okay, okay? And
what do you think they'll need to deal?

Speaker 12 (44:18):
Dismissal or retry? Just just the attitude of the prosecution
in this case, I think they'll retry it. But it's
the biggest place of money, especially since the actual shooter
and murderer in the case confessed to it and said
my client wasn't involved. That was part of the testimony
that came out at trial. So I don't know why

(44:39):
they're going through with this other than their whatever ego
we're going to call it ego.

Speaker 7 (44:45):
As an attorney in a case like this murder when
it comes to a hung jury, are you given the
jurors answers like is it a six to six split?
Is it?

Speaker 12 (44:55):
You know?

Speaker 7 (44:55):
Are you told how they came down numerically?

Speaker 12 (44:59):
We did not, and that really is a preferential thing
with the judges. Some judges asked the jury to come in,
you know afterwards, just with the judge to see what
the criticism, What could have done been done better? What
could have been done you know differently this case was
there was there was a lot of legal wrangling and

(45:19):
objections and whatnot. At one point the judge the jury
actually sent a note to the judge asking why they
were in the jury room more than they were in
the courtroom, kind of like the Sleeve said, mhm. So
it was just you know that when when the prosecutor
tries to introduce things that are just not not permissible

(45:41):
under the law, then there there becomes a lot of
bench conferences so that you can try to keep things
outside the hearing of the jury. So, you know, there's that.
It was. It was very grueling and intensive, you know,
especially to be and not to be home fortuities and
flying a case on the road.

Speaker 7 (46:03):
Yeah, definitely how long has this gone on from you?
For you from start to finish, not just the trial itself,
but everything. Just to give people an idea because you
know a lot of us watch true crime documentaries and
it's like the last forty minutes is all about the
courtroom stuff. But for an attorney defending somebody or the prosecution,
how long? How long did this last?

Speaker 8 (46:26):
Well?

Speaker 12 (46:27):
He was first indicted in June of twenty twenty four,
and interestingly enough, after the shooter was convicted of second
degree murder by virtue of his testimony that he acted
alone and basically in self defense, that his verdict came
back in January of twenty twenty five. After the individual

(46:50):
who was the actual shooter, who confessed a shooter, and
who was convicted of the murder, was convicted in January
of twenty twenty five. Ten days later, the prosecution decided
to indict my client her first degree murder despite the
fact that they had a second degree verdict. It's it's

(47:11):
it has been a very catching, grueling, long detailed battles
which will continue.

Speaker 7 (47:22):
So understandably otis we we will give her a pass
that she has, you know, been been off with us
for a couple of weeks. I mean, she's been legitimately,
can give her.

Speaker 12 (47:36):
Oh that's right, you were in Amsterdam.

Speaker 4 (47:38):
I was, Yeah, I was, I was.

Speaker 3 (47:40):
I was traveling Europe like a college kids Europe.

Speaker 12 (47:44):
But but yeah, but you get a pass right.

Speaker 3 (47:47):
Thanks.

Speaker 7 (47:49):
Oh shoot, well, we're glad to have you back. Interesting
you've we've been you know, Otis and I have of
course been following the case. You've been sending us a
lot of the articles, so it has been fascinating. I've
never known somebody to actually be somebody who's defended somebody
from murder, so for me, I find it incredibly interesting.
I wanted to let everybody know what has been going

(48:10):
on a little bit behind the scenes. So I want
to let's get into the politics stuff that's you know,
it is called politics on Leach. So last week, right
last week, when we didn't get a chance to talk, obviously,
one of the big things that I want your legal
perspective on this topic was the executive order that President

(48:32):
Trump put out in regards to flag burning.

Speaker 3 (48:35):
Now.

Speaker 7 (48:35):
I don't want to go too much into this because
we really talked about this last week, But from a
legal perspective, do you think it will stand up?

Speaker 12 (48:45):
I think it will. I actually read the executive order,
and the executive order is couched in such a manner
that it aligned with the First Amendment constitutional law case
in principles, and that is that in and of itself

(49:05):
flag burning. The executive Order does not flag make flag
burning in and of itself a climb. However, to the
extent that flag burning is associated with something that incites violence.
So just like the First Amendment, you're not allowed to
yell fire in a crowded theater, right, that's not a
First Amendment right that that's been ruled upon. So if

(49:29):
it incites violence, then then it can be tacked on
as to another state law or another law, almost as
an enhancement for purposes of sentencing. The other thing that
I thought was interested in the executive order is that
if a foreign national who is an illegal immigrant burns

(49:51):
a flag in the United States, it's caused the deportation.
So it basically he has used. The executive order uses
the the flag burning and the disrespect associated with the
flag burning in in Toto with another crime. So that's

(50:11):
why I think it will hold up in courtorate because
there's a lot of there's not chao, there's not a
lot of shall words in there. There's many words in there.
But when it does authorize the Attorney General and the
boj to prostitute to the highest extent of the law,
So that is a prerogative. That's a policy decision. So
with each administration, the attorney generals are given certain policy

(50:33):
directions on where they want the emphasis place for purposes
of prosecution. And this is the tool that has now
been added to the tool belt of prosecutors to enhance
sentences and promote respect for our flag.

Speaker 7 (50:49):
We have heard a lot. There's everything that this administration
attempts to do ends up in court, whether it's them,
whether it's the current administration or those that are fighting it.
And I'm gonna I'm gonna pose a question to you,
and then we're gonna go to a break, so I

(51:09):
want you to have time. I want you to think
about this. Are the court systems being weaponized? Is my question?
That both sides are using them inappropriately, I guess is
the term I want. I want to put out there
that they're either trying to stop something being accomplished by

(51:34):
the person put in the seat voted by the people
of this country, or they're using it to get their
agenda a cross. So I'm putting that in front of you.
I want you to think about it during our break
because I think it's kind of a it's a bit
of a loaded question. And maybe a bit of a
vague question. And I mean it to be so vague,
but I ask that because again, every time you turn around,

(51:57):
it's like, Nope, we're taking this to court. Nope, we're
taking this and that came out of Chicago yesterday. So
think about that during the break and we'll get into
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(52:19):
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(52:39):
Unleashed when we return here on news Radio eleven seventy WWVA.

Speaker 3 (52:50):
Eight thirty six. The Bloom Daddy Experience with Sam and
otis eleven seventy WWVA joining us El Jim mccardal for
Politics Unleashed. Sam had to step out of the room
for a second. I have no idea where she was
going because I wasn't paying attention when she ended the
last break.

Speaker 4 (53:08):
Yeah so Sam, Yeah, no, So.

Speaker 3 (53:12):
I mean I believe she was talking about, you know,
the lower court judges and every time Trump makes a decision,
you know, it seems like it's being overturned.

Speaker 12 (53:22):
Yes, well it's it's there is just absolutely no reason
to use the court system for every thing that comes
every issue that comes up. You know, there are laws
in place, and there is a politicive politicis whatever that
word is, cusation, politicalization of the system, which shouldn't be.

(53:43):
I mean, yes, the judiciary is the third branch of government. Yes,
the judiciary is there to interpret the laws. But when
laws have been interpreted already on the books, and you know,
laws are in place, and it's just nearly used as
a weapon, I'm going to call it a weapon to
stall the system, then then it's an abusive process because

(54:05):
there's so many other things and important things and issues
that have merit and cases that have merits that are
that need to be addressed by the by the judges,
and it's not being done.

Speaker 8 (54:16):
You know.

Speaker 12 (54:16):
I think Trump indicated that the process is the punishment
when they were going after him in such heated manner
prior to the election, trying to get him to be
convicted so that he couldn't run, et cetera. I mean
that was an overreach. And it's the process. It's sort
of like my client. The process is the punishment. If

(54:39):
you're an innocent person and you are being accused of
a crime and you have to fight a battle, you know,
you lose. You lose your ability to make uh make
an income or to make money, you lose your ability
to support your family. You are distracted, and quite frankly,
if you don't have the means like President Trump did

(55:00):
to fight all those things, and then you're then you're
forced to fight a battle with basically one hand tied
behind your back, because the public defenders have lots of
cases as well that they need to address.

Speaker 3 (55:12):
And it's just it.

Speaker 12 (55:14):
It's just the process is the punishment. And by the
same token, the process is the punishment to the taxpayer,
to the American people when you can't just the American
people elected President Trump for his policies and he is
implementing those and to challenge him at every step of
the way, one step forward, two steps back, and eventually

(55:36):
he wins. But then you have to go through the
lower court, uh judges who were appointed by Biden, and
I think Schumer even said that that that is exactly
what they were they did. They made sure to stack
the judges in a manner that if Trump won, they
would be able to stop him at least temporarily to
buy some time before the midterm. So it is is

(55:57):
it politicalization?

Speaker 8 (55:58):
Yes?

Speaker 12 (55:59):
Absolutely, it is. Is an abuse of the process, yes,
it is, so, I think I answered Sam's question.

Speaker 3 (56:04):
Yeah, well, let's let's let's look at this too. I mean,
shouldn't there be a limit, like because some of these
are coming from lower level courts, the you know that
are they're they're filing these injunctions and so on. But
shouldn't shouldn't you have to be at a certain level
before you can file the injunction?

Speaker 13 (56:24):
Well?

Speaker 12 (56:25):
Yeah, well it's not necessarily a level. There are certain
elements that you have to satisfy to get an injunction,
So nothing prohibits you from filing one. But it's the
process of getting to the proof of whether you need
one or not that that takes the time. So no,

(56:45):
there is no there is no limit or level. Rather
that you know that you have to satisfy. It's just
any court has the ability to grant a temporary injunction
if you meet the elements of the you know that
it's an exigence circumstance that you don't have any other

(57:07):
remedy available, and the likelihood of success on appeal is
raising your favor. So you know, again, a lot of
times people just file things just to slow the system
by some time, which is unfortunate.

Speaker 3 (57:22):
And it just it just seems like it's it's one
after another. I mean, there's it's it's almost like it's
never ending.

Speaker 12 (57:29):
It isn't. It really isn't.

Speaker 8 (57:31):
It's just.

Speaker 12 (57:33):
If Trump says so, it can't be. So you know,
and that's that's that's what's happening. And it's it's unfortunate.
It's very unfortunate. And yeah, there's a lot of a
lot of attorneys make lots of money.

Speaker 3 (57:46):
Yeah, and unfortunately, you know, we're the ones that are
footing the.

Speaker 8 (57:49):
Bill for it.

Speaker 12 (57:50):
Well yeah, yeah, absolutely, absolutely, on all ends. I mean
obviously the judges are paid by the taxpayer dollars as well.
So you know, I wear, does it spot, where does
it stop? But that's where we are.

Speaker 7 (58:05):
Where does it stop? And Where does common sense come
into play? Is the biggest question I think people have
on their you know, on their minds. I mean, yesterday alone,
we we saw you know, Chicago, Uh I'm sorry, not
Chicago mayor. The governor basically vowed that they would sue
the Trump administration if if troops were deployed into Chicago.

(58:29):
So that is their first, their first weapon in their
arsenal when it comes to going against this administration. And
like you said, the tax dollars that are spent on
all of this is it's out of control.

Speaker 12 (58:43):
It is, it really is. Now, why would I mean,
going to the Chicago issue, why would you not want
the crime to stop? I mean, you know, so many
times Trump has repeatedly over and over again, I'm going
to do this and it's done, you know, either pushback,
but he promised to keep make America safe again. Uh,

(59:05):
DC is one under control? And how long did that
take a couple of weeks?

Speaker 8 (59:10):
Right?

Speaker 2 (59:10):
You know?

Speaker 12 (59:10):
And you know, I think I saw on oh gosh,
I think it was Fox This Morning where there was
a lady who started flip Chicago Red group and she
was speaking of the amount of black on black crimes,
women elderly children that are just being you know, done

(59:34):
down for no reason, you know, basically stray bullets or
whatever the case may be.

Speaker 8 (59:39):
But it is.

Speaker 12 (59:40):
It is a it's a war zone. It's a war zone,
and it needs to stop. And I don't why would
you not want that. I don't. I don't get why
you wouldn't want it.

Speaker 7 (59:50):
Well well as you as you said earlier, because it
comes out of the mouth of a man named Trump.
But I think, and I mentioned this at the top
of the show, I think a lot of what is
happening is I mean, you take the quotes that were
said by Johnson out of Chicago saying that we do
not want grandmothers thrown into the back of unmarked vans.

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We don't want to see homeless Chicagoans harassed or disappeared
by federal agents. They use these these off the wall
gas lighting type of statements right to get people all
routed up where they have no proof of anything like this.
They're not throwing you know, Sophia from the Golden Girls

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in the back of an unmarked van. That's so so
out of left field, but it does what it's supposed
to do. But I think another side of this is
that we are not used to, and other politicians are
not used to seeing a leader put into action what

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he said he is going to do. You used deced
season example, look at the border. How quickly did that take?
When the action is done, we see results. These politicians
aren't used to this.

Speaker 12 (01:01:12):
No, nor do they want it because they wanted you know,
they're they're basically campaign promises to to get elected. But
then the you know, the time that it takes them
to do what it is that they seek to do.
I think it's also laced with kickbacks, lobbyists, uh, you know,

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all that is in there as well. So I mean
it's I think in the first in his first administration,
Trump started to drain the swamp and he is actively
continuing to do so and and is getting a lot
of pushback.

Speaker 7 (01:01:49):
He's extended the swamp from just d c.

Speaker 12 (01:01:53):
Oh yeah, oh yes, it's it's to the whole United States.
You know, it's it's the whole MAGA movement.

Speaker 7 (01:02:00):
It's again, well, yeah, exactly. And everybody has seen the numbers.
It was updated this morning Chicago. Over Labor Day weekend,
fifty four shot eight as of today, have been killed.
That's in a three day weekend ladies and gentlemen. Just
a three day weekend. But there's not a problem in Chicago.
They don't need any help.

Speaker 12 (01:02:21):
No, no, stay out. Yeah, we handle our depth.

Speaker 8 (01:02:26):
Thank you very much.

Speaker 7 (01:02:27):
It's eight forty five. You're listening to the bloom Daddy Experience.
Samon Otis News Radio eleven seventy WWVA. Welcome back eight
fifty on your Wednesday morning. We're going to wrap up
politics Unleash with Elgie mccartal. She's joining us via phone.

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She has been one busy lady over the weekend. I
wanted to hit you with this, Elgin. Over the weekend.
It's circulated on social media that President Trump had passed away,
and it garnered a ridiculous amount of traffic in this
and that it was posed to him yesterday. What was

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shocking out of it was almost the enthusiasm behind it.
Did you ever think you'd see a day that people
would react that way to the possible loss of a
sitting president?

Speaker 12 (01:03:29):
Is it?

Speaker 7 (01:03:29):
Is it not disgusting?

Speaker 12 (01:03:32):
It is disgusting. It's a td you know, TDS in
its glory, we'll call it. It's a shame that anybody
would celebrate the death of anybody, much less the president
or the world, the leader of the pre world. It's

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and to circulate such a thing is this taseless, tathless, classless,
And those that rejoice in it are likewise placed into
the same category. I mean, to rejoice in somebody's downfall
is inappropriate under any circumstances.

Speaker 7 (01:04:11):
Well, I mean, I mean, we can even go back
to our conversations about President Biden at the time, you know,
we were we were pointing out his frailty. We were
pointing out, you know, his mental acuity, you know, falling
down the stairs. Was it sort of funny, yes, But
I remember saying myself multiple times, this is cruel this

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is you know, it came off as as senior cruelty.
Nobody wants to see that happen to anybody, right, And.

Speaker 12 (01:04:43):
Not only was it senior cruelty, I think we also
mentioned many times that it was it was a shame
that his family was allowing it to happen, you know,
and not standing up for him. You see, people need
to stand up for those that are not as less,
not as fortunate, not as physically capable, not as mentally.

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I mean, it's just too again to celebrate one's disabilities
or catastrophes or unfortunate circumstances. Is just I think it's
a true test of someone's I don't know character.

Speaker 7 (01:05:25):
Yeah, well yeah, and it's unfortunate that our political world
has gotten to that point. And that's what I was
gonna ask you. You know, we've gotten to a certain level.
Can we ever can we ever go back? It's it's
it's such a struggle because and I'll be honest, it
pops into my head because when I traveled out of

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the country, there was when people, you know, oh you're
from You're from the United States, and they would kind
of look at you and you know, are you a
Trump supporter. It's it's even gotten, you know, beyond our borders,
where that judgment is there from from outside, you know,
people from other countries.

Speaker 5 (01:06:06):
Right right.

Speaker 12 (01:06:07):
I mean, it's it's it's a shame. It's just a shame,
you know.

Speaker 5 (01:06:13):
And and whether.

Speaker 12 (01:06:15):
Abroad or at home domestically, there is also the characterization
or the term the ugly American, And again that comes
from the lack of travel, the lack of appreciation of
the country that you live in, and the opportunities that
are given to you in this in this in the

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United States, which you don't get elsewhere. And I don't
think people who have not traveled realized that. And it's
really easy for the plot to call the kettle black
when you have no idea, you know, and so you
know without beIN past the first stone.

Speaker 7 (01:06:56):
Well, and you're you're right because if you think about
all the people that you know, they came here illegally,
which completely disagree with. But there's a reason why they
want to come into this country.

Speaker 12 (01:07:07):
Right, right, But then they come into this country and
want to abuse the freedoms that are given here to
criticize the country that they want to be in. So
they want you know, it's the ultimate hypocriesy. You want
to take advantage of the capitalism, but yet you want
to be I don't know, a communists and socialists at

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the same time.

Speaker 7 (01:07:31):
It doesn't work both ways.

Speaker 12 (01:07:35):
Well, no, it doesn't work both ways, and they don't
fit in the same.

Speaker 3 (01:07:39):
The funny thing is when I was in Amsterdam, also
when I was in Dresden, the hate for Donald Trump
is unbelievable. Oh my gosh. The person that I stayed with,
his girlfriend, his neighbor all anti Trump, partially because they
don't understand, you know, they go on what they're fed

(01:08:02):
from the media. And there was a guy from Belgium
and a guy from England that were very anti Trump.
The guy from England not so much, okay, but you know,
and they were like, well, you know, we do you know,
you guys have a two party system and in Belgium
I think they have eight. In the Netherlands they have
like eighteen parties, you know, and when one party walks

(01:08:25):
out or two parties walk out, they can't get anything done.
So I mean, you know, I mean, you know, they
sit there and they criticize and they don't necessarily understand.
Like the one thing that they were talking about was
that I got into a conversation with what the person
I was saying was, you know that the fact that
these the illegals are being deported without any due process,

(01:08:47):
and I'm like, well, the thing is they are illegal aliens,
they are not US citizens. They do not have the
same rights as a US citizen. And their argument was,
but they have human rights, and I'm like, well, what
do you think is being happened? What do you think
is happening to these people. They're not being mistreated, they're
being sent home. Yeah, exactly, you know, I mean it's yeah,

(01:09:07):
you know, and and but but in their mind, they're
they're in a cage, they're you know, I mean, this
is how they're interpreting what's going on, because whatever they're
seeing on their media is is is you know, very slanted.

Speaker 12 (01:09:22):
Right well, and that's where the media comes into play,
I mean, you know, and then again it also depends
on what media you watch here in the United States.
The beauty of it is you can flip the channel
and you know, see the other perspective and see what
they're saying, and you can either agree to disagree or
move on with your life. Or that's the freedoms that
we've been accounting given.

Speaker 4 (01:09:43):
Yep.

Speaker 12 (01:09:44):
You know, you're you're not taking in jail like you're
in Russia. If you disagree with Putin right, well, we're
gonna taken.

Speaker 7 (01:09:50):
To We're gonna I'm sorry, but we're gonna bestow on
you some freedom. We're gonna let you go. Thank you, no,
thank you, so good to hear your voice once again.

Speaker 3 (01:10:00):
Yeah, keep your text post five am, will you?

Speaker 13 (01:10:04):
Yes?

Speaker 12 (01:10:04):
Sir?

Speaker 7 (01:10:06):
All right, all right, we'll talk next week. Okay, bye.

Speaker 3 (01:10:09):
Oh, I'm just gonna text her two in the morning.

Speaker 7 (01:10:11):
Oh yeah, do that do that on like a Saturday night,
oh yeah, or like.

Speaker 3 (01:10:15):
A Friday week after she's all buzzed up.

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Speaker 13 (01:11:09):
Now?

Speaker 7 (01:11:10):
Okay, we are out of here. We'll talk to you tomorrow,