The Bloomdaddy Experience with Otis & Sam September 17, 2025

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
See number one Touch show in the Ohio Valley. This
is the bloom Daddy Experience. Your host, bloom Daddy. His
goal inform, entertain.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
And tick people off.

Speaker 1 (00:13):
The bloom Daddy Experience on news radio eleven seventy WWVA starts.

Speaker 3 (00:19):
Now, well, welcome in. It's seven oh six on your Wednesday.
We made it to humdu Wasn't that what the the
camel used to do in the old commercial? I forget yes,
all right, I found that do that again. I thought

(00:41):
it was funny, man, I'm Sam, He's otis. Of course
you're listening to the bloom Daddy Experience here on news
radio eleven seventy WWV. I thought I would start it
off with a laugh.

Speaker 4 (00:54):
I'm not wrong, not as funny as I think I am.
All right, fine, fine, fine, fine, A few things.

Speaker 3 (01:04):
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(01:49):
I will make him laugh, Ladies and gentlemen, at one
point in.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
Time when you become funny.

Speaker 3 (01:59):
I'm trying to kind of lighten it up a little bit.
We gotta we gotta heavy.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
We got you know, you know that's fine.

Speaker 3 (02:05):
Got some hard topics to talk about this morning because
we've got Politics Unleased coming up in the eight o'clock hour,
And as I mentioned yesterday, we are adding another voice
to the panel. Tony Edmund, local attorney, is going to
join us along with Elgin to talk politics.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
Good luck, Tonny.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
Don't he's not even here yet, don't I know?

Speaker 2 (02:27):
But Elgin has she she she she brags about how
she's eliminated people from this show. It's like Survivor, and
she eliminates people.

Speaker 3 (02:40):
She snuffed out their flame.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
Now the one, the one, the one that she didn't
snuff him out per se when it was politics left
right center, but I think that they just kind of
dissipated when Blue Daddy went to Cleveland.

Speaker 3 (02:53):
So I will say this, I have known Tony for
for many years now, and he will be a wonderful
addition because he is one of the most diplomatic, calm
people that I know. There's actually been occasions where I
have tried to get him worked up and it doesn't

(03:17):
face him. Doesn't face him. So it will be, like
I said, it'll be an interesting and great addition to
the platform. He is graciously accepted. I kind of when
initially when I I and he's been on the show before,
and when I brought it up to him off the air,
I was sort of asking him without putting him on

(03:37):
the spot, because I kind of worded it as, you know,
do you know somebody that would be interested in filling
that seat and in taking the the liberal side of
things in the conversation. And I'll think about it, and
I'll think about you know, I'll think about some names
possibly to offer, and then you know, he recommended himself
or he stepped up to the plate, and I'm like, yes,

(03:58):
that that was the goal with my initial question. So yeah,
he'll be a good voice to add to the conversation.
And after you know the past, well, it's seven days
today that you know, what happened last week on this
day has affected the entire nation. There are plenty of

(04:19):
topics to hit on and how it's hit us, you know, locally.
We had the interview Monday with the mayor of Wellsburg
in some of the statements he's made on social media.
So this is not this again, it's national, but it
has trickled down here into our own backyard and the
effects of this. So we're going to have much to
talk about with the two of them during Politics Unleashed

(04:41):
in the eight o'clock hour. As I mentioned also coming
up here a little bit here shortly. One of the
things that has really hit home with the events of
last week, and I'm not just talking about the assassination
of Charlie Kirk. Last week in general across this nation
was an incredibly violent week. It really was. It started

(05:03):
off with the the the subway murder, followed by Charlie Kirk,
followed by over the weekend the boss. I forget what
state it was. I don't have that in front of me.
Who was killed killed by an employee. So it was
it was an exceptionally violent week last week. So we're
going to have Joel Murray in the house, who's going

(05:24):
to talk about mental health, some suggestions on if this
is affecting you and you feel overwhelmed by just the
news in general, you know, some suggestions to step away,
how it's affecting us, why it's affecting us the way
it is. So we're going to get into that conversation

(05:44):
also when Joelle is here with us in the studio.
So it's it's we got a lot of things on tap,
a lot of stuff happening. One thing I want to
put out there, and I asked last night on our
Facebook page. I've had multiple people ask me if I
know of or if we know of any upcoming not protests,

(06:07):
any upcoming visuals, any type of coverage of mister Kirk's
funeral happening on Sunday. I'm putting this out to you.
If you know anything going on in your town or
in the area of viewing of the service, listening of
the service, if you know visuals that are happening anywhere

(06:28):
with you in the Ohio Valley, please please send those
our way, so we can put those out there. Sam
at iHeartMedia dot com again, Sam at iHeartMedia dot com,
just so we can share it for people. Just to help,
Just to help. That's all we want to do. That's
all we want to do. Speaking of help, otis kind
of changing the subject here a little bit. Uh, we're

(06:50):
gonna be some help. Tomorrow night. You and I have
a date. Yeah, you get to spend your morning and
your evening with me tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (07:03):
I'm thrilled.

Speaker 3 (07:04):
I can tell, I can tell.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
No, we were excited for the event.

Speaker 3 (07:09):
Wait, do you have the food?

Speaker 2 (07:10):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (07:11):
Oh, we have been asked to co host together.

Speaker 2 (07:15):
But normally if you're co hosting, there's togetherness. So we've
just been asked to co host.

Speaker 3 (07:22):
Can you pick up on the theme of this morning?
By the way, have you.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
Just trying to help you out?

Speaker 3 (07:28):
Yeah, but we have been asked to co host the
Saint Clairsville Annual Chamber Dinner tomorrow evening. It's being held
at Belmont College out in Belmont. Obviously, so you and
I were the act of the evening.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
No, we're not. There's actually an act.

Speaker 3 (07:46):
No, there actually is.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
Yes, Yes, our friend Craig.

Speaker 3 (07:50):
And I am so excited about that. He's he's the
main speaker. Obviously we have interviewed him on the show.
But I will say this, and i'mford. I have never
actually had the opportunity to see a performance of his,
have you. I was supposed to and then I ended up.
It was like two years ago. I think he was
at the casino and I ended up getting really sick.
But I haven't seen anything in person, So I'm excited

(08:12):
about that. You have seen him.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
Yeah, he did a show for the Jody Miller in
the I did series I believe for the Heather Miller
Memorial and it was at the Performing Arts Center a
Wheeling park. It was very good, very entertaining.

Speaker 3 (08:28):
How would you describe it because a lot of people
think magic.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
I would say it's more it's there's some mental things
that you know, he kind of like he picks people
out of the audience randomly and then like he find
he basically said, like, guess is the person's name that
you're with. I mean, there's like it's weird how he

(08:53):
does it. And I'm sure it's years and years of practice.
And you know, there's there's certain talent and everything else
that people have so but like you know, it's been
a couple of years since I saw the show, but
there's some illusion and then that's there's some uh you know,
it's more mental as.

Speaker 3 (09:12):
Well, okay, like like mind chickery mind you know, I
mean reading body, like eliminating signal, process of elimination.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
You know, he takes clues, you know, ask you questions
and he'll take your answer and then he comes up
and then all of a sudden, like the words written
in an envelope, Oh.

Speaker 3 (09:28):
One of those Oh okay, oh that's going to be cool.
That's going to be cool. Yeah. So that's happening tomorrow evening.
So if you want to come see that, that of
course is still available. You can get tickets at the
Saint Clairsville Chamber website. It's going to be a great
time and I can't wait to uh, I can't wait
to host it with Otis. I was there last year.
This year they're getting both of us. You're getting the duo.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
I think last year I had to work, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (09:52):
You did have to work. Yeah, So they're getting the
duo of both of us tomorrow night. So it is
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(10:19):
The Bloomdaddy Experience, samon Otis News Radio eleven seventy WWVA
Local story. Want to jump into and remind everybody, well,
Otis you have the reminder on September twenty second, if
you would throw that out there.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
Buttons are hard. Yeah. The FEMA deadline, it is the
June floods. Obviously in a high county there were many
who have not yet applied for FEMA. The deadline is
coming up on Monday the twenty second. That is the
last day applications can be submitted to FEMA. Applications can
be submitted online, by phone, or in person at the

(10:58):
Disaster Recovery Center get the try Ophe Community Center.

Speaker 3 (11:02):
All right, So that is FEMA. Along with that, the
deadline for a high accounty flood victims to file for
federal assistance is drawing near. Last night, the Wheeling City
Council discussed the upcoming deadline with a representative from the
Small Business Administration on hand. The deadline is Monday, September
twenty second, which we just mentioned. The SBA, in partnership

(11:25):
with FEMA, offers homeowners the chance to apply for a
half up to a half million dollars in physical damages.
Small business owners can apply for up to two million dollars,
so that deadline coincides with the FEMA deadline that otis
just read. So basically, September twenty second is very very

(11:47):
important currently, So stay and stay if you are involved,
take advantage. And here's the thing. I mentioned this before.
That's why it's there. That's why it's there. Folks, you know,
don't don't don't feel prideful, don't feel as if you shouldn't.
That is what these funds are there for. So if
you were affected, please please go take advantage. Take advantage

(12:13):
of that again. September twenty second. So last week, in
light of a lot of the stuff that happened last week,
I threw this out there and a couple of people
jumped on it. So I want to get your opinion.
One of the things that we have seen happen over
the past ten years roughly twelve years. At this point,

(12:37):
there's a divide. There's a political divide in this country.
I think we've lost sight that we are all American citizens.
And in my reaction last week to Charlie Kirk, one
of the things I mentioned was the Pledge of Allegiance

(12:58):
and I threw it out there. Should we open was
saying the pledge every morning? We're all Americans. We need
to get back to that. Got a response from Darcy said,
I heard you mentioned on your show about saying the
pledge every morning. It's a great idea. Maybe you could

(13:20):
have a class of school kids recited along with you
and record it. So I'm gonna put that out there.
Should we do something like that? Is that a form
of reminding everybody? Is it a positive way of opening
the conversations that to remind everybody we are all under
one nation, one flag. Would it hurt? I don't think so.

(13:49):
I think it's an interesting and it's an interesting idea,
an interesting conversation. You know, when we talked to Neil McCoy,
that's one thing I asked him about. For anybody who
falls him on social media, he starts every morning off
at the pledge. It doesn't matter where he is. He
can be on a barn, he can be in a
barn on his ranch, he can be on a tour bus.

(14:11):
He does the pledge every morning. It's a simple thing.
It's a simple thing, but it's a unifying thing. It's
a reminder. We did it every morning in school. Oh,
just do they still do it in schools? Do you know?

Speaker 2 (14:29):
I do not know that. I'm sure there are certain
schools that, do you know. I could remember being in school,
you know, And obviously this was the separation of church
and state where they didn't It was a time there
was like it might've been in home room or something
of that nature. That's back when you had a homeroom.

(14:51):
I don't know if they still even have home rooms anymore,
but there was a time where they set aside like
thirty seconds for a moment, a reflection is what I
think they called it. So you could take that thirty
seconds and if you want, if you were doing homework,
you could do homework. If you wanted to stop and
say a prayer to yourself, you could if you wanted
to say but everything was silent, and it was just

(15:13):
basically like a thirty second maybe a minute of like
personal reflection. I think they called it it was they
gave it some whacked out name. But anyway, I mean,
that's just one of those things, don't I don't know
if they still do the pledge or not.

Speaker 3 (15:28):
I don't think that we had anything like that, like
a pause, a moment. I can't remember doing anything like that.
But if your kids out, you know, let us know.
Do schools still do the pledge every morning? Does it
cut off at a certain grade level? If they don't
do it, should it be brought should it be returned

(15:49):
to the classroom? Do people find you know, and I'm
sure there are some people out there that would say,
you know, this shouldn't be in the classroom. Some people
find it offensive. Some people, you know, don't feel like
their children should be forced to do it.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
Why there's people that complain because of the one line
that's in there, and it's one nation under God. Yeah,
for whatever reason that bothers some people, then just don't.

Speaker 3 (16:15):
Say that line. I don't know. I don't know, But
if you have thoughts one eight hundred and sixty two
for eleven seventy should it be returned? If it isn't
in classrooms? And should we start our show off that way?
Just a little positive? I don't know. I just feel
like at this point in time, with everything that's going on,

(16:39):
I'm trying to think of or have something that is
prideful in our country, no matter what side of the
aisle you are on. And I don't want to sound
like a bleeding heart because I am not just trying
to do something positive, that's all. Seven twenty eight. You

(17:04):
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So stay tuned for that. It is seven twenty eight.
You're listening to the bloom Daddy Experience. Samon Otis News
Radio eleven seventy WWVA. Welcome back, seven thirty six on

(17:31):
this Wednesday. You're listening to the bloom Daddy Experience. Samon
Otis News Radio eleven seventy WWVA. Last week, you know,
we've been talking about this for days on end. Now,
one side of this conversation is, and I've had this
with a lot of folks, is how it's affecting them.
So I wanted to bring in studio with myself Joel Murray,

(17:53):
National Certified counselor, to talk about everything that's going on.
So thank you for coming in this morning. Oh thanks
for having me. It's an important conversation. It is, it is,
and I want to start off with this. And I've
had this conversation with many people, and I've seen it
on social media. I've seen, you know, a lot of
people asking this when it comes to what happened last

(18:15):
week on this day with Charlie Kirk. A lot of
people don't understand why this one particular incident is affecting
them the way it is. They've never met the man,
probably never would meet the man, but it's hit them
in a way that they can't basically, they can't understand

(18:36):
in their own mind. Can you give a little insight
into why that is? Yeah? Sure.

Speaker 5 (18:40):
So the first thing to understand is grief isn't logical,
it's relational, okay, right, And so what I mean by
that is, sometimes a loss feels really big because it
kind of hits something inside of us, right, You see
something of yourself maybe in that person, or it reminds
you of a person that you have lost tragically maybe

(19:02):
or even maybe just by natural causes, you know what
I'm saying. And so it reminds us that we are
vulnerable as human people. And when someone's story is sort
of everywhere, you can't escape it, and it's almost I
don't want to use the word triggering, but it's almost
like you just repeatedly are exposed to it. Right, So

(19:25):
your nervous system from a physiological level, your nervous system
senses danger. This doesn't feel safe, right, Human beings aren't
supposed to die in this way, So this now feels I.

Speaker 3 (19:38):
Don't know what to do with this? Does that make sense?

Speaker 5 (19:41):
And so it's sort of this almost feels like danger
has entered into your own life, you know.

Speaker 3 (19:48):
So scientifically that's what's happening. And I think for a
lot of people, it's the age, and it's the what
if I said last week. For myself, it made me
think of, you know, was this my generation's jfk oh. Yeah.
And I don't want to get political with you, that's
not one I'm here for sure, but the age, the

(20:10):
young children, the what if. On a national stage, I
think a lot of people are thinking about it that way.

Speaker 5 (20:18):
Also, you know that's interesting you said, I hadn't considered
the JFK comparison, but it's very real, very similar in
terms of.

Speaker 3 (20:25):
All of it.

Speaker 5 (20:25):
Right now, I really hadn't considered that, you know, young,
good looking, you know, lots of people really admire this person,
that sort of thing.

Speaker 3 (20:34):
So then we have what's known as collective grief.

Speaker 5 (20:36):
Okay, and we have seen this throughout our lifetime in
other ways. Right, nine to.

Speaker 3 (20:40):
Eleven comes to mind.

Speaker 5 (20:41):
Yeah, this collective grief something that everyone has sort of witnessed,
if you will.

Speaker 3 (20:47):
Right, this was the day before the anniversary, and it
was going to tie that into.

Speaker 5 (20:51):
Day before nine to eleven, so which is a heavy
day for a lot of people as well. Right, And
so it's this collective sort of grief. And humans are
we are designed for connection. We are meant to be
connected to each other. And so when there is something
that is sort of I want to use the word unifying,
but something that everyone is experiencing together, it hits differently,

(21:13):
you know, and it's heavy. And I want to say
this too. The grief is the grief that people are feeling.
The shock is very real. These are very very real
emotions and so we see a lot of fear coming out,
anger coming out, and those are those are emotions that
are typically rooted in something very emotional.

Speaker 3 (21:32):
Well, when you said connecting, and I'm glad you said that,
because that was another thing I wanted to hit on.
You know, we are are we overly connected? For social
media for example, So for my I'll use myself as
an example. Of course, I have to pay attention to
what's going on. But then you take social media, it

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tracks and it regurgitates to you throughout algorithms that particular subject.
So if you're a person who wants to stay, you know,
on top of the news because you want to be educated,
you want to be aware of what's happening in your
country and your neighborhood, you then learn that information. But
then after that it's just refilter to you in different

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ways from with different agendas. How do you make the
distinction of Okay, I've had enough, I've educated myself. Now
I need to take a pause. How do you stop that?
It's such a great question.

Speaker 5 (22:31):
So we talk about this a lot in the work
that I do, especially with groups, is that one of
the things that really helps us psychologically, no matter what
we're experiencing is connection, connection with other people, connection with
our self, connection with a purpose to a greater cause,
that sort of thing. This is why things like community,

(22:51):
church volunteerism are so important, and we're drawn to it
because we're designed to be together. However, one of the
ways that we reset our our nervous system after grief, loss,
stressful situation, even stress at work anxiety, that sort of
thing is by taking time away and so no technology
and no sort of talking to other people for short

(23:14):
periods of time. The pause, you hear, we talk about
the pause a lot is really what's kind of in
order here. So even if we pause for ten minutes,
twelve minutes, fifteen minutes, you need a break where there's
no input nothing, can you know what I mean? Yeah,
we're having too much input at this point. So an
idea would be to limit yourself, you know, allow yourself

(23:35):
certain periods of time to check in so that you
are informed about what's happening in the world. You know,
give yourself, I don't know, ten twenty even thirty minutes,
you know, in the morning, not when you first wake up,
and maybe again at some other point in the day,
and then other than that you know, try if you
can to have some distance.

Speaker 3 (23:53):
Well, in the other side of it is, you know,
there's there's so much information out there. It's so hard
at this point to distinguish between fact AI. You know
that people then again they're overwhelmed and people don't know
what to believe and people are struggling with that too.

Speaker 5 (24:11):
Yeah, and again that's our human basic human desire to
feel like you belong somewhere, to feel like you belong
to something, and it is very difficult. That is one
of the things that people in mental health field are
struggling with right now, is that how to discern you.

Speaker 3 (24:27):
Know, I myself.

Speaker 5 (24:28):
I mean, I've somebody sent me something recently and I
asked the person is this AI or is this real?
My question it myself and I'm like, wait a minute,
I don't even know if what I'm looking at is
And it turned out it was AI the thing that
they sent and it was but not it.

Speaker 3 (24:40):
Was like music.

Speaker 5 (24:40):
It was like a music video, you know, it was
something total whatever, nonsensical, but it's it is very difficult
to do that. So our brains sort of treat the
things that we see on social media as being part
of our like inner circle and it's really not.

Speaker 3 (24:58):
It's like a personal connection and though it.

Speaker 5 (25:00):
Isn't, yeah exactly, and this is the same you know,
not to the same degree. But what you know, Robert
Redford died yesterday, right, and so people are like, oh man,
you know you feel this almost like you don't know
this person. Great, right, but you're like affected to a degree.

Speaker 3 (25:14):
And it's kind of like before we got to social media,
the connection people have with celebrities, using Robert Redford as
an example. Yeah, people have that connection to celebrities. Yeah,
and when one of them is gone, you feel this grief.
But I think social media has taken people like a
Charlie Kirk and put them even on a higher platform
of connection. Yeah, and it's hitting people deeper. Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 5 (25:37):
And because they're sort of in your you know, back
in the day when we all watch TV, you're like
they're in their living room right right, Like and now
this now it's in your car. Yeah, it's in your
you know, on your break, it's at your work, like
you can't.

Speaker 3 (25:49):
Really it's in your pocket. It's in your pocket.

Speaker 5 (25:51):
And so having a little bit of a break in
some distance by the way, taking a break from social
media is a good idea anyway, and regular circumstances, but
particularly now and if the grief starts to get or
the just the ruminating thoughts, the anxiety, the stress of
it all really starts to get a lot step away
from the technology, but also reconnecting with yourself and what

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your purpose in this life is, right, finding something that's
meaningful for you, that's a positive experience, you know, lean
into your friend's circle, lean into something that gives you
a felt sense of purpose and belonging in really positive ways.
And I'm not suggesting, you know, go down volunteer at
soup kitchen, although great if that's what you do, but
you know, just saying, you know, how can I be
of service to myself and others right now?

Speaker 3 (26:39):
I know some people that over the weekend they just
put on the Hallmark channel. Yep. I mean that sounds
so silly, but they just wanted to break and wanted
nice people.

Speaker 6 (26:48):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (26:48):
I just I need a comedy, I need a something right.

Speaker 5 (26:51):
Like you know, and I watched The Office perfect right exactly.
That's exactly the kind of thing you're trying to sort
of interrupt, you know, that loop, but you know it
is heavy and so and also allowing yourself to feel
what you're feeling. One way that we instantly sort of
de escalate our nervous system, if you want to look
at it like that, is by simply naming how you're feeling.

(27:13):
And I don't mean that, you know, we tend to
intellectualize everything. Yeah, literally naming I am sad and let
it out. I am stressed. Right, Naming how you're feeling
has been It's science has been proven with research that
just naming what you're feeling, uh, instantly decreases the activity

(27:33):
in the fight flight center of your brain.

Speaker 3 (27:35):
Wonderful, Well, thank you so much this morning. Thank you
for having me. I really appreciate this conversation.

Speaker 5 (27:39):
I think it's important to have it, and you know,
thanks and hopefully this continues conversations for other people, think
give them some things to think about.

Speaker 3 (27:45):
Yeah. Yeah, because there's no shame in having the conversation
or going and talking to a counselor or a psychologist
or you know what you need to get it out. Yeah,
for sure. Yeah, wonderful again. Joelle Molray, National Certified Counselor.
It is seven forty six. You're listening to the bloom
Daddy Experience Sam and Otis News Radio eleven seventy WWVA.

(28:16):
Welcome back seven sixty to the bloom Daddy Experience. Otis
and Sam News Radio eleven seventy WWVA. Once again, thank
you to counselor Joel Moray for coming in and having
that conversation with us this morning. She is also an author,
and I will share a connection to her on our
Facebook page if you would be interested in reading her

(28:38):
book or also just reaching out to her. Listen. I
understand everybody has their own viewpoints on everything that's happening
right now. You know, we're trying to cover all angles,
but I wanted to hit on this because, like I said,
we've had I've had a lot of conversations with a
lot of people who just are struggling with what happened.
They don't understand why they're struggling, and I thought having

(28:58):
that conversation with Withdrew would be good. So I am
going to share that on our Facebook page so that
if you feel like you need to talk to somebody,
you have somebody to reach out to, or she can
recommend somebody for you to speak to, because I'd rather
see people have the conversation, get things off their chest
and feel better. That's what it's about. It's about feeling better.

(29:19):
So I thought she had really good insights. And that's
the thing that was interesting, how she was connecting otis
the physical you know, the brain and how your brain
reacts and why it reacts the way it does. You know,
you don't think about that kind of stuff, you know
day to day. Why and the whole conversation about social media,
you know, like we've we've talked about the the algorithms.

(29:41):
It tracks what you look at and you're just reserved
over and over again, the same topic just twisted in
a different way and you can't get away from it.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
Yeah, it's just it's it's you know, there are certain
I mean, social media can be good for a lot
of things. I use it a lot in my work,
not this job, my other job. You know, sometimes you
find little things out that you don't realize that they're
out there, and but unfortunately you get all the other

(30:15):
stuff that goes with it, and you know, there's you know,
like you said, there's algorithms and you know, like if
you buy something off of Facebook, like an advertise, like
if they advertise something like so I bought a little
something for a friend, nothing super spectacular, just you know,
kind of just something little, yeah, a little cute do.

Speaker 3 (30:36):
Dad the technical term.

Speaker 2 (30:38):
And I have been bombarded with basically the same thing,
just different companies or different taglines or you know, like
you know, like different how you like where your name
would be, say on Facebook, and it's like in bold,
well like this one would say like I don't know,

(30:58):
like lily, and this one say like heartfelt, and this
one would say that. But they're all the same things.

Speaker 3 (31:04):
It's the same product. It's just a different company name,
and it's probably all the same overall, absolutely, And it
just it just reserves you with it, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (31:12):
And then you get and then you on top of that,
get you know, all the other things to go with
it that are so similar. Yeah, and it's just like,
oh good God, please stop and see.

Speaker 3 (31:26):
I don't trust any of that stuff. I don't buy
anything off of Facebook. I don't buy anything off of TikTok.
If I see something that catches my eye that I
would want to purchase, I then go to Amazon and
look for it there because I trust am.

Speaker 2 (31:39):
I had a couple of little things off Facebook, I mean,
like the way I look at it is some of
these things are, like, you know, they're under twenty dollars
normally maybe under thirty. I don't know something in that nature.
And if somebody beats me out of twenty bucks, then
shame on me. I mean, I've wasted twenty dollars on
dumber stuff in my life. Didn't know. But my comment

(32:03):
is my com My normal comment is I've pissed away
more money than you know, right, So I mean losing
twenty bucks on something like that is not a big
not a big deal. I mean I was driving down
the road one time. I had five one hundred dollars
bills in my pocket. I had on a pair of
cargo shorts and I didn't button the pocket and the
five one hundred dollars bills flew out of the jeep

(32:24):
because I didn't have the doors in the top on,
so it kind of like was blowing my shorts. And
the next thing you know, there wasn't five hundred dollars.

Speaker 3 (32:30):
Oh, they weren't in a wallet or anything. They were
just loose in your pocket.

Speaker 2 (32:33):
Yeah, because I was, I was, I was, I was
going to make a payment on something.

Speaker 3 (32:36):
Oh it didn't make that payment on time, did you.

Speaker 2 (32:39):
Yeah, I still made the payment on time, but I
was out five hundred dollars.

Speaker 3 (32:43):
Oh man, that sucks. Other way to say it.

Speaker 2 (32:48):
I thought you were going to maybe I was out
one hundred dollars. It was one hundred dollars.

Speaker 3 (32:51):
I thought you were going to say you were walking it.

Speaker 2 (32:53):
Was five twenties. I think that flew out of my pocket.

Speaker 3 (32:55):
Oh okay, And there was a hole in that pocketa
I can't remember. And it fell out because there was
a hole in that pocket.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
I know. Okay.

Speaker 3 (33:03):
My husband has lost so much stuff because he doesn't
realize there's a hole in the pocket of his shorts
or his jeans and it falls out, and you know,
six hours later he's like, where's that twenty dollars? And no,
it's somewhere in the parking lot somewhere.

Speaker 6 (33:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (33:18):
That that stings. That stinks. You learned your lesson from that, though,
did you not?

Speaker 7 (33:24):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (33:25):
Yeah, Oh.

Speaker 2 (33:28):
I always put it on the inside pocket now, especially
when the doors are off on the jeep. You don't
have it on the outside where the opening to the
door is. You have it on the inside where the
console is.

Speaker 3 (33:40):
Ah there you go.

Speaker 2 (33:41):
So basically right leg instead of left leg, nice, nice.

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Speaker 3 (35:09):
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Otis News Radio eleven seventy WWVA, get those headphones on.
It is time for politics unleashed. And as I said earlier,
we now have two folks in the house. Of course,
we've got Elgine McCardell and joining us for the first
time this week, Tony Edmund. Good morning, everybody.

Speaker 2 (35:30):
Good morning, Good morning.

Speaker 8 (35:32):
How's be nice to Tony. Did you realize there's been
like fifteen people that run through here on their side
of Okay.

Speaker 2 (35:42):
Don't don't she's trying to intimidate you, don't bite.

Speaker 7 (35:46):
It is what it is.

Speaker 3 (35:49):
I don't know if you heard me earlier, Tony, but
I was. I was boosting you off. I said, I've
known Tony for a while now, and he's a very
diplomatic person. You're very calm, cool and collected. So it
makes a good usually it brings between us. It'll be
a good conversation, it's gonna be it'll be civil. Yes,

(36:09):
it'll be a good pairing. It'll be a good pairing.

Speaker 7 (36:12):
It goals to be productivetive conversation.

Speaker 3 (36:15):
There we go, there we go. All right, we're gonna
get right into it because you know, the last seven
days has been absolutely tough for everybody. We had Joel
Murray and earlier counselor talking about, you know, the mental
part of how it's affecting people. So I want to
start off with this last Wednesday, when you heard the

(36:35):
initial news that Charley Kirk was shot and then very
shortly after you know, he had lost his life. You
know what was your initial gut reaction. I'll go, we're
gonna go with with with Tony first, since we're gonna
put you on the spot right off, we're off the bat,
Welcome to the show.

Speaker 7 (36:52):
Yeah. So when I first heard the news, it was
a little weird of process. I got an a learned
on my phone and I was like, is this right?
That was the initial reaction. And then I started seeing
the news roll in and actually came across one of
the videos un edited and didn't know that that's what
I was coming across.

Speaker 3 (37:11):
Oh you saw the video? Yeah, I have not.

Speaker 2 (37:14):
I have seen it.

Speaker 3 (37:15):
It's not pleasant.

Speaker 7 (37:16):
Now, it's not it was a lot to take. I said,
it's going to take a while to shake. Yeah, And
so confusion was probably the first reaction, and horror because
I seeing that video was yeah. So then just trying
to gather information to one confirm that it was real
because with deep fix you never know now, and then

(37:38):
once learning that it was real, just trying to make
sense of it all.

Speaker 3 (37:42):
Were you familiar with Charlie Kirk. I was, had you
watched a lot of his conversations and debates, and.

Speaker 7 (37:48):
I had seen some of his conversations. I watch as
much as I can Bill Maher's Club Oratedom podcast, and
I think he just reposted their conversation.

Speaker 3 (37:59):
He was just on in July. I believe it was
very recently. He was on Bill Maher's podcast.

Speaker 7 (38:04):
Yeah, so I tried to catch that. So I was
familiar with him, his work, his shows, that kind of thing.
So I didn't know who he was. But after just
trying to process, I'm still trying to make sense yeah, everything.

Speaker 8 (38:19):
Frankly Elgin, your first reaction, well, I was actually with
some clients and my phone kept going off and it
was my I have particular rings for my son and
my daughter, and it was my son and my daughter,
my son, what is going on? When I was done
with them, I went over to my phone and I
looked at it and one of.

Speaker 9 (38:37):
My kids had said, you know, Charlie Kirk was shot.
And I'm like, oh no, and then my.

Speaker 8 (38:42):
Daughter said where, and my son said, it's horrible, don't
look at it, and of course my daughter sent the
videos immediately. It was it was it was sort of
a stun It was surreal. It did almost look like
an AI kind of re generated creative video because it

(39:02):
was so graphic and immediate, and he just looked like
a rag doll.

Speaker 9 (39:09):
But it was, it was. It was surreal. Why why?

Speaker 8 (39:14):
And then the immediate thing was why? And then of
course everybody with their phones. You saw the post of
the individual who said, oh look there's somebody on the roof,
you know, and that was the next post.

Speaker 3 (39:25):
I saw it very reminiscent of Butler.

Speaker 8 (39:27):
Yes, very much so. But it doesn't make sense. I mean,
like you said, young man thirty one years old at
the start of well, you can say it's the start
of his career, although he started at eighteen, you know,
so he had been in it for several years. But
it was it was shocking. I think people are still
trying to process it.

Speaker 9 (39:48):
It's it's bizarre.

Speaker 3 (39:50):
I have, you know, talk to many people about this.
Of course, we've been talking about it for many, you know,
many days now at this point. For me, in my age,
it may I have asked people who have lived through
JFK if this is reminiscent of That's that's how I'm
kind of making the connection because it's the age, it's

(40:14):
the shocking nature of it and the what if and
you know, where would he have gone with his career?
You know, many times he was asked if he was
going to get into politics, would he run for any office?
And he would always sort of, you know, that's not
my purpose. He would dance around, not dance around the question.
But you know that's not my purpose. My purpose is this,

(40:34):
And that's that's how I'm trying.

Speaker 8 (40:37):
To Yeah, And I think it's a combination between JFK
and MLK because his message, his effect on I think
the aftermath is more MLK than it is JFK. I
think the shock is JFK, like, how could this happen
to somebody who was so young, had a lots in

(40:57):
front of them, But they think the the the message,
the I don't know, the shock, the aftermath is MLK
when he was shot, you know what's his message? It
has been resounding the on both sides, quite frankly, the reaction.

Speaker 9 (41:16):
And to the to the assassination.

Speaker 3 (41:20):
Wouldn't you say, Tony, we have seen the in the react,
in the in you know, the aftermath. We have seen
the best and the worst in humanity. In a way,
after this has happened.

Speaker 7 (41:32):
I think we've certainly seen people's true colors on way
or another come out.

Speaker 3 (41:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (41:37):
And I also think we have to be careful about
how people process any kind of death, and especially one
that has been for some that was you know, it
all happened in real time. And not only that, but
you know, I can't really comment on what happened in
the sixties right for the radio audience. For the radio audience,
I'm forty years old. But what I am a student

(41:59):
of his. But what I can say is that I
think this is one of the first times that whether
you liked him or not, someone who had as big
a profile as who was murdered.

Speaker 3 (42:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (42:10):
And it's in the age of social media. I whish
there is no editorial discretion and there's also an algorithm
that's going to, whether you like it or not, flood
your zone all kinds of stuff. And so I think
it's I think it's incumbent on people to try to
take a deep breath, try to take a step back,

(42:33):
show a little grace for those who have reacted the
way in which they've reacted, to say, look, this is
a lot to process. People process death differently. My family
owns a funeral home. My grandfather started it is with
my grandmother and grandfather started in nineteen sixty. I was
born in nineteen eighty five. My grandfather and I from
basically nineteen ninety until twenty twelve when he passed away

(42:55):
at eighty five, were very close, and so I saw
this up close and personal kind of emotion that gets
released when anyone dies. Whether you're you're close to them
or not, whether you love them or not, especially when
they're a public figure, it's all different. And so we've
got it. We've got to be careful to make sure
that we allow people to process the way they need
to process and not throw more gasoline on the fire.

(43:16):
Take a deep breath about what we're seeing and analyze
it properly.

Speaker 9 (43:19):
On both sides.

Speaker 7 (43:20):
Yeah, no matter who it is, Yeah, no matter who
it is. That's and that's what I'm getting it.

Speaker 8 (43:24):
Yeah, yeah, I mean there's been extreme reaction on both sides.

Speaker 9 (43:28):
And you know, I guess the the the.

Speaker 8 (43:31):
Biggest thing is that you said take it, take a
step back. There's a lot of people who aren't taking
a step back, who are just in attack mode, attack mode, gaslighting,
whatever you want to call it. And it doesn't just
even when you're speaking, you should take five seconds to
pause before you open your mouth, because there have been

(43:52):
a lot of people who have opened their mouth and
unfortunately have suffered some collateral consequences because of it.

Speaker 3 (43:58):
And we're going to get into that because with both
of you being attorneys, it's a perfect time to bring
up those that have lost their job, the argument of
free speech, you know, all of that. So we're going
to get into that in a couple other things. It's
eight fifteen. You're listening to Politics Unleashed here on news
radio eleven seventy WWVA eight twenty one. Welcome back to

(44:25):
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four eleven seventy. Okay, So back to it. We've got
of course Algie mccartal here, and we also have Tony
Edmond debating the different topics right now with politics on leash.
So right now, at this point, the number that I
have seen, it's over thirty people across the country have

(45:32):
been fired so far lost their employment due to basically
insensitive comments on social media. I didn't print them all
off because frankly, I don't want to read them. So
now there are folks that are going back and saying,
you know, so this is we don't have our freedom
of speech to say these things, and they're talking about

(45:52):
filing lawsuits for wrong termination. I want to get your
thoughts on that, because to me, my first thought is,
you know where all of this argument for free speech
in twenty twenty five and the woke movement and all
of that. So I'm going to throw this one to
you first.

Speaker 8 (46:06):
Ailton Well, I think that needs to be taken in
the context of the employment contract, because there are a
lot of employers that require you to sign a contract
to stay off social media, to not do whatever. So
I don't know that the Charlie Kirk incident itself and

(46:27):
they're posting regarding that is the precipitous for the firing.
It could be in violation of their employee contract, their
employee handbook, whatever the case may be.

Speaker 3 (46:38):
So like a morally clause or code of conduct.

Speaker 8 (46:41):
Right so in schools and whatever, the teachers that kind
of thing. So you know that I think is a
separate issue. And while it might have been the trigger
for the firing, you'd also have to take it on
a case by case basis to look at exactly what
the contract said.

Speaker 9 (47:00):
You know, because you can't just and the first Amendment
is complicated.

Speaker 2 (47:07):
To say the least.

Speaker 8 (47:09):
The Constitution is the but the most familiar basically saying
is that you can't yell fire in a crowded theater.
So to the extent that an.

Speaker 9 (47:20):
Employer employee does something or says something that can incite.

Speaker 8 (47:28):
Violence and or a reaction from customers, then no, they're
they're they're not going.

Speaker 9 (47:34):
To it's the bud light issue.

Speaker 8 (47:35):
It's it's you know, that kind of thing that if
you if you take a particular stance and you lose
customers over it, and you have a social media policy
regarding it, then it's going to be affected.

Speaker 9 (47:45):
So it's it's not as easy.

Speaker 3 (47:48):
As it's not cut and dry.

Speaker 9 (47:50):
It's not cut and dry.

Speaker 7 (47:52):
Yeah, it's certainly not cut and dry. And I think
I do think that if we take the whatever their
contracts are saying, which we can't possibly know out of well,
just set that aside from the moment. I do think
it would be a good idea for employers that they
find that someone has said something like that, pull them
in a room and say, hey, what's going on, We
saw what you said, Yeah, and give them a chance

(48:14):
to speak on what they said. Maybe they feel bad
about it, maybe they don't. Maybe there's a great reason
why they don't. Maybe there's a terrible reason why they don't.
You know, but I think it's important to make sure
that people are hurt and just like Elgin pointed out,
case by case basis, not only from the legal standpoint,
but from a practical standpoint, give people a chance to
actually comment on what they've said and don't overreact. I

(48:37):
think that was the thing in the past when people
talk about the quote unquote woke mob. I just think
it's a little lazy branding for that. I think the
proper way to handle those situations too, is say, pull
that person into a room, talk to them, ask them
what's going on. And sometimes there are forms of punishment
that can come below firing someone, you know, but it

(48:57):
has to be in a case by case basis, and
we've all take a step back and see what's going
on in their lives. Maybe this was just the Charlotte
broke the camel's back because they've got a whole lot
of other issues. Maybe they don't, but you don't know
that till you talk to them.

Speaker 5 (49:08):
Well.

Speaker 3 (49:08):
And the scary part is when when researching this, the
majority of people that have have lost their jobs their
educators and and you know, when you take a step
back and you think, okay, wait a second, these are
the people educating the future of this country that are
reacting this way on social media. Again, despite what topic

(49:28):
we're referencing, whether we're talking about Charlie Kirk or anything else,
that educators are putting this out there on social media.
And and you know, there's there's speculation about something helping
around here locally, there is the mayor of Wellsburg and
and you know the things that he's put out here locally.
So this is not just affecting on a national platform.

(49:50):
This is happening here locally. And and you know, snap reactions,
knee jerk reactions, that's one of the issues that we
have in this country.

Speaker 8 (49:58):
Right And I think I did see a post that commented,
it's ironic that someone is going to complain about being
fired for their free speech when the consequence of their
free speech was being fired. The consequence of the free
speech of Charlie Kirk was being murdered.

Speaker 9 (50:18):
So if you put things in that perspective.

Speaker 8 (50:21):
But I agree that you everything. I agree that everything
should be on a case by case basis, and people
should talk and people should figure out what's going on,
because you're right, it could be something that you don't
know what that person's going through, and it could have
been accumulated of facts and circumstances. Maybe they lost the
loved one, maybe who knows, they were having a bad
day and.

Speaker 9 (50:41):
Then all of a sudden that comes out and boof.

Speaker 8 (50:44):
But again, I think you got to pause, and you
got to think before you speak, and I think that
would probably be the wise thing for anybody to do.

Speaker 7 (50:51):
Yeah, I think that's true. And I think it's also
important to note that, you know, in this day and age,
things are different when it comes to you know, teachers
I had all through growing up. Social media didn't exist
until I was in my latter years in college, and
even then it was a closed environment, So I didn't
know when any of the teachers I had thought about anything. Yeah, frankly,

(51:12):
and perhaps given the opportunity to express this publicly, they
might have. But the bottom line is you can they
can separate what they think about current events with what
they're teaching students. But again, you have to you have
to have that balance. You can say, yeah, you can
have your own opinion, but if you're going to keep
this jomb you have to conduct yourself in a certain way.
Make sure that that stays in a closed universe, or

(51:32):
make sure that you're doing that in a productive manner.
Find other outlets, because it's important to note that what
if you're a person who's in leadership, what you say,
everything you say and do has a ripple effect.

Speaker 3 (51:45):
Hold that thought because I do want to get into
that coming up next, because jd Vance took the seat
for Charlie Kirk to Monday Monday Tuesday, I want to
get into some of his comments because certain people in
certain positions should they be held to a higher standard
with certain things. And we're going to talk about that
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heard Monday show, spoke to local mayor of Wellsburg, Mayor
Dudley about comments that he made on social media. And
one of the things I brought up to him was

(52:58):
the fact that when you what a certain position, whether
it's in government, whether you're an educator, whether you sit here,
you know, should we not be held to a higher
standard when it comes to certain things. But before we
get to that, we have a call.

Speaker 2 (53:11):
Right before we get into that topic, we have Rich
from Hopdale who has a comment on the free speech
and employers and so on and so forth. Good morning, Rich,
good morning, good morning.

Speaker 10 (53:23):
I've been listening to the show for quite some time,
and I thank you because I like hearing all the sides.
But something I've been thinking about is this doesn't have
anything to do with freedom of speech in my opinion.
Now It's just my opinion. But whenever I see freedom
of speech, just persecution from the federal government. That's the

(53:44):
way I look at it.

Speaker 7 (53:46):
Now.

Speaker 10 (53:46):
If somebody wants to go out and have millions of
people see, or maybe just thousands or hundreds or whatever,
if they're just expecting a select few to see what
they're posting or what they're saying, whenever they're screaming, hey, hey,
this is great, this is fantastic, They're not being persecuted
by our government. These are business owners, these are school districts.

(54:12):
These are not the government. It might be a okay
if it's a local government, that's fine, but they're I
get it to be so twisted, to be to be
so twisted and celebrate that, don't expect there to not

(54:32):
be any consequences. If they were working for me as
a boss. You know, if I was their boss, I'm
going to be concerned with. Okay, my company's going to
have to close its doors because I obviously have people
with no moral compass working for me, and no one
is going to want to come to, you know, shop

(54:52):
with what I'm selling or have me in their home
doing my construction work. They're not going to want to
have anything to do with that. My business is going
to close up anything.

Speaker 8 (55:03):
And I think Tony you can correct me if I'm
wrong here, but he's absolutely right. It's only when the
government restricts your First Amendment, right, it's not when you
know what I mean, others, it's not an actionable claim
if it's the government, that it's not the government that's
acting and suppressing your free speech.

Speaker 7 (55:21):
Usually the case you mentioned the contracts earlier. But if
it's not that, then you're really The First Amendment protects
against state action. In some cases you can apply to
schools at their public schools that can be considered. You
know it's state action, it's government funded, but you know,
and it's also comes down to the letter of the
law versus the spirit of the law. And then you
have the spirit of the First Amendment of what that
means and trying to foster an environment where people feel

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free to speak their mind. But it doesn't mean that
you're not going to have a reaction.

Speaker 8 (55:49):
And that's true, and it doesn't mean that there are limits,
as Rich said, you know, within the confines of your work.

Speaker 3 (55:55):
Rich, thank you for your call this morning, and thank
you for listening. Great points there. And that's the other
thing going back to you know, Charlie Kirk, look at
what he did. You want to talk about freedom of speech.
He welcomed it. He welcomed it. He he would you know,
he didn't use it. He debated you on topics with
his intelligent and freedom of speech. That's what he did.

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And he started it at eighteen years old. And the
one thing I always, you know, watching him, he would
always sit down the microphone when the other person was talking,
and you know, a lot of the times it was
he wanted he was listening. And I think that's what
is lost in a lot of this conversation is you know,

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whether you agreed with him politically, religiously any of those topics,
or you disagreed. He was willing to listen, where today
the majority of us don't listen to one another.

Speaker 9 (56:51):
Well, I think that was evident. And the hearing there
were hearings yesterday between Booker and Cash Betel.

Speaker 3 (56:58):
Oh, Yeah, you.

Speaker 9 (56:59):
Couldn't understand what any either of them was saying because
they were both screaming at the.

Speaker 2 (57:04):
Top of their lines to one another.

Speaker 3 (57:06):
It's like, what do you say? It's like a judge, Judy.

Speaker 9 (57:08):
It was it was bad.

Speaker 8 (57:09):
It was an embarrassment, bad, and it's just it's not appropriate.

Speaker 3 (57:14):
You're right.

Speaker 9 (57:15):
Listen, then talk, listen, pause, then talk.

Speaker 3 (57:18):
It helps well and back to the topic we were
going to hit on it, which was, you know, the
responsive responsibility of people who have certain positions to be
held to a hired standard. So Vice President jd. Vance,
he took the seat on the podcast for Charlie Kirk,
and I want to read some of his comments that
he made because I will say this, I don't think

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it was the right direction personally. I don't think it
was the right direction the way he went with things.
So he said, there is no unity with people who
scream at their children over their parents' politics. There is
no unity with someone who lies about what Charlie Kirk
said in order to excuse his murder. There is no
unity with someone who harasses an innocent family day after

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the father of that family lost to dear friend. I
agree with that. I don't think it was the right time,
in the right platform. Right now. We need to remember
we're all Americans. There's not half the country that's Democrats,
there's not half the country that's Republicans. We're all under
one flag, and I think being the vice president to

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sit in that particular chair this week after everything that
happened last week, a lot of the words he used
are not healing.

Speaker 7 (58:29):
Yeah, And I don't think it's an appropriate venue for
the sitting vice president to sit in a podcast. I
thought that was weird. And I don't care if he
was talking about what's the bens lunch meet? You know,
I think him sitting in that position is odd.

Speaker 3 (58:43):
He's not an entertainer, no, but he was one of
his best friends. That's why we're that close.

Speaker 8 (58:48):
They were that close. That's that's where you got it.
You have to He was the one who was the pallbearer. Yes,
Usha was with Erica and so you know, And this
is where I think your question comes. He is also
the vice president, and maybe a qualification of I'm not
here as the vice president United States, I'm here as

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Charlie Kirk's friend. I don't know, because I mean, you
don't stop becoming his you don't stop being his longtime
friend just because you become vice president. But in the
platform of the podcast where he's saying those things, I
mean he was. I think he was advocating on behalf
of a friend not advocating on as the.

Speaker 3 (59:28):
Vice president, I did not realize they were that they
were that they that long.

Speaker 7 (59:32):
Yeah, and even where you are, what you say, how
you say it, in the position you hold it, it
all matters. Absolutely, it matters a lot. And if he
goes on and said, look, I need to talk about
my friend for a second, and then he says whatever
he says, okay, and he should feel like he can
do that, but he has to be conscious of what
his job is and then also what the reaction of

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people are going to be, for better or worse. Be
able to handle that, you know, no matter what it
is you're talking about. But that make me uncomfortable.

Speaker 9 (01:00:00):
But well, you know, as it's the former chair of
the state party, there.

Speaker 8 (01:00:06):
Are lots of there are lots of times that I
would have liked to have spoken on a personal viewpoint
but could did not, right, you know, And as as
state chair, when you have candidates, you know in a
contested case, you cannot advocate for one or the other
because you're supposed to be neutral.

Speaker 9 (01:00:26):
So regardless of whether your good friends or not, you
I think you're right.

Speaker 8 (01:00:31):
I think if there was a qualification to say I
want to forget that I'm vice president for now and
I want to speak about my friend, and nothing I say.

Speaker 9 (01:00:39):
Usually there's a disqualifying you know.

Speaker 8 (01:00:41):
I think there's one even on the show that says
none of the viewpoints that are expressed or those.

Speaker 9 (01:00:46):
Of the radio station that exactly, you know.

Speaker 8 (01:00:48):
So that that and maybe that would have been a
good disqualify or qualifier before the But yes, they were
very very good friends.

Speaker 3 (01:00:55):
Okay, I didn't realize they were that close. Yeah, that close.
And and here's the other thing. You know, there's a
lot of labels being thrown around and and this has
been going on for a while, and I think in
this entire conversation there's many layers that hold responsibility to
where we have gotten in this country. And as you

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have said, it's both sides. You know, you can't continue
to call people Nazis, hitler, misogynists, racist, all of these
labels and think that it is not affecting people's mental stability.

Speaker 9 (01:01:32):
Affected what's his name, Robinson?

Speaker 3 (01:01:35):
I don't know what is Tyler?

Speaker 7 (01:01:36):
Tyler Robinson?

Speaker 9 (01:01:37):
Yeah, Yeah, clearly affected him.

Speaker 3 (01:01:39):
Yeah, we're going to get into that. It's eight forty five,
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(01:02:01):
eight forty five The Bloomdaddy Experience. Sam and otis Elgin
and Tony here on news Radio eleven seventy WWVA. Welcome back,
eight fifty The bloom Daddy Experience. Sam and otis News

(01:02:22):
Radio eleven seventy WWVA. Haven't heard this voice in a while,
but it's so good to hear it again. Kevin Cook
straw Ab Automotive, Good morning, Kevin.

Speaker 6 (01:02:32):
Morning, guys. How y'all doing.

Speaker 3 (01:02:33):
We missed you.

Speaker 6 (01:02:35):
Hi, Look, I would like to say I missed y'all.

Speaker 2 (01:02:39):
Hey, Elgin has a question for you before we get going.

Speaker 8 (01:02:42):
All right, I want a nice little, uh run around convertible.

Speaker 9 (01:02:47):
Oh cheap, very cheap, very very cheap, very cheap.

Speaker 6 (01:02:53):
Well, of course no one looks. You know, I've never
heard anyone come into the dealership. I need the most,
and I want to pay you know, MSR pay for
it and give you extra money just in case that's
the person. I'm there.

Speaker 2 (01:03:08):
I want to make sure I cover your commission.

Speaker 6 (01:03:10):
I got it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:11):
I got that's all.

Speaker 9 (01:03:12):
I want to pay your commission.

Speaker 2 (01:03:14):
How about that?

Speaker 6 (01:03:15):
I hear you.

Speaker 2 (01:03:15):
So there you go. You have a job. You need
to find elgent a little convertible I got.

Speaker 6 (01:03:20):
All right, we're on it. We're on it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:21):
So now we're going to turn her mic up before
she interrupts us. All right, so what's going on as
job automative.

Speaker 6 (01:03:29):
I made glad to be back. Had a great time
in the Colorado. Uh you know, before you you know,
we saw the red class trade at Red Rocks, so
that was awesome. But while I was away, man, the
guys just kept, you know, pounding away at everything, you know,
just working real hard to make sure that everyone is,
you know, getting the vehicle they want, and most importantly,
that they're doing so in the most transparent way and

(01:03:51):
the easiest way possible when buying an automobile. You know,
I don't think we give enough credit to, uh, how
easy it is to do business with the strike organization,
because you can literally you can do all of it
right there, sitting at home, right now on your phone.

Speaker 7 (01:04:07):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (01:04:07):
You can log on to the website there at you know,
drivestrive dot com. You can choose in one of seven dealerships.
You can choose from over almost twelve hundred vehicles right now,
Each and every one of them is clearly sell priced online.
You can work up your own payments if you want to,
whether it's a lease payment or a retail. We can

(01:04:28):
get your trade to praise, we can get your credit approved,
we can set up delivery for you right there to
your home, and just literally take care of everything one percent.

Speaker 2 (01:04:40):
It takes all the fun out of it, though it's
more fun going and checking them all out.

Speaker 6 (01:04:46):
Everyone has, you know, a different process, okay. And what
we've done is we've made it easy for everybody, whether
you're shopping at home online or whether you do want
to come up to the I'm more like you. You know,
I want to I want to want to see the vehicle,
you know, I want to get the experience. You know,
I want to do the test drive, you know, I
want to check out all the options. Do but you know,

(01:05:08):
but most people start their buying process online. They do
all the research, they kind of narrow it down and
you do too, and you know you do.

Speaker 2 (01:05:17):
No, I just tell you what I want.

Speaker 6 (01:05:19):
I know, but after you've gone online.

Speaker 2 (01:05:22):
Normally you know what I'm buying. I want to Jeep.
I mean, I don't look at what you have. I
tell you what I want and you go find it.

Speaker 6 (01:05:28):
I know we do every time. We try to make
it easy for you, which everyone knows that that's not easy.

Speaker 3 (01:05:36):
Yep, you got that right, because Otis makes it so
easy for everybody else, isn't that right, Kevin?

Speaker 6 (01:05:41):
Yeah, sure, we'll go with that, just because he's the customer.
The customer is almost right most of the time.

Speaker 2 (01:05:49):
I'll take that. I'll take that all right, we'll talk tomorrow.
Sounds good you too.

Speaker 3 (01:05:59):
I think then needs a purple convertible.

Speaker 2 (01:06:02):
Wow, you see your face? Yeah, I don't blame her.

Speaker 7 (01:06:08):
I think that's in purple.

Speaker 2 (01:06:10):
No.

Speaker 3 (01:06:11):
No, So we don't have much time left to really
get into another hard topic politically or anything like that.
So I'm just gonna I'm just going to call you out, Tony.
What did you think your first.

Speaker 7 (01:06:20):
Time talking about this segment?

Speaker 6 (01:06:25):
Right?

Speaker 7 (01:06:25):
Yes, I mean I think overall it's going fine. You know,
the reason I'm here is because I think we need
more discussion. I think we need more productive discussion. That's missing.
And like I pointed out earlier, you know, in the
in the days of the newspaper, everybody could write a

(01:06:46):
letter to the editor, but the editor didn't have to
publish all of them. Well, now we're in an age
where all the letters are published and where attention is currency.
And when attention is currency, then they design the algorithms
to drive more that attention to you, which to monetize,
and that doesn't take anybody's perspective, their mental health, their
everyday life into account. And we really need to do

(01:07:09):
the best that we can to make sure that discussion
where there's a back and forth is what's more than
norm and not just need yourk reactions. That's why I'm here,
and I hope to continue to come here, and I
want to have more productive conversations.

Speaker 3 (01:07:22):
I agree that was very well said.

Speaker 2 (01:07:25):
Yes, you must get elgent to agree with you. Wow,
Red Letter Day, this is going to be a national
holiday September seventeenth.

Speaker 7 (01:07:37):
I fear I've set the bar too high.

Speaker 3 (01:07:44):
She got more testosterone in the house now too.

Speaker 2 (01:07:46):
That has so you know, I kind of just let
you guys go. I know so, but you know, if
Tony needs a little backing dog, getting all appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (01:07:55):
Didn't tell you who's your football team.

Speaker 7 (01:07:58):
College college. I went to New York Sea of Pittsburgh.

Speaker 9 (01:08:02):
Sorry, I went to law school.

Speaker 7 (01:08:04):
Nice.

Speaker 2 (01:08:06):
We all can't be perfect.

Speaker 7 (01:08:09):
Hey, you get bragging rights the next four years and
I won't.

Speaker 8 (01:08:16):
Yeah, that's like a win win situation because of WU wins.

Speaker 9 (01:08:20):
Then I'm a West Virginia. It wins, and I went
to pitt But I just kind of.

Speaker 3 (01:08:26):
Stay neutral, so you kind of just walk the I tell.

Speaker 9 (01:08:28):
You what, it was an exciting game, though you have to.

Speaker 7 (01:08:30):
Give it that excited. It was very.

Speaker 3 (01:08:35):
Heartbreaking would be.

Speaker 7 (01:08:36):
The other It was heartbreaking. It was a good game.
That's why I think that Revelien needs to continue as
much as it can.

Speaker 2 (01:08:41):
Well, it can't be as heartbreaking as it was last year.
When you're up ten with three minutes to go and
you lose.

Speaker 7 (01:08:46):
That's what happened this way the other way around.

Speaker 3 (01:08:51):
Oh so, first of all, Tony, welcome, thank you for
for coming on board to join joining this family.

Speaker 7 (01:08:57):
Thanks for having me.

Speaker 3 (01:08:58):
It was functional with very With that being said, if
you guys have questions, any topics you want us to
hit on. All you have to do is email Sam
at iHeartMedia dot com. We'll hold on to him for
next week. We'd love to hear from you. Of course
you can always call us one hundred sixty two fort eleven,
not now, but anytime one hundred sixty two fort eleven seventy.
You have a point for Tony, have a point for Elgin.

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You want to get in. We want to hear from you. Now.
We got to move on. We've got free lunch to
give away, all right, otis, let's we have one through eighteen.

Speaker 2 (01:09:29):
Okay, one through.

Speaker 3 (01:09:30):
Eighteen, number twelve, number twelve, that is okay. We have Stephanie,
Stephanie from Devorik so we are going to fill your
bellies over in bel Air. Stephanie. I will be getting
a hold of you after the show to set up
everything that goes on, and you will be ginting lunch
from our friends at River City on Friday. All right,

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that does it for us? Otis we done?

Speaker 2 (01:09:55):
No? You get a minute to go?

Speaker 3 (01:09:56):
We get a minute?

Speaker 2 (01:09:57):
Yeah, well okay, that's what I when not go like
this that.

Speaker 3 (01:10:01):
Means, well, well that's what you were doing.

Speaker 2 (01:10:03):
I wasn't waving to you.

Speaker 3 (01:10:06):
I think I think you were.

Speaker 2 (01:10:07):
I think you were one finger.

Speaker 3 (01:10:09):
Yeah, okay, Well for the lawyers talking about this one.

Speaker 2 (01:10:13):
I knew that was coming.

Speaker 8 (01:10:15):
I didn't even have to look up.

Speaker 3 (01:10:16):
That was too easy.

Speaker 7 (01:10:17):
That was radio audience can use their imagination.

Speaker 3 (01:10:22):
Everybody, have a great Wednesday. On that note, we'll be
back tomorrow