The Bloomdaddy Experience with Otis & Sam October 8, 2025

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
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bloom Daddy Experience.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
It's seven oh six on news Radio eleven seventy. Property
tax reform in Ohio. When it comes to your property taxes,
obviously you want relief. House Bill one eighty six, according
to some, would cut one point seven billion from schools
over the next three years. Rob Wallgate, American Policy Roundtable,
joining me right now.

Speaker 3 (00:42):
Rob.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
Democrats are saying that the states should shoulder more of
the cost. Republicans are saying that schools unfairly benefit from
automatic tax hikes and say the real fix is to
restructure local collections and also consolidation.

Speaker 4 (00:56):
How do you see this?

Speaker 5 (00:59):
No matter what you look at, in this country, we
have a spending problem.

Speaker 3 (01:04):
We have a spending problem. We don't have an income problem.
We have a spending problem. And that's the part that
no one wants to tackle. When it comes to any
of this, everyone says, we need more money, we need
more money. We need more money.

Speaker 5 (01:14):
The cost of education has exceeded the cost of healthcare,
whatever you want to look at over the last thirty
to fifty years, and people are growing sick and tired
of it. We're weary of it, and helps built one
eighty six is one thing that you're trying to do
to limit property taxes from going up to the point
where people can't afford to stay in their homes. But

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that doesn't fix the problem if we're still going to
continue to spend.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
In Ohio, I saw this stat and I thought it
was staggering, and I think it puts everything in perspective.
Ohio has six hundred eleven school districts are right around
that number. Florida has double the population of Ohio, only
sixty seven sixty seven. I mean, well, we both of
us come from the same area, and we know back

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there you've got school district upon school district upon school
district that's had diminishing populations.

Speaker 4 (02:07):
Yet three or four of them that are all.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
Within a three mile radius basically of each other, are
paying superintendents over one hundred and twenty thousand dollars a year.

Speaker 4 (02:16):
How much sense does that make?

Speaker 3 (02:18):
Well, yeah, we're not picking on anyone. We're just staying
the facts. I mean, look where I grew up.

Speaker 5 (02:23):
I grew up in Columbia County, Columbia in a county,
and I believe it's a county of roughly one hundred
thousand people, and I think they have ten or eleven
public school districts down there.

Speaker 3 (02:33):
And you look at you.

Speaker 5 (02:34):
Know, compared to Madina County, which has what twice the
population are close to it and has less school districts.
How does that make sense? Make it make sense? And
no one can hog school? On eighty six it talks
about the millage, and they're being a floor because what

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ends up happening is when houses go up in are
re assessed for their value, then mills are added or
the cost is added a dollar for every thousand dollars
of value.

Speaker 3 (03:09):
And there used to be a ceiling of twenty. But
you can get around to that in certain specific ways.

Speaker 5 (03:13):
So what one eighty six is trying to do is
to limit that the ability to.

Speaker 3 (03:17):
Kind of have these tax increases.

Speaker 5 (03:20):
When no one's voted on them, just because your house
has went up so much in value, and we have
people Now, let's face it, there's plenty of folks now
that are living in neighborhoods that they can't afford to
buy into.

Speaker 3 (03:33):
And that's not to knock those people.

Speaker 6 (03:35):
They just timed it right and we're fortunate to buy
at a time they were able to get a low
interest rate, and now we know housing prices have exploded,
So you don't want to price those people out with
just their tax bill. But the other reason that this
is happening is because there's people out there that are
collecting signatures for a constitutional amendment to eliminate all property

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taxes in the state of Ohio, and that possibly could
be on the out in the fall of twenty twenty six.
So that's the other thing that people are keeping an
eye on because that could be a sixteen to twenty
billion dollar hole in budgets all across the state and
local communities.

Speaker 4 (04:12):
So what's the middle ground in all this?

Speaker 2 (04:14):
And once again I'm talking to Rob Wallgate American Policy Roundtable.

Speaker 5 (04:18):
I think part of the middle ground is we have
to look at how we're spending money.

Speaker 3 (04:22):
Why are we spending money in the way that we are.
You just highlighted the fact of when it comes to education,
everyone listen.

Speaker 5 (04:31):
I don't know a person across the state that doesn't
say I want to see all school districts thrive. Everyone
wants that right, public, private folks. Everyone wants to see
schools thrive. You're better off when your community has strong education.
The question they ask is have we always solved that

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problem by throwing more money at it?

Speaker 3 (04:55):
Because if you.

Speaker 5 (04:55):
Look across Ohio, the districts that spend the most amount
of money her pupil are the lowest performing.

Speaker 3 (05:02):
So that's where the issue is.

Speaker 5 (05:04):
It's a spending issue, it's an education issue that we
have to get to the bottom of them. We have
to fix well, and it's not going to be done
in one piece of legislation.

Speaker 2 (05:12):
We also know there is a major bloat issue here too,
and I'm talking about bloating in school districts across Ohio.
I mean, there's a lot of jobs that are not needed.
There's you know, school districts need to slim themselves down
in so many different ways. The bloat I think in

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public education is a major, major problem. But as long
as you've got that teacher's union as strong as it is,
that's an issue. And you've got an issue with too
many administrators. There's too many chiefs out there running around.

Speaker 7 (05:49):
Yeah, it's never made sense to me, and I'm sure
I'm not going to make people happy with this comment,
but it's never made sense to me how you can
have someone teaching.

Speaker 3 (06:00):
For twenty five years down the hall. Maybe they're in.

Speaker 5 (06:03):
A something where that.

Speaker 3 (06:08):
Could be replaced easily.

Speaker 5 (06:09):
I'm not saying we should replace twenty five years educated, but.

Speaker 3 (06:12):
If you have someone that's coming in it's new, that's.

Speaker 5 (06:15):
In physics or math or science for something that's hard
to do in education, you can't pay them a fair
wage until they've been there fifteen years. That makes no
sense to me. That makes no sense. It's not a
supplying demand market. Now, some people are throwing their hands
in there and say, well, all the old teachers, you
just get rid of them.

Speaker 3 (06:33):
No, I'm not saying that. We all know.

Speaker 5 (06:35):
We all went through school. We knew who the best
teachers were. The administrators knew who the best teachers were,
the parents knew who the best teachers were.

Speaker 3 (06:43):
The students knew who the best teachers were.

Speaker 5 (06:45):
But everyone always says, well, we can't evaluate, we can't
find a formula.

Speaker 3 (06:48):
To tell you who the best teachers are. Everyone knows
who the best teachers are.

Speaker 5 (06:51):
Everyone there knows, whether they've been there three years or
thirty years, they know who the best teachers are.

Speaker 3 (06:58):
We have to be.

Speaker 5 (06:58):
Willing to come around talk about that and admit that
and make it. And I'm not even saying make it
merit based based upon students scores. I'm saying, let's have
the conversation and what would that look like?

Speaker 3 (07:11):
The other thing?

Speaker 5 (07:12):
We hear this many times and listen, I'll be the
first to admit you could offer me a raise of
a lot more than I make five times whatever you
want to say.

Speaker 3 (07:22):
I couldn't handle education every day. I couldn't go into
class room and teach kids. I'm not equipped for it.
Teachers are a gift. We're thankful for those.

Speaker 5 (07:31):
But the ones that want to play politics with it,
the Randy Winingartens the of the country, the ones that
want to make everything political, we need to do away
with that. It's about young people. It's not about dollars.
It's about young people.

Speaker 4 (07:43):
Well, and I can tell you this. Property owners are
fed up.

Speaker 3 (07:47):
You know.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
I'm looking to get the text board here, this one
from the three three zero. I got to notice my
value went up sixty thousand ridiculous. I have thirteen school
evies all my taxes. Now one goes back to nineteen
seventy six. Insane. What happened to the lottery paying for schools?

Speaker 3 (08:04):
Well, let me hit on that real quick, if I may.

Speaker 5 (08:06):
Let's talk about the lottery, which is the biggest Ponzi
scheme in the world. But let's take a look at
the lottery. Here's what I would like lawmakers and columbus
to do. I would be fine if we outlawed the lottery.
Why because let's take a look at what zip codes
spend the most money on the state lottery and then
run those incomes per capita, and we will find that
alls we're doing is pulling out of the poorest communities

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in this state under the guise of subsidizing education. It's
not because most Ohioans are subsidizing the people that are
playing the lottery each and every day. It's an absolute joke.
The other thing about one to eighty six, though, is
they're talking about giving you a credit for twenty twenty
three in twenty twenty four. I think the Ohio Constitution
will have something to say about that, because Article two,

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section twenty eight says the general Assembly shall have no
power to pass retroactive laws, so that money has already
been allocated.

Speaker 3 (08:59):
That much he's already been in the budget.

Speaker 5 (09:01):
I don't see this bill holding muster to say, hey,
we'll give you a credit for what's been allocated in
previous General Assemblies.

Speaker 3 (09:09):
I don't think it's going to work late.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
Yeah, there's so many issues with public education, but at
some point in time, Rob, you got to encapsulate them all.
You've got to figure out how to fix it. I
think consolidation. I think more career centers. I think separating
kids that want to go on an education from the
ones that don't.

Speaker 4 (09:27):
Just teach them a trade.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
And let's start downsizing big time across the state.

Speaker 3 (09:34):
We've made a mistake. We've made a mistake.

Speaker 5 (09:37):
We've lied to a generation of kids and told them
the only way to find success is to go to
a four year college or university.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
We lie to those kids, We lied to them.

Speaker 5 (09:48):
We have people coming out and I know we're talking
about higher ED now, but this also drips down into
public education K through twelve and private education and not
having the career centers of votech that you're talking about,
and some of it, I mean I remember my grandfather
taught owe the work experience in he taught the community

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I grew up in. The kids who went to school
half day and then went and got jobs.

Speaker 3 (10:13):
They're all business owners down there now. They're killing it.

Speaker 4 (10:15):
Yep. Rob always appreciate the time.

Speaker 3 (10:17):
Man, Thank you, hey, thanks for having me.

Speaker 8 (10:24):
Seven twenty one, Welcome back the blim Daddy Experience. Sam
and otis News Radio eleven seventy WWVA. We have quite
a busy show on tap. Just a few things housekeeping
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And then also on Tap, we have a couple other
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last set of tickets to the Resurrection Island Tattoo Convention,
which begins this Friday through Sunday. We have one more ticke,
one more pair of tickets for that. We have something new, Otis,
we have something new and this is first time to
the area, perfect timing of course Halloween season. We have

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a pair of tickets to the Vampire Circus.

Speaker 9 (11:38):
Okay, this it's they.

Speaker 8 (11:40):
They They coin it as the scariest side of Cirque. Okay,
so makes me think of like cirkdu Soles with a
you know, Carnival circus scary haunted theme. So we have
a pair of tickets to those, and that show is

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actually happening October tenth. Also, so we've got a busy
show on tap, including politics Unleashed. We have plenty of
stuff to talk about there. And then also just a
little bit of a tease. Chicago won an award, but
were the judges a little uh intoxicated because I don't

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know how they won it. But before we get into
all that, otis, you had quite the night last night.

Speaker 9 (12:29):
Oh just we went to see Elvis Costeller.

Speaker 8 (12:32):
How was it? I heard it was packed downtown. I
heard it was packed.

Speaker 9 (12:37):
I wouldn't call it packed, I mean it was. There
was a nice there was a nice crowd. Musically it
was great, Okay, but it took a long time for
the show to take off. I just like a lot of.

Speaker 8 (12:55):
The like the crowd to get into it.

Speaker 9 (12:57):
Well, the music was very slow. Okay, Elvis took a
few shots at it, not without saying it, but he
took he took shots at the government, you know, he's
One of the things he said was I've lived in
this country for forty years and I pay taxes and
I have no representation. He said, that's what you guys

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fought a revolution over. You pay taxes and you live here.
So I mean, I don't know what and he doesn't
have any, But then aren't you a citizen if don't
you have a representative in the in.

Speaker 8 (13:31):
The in the you know, is it in Congress or yeah, you.

Speaker 9 (13:34):
Know, I mean if you've lived here forty years, I
mean maybe you have dual citizenship.

Speaker 10 (13:38):
Was originally from England?

Speaker 8 (13:40):
Oh oh, I didn't know that. Yeah, so maybe not
the right location.

Speaker 9 (13:47):
To I mean, like after his first comment, and you
could tell it was a jab at Trump. Sure, you know,
you see people getting up and walking out, like you know,
from from their seat to the to the you know,
the lobby or whatever you want to call it. And
in my mind, I'm thinking, are these people leaving because

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of the comment, you know, or they just go, you know,
just going to the concession stand of the restroom or
something of that nature. And I'm just thinking. Of course,
there they were in other sections, and but you could
just see them leaving, so it was hard to see
if they went back to their seat or not. But
it was like, hmm. And I was looking around because
a couple of the people that I was with and

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the people some of the people that were around us,
you know, they're conservative thinking people, and I just was like,
and then there was there was like a couple of
shots and not necessarily a Trump, but the government. Then
he has a song called deported. Of course he made
a few comments about that. So the end of the
show was great. A lot of the upbeat songs were
at the end, but it took it like there was

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times I'm thinking to myself, oh my god, I'm only
sitting through this to hear the songs that I like.

Speaker 8 (14:57):
Now that's never good. That's never good.

Speaker 9 (15:01):
And the vocals, like on the upbeat songs, are on
some of the you know, more instrumental songs, like the
instruments drownded out, drowned out, the vocals oh, and maybe
that was intentional. Oh, I mean you know at this time,
you know, at this stage of your life, you never.

Speaker 5 (15:21):
Know you will.

Speaker 8 (15:22):
Yeah. Well, I mean that goes back to I mean
that's on a small scale, but that goes back to
we've talked about this multiple times. When are entertainers in
celebrities going to realize just entertain us?

Speaker 11 (15:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (15:36):
I think my anticipation for the show was greater than
the show. So but I can check it off my
bucket list.

Speaker 8 (15:44):
Well, and again that's not a knock on bringing them.

Speaker 9 (15:48):
No, no, no, no, no no. And I mean I just
I don't know if like if he could have mixed
the setup a little bit to maybe like there was
a time there that I mean, they did that like
a little folksy tech type thing, almost like a country
type song. Like there are two or three of them
like that. And I even looked at my buddy and
because it sounded I can I can remember being at
the jamboree as a kid at the show's here, and

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that's the music they were playing back in the early seventies.
Oh and I said to my buddy that was with me,
I said, this is going to wake some echoes up
in here, and he's like, you're not wrong.

Speaker 8 (16:24):
So shaking the rafters a little bit.

Speaker 9 (16:26):
Yeah, he's just I mean, but it was that style
of music that was played on that stage for so long.
And he even mentioned something about jamboree.

Speaker 8 (16:33):
Oh really Yeah, so he did his research shoes. Oh good,
Well that's that's that's good to know. Ah. Well, again,
like I said, it just goes back to sometimes entertainment,
you know, entertainers, celebrities, sports athletes, everything. Just just just
do what we want you to do. We don't care about,
you know, all of that kind of stuff. Just just

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entertain us. I came into a nice note this morning.

Speaker 9 (16:59):
Did you get left in the notes?

Speaker 8 (17:00):
I got left another note? I believe there was a
little pregaming going on in here. I don't know who
did that best, It says to Sam, the best talk
show host in the valley. Yes, better than bloom Daddy.

Speaker 9 (17:10):
He was drinking.

Speaker 8 (17:11):
Love your fans, PS. Keep Otis in line. I try
every morning, boy, do I try? Seven twenty eight?

Speaker 9 (17:19):
He did as well, you're listening to.

Speaker 8 (17:21):
The bloom Daddy experience. Otis in Sam News Radio eleven
seventy WWVA.

Speaker 4 (17:32):
I want to bring on Jen Brown. She's a parenting expert.

Speaker 2 (17:36):
She's also a certified life coach who specializes in teens
and young adults.

Speaker 4 (17:40):
Jen, thanks for being on the show.

Speaker 2 (17:42):
But I want to ask you how aggressively are social
media companies actually policing their platforms or are they just
kind of paying lip service right now?

Speaker 8 (17:52):
Hey?

Speaker 12 (17:53):
Hey, yeah, So you know the social media companies are
they're not built to protect our kids. They're built for
to keep them engaged, to keep them scrolling with the
cheap dopamine out there. And so although I think they're
trying to set up some regulations, it's not working. Like
these kids can get by their stipulations and their and

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their walls they've built, you know, by lying about their
age or going around. They're smart, So these kids are
figuring it out. It's not really giving them a whole
lot of protection from all this content coming in towards them.

Speaker 4 (18:27):
It wasn't it.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
It was a couple of years ago where the social
media companies admitted I believe in a court of law
that they have certain algorithms that were targeting young teenage
girls that were leading the suicide anarexia, things like that.
I thought they were told then to get get their
rear ends in line. But it seems like that's falling

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on deaf ears.

Speaker 13 (18:51):
You know.

Speaker 12 (18:52):
Part of me thinks that it's like the toothpaste is
out of the tube, Like it's hard to go backwards,
you know, when you reverse reverse the car. It's like, well,
these kids are like, well, I'm not going to put
boundaries like I've seen what it looks like. So it's
going to have to start with a new generation that
hasn't already been exposed to what a full freedom on
the internet and the average of five hours a day

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on social media not.

Speaker 4 (19:16):
Five hours a day. I mean, that's just such a
waste of time.

Speaker 2 (19:18):
Social media to me is the number one brain rot
in this world right now.

Speaker 4 (19:22):
I can't stand it.

Speaker 2 (19:23):
My kids have actually jumped off it and they say Dad,
and they're in their twenties. They said, it's made me
feel so much better. Look, Jen, you're a parenting expert.
How can parents protect their kids these days?

Speaker 3 (19:34):
You know?

Speaker 12 (19:34):
My number one thing with parents is do not depend
on these platforms to be their digital safety. Like you
can't just pass it over and be like, well, you know,
I Instagram has this new team account. That's not what
you can lean on. What they need to lean on
is building a connection with their kids. That is, you know,
spending time together, asking them there's three important times in

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the day to talk to your kid and check in
on them. It's when they wake up, it's the afternoon
after school, and it's right before they go to bed
at the very least. Now that's minimum, but checking in
with them. And here's the big deal, model what you
want out of your kids. If you're on your phone
twenty four to seven as a parent and you can't
have a conversation looking them in the eye, then they're

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going to pick up on that and they're going to
follow your lead. So these parents, and I'm a parent myself,
I have to set my phone down and really be
intentional with building that relationship with my kids.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
Jen, I'm glad you said that because I was going
to come back with that. All sounds great, But when
I'm out at a restaurant, I see three kids with
their face in the phone, and I see parents with their.

Speaker 4 (20:39):
Face in the phone. So to your point, you got
to lead by example for sure.

Speaker 12 (20:44):
Number one right there off the bat, because they're watching
and listen. If they see you doing it, they're not
going to listen. They're gonna be like, yeah, right, I
need to check this out, right, Like sure, sure, I'll
do that. But it's building that connection and then talking
having conversations. Suicide is another number two cause of teens.
And you know it's just gone out, So something's not working.

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We've got to rewrite how we're doing this while we
live with technology and social media.

Speaker 4 (21:11):
All right, Jen, thanks for jumping on here today.

Speaker 12 (21:13):
I appreciate it, no problem, thanks for having me.

Speaker 2 (21:15):
All right, that's Jen Brown, parenting expert. You got to
lead by example. I mean, she's exactly right.

Speaker 4 (21:19):
I do. I see it all the time.

Speaker 8 (21:22):
Well, and the big portion in this conversation was was
the social media, the grip that social media has on
our young people are teenagers. I think I agree with that,
but otis what you say, it's screens in general. So
you go out and actually I saw this two weeks

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ago right across the street. I went over to the
coffee shop across the street from US New Bridge, our
NB cafe, and I was meeting with some people and
there were three young teenage girls sitting there having drinks.
And as I was watching them, you know, I would

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glance at them. All three of them were at the phone.
All three of them were had their heads been over
looking at their phones. Here they are in a social
environment with two of their friends, you know, all three
of them together, and not one of them were looking
at each other. Now, were they on social media? I
don't know. More than likely they were probably texting each

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other as they were sitting there. But I think when
it comes down, it's it's social media is a huge
part of it.

Speaker 3 (22:31):
I am.

Speaker 8 (22:31):
I am not negating that, but I think it's screens
in general that have gripped us as a society. Whether
it's television, whether it's your it's your phone is what
it is, it's that little mini computer in your pocket.
And I am just as guilty as anybody else. But

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I mean things that have gone away conversation. Like the
expert said, but I remember back, you know, when I
was a teenager in the car. We even have screens
in our cars now that we don't even have conversations
when we're driving in the car. Some of the best
conversations I had with my parents as a teenager was

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in car trips, short vacations. That doesn't matter. Well, Number one,
you were forced to have those conversations because there was
nothing else to do in the car. But I think
we need to get back to that kind of stuff.
We need to have those long conversations in the car,
have to have sit down dinners with families again.

Speaker 12 (23:37):
You know.

Speaker 8 (23:37):
Now it's like, you know, Dad goes to the living room,
Mom goes to the kitchen, kids go to their bedrooms
when you have dinner. You know, those kinds of things.
Remove the screens from your hands and your face. It
has to be I mean, that is one of the

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biggest changes that we have seen, and you know, it
leads to what we are seeing. What we're seeing, I
mean Belmont County alone. If you remember a few months ago,
we had on the show Belmont County Corner Amanda Fisher,
and that was early on in the year and at

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that point in time, Belmont County was on pace to
set a record for teen suicide and she talked about
the impact of social media on teens. And I'm actually
working on having her back on the show to get
an update as we get close to closing out this
year where Belmont County is going to end on teen

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suicide if based upon what we talked about earlier in
the year, the pace that the county was leading where
we are as we wrap up the year. But I mean,
otis I mean, do you do you agree that just
open lines of communication need to return.

Speaker 9 (25:00):
I think communication needs to return just yeah, you know,
just I mean, like you said, I mean, it doesn't
matter what the age is. You go to a restaurant
and just look around and see how many people are
sitting across from their date, their wife, their husband, whatever,
and they're on their phones. They're not even communicating with
themselves so well.

Speaker 8 (25:19):
And you and I have talked about how texting has
hurt the English language. How you know communication is faltering.
I mean, we work in the industry of communication, and
I have seen people come and I've talked to business

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owners about this where the younger generation they can't speak,
they can't communicate, they can't just start not an in depth,
hard conversation, just off the cuff, just having a conversation
with somebody. They can't do it, whether it's you know,
how the weather today, did you see that game last night?

(26:03):
That is becoming a lost art. And I've experienced it firsthand.
I have talked to younger people and they're like why
tweeted them? What do you mean you tweeted them? That's
not communicating with somebody. That's not professional, first of all,
but that's not communicating with somebody. And now that we

(26:27):
have the capabilities of AI in the professional work environment
sending an email, people are to the point where you
don't even have to compose an email on your own
and communicate that way. So we've kind of diverted a
little bit from the parenting topic. But I think it's

(26:48):
an all encased, encompassing subject matter that social media and
screen time is not only hurting our young people when
it comes to mental health, body image, all of those things.
You then tie in communication skills and it's a huge,
huge impact, as we said, on young people, but also

(27:11):
the older generation too. I've caught myself doing it. I've
caught myself using AI for certain things and it's like,
why am I doing this? I can compose an email?
Why am I doing this? Eventually, humans aren't gonna have
to do anything for themselves hopefully just breathe, because that

(27:32):
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and leave a comment like Tyler did and Dave did,
so we'll be getting to those a little bit later
in the show. We do have a call Devo. Good morning, Devo,
how are you good morning?

Speaker 13 (29:17):
Just you know, having another wonderful smart ai smart phone day.
You know, everything's been banging and banging all over this
morning and just from my phone.

Speaker 8 (29:29):
Yeah, there you go, there you go. What are your
what are your thoughts on it?

Speaker 13 (29:33):
Well, you know your point is, yes, I mean the
whole world's going through it's a big adjustment period for
the last you know, ten years, and it's picking up
speed big time. As far as how to handle it, yeah,
I would just had an incident where daughter took the
phone away from her daughter, my granddaughter, and because you

(29:57):
were going out to their grandparents, her other grandparents, and
they were having an argument, she took the phone and
even though you know she was picked off for about
the first hour to drive out was quiet and all that.
It ended up being a really good evening. And you know,
it's like my daughter said, when they were sitting around

(30:20):
the fire and daughter's playing with the fire and they're
all talking. She said, Actually she seemed kind of relieved,
meaning her daughter, that she didn't have the pune, like
didn't realize how nice it can be without it, you know,
attached to your head. And it made me think, like,
you know, families can try different things. You don't have to,

(30:43):
you know, go all in and taking the phone away
and you know all day you can all try family
night of a half hour, that's it. Everyone puts her
phone in on the middle of the kitchen table and
you're not allowed to touch it for a half hour,
and then maybe once a half hours up, the first
one to grab their phone also has to take out

(31:03):
the guard. I don't know, you know, just make games
out of it and try to like not make it
so dramatic that you know, phones off all night or
all weekend, so you can maybe build up to that. Yeah,
just just small.

Speaker 8 (31:16):
Yeah moments, yeah, a small yeah, exactly, a small time
frame of family time. Yeah, family game night, Monopoly, shoots
the ladders, whatever age your kids are, you make a
really good point, Thank you, Davo. And and and notice
that's one thing my brother. My niece is seven, six

(31:37):
or seven at this point, and she has started asking
for a cell phone, and he has made it abundantly
clear that she will not have one. And he has
said that since she was really really small, that that
will not be part of her childhood. He has said

(31:57):
that he wants her to learn and know how to
think for herself, how to entertain herself, how to play.
I've had conversations with people that have said, you know,
because of technology, a lot of kids do not know
how to play, they don't know how to entertain themselves.

(32:17):
But Devo makes a good point there where he's said,
you know, you take it out of their hands, and
then they are forced to to do it. They are
forced to find a way to keep their keep themselves entertained,
and then childhood returns. You know, it comes back. It's natural.
It's a natural thing. And so Devo, thank you, uh,

(32:41):
thank you for the call. Appreciate it. It's you know,
it's affecting. It's one of those things that's affecting everybody,
even if you don't realize it. It is affecting. It's
affecting everybody. And I like what Davo said where He's
where he mentioned that he you could almost see the
weight come off of of his grandchild. That you know,

(33:03):
it's like their eyes open up. It's like, I'm a kid.
I'll be a kid and have fun. I don't have
to have my face in this screen. I mean, look
at what it's done to adults. I mean myself included.
I've said this before. Excuse me. My husband at a
certain point one vacation, took my phone off of me

(33:26):
and locked it in the safe of our hotel room,
and he said, you're done. You were on vacation. You're
on vacation. You're not working, you're not responding to any emails,
you're not responding to anything on social media. You are
separating and taking a break. And for the first day

(33:51):
I had fomo, really bad fear of missing out. And
by day two I stop. I thought I'm okay, and
then I realized I am having withdrawal. This is sort
of like withdrawal. Not that I've been through withdrawal on

(34:14):
drugs or anything like that, but I thought this has
got to what this is kind of what it's got
to be like where that's all I could think about,
What's going on on my phone? What am I missing?
What emails am I missing? What's happening on social media?
What's everybody else doing? What am I missing out on
back home? That's the addiction to the phone. That's what

(34:35):
it is. And honest to God, if it wasn't for
work in my responsibilities here, I would not have my
email on my phone and I would not be on
social media. Probably for my own sanity, I wouldn't be.
But that's where we are in this day and age.
Where we are now. We're at seven fifty eight.

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Speaker 8 (35:17):
Now eighth six Wednesday morning. The bloom Daddy Experience samon
Otis News Radio eleven seventy WWVA. It is a Wednesday,
so it's time for politics on leash. We've got Elgin
McCardell in the house along with Tony or Anthony Edmund
whichever heaper for Anthony either way, whichever you We're four. Oh,

(35:42):
thanks guys for of course coming in once again. We're
going to kick off with a question from Dave on Facebook.
It says, why can't we just put the past in
the rear view mirror and focus on the issues of today.
As an ardent supporter of Potus, it was disheartening, to
say the least, to see the constant efforts of the

(36:04):
previous administration to get to him. Now most of the
most of what we see today is going back after
the past again, although I seriously believe the last administration
was corrupt as heck, when is enough enough? This has
been going on since President George W. Bush left office
in two thousand and eight, So basically kind of like

(36:28):
tit for tat, going back and forth is what he's
you know, when can we just put the needs of
the current situation or everything that's happened currently in the country,
When can we put that as priority instead of blaming
the past and all of that? Can we move forward?
At a point, I'm going to throw this to you first, Tony.

Speaker 11 (36:48):
It would certainly be nice. I think sometimes it's really
on a case by case basis. It's fact dependent.

Speaker 8 (36:56):
What subject or what.

Speaker 11 (36:57):
Yeah, it's just a current topic. Depends on whatever you're
at talking about. So when we talk about doing things currently,
no matter what else is going on right now, necessarily
it'd be nice if they could get a deal to
open the government back up so they could do their jobs.
So if we want to talk about what's current, that
would be my number one priority, But really is on
a case by case basis about looking back and going forward.

(37:21):
So to focus on the hyper current, let's go ahead
and get the government back open. I don't think that's
a lot to ask of our senators and members of
the House representative and the President.

Speaker 8 (37:33):
We have a question on that too. But Elgin, if
you want to address this question with Dave's question, first.

Speaker 14 (37:38):
I think there's two things specific that Anthony addressed, and
then and then there's the general And I think here's
my answer to that specific question. I think you do
let bygones be bygones unless there is a criminal aspect

(37:59):
of it or a fraudulent aspect of it. I think
this administration is quote going after the last administration, not
necessarily for himself, but rather for the country. I think
He's always said, if they can do this to the
president of the United States, they can do it to you.
And we don't want to live in a third world

(38:21):
type country where like Russia, where if you're the political opponent,
we're just going to eliminate you, like Putin does. To
the specific answer on the budget, I find it interesting
that the CR that has been proposed is the same
CR that has been passed by the Democrats in prior
times when when they needed a CR passed continue resolution.

(38:45):
So for the Democrats to now dig their heels in
and say we do not want to pass this identical
CR that was proposed by the Biden administration to extend
and keep the government open, I think is little.

Speaker 10 (39:00):
What's the word I want.

Speaker 14 (39:02):
Hip a critical so for a specific for I agree
that we need to set aside differences, and I think
the problem with this particular issue and the opening of
the government, and maybe it's a conservative, right wing comment
that is coming out of me, but it's the Schumer shutdown.
You know, Schumer is concerned about AOC challenging him in

(39:26):
a primary and there seems to be a lot of
support for her and that type of thought process, so
to go back to the original question. I think it
is a matter of what does the constitution stand for
and what are you going after? So in prior administrations
there was a lot of finger pointing, well, we're here

(39:47):
because of you, We're here because of you, that kind
of thing, and that's tit for tat back and forth.

Speaker 10 (39:51):
I don't think that is productive.

Speaker 14 (39:53):
But if we need to address the prior administrations opening
the border and closing it, you know, that's in the
eagle thing that people are doing that has caused safety
issues and monetary issues for the country that needs to
be addressed.

Speaker 10 (40:07):
So it's a twofold. It is fact specific, but by the.

Speaker 14 (40:11):
Same time it is it is more not going after
the last administration, but basically the fallout trying to correct
the fallout of the last administration.

Speaker 8 (40:21):
Well, and this leaves perfectly into Tyler's question because the
first subject we were going to hit on today was
of course the shutdown, because we were officially at seven dates,
right it started last Wednesday. Votes. Yeah, So Tyler put
has this, most government shutdowns are blamed on Republicans. Trump
has managed to work his magic again and make the

(40:42):
Democrats look like fools. You also don't see the SOB
stories in the MSN about Grandma having to eat cat
food as in the past government shutdowns. I don't know
what that means. Yeah, I feel like when normal people,
which I feel like when normal people hear government shutdown,

(41:03):
the majority of people think good. I don't necessarily agree
with that that when you hear shutdown, you think the
majority of people think good. I don't think it's a
good thing. But at this point in time, you know,
now that we've hit a week, who's going to blink first?
With this shutdown? Who's going to I was gonna call

(41:25):
you Otis, I'm so sorry that should got to you first.

Speaker 10 (41:31):
Well maybe it won't answer because of that.

Speaker 8 (41:33):
She will not be back next week, Ladies and gentleman.

Speaker 11 (41:36):
I'm gonna turn to a cage.

Speaker 8 (41:40):
What was the question, who's going to blink first?

Speaker 10 (41:42):
Well?

Speaker 14 (41:43):
Trump's not gonna blink and Schumer's not gonna blink. But
here's what I think they should do. Instead of worrying
about the c R, how about worrying about a budget
we haven't had.

Speaker 11 (41:53):
Let's get a budget, a balanced.

Speaker 14 (41:56):
One, one that hasn't happened since nineteen ninety three, when
Clinton was presol In nude Gingrich was, you know, the
speaker of the House. So you know, in any household,
in any corporation, in any business, you have to have
a budget. You cannot exceed your budget. Once you exceed
your budget and you start deficit spending, then you're in
the hole. That's where we are, ladies and gentlemen, we're

(42:18):
in the hole. So you can fight all day about
a continuing a resolution and we've had continuing resolutions.

Speaker 10 (42:24):
Since nineteen ninety three.

Speaker 14 (42:26):
So how I can't even do that math when my
son's not thirty. So that was thirty two years ago.
So the last time we had a balanced budget was
thirty two years ago. And there has been a cr
whether it was Republicans or Democrats, everybody has just expanded
and you know, increased the deficit and we're deficit spending.
And until you bought balance your budget and live within

(42:48):
your means, so to speak, then it's not going to
be solved. And I think that's partially what Trump is
trying to do with the tariffs to try and he
has brought a lot of businesses back to the United
States and created income, but we're still in a deficit.

Speaker 8 (43:01):
So the government basically is a business. It is a business,
so it needs to the fiscal responsibility needs to be
part of the government planning, I mean, and we've lost
sight of that right well.

Speaker 11 (43:13):
I mean, I don't see the government as a business.
It can't run. If a business ran the way that
most state in the federal government run, they'd be out
of business a long time ago.

Speaker 8 (43:22):
But when it comes to fiscal responsibility, you have to consider, well, yeah, I.

Speaker 11 (43:27):
Mean, I have to do a better job than what's
been done for the last thirty two years. Not running
on a budget at all, let alone balancing a budget
is pretty embarrassing. And I'm the buck stops here kind
of person. Whoever's in charge, and it's your responsibility. You know,
the president right now is Trump. It's his responsibility. He's
at the head. Now. That doesn't mean that there aren't
other things that people are doing that can cause an

(43:51):
issue one way or the other. And it doesn't really
matter what party. I mean, people in the House and
the Senate are looking out for things that are specific
to them and that can get that can get sticky.
But you know, the buck starts there, so just get
it done. That's what people want. Get it done.

Speaker 8 (44:04):
Let's move on to the next and sit down and
have the hard conversations and say, like, you know, the
money that's gone to this is ridiculous. That's got to go.
The money that's gone to this is ridiculous. That's got
to go.

Speaker 10 (44:15):
I mean government waste.

Speaker 11 (44:16):
Yeah, and an actual analysis too.

Speaker 14 (44:18):
Right, and the shutdown, I mean doze in the shutdown.
That's all kind of working hand in hand to be
able to start to balance the budget. But that's where
they need to go. They can't do a cr then
they need to balance the budget.

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(44:50):
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(45:13):
News Radio eleven seventy WWVA. Congrats to our first winter
This morning Mike from Winnersville. He is going to Resurrection
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We're gonna have a pair tickets. This is a new
one to Vampire Circus that's happening this weekend too, Tony,
your face right here at the Capitol Theater. It is

(45:37):
is that Vampire Circus is They call it the scariest
side of cirque, So think cirk do so leg like
that kind of you know, acrobats and stuff, but with
a Halloween haunt type of that's coming here this weekend,
coming to the Capital Theater October tenth, waiting for everybody. Yep,
let's see here. Tantalizing sounds and mesmerizing illusion catapult audiences

(46:01):
into an emotional roller coaster of fear, joy, laughter, and
wonder So okay, adult themed, Well it would probably would
be my guest. But anyways, we're gonna have a pair
of ticket for those tickets for those.

Speaker 15 (46:14):
I've seen sate uh huh does the Capital have that
kind of technology to be able to do that. Oh,
like the apparatus and the apparatus, the sinking stage.

Speaker 8 (46:26):
I don't know, I don't know that's it.

Speaker 9 (46:29):
I will, but I'm sure it's adapted to the siders.

Speaker 3 (46:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (46:35):
Yeah, So anyways, we're gonna have a pair of tickets
for those here. A little bit later in the show.
You heard that voice, that's, of course, Eljiae mccartal, our
conservative voice. And then we have Anthony Tony Edmund are
even keeled? Do I call you liberal voice? I don't
think he's liberal.

Speaker 10 (46:54):
I'm gonna call him moderate.

Speaker 8 (46:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (46:57):
All right, so now we have the center we need to.

Speaker 8 (46:59):
Let No, that's a good way of putting it. Okay,
So I want to get into our next topic. It's
been the story all week long Chicago, Portland, the violence
that's going on, the attacking of ice officers, plain and simple.
I'm gonna I'm gonna put it this way. When does

(47:21):
quote unquote protesting turn to let's label it what it is, violence?
When when when do we put that hard line in
the sand and say this is not protesting anymore, this
is destruction in violence. I'm going to put this to
you first, Tony.

Speaker 11 (47:40):
I mean, I think in that instance, it's you know
when you see it. I don't think that's what's going
on right now Portland, Chicago and other places. I don't
think that the I think this is a it's a
solution in search of a problem. I think when there
are law enforcement issues, the first thing that should be
done is to contact local law enforcement and say, hey,
we have resources that are here available to you. Let's

(48:03):
work together to quell the things that are going on,
and doing with doing it with a surgical precision. I
think militarized police forces being out and actually calling up
National guardsman is a bad idea. It makes it I
think it's a bad idea. It beyond makes me uncomfortable.
And you know, even going back to fore fathers, that's

(48:24):
why the Third Amendment exists because it was on their minds,
which is the no quartering of Soldiers Amendment. For those
who were not so nerdy like me, it's because they're
worried about standing armies. That's what the British had walking
the streets, keeping people quote unquote in line, and ended
poorly for the British. So I think that's that's not
a good idea. But when it comes to if protests

(48:46):
start damaging property and they do get violent, yeah they
have to be quelled. But so long as they're not,
then you have to be You have to put on
your big boy pants, big girl paints, and as a
law enforcement agent, you do have to get the training
to deal with it, and you do have to do
with the people. Are the right to peacefully assemble? When
they're no longer peaceful, that's when things change. And you
really you know that when you see it.

Speaker 8 (49:06):
Are we seeing peaceful Elton?

Speaker 11 (49:08):
Not everywhere?

Speaker 14 (49:09):
No. I you know, there are peaceful protests, there's walks,
there's marches, there's those things that are peaceful. But I
guess it depends on what coverage you're watching. It depends
on which new station you're watching, which cable station you're watching.
Because there are instances of actual violence. There's actual violence

(49:31):
against journalists. Journalists are being arrested. And I think as
far as approaching the local law enforcement for purposes of
working together, I think that was tried. I think that
was attempted and it was rejected. I mean, you know,
the Chicago mayor has blatantly don't come here, we don't
need you. But yet there's a stand down.

Speaker 10 (49:53):
Was it Portland? I think it was Chicago.

Speaker 14 (49:56):
Where the there was actually a report or a print
and printed report that's advised police officers to stand down.

Speaker 8 (50:06):
And you know, yeah, yeah, the Chicago.

Speaker 10 (50:09):
That was Chicago.

Speaker 14 (50:09):
There's been Portland has been a mess since.

Speaker 10 (50:14):
COVID COVID, and I don't know that it's ever.

Speaker 14 (50:18):
There's a particular area that has never really gotten cleaned up,
and there are people who are citizens who want, you know,
law enforcement to come in, but I think law enforcement
at this point are concerned for their safety to go in.
And there are mixed messages, but I think that there
are there's ample evidence that there are pockets. It might

(50:41):
not be the entire city of Portland, it might not
be the entire city of Chicago, but there are pockets
wherein there are designated Antifa who are creating havoc, you know,
and that's where you cannot That's the difference. I mean,
when you start throwing smoke bombs, when you start attacking.

Speaker 8 (50:59):
Journalists, journalists during urine in their face, which happened earlier
this week.

Speaker 11 (51:03):
Yeah, I mean that's why I said, you note when
you see it. One of the reasons is skeptical. A
lot of what was going on in Portland five years ago.
There were that area that got shut down a few
blocks off was bad. I mean, it was just bad
and needed to be dealt with, and they did eventually
clean that up. But like I was, there was a
time when people were talking about how Los Angeles was
a hellscape and that they were horrible things happening while
that was going on. I was there, and that's not

(51:26):
what was happening. And Los Angeles is gigantic. The city's huge,
the county is bigger than the state of Rhode Island.
So there were a lot of things that people were like, Oh,
this is horrible. We can't walk down the streets it's
so terrible. There were small pockets where there are things happening.
But as my friends out there who commented when the
Dodgers won the World Series lest it was worse than
what they were talking about. So I think that people

(51:49):
have to be you gotta tamp things down, and you
got to make sure that you know what's going on
to be specific about it, and the responses have to
be proportional and not overdoing it. Don't people watch Family Guy.
But there was an episode years ago where the house
had fleas and they came in and shot all the
fleas with machine guns and destroyed the house. That's not
the right response.

Speaker 8 (52:11):
That came completely out of left field.

Speaker 14 (52:13):
Right now, we're doing family Guy.

Speaker 11 (52:16):
It's a metaphor though, No, but.

Speaker 10 (52:18):
A family guy. I have an orange wig. That's just
I just want to know it's dewie.

Speaker 8 (52:23):
But but you brought up a good point because I
want to talk about that and also Antifa. We're gonna
get to that here shortly. It's a twenty eight. You're
listening to the bloom Daddy Experience. Samon Otis News Radio
eleven seventy WWVA. Welcome back, eight thirty six on this Wednesday.

(52:47):
You're listening to the bloom Daddy Experience here on news
radio eleven seventy WWVA. We're right in the middle of politics,
unleashed Elgin and Tony in the house. All right, I'm
gonna read you a quote. Tell me if you think
this does anybody any good. Ice went from deporting the
worst of the worst to throwing grandmothers onto linoleum and

(53:11):
zip tying American children, and everyone's just supposed to be
cool with the new Masked Masked incredibly well funded paramilitary group.
John Stewart said that Monday on his show The Daily Show.
First of all, does he have any proof to back

(53:33):
up that statement? And in the grand scheme of things,
I don't care what side or you agree that does
not does that do any good for anybody Tony, those
types of statements.

Speaker 11 (53:44):
I mean, if that I don't know whether that happened.
If it happened, it's bad, Oh, absolutely, Jay, And I'm
fine with him pointing it out, But I don't know
the whole context. And I don't know what he said
after that. But as far as I mean, I I
am generally distrustful of law enforcement in general, and I

(54:04):
don't want to put boards in Elgind's mouth, but they
you know, there's a positive. People have rights that have
to be respected, and they can go too far. You
do want to be safe, but people's rights have to
ultimately be respected and their due process has to remain
in place. And then we've seen instances where that hasn't happened,
and I think that's problematic. I think pointing that out
is fine. I think there needs to be pushed back

(54:26):
on that because if one, then possibly many and that's
not okay. So I don't know the context in which
John Stewart was saying that. Again, I'm fine with him
pointing it out. I can go back and watch the
show and see what he said before and what he
said after, if he had videos or quotes or anything
back up what he was saying. But I don't have
a problem with him pointing that out if that's that's
if that's in fact what happened.

Speaker 14 (54:49):
I'm generally distrustful of media. I mean, you know, I
just I think there's there's a lot of spin. You're right,
there's context. I am at solutely a huge proponent of
constitutional rights, especially in the area of criminal law, because
when when people infringe upon your search and seizure rights

(55:09):
or I mean anything like that, do process, you are
entitled to it. There are good cops, there are bad cops.
There are good attorneys, they are bad attorneys. There's good doctors,
there's bad doctors in that. You know, unfortunately it's the
bad apple with the rotten worm in it that that
spoils the whole batch, and everything should be looked at

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in it's full context. But to answer your question, no,
I don't think that that helps. I think I think
it needs to, especially with John Stewart, you know what
I mean. I think in that context, I don't know
that it's appropriate there to do that, just as you

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want to call it out. The Virginia Attorney general candidate
who is running who the texted texted about.

Speaker 9 (56:02):
You're not familiar?

Speaker 10 (56:05):
Oh yeah, so he we were.

Speaker 14 (56:07):
I mean, early voting in Virginia has already started, and
the attorney general Democrat candidate basically, uh texted because there
was a Republican legislator who I think complimented a Democrat
something something. I forget the full backstory, but he said

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three bullets two for Do you have the.

Speaker 8 (56:32):
Quote, yea, three people, two bullets, Gilbert Hitler and p. O. L. Pott.
Maybe that is meant to be Potus. I'm not sure.

Speaker 9 (56:43):
Vietnam's dictator, Oh my apologies for Vietnam. Yeah it was.
It was in that timeframe of Vietnam.

Speaker 8 (56:51):
Oh okay, I've not heard that before. Gilbert gets two
bullets to the head. Spoiler. Put Gilbert in the crew
with the two worst people you know, and he receives
both bullets every time.

Speaker 14 (57:03):
And he went further to say that Gilbert's spouse or
wife should have to watch her child die in her arms.
I mean, this is the guy that is honestly it is.
It is documented in fact that he sent that, and
he has apologized to it.

Speaker 10 (57:19):
He said he called Gilbert and apologized for it.

Speaker 14 (57:21):
But when you're running for the highest law enforcement position
in the state and you have texted that, that is
a form of violence that should be called out and
no one's calling it about it, and it's just okay
to apologize for it because he admitted he said it.

Speaker 11 (57:37):
Right, If he's apologized for it, that's good. Should never
have said that now, And in my view, it's disqualifying.
I don't care who.

Speaker 14 (57:43):
Said it, well exactly exactly, and kudos for you for
saying that, but they But there has there have been
There has been no Democrat that has said that's a disqualifier,
and he's still on the blot.

Speaker 8 (57:54):
Well, and isn't that part of the problem is the
fact that we have gotten to the point where people
can say whatever they want to say and they're not
being held accountable. I don't care what political party your affiliate.

Speaker 14 (58:06):
Either way, either way, you're right, everybody should be held accountable.
But yeah, I mean but yes, and the governor who
was running against will win some seers.

Speaker 10 (58:17):
The Democrat has not.

Speaker 14 (58:19):
Called him out on it, and that would be her
top law enforcement agent. So it's it's causing quite a
sir in Virginia in that election.

Speaker 11 (58:29):
Yeah, I'm not. I haven't done a deep dive into
Virginia politics. I know that they're you know, they have
the offer elections and their governors up every four years
and can't run as an incumbent, so there's a lot
of attention on it, and then people will use it
as a bellweather. I haven't seen that, but you know
that's been said. That's it's it's absolutely not okay. I
don't care who said it's not. Okay.

Speaker 8 (58:48):
Yeah, yeah, okay. Switching gears a little bit. Pam BONDI
yesterday testifying she kind of hit this in a quote
that she made before I sent this to you. After
I sent this to you, you guys, but one of
the things I wanted to hit on Democrats at this
point in time. I mean, and I thought of this

(59:08):
yesterday because I made this point where if you spoke
to a lot of people protesting in Portland and Chicago
and everything else. Number One, are the actual citizens of
those particular cities, or are they hired protesters to be there?
Second of all, is it more important at this point
to hate Trump than it is to actually listen to

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the constituents and get things done? Do they know what
they're actually protesting against? I mean, do Democrats care about
accomplishing anything besides just hating Trump?

Speaker 10 (59:45):
Period?

Speaker 8 (59:46):
Who wants this first?

Speaker 11 (59:47):
Well, I can take it first. Yeah, they certainly are
the way that I view this isn't it. I'm not
a fan of Trump. I just put that out there.
I'm not Those who know you would be shocked to
hear that. But I've also had an opinion about him
for most of my life because my dad was a
big fan a long time ago, so that's early. Is

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ten years old. I started forming an opinion about him.
He's been in the public eye my entire life at
four years old.

Speaker 4 (01:00:13):
So yeah.

Speaker 11 (01:00:16):
There are plenty of things that people can use to
But what I like to focus on is just point
to something that's actually happened and say what you like
or don't like about it. You can something that he's
actually said or directive he's done, an executive order that
he's signed. I think there's plenty of that to criticize,
and I think that there are things that Democrats do
want to accomplish. I also think that Donald Trump does
a nice job of taking all the oxygen out of

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the room wherever he goes. He likes the attention, he
likes to stir things up. That's his nature. I think
for a lot of times it's for the worst. Sometimes
it's okay, but I think that there's an issue with that.
So I do think that Democrats have they do have
plans or things they want to accomplish. But at the
same time, you can't ignore the president and what he's saying,

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what he's doing, and I think that it's important too.
I would hold people in power accountable regardless if Obama
was president heated someone I didn't like, I'm gonna tell
you I don't like it, you know. So that's what
I think the focus should be more in that regard.
Just focus on the actual things on the ground. I've
talked about it here and I'll talk about it more.
But that's and I think that there are solutions that
the Democratic Party that has in place that they need

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to talk about more.

Speaker 14 (01:01:22):
I think that lumping everybody into one Democrat party is
the first mistake. I think that there are a lot
of Democrats who disagree with their party leadership, but are
not necessarily.

Speaker 10 (01:01:45):
Saying so.

Speaker 14 (01:01:47):
The Democrats have always been able to get everybody in line,
Nancy Pelos, who was really good of that, good about that?
Get in line, stay in line. This is the this
is the this is your message, and we stick to
the message, whether you agree with it or not. Right,
And so I think it's and I'm not so sure
it's the Democrat constituency as much as it's the Democrat leadership.

(01:02:12):
And the Democrat leadership is being swayed right now by
the left socialist and I don't know that there are
the majority of Democrats who necessarily agree with that viewpoint.

Speaker 8 (01:02:24):
They just won't speak up.

Speaker 14 (01:02:25):
They either don't speak up or they don't have enough
money to challenge and to get these people out of office.
And so it becomes a quagmire that's difficult to deal with.

Speaker 10 (01:02:34):
But I agree that.

Speaker 14 (01:02:36):
You're disdain for an individual should not be should not
cloud your ability to do your job.

Speaker 8 (01:02:44):
So we've had a family guy reference in quagmire US
this morning, Ladies and gentlemen, coming up, we're challenging coming up,
We're going to talk the anniversary yesterday. Just got a
couple questions on that. We can't let it pass, but
want to hit on that. Also Politics Unleashed with Tony

(01:03:04):
and Elgin. It's a forty six. You're listening to the
bloom Daddy Experience. Samon Otis News Radio eleven seventy WWVA.
Welcome back. It's eight fifty here on the bloom Daddy Experience.
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(01:03:27):
remind we're gonna have coming up your chance first time
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up here very very shortly before the end of the show. Okay,
I want to get into the three year anniversary yesterday,
the I'm sorry second anniversary. My numbers are off. It

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was a slaughter, it was an invasion. It was it
was hard to watch. It was yes, it was vile.
There were almost celebrations in the streets in New York
City yesterday. The un A couple weeks ago, I was
sitting here and Unatta who got up to speak, and
half of the world leaders walked out of the room.

(01:04:14):
What am I missing with? For example, using the UN example,
what am I missing? It was his people that were slaughtered,
it was infants that were beheaded in his nation, and
world leaders can't sit there and listen to him speak.

Speaker 14 (01:04:33):
I think, I think the objection is not necessarily to
the incident, but rather to the reaction. That's that's where
I'm going to place my analysis on why the leadership,

(01:04:54):
you know, walked out. It's more the reaction, the level
of the reaction. And while every leader of his own
country has the right to make those decisions.

Speaker 10 (01:05:08):
I still think that, oh gosh it, it has to
be done in response.

Speaker 14 (01:05:18):
And it's hard for me to say because I don't
have all the facts, certainly in those positions, even the
President of the United States, when you are in the
what's that room, that situations situation room where the kitchen, Yeah,
well it's the kitchen for the government, but the situation

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room where you are you know, all your leaders, all
your cabinet, They're all coming at you with different viewpoints
what to do, and you have to make a decision
to risk x amount of lives versus you know, you know,
one hundred lives versus one life, which one's more important.
Neither is more important. But if you have to save
three hundred at the expense of one's, that's why they're

(01:06:04):
the leaders. I mean, that's why they're elected. They make
that decision. It's a hard one to make. But I
think to answer your question on what you're missing, I
think what is missing is the reaction. The reaction part.
That doesn't mean to say that in the UN you
should have enough respect for everybody to sit there and listen.

(01:06:24):
I mean that you're there for a reason. The UN
is there for a reason, although I question whether the
UN is even effective anymore.

Speaker 11 (01:06:32):
Yeah. Well, we could have a long discussion about the UN,
and I have a lot of thoughts on it. But
what I will say is that I agree and largely
with what Elgin said. Is it's the response to that
that people have an issue with. And I know even
the Israeli people are unhappy about a lot of things
that are going on that have been done. I think,
you know, as some sort of comparison after nine to
eleven we went into Afghanistan, I think most people are, yeah,

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we need to do that. If that's the INTEL tells
us that that's where bin Laden is. He's been a
safe haven. You need to go and get twenty one
years later, you know, things changed over time, a lot
of new things developed, and it's going to change your
opinion on what's specifically happening. I think that there's a
bit of that going on about what's actually happening on
the ground, some decisions that are made, and again I

(01:07:16):
would yield to the Israeli people about that. They're the
ones who are much more into.

Speaker 8 (01:07:22):
Well okay. So that brings me to I had a
wonderful conversation Monday with some with a gentleman who I'm
hoping to have on the show who is from that
region of the world, and I believe he was part
of the Lebanese Army, had a lot of interactions, has
a lot more history in first hand accounts with the

(01:07:43):
Middle East, and a lot of that stuff. So that
takes me back to are we as American citizens not
educated enough on the history of the Middle East and
the interactions that when we see what happened in Israel,
we see the protesting and support of Palestinians in Gaza

(01:08:04):
and all of that. And I'm going to use myself
as an example, that we are quick to judge and
pick a side without enough historical education on the inner
workings of what has gone on over there.

Speaker 11 (01:08:19):
Right, I would say generally that's true. I think we
have more of a short we have more short term
memory than long term and the arc of this story
goes back thousands of years.

Speaker 15 (01:08:30):
Yes, right, I was just going to say it's biblical.

Speaker 14 (01:08:32):
I mean it is biblical, and and it's it's almost
it's a religious war, which it's very difficult to win
a religious war because of the religious beliefs that are
attached to you know, the situation. I mean that Gaza
strip and who is entitled to it? Who it actually
belongs to? Israel, Palestine? You know, all you know is

(01:08:55):
Palestine even a state? So there are it goes for
thousands and thousands of years.

Speaker 8 (01:08:59):
Because when you see the college students out there and
you know, lesbians for palace, you know palace. Okay, do
you really know what you're supporting now? Because if they
went over there.

Speaker 14 (01:09:10):
They're supporting the or they're supporting a an objection to
the response.

Speaker 10 (01:09:18):
I think that's that's what they're doing.

Speaker 14 (01:09:19):
It's not I don't think that they're supporting necessarily Palestine
because LGBTK, I'm sorry, if.

Speaker 10 (01:09:27):
You went over there, right, you would have no rights.

Speaker 11 (01:09:30):
Kind and poorly. And also I wouldn't want people to
hold me to what I believed when I was in college.

Speaker 8 (01:09:35):
Well that's a good point.

Speaker 11 (01:09:37):
And the limits to what you're you know, your realm
of information and understanding and education. Yeah, it's it's formative,
but I think there's a people need to have more
discussions there.

Speaker 8 (01:09:47):
And yeah, but then that also takes us to and
we don't have time for this, but takes us to
what are our colleges teaching our young adults and who
are influencing them and the perspectives that they're being presented
as opposed to just teaching them as opposed to you know,
ideologies and political viewpoints and all that kind of say

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we do not have time to get into.

Speaker 10 (01:10:10):
I'll get you back to Charlie Kirk.

Speaker 15 (01:10:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:10:12):
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Speaker 10 (01:10:44):
I will not get it wrong again.

Speaker 8 (01:10:46):
Everybody, have a great Wednesday. We'll be back tomorrow