The Bloomdaddy Experience with Otis & Sam October 15, 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
Bloom Daddy Experience. It's seven oh six on news Radio
eleven seventy.

Speaker 3 (00:25):
So obviously, the big news of.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
The last forty eight hours is the Gaza ceasfire plan
authored by President Trump. But for a lot of people
out there, they say, now comes the hard part. Now
comes the part where everybody's got to do what they've
agreed to do, and that includes a terrorist organization who
has never done what they have agreed to do. Andrew
Boston is an expert on the Middle East, author of

(00:49):
the Legacy of Jihad in the Legacy of Islamic Anti Semitism. Andrew,
thanks for coming on here. First of all, give me
your your view on this piece plan and do you
think it will stick?

Speaker 4 (01:05):
Well, I must say I'm I'm happy. I'm elated for
the Israeli people, particularly the families of the of the
remaining hostages and and even the deceased hossages who are
getting the remains. I mean, that is a that is
a a wrenching issue in Israel and and I hope
this gives them, you know, some peace. And it does

(01:28):
appear as if certainly all the life hostages have been returned.
I guess there's still some haggling over the remains, but
so so to me, that's that's the main accomplishment of
this deal. Frankly, I'm I'm dubious about everything else in
regarding the deal. I I you know, step number one

(01:51):
that's going to be major hurdle. Is this provision that
calls for disarming hamas. Is that actually going to happen? Uh?
See the partners, the alleged partners in peace, you see
Egypt and Turkey, and of course Cutter, I don't trust
any of those countries. They've all been fomenting jihadism in

(02:12):
the region and beyond the region, and certainly in the
case of Qatar for many for many years now, we
discovered when the Israelis went into Rafa, for example, that
you know, despite the peace with Egypt, and it's been
a cold tease, but it's been a piece since nineteen
seventy nine, there was a massive tunnel network going into

(02:33):
into Rafa, which clearly helped supply Hamas. And that was
you know, under Egyptian watch, and obviously they gave you know,
they gave their consent to that. So I'm very I'm
very dubious. You know, there was an interesting video of
children celebrating with adults leading them on Pealestonine children and

(02:56):
they were screaming Hudna, Hudna, hudna, And I'm like, yeah, yeah,
well that's that's really what it is. I mean, a
hudna is is a is a cease fire basically. And
it goes back to this tradition of Muhammad where he
was he strikes an armistice with this tribe to karage

(03:17):
this pagan tribe because they were stronger than him. Uh.
And it became a principal and when and when the
Muslims were stronger under Muhammad, they unilaterally broke the treaty
and attacked and ultimately vanquished the karash And and uh,
this has become a principle of Islamic law that you
you you are obligated to bid for a truce only

(03:41):
only when you're weaker, uh. And that and that you're
obligated to break it unilaterally when you when you are
or you perceive yourself to be stronger.

Speaker 3 (03:50):
Okay, let me stop her there.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
So based on that, this then would just be Hamas regrouping,
because you have to think the only reason they would
agree to this, This is a group who wants to
wipe Israel off the face of the earth. So they're
not going to agree to anything unless they've got nowhere
to go.

Speaker 3 (04:09):
They've been depleted.

Speaker 5 (04:11):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
You know, I'm sure the Masade has killed most of
their high ranking individuals. Do you think this is just
simply in agreement by them, by them to buy some
time and regroup.

Speaker 4 (04:24):
I mean, history would tell you that that's all I
can say whether whether they've been so decimated by this war,
this this this awful war for the last two years,
that even if that's their fervent desire, they'll be incapable.

Speaker 3 (04:38):
Of doing it.

Speaker 4 (04:39):
But again, what also makes me leary is our reliance
upon particularly cuts are as as as as as supposed
supposedly some sort of honest broker, when when we know
that they were they've been funding Hamas lavishly for for
a long time, harboring some of its leadership in Doha. Uh,

(05:01):
And you know, the the the the religious incitement that
gets preached by by in in cuts are through the
mosques and and through Al Jazeera. Uh, is just it's
just horrific. It's it's it's certainly anti Semitic and pro
gy hot and it's also anti American. And I'm I'm
very disappointed that, you know, we haven't changed course. You know,

(05:25):
it reminds me eerily of of all the years of
coddling the Sautis, you know, for their oil, et cetera,
for their alleged you know, for their anti communism at
different phages, and and then we got nine to eleven,
you know. So I think Cutzer has a tremendous uh
sphere of influence in the United States, both in politics
and education. And I think we're heading where, if anything,

(05:49):
it seems like we're intensifying the nature of the relationship.
And I think that's uh, I think that's a really
dangerous precedent. And if that's a byproduct of this agreement,
and it appears to be, I'm very I'm very uh
disturbed by that.

Speaker 3 (06:05):
I agree with you.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
And again we're talking Andrew Boston, expert on the Middle East,
author of the Legacy of jihad and the legacy of
Islamic anti Semitism.

Speaker 3 (06:12):
Andrew, last question I have for you.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
Are you surprised by the support, the free Palestine support
and the anti Israeli sentiment within our own government and
what would you say to those individuals.

Speaker 3 (06:28):
Is bad guy?

Speaker 4 (06:31):
Yeah, I'm not, because it's it's there, these people that
are in the State Department or wherever else they are. Unfortunately,
they're they're a product of our educational system, which is
which has been so warped on on this issue and
the whole you know, post colonial narrative. And I'm not
the least bit surprised. I mean, you're going to get

(06:52):
people like this. They're they're they're they're being they're being
trained through the system, through our through our very defisi
and warped education system, and they're products of these schools,
even so called elite schools, and some of them are
the worst actually, and you know, I just they're not
being taught, they're not being taught real history, they're not

(07:14):
being taught honestly about Islam. The teaching on Islam is
terribly whitewashed. And you know it's the it's the left's
favorite and probably the left only religion, if certainly favorite religion. Uh.
And it's it's just it's very predictable. I just want
to point out one final thing is that you know,

(07:34):
what's what throughout the throughout the past couple of years,
the most one of the most strident voices pro Hamas,
strident voices has been this pinnacle of Sunni Islamic religious education,
which is Alazar University in Cairo. It's the nearest that
you can get to a Vatican equivalent for Sunni Islam,
which still represents about ninety percent of Muslims. They were

(07:55):
cheering on Hamas the day of the attack, calling it,
you know, brave resistance. Less than two weeks later, Alazar
issued to Fatua which declared that all Israelis were legitimate
targets of jihad since they serve in the military. Blah
blah blah. And they've been strident, you know, saying what's
going on, the retaliation by Israel is a genocide. They

(08:18):
have been I checked their web their Twitter account. They
have been silent on these accords. And one of the
one of the last things they posted about a week
ago was a celebration of the nineteen seventy three initial
incursion by the Egyptian army, which was in fact victorious,

(08:39):
and you know, ultimately the the Israelis repulsed them and
and and you know, basically re re re reacquired this
whole Sinai peninsula back to the Suez Canal. But that's
what they posted in the midst of the negotiations. And
since the negotiations came to fruition that you know, now

(09:00):
this silence out of Alazar University, to me, that is
very revealing. You know that they can't even acknowledge the ceasefire.
And when they were screaming about this this phony, you know,
charge of genocide and the destruction. Okay, so now there's
a ceasefire. So why aren't you happy? Why aren't you

(09:21):
celebrating it? You know, it just tells you. It just
tells you that the jihadism, the Jew hatred.

Speaker 3 (09:26):
Trump's Aul.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
Andrew Boston, expert on the Middle East, cautiously optimistic at
this point, as am I Andrew always thankful, thank.

Speaker 3 (09:35):
You, Okay, take care all right, you too.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
He's also the author of the Legacy of jihad in
the Legacy of Islamic Anti Semitism.

Speaker 6 (09:47):
Well, good morning, seven one. On this Wednesday. Thank you
for joining us of course the bloom Daddy Experience, Otis
and Sam News Radio eleven seventy WWVA. You know that
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(10:11):
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(10:33):
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(10:53):
contact with. Is an understatement, right, Otis, You've don't count No,
He's been sitting in there as we were getting ready
this morning, and I kept hearing this like drink doink.
He's in their counting tickets or something for something. So yeah,
sounded a little bit of a little bit of knocking. Anyways,

(11:15):
all right, let's get into some local headlines to kick
it off. This morning, authorities are searching for two men
in connection to a string of car thefts. It happened
earlier this week in Glendale, and officers received multiple phone
calls about these vehicle break ins. Investigators believe the suspects
would target another vehicle if they came across a car

(11:37):
with locked doors. Anyone with information is asked to come forward.
Along with that, I'll just pipe in and throw this
in there. If you have security cameras and you're in
the vicinity of where these cars were stolen, check your footage.
Go back and check your footage. Everything's on camera nowadays, everything,

(11:58):
So if you were within in the Glendale area where
these car thefts have happened, go back and check your
security cameras and be helpful to your friends and neighbors
in the law enforcement looking into this. Statewide, Governor Patrick
Morrissey says West Virginia will continue paying to keep national
parks open during the federal shutdown. The state's donation agreement

(12:20):
was set to expire Friday evening, just before Bridge Day
on Saturday. Morrisey plans to extend the funding through the
end of the month if needed. The original fourteen day
cost is nearly ninety eight thousand dollars, but the governor
says it's worth protecting small businesses that depend on fall
tourism at Harper's Ferry and New River Gorge because if

(12:43):
you've ever traveled to that part of the state this
time of year, it is beautiful, absolutely beautiful.

Speaker 7 (12:50):
I heard something we were talking not too long ago,
but they said that Bridge Day is the largest, which
I don't agree with because I think, you know, you
go to the Big House in Michigan or Penn State,
they have stadiums over one hundred thousand people. But they
say that it's one of the largest gatherings one day
gatherings in the United States. Bridge Day.

Speaker 6 (13:14):
That that seems far folks.

Speaker 7 (13:16):
No, there's there's more than a hundred thousand people there really.
Oh yeah, people come from all over Okay. They said
that they closed the two lanes down on the bridge,
so they closed like the north northbound lane and it's
your shoulder to shoulder the whole way.

Speaker 6 (13:32):
Hmm.

Speaker 7 (13:34):
Interesting over they said, well over one hundred thousand people.

Speaker 6 (13:37):
I wouldn't I wouldn't guess that. I wouldn't guess that
for Bridge day, but okay, uh and then a high
valley residents, Uh oh, it's that time. You should take
time to protect your outdoor plants from the cold weather
that's going to be hitting later today. The National Weather
Service has issued a frost advisory for eastern Ohio as

(13:57):
well as northern as well as the Northern and Northern
Panhandle of of course West Virginia. Overnight temperatures are expected
to dip down into the thirties. The frost advisory will
last until nine am tomorrow morning, So get ready for that, folks.
We are there, Unfortunately, we are there. And one other

(14:19):
thing I wanted to mention there is a story developing
that we are working on thanks to you know, you
the listener. That's one thing I wanted to put out there.
You know, a lot of the time, we can't be
everywhere all the time and know everything everywhere all the time.
There's only so many hours in the day. What comes

(14:40):
in really handy and we can't thank you enough. Are
the leads, the information that our sources provide to us.
And there was something sent to us last night that
we are looking into in regards to social media, some
social media posts in a possible candidate. We are digging
into that and once we have everything verified, we will

(15:03):
bring you that story. But what that highlights is the
fact that you are listeners. You're our eyes and ears.
You are our eyes and ears, and that's what we
need from you. When you let us know about this stuff,
we go digging, We go digging. I can't tell you
how much we do. But again, you are our eyes

(15:25):
and ears. And as I said, we can't be everywhere
all the time, and that kind of when you give
us these leads, provide us this information, these posts, you know, screenshots,
It is so helpful. So I can't I can't thank
you enough. But again, we are digging into what was
sent to us last night, and once we verify and everything,
we will bring you details on that. So and then

(15:51):
let's get into let's see here. Let's see here. Oh
sports baseball otis all right, you quiz me at the
top of the show, but I'm gonna give it a
whirl and you can laugh at me. So what I'm
talking about is a name, Yoshi Nubu Yamamoto.

Speaker 7 (16:11):
Not bad close?

Speaker 3 (16:12):
Was that?

Speaker 4 (16:12):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (16:13):
Yoshi Nobo?

Speaker 6 (16:14):
Yoshi Nobo, I said Nubo, didn't I okay? And what's
the last name?

Speaker 7 (16:19):
Yamamoto?

Speaker 6 (16:20):
I got that one? Go ahead, you take it well.

Speaker 7 (16:23):
He tossed the first complete game in the postseason since
twenty seventeen. The Dodgers beat the Brewers five to one
last night in Game two of the NLCS. Yamamoto earned
his second win of the playoffs after totally seven strikeouts.
And I have one run on just three hits. Tayascar
Hernandez and Max Montza each hit solo homer as, while
Enrique Hernandez went two for three with two runs scored.

(16:45):
Dodgers now lead the best of seven series two to
oh and Jackson Turio from Milwaukee scored to loan run
on a solo homer in the first Freddy Peralder was
tagged with the loss on the mound. The Dodgers host
the Brewers in Game three on Thursday. American League Championship
Series picks back up today.

Speaker 6 (17:01):
Nice, it's seven twenty eight on this Wednesday. You're listening
to the bloom Ditty Experience Otis and Sam News Radio
eleven seven, seven thirty six. Welcome back to bluem Ditty
Experience Sam and Otis News Radio eleven seventy WWVA. I
want to mention this for my friends with fur babies, puppies, doggies.

(17:24):
Received this yesterday from former Sheriff Dave Lucas of Belmont County.
If you're not familiar out in oh it just completely
escapes me now. But out in Belmont County is the
dog park that was done in honor of his retirement. Well,
happening this Saturday. There will be a fall festival, Bring

(17:48):
your dog, bring There's gonna be food trucks, there's gonna
be craft enders, a Chinese auction. This is all in
support of the dog park. Now, this is over by
Belmont College. I always use I I've always called it
the Jambery in the Hills ramp. But exit, but that
exit there you turn right and it is down behind
the Health Department building in Belmont County. So again that's

(18:10):
happening this Saturday, the eighteenth, So take advantage of that
and take your furry friends with you so it'll be
a good time. It's a really, really lovely park. It
happens from a late eleven am till four pm. So
something to do on a beautiful fall after noon. Something
to do? Otis?

Speaker 7 (18:31):
It was funny.

Speaker 6 (18:32):
Yesterday I stopped at our friends at Respects. Needed some
lunch meat. Honestly, that's all I needed, was some lunch meat.
But stopped at our friends at Respects and I was
standing there talking and this person looked at me and
said I know who you are and said yeah. They said,

(18:53):
I'm Sam and got to talking and he said, you're
not at all what I expect you to look like. Well,
I looked at him and I said, I don't know
if I really want to ask which direction?

Speaker 7 (19:10):
Nope, you never do.

Speaker 6 (19:13):
So I thought that was funny. I thought that was funny.
I thought, Okay, you know you gotta love honesty though, too.

Speaker 7 (19:21):
I mean, what do you mean you said it was funny.
I said it was hysterical.

Speaker 6 (19:27):
Shut up, shut up. He turns his mic off. Anyways,
what did that? I hate when there's some sometimes there's
so much stuff on my desk. Okay, so I want
to talk about college. And here's why. There's two things.
First of all, we've got politics coming up in the

(19:50):
eight o'clock hours. So we're gonna get to all of
the national stuff and in everything that's happened, we're gonna
get to it there. So, but there's a new study
out that says more than a third of Americans would
redo their college experience if possible. So they surveyed two
thousand adults and found that thirty eight percent want a

(20:11):
complete do over, including forty three percent of those being
college graduates. So otis, I've heard your college stories. I
would do a do over.

Speaker 7 (20:23):
You haven't heard all of them.

Speaker 6 (20:26):
I've heard the ones that are safe for the microphone.
We'll say that I would want to do over. If
this was asked to me in the survey, I would
want to do over. I don't feel as if I
had the real college experience because I hear your stories,
I hear my brother stories, I hear other peoples, and

(20:47):
it's like, oh, yeah, that's what college was supposed to be.

Speaker 7 (20:51):
I don't know if I would do a do over.
I think there are a couple things that I would change,
and they're not like most of them aren't life changing decisions.
You know, had I known my freshman year what I

(21:11):
knew my senior year, I would have made some other
choices my freshman year. The would I have changed my major?
I might have, knowing what I know now, But because
if I had I gone a different direction, I could
probably be retired by now, to be honest, you know,
So there are there are a few things that I mean, like,

(21:36):
I'm not disappointed with anything, but if I had to
do over, I don't know if I would change my
I mean, I would consider changing my major, but there
are a few little and they're just little things that
I would have done differently.

Speaker 6 (21:51):
Well, see, mine, I wouldn't change my major. Mine isn't
more about what I went to school for. Mine was
Mine's more of these social side of college. And I've said,
I've said I went to West Liberty and and I
don't want this to be a knock on West Liberty,
but because of its limited yeah, because of its physical location,

(22:13):
because of it being I believe it's still this way.
But when I was there, it was a dry campus.
And not that drinking is everything, I am not saying that,
but when it comes to this social aspect, it's limit.
Like that's a good word. It's limited at West Liberty
because of its physical location. And I never understood. I

(22:35):
never understood why it was if those students that were
old enough to drink and wanted a social life, you
couldn't do it on campus. You had to drive off
of that god forsaken hilltop. I never understood the thinking
behind that, But I think, but I just I've always
thought that.

Speaker 7 (22:56):
Obviously you weren't creative enough to beat the system.

Speaker 6 (23:00):
I just I didn't break rules. I'm not a rule breaker.
My mind doesn't work that way. But I've always felt
that my college experience was limited because of where I
chose to go, and because it was boring. I don't
know how the other way to say it. Because it
was boring, I worked. It gave you something to do

(23:25):
when you weren't in class. And as soon as I
was old enough to get in an apartment and get
off campus, I got off campus, and I was more
willing to drive up that hilltop and live and have
more of a social life off the hill than being
on campus. And again, I loved my time at West Liberty.

(23:47):
I don't want this to be a complete, you know,
bashing of that university, because it's not all, but the
social side of it was limiting in it, you know,
and again. I hear Otis's stories, I've heard my brothers.
I've heard many stories of people's college experiences. Mine not
even remotely close to fun.

Speaker 7 (24:08):
There was one time when it was it was Pitt
football weekend, so Pitt was coming to town and everybody
was having a party. And my buddy and I lived
on Willie Street, which is one of the main drags.
But we lived in a basement and there was two
apartments above us, and we had a nice little parking

(24:29):
lot in the back that was off you know, it
was a gravel but I mean it was a level.
So we said, hey, we're having a party. The area
that where my ex girlfriend lived, there was a group
of houses there. They called it the ghetto, and they
had like a little center.

Speaker 6 (24:43):
My brother lived in the ghetto.

Speaker 7 (24:45):
Yeah, and then there were some other people. We always
dealt with a distributor in Point Mary in Pennsylvania because
my roommate had a tap, but it was a two
prong tap, so you could only get certain kinds of
beers to fit the two prong tap. So Stros was
one of them. So we always did Strows. So when
we went over, they said, well, where do you guys

(25:05):
get your beer? And we said, well, we get it
over in Point Mary in Pennsylvania at Corentis Distributing, And
I think we had twelve vehicles and I think he
sold pretty close to sixty kegs to us, Like everybody
had at least three or four kegs in their vehicles.
And this was for the pit weekend.

Speaker 6 (25:28):
Wow, so that's a lot.

Speaker 7 (25:33):
He was very It got to the point where the
distributor would send my roommate night Christmas cards. That is
the honest to God's truth.

Speaker 6 (25:44):
When you showed up, was there like a red carpet
rolled out, you know, these are our vehicles.

Speaker 7 (25:48):
Well, he eventually like he would give us beer signs,
he would give us like promotional items. I mean we
were like we were almost like a business. We bought
so much beer off ubbing.

Speaker 6 (26:00):
Oh gosh, wow, see that's what I'm talking about. I
don't have those kind of stories unfortunately.

Speaker 4 (26:06):
Ugh.

Speaker 6 (26:06):
You ever think you know if I would have went
left instead of right, or I made this decision, like
where you.

Speaker 7 (26:12):
Would be Every decision is in your life is already
predestined because no matter the decision that you make is
meant for a reason.

Speaker 6 (26:23):
Deep thoughts, What was it? Deep thoughts? By Jack Handy.
Was that what SNL now very seven forty five. You
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(26:45):
the Bloomdaddy experience here on news radio eleven seventy w
w VA seven fifty one. Welcome back to Glendaddy experience.
Otis and Sam News Radio at eleven seventy WWVA coming

(27:07):
up here very shortly. We're gonna have politics unleashed, so
we're gonna get into all of those headlines. You know,
Otis we talked about said, you know they're always listening
social media, they're always listening. We were just talking about
our college experiences. Right. His was better than mine, His
was more fun than mine. I will just say sixty

(27:30):
kegs of beer.

Speaker 7 (27:30):
One weekend, Well that wasn't all at one place, that
was scattered throughout all towns.

Speaker 6 (27:35):
Okay, I thought that was like.

Speaker 7 (27:36):
Our party had five or six Okay.

Speaker 6 (27:39):
I got youa Okay, I misunderstood I thought you met
it was one huge football party. Okay, well I got this.
This of course comes up on my feet. I am
actually glad I went to college. When I went to college,
because this craziness isn't going on. Harvard has struck again,
Ladies and gentlemen, the institute that is supposed to be

(28:00):
the creme de la creme of higher learning in this country. Well,
now students at Harvard can earn credit studying RuPaul's Drag Race,
the TV show. It's a reality show. If you're not
familiar with it, think about that. You can earn college

(28:26):
credit at Harvard University studying a drag reality show. Here's
the key, here's the kicker, taught by a drag queen
Nice Nice. Would you like to know the name? No, Okay,

(28:47):
I don't care. I don't even know if I could
actually say so.

Speaker 7 (28:49):
I remember WB we had a class. I have no
idea what the class was. So it was my It
was myself, my girlfriend and her roommate were all in
the same class together and somewhere along the line, and
this is the only thing that I remember about the class.
We had to break down with Our assignment was to

(29:10):
break down the Billy Joel's video of We Didn't Start
the Fire. Now, that wasn't the whole class, okay, but
that was like a two week assignment you had and
then you know, like what you had to interpret it
because there was a lot of history being sung about
in that song and that was part of it. And
it wasn't necessarily the video. I mean, the video helped,

(29:32):
but it was also about the song. And I just
remember that was probably one of the dumbest assignments that
I've ever had in my life.

Speaker 6 (29:39):
I will say this, I took documentary Film, one of
my favorite classes, the history of you know, filmmaking for
the documentary genre. I absolutely love that class. But I
will say this, and for those listening, anybody who went
to communications, radio and TV newspaper at West Liberty. When

(30:05):
I was there, it was West Liberty State College. Now
it's West Liberty University. I've actually asked if I donated,
they would update my diploma to say university. They will not.
I tried. I tried. Mister Bill Hannah. He was my
journalism teacher. He ran the Trumpet, which was the newspaper

(30:25):
up there at the time. He was my He taught
me how to write movie reviews. If you remember back
in the day, he wrote the movie reviews for the
newspapers here and Wheeling. But he had a class called
media Law, and it was all of the rules and
regulations when it comes to the media. And it didn't

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matter if it was print journalism, if it was radio,
if it was TV. It was a fascinating class. I
to this day, I still have that book. And he
made it fascinating, he made it interesting. And we just
within the last two years, I believe we lost mister Hannah.
So for anybody out there that went to West Liberty,

(31:10):
you know exactly what I'm talking about. But there that's
what it should be. That's what college should be. There
should be classes that just stick with you. And and
his class Media Law really resonated with me. So again,
I wasn't trying to earlier. You know, poo poo all
over West Liberty. There's wonderful things about West Liberty, but

(31:32):
you know, there are certain there are certain teachers, professors,
classes that that resonate with you. So did you ever
besides otis what you just talked about. Was there any
particular class.

Speaker 7 (31:46):
That I remember my freshman year and it was it
was like the intro to journalism class, and we had
a guest speaker and his name was Herb Morrison, Okay,
and you know who he is, you just might not
know his name. So he was living in cheat Lake
at the time he was probably this would have been
nineteen eighty five. He would have probably been in his

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eighties at least.

Speaker 6 (32:11):
When he visited.

Speaker 7 (32:11):
When he came and spoke to our class, he was
the guy that did the recording when the Hindenburg crashed.
So whenever you see the footage and oh the humanity, huh,
that was him, Oh wow. And the story that he
told was they've since have put his recording with the

(32:35):
film footage. There was no talkie film footage at that
point in time. But what he recorded it for radio,
and he said, like in the hotel room, they had
this piece of equipment that was like a dresser, and
that was the recording and it was on like a
reel to reel and he just told you how far
things have come. And but just you're sitting there listening

(32:59):
to the guy that had like an iconic broadcast of
the Hindenburg catching fire and everything else, and you're I mean,
for me, it was like I'm sitting there and I'm
witnessing history, and then I think he passed away not
long after that.

Speaker 6 (33:17):
So what's kind of funny. There's there's always a voice
to major incidents that happened, and like for me my generation,
like nine to eleven, the cast of the Today Show.
I was watching that. How how media voices are tied
to moments in history?

Speaker 7 (33:35):
This was one person. Yeah, it's just like I can't
and I can't think who did it. But I mean
it's just like in sports, it's whoever called Bobby Thompson's
home run, the offer Ralph Branketts the shot her around
the world, And you know, so lots of different things
Vince Gully or Joe Buck calling Kirk Gibson's home run
in the World Series. I mean, there's there's just there's
a lot of, like like you said, iconic voices that

(33:56):
go with a event in history.

Speaker 3 (33:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (34:00):
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Speaker 2 (34:31):
News Radio eleven seventy. It's the blue Daddy experience. Hey,
it's eight six, let's get this hour rolling. So obviously,
the big news of the last forty eight hours is
the Gaza ceasfire plan authored by President Trump. But for
a lot of people out there, they say, now comes
the hard part. Now comes the part where everybody's got
to do what they've agreed to do, and that includes

(34:53):
a terrorist organization who has never done what they have
agreed to do. Andrew Boston is an expert on the
Middle East, author of the Legacy of Jihad in the
Legacy of Islamic Anti Semitism.

Speaker 3 (35:05):
Andrew, thanks for coming on here.

Speaker 2 (35:07):
First of all, give me your your view on this
piece plan and do you think it'll stick.

Speaker 4 (35:17):
Well, I must say I'm I'm happy. I'm related for
the Israeli people, particularly the families of the of the
remaining hostages and and even the deceased hossages who are
getting the remains. I mean, that is a that is
a a wrenching issue in Israel and and I hope
this gives them, you know, some peace. And it does

(35:41):
appear as if certainly all the life hostages have been returned.
I guess there's still some haggling over the remains, but
so so to me, that's that's the main accomplishment of
this deal. Frankly, I'm I'm dubious about everything else in
regarding the deal. I you know, step number one that's

(36:03):
going to be major hurdle. Is this provision that calls
for disarming Hamas. Is that actually going to happen. You
see the partners, the alleged partners in peace, you see
Egypt and Turkey, and of course Kutter I don't trust
any of those countries. They've all been fomenting jihadism in

(36:25):
the region and beyond the region, and certainly in the
case of Katary for many years now. We discovered when
the Israelis went into Raffa for example, that you know,
despite the peace with Egypt, and it's been a cold piece,
but it's been a piece since nineteen seventy nine. There
was a massive tunnel network going into into Rafa, which

(36:47):
clearly helped supply Hamas, and that was you know, under
Egyptian watch and obviously they gave you know, they gave
their consent to that. So I'm very I'm very dubious.
You know, there was an interesting video of children celebrating
with with adults leading them on Pealestinine children and they

(37:09):
were screaming Hudna, Hudna, hudna, and I'm like, yeah, well,
that's that's really what it is. I mean, a hudna
is is a is a cease fire basically. And it
goes back to this tradition of Muhammad where he was
he strikes an armistice with this tribe to karage, this

(37:30):
pagan tribe because they were stronger than him. Uh. And
it became a principal and when and when the Muslims
were stronger under Muhammad, they unilaterally broke the treaty and
attacked and ultimately vanquished the karash and and uh. This
has become a principle of Islamic law that you you
you are obligated to bid for a truce only only

(37:54):
when you're weaker, uh. And that and that you're obligated
to break it unilaterally when you when you are or
you perceive yourself to be stronger.

Speaker 3 (38:02):
Okay, so let me stop her there.

Speaker 2 (38:04):
So based on that, this then would just be Hamas regrouping,
because you have to think the only reason they would
agree to this, This is a group who wants to
wipe Israel off the face of the earth. So they're
not going to agree to anything unless they've got nowhere
to go. They've been depleted, you know, I'm sure the

(38:25):
Masade has killed most of their high ranking individuals. Do
you think this is just simply in agreement by them,
by them to buy some time and regroup.

Speaker 4 (38:36):
I mean, history would tell you that that's all I
can say. Whether they've been so decimated by this war,
of this this awful war for the last two years,
that even if that's their fervent desire, they'll be incapable.

Speaker 3 (38:51):
Of doing it.

Speaker 4 (38:52):
But again, what also makes me leary is our reliance
upon particularly cuts are As as supposed supposedly some sort
of honest broker, when when we know that they were
They've been funding Hamas lavishly for for for a long time,
harboring some of its leadership in Doha, and you know,

(39:14):
the the the the religious incitement that gets preached by
by in in cuts are through the mosques and and
through Al Jazeera. Uh is just it's just horrific. It's
it's it's certainly anti Semitic and pro gy hot and
it's also anti American. And I'm I'm very disappointed that,
you know, we haven't changed course. You know, it reminds

(39:38):
me eerily of of all the years of coddling the Saudi's,
you know, for their oil, et cetera, for their alleged
you know, for their anti communism at different phases, and
and then we got nine to eleven. You know. So
I think Kutzer has a tremendous uh sphere of influence
in the United States, both in in politics and education.

(39:59):
And I think we're heading where, if anything, it seems
like we're intensifying the nature of the relationship. And I
think that's uh. I think that's a really dangerous precedent.
And if that's a byproduct of this agreement, and it
appears to be, I'm very I'm very uh disturbed by that.

Speaker 3 (40:17):
I agree with you.

Speaker 2 (40:18):
And again we're talking Andrew Boston, expert on the Middle East,
author of the Legacy of Jihad and the Legacy of
Islamic anti Semitism. Andrew, last question I have for you
are you surprised by the support, the free Palestine support
and the anti Israeli sentiment within our own government?

Speaker 3 (40:38):
And what would you say to those individuals? Bad guy?

Speaker 4 (40:43):
Yeah, I'm not because it's it's these people that are
in the State Department or wherever else they are. Unfortunately,
they're they're a product of our educational system, which is
which has been so warped on this issue and the
whole you know, post colonial narrative. And I'm not the
least bit surprised. I mean that you're gonna get people

(41:05):
like this. They're they're they're they're being they're being trained
through the system, through our through our very deficient, warped
education system. And they're products of these schools, even so
called elite schools, and some of them are the worst actually,
And you know, I I just they're not being taught,
they're not being taught real history, they're not being taught

(41:27):
honestly about Islam. The teaching on Islam is terribly whitewashed.
And uh, you know, it's the it's the left's favorite
and probably the left only religion.

Speaker 3 (41:39):
It's certainly favorite religion.

Speaker 4 (41:41):
Uh, and it's it's just it's very predictable I just
want to point out one final thing is that you know,
what's what throughout the throughout the past couple of years,
the most one of the most strident voices pro Hamas,
strident voices has been this pinnacle of Suni Islamic religious education,
which is Alasar University in Cairo. It's the nearest that
you can get to a Vatican equivalent for Suni Islam,

(42:04):
which still represents about ninety percent of Muslims. They were
cheering on Hamas the day of the attack, calling it,
you know, brave resistance. They less than two weeks later,
Alazar issued a fatwah which declared that all Israelis were
legitimate targets of jihad since they serve in the military.

Speaker 7 (42:21):
Blah blah blah.

Speaker 4 (42:23):
And they've been strident, you know, saying what's going on,
the retaliation by Israel is a genocide. They have been
I checked their web their Twitter account. They have been
silent on these accords. And one of the one of
the last things they posted about a week ago was

(42:43):
a celebration of the nineteen seventy three initial incursion by
the Egyptian army, which was in fact victorious and you know,
ultimately the Israelis repulsed them, and you know, basically re
re re reacquired the this whole Sini peninsula back to
the Suez Canal. But that's what they posted in the

(43:08):
midst of the negotiations, and since the negotiations came to
fruition that you know, at least for now, this silence
out of a Lazar university, to me, that is very revealing.
You know that they can't even acknowledge the cease fire.
And when they were screaming about this this phony, you know,
charge of genocide and the destruction. Okay, so now there's

(43:30):
a cease fire. So why aren't you happy? Why aren't
you celebrating it? You know, it just tells you. It
just tells you that the Jihadism, the Jew hatred. Trump's Aul.

Speaker 2 (43:41):
Andrew Boston, expert on the Middle East, cautiously optimistic at
this point, as am I Andrew always thankful, Thank.

Speaker 3 (43:49):
You, okay, take care all right, you too.

Speaker 2 (43:53):
He's also the author of the Legacy of Jihad in
the Legacy of Islamic Anti Semitism.

Speaker 6 (44:02):
Eight twenty one. Welcome Back the Blue Datty Experience, samon
Otis News Radio eleven seventy WWVA. It is time for
politics unleashed algia. Mccartal, Tony Edmund in the house.

Speaker 5 (44:13):
Good morning, good morning.

Speaker 6 (44:14):
Good morning, good morning, good morning. What a week we
have had. So I want I want to kick it
off there. I want to get kick off what we
saw on Monday, the peace agreement on on a level
of accomplishments from eight to a to do you will say,

(44:37):
where will this go down in history? Do you think
for this administration, not just President Trump, this administration because
he didn't do this on his own. What big of
an accomplishment is this for for this administration? Al Janal'll
throw this to you first.

Speaker 8 (44:53):
Well, it's huge. I think it's it's historical. I don't
think there has been a single president in history who
has been able to achieve quote I'm going to quote it.
At this point. Peace in the Middle East, especially between
the Israelis and the Palestinians. I mean that has just
been an ongoing, as we discussed last week, an ongoing
thousand year war so to speak, the ceasefire and the

(45:19):
return of the hostages there, and then followed up by
the peace agreement between the Middle Eastern countries Egypt, Saudi,
you know, Qatar, all those places. I think it's historical.
It will be one that will be documented in the
history books. Is what happened on what it was at
October thirteenth. Yeah, it was a thirteenth October thirteenth of

(45:44):
twenty twenty five. I think it is monumental. It's historical.
It was achieved through a lot of different avenues, including
you know, financial negotiations, as though Steve Whitcoff was extremely
important in that, Marco Rubio, Pete Haig Seth. I mean,

(46:07):
it was just a team effort, but definitelyly the idea
was spearheaded by Trump. So I think it'll be a
monumental thing in history, Tonny.

Speaker 5 (46:18):
We have to see how it holds Yeah, we need
to see how it holds up. History is going to
be it sky because you cannot get ahead of anything
in then at least you just can't.

Speaker 7 (46:25):
Well, not with Hamas No.

Speaker 6 (46:27):
I mean it's very precarious, it is right.

Speaker 5 (46:30):
All of these things are tentative. We've seen multiple ceasefires
and the release of hostages and some other really positive
things over the course of this since the original October
seventh where it all started. But we have to see
how it plays out. I just I hope it holds.
I hope for the people in Gaza, for the Israeli people,

(46:50):
for Palestinianese, anybody who's been involved in this and who's
been a collateral damage for lack of a better word.
I hope it holds. I hope they can re build.
I hope it stays the way it does. That's what
we need to see have happened, and then history is
going to be our guide. That's George W. Bush once said,
History will be the judge of all these things that
are going on right now. So I'm not going to

(47:11):
make any predictions about how it's going to be because
too much can happen and it can all unwind quickly.
And that's not me saying that's going to happen. It's
just based on this history.

Speaker 6 (47:21):
Well, and I don't think you're being I don't think
you're being a naysayer either. I think you're you know,
basing this upon past.

Speaker 5 (47:30):
Yeah, past is prologued, and so we have to be patient.
But I am. I'm hopeful for all of the people
whose lives have been destroyed throughout this process that this
holds well.

Speaker 6 (47:41):
I think one thing that was very telling from that
day was the picture I saw it later in the
day of of all of the leaders of the Middle East.
You know, we you know, kept hearing Israel, Hamas Palace,
and those were what you heard all the time. But
then when you factored in, like you said, Elgin, everybody
that was involved, and then you saw it there visually,

(48:04):
I think it was even more impactful. It was like, Okay,
it's not just these two entities, it's the region that
wants this to happen.

Speaker 8 (48:11):
And correct me if I'm wrong. But didn't those leaders
sign on to the peace agreement? I think it was
a contract, right, it was, it was a treaty.

Speaker 5 (48:21):
I'm not sure, but let's just stipulate for this conversation
that they did, I'll sign. It doesn't change my skepticism.
And that's not just being a hater. It's things get
so messy so quickly, and I just I hope it holds.

Speaker 8 (48:33):
They do, and I think it's Hamas. And the question
is because of the peace treaty that was presumptively signed,
as we said, so stipulated that all of those folks
will now go in and help I think the d
defunding the tariffs, the de escalation, the stay in your
place and stay in your lane. Iran, that whole issue

(48:57):
taking them out of the equation I think was instrumental
in allowing those other countries to participate, because those other
countries were not going to participate as long as Yiron
had a nuclear weapon and they were so close in range.
Once that was eliminated per the I forget what it
was called, Operation Hammer, I think it was once that

(49:18):
was eliminated, Once the nukes were eliminated from Iran, that
gave those other countries reason to or a little more
comfort in signing on because if they went against them before,
then obviously they were targeted.

Speaker 5 (49:36):
Yeah, and Iran's not going to stop its nuclear program
no matter how much damage was or wasn't done. They're
not going away either. And so even if it matters
in the short term, again, everyone has to stay hyper
vigilant to make sure that this can last and there.
I mean they've stated time and again and Iran this
we have some really nefarious goals. That's a whole different

(49:58):
conversation that we can have, but it is important that
ever again, everyone needs to remain vigilant. I'm happy that
it happened. I hope it sticks, right.

Speaker 6 (50:08):
I think there's so much that goes on behind the scenes.

Speaker 8 (50:10):
Oh absolutely, we don't know that. We don't know that.
We know the little tip of the iceberg. We have
no idea what the glacier is underneath.

Speaker 6 (50:19):
Well, and I think if you and we're up against
a break here. But I think if you listen to
you know, Marco Rubio, his brain when you hear an
interview with him, is so fast. That's one thing President
Trump said after the agreement. You know, he's going to
go down in history probably is one of the best
Secretary of States. But to see the amount of information

(50:41):
is in that man's brain that he rattles off. And
that's just like you said, the tip of the iceberg.
Imagine the conversations he has with world leaders.

Speaker 8 (50:49):
Oh yeah, I mean, like I said, it was, it
was a joint effort. Obviously, widkof went in and then
then you had Marco Rubio go in. Then I think
Jared Kushner was also instrumental in part of the negotiations
that allowed it to carry it over the line, so

(51:10):
to speak. And so we'll see in the next couple
of days. I mean, President Trump is indicated if you
do not disarm, we will disarm you. So you know,
they've ceased fire, but they still have their weapons. So
the question is what are they going to do. And
if they even start to hurt a hair on any
of those Palestinians head, the US is going to come

(51:30):
out and.

Speaker 6 (51:31):
We're going to get into the reactions here in the
United States from some very big names. We're going to
talk about that next. It's eight twenty eight. If you
want to get in on this conversation one in one
hundred and sixty two for eleven seventy you're listening to
Politics on Leash here on news Radio eleven seventy WWVA.

(51:54):
Welcome back. It's eight thirty six on your Wednesday. You're
listening to the Blue Daddy Experience, and of course we
are talking politics, Politics Unleashed with Elgin and Tony in
the House. I want to go back to you know,
we were talking about the peace agreement in the Middle East.
I think one of the repercussions of what we saw
Monday was the reactions by leaders of this country. I'm

(52:17):
not talking to the President, I'm talking you know, congress people, Senators,
this and that, And I wanted to point out a
couple of things, a couple of statements tweets that are
circulating out there, because I think it's very telling. Former
President Bill Clinton praised President Trump and his administration in
Qatar and other regional actors deserve credit for keeping everyone

(52:38):
engaged until the agreement was reached. Former President Joe Biden
I commend President Trump and his team for their work
to get a renewed ceasefire deal over the finish line.
And then there are others like Jasmine Crockett that says
raising hell at home and then pretending to be the
President of peace is diabolical. AOC Bernie Sanders have not
commented at all. So there are those that are putting

(53:01):
politics aside and acknowledging the credit that should be given
to this administration. There are others who can't even just
say the word president. Don't even say Trump, they can't
even say president. I think that's really telling of where
we are politically in this country right now. Tony any thoughts.

Speaker 5 (53:21):
On that, Well, I think people who are in those
positions of power who are negotiating these deals, I don't
know how much they care about what people at home
are saying. They shouldn't they should care more about what
happens with the people who have been negatively affected by
all of this, and that they're individuals. People can say
whatever they want, and sometimes they have a good point,
sometimes they don't. But from my perspective, if you're in

(53:42):
this job, who cares what other people have to say?
Do your job, accomplish something. If this is an accomplishment
that sticks, people should be proud of it. And if
there's going to be others who are going to say things,
maybe they're going to point something out that is actually
relevant that they should be dealing with here, address it here,
have that conversation here. But I think it's more important
to focus on making the stick and making it last

(54:03):
and not caring about what people have to say about it,
good or bad. Good on you know, President Biden, Preident
Clinton for saying that Preident Trump did something good and
his team did something good that should continue to be encouraged.
At the same time, they also shouldn't care what other
people are saying about it. One way or another, get
the job done, save lives, work to make things better
in that region, which is going to percolate throughout the world.

(54:26):
That's what I think people should be most concerned about
and should be most focused on.

Speaker 8 (54:31):
I think I would agree with those sentiments. But I
think the problem is is that the Trump derangement syndrome
with AOC and Crockett, it just resonates. One of the
things in law anyway, is to know what facts are
favorable to you and what facts are not favorable to you,

(54:53):
and to concede. I think that is probably the biggest
hardest thing for AOC at all, and to concede that
they were wrong. They have been asking for peace for
the Palestinians, cease fire, advocating that anti semitism on all
the campuses, and and raising kine. But yet when it happens,

(55:18):
there's no oh, thank you, or that was what we wanted,
So let's go forward. We've achieved that, Let's go forward,
because that would give credit to the administration in that regard.
I think even Hillary Clinton indicated in praise for the
administration and the accomplishment. There were there were a lot

(55:41):
of individuals who praised the accomplishment and recognize the the
difficulty in getting it achieved. You know, and again, whether
it holds or not is one thing. But you can't
hold something if it hasn't even started, and so what
has begun is quite an achievement that has not been
able to be achieved by anybody Biden, you know, Bush, anybody, Clinton, Obama, nobody,

(56:08):
you know, on back as far as history goes. So
this was a huge accomplishment. One of the things that
also happened within the Trump administration, not this this one,
but two years, two administrations ago, was recognizing Israel as
a state and moving the embassy. Yeah, the embassy there.

(56:29):
Now that you know a lot of presidents before him
said yeah, we're gonna do it. We're gonna do it.
We're gonna do it. Nobody ever did it. He did it.
And that was the first step. Uh there when recall
when Netanyahu came during the prior administration and was supposed
to and Biden had indicated that he was not going
to run, and Kamala was then the she didn't even

(56:51):
meet with him, she had other things to do. I mean,
so there's just it's recognizing. It's it's putting together the alliance,
putting together and respecting those that had not necessarily been
your ally. I think it's that's where I think Trump's
strengths are is recognizing Okay, we don't like Iran, but

(57:11):
you know what, if Iran wants to come sit down
talk to us, they're welcome. So it's opening the conversation,
being open to the dialogue that I think is important
with this administration. So what other people have said, I
think they need to concede where they have been wrong
and accept that, because again, there's not gonna be peace
amongst the bipart of the Democrats and the Republicans and

(57:34):
any effort to go forward on any bipartisan agreements without
a recognition of strengths and weakness of the other party.

Speaker 6 (57:42):
Okay, we're gonna we're gonna come back to our borders.
We're gonna change subjects here a little bit. Where of course,
on the beginning of week three, correct, yes, week three
of the government shut down three weeks ago, on this
day is when it started. So I wanted to kind
of get into the nitty gritty on that because at

(58:05):
this point in time, it is turned into a mud slinging,
if you will, between those you know, between Mike Johnson, Schumer, Jeffries,
the whole thing. They're all holding press conferences every day
at this point, and they're just repeating themselves. And one,
of course, the one thing holding everybody is the funding

(58:29):
for the illegals. But there's more to it that the
Democrats have put into it. And I've got a couple
of things here that have been pointed out. They're demanding
one point five trillion in new spending, and these are
what the Democrats have added in two hundred billion for
health care for illegal aliens, ending work requirements for able

(58:51):
bodied young men on Medicaid, cutting fifty billion from rural hospitals,
restoring five hundred million for media outlets, and it sending
five billion overseas for things like feminists organizing LGBTQ, plus
democracy grants and other odds and ends. So will we

(59:15):
see who's like? You know, I asked this last week,
who's going to compromise?

Speaker 8 (59:19):
First?

Speaker 6 (59:19):
I think for me, the big hang up there is
where's the benefits for the Americans in those adjustments? The
Democrats seem to want to add in, where is Americans
in that conversation besides our tax dollars that you want
to spend and send overseas.

Speaker 8 (59:37):
I don't know that there are any I think here's
my concern with the whole issue. Those are certainly things
that can be discussed in a budget conversation, But in
the meantime do a continuing resolution? They cutting your nose

(59:58):
off despite your face is not really the the way
to attack an issue. I question why the CR hasn't
been approved by those in the Senate because it's the
same CR that was approved under Biden. So this was
Biden's CR, and so why they are now opposing it is.

Speaker 6 (01:00:19):
Wasn't it approved in March of this year?

Speaker 8 (01:00:21):
Well it wasn't, but before that, it was the same
CR that Biden put in in place during his administration
in October whenever it was that he was president to
continue the funding for the government, and at that time
the Republicans did vote for it. And then the problem
is they're not sitting down to discuss the issues to
balance the budget. The Continuing Resolution is only supposed to

(01:00:44):
be a resolution, is it seven weeks? It's supposed to
be put into place for a short period of time
so that you know it continued. You can continue to
find while you're still negotiating. But you can't. I guess, well,
I guess you could being paid. So they should sit
down and negotiate while CR is not approved, while the

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government is shut down. I don't know why Congress cannot
sit down and meet and start to discuss.

Speaker 6 (01:01:10):
The budgets were meant to be a band aid, not
a face.

Speaker 5 (01:01:14):
Yeah, it' certainly supposed to be short one. Mike Johnson
should bring the House back into backing the session. I
don't care what you're doing while you're in session. Talk
about this stuff being session.

Speaker 3 (01:01:22):
Do your job.

Speaker 5 (01:01:22):
I don't think that there's money for legal immigrants in
those programs. I think it's a talking point, but I
also people should follow the nitty gritty about what the
money is being spent on. I also think that there's
some of the facts on the ground have changed. The
subsidies for people on the ACA are going to run
out and they need to be refunded. Now, I have
a personal stake in that. I can explain it more.
We come back from a break, but that kind of

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thing needs to happen. So I do think that that's
part of it. But they should sit down, get in
a room, sit down. I've said this before, I'm gonna
say it a million more times. Do your job.

Speaker 3 (01:01:53):
Counting on the table, do your job. You want a job,
You've got the job.

Speaker 5 (01:01:59):
Yeah, and you continue to be paid while other people,
some who are working air traffic controllers and not getting paid.

Speaker 8 (01:02:05):
Right, good point, good point.

Speaker 6 (01:02:07):
All right, we're gonna hear the background to that little
outburst when we get back. It's eight forty six. You're
listening to the Bloomdaddy Experienced samon Otis News Radio eleven
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of course politics on leash because it is Wednesday, Elgin
and Tony with us in studio. All right, we're gonna
go back to We got a comment on Facebook from
Randy Tony a little bit about the talking point comment.
He said, adding sub subsidies to cover illegal alien's health
coverage isn't a talking point. I believe Randy disagrees with

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your little statement there.

Speaker 5 (01:02:51):
Yeah, I don't think it's happening. No, you can show
me where that money is going and how it's being
spent in the line item, and I'll review it with
no problem. But I don't believe it.

Speaker 8 (01:03:00):
It's not happening. But that's what they want to put
in that that has been put into the bill. And
I think Mike Johnson has actually highlighted the and I
don't have it with me, but he is highlighted and
put on it the screen of the actual verbiage in
the proposed.

Speaker 6 (01:03:17):
Like article something, section blah blah blah.

Speaker 3 (01:03:20):
Yeah, I will read it.

Speaker 5 (01:03:21):
Yeah, if that is because I get new information, then
it will change the way I see the situation well.

Speaker 6 (01:03:28):
And I think one thing that's left out of the
conversation when it comes to healthcare coverage or medical coverage
for the illegals is the fact that, Okay, if they
can't buy insurance, that's one thing. But what they're doing
is they're using our eers as doctor's offices. Once they're
in there, they they have to take care of them.

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So it is our healthcare system is being used inappropriately
by illegal aliens in this country. And then that then
goes into Medicare, Medica and so on, and then it
costs the taxpayers.

Speaker 5 (01:04:02):
And I think that there's you can't put er staff
in a position to be not wanting to care for
people as they walk in the door.

Speaker 6 (01:04:09):
Oh, I absolutely, I agree with you.

Speaker 5 (01:04:10):
Yeah, And I also think that there needs to be
a major overhaul of the way we view healthcare. That's
a whole thing.

Speaker 8 (01:04:15):
And this, I mean, let's start with not charging twenty
dollars for a tail and all right, well yeah in
the hospital. I mean, you know, it is ridiculous the markup.
If you ever look through an itemized bill from a
hospital the amount of stuff then. And I think the
litigation toward litigation certainly drives that as well, because now
they want to eliminate everything. So instead of just the

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old time doctors coming in with their little satchel and
looking say okay, these are the things you have, and
therefore this is what you have, this is what's wrong
with you, and we're going to treat it. We have
to rule everything out. We have to do an X
ray where one is not necessary, we have to do
an EKG where one is not necessary. I'm coming in
for I don't know, a kidney stone and we're going
to do an EKG. Just see if your heart's okay.
I mean that happened to my husband. It was like

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an extra two thousand dollars on the It's like, we
are not here for that, stop right, and I don't
need it.

Speaker 5 (01:05:04):
I know that there when there's been conversations in the
past when people say, well we can't have you know,
we can't have universal health care because you don't want
government bureaucrasts making these decisions for you. It's a it's
a valid pointed to talk about. But right now, actuaries
are making these decisions for us that work for health
insurance companies as a way of making sure that they
keep a certain margin in their bottom line. And whatever

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our health needs and concerns are or second or third,
you know, the secondary or tertiary to what the decisions
are that they're making. So I do think that there
should be a full on, honest discussion about how we
approach it. And those are the kind of things that
are really really frustrating.

Speaker 8 (01:05:40):
I think it goes back to I mean, it's been
an issue for a very long time. I remember when
Hillary Clinton was running for Senate that one of her
big issues, and I think and when she was first
Lady to President Clinton that one of the things her
big platform was, we need to fix healthcare. I mean,
it's it, and it needs to be fixed on alles.

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You can't just fix it on what one area. And
you're right, insurance companies you pay all the money when
it comes to I need this particular thing, because whatever
I need, I need my hip replaced and so therefore,
before I do that, I need an MRI. Well, you
can't have an MRI until you do an x ray.
And then once you do the x ray, you have
to do physical therapy. And you know, it's like my

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hip is bad, it needs to be replaced. We do
not need to go through all this stuff and spend
all that money.

Speaker 6 (01:06:28):
I just you know. Well, but then that takes us
to the conversation of Okay, so you you mentioned Hillary
Clinton her platform. How many years ago was it that
she ran for Senate?

Speaker 8 (01:06:36):
Right, okybe three is when he was Clinton was president,
so it would have been after that because she ran
for Senate after he was no longer present.

Speaker 6 (01:06:45):
Okay, so we're questioning twenty twenty thirty years. It's been
thirty years. Nothing has been done about healthcare. It's getting worse.
It's getting worse. Then that takes us to the conversation
of back to are leaders are elected officials? What are
they doing?

Speaker 8 (01:07:04):
Well, then I think you got to that's where.

Speaker 6 (01:07:06):
The American people are frustrated.

Speaker 8 (01:07:08):
Right, and I think you have a your dress. Sorry,
big Pharma, because you know how many commercials do you
see for whatever some medicine? Keep them sick, don't go,
don't find the cure. It's horrible. It is horrible the
amount of money spent on advertising for pharmaceutical and then

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if you do this, then it causes that, and then
you got to address another You got another pill to
address the nausea, and then you got another pill to
do I mean, it's just it's down this rabbit hole.

Speaker 5 (01:07:37):
I used to I knew an individual once upon a time.
It is type one diabetes, and he used to say
that they have no incentive. Pharmaceutical companies have no incentive
to cure this because I spend so much money just
treating myself the actual disease and all the symptoms that
go with it. He's like, they have no incentive.

Speaker 6 (01:07:54):
Now, well that's the conspiracy theory out there about cancer, right,
you know, why find a cure for it when the
amount of money that is being made off of it, right.

Speaker 5 (01:08:05):
Yeah, they certainly don't have a real incentive to try
to do that. No, And yeah, it is a larger
There have been things done in healthcare in the past,
and some of them are good, not all of them,
but people have to actually roll their sleeves up and
dig in and do things to try and make it work.
And not everything that you do is going to be
wildly successful, but you got to do something because this

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is just it's embarrassing. We're going to have a fullsome
discussion that we.

Speaker 8 (01:08:34):
Can exactly exactly, but next week.

Speaker 6 (01:08:37):
Yes, we are out of time, unfortunately. Everybody. Have a
good Wednesday. Elgin Tony. Once again, thank you for your
brilliant insights.

Speaker 7 (01:08:46):
Thanks for having us.

Speaker 6 (01:08:48):
We'll talk to youmorrow, all right, bye,