The Bloomdaddy Experience with Otis & Sam November 5, 2025

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
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bloom Daddy Experience.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
It's seven oh six on news radio eleven seventy. A
nationally known researcher, keynote, speaker, and author just did a
little experiment to see just how biased we have become politically.
So she gave the same political statement to voters of
different parties to see if they're biased against the messenger.
Group one was shown the statements without any party attribution baseline.

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Group two was told the same statements were from the
Democratic Party. Group three was told the same statements were
from the Republican Party.

Speaker 3 (00:53):
What did she find?

Speaker 2 (00:54):
Lisa Miller joining me right now, who is a researcher
and author. So what did you find, Lisa.

Speaker 4 (01:01):
Well, thank you for that setup is not surprising, I
guess is that that messenger bias is real. And the
hypothesis I had is, you know, I grew up as
a political science major turned marketer, and so I started
thinking about The fact is, I think when you talk
to people there's more agreement, but then people bristle when

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they hear the news, and so I felt like the
messenger shouted louder than actually the content that we're actually
supposed to be listening to. It was crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
Okay, So modern politics, in other words, is functioning as
belonging first belief.

Speaker 5 (01:38):
Second.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
I often describe Lisa politics today as high school, like
You've got a lot of people out there who just
want to be with the cool kids, and they're willing
to throw their true beliefs to the side, or they're
not willing to disagree with that group because they're afraid
they'll be ostracized.

Speaker 3 (01:57):
Is that kind of what you found?

Speaker 4 (02:00):
Yes, all of the above, which it's really crazy if
you think about it. Our brains actually make decisions and
assumptions in seconds, nanoseconds. So that's why if I said, hey,
these ten statements are provided by the Democrat Party, and
you happen to be Democrat, you root for your home team.

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But those same statements I positioned as from Republicans, and
then I did the experiment the other way, and it's
us versus them. So in an instant, your brain says, ooh,
opposing team bad, bad bad. But I'll give you the
two high level like the statements that had the biggest gaps.
So if you're a Republican and you heard the statement

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college should be affordable for every family, the taxpayers shouldn't
be stuck paying off someone else's debt. So basically, when
Republicans they were served up, Hey, a Republican said that
it was sixty nine percent, Yeah, I agree, strongly agree.
But the same statement, if a Democrat said it, it
was forty four percent. Wow, So that was a twenty

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five point gap. The exact same statement. Depending on the
political party that it goes the other way. So if
you're a Democrat, the statement with the biggest gap was
wages should make steps should make sense based on where
people live and work. So forty nine percent. When it
served up as a Democrat, they said absolutely, strongly agree.

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But then the same statement teed up as Republican, it
dropped to thirty six percent. So that is a massive
That just says we're tuning out. So instead of focusing
on the content, we're focusing on our team, and we're not.
That's why we just that's why we are where we
are now granted this has been going on hundreds of years,

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but it's just amplified with social media and the media,
and we just it's so easier to be in our
own kind of as they say, echo chambers these days.
But it's dramatic.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
Talking to Lisa Miller, nationally known research your keynote speaker
and author, Yeah, so you've got this pac mentality and
to your point, what you found out is that when
somebody hears something from the opposite party, they're not willing
to put any thought into it. They're not willing to
sit back, analyze, dissect and make a rational decision. Soon

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as they know it comes from the other party, they've
already shut it off absolutely.

Speaker 4 (04:24):
And some statements more than others, I will say, within
the ten statements that I tested, there were some that
regardless of political affiligation, there was more alignment. So for instance, everybody,
including large corporation should pay their fair share. So when
democrats heard that message, whether it was Democrat or Republican,
it was a one point different No one should live

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in the poverty, you know again Republican Democrat one point different.
So there were some statements where we can then we
can find common ground, but they're few and far between.
That's the problem.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
Is there any breaking away from this, because this is
the biggest problem in politics. Everybody wants that pack mentality.
Nobody wants to criticize their own party or even give
compliments to the other party because they're afraid of the
vitriol that make theme their way.

Speaker 4 (05:14):
Yes, and I do have data on that as well.
Is that even varies by political affiliation, which is to say,
I'm willing to listen to the other party or I'm not,
And that even varies. But what I would suggest to everybody,
and I know this might sound crazy, but you know
I measure joy in the middle of a global pandemic.
So I ask crazy questions. But that's my job. I

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ask questions for a living. But if you actually just
in your own day to day lives, all your listeners,
if you are, I encourage people to listen to it.
You know, different media, you know, different stations to get
different points of view, read different things, but actually look
at it first, like what is this content? And can
you take the label off? And if you take the

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label off off, how does it change how you receive
the information? And I think if people just try that
little experiment. Try it for a day, try it for
a week. I think we would just all of a
sudden awake to the fact, oh my gosh, you know,
we are totally just tuning out things that the other
team might actually we might have common ground.

Speaker 3 (06:20):
But until we can.

Speaker 4 (06:21):
Take the label off and really digest information like that,
it's not going to change.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
I don't know if that's possible, Lisa. I mean, because
everything is so divisive these days, and you've got the
media just feeding both parties what they want. You click
on Fox instantly, if you're a Republican, you become pissed
off because the headlines just ratchet up your blood pressure.

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You click on MSNBC or NBC and Trump's awful and
he's a Nazi and he's all this crap, and they
just feed this absolutezy well.

Speaker 4 (07:03):
And what it is, it goes further. So in the
middle of global pandemic, I decided to measure joy over fear,
and I had this hypothesis that when joy was greater
than fear, economic recovery would begin. But now we're not
scared of COVID and the virus. We're scared of each
other in politics, we're scared of the economy, and so
anytime you amplify fear you and that's the other team,

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the other party, it's fearful, and then it shuts down
our judgment. And so, like I said, I think that
the best. That's why I actually did this. I am
so passionate about getting this out there, because even if
you know a handful, you know, always takes a ripple
or a wave to create something. But we just have
to kind of wake up a little bit to say,

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maybe we don't have such different opinions on some of
these important issues.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
Yeah, just got it. We got to pay more attention
to the message, not the messenger. Lisa, thanks for jumping
on the show today.

Speaker 6 (07:58):
Good morning folks. Wednesday, Election Day is coming gone.

Speaker 3 (08:04):
Is there such a thing as a happy Wednesday?

Speaker 1 (08:07):
And why not?

Speaker 6 (08:08):
It's hump day. We made it halfway through the week.
Kind of wish more it was Thursday, but no, we're
still stuck on Wednesday. But yeah, it is. It is
post election. It is over, folks. We can all calm down,
or can we? Waking up to the news this morning
out of New York City. Yikes, congrats to you New

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York City. You made that bed are gonna have to
lay in that, but we'll talk about that of course
later on the show. Because it is Wednesday, so we're
gonna have Politics Unleashed that is coming up in the
eight o'clock hour, so we will get in and break
down all of that, of course, and also a couple
other races across the country and what it signaled yesterday.

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You know, what do these results signal to both parties?
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quite giving today. Otis quite giving.

Speaker 3 (10:26):
Sure we are.

Speaker 6 (10:29):
You know what he told me this morning, folks, He's.

Speaker 3 (10:32):
Going to be Now I'm trying to think what I
told you.

Speaker 6 (10:35):
He's going to be making another batch of snickerdoodles, and
I'm going to start this morning off with a compliment.
Otis is a mad baker.

Speaker 3 (10:46):
I'm not a bad baker.

Speaker 6 (10:48):
No mad like as in good.

Speaker 3 (10:49):
No, no, no, I know, oh I thought, no, no,
I just every once in a while I just get
in the moods to I mean, I love snickerdoodles.

Speaker 6 (10:57):
No, I mean you're good at it, That's what that means.

Speaker 7 (10:59):
But I'm not.

Speaker 3 (11:00):
I don't really don't bake a lot. Okay, So I mean,
like I like, I like to cook, but I live alone,
so I hate to cook for.

Speaker 6 (11:07):
Myself because how much goes the way she don't want
to eat it all? Yeah, I don't.

Speaker 3 (11:10):
And you know I mean like when I I mean
I like to make my chili, and when I make
my chili, I like to make a lot of it
to where like I normally end up you know those
big like butter bowls, or like you go to Sam's
or not SAMs, maybe Walmart and you get those big
tubs of potato salad or macaroni salad or or like

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United Dairy Cotta cheese or something of that nature. That
the biggest, the biggest one. So like I'll fill those
up and I'll give four or five of those away
just because I can't eat it all.

Speaker 6 (11:45):
You know what's perfect for that for soup and chili
to containers the half gallons of Kerks ice cream. That
is like the absolute perfect storage container.

Speaker 3 (11:55):
But then I have to buy a half gallon of
Kerk's ice cream, which is not.

Speaker 6 (11:59):
A problem, as I say, you're forced to eat it.

Speaker 3 (12:01):
Then I'm forced to eat it, and then then I'll
be a two ton Tessie again. So I don't want
to be able to do that.

Speaker 6 (12:06):
Alway's got sugar free out there.

Speaker 3 (12:09):
It doesn't matter. But they do make because if I eat,
Because if I get a half gallon of Kirks ice cream,
it'll be going within two maybe three days.

Speaker 6 (12:18):
And listen, this is not a plug for Kirks. I'm
telling you.

Speaker 4 (12:21):
It is.

Speaker 6 (12:21):
Well, it's turned into it, but I'm telling you they're
half gallons. They are perfect for storing things when it
comes to food, especially this time of year, soup season,
They're absolutely perfect.

Speaker 3 (12:33):
I've got it. I've got a new mission though. I'm
working on making my own dog treats.

Speaker 6 (12:37):
Oh that's right, yes, because.

Speaker 3 (12:39):
I had some stale cheerios and instead of throwing them out,
I figured, well, I'll try to make some treats with these. Well,
the dogs love what I made. I meane, they're pumpkin,
peanut butter and cheerios. That's all it is.

Speaker 6 (12:53):
Well, a dog's palette is so sophisticated if you think
about what they.

Speaker 3 (12:57):
But they're like so what I'm baked them and they
kind of the consistency they fall apart a little bit.
So now I'm working on because my one dog has allergies,
so I have to be careful what I put in
limited ingredients, and most everybody's going to say, we'll put
an egg in there and that'll bind it, bind it.
He's allergic to egg. So I can't do that.

Speaker 8 (13:17):
It doesn't work.

Speaker 3 (13:18):
So I bought some I bought some new things. I
have some new ideas, and so I'm going to try
on my dog treats maybe later the night or tomorrow
the experiment, my experiment. Yeah, yeah, I have all kind
of people giving me suggestions.

Speaker 6 (13:33):
So basically this started off because if you're making snickerdoodles,
I am putting in my request for three three three Okay,
I was gonna say, sick.

Speaker 3 (13:45):
That means I might have to make an extra batch.

Speaker 6 (13:47):
I'm just asking for three because they are the bomb.
They were, They are so good.

Speaker 3 (13:52):
My best my best friend's mom, who I called my
mom by her first name.

Speaker 6 (13:57):
You call your mom by her first name.

Speaker 3 (13:59):
It started in calling because when we would go to
the WU tailgates, there were multiple moms there, so if
you yelled mom, nobody would turn their head, or they
would all turn their head.

Speaker 6 (14:10):
Okay, okay, So it.

Speaker 3 (14:12):
Got to a point where I just would start calling
my mom and dad by their first names because that
way at least they knew who I was talking to, Okay,
and it just kind of stuck. Anyway, the one of
my best friend's mom, she like she could bake. Now,
her dinners were little. I mean, I ate the dinners
they were. They were they were good, but like like

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if she did pork chops, they were normally dry, just
by thing. So anyway, she made great cookies. She was
number one at snickerdoodles, and her sweet tea was the best.
Like those are two things that I that I'm never
gonna get again, or her sweet tea and snickerdoodles. And

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she was the lady that I called mom because I
basically lived at their house for like five years. You know.
They you know, my best friend had three brothers, you know,
so that's there was always stuff to do there. So
that's why I loafed there.

Speaker 6 (15:10):
Well, now that I'm sufficiently hungry snickerdoodle for anything at
this point, now that we've talked about multiple types of food, yeah,
thank you for that one.

Speaker 3 (15:20):
So maybe I'll make chili and snickerdoodles.

Speaker 6 (15:24):
Interesting common.

Speaker 3 (15:26):
They don't go together by any means.

Speaker 6 (15:29):
Yeah, now I'm hungry. I'm trying to think if we
have anything laying around here.

Speaker 3 (15:33):
I know Mary that listens to our show. The running
joke is normally she listens in the morning while she's
getting ready, so that's right. So the running joke is
that we shower together because she listens while she's in
the shower. And Mary loves my chili. So maybe I
might have to make some chili just share with Mary
and her husband Dean.

Speaker 6 (15:56):
Okay, I'm working on a chili cookoff situation and I'm
looking for judges. Mm hmm, Okay, maybe I know somebody
that might be good at that.

Speaker 3 (16:04):
It's possibility.

Speaker 6 (16:05):
That's a possibility.

Speaker 3 (16:08):
I've already I judged one before. I didn't know what
the criteria like. We didn't really have a great criteria,
so we didn't really work it out that great, but
we still had winners.

Speaker 6 (16:19):
Isn't it funny when the weather starts to change, Like
how food becomes like that comfort.

Speaker 3 (16:27):
I've seen some great recipes on Facebook. Oh yeah, like
they give you the ingredients, but they don't tell you
how to make it.

Speaker 6 (16:32):
There's not like something you click on or a video.
Oh usually there's like a video or something.

Speaker 3 (16:37):
That takes you, but they'll give you like it's basically
like krock pot recipes for the week.

Speaker 6 (16:41):
Oh I love my crock pot. Oh my husband would
starve if I didn't have a crock pot. Oh excuse
me as I mentioned. We've got Gary Allen tickets. Your
last chance to win those? Of course that show.

Speaker 3 (16:53):
Only chance to win them.

Speaker 6 (16:54):
Yeah, you're only chance to win them. Are this the
show is this Saturday?

Speaker 3 (16:57):
Right?

Speaker 6 (16:58):
Yeah? They so we have those coming up, And of
course you've got politics on leash seven twenty eight. We're
gonna go to a quick break here on news Radio
eleven seventy WWVA.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
All right, I encountered a situation yesterday and I'm gonna
see if you feel me on this one that left
me perplexed, angry, and just kind of dumbfounded at my
own stupidity.

Speaker 7 (17:23):
I'll be quite honest with you.

Speaker 2 (17:25):
I'm at a gas station locally, not gonna say where,
and I realize, as I'm filling up with gas.

Speaker 7 (17:32):
My right rear tire needs some air.

Speaker 2 (17:35):
So I take a look, and I had not been
at this gas station very many times in my life.
I take a look and I see an air machine
over by the corner. So after I get done pumping
the gas in, I drive over to the air machine.
I get out and I look and I see it
takes a credit card or quarters.

Speaker 5 (17:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (17:50):
I can't believe we have to pay for air, But
in this day and age, everybody wants something you can't
get even air for free. I know certain places you
can sheets is one of them. But it wasn't a sheets.
So anyway, I'm there. I'm thinking, Okay, a couple quarters,
no big deal, air up my tire.

Speaker 7 (18:08):
I'm on my way. I always keep a cup in
the vehicle for loose change. I go dig out four quarters.
Put the first two.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
Quarters in, expecting to hear some noise because I only
need to air up one tire, so only need you know,
a minute even maybe not even that. Put the two
quarters in. Don't hear anything. Put two more quarters in.
Don't hear anything. Look at it again, because I looked
at it initially. It did not tell me how much
it costs, so I'm just assuming it's fifty cents a

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dollar at the most. Put another quarter in. Nothing, I'm
not a dollar twenty five. It does not say broken
on it. There's no tape wrapped around it.

Speaker 7 (18:48):
Nothing. This is where I become an idiot.

Speaker 2 (18:50):
I continue to put quarters in instead of walking in
and saying, hey, what's going on with your air pump
out there? Nope, I keep putting quarters in. I get
to two dollars. It has not made a sound. So
at this point I walk into the gas station. I
look at the lady and I said, ma'am, there's something
wrong with your air pump. And she goes, well, how
much did you put in? I said, I'm at two dollars.

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She goes, oh, it's three.

Speaker 7 (19:15):
What. I couldn't have been more stunned.

Speaker 2 (19:21):
If a albino unicorn walked by me inside that gas station.

Speaker 7 (19:26):
I said, you've got to be kidding me.

Speaker 2 (19:29):
Three dollars for air, for air, water, vapor, carbon dioxide air.
You've got to be kidding me. She said, Honey, it's
not our pump. Another company puts them on our property.
There's nothing I can do. I said, okay, Well, how
do I get the two dollars that I put in?
Their back got to call the number on the side

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of it. So I donated two dollars three dollars for air,
and I'm going to say it again. I know there's
gas stations where the air is free, but I wasn't
at one at the time, and I don't care if
I've got to put in a dollar, even a dollar
fifty for air, even though I think it's ridiculous. I
was in a hurry. There's an air pump there. I

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thought I would take advantage of it. Three fricking dollars
for air. I left just shaking my head. I mean,
let's go back in time a little bit. Things that
make me go, What when I was in high school, Hell,
when I was in college, Heck when I graduated from college.

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If you'd have told me I'd be paying for water,
I'd have told you you were crazy. If you'd have
told me that I'd be buying bottled water and drinking
more bottled water than i'd do water out of the faucet,
I'd have said.

Speaker 7 (20:46):
You're crazy. I mean, who's going to pay for water
when you can get it anywhere? But yet here we are.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
And if you would have told me even five years
ago that somebody would charge three dollars for air, I'd
have told you you're insane. That is criminal, that is disgusting,
that is ridiculous. And yes, I fully embrace the fact
that I'm an absolute idiot to continue to put quarters

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in there. But you know, I was almost like in
a trance. I almost it was almost like an out
of body experience. I just kept expecting that quarter to
go in and hear the air pump kick on. Nope,
three dollars, otis sam, I'm gonna save you. At the time,
I already accepted the fact that I'm an idiot for

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continuing to put quarters in up to two dollars, but seriously,
three dollars for air.

Speaker 7 (21:40):
You gotta be kidding me.

Speaker 3 (21:42):
I'm gonna say this, Okay. There's normally a little sticker
on the thing that tells you how much it is,
like when you go to the car wash, or if
you if you do the vacuum, it has a little
thing there it says one dollar or two dollars or whatever.
And then there's if you go to the car wash
and you drop the quarters in, it tell you three
fifty to start, twenty five cents for every additional minute

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or whatever. It is. Like, there wasn't a sticker on
this thing that told him it was three bucks, and
he's he's actually lucky that he got one that took quarters,
because most of them don't even take quarters anymore. They
take credit cards.

Speaker 6 (22:16):
What's more disturbing is that it's air for three dollars.

Speaker 3 (22:20):
Well, I understand that, but that's the day and age
we live in there. Because you do not have full
service gas stations, you.

Speaker 6 (22:25):
Charge for everything. I know, I know there was this
happened to me about six months ago. I went somewhere
I needed air in my tire. I got the alert
that it was low. I stopped at one place it
was a buck fifty and I'm like, they want you
to pay. That used to be that used to be
just a complimentary feature that gas stations offer.

Speaker 3 (22:48):
But you know where they are. They're at the convenience
stores that you know. Where you go in, you pull
in its self serve and it's not a service station.
It's a gas station that has a convenience store. So
you see what I'm saying. It's kind of like it's
kind of like your sheets or your bell stores or
your cfms or whatever they are. They are they put

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and it's normally an outside company that brings them in, okay.

Speaker 6 (23:13):
Brings in the air thing.

Speaker 3 (23:14):
Yeah, it's not it's normally not the them themselves right again,
it's air, it's airs paying for that machine, and it's.

Speaker 6 (23:23):
Self serve, so I'm doing the work. It goes back
to same thing with grocery stores. Everything is now self served.
I'm the clerk, I'm packing the groceries. Same thing with
the air. I'm pumping the air, I'm pumping the gas.
I'm doing all the work as the customer.

Speaker 3 (23:40):
So here's what I do.

Speaker 7 (23:42):
I know it's annoying.

Speaker 3 (23:43):
I know where there's a gas station that if I
ever need air in my tires, that's where I'm going.
I mean, I know that I found that for a fact,
and you know you probably should map them out because
let's say, you know, obviously I live in Wheeling, but
if I'm in Saying Clairesville, I should have someplace in
Saint Clairsville that if I need air, I know where

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I can go to get it for free. Or if
I'm in Belair, or if I'm in Steubenville or wherever.
You need to know where those are so that if
you ever that way, you don't have to pay for it.
There's I mean, I get my gas and most of
the time I get my gas at this one station,
so I don't feel bad using their air pump.

Speaker 6 (24:21):
So well it could. I mean again, like I said,
it goes back to caring for the customer. That doesn't
exist anymore. It doesn't, it doesn't exist anymore. There are
a few around here that I make it a point
that that's where I get my gas, That's where I
do my grocery shopping, because they're locally owned, they know you,

(24:45):
they're your friends and neighbors. I even if I'm paying
ten cents more or whatever, I would rather go shop there.
Support local, have better customer service, don't feel like I'm
actually doing the work, and yet I'm still paying top
price on things.

Speaker 3 (25:03):
Well, good luck, good luck. Go in someplace where there's
a full service gas station anymore. And if you do
use full service, they bet they really up charge you.

Speaker 6 (25:13):
Do you think if somebody opened one it would do well.

Speaker 3 (25:17):
Like like an old time, like old time, They come out,
they pump your gas, they clean your window, check your royal,
your fluids and stuff like that. No, I don't know,
because you because to pay for that person. You're like,
let's just say for argument's sake, that gas is three
dollars a gallon, just a flat three dollars for full service,

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they're gonna have to charge three fifty a gallon.

Speaker 6 (25:44):
Don't you think though, that we are hungry for that nostalgia?

Speaker 3 (25:51):
I think you. I think you would have a handful
of people that would be interested, But anybody under the
age of fifty would probably not even know what you're
talking about.

Speaker 6 (26:03):
I'm sorry, I just got a text. I cannot read
it on air. I'll tell you when we go to
a break. Oh it is seven forty five. I'm gonna
remind you once again. We're gonna have Gary Allen. That is. Oh,
let's do it now. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Sorry, one
eight hundred sixty two for eleven seventy. The text threw

(26:23):
me off, Shane, I'm calling you out, seven forty five.
Let's do it. One eight hundred sixty two for eleven seventy.
What do you want to do?

Speaker 3 (26:31):
Let's do Caller number eleven.

Speaker 6 (26:33):
Caller number eleven one eight hundred sixty two, four eleven seventy.
Gary Allen here at the Capitol this Saturday. A pair
of tickets is waiting for you again. Seven forty five.
You're listening to the Bloo Daddy Experience. We get back.
We're gonna go into a couple of the local election
results and hit on those here on news Radio eleven

(26:53):
seventy WWVA. Oh, welcome back seven point fifty one. Congrats
to Jeff, our first winner of the morning for Gary
Allen tickets. We're gonna have another chance here a little
bit later in the show, and then of course we've

(27:14):
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So get your registrations in sam at iHeartMedia dot com
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Speaker 3 (27:28):
You know you were we Jeff is from West Alexander,
by the way, Okay, I want to put that out there,
so thank you for listening in Western Pa. Yeah, you
were begging for some of my snickerdoodles earlier.

Speaker 6 (27:40):
I was.

Speaker 3 (27:41):
Did you see that Wendy's is getting into the snickerdoodle
for a No, they're celebrating the holidays with two new
limited time desserts. They are doing the Snickerdoodle Cookie Frosty
Fusion and the snicker Doodle Frosty Swirl. So it's a
seasonal treat. It blends the cinnamon sugar taste of the

(28:03):
classic snicker Doodle cookie with either a chocolate or a
vanilla frosty that doesn't seem like it would be good
in chocolate, like snicker doodle and chocolate doesn't go together.

Speaker 6 (28:13):
Now because of the ciniment.

Speaker 3 (28:14):
Now customers can enjoy the frosty swirl, whether cookie flavored sauce,
or add the crunchy snicker doodle cookie pieces. So Wendy's
if you're a Snickerdoodle fan, just throwing it out there.

Speaker 6 (28:26):
I'm still hungry, man, still hungry. A couple of quick
things politically that happened yesterday before we get into the
national topics of course coming up, we have politics unleashed. Well, folks,
it is official. Richland Township trustee has been determined. We

(28:49):
can put this to bed. Rick Ferrell and Jim Jim
Donoble have been re elected as Richland Township Trustees.

Speaker 3 (29:00):
Two guys that came in here, yes and shared their stories.

Speaker 6 (29:04):
The white Elephant, the dead horse can all be put
to bed.

Speaker 3 (29:10):
Yeah, but it won't be. No, no, you know some
it just be. It'll be again. It'll be beat to
death for whatever reason. It will be not here. It
won't be because we didn't really talk about it. To
begin with, because buildings need to be built at times.

Speaker 6 (29:25):
Buildings were built two years ago.

Speaker 3 (29:27):
Buildings were built twenty years ago. You know, I mean,
it is what it is.

Speaker 6 (29:33):
Let's just put it this way. It's done. It's over with.
There's the results. It has turned into. You know, the
drama is over. So there we have.

Speaker 3 (29:39):
We hope it is. It is on our side.

Speaker 6 (29:43):
It doesn't, I said, never mind, Yeah, we're not even
gonna get into that. It doesn't live in our brains.
Twenty four to seven Stuville mayor race, Ralph Patrilla dominated,
winning by eighty eight one eighty eight percent of the votes.
And then also, oh shoot, of course, my web page
updated Mike Mantel one mayor in Shady Side by little

(30:09):
more than four hundred votes, so that was a tighter
race than expected. And then also one of the more
controversial how.

Speaker 3 (30:16):
Many people vote in Shady Side. It's not that big
of a community, So like four hundred doesn't seem like
it would make it.

Speaker 6 (30:20):
That close, it says, defeated Nick Farelli by little more
than four hundred votes in a hotly contested Shady Side race.

Speaker 3 (30:29):
So maybe there's I just like to see how many
people voted.

Speaker 6 (30:31):
In Shady Side in total.

Speaker 3 (30:33):
Hyah, I mean that would that would tell you that.

Speaker 6 (30:35):
If it's a I bet it's larger than what you think,
probably because we all think of the loop, you know
what I mean, we all ye particular.

Speaker 3 (30:43):
But there's some there's some places up on the hill
they are considered Shady Side, but you aren't really in
this right village or whatever you want to call it.

Speaker 6 (30:50):
Yeah, so that probably increases the numbers.

Speaker 3 (30:52):
I'm not sure what Shady Side's classified as a village.

Speaker 6 (30:55):
It's a village, Okay, I believe. I believe. Yeah, it's
a village. It's a cute little village.

Speaker 8 (31:00):
Yeah it is.

Speaker 6 (31:01):
It's a cute little village. Can't talk today, yikes, cannot
talk today. So just a couple election results there for you.
There was something else I wanted to hit on, and
it just like like a bubble went floating away.

Speaker 3 (31:19):
That means you're like an airhead.

Speaker 6 (31:21):
Well you know sometimes it happens to us both, maybe
more myself than you.

Speaker 3 (31:32):
Politics un leash is already starting in the green room.
So that's why I had to shut the door.

Speaker 6 (31:35):
Oh, I wondered where you were rolling to. So I
heard a new term yesterday. Tell me if you know
what this is. Otis a dink. Speaking of airheads, it
comes to your mind when you hear dink.

Speaker 3 (31:51):
Like I've called people with dink before dink dank.

Speaker 6 (31:54):
Dunk wasn't like.

Speaker 3 (31:55):
Like dink means like it's just you know, kind of
like you're a dork or well, I mean, if you're
gonna use it that way. Now, a dink also is
like kind of like it's a volleyball shot, so like
you go up for the spike in instead of spiking it,
you just dink it in behind the front line.

Speaker 6 (32:11):
Well, no, there's another new reason terminology for this. It
stands for dual income, no kids, and married couples continue
to grow in that lifestyle. Lifestyle, so twelve percent of
married couples now have two incomes and no kids, and

(32:34):
it's growing more and more and more. In twenty thirteen,
it was only eight percent. Now we're up to twelve percent.
So now you can lovingly refer to me as a dink.

Speaker 3 (32:46):
I always have referred to as a dink.

Speaker 6 (32:51):
Because I fall under that term now two and then also, finally,
have you have you? I tried to pay cash the
other at.

Speaker 8 (33:02):
I went to dairy queen.

Speaker 6 (33:03):
I did not get ice cream though I was having
chicken tenders. They wouldn't give me the exact change.

Speaker 3 (33:11):
You know why they were out of pennies.

Speaker 6 (33:12):
The penny situation. Yeah, yeah, there's a.

Speaker 3 (33:15):
I went somewhere yesterday and got change. In one of
the places that I went to, they rounded up. Well,
you put your stuff under the thing and it scans
it and then you just pay. You know, I don't
like it, but anyway, so I put my money in
and I got my change, was like twenty nine cents
as far as the change part, and four brand new
pennies came out.

Speaker 6 (33:33):
Oh really?

Speaker 3 (33:34):
And then I got into my mind, I'm thinking, do
I need to save these? Like are these now collectors' items? Oh?

Speaker 6 (33:40):
God, that's the way your brain works, though, Anything.

Speaker 3 (33:43):
That he's going to be worth anything down the road.

Speaker 6 (33:46):
Yeah, anything that you think is collectible. The Treasury Department
haulted penny production back in May, and the US Mint
cranked out its last batch of pennies in August. A
growing number of retailers, including Kroger and Home Depot, are
reporting issues of penny shortages. The American Banking Association says
about two hundred and fifty billion pennies are still in circulation,

(34:09):
so they're still out there for but.

Speaker 3 (34:11):
People are starting to put them away, so you're not
going to see them.

Speaker 6 (34:13):
Yep, yep. All right. Coming up, we've got Politics Unleashed.
As Otis said, they are already in the house. We
have plenty to talk about, including voter ID. I posed
it last night. You're listening to The Bloomdaddy Experience, News
Radio eleven seventy WWVA.

Speaker 1 (34:31):
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Speaker 6 (34:53):
Eight oh six. Welcome back to Bloomdaddy Experience. Sam and Otis,
News Radio eleven seventy WWVA. Well it's Monday, Wednesday, folks,
morning after election day. Perfect timing for of course politics.
Let me try that again, Politics Unleashed joining me in studio,
of course, Elgin, mccardeal and Tony Edmund. Good morning, everybody,

(35:15):
Good morning, Good morning. So we woke up this morning
with a lot of answers or a lot of results,
a lot of questions, a lot of questions. So what
do you think was the mention the message sent last
night by voters? What do you think they what are
they saying? Well, I'll throw it to you since since

(35:36):
it was a blue wave, I'm with hear it to
you first.

Speaker 8 (35:39):
Yes, it was a blue wave in blue states, and
I think the message is trumped arrangement syndrome. That's my
personal opinion. But there's just so much in the message
of Mundami that is anti American, anti Semitic, Marxists, socialism.

(36:01):
I don't know where he gets the money to give
out his Sandy Claus presence. He made statements anti police.
So with all the issues that surround New York City,
it being the financial capital the world, really we shall

(36:22):
see how that all turns out for them. We shall
see whether the streets become more ridden with crime. We'll
see whether or not the taxes go higher, because obviously
you have to pay for these gifts that you're giving out.

(36:42):
I just he has spoken a lot of his policy.
I don't know. I note Tony will say that there's
city council members that hold him accountable, But I just
don't know. When the mayor sets the policy how that's
all going to work out, and so my, my, and
then Sam and and you know, it also goes to

(37:03):
the candidate. You have to have a strong candidate, you
know when some series is very qualified. She's a very
smart lady, but you have to carry it across the
goal line. You have to have that personal appeal, you
have to have all of those things that I think
she's a she's a good cabinet member. I don't know

(37:24):
that she's the you know face.

Speaker 6 (37:27):
She was very interesting to listen to that.

Speaker 8 (37:30):
Yeah, she very her story is great, she's very intelligent.
I think she would have done a great job. I
just don't think that that carries a day in a
state that is purplish.

Speaker 9 (37:41):
Yeah, it is purple. And I think a big issue
on all the minds of a lot of Virginia voters
in particular, is the carnage that Doge left behind really
without any research on how, you know, making government more
efficient is a very popular idea, but how you go
about doing it certainly matters. And took a hack job
in northern Virginia either, you know, a ton of people

(38:03):
work directly for the government, They work government adjacent jobs.
Or they run their businesses that rely on those who
get their money from their government or government adjacent jobs
and caused a huge problem there. And I think that
in Northern Virginia in particular, there was backlash for that
reason that people were unhappy. But as we discussed last week,
the pendulum tends to swing like this quite a bit.

(38:25):
It's easy to be mad at the people.

Speaker 5 (38:26):
Who were in charge at that time.

Speaker 9 (38:29):
Yeah, yeah, and to send a message that way. And
as far as New York goes, I said last week
and I say it again this week, campaigning is one thing,
governing is another. So yeah, he said a lot of things.
He'll be sworn in in early January. I believe that
is how it works.

Speaker 5 (38:41):
In New York.

Speaker 9 (38:43):
In the city in particular, he does have a fifty
one member city council he's got an answer to. And
you know, campaigning, compared to governing, campaigning is easy, especially
if you're someone who has a certain level of attention
seeking well, I would say pr abilities and a bit
of charisma and money helps. Sue, We've talked about that

(39:04):
quite a bit. But I think that you have to
watch how it plays out when he's actually there to govern.

Speaker 6 (39:10):
What do you think this signals for the midterms.

Speaker 9 (39:15):
I think a lot can happen between now and the midterms,
and I think whatever it turns on, we don't know
about it. In November twenty twenty five, it's going to happen,
and the midterm elections of twenty six absolutely not.

Speaker 8 (39:25):
I mean, there's politics can take one hundred and eighty
degree pendulum swing overnight. It just can. I think that's
what happened with Glenn Youngkin. You know, one little slip
by his opponent in support of whatever teachers was.

Speaker 5 (39:42):
Well, I don't recall.

Speaker 8 (39:44):
Opposing parents having a say in what their kids do
and learn in school. So that was his big thing
that switched the pendulum very late in the game. But
you know he carried across the goal line. Money money
is important as well. I'll be interested to see, since
Mondabi does have a significant amount of personal wealth, whether

(40:08):
he's willing to put in his own money or not
take a paycheck for purposes of making sure that the
people funding his ideas, because you know, I know last
week the big issue with Trump was the east wing
in the ballroom that was being built that was not
being built by taxpayer dollars and he you know, he

(40:30):
raised the money for that and put insane and he
Trump last administration. This is not taking a paycheck. So
you know, is Mondammy willing to do that? Doubt it.
I'm gonna know that it's probably much in his big
trust account.

Speaker 6 (40:45):
I'm going to bring up the point, the point that
you made yesterday. Will you throw that in here? Shoot,
I'm sorry, I'm putting you on the spot. The timing
of things.

Speaker 3 (40:54):
Oh yeah, so I heard on one of the other
talk shows that you know, it was a nation show
that you know that the Democrats were waiting for the
election before they to see what the results were. Before
they're going to see what happens with the government shutdown,
and also the Republicans are going to see what happens
because this may be who gives in more after this result.

Speaker 8 (41:17):
Yeah, well, yeah, that the.

Speaker 3 (41:19):
Shutdown is probably going to end in the next forty
eight hours or so.

Speaker 6 (41:22):
They're going to ride in basically on their white horse
and like we're ready to sign off. We're all good
to you know, we're going to reopen the government. We're signing,
we're the Democrats, We're going to make it right. Basically
is what he's saying now that they've won all these seats,
I don't think so. No, I can't see that happening.

Speaker 8 (41:43):
I think what that does to the midterms is it
puts Schumer, continues to put Schumer in a little bind
on what may be better for the country versus his
election in the midterms. You see what I'm saying, he
was beholden to the socialist group because of the swing

(42:06):
and a parent I don't know, what do you call
that a parent movement? Socialist movement. I don't think that
Schumer believes that. I really don't. I think there are
a lot of moderate demorates that Democrats that don't believe that.
The question is what are they going to do? I
think that puts them in a position of digging in.

(42:28):
I think, I would think because their position is that
they want ABC before they will vote to open the government.

Speaker 9 (42:37):
I mean, I think the specific issues mat are a lot.
I don't think this selection is going to have a
lot of impact on the government shutdown ending or not ending.
I think that the two sides are pretty dug in
on what it is they want.

Speaker 5 (42:47):
And I again would.

Speaker 9 (42:48):
Reiterate what I said last week about Senators Kin and
Paul getting into a room with cohorts, putting together a
deal and bringing it out to the public, which includes
on the you know, bring its other senators and putting
on the floor for debate and make it happen and
again reopen the house. That would be That would be nice.

Speaker 8 (43:07):
That would be nice.

Speaker 9 (43:08):
They were actually doing their job that they continue to
get paid for a while other government workers are not.

Speaker 5 (43:13):
Hello, air traffic controllers.

Speaker 8 (43:15):
Goods and coming up on a Thanksgiving break it's going
to be holiday.

Speaker 6 (43:20):
Yeah, yeah, but it is. I mean, it is an
interesting theory. I guess we'll call it that was brought up.
You know, are they have they been sitting on delaying
reopening the government until this election. I mean it it
is within the realm of oh, it's possibility.

Speaker 8 (43:38):
Absolutely, it is within the realm possibilities, I believe when
I see it.

Speaker 6 (43:42):
And I think one reason with what happened in New
York yesterday, I think people are waking up this morning
throughout the rest of the country worried and concerned. I mean,
we are throwing around the term socialism as if it's
like not a big deal. It's a huge it's a

(44:02):
huge deal, huge deal. We're gonna talk about that. In
the fact that, and we brought this up last week,
seventy percent of the younger voters came out yesterday and
voted for socialism in New York City. That's a huge statement.
We're gonna talk about that and a couple of the
things we get back. It's eight fifteen, right in the
middle of politics Unleashed on your Wednesday. Here on the

(44:24):
Bloomdaddy Experience. Sam and otis News Radio eleven seventy WWVA.
We've made it to eight twenty folks, the bloom Daddy Experience.
Samon otis here on news Radio eleven seventy wwv WWVA.

(44:46):
My god, I'm having issues this morning. Everything's running together,
reminding you we're gonna have another chance for you to
win this morning. We've got one last pair of tickets
to Gary Allen happening here this Saturday at the Capitol Theater,
So that is coming up here before the end of
the show. Of course, we are in the middle of
politics Unleashed Elgin Micardo of course in the house along

(45:07):
with Tony Edmund. So what did you ask me? We
went to break ask the google. Is that how you
say yes?

Speaker 8 (45:13):
I asked the Google.

Speaker 6 (45:14):
Asked the Google, She said, ask the Google. That just
sounds great.

Speaker 8 (45:21):
That's in our family, as the Google.

Speaker 6 (45:23):
The definition of socialism, because that's you know, a message
was sent last night at the polls in New York
City and abroad. So socialism is a political and economic
system characterized by collective or governmental ownership and administration of
the means of production, with the goal of creating a
more equitable distribution of wealth and resources. Unlike capitalism, where

(45:48):
private individuals own the means of production, socialism advocates for
social ownership, which can be public, community based, or work
or controlled. This can be achieved through various models, from
central economic planning by the state, to corporate to worker
cooperatives or market socialism. That's what we're talking about, folks,

(46:10):
controlled government control. I mean, let's say what it is.

Speaker 8 (46:14):
Right, just because you get and I think we also
said on the break, just because you get free things
doesn't mean that you're free. So freedom, your freedom to
do what you want will or company's freedom to do
what they want with their production of materials is not
necessarily going to be theirs. The government will control it.
And then when you get a government and that's how

(46:37):
dictatorship and things or start, because then the government controls
all the money and you don't have it, and you
get what they give you.

Speaker 6 (46:47):
Well, an Tony, that's what I wanted to ask you,
because you have mentioned many times, you know, Mondanie New
York City, the fifty one board that he has to
answer to. I get all of that, But I think
in the grand scheme of things, what people waking up
this morning outside of New York City is thinking about
and is worrying about, is this mentality, this push for

(47:10):
socialism to spread across the country, and that is what
is worrisome to people.

Speaker 5 (47:18):
I mentioned this last week.

Speaker 9 (47:19):
I think there are a lot of people who feel
like the kind of ideas are being espoused under that
umbrella are speaking to solving problems that they're having at home.
They not necessarily want to have a socialist's government, and
I guarantee they don't want that because if it gets
to that, we've seen over the years, especially in our
own hemisphere, that people just use that to take over.

Speaker 6 (47:40):
Well, I think they don't know what it actually is.

Speaker 9 (47:42):
Yeah, And I think their definitions of what socialism is
are very greatly in a way that's not particularly productive.
But I do think he's speaking to people's issues, and
so we'll have to see how these things play out.
But having you know, the government control these things is
not a good thing. We don't want unfettered capitalism either, right,
we have to have social we have to have social programs,

(48:04):
and we have to have guardrails to make sure everybody's
playing on the same playing field, playing by the same rules.
That's vitally important. That's why the Robert Barons of the
turn in the last century and the trust busting that
you had Teddy Roosevelt rise up the ranks to change
that because people were suffering while a small group of
people had all of the money to the point where

(48:25):
JP Morgan, who the bank is named after, had to
loan the government money so it could function, which is
that's that's not a good way to keep society going either.
So I hope that people pay attention to less that
they're saying that they want socialism. There are those who
are saying that and don't have any apologies for it,
but I think there are a lot of others, especially voters,
who are just saying, you guys, aren't talking to me

(48:46):
about the problems I'm having. He's at least addressing the
problems that I'm having, and let's see if we can
do something about it. Some of the things that he does,
they're going to like. Some of the things he does
are not going to work at all. It is going
to have to play out, but at least he's going
to be held to the fire. Now that because his
campaign any is one thing. Governing is a completely different name.

Speaker 6 (49:03):
But is he listening and delivering a message or is
he just saying free, free, free, free, free, and that
is what is appealing to people.

Speaker 8 (49:12):
Oh, I think he's listening, delivering a message and he's
giving them what they want to hear. I think, Tony,
you've talked about that in several of our exchanges here,
that that you know can't the campaigning is you have
to get down to where the grassroots, listen to what
they have to say and tell them what they want
to hear. And that's how you get elected. But unfortunately,

(49:35):
if you have that message but can't deliver, you're not
gonna be there very long and in the meantime, society
will suffer.

Speaker 6 (49:42):
Let me let me pose this to you. So on Facebook,
one of the things I asked last night, was you know,
on as election night wound down, do we need to
have a federal law that valid ID must be presented
to vote? Right now? It's a state by state basis.

(50:03):
Should it be a federal rule?

Speaker 8 (50:09):
I would say yes, but I don't think it can be.
And the reason why is states control their own elections.
So I don't know how a state control their own
can control their elections. So the federal government cannot tell
the state of West Virginia when they're going to have
their primary. The federal government can't tell the state of
West Virginia how to allocate its delegates in a presidential election,

(50:32):
so that is done by the state individually. So when
you have you don't have a uniform election set of rules.
I don't know that you can implement an ID federal ID.
I mean that's just I guess that's a legal analysis
of it. Do I think do? I think it's a

(50:55):
good idea.

Speaker 6 (50:56):
But how can we not require people of proof that
they're an American citizen to vote in our elections?

Speaker 8 (51:03):
Well, I think you can do that on a federal level.
So I think maybe you can say as to the
presidential election, as to the senatorial election. As to the
House of you know, the congressional elections, I think you
could probably do that, but elections are like, for example,
last night it was New Jersey, Virginia and the city
New York City. Okay, that was in West Virginia's goodnatorial election.

(51:25):
I think Ohio had some. So there were different things
on the ballot.

Speaker 5 (51:28):
A different from the Mississippi too.

Speaker 8 (51:30):
Yeah, yeah, so they vary, so, you know, but I
think on a broader scale, you can't travel. I mean,
now they're they're working making a federal ID or some
sort of it's not a passport, but it's the real ID.
So they made that to travel. I don't know if

(51:50):
we've had this discussion. You can't go to West Virginia
DMV and renew your license if you don't have your
first born with you, you know.

Speaker 9 (51:58):
And I think that there is one thing that should
be let's say that they did come up with that,
it needs to be a fair and balanced set of
circumstances in order to get that so that people who
like when my dad was born was given with his
mom's last name, and then he was born in the fifties,
and then at some point during his childhood, they changed
it to his stepfather's last name. Didn't do it legally,
so he went to get a passport and they gave
him a huge problem. It's like I've been using this

(52:18):
fifty years. Yeah, what's the issue? People born at home? Yeah,
don't get those birth certificates like you get if you're
born in the hospital. People born on farms, I mean,
you have to account for all of that. And those
who can't afford it. You have to put a thing
in there for that too, so that they can continue
to vote.

Speaker 6 (52:32):
Well, and we're not done yet. We got to jump
to a quick break. It's eight twenty eight. If you
want to get in on this conversation, call us one
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a federal voter ID rule? Should you have to present ID?
We want to hear from you. One eight hundred sixty
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I want to before we were kind of talking about
voter IDs everybody again. Of course in the studio we
have Elgie McCardell Tony Edmund for politics. Unleash saw this
yesterday and I thought this was a really good comparison.
All right, So the Dems of today versus the Dems
of yesterday, ask what your country can do for you?

(54:06):
But what ask not what your country can do for you,
but what you can do for your country of course,
JFK Democrat. Okay, the Democrats today free stuff? Is that
a valid comparison? Do you think I'm going to throw
this to you first, Tony.

Speaker 9 (54:23):
I don't think it speaks for everybody who as part
of the either Democratic Party or votes as a Democrat.
I don't think it was true in the nineteen sixties
either for everybody, you know, one way or another. I
think you've got to go down to the issues that
are affecting people directly. This like every election yesterday. People
who won in New York can't win in Virginia. People

(54:44):
in Virginia running the way they ran in Virginia can't
run the same way in New Jersey. I mean they
say all politics is local. Yesterday is a great example
of it, because it really is and what affects people directly.
So I don't think it speaks for everybody. I think
there are people who are much better at putting there
are words out there and getting attention for it. But
there are plenty of people who don't do that, who

(55:04):
did vote yesterday, who don't feel like that.

Speaker 6 (55:07):
Do you think it's a fair comparison.

Speaker 8 (55:09):
I I think it's more of a contrast. Okay, yeah,
you know what I mean, and it is it comes
down to kitchen table issues and what was going on
in the sixties, you know, with the Flower Children. And
I was not that I was one of them, because

(55:31):
I'm not that that old. But I was born in
the sixties.

Speaker 6 (55:36):
Somebody's rolling his eyes in there.

Speaker 8 (55:38):
Whatever. But kitchen table issues do make a difference. And
politics are local, and you're right, they couldn't run Certainly
somebody with what's her Abigail, what's her last.

Speaker 5 (55:52):
Name is Stenberger?

Speaker 3 (55:53):
Stand her?

Speaker 8 (55:55):
She couldn't run like that in West Virginia, you know,
I mean in the deep red states. The question is
for purposes of midterms, the deep red states are going
to stay deep red. The deep blue states are going
to stay deep blue. The question is what are the
people in the middle, the independence, the moderates, in which

(56:16):
way are they going to go? I think that's going
to be that's going to determine what happens in the midterms.
And again, politics just it swings overnight over issues that
in things calamities, calamities that happened, I mean nine to
one one. Did all those people in New York forget
what happened nine to eleven and the the you know,

(56:40):
and the preventing preventing you know, the terrorists from coming
in and all the immigrants who have come in who
haven't been vetted. I mean, there's just so many things
that spread and the tentacles go out and they're going
to affect and like you said, campaign, he's not governing,
so we'll see how it all shakes out. But I

(57:01):
think we've talked about that issue before the JFK, from
the nineteen sixties, sixties to now and where the Democrats
shifted from that, and I think it's from Clinton to Obama.
I think is when the it's not policies, which the change. Yeah,

(57:23):
the thought process, what do you call it.

Speaker 9 (57:27):
I don't know specifically what you're referring to, so I
don't want to put words in yours.

Speaker 8 (57:31):
Yeah, okay, Well, so what I'm saying is the Democrats
of the sixties with JFK and then you went to
Clinton ran as a moderate. I mean, he ran as
a moderate. He was, like we've said it before, that
was the last time the budget was balanced. That's where
he reached across the aisle and people actually worked together
to try to for the batterment of the country. And
I think that's where the moderates in the center people

(57:53):
came together and did what was best.

Speaker 5 (57:55):
And that's it.

Speaker 9 (57:55):
In time when the president was running. It was governor
of Arkansas, and the VP can it was a senator
from Tennessee.

Speaker 8 (58:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (58:02):
I think what you're referring to is the older generation
of Democrats do not realize the change in the party
and in the extreme views that are overtaking the party
as a whole. And I'm sure Tony you're going to
disagree with me on that, but the AOC's of the
world now, Mondahmie, the the hard push of the extreme

(58:26):
left to take over the moderates of the Democratic Party
is what you're getting at.

Speaker 8 (58:31):
Yeah, I think I think it's that shift. My belief
and observation would be that that shift political shift occurred
when Obama became president because then he was in eight years,
you know, then we had the hiccup with Trump, you
know what I mean, and then we went to Biden
where we're so I think if you look at just

(58:51):
the historical financial situation of the country, it when we
just started going deeper and deeper and deeper and deeper.
I mean, it didn't matter it was Bush, everybody, I
mean they all added to the debt, and every one
of them added to the debt. The question is how

(59:12):
do we get out of it. We certainly don't get
out of it by taxing everybody. We don't and just
continuing to spend and spend and spend. We have to
make cuts and stage well.

Speaker 9 (59:22):
I think that, And again it's not the sentiment that
does just the way they went about it, which I
thought was right right, just silly, But pointing to the
time as Bush was leaving office and Obama was coming in,
one of the big things that happened in that period
of time that did make people angry, and when they
started thinking about why is the government spending all this
money to bail out Wall Street Banks, to bail out

(59:45):
the automotive industry, And then I can't put food on
my table and they don't care about me. They're going
to spend all that money on them, the people who
put us in this position in the first place, Wall
Street Banks, not Detroit. But then I what do I
get out of this? And I think that that sentiment
is what starts people saying, you know, the government needs
to do more. I do a lot in my everyday.

Speaker 5 (01:00:07):
Life as it is. I work my butt off.

Speaker 9 (01:00:08):
Like we talked about snap benefits, there are people at
full time jobs who are still falling below the poverty level.
Where they're working full time, they shouldn't be below the
poverty level.

Speaker 5 (01:00:16):
I mean, that's an issue in and of itself too.

Speaker 6 (01:00:19):
But there's also the argument that the government has shipped
manufacturing overseas to save money, which then takes the jobs,
which then limits the amount of jobs here in our backyard,
and people can't put food on the table.

Speaker 8 (01:00:39):
That's one aspect of it for sure, right, I mean,
I think you know, and that's where the Trump's policy
of America first. And the other thing that we haven't
touched on is how the world has shrunk. So back
in the day, in the nineteen sixties, we certainly didn't
have internet, we didn't have call waiting, we didn't have

(01:01:00):
we had some of the technology has basically made the
world a smaller place. You know, you can get on
a FaceTime with somebody over in Africa. You can get
you know, over in Israel, so if you can't make
it there, you can still connect and you can still
have that conversation. So it has made the world smaller.

(01:01:21):
But yet it has made the world bigger in that
everybody knows what everybody else is doing. And the latest
thing with Nigeria and all those Christians being slaughtered over there,
and does that do we go in there? I mean,
there's just there's so many issues.

Speaker 6 (01:01:39):
It's also made our attention span shorter.

Speaker 8 (01:01:42):
Oh absolutely.

Speaker 6 (01:01:43):
I mean a prime example of that is yesterday Jay
Jones voted in and what was it, three or four
weeks ago we're talking about his text threatening to murder
Republicans and kids. I mean, so that's how quickly our
tension span is.

Speaker 8 (01:02:01):
Oh yeah, Nowadays peltics is a hot minute.

Speaker 6 (01:02:04):
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I want to wrap up Politics Unleashed with this so

(01:03:08):
recent CNN Paul earlier this week came out Trump approval
rating thirty seven percent. Then what happened last night? What
do you think? What do you think the American people
are saying to the current administration, Tony, They've.

Speaker 5 (01:03:25):
Got to change the way they're doing things.

Speaker 9 (01:03:27):
There's stuff that people are things that are happening are
affecting people directly in their own lives, and that's when
they start to really speak up about it. The things
that they don't like. I mean, you can go on
a long list of issues and it's not going to
matter what you say. You say twenty things, the first
five will means something to a large spot of people,
and the others they won't really care about. So I

(01:03:49):
think with sending a message to people saying we need
to stop doing things the way that we're doing them,
change course, on these things and do better. We don't
have time for a discussion about the individual things. I
think that they are, but I think that's the overarching
message is if you don't stop doing things the way
that you're doing them, we're going to keep going in
this direction. You know, the American people at large don't

(01:04:09):
care how things. They don't care how we get there,
and to some degree, they just want to get there.
And if you can get them there, then they're all for.
They don't care what the letter is next to your name.
If you can get them to where they need to
be and they feel comfortable, they feel safe, they feel
secure financially, emotionally, they have job security, all that stuff.

(01:04:29):
If you get them there, that's what they care about,
and they'll give you your vote every time. It's one
of the reasons that you know Governor Brisheer in Kentucky
a very red saty. He's a Democratic governor, but he's
very popular because he's talking to people about things they
care about and he says, I want to deliver this
for you, and now let's work together to make that happen.

Speaker 5 (01:04:45):
That matters a lot.

Speaker 8 (01:04:47):
Yeah, I think I think this is no secret. I
think President Trump is a polarizing figure. And I think
that if it was anybody but j Trump, two things,
what has been accomplished in a year would not have
been accomplished. And yet by the same time, what has

(01:05:09):
not been accomplished in a year wasn't accomplished.

Speaker 3 (01:05:12):
So I'm talking.

Speaker 8 (01:05:13):
About the shutdown. It's his polarizing personality that the Democrats,
the TDS, the whole thing that's going to stop. It's
his polarizing personality that revs up the base and has
satisfied so many things like closing the border, you know,
world peace. But if something needs to happen so that

(01:05:39):
both sides sit down and talk and do their job,
because I think that if you there's no question that
President Trump and his business background and his financial prowess,
his ability to negotiate and get things done, I think
would be for the betterment of the country. But it's
his personality that they can't get past.

Speaker 6 (01:06:00):
Can our political figures not get out of their own way?

Speaker 8 (01:06:03):
Yes, that's a good way to put it.

Speaker 6 (01:06:05):
I mean I've brought this up before. We sit every
day now through this shutdown, and we watch these two
men go back and forth every morning making their daily
statement about the shutdown. How they haven't run out of
things to talk about, I don't know. But they can't
get out of their own way to do that, as
Tony says, do their job that they were put there

(01:06:26):
to do to reopen the government. They can't get out
of their own way. But the same thing can be
said about the voter, the American citizen who cannot sit
down and have an open conversation with somebody on the
other side and listen to what one another have to say,
and that has gotten us to where we are.

Speaker 9 (01:06:49):
Needs to be more respect for each other in general.

Speaker 8 (01:06:51):
They need to take lessons from Tony and Elchin.

Speaker 6 (01:06:53):
Is that what it is?

Speaker 5 (01:06:55):
Through Welcome World, you can start.

Speaker 6 (01:06:58):
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Speaker 8 (01:07:01):
We should start a podcast, are you gal? No, it is.
I mean I think they can't get out of their
own way. And I think, as Tony said, people don't
care what you have to say. Just shut up and
get it done right. Yeah, you know enough enough. If
you would spend as much time talking to each other
as you do to the press, maybe you'd get something done.

Speaker 5 (01:07:23):
Yeah, it's true.

Speaker 9 (01:07:24):
And people have to stop being so concerned with just
getting re elected that doesn't help anybody.

Speaker 8 (01:07:29):
Well, and if you do your job, you'll get re elected.
I mean, it's really not that's difficult.

Speaker 5 (01:07:33):
It's really not.

Speaker 6 (01:07:35):
But we've talked about this before. Politics hold in these
offices were not to be a long term career, and
that's another problem that we have.

Speaker 8 (01:07:45):
Well, it is. And if you listen to some of
the statements we were talking about the comparison contrast to
the sixties, if you listen to Pelosi speaking about immigration
or Schumer speaking about shutdown, you will find that they
have made throughout their career history which are consistent with
the Republicans and vice versa.

Speaker 6 (01:08:07):
You have the statement of Hillary Clinton when she ran
against Trump saying about illegals. Right, if this isn't a
new concept that the Republicans didn't just come up with this,
they agreed with it fifteen years ago.

Speaker 8 (01:08:19):
Right, And if they would just realize that one another
has said those things, they do have common ground and
perhaps they could sit down.

Speaker 5 (01:08:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:08:25):
Well, on an immigration I wish Center Langford would renew
his bill from the last Congress and present it again
because I think it was really comprehensive and it would
have been a more permanent fix, you know, regardless if
you're the president, because.

Speaker 5 (01:08:38):
I more executive power. I don't like it.

Speaker 9 (01:08:42):
It makes me I don't care if it's a Democrat
who was in office and you know, wheeling executive power.
I don't like it at all. And I think it's
better for the country in general if we do things
through Congress and actually get it done. That bill in particular,
I really liked. I was on the show. I think
at the time that it was still pending. But that's
just one example of the kind of bipartisan agreement that

(01:09:04):
we can have to make things work. The infrastructure bills work.
That was bipartisan, and a lot of things have been
invested in communities to help people care for themselves. I
think that's for government investment needs to go. We can
have another discussion about that, but I think if you
invest in people to be able to take care of
themselves over time, it's going to make things a lot
better for everyone in society.

Speaker 8 (01:09:23):
Right, don't hand them the fish, teach them how to fish.

Speaker 6 (01:09:27):
There you go, that's your that's your go to line.

Speaker 8 (01:09:30):
I love that line.

Speaker 6 (01:09:31):
Well, folks, what will happen a week from now.

Speaker 5 (01:09:35):
That's going to be a totally different universe.

Speaker 3 (01:09:38):
It will Tony and I will be battling next Wednesday.

Speaker 7 (01:09:41):
It would be battling, yes, yes.

Speaker 6 (01:09:43):
Because I'm right.

Speaker 3 (01:09:44):
Well, it's also the WU Pit basketball game.

Speaker 6 (01:09:47):
So oh okay, all right, talk about opposite sides of
the aisle. That's uh yeah, you don't, all right, folks, Okay,
I'm gonna throw this at you.

Speaker 3 (01:10:00):
Tony.

Speaker 6 (01:10:01):
Give me a number one through twenty.

Speaker 5 (01:10:04):
Three, twenty one, twenty one.

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Speaker 7 (01:10:47):
We're done.

Speaker 6 (01:10:48):
We'll talk to you tomorrow