The Bloomdaddy Experience with Otis & Sam November 19, 2025

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
The bloom Daddy Experience. He's seven oh six on news
radio eleven seventy. All right, you got some news today,
the House overwhelmingly voting to release the Epstein Finals, and
you saw a major reversal by President Trump the other
day because he knew there was no way he was
stopping this. Let's bring on Rob Wallgate American Policy Roundtable.
You're surprised by that vote today, and are you more

(00:41):
surprised by the fact that Trump, probably for the first
time ever, not only got pushback, but had the reverse
course on this.

Speaker 3 (00:50):
Well, good afternoon. I think your reverse course. You saw
from the vote today that he knew he was going
to be standing in front of a title wave. And
if there's one thing Donald Trump really doesn't like the
on the losing side of anything, and he knew there
was nothing he can do about it. I think the
question now becomes is what will Senator Soon do? What
is the Senate going to do in regards to this,
Will they take it up? Will they vote on it?

(01:12):
Is that where he's going to put his.

Speaker 4 (01:16):
Weight.

Speaker 3 (01:17):
That's the questions yet to be seen. I think the
other questions he had to be seen is are there
others behind the scenes that we'll try and influence the Senate?
Maybe the fund those campaigns. I know we have an
Ohio billionaire whose name has been tied to Epstein, an
awful lot. Will folks try and have an influence to
keep some of this from coming out? I think the

(01:38):
Epstein list, the Epstein files, I think all of it
has been a giant distraction from many problems this country has.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
Well you could say that, and on the flip side,
Rob we all know that human trafficking is a major problem.
Well we all exploitation of young women is a major problem.
So while it's a distraction from other stuff, it's still
something that is very, very important, and it's something that
the MAGA crowd wanted, a lot of people wanted.

Speaker 5 (02:06):
So what's everybody scared of?

Speaker 2 (02:08):
Because you know, if there was something big on Trump
Biden would have released it without hesitation.

Speaker 5 (02:14):
So what's he worried about?

Speaker 2 (02:15):
Does he worried about just regular emails, text messages that
we you know that might make him look bad.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
Well, I think it's going to make a lot of
people look bad. And I think we've gone from the
mantra in this country of innocent until proven guilty of
If your name or anything's written, we know you're going
to be tried and convicted based on feelings and emotions
in the media, on social media, by people out there.
When there may be nothing there may be a giant

(02:44):
nothing burger on the things, but if your name is
there and associated in any way, shape or form, there's
going to be big time issues. Again, I'm not saying
not to release it. I'm just saying that we tend
to overreact on things like this before all the facts
are out for all the nations there, and people are
convicted in the in the realm of public opinion far

(03:05):
more often than they should be. We know that, we
know that will end up on page one A and
the retraction will be buried. So that that is a
concern I think I have as an American, not because
I'm concerned of anyone I know is going to be
on the list, but we overreact on emotion. We see
it each and every day in this country.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
For twenty seven to one was the vote yeah to
release these files.

Speaker 5 (03:29):
For twenty seven to one.

Speaker 3 (03:32):
Yeah, And again I'm fine with releasing them. I'm fine
with seeing what's out there. There's JFK stuff that people
want out there. Let's put it out there. But let's
put it out there. There's what is there thirty thousand pages.
I mean, there's tens of thousands of pages, things that
need to be read and dissected. I think people are
going to pull and grab and overreact to one or

(03:53):
two lines or two or three different names. I think
you got to dig deep to find out what's really
in there and listen. I am never for hiding the truth.
The truth always needs to be talked about. It needs
to be put out there. And as you said before,
human trafficking is a serious problem, and if that's what
was done and there are people that were involved in it,

(04:14):
then they should be held to account. I don't disagree
with that at all. And the President, I think he
got out of the way because I think he saw
that was a losing cause. When it comes to the House.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
Talking to Rob Allgate American Policy round Table, what about
this spat with Marjorie Taylor Green. Does this indicate that
more Republicans may start standing up to the president the
further he gets into his term, or does it indicate
any kind of cracks within the Republican Party.

Speaker 3 (04:41):
Well, I think there's going to be cracks with people
that are saying they're trying to stand on principle. We
saw what he said with Marjorie Taylor Green.

Speaker 4 (04:47):
We saw it.

Speaker 3 (04:48):
I Mean, I've never been a fan of the president,
some of the tweets, in the snarky remarks he makes.
I saw what he said to Thomas Massey over the weekend.
I mean, his wife passed away a year ago. He
got re married about a week ago, and the presidents
of all people is taking shots at someone else about marriage.
I mean, seriously, Yeah, that's where we're at. I mean,

(05:09):
you know, I'm just not a big fan of that.
Let's face it, Donald Trump has been listen, like him,
hate him, whatever you want to say. He's a bully.
He's going to be bully people that he doesn't agree with,
and that's what he did. He's trying to do with
Marjorie Taylor Green and others. And I think when you
look at his first term, and now you look at
his second term. Who is he still close to from

(05:32):
his first term in his second term that doesn't share
a last name with him, Who in the inner circle
was still in the inner circle. That's the question that
needs to be asked. And as he moves forward, the
question becomes is that a positive for jd vance if
he's the choice in twenty twenty eight or is it not.
Let's face it, we're going to find out in twenty
twenty six. There's a lot of Senate seats up, there's

(05:54):
a lot of House seats up, there's some gubernatorial races
people that are going to be paying attention to. So
I think while his term may be limited, he's got
to find a way to nite people, bring him together,
not push him away.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
I don't think there's any chance of him doing that,
and I don't think there's I don't think no. I'm
sure and there's there's no there's not a fiber in
him that I think even wants to do that. I mean,
you gotta want to do something in order to have
a chance of doing it.

Speaker 3 (06:27):
You do, you do, And it's like the old sports
adage the name on the front of the jersey means
a lot more than the name on the back of
the jersey. The question is, does he believe that in
he is he willing to put the country ahead of
his name? Is he willing to put the country ahead
as himself for the common good and allow someone else
to take a little credit, allow someone else to do
the right thing? That's the question.

Speaker 5 (06:48):
Are you Are you trying to force me to laugh
right now? Rob? Why there's not a chance.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
I mean, somebody else gets some, Craig, Come on, I
love a lot of the stuff this guy does, but
first and foremost it's about him, and then everything else
is just whatever happens well.

Speaker 3 (07:05):
And I think that's important to see. And when you
look at vote totals throughout the years when he's not
on the ballot, the question is, And there's a lot
of people that are passionate about this, and I know,
and I'm gonna get some mean text messages when we
hang up, saying I can't believe you took shots at
the president. I didn't take any shots at the president.
I'm just here calling balls and strikes, telling you how
I see it. And I'm gonna be interested. Do those

(07:29):
people who align themselves and strictly call themselves MAGA voters.
Do they show up in twenty twenty six? Do they
show up in twenty twenty eight? Because if history teaches
us anything, when you study the last couple elections, they
haven't showed up in certain states on certain races, especially
when it comes to ballot issues. So I'm interested to
see they surely didn't show up in twenty twenty five

(07:49):
in the state of Georgia. I'm interested to see will
they show up when they're needed to vote for someone
else whose last name isn't Donald, isn't Trump.

Speaker 5 (07:59):
It'll be interesting, Rob, Thanks for the time.

Speaker 3 (08:02):
Hey, appreciate you. Thanks good.

Speaker 6 (08:08):
Wednesday Morning, seven nineteen, The bloom Daddy Experience Otis and
Sam here on News Radio eleven seventy WWVA. There was
a lot covered in that first segment, but listen, we're
gonna hold off our thoughts on that because it is
a Wednesday, because coming up, we have politics Unleashed in
the eight o'clock hour with Elgin and Tony, So we're
gonna hit on a couple of the topics that bloom

(08:29):
Daddy discussed, but we're gonna so we're gonna keep our
thoughts on that until that segment here with Tony and Elgin.
With that being said, if you do have some political questions,
you have some political topics that you want us to
get into, of course you can go to our Facebook page,
throw it on there and I'll put pose it to

(08:50):
our two political analysts. Or of course you can call
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us and we will get that. Also. Otis we have

(09:11):
some goodies again today, don't we We do.

Speaker 7 (09:13):
We have a pair of tickets to see the Motown
Christmas here at the Capitol Theater on December thirteenth, and
also have a pair of tickets to see Chevy Chase
and Christmas Vacation. The screening of Christmas Vacation and then
the Q and A with Chevy Chase right after that
is coming up on December ninth. So we have a
pair of tickets to each of those.

Speaker 6 (09:32):
What would you ask him not to put you on
the spot they're gonna.

Speaker 3 (09:36):
Put you on.

Speaker 7 (09:37):
I would ask him how much of not so much
Christmas Vacation. I would have to ask a Fletch question.

Speaker 6 (09:42):
Oh, that's right, you're the flex Yeah.

Speaker 7 (09:44):
So I would ask, like how much of that, how
much was improvised, because like some of the things that
he came up with in some of the things that
were in Fletch, I don't know how anybody just writes that,
you know, like some of the names that it came
up with, like John kak co Toast and I mean, uh,

(10:04):
when when he steals the car and he's the kids
trying to steal the car, but Chevy Chase jumps in
and he says he's the air inspector or whatever, and
they're driving around and he just starts asking dumb questions
and I just wanted to know, like how much of
that was scripted and how much of it wasn't.

Speaker 6 (10:18):
Yeah, I would probably ask him. Through all of the
National Lampoon movies, was it hard to keep track of
who were the actors playing your kids.

Speaker 7 (10:29):
Because they changed? Yeah. One of them was Johnny.

Speaker 6 (10:33):
Galecki from Big Bang Theory.

Speaker 7 (10:35):
The other one was Anthony Michael Hall. Uh huh. I
can't remember the one girl's name, and that was in
Christmas Vacation. But she she she had a pretty good run.

Speaker 6 (10:46):
Oh you can see her face.

Speaker 7 (10:48):
Yeah, I mean I can't think something Lewis her last
name is Lewis.

Speaker 6 (10:52):
I was gonna say, yeah, Juliet Lewis Man, that's yes.

Speaker 7 (10:55):
And then yeah, I mean, I mean the constant is
his wife, Beverly D'Angelo. So but yeah, I mean.

Speaker 6 (11:02):
It's but they did flip flop it because the kids.

Speaker 7 (11:05):
I mean he grew up, yeah, exactly, so when Christmas
Vacation came out, Anthony Michael Hall would have probably been
in his mid to late twenties when Christmas Vacation came out.

Speaker 6 (11:15):
Oh yeah, he couldn't be a high school student.

Speaker 7 (11:17):
Yeah, well you know kind of could, but you know,
it just it's uh yeah, it's you know, sometimes that's
tough when you're in a movie to keep the same kid.
I mean, if like a kid like Macaulay Couchin, who
didn't really you know age doesn't doesn't look older than
much older, you know, he aged kind of slower, Yeah,

(11:41):
like a Ralph Maccio, you know, just that baby karate kid,
you know, I mean, hell, he was in his twenties
when he was supposed to be a high school kid.
He's in his twenties making a karate kid. He looked
like he was twelve.

Speaker 6 (11:53):
You know, I wonder if Chase. I wonder if Chevy Chase,
like I know him, No, I wonder, Yeah, I wonder
if he watches it every year.

Speaker 7 (12:03):
I doubt it.

Speaker 4 (12:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (12:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (12:06):
Actors look at stuff completely different than we as the
public do. It's kind of like, you know, people say
to us, you know, being on the radio, is this
and that, and it's like, well, yeah, okay, well we
take it for granted.

Speaker 7 (12:17):
Well, just like last year when we interviewed Peter Billingsley
Ralphie from a Christmas story, you know, he kind of said,
you know, for a long time he kind of just
really didn't pay.

Speaker 6 (12:29):
Attention, disassociated from it.

Speaker 7 (12:31):
And then as he's gotten older, watching it with his kids,
he's come to appreciate it a little more because, I mean,
it's it's funny because you'll hear like I mean, Vanilla Ice,
I mean I hate to use that as an example,
but Vanilla Ice is one of those people that had
one hit and hated the performance. Oh I'm sure, yeah, you.

Speaker 6 (12:57):
Know, I cannot believe you Referendamilla well.

Speaker 7 (13:01):
I mean I couldn't. I mean, I've seen John Moncamp
a handful of times in concert, and one of the
things like he would come out and before he would
play it, he goes, you know, I'm told I have
to play this song, and he goes, I really don't
want to. He says, I really don't understand why I
have to play it. And it was Jack and Diane
like it's his, like it's his signature song. And he

(13:22):
would come out and he would play it acoustic the
last couple of times I saw him. And you know,
Mellencamp has made the comment like when he writes a
song and records it perform, he's done with it. He
doesn't like it's it's over and done with. He's moving on.
He doesn't. He's like, I mean, he had this song.

(13:43):
Never wanted to be a pop singer, you know, never
wanted to be a pop star. Well that's that's what
it is. I mean, he they just like artists have
just a different way of thinking.

Speaker 6 (13:55):
Well they don't. I mean, musicians don't want to be
a jukebox. They don't want to know they're not there
to just churn out the same song over and over.

Speaker 7 (14:03):
I mean, Ricky Nelson wrote a song called Garden Party
because they they wanted him. He played Madison Square Garden.
It was like a throwback to the fifties night, sixties night,
and he had new music and he was playing it
and they were booming because they didn't want they wanted
to hear the hints, right. Well, he didn't want to
play the hits. He well, I mean he didn't mind
mixing the man, but he wrote a whole song about it,

(14:25):
right and how you know, like, look, I'm not your show.
I'm not. I'm you know, I'm the artist. And sometimes
that's that's good and that's bad. You'll have other artists
that say that was my hit, I'm singing it every
I'm making money off that song. Every time I sing it,
I'm making money, or every time it's played on the radio,
I'm making money. I mean, you know, you look at

(14:45):
somebody like a Rob Parisi from Wild Cherry. Every time
played that funky music comes on, he's making a buck
or you know, he's making money on it.

Speaker 6 (14:52):
And so you know, it's I think it's I think
it's different, two different types of mindset. Sure, there's the
artist and then I think there's a musician, if that
makes sense, where the artist is the one who's like,
you know, that's a hit, but I've.

Speaker 7 (15:09):
Created these, there's the artist that also understands the fans
because they're a fan too, you know. You know, like
like I said, Mellencamp, he doesn't really like to play.
He doesn't like the toy, doesn't like he doesn't like
to play the music live. He does. He does it
because he wants the money.

Speaker 6 (15:29):
Somehow we went from Christmas vacation to.

Speaker 7 (15:31):
I don't know how.

Speaker 6 (15:32):
Yeah, well, well you referenced Vanilla Ice.

Speaker 7 (15:34):
Yeah, well we were talking about.

Speaker 6 (15:37):
Yeah, I just love the fact that you pulled out
Vanilla Ice.

Speaker 7 (15:40):
Well, I mean, if you remember, he just he hated
that song. I mean he then finally, I think when
he was on that reality show and they went to
that karaoke, that's when he did it and he kind
of realized maybe it's not as bad as I thought
it was.

Speaker 6 (15:55):
What reality show?

Speaker 7 (15:56):
Remember there was like that celebrity reality show where they
all lived in the same oh.

Speaker 6 (16:00):
The surreal house, That's what it was. Yeah, I watched that.
I'm ashamed to say.

Speaker 7 (16:04):
I think it was it was him and Eric Estrada well,
and he became.

Speaker 6 (16:07):
Really good friends with all the evangelist's wife with the makeup.
That's it. Yeah, they all live together. That's right.

Speaker 7 (16:19):
Wow. Every once in a while I pulled something out,
Yeah you do. You don't forget that either. What where
I pulled that from?

Speaker 3 (16:30):
Well?

Speaker 7 (16:33):
Anyway, we still have your chances to win. If you
want to talk to Chevy Chase, ask him a question.
You want to check out the screening of Christmas Vacation
that's going to be coming up a little bit later
along with.

Speaker 6 (16:41):
No Town Christmas Christmas. But then also it is our
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Same phone number and company. And why am I like

(17:02):
I'm directing the symphony over here.

Speaker 7 (17:04):
As I'm talking, people are gonna see your army view.

Speaker 6 (17:07):
Yeah, I'm talking. I tend to talk with my hands.

Speaker 7 (17:09):
I love the Italian in.

Speaker 6 (17:10):
It is actually seven twenty eight. We're gonna jump to
a quick break. You're listening to the bloom Daddy experience.
Sam otis here on news Radio eleven seventy WWVA.

Speaker 2 (17:25):
Well, when I got word that Bernie Coosar was getting
a liver transplant early Monday morning, I never imagined he'd
be joining me here on the show Tuesday. But the
guy I referred to his legend whenever I he calls
me or I talk to him, joins me right now.

Speaker 5 (17:39):
First of all, how are you feeling.

Speaker 4 (17:42):
Hey, bloom Daddy. It's amazing to be basically sixteen hours
out from liver transplant surgery and to feel this amazing
and be talking to a good friend like you, brother,
And when I say you matter, it's an absolute lou
blessing to be able to say that on Tuesday, November eighteenth,

(18:05):
eighteen hours after a liver transplants.

Speaker 5 (18:10):
It's surreal that you're talking to me right now. I'm
so happy for you.

Speaker 2 (18:14):
I've never said so many prayers of my entire life,
and listen, I wasn't. I'm not the only one. I mean,
so many people have, you know, said prayers for you,
supported you. I mean, you've got to be overwhelmed by
the outpouring of love, you.

Speaker 4 (18:29):
Know, Bloombaddy, The emotion, the roller coaster of emotions that
have happened and the genuineness and here we are, you're
talking besides the liver transplant, talking to a guy with
early early stage dimension, the old timers Parkinsinian symptoms, and

(18:50):
to be able to be cognitively present and fluid right
now with fencing a mid brain paralysis that really causes
to four seconds of delay almost like when you saw
Mitch McConnell for eighteen seconds, or when you saw Tua
on the on the stretcher at the Bengal Stadium frozen.

(19:14):
That's that's really fensing mid brain paralysis. To have stuff
like that and to be able to be cognitively present,
to be able to not have that delay, be able
to just do this interview whether I was bluffing or not,
To be able to be able to enunciate, articulate, communicate,

(19:34):
it's it's really, it's just genuinely just the blessing. And
when you talk about the fans and the love and support,
it's genuine that it's almost fueling me to see that
genuine passion and love that the fans have been showing
out there, and and it's it's almost giving me that

(19:54):
internal fire to keep competing and keep wanting to get better,
to to be able to truthfully not to just share
my message, but to give people hope. But now to
have really figured out some really simplistic, holistic ways to
not only save your life, but for sure keep your

(20:16):
brain in the game. It's just truly humbling, and I'm
super super excited to be able to share this journey
with people.

Speaker 5 (20:24):
That is tremendous to hear.

Speaker 2 (20:26):
Speaking of hearing, what are you hearing from the doctors,
because obviously after a liver transplant, a lot of things
still have to go right. What are they telling you
about the next couple of days, the next couple of weeks,
next couple months.

Speaker 4 (20:37):
Really well, there's this is this is really the beginning,
not the end. You know, when you get the transplant,
you think, okay, great, that's that's really the beginning of it.
And to have just an amazing medical team down here
at University Hospital, and then to have the have them

(21:00):
and the Johnson family, what they've done for me in
the Cleveland Browns, It's just been this exemplelly. I mean,
the stuff that they've done, funding me, keeping my insurance,
taking care of a lot of these expenses, has been
just truly life saving for me. So being able to

(21:25):
kind of go through with the treatments and and and
to continue on with them, being able to to keep
keep my health and wellness going. And not to be
cocky and not to be bragging, but and not to
be confidential what the doctors are saying, but they're actually

(21:47):
amazed they see me, you know, basically this quick after surgery,
being able to just walk probably just finished walking probably
five hundred steps for I mean, usually people don't get
out of bed the next day. So if I sound
a little winded right now, I didn't. I didn't walk

(22:09):
that fast when I was healthy in place football, Okay,
so amazing. I was high stepping this morning down the
uh I c U haul. Okay, so my knees. Coach
shot Onheimer used to yell me, kick your knees up,
But my knees went higher this morning then they did

(22:30):
forty one years ago with coach Marty. So I'm super proud.
I'm super excited to be able to do this. And
I know from heaven the good, the good good, Marty
Schottenheimer is looking down smiling on me, no doubt that.

Speaker 2 (22:46):
Is so that is so great to hear. It's also
great to hear that the Hasloms and the Browns have
helped you.

Speaker 5 (22:53):
They're behind you.

Speaker 2 (22:53):
I don't know if you know, but I've been trying
to get them to retire your number. And it's not
so much because of this, it's because of what you did.
It just it's the right thing to do. I keep
saying that over and over, so believe me, the listeners
here to the Bloom Daddy show myself, we're trying to
get the message across of them to retire that number.

Speaker 5 (23:11):
Nineteen.

Speaker 4 (23:13):
Well, the has Them's and the Johnson family. I'm alive
because of them, So they're I'm definitely on Definitely they're
on my Santa's good list.

Speaker 5 (23:23):
That's great to hear.

Speaker 4 (23:24):
I can't can't thank them and talking. I'm here because
of them.

Speaker 2 (23:29):
Talking to Brown's legend Bernie Kosar, I know it was
dire over the weekend they had a liver for you.
Something happened with the host becoming infected. Did you, I mean,
where were you mentally at that stage when that fell through, Bernie?
Did you think time was slipping through that hour glass? Wow?

Speaker 4 (23:49):
Bloom Daddy, you and me been talking on air and
off air, and we did an amazing, awesome thing last
week was the Travis Mills Foundation and and Chris Miller
with Dogs for Our Brave and talking about that. And
you know, I bluntly have had two or three opportunities

(24:11):
to have a liver over the last six weeks, each
of which did not materialize.

Speaker 3 (24:17):
So the roller.

Speaker 4 (24:19):
Coaster of emotions with that has has been enormous. And
and to have it kind of come to fruition when
it looked really bad over the weekend. I mean you
talk to me. I mean you heard it. You could
tell the difference of my voice today again, even if
I'm bluffing the ability to I used to. I'm going

(24:42):
to show my age here. It's just say Eddie Haskell,
you know, to be able to Eddie Haskell through an
interview as you look so beautiful, missus Cleaver. Okay, and
that's showing my age. All of your the young listeners
are going to say, what is that guy talking about?
But anybody over sixty knows that.

Speaker 5 (25:03):
Yeah, no doubt.

Speaker 2 (25:04):
Is there anything you'd like to say to all the
people out there who've prayed for you and have have wished.

Speaker 4 (25:10):
You well, yeah, absolutely, I can't thank you enough, your thoughts,
your prayers, your spirituality, the carmetic message, it's absolutely coming
through and residing deep in my heart and it's so
fueling me. Keep up going and never stop and keep

(25:33):
up this mission of being and given back responsibly. And
when I say you matter, I so mean you matter.

Speaker 2 (25:42):
Well, listen, my friend, I know you need to rest.
Thanks for jumping on here. I know people wanted to
hear from you. You're inspirational, You're a good friend. And
go get some sleep. You deserve it, all.

Speaker 5 (25:54):
Right, I love it.

Speaker 4 (25:55):
I love your brother.

Speaker 5 (25:56):
You matter, all right, buddy, We'll see you later. Great BERNIEK.

Speaker 6 (26:01):
Sar, Welcome back, seven fifty The bloom Daddy Experience, Sam
and Otis News Radio eleven seventy WWVA. So couple things
to unpack there, and Otis. I'm going to give you
the floor on this because you relate to what Bernie

(26:24):
Cosar went through over the weekend more than anybody I know.
I do want to say this as a Browns fan.
I have been following Bernie on social media the past
couple of weeks. This weekend it was really hard to watch.
I honestly it did not think he was going to

(26:47):
make it through it. And I actually talked to bloom
Daddy about this and I said, you know, I don't
understand why this is hitting me the way it is.
But growing up a Browns fan in the eighties, Bernie
was Cleveland. He was the Cleveland Browns and to see
this was heart wrenching. But it's amazing. It's amazing the

(27:09):
fact that he was able to do that interview. So
of course, all my well wishes go to him. And
the one thing I will say, I did have the
opportunity to meet Bernie Cozar many years ago, and it
was when the Browns came back to Cleveland and they
played the Hall of Fame game in Akron and my
dad was going to he was down in the end
zone and he was signing autographs and my dad was

(27:32):
going to go down and get an autograph and I said, no,
give it to me, I'll go. And there was just
this huge crowd of men, huge crowd of men, and
they're pushing and they're you know, fighting their way through,
and they're all yelling Bernie, Bernie, Bernie. And I'm in
the back and I'm like, I'm never gonna get through.
How am I going to get this man's attention. Everybody's
yelling Bernie, and I screamed at the top of my

(27:53):
lungs and I'm not going to do it here, mister Cozar,
and I was completely different than everybody else. And he
looked at all those guys and he said, let her through,
and he basically, you know, got all of these guys
to move and me and was very happy to sign
the hat for me, and was was so incredibly nice.

(28:14):
And everybody I've ever met who have ever spoken about
Bernie said that he is one of the nicest people.
So so glad that it went well this weekend. But
otis I want, I want, I want to hear from you.
I mean, this has got to be very reminiscent.

Speaker 7 (28:34):
Well. The fact that, I mean, I'm coming up on
my ten year anniversary for my transplant, so I'm ten
years out. I know exactly what he's going through. The
fact that he was able to do an interview eighteen
hours after surgery is impressive because I can tell you this,
at eighteen hours after surgery, I felt like a turd.
I mean, I'm not gonna lie. I mean, you just

(28:55):
I mean, your body's beat up, and you know, I
mean the one thing the difference is I was going
through my stuff. My hip was broken, so I mean
I had a broken hip, plus I had just going
on and so I mean it was a little different
for me in that sense. The first year is the

(29:16):
most critical year after a transplant.

Speaker 6 (29:19):
I was gonna ask, what's the path ahead for him?

Speaker 7 (29:22):
Lot, He'll he'll be he'll be in the hospital for
about ten days probably, and since he lives in Cleveland,
he should be able to go home after ten ten
twelve days. Ondnes they fix, but then they'll be bringing
him back in once a week, and then it'll go
to maybe every other week, and then it'll go to
once a month, and then it'll be three months and
then you know, so the first year is the most critical.

(29:45):
There's a lot of monitoring to make sure that the
meds are He'll be on a ton of meds to start,
and then that'll that'll trickle down because there's a lot
of post op meds to keep the infection out, so
on and so forth. And then as as the farther
you get away from the transplant, the fewer meds you'll

(30:08):
have to take. Now, well, he'll be on anti rejection
meds for the rest of his life, so which you know,
that's you know, I'm down to that. That's the only
thing I'm taking now other than I mean, I have
some you know I take they recommend like a daily
vitamin in a couple other things.

Speaker 6 (30:26):
But I mean that initial window. I'm sorry not to
interrupt you, but that initial window of time do you
for anti rejection into to keep at bay infection or
being coming in contact with somebody? Do you almost have
to live in a bubble?

Speaker 7 (30:41):
You think you do? You don't, Okay. One of the
things again, I had a broken hip, so it was
a little different for me. But I hate to say this,
but I mean one of the one things that I
was terrified to do was take a shower, because you know,
you get staples in you and you get a scar.
It's called a Mercedes scar because it comes, it goes

(31:03):
down and then it branches off so it looks like
a Mercedes emblem.

Speaker 6 (31:08):
And so so you're luxury now, is that what we're saying?

Speaker 7 (31:12):
High I guess I'm high end. But you know, the
there are things that you know, and it affects everybody differently,
So I mean, how it affected me may not affect
the way that that affects Bernie. From my understanding, he
already knows. They already knew who the donor was.

Speaker 6 (31:32):
They do a Browns fan, Yeah, twenty one year old
Browns fan.

Speaker 7 (31:36):
So you know, I mean that I didn't have that
luxury of knowing. Yeah, I still don't know, okay, uh,
And that's up to the that's up to the donor family.
You had like, he may not have to do it
since he knows that they're already on the same page.
But I had to write a letter to the donor
family and it was probably the hardest thing I ever
had to do. And and then it's up to them

(31:59):
if they want to initiate contact or if they want
to know, you know, how I'm doing or whatever. And
you know, we've had Jodi Miller on here before, and
I know that she you know, she knows where Heather's
liver and at least one kidney, and I think there's
another one in there too as well. That they that

(32:21):
they know who the people that received them are. You know,
I have no idea. And then you don't know if
your letter got delivered. You see what I'm saying, because
you hand it to somebody else.

Speaker 6 (32:32):
And then then it's almost fate.

Speaker 7 (32:34):
Yeah, I mean sometimes because sometimes like my coordinator looked
at me and he said, hey, have you written your
letter And I said, yeah, I gave it to you
back in April. And he's like, oh, okay, he said,
you know, but he just maybe he didn't remember. But
on the other hand, you know, did it get lost
in the shuffle.

Speaker 6 (32:50):
Well, in this in this particular story with Bernice Hozar
is getting national attention.

Speaker 7 (32:57):
It doesn't. It doesn't hurt the organ transplant cause when
you have a celebrity I can remember, I'm trying to
think it would have been about nineteen ninety five, ninety
six somewhere in that area, because my cousin passed away
from cancer and one of the things was the treatment

(33:18):
was causing her organs to shut down. And that's when
Mickey Mantle got his liver transplant. And it just it
really irritated me that Mickey Mantle got a transplant and
she didn't know. Not knowing that, she could have never
taken it because you have to be cancer free for
a year. I mean, there's so many things that fall
into place, and so she would have never been able
to get that transplant. One at the time, but it's

(33:44):
you know, a lot of times. I mean, I know
I was close. You know, like I said, I got
mine in December. I don't know if I would have
made it to the first of the year. That's how
bad I was. And you know, from what I've seen
and everything else, Bernie was in pretty bad shape. Yeah,
so moves you to the top of the list. You know,
it's not it's not who you are, it's how bad
you need it. And so you know, there's a lot

(34:07):
of factors that come into play. And you know, happy
that he got it, happy that he's going to be
able to continue on. And I actually just reached out
the Bloomdaddy about something, did you, and so you know,
we'll see what happens.

Speaker 6 (34:20):
Yeah, really good interview, really amazing story. And like I said,
the connection we have with everything otis has been through
this is why we're passionate about this particular subject. We
have a firsthand somebody that has received the ultimate gift.
So you know there is a purpose behind.

Speaker 7 (34:36):
All of it, called the gift of life for a reason.

Speaker 4 (34:38):
Yep.

Speaker 6 (34:38):
Seven fifty eight. We're going to jump to a quick break.
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Speaker 6 (35:09):
Eight oh six on your Wednesday. The bloom Daddy Experience.
Sam and otis Elgin and Tony here on news radio
eleven seventy WWVA. You recognize those names because it's politics
on leash. It is a Wednesday. Before we get to that, though,
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(35:32):
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So that's yeah, that is coming up. And then of
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(35:57):
We've got both in house. Tony was here all by
himself last week. But you survived.

Speaker 5 (36:02):
I did.

Speaker 8 (36:02):
I didn't sink.

Speaker 6 (36:03):
Yeah, you survived. And welcome back Elgin the from your busy,
busy road trips.

Speaker 9 (36:10):
So yes, yeah, yes, it's been a whirlwind.

Speaker 6 (36:14):
I'm sure, I'm sure. All right, let's get into it.
The big topic of the week, the Epstein files. So
yesterday the House voted for twenty seven to one to
release who was the one? The one was Representative Clay
Higgins of Louisiana, and he did put out a statement
as to why he was the one holdout. It says,

(36:37):
as written, this bill reveals and injures thousands of innocent people, witnesses,
people who provided Alibi's family members, et cetera. If enacted
in its current form, this type of broad reveal of
criminal investigative files released to a rabid media will unanimously
result in innocent people being hurt. Not by my vote,

(37:00):
so basically guilty by association, I think, is what he
is referencing. And he doesn't say anything about President of Trump,
just in general, if anybody whose name is even remotely
connected to Epstein, he is saying guilty by association. That's
how I read that or interpret that. So and then
the Senate was a unanimous vote. So my first question

(37:22):
with this particular subject is is this being overblown?

Speaker 9 (37:27):
I think so, But you know, I think it's going
to be a big nothing burger. If there was something
really involving President Trump, I think it would have come
out in the last election cycle. You know the Dems.
Biden had access to that. I mean, you would think
that if there was something in there that he would
have done it. But if that's the big thing, but

(37:48):
for transparency sake, I think it needs to come out.
And guilt by association should never be a thing, but
it is, And I think it's a big nothing. But
if it quashes the whole topic so that we can

(38:09):
move on to bigger and better things like affordability, then
I think it's good. Well, let me I don't know
why we needed to go through Congress.

Speaker 6 (38:17):
Let me ask Tony from a legal perspective. Let me
ask you this question. And I'm sorry to mean to
cut you off because we had a comment on Facebook.
Alan says, the Epstein Files bill grants a G. Pambondi
the authority to withhold or redact any material that can
endanger national security or jeopardize an active investigation. So if

(38:41):
they're saying release all these documents, but if the Attorney
General has the authority to redact particular information, is that.

Speaker 7 (38:50):
Going to.

Speaker 6 (38:53):
Enrage the critics or is that going Is it going
to answer any of the questions. If she has that
authority and they have that, does she have that authority?

Speaker 8 (39:01):
Well, I don't know about enraging the credits. But if
we focus on what the bill says about her ability
to redact things if she wants, if she thinks she
needs to redact items, she can and has to provide
explanations to the House of Representatives and explain why she's
redacting what she's redacting, and they have an ability to
have it back and forth about that. So, with respect

(39:23):
to what Representative Higgins said, I don't think what he's
saying is accurate. With respect of the way the bill's written,
she does have the ability to do that, and they
can work with the House and the Senate to to
figure out what should be redactive, what shouldn't, and what
makes sense and what doesn't. She's got to justify it
to them. As far as whether this is overblown. I'm
taking my cues from the victims. They're the ones that

(39:44):
really pushed for this hard in recent times. They've been
talking about it for decades. Oh absolutely, and they I
think they feel a bit of vindication about getting this
information out there. They're the ones that are saying, you
don't have to worry about us. We're pushing to put
this out there, so get it out there. As far
as what's in it, I don't think we fully know
what's in it, because I mean, i'sn't even doing this

(40:05):
since the eighties. And he got arrested for the first
time on two thousand and seven, two thousand and eight
something like that, yes, and even and then there's a
whole thing with the state prosecution and how the prosecutor
was handling it, and the investigators were like, we don't
like where this is going, and they turned to the Feds.
And then he got a pretty pretty sweet deal, no

(40:26):
matter how you slice it at the time with his
home confinement for a year and work release. So he
pretty much kept his life going as as always, and
his home is different from everybody else's. I mean, he's
a really wealthy person. And then Dwayne Maxwell didn't get
arrested until within the last seven or eight years and
is now in prison. So as far as what information
is there saying that it should it probably already would

(40:48):
have come out. I don't Based on the history I
just went through, I'm not sure about that. But if
the victims say they want this out there, I'm glad
that it's out there, and let the documents speak for themselves.
Let's screw know what's actually in there, and then let
that further discussion. That's my one.

Speaker 6 (41:05):
Do you think the victims are being lost in the conversation?
And what I mean by that is, you know, we
just last week got through the longest government shut down
we've had, and it's almost like the move the news
cycle has moved on. Forget about that, and now we're
back to, you know, we're gonna blow this up. Is

(41:25):
it being used as a smoke screen to for by
the government both sides, to say, you know, we screwed
this up royally, but move on and forget about this
because now we're gonna talk about this more salacious subject.
It kind of has that feeling to me where they're
both using it as a draw our attention elsewhere instead

(41:47):
of scroll. Yeah, instead of holding them accountable for what
they just put the country through for the for the
past however many days it lasted, it could be.

Speaker 9 (41:58):
I mean, you know, and that's just the way, that's
just the way the media cycle runs. The twenty four
hour media sight so fast. It is fast, and it's
the bleep and then it's talked about for twenty four
hours and you're right then there, we're on to the
next thing. That's why we've talked about it before. The
politics and elections are just so it's a lifetime between now.

Speaker 7 (42:17):
And the midterms.

Speaker 9 (42:18):
Oh absolutely, I mean, anything can happen.

Speaker 6 (42:20):
Well, and don't you think if there was something really
in these files against the president, like you said, Elgin,
we would have heard about this, Oh yeah, ten years ago.

Speaker 8 (42:31):
That's a give him the timeline I mentioned. And that's
for sure. I mean, I don't know, and that's why
I want the documents to speak for themselves. And it
was during the campaign this time, around twenty twenty four campaign.
It was people who consider themselves part of the MAGA
coalition who were really, really, really pushing for this. And
after soon after he got in office, they had some
event where Pambondi was handing out all the buyers, there's

(42:53):
those binders and saying the files are here. This is
phase one. You know, they have really, really really pushed
for this for since before last year, but it really
in earnest last year with a bunch of podcasters and
social media influencers. Oh yeah, and then it started, like
I said in January February, which she had that event
at the White House or just passing out. I don't
know what within those binders. I think it was a

(43:14):
publicity stunt. But that has been on the radar since then,
and we're now on November twenty twenty five and it's
it's still on the radar.

Speaker 6 (43:22):
Why do you think, Elgin, why do you think Trump
flipped so quickly? Was it Monday evening where he said, yes,
release them. They're painting the picture as if he has
flipped to to.

Speaker 9 (43:36):
I don't think he's flipped to I think I think
it's enough.

Speaker 6 (43:42):
Let's you want them, Let's do it and move on.

Speaker 5 (43:44):
Move on?

Speaker 6 (43:45):
All right, Well we havehing in there. Well we have
to move on. I do have a I do have
a clip I want to get to when we returned,
But we have to do our first chance to win
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All right, continuing on conversation. Of course, we're in the
middle of politics. On leash, we were talking about the
Epstein Files. Here's a new name to throw into the
conversation with this. Didn't even know this guy existed. I've
watched Tony and I have talked about the different documentaries

(45:40):
on Epstein. We've both watched him, you know, on Netflix
and this and that. His brother, Yeah, did you know
he had a brother.

Speaker 3 (45:51):
Yet?

Speaker 6 (45:51):
Thank you?

Speaker 7 (45:52):
I did know he had a brother. And that's the
extent of it.

Speaker 6 (45:55):
Well he's now speaking two here we go, TMZ oh.

Speaker 8 (46:00):
Boy, Yeah, and to be fair, he's talking to everybody
who will listen, and everybody anybody who will listen, that
includes TMZ.

Speaker 6 (46:07):
Okay, all right, well this is this is where I
have seen it. And well, no, I'm sorry, a listener
sent me the link to this. Didn't even know he existed.
But now all of a sudden, he says his brother's
name is Mark, and says the reason they're going to
be releasing these things The reason for the flip referring
to the president is that they're going to sanitize these files.

(46:30):
There's a facility in Winchester, Virginia where they're scrubbing the
files to take Republican names out. My point of reading
this quote is, no matter I think this, no matter
what they release, how much they release, what is redacted,

(46:50):
what is not redacted, do you think the American people
that are salivating for this information are ever going to
be satisfied?

Speaker 2 (47:00):
No?

Speaker 9 (47:00):
Ever, No, no, no, no. It's just it's perpetuating the drama.

Speaker 6 (47:06):
It's almost like a soap opera at this point. That's
where that's where I go back to my statement of
the victims are being forgotten about. It's and I said
this the other day, it's almost as if, like I said,
it's a soap opera mentality where the average person is
getting a behind the scenes glimpse or they're hoping to
into a world of money, power, fame that none of

(47:31):
us can even begin to imagine. And I think that's
what they want to find in these files.

Speaker 5 (47:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (47:36):
I think there are a lot of salacious details people
are interested in. And that's why I said earlier. I
take my cues from the victims. That's been my focus
throughout this entire process, because they're the ones that are
going if there's someone to be hurt, it's them and
to be revictimized again over and over. I'm taking all
of my cues from them. The way that they're pushing
this the press conferences, they do, the interviews, that do

(47:57):
the book. That's who I'm listening to.

Speaker 9 (47:59):
And it's probably based upon their perception of what's going on.
Like you said, rich, powerful, beautiful island, you know, all
there hooping it up, eating wonderful food, and then as
a side gig, we're just here too for your pleasure basically,
and that maybe that's what they want to expose well, and.

Speaker 6 (48:20):
In trying to connect it to President Trump. You know,
Virginia Dufray, one of the most out the most outspoken victim,
has said time and time again. She wrote it in
her autobiography, well, I'm sorry she recently committed suicide, but
when she, you know, was still with us, she said
over and over again that he was not part of
any of this. There is a video that has come

(48:41):
out from twenty fifteen where he speaks on the island
and calls it a cessible, says ask just ask Prince Andrew.
I mean he and at that point in time people
wrote him off is crazy, called him a conspiracy theorists,
you know, all that kind of stuff. So there's when
did he make that statement? Twenty fifteen, And I can
show you the video during the break. But I don't

(49:04):
think anybody's ever going to be satisfied with what happens
not this.

Speaker 9 (49:09):
No, it's just like anything. Anybody with tunnel vision on
a particular issue will not let go. It's like a
dog with a bone.

Speaker 8 (49:17):
Yeah, And that's why I think they're different, two different avenues.
Will the public be satisfied, You will always find somebody
who's going to be unsatisfied. And when the files do
come out, whatever they look like, somebody's going to create
new conspiracy theories that are not based on the facts.
There's going to be plenty of facts. There's going to
be plenty to actually scrutinize, and I'd be very interested

(49:37):
to see how the victims respond to what comes out
and what they have to say about it. Again, that's
when my focus through this entire process is what they
have to say about it, what their reaction is going
to be what their comments are going to be, and
not every victim's experience is the same, but still I
want to hear from them and continue to hear from them.
They're all very brave.

Speaker 6 (49:55):
Well, because there's a world, well we live in it,
where the the conspiracy theory world has become monetized and
because of that, things like this will never be put
to bed and people are always going to question everything
because there's a group out there. There's people that are
making money off of this when we're talking podcasting and media,

(50:18):
you know, all different levels social media, and unfortunately, it's
it's gotten us to this point where what will we
ever believe? You know, it's it's an unfortunate situation and I.

Speaker 9 (50:31):
Don't know that you can ever get down to the
brass tacks of what actually happened. You know, you're never
going to get the full story. You know, only the
victims that were there and the individuals that were victimizing
know exactly what happened that eyewitness personal interaction until that
and then so's what's in the documents is just what

(50:54):
is taken down by whoever and written down on a
piece of paper, well in.

Speaker 6 (51:00):
The penthouse or the the the main house in New
York City. It's been said over and over again the
amount of cameras and security footage, and we're gonna move
on for this topic. But where are all those videos?
Nobody talks about that. So if we want proof of
who came in and out of that brownstone and the

(51:21):
names and everything, and there was that many cameras, there's
got to be video evidence. It's somewhere.

Speaker 8 (51:28):
I think some of it came out as being cataloged.
That was related to the Glenn Maxwell prosecution, who, by
the way, has THEO credibility.

Speaker 6 (51:35):
Oh yeah, think you think we're gonna move on from this?
When we get back, we're gonna talk AOC presidential hopeful
we'll find out. Eight twenty eight. You're listening to The
Blue Daddy Experienced samin Otis News Radio eleven seventy WWVA

(51:58):
A thirty six welcome back. Oh god, all right, we
got some laugh there going on in here, The bloom
Daddy Experienced samon Otis News Radio, eleven seventy WWVA. Just
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Coming up here very soon. We have Chevy Chase here
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(52:20):
by a Q and A with Chevy Chase himself. But
before we get to that, we're going to continue with
politics on Leash, Tony and Elgin in the House, respectively.
I want to dig into this. So aoc her name
keeps coming up more and more and more over the

(52:40):
weekend late night host Bill Maher, which, by the way,
I really like Bill Maher. I don't get to watch
his entire show, but there's I see clips and segments.
I got to give him credit. He is not afraid
to question everybody. He is one of the most and
I'm sure there's people out there they're going to disagree
with me, but he seems to be the one down

(53:02):
the middle who is willing to call out anybody. And
he has been very vocal recently calling out the Democrats,
saying that they need to come back more to the
moderate to the middle. But this weekend during his podcast,
he brought up aoc and thinking that she would be

(53:25):
a fantastic candidate for the White House. I beg to
differ with him on that, but there is a big ifter,
big if. After that, she had some deep programming He says,
she's never going to resonate with people outside of the
bubble that she lives in and in the very very

(53:45):
far left. The only way Democrats will ever win again,
not that Republicans are probably even going to give it back,
is it to be more moderate? Ony goodness, Tony Onny,
where did that come from? I'm go throw that to
you first. Do you agree with him that they need
to come more to the moderate.

Speaker 8 (54:06):
I think history tells its most presidential candidates have to moderate,
no matter where they are in the political spectrum while
they're running. I mean, every candidate ever has had to
moderate after the primary season in particular, and with the
evident social media, it's a little bit different during the
primary campaigns. But you don't campaign the same way in
New Hampshire as you do in Iowa, was in South Carolina,

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and politicians wear a lot of different hats. It gets
frustrating for people, me included. So, yeah, she will have
to moderate if she's going to run, and of course
that process is going to play itself out, But I
think everyone has to moderate. Kevin Newsem has to moderate,
you know, if he wants to run. Really, anybody else
who's out there for the most part, has to moderate
their tone, and they have to speak to the audience

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that's in front of them. And if you're running in
a Republican campaign Republican primary, that audience is one bucket,
and then if you get out of the primary, then
you have a completely different audience. You're talking to you
and you can't campaign the same way. It's true with
Democrats as well.

Speaker 6 (55:04):
I just wonder somebody with her personality and her derangement syndrome,
let's be honest, can be flexible. Can she be flexible?

Speaker 9 (55:14):
Do you think eligen I don't think that she can
be flexible. I would agree with Tony that you have
to be moderate. The bottom line is you have your
base in the primaries, and then you got to go
after the independence and the undecideds, and those are the
ones that the swing voters are the ones that.

Speaker 6 (55:29):
Make a difference, and you have to.

Speaker 9 (55:32):
Go into places that aren't necessarily friendly. You have to
talk to them. I don't know that AOC can moderate that.
That's just my personal opinion of her, at least at
this stage. She has been so dug in with her
policies and her rhetoric, and even if she tries to moderate. Clearly,

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all of those little sound bites are going to come
back in some political commercial, you know, calling her out
on it. So you have to be yourself. And if
yourself doesn't work with everybody, it's.

Speaker 5 (56:11):
Not going to work.

Speaker 9 (56:12):
And that's why I don't think ac will succeed.

Speaker 8 (56:14):
One thing I will say about her is when she
ran for Congress the first time. One of the reasons
is she went over the top because she was pulling
third during her primary with every single poll that came out,
and then she won is because she does have a
knack of talking to the people that she's with and
being able to meet them where they are. And I've
brought this up multiple times and I'll.

Speaker 7 (56:32):
Keep bringing it up.

Speaker 8 (56:33):
If you have the ability to meet people where they are,
it changes all of your political prospects almost no matter
what you're saying, as long as you're appealing to people's
needs and knowing what people want to hear and what
topics they want to discuss. That's why we have a
universe where there's the Obama Trump Biden Trump voter, because

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when people are speaking to things that matter to you,
they can ignore a lot of the other stuff. And
even people say, you know, I know where you're coming from.
I'm not going to agree with you on everything, but
at least I know where you stand, and they'll still
vote for you because they feel heard, and that matters
a lot. She's able to do that, her moderating has
to be less so as long as she's able to
connect with the people. But that's true of any candidate

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at any any level, but especially residential level.

Speaker 9 (57:16):
Well, it's that likability factor, and she has a very
like she does. She does have a likability factor, but
for her policies. I mean, she is an attractive, young,
young female. She is she is well spoken. I don't
like what comes out of her mouth, you know, but
she is well spoken on the issues that she believes in,
and she's passionate. She has the ability to rile.

Speaker 7 (57:39):
Up the crowd.

Speaker 9 (57:40):
So she has all of the candidate qualities, but she
needs to have the policies.

Speaker 8 (57:47):
Yeah, and she if we actually go through the process,
if that can be refined, then she'll come out on top.
And if she can't, then she won't. That's what the
process is there for now. Again, I think it should
be more open. I like more people involved in the
process so that it's not just a small group of
people on both sides of the aisle determining who are
choices for president are going to be. That's very frustrating, as.

Speaker 9 (58:09):
It was the Demons last time.

Speaker 5 (58:11):
It's really bad.

Speaker 6 (58:12):
Well, oh putting Kamalia.

Speaker 8 (58:15):
Yeah, yeah, but even I mean even that aside, Again,
I have an issue with the primary process, didn't I
don't just focusing on the Democratic the Democratic Party in particularly,
they have super delegates.

Speaker 7 (58:24):
That's stupid.

Speaker 8 (58:24):
Yeah, yeah, don't give that much power to a small
group of people. It's already a small group of registered
Democrats in most states who are able to vote in
the Democratic primary, let alone, give what a few dozen,
maybe it's one hundred hundred and fifty people the ability
to cast one vote and equal the same as the
delegates for an entire population.

Speaker 6 (58:45):
It's like the cool kid mentality in school, like you're
part of the cool kids club, you know, you have
this much power socially, and then the rest of them
are just kind of you know, the yeah, kind of
the dorky kids.

Speaker 8 (58:58):
I guess, well, whatever the case is, they're castaways, and
they say, we get to do whatever we want to do,
and that's how we're going to do it. I think
that's that's something that hurt in twenty sixteen because there
are a lot of people with Bernie Sanders his policies aside,
he speaks to people in a way that they like.
They like hearing what he has to say, They like
that they feel like he's he's met them where they are.

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There are people in this state in West Virginia who
were supportive of Bernie Sanders when he didn't get the
nomination and flipped and voted for Trump because they felt
like both of those men were talking to them and
meeting them where they were. That don't matters so much.

Speaker 6 (59:33):
But don't you think the message of somebody like Bernie
Sanders aoc what we've seen recently is the message of free.
That's what they're preaching is you know, free, this free
that the socialist policies. Well, yeah, that's going to appeal
to a lot of people because who doesn't want free?
But it's not it's not it's not gonna work well.

Speaker 9 (59:52):
And what we're going to have the benefit of is
seeing what happens in New York City in the next
you're isn't it.

Speaker 6 (01:00:00):
But I guess my point is preaching that mentality of
you know, hand out, this handout that that's almost appealing
to I hate to say it this way, but the
lower tier of our country because they want a handout.

Speaker 9 (01:00:16):
They do. But a lot of times some of those
folks aren't even registered to vote. Like you said, well,
you know, they just they just aren't. You can, you can,
you can say that, But when you ask them deeper
questions of well why you know, where do you think?
Then I don't know, you know. So it's it's a

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bigger subject than just it's going to be free. Well,
who's going to pay for it? Where are you going
to get it? How's it going to be distributed?

Speaker 6 (01:00:45):
People don't think about that.

Speaker 9 (01:00:47):
Is it going to be distributed to the illegal immigrants?
You know that that have come in? You know, there's
so many different factors that the average Joe Schmoe just
doesn't think about when thinking I need this benefit.

Speaker 8 (01:01:01):
Yeah. I think one thing about Bernie Sanders is he
actually has said in the past, look, we've spent X
amount of dollars on A, B and C in the past,
Let's take that money and put it in these other
places to invest in our people. That's kind of discussion
you need to have.

Speaker 6 (01:01:13):
Yeah, I'm not dismissing that Bernie Sanders is not an
intelligent man. That's not what I was, you know, trying
to put.

Speaker 8 (01:01:19):
I mean the actual money where it's coming from, what's
already been spent. If you continue to have that money
available on a budget, reallocate where it's going.

Speaker 5 (01:01:26):
Right.

Speaker 6 (01:01:27):
Yeah, well, folks, we're done. I'm gonna let you out
a little bit early. How's that sound dismissed? G Thanks,
but thank you guys once again for popping in. Of course,
that's politics unleashed with Tony and Elgin. You're listening to
the bloom Daddy Experience. It's eight forty six on your
Wednesday here on news Radio eleven seventy WWVS. Welcome back.

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It's eight fifty the bloom Daddy Experience salmon Otis News
Radio eleven seventy WWVA. All right, we're gonna make a
hard left here, folks. We're gonna go from politics to
turkey tossing or because joining Matt joining me now in
the studio, we have Travis the terror Clark. Of course
everybody recognizes that name, along with Chris Dunton with Pike

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forty which we talk about Pike forty all the time,
the smash burgers, the wings, everything, But guys, thank you
for popping in this morning.

Speaker 10 (01:02:27):
Oh problem, hey, thank you?

Speaker 6 (01:02:28):
All right. So I saw this. Of course I follow
Pike forty on social media and I saw this pop
up and I thought, all right, I got to reach
out to these guys because this is great. So tell
me what is happening on Thanksgiving Eve? Please explain what
is going on?

Speaker 11 (01:02:47):
Well, it's another edition of the turkey toss that we've
been doing for a few years here. Now we a
little bit of a just a fun thing to do
on Thanksgiving Eve and just a test of strength in
athleticism is to see how far you can throw a
sixteen pound turkey.

Speaker 7 (01:03:04):
Okay, grocery store.

Speaker 6 (01:03:05):
We're painting. This is like the one of the greatest
spectacle in sports.

Speaker 7 (01:03:09):
With I mean, it's one of them.

Speaker 11 (01:03:11):
It's up there on that list. It's one of them.
It's it's it's unsanctioned. But we're hoping for big things
really with this one.

Speaker 6 (01:03:20):
All right, Travis, how are you part of this?

Speaker 10 (01:03:24):
So the Duntons and I go back a long way.
We went to school together. Good people. Great, They do
a lot for community. They're just great people all around,
their whole family. I love their whole family. They're good
people to me. And they reached out to me and
asked me to beat Chris, So I said, of course,
I'd love to go up against Chris. He's like the

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sixteenth best quarterback from Union Local.

Speaker 6 (01:03:47):
And wow, barbs are flying, and.

Speaker 10 (01:03:50):
You know I'm coming in. You know when I do stuff,
I come in to win and I'm coming to take
care of it.

Speaker 6 (01:03:55):
Okay, So when you say beat Chris, we're not talking
gloves and in the ring, as you're known for. We're
talking what So what is the challenge that is between
the two?

Speaker 7 (01:04:05):
Yeah, well let me cut him on there.

Speaker 11 (01:04:06):
So Terry, he's gonna come in a host, he's gonna
come in and bring all that. But we but really
the whole night culminates with uh with a face off,
a square and up of of the terror and me.
And you know, he's he's got state awards and he's
what that belts and the stuff that you went and wrestling,
but none of that has anything to do with the

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with all of the core strength and everything that it
takes to throw a turkey across a courtyard and so.

Speaker 5 (01:04:37):
You know, I don't know.

Speaker 11 (01:04:38):
I've been doing a lot of squats and uh in
different things, and I think that's gonna really help.

Speaker 7 (01:04:42):
But yeah, he's.

Speaker 11 (01:04:45):
I think people are gonna see that it takes a
lot to throw a turkey and it's not you know,
and I got practice. We've been known this for a
couple years now right now. So it's it's a it's
a night that I think people can have fun with.
And but it's just hard to sit here with him
because I just know that as far back as we go,

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I just don't I just don't think that any of
that really matters when you're on the court.

Speaker 6 (01:05:11):
The court. Okay, so wait a second, Travis D You're
like red, you maachin our walls. You're laughing so hard.
So is this a frozen turkey, a live turkey, a
cooked turkey?

Speaker 11 (01:05:25):
Yeah, it's it's got to be frozen, you know, because
you were throwing it across the courtyard, so there has
a tendency to sort of move and shift in that bag.
So you have to make sure it just doesn't explode everywhere,
because turkey juice isn't something that you really want to
clean up a lot.

Speaker 7 (01:05:38):
So we have we bring.

Speaker 11 (01:05:40):
We bring duct tape just in case that it gets
a little wild and things start popping and all that
kind of stuff. You got duct tape of back up,
which is also a part of Travis's duties there. And
then and then we'll use a duct tape on on
on you, you know, your wrists and things, because you
want to make sure you got good stability there when
you're doing it. But a big sixteen pound turkey. The kids,
there's a kid's division. They're going to do a three
to four pound because I only they don't make turkeys

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that's small. So we're gonna do a three to four
pound chicken, frozen chicken for the kid's division.

Speaker 5 (01:06:07):
Uh.

Speaker 11 (01:06:07):
And then you know, if we get a really I
was talking to Travis about this, if we get a
really big kid in that division, I thought maybe maybe
maybe maybe he could also, you know, test Travis as
well and see if maybe that kid can jump up
a division and do it. But I don't know all
these divisions and stuff. I just know that pure strength
and athleticism is important when it comes to this, and

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and I've been practicing a lot longer before I called
Travis to see if Peop would do this is he
doesn't know.

Speaker 7 (01:06:33):
About what are the rules? Like, are you allowed to
like is the is the turkey in the bag with
the handles? So like, are you allowed to do like
a spin like a hammer throw or is it just
like you have to just standing toss.

Speaker 11 (01:06:46):
You just can't cross the line. So you can do
what you gotta do, whatever you've been built for. You
can do whatever you can do to get that thing,
but you cannot cross over the line. Got so yeah,
you can do a hammer toss and the spin and
all that kind of thing. You can, Grandma, you can
do anything. You know, all those things apply.

Speaker 7 (01:07:02):
And it's airtime. It's not is it total distance counting
the slide or is it just where it lands?

Speaker 11 (01:07:08):
Like where it lands not rolls? Okay, yeah, not roll
if we gosh, we can roll. My god, we rolled
that thing all the way down to Warristown. We you know,
it's just uh yeah, where it where at the airtime.

Speaker 6 (01:07:19):
So can others participate?

Speaker 11 (01:07:21):
It's unsanctioned again, so this is these are our roles.

Speaker 6 (01:07:23):
Your house les and others can participate right the sign So.

Speaker 11 (01:07:27):
Yeah, so you sign up kid's division, an adult division. We're
gonna do weight classes and uh, and that's all signed
up that day Thanksgiving Eve, we're gonna do everything at
six o'clock, kick.

Speaker 6 (01:07:37):
Off silock, bragging rights or or a belt. Did somebody
get one of Travis's belts?

Speaker 7 (01:07:45):
I think we're done.

Speaker 11 (01:07:50):
I think we come up with a turkey belt. I
think it's time to do that. But uh, but yeah,
bragging rights and there's prizes. So there's a cash prize,
there's uh dutt and cattle is providing beef and uh.

Speaker 6 (01:08:02):
For throwing a turkey, you get something.

Speaker 3 (01:08:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (01:08:04):
Yeah, it's just it's a little contradictory right there. We
just don't grow turkeys though, so we we grow, we grow.

Speaker 6 (01:08:13):
So as you're hosting Travis, are you buy any chance?
I think and I tried to get Otis to do
this for the turkey trot, I think you need an
inflatable turkey costume as the host.

Speaker 10 (01:08:23):
I don't know that that was in my contract. I
might have to read between the lines on that one.

Speaker 7 (01:08:29):
It might interfere with my throwing the contry necessarily.

Speaker 6 (01:08:33):
For everybody to come and enjoy.

Speaker 7 (01:08:34):
Right, yeah, anyone anyone can come out.

Speaker 11 (01:08:36):
Thanks, you're doing yes at the Pike forty we're doing
it six o'clock. We have we have beef specials, brisket
specials and things because you know you're gonna have a
lot of turkey that the rest to day. I thought
about doing, you know, like pumpkin pie and stuff, but again,
you're gonna have that all the rest of the weekend.
We're not gonna do that. We're gonna do a barbecue
barbecue specials Wednesday. Uh and uh, this all kicks off

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at six o'clock with the kids division.

Speaker 6 (01:08:59):
Well, I think I might have to come out to
you want some Oh no, no, no, I'm not. I'm
not I'm not even a turkey. I'm not even a turkey.
But this is this is perfect for social media. So
I think we're gonna have to jump out there. But
we have to have to cut you guys short. I'm
sorry you're starting to get too heated for us because
we have a pair of tickets we have to give

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away before the end of the show.

Speaker 10 (01:09:21):
We get it.

Speaker 6 (01:09:21):
But I will definitely come out and check this out again.
This is happening Thanksgiving Eve at the Pike forty the
Turkey Toss.

Speaker 7 (01:09:29):
Let's go, Yes, come out and check it out.

Speaker 6 (01:09:31):
You can tell it is heated. One eight hundred sixty
four eleven seventy. We have a pair of tickets for
Christmas Vacation screening December ninth, followed up by Chevy Chase
himself in the theater to take questions. One eight hundred
sixty two four eleven seventy. One eight hundred sixty two
four eleven seventy let's do caller number nineteen, caller number

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nineteen for your chance to win. Guys, thank you so much,
Thank you for having us. Travis. I'll find you a
turkey blow up costume.

Speaker 7 (01:09:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:09:58):
Thanks, buddy, have a great Wednesday. We'll talk to you tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (01:10:05):
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