Community and Connections Season 2 Episode 2 with Dr. Richard Greenlee

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:16):
Welcome back to another episode of Community and Connections. I'm
Drake Watson with Jason Garsick and we are joined on
today's episode by doctor Richard Greenley of Ohio University Eastern UH.
Doctor Greenley, it's great, great to have you with us
this morning, and we're excited to talk to you.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
Well, I'm glad to be here this morning. Interestingly, I
was thinking as I parked my car and started to
walk towards here. My father grew up on Wheeling Island,
so all across the bridge and came back over on
Erie Street and in this very building, my great grandfather
ran to pool hall, did he wow? And supposedly I

(00:54):
actually have a box of three ivory que balls, which
they don't do anymore, that you can actually see the
whole drilled in them to carve them out, and they've
shrunken over the years, and they're in a wood box
and in the bottom of the box it says Capitol
Music Hall, Wheeling, West Virginia.

Speaker 3 (01:11):
Wow, that's pretty cool. Cool.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
My grandfather he would close the pool hall, my my
or my great grandfather, my grandmother would said he would
close the pool hall when it was done at night.
He would play pool for money all night long. And
she said during depression they never went hungry, so he
must have been pretty good. Yeah, yes, and he always
dressed even I remember him as a wee little young child.

(01:37):
At Thanksgiving, he would dress with a three piece suit.
So he had this look and sophisticated biard player.

Speaker 4 (01:44):
That's pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
Well, speaking of pretty good, I think we're a minute
and a half in and we didn't even have to
ask you a question. You got you got it right
into it. That's that's that's great to have to have
stories like that.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
Well, actually, I was going to bring my banjo today
because I want to be able to brag that I
played at the Capitol Music Hall. Yesterday. I was m
seeing the parade at the Chautauqua at Epworth Park, and
between the police cars and the fire engines which we're
all running their sirens, I was yelling pretty loud so

(02:18):
people could hear the names of the floats and the
people that went by. So today I'm a little bit
hoarse in that process.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
Oh that's okay, that's okay. Yeah, the banjo would have
been would have been a nice time.

Speaker 5 (02:30):
Bring the accordion in with it.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
Well, yeah, we could have could have brought over, we
would have started a whole new I don't know if
the people of the High Value were ready for us.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
Well, outside of playing the banjo, you're currently interim dean
at at the Eastern branch O High University. Uh talk
to and this, I believe is your second stint as
the interim Is that correct?

Speaker 2 (02:56):
Well, I wasn't the interim the Uh. Well, I guess
I was way back. I think I don't know anymore
two thousand and eight or nine. I was the interim
dean for one year, and then I was the dean,
appointed the dean and did that for another four and
a half years. I was also the interim dean at
Zainesville campus for two years, and then I'm back now

(03:18):
as the interim dean here for this year.

Speaker 1 (03:21):
So how did you come to the role of you know,
how was your name considered for dean or interim dean
going from from a professor i'd imagine to that role.
What was that process like and what do you think
made your name attractive for that role?

Speaker 3 (03:37):
Well?

Speaker 2 (03:37):
I had to interview, of course, with lots of other
folks who were interested in the role. Probably that I
had been the previous dean and had that experience for
five and a half years of actually being the dean
of the campus, and I know the community, and so
I think, you know, I'd like to have the opportunity
to go back and talk about growing up here, because

(03:58):
I think it all feeds into what I do now
and where I'm wrapping up my career. So a song
I would have sang first for you if I was capable,
and it would have been pretty hoarse. It's called I
wrote it a long time ago, and it was called
picking Walnuts and had nothing to do with actually picking walnuts.

(04:19):
It was my mother's sense of humor. I grew up
living in a house with no running water, an outhouse,
and two coal stoves for heat, and in my bedroom
really all there was in the upstairs floor was an
old iron bed, an addresser, and probably enough clothes to
put in that top drawer. So we went through a

(04:40):
very difficult time. And my mother had a wonderful sense
of humor. She was a great storyteller. She had a
great sense of humor. She was wonderful about making light
of what was very stressful in some ways terrible time.
I mean we were, we were quite poor to put

(05:02):
it bluntly, I guess. And so on Sundays she would say,
we're going picking walnuts, and that meant we loaded up
in the car and we would go on down to
the strip pits where the trucks had come around a
big bend and they would be overloaded and the coal
would fall off the top right around this one corner,
and that's what we would use. We didn't have the

(05:22):
money to buy the coal, so we would then pick
up the lumps of coal that had fallen off the trucks,
put it into a car, and then we bring that
home to fire. Those costs for that week, and so
I always remember that, and she always made light of
a bad situation and made you feel not so bad
about it. Yeah, she was a very She just died

(05:42):
in January. She was ninety years old. She was a
very strong woman who hung in there with six kids,
living day to day. I mean many times very little
to eat in a very cold home that I don't

(06:03):
know how to say it. I wouldn't want to live
that way ever. Again, that's what I would say. And
I appreciate her ability to her strength during that period
of time. You know, I learned like a couple of principles.
You know, you do you make it last and you
do without. And both her and my father were that way.

Speaker 1 (06:24):
Do you how often do you find yourself going back
to that way of thinking, I guess just making light
of your finding the positives with a within a poor situation.
How often do you kind of use that way of
thinking in your everyday life, with your with your role
and now as interim dean, and just in life in general.
Is that something that you think about a lot?

Speaker 3 (06:43):
Well?

Speaker 2 (06:44):
Yeah, I don't think you ever forget living that way. Yeah,
but I do think it gives me a perspective that
whatever we think so bad right now is not that bad. Sure,
and it's not as bad as that was. And I
still think that, you know, you can come out just
fine out of that, but that doesn't mean it's easy,
and that doesn't mean you're going to have ups and

(07:04):
downs in that process. So when I graduated from high school,
I had absolutely no idea what I was going to
do next. None. I think I lived in a little
imaginary world sometimes that oh I could go to college. Yeah,
but you know, I didn't believe I was smart enough.
I didn't I knew I didn't have any money to

(07:26):
go to college, and as everybody else started talking about
what their plans were, I had none. And sometimes I
would make up stories though, well maybe I'll go to college,
you know, but in reality I knew probably that wasn't
going to happen, and it didn't. So at eighteen, I
joined the Army. I remember going down to Buller, Ohio,
and I can still remember the sergeant's name who took

(07:49):
me in, a Sergeant Hickey, and they put me through
a battery of test and when I came out, you know,
I said what can I be? And he says, well,
he had all these things, and for some reason he
brought up a social work psychology specialist. And I said,
well what do they do because I had no idea
what they did. And he says, well, they help people.

(08:09):
And I thought, well that sounds all right, Okay, I'll
do that. And he says, if you sign up for
three years rather than two, then you're guaranteed one year
where you're assigned. And I said, okay, well where can
I go? And he says, you can go to Forts,
oh Oklahoma, or you can go to Walter Reed Army
Medical Center in Washington, d C. And all I could

(08:31):
think of was John Wayne movies. This was the extent
of the depth of my thinking. I said, I said,
Forts Oklahoma, I'm thinking horses. I'm thinking this is going
to be like the Wild West John Wayne movies I
watched and he says to me, you don't want to
go to Forts, Oklahoma. I said, why not? He says,

(08:52):
there's nothing to do there. I said, oh, well, where
should I go? He says, you should go to Walter
Reed in Washington, d C. I was so afraid to
go into what I wasn't even sure actually if Washington
d C was the Washington out West or the Washington East.
I didn't know that geography to understand that. And off
went a journey. I mean I rode on planes and

(09:14):
trains and had to get cabs and bought some little camera.
It was like one of the first things I had
really bought that was special, that I had money to
buy that, you know. I went to basic training and
I was with a unit that was predominantly African American.
I had never really known anybody who was African American personally,

(09:37):
and now I'm in a unit for the next twelve
weeks with people who grew up in a very different
way from inner cities versus me in a very rural
area in that process, and I had wonderful people along
the way who helped me. When I got into social work,
I had people who mentored me, who took me under

(09:58):
their wing. And even though there was something in the
military not really supposed to fratenize with officers, they invited
me to their and I was enlisted, obviously a brand
new E one at a basic training and they invited
me to their homes for Christmas, knowing that I didn't
have anywhere to go necessarily, and bought presents for me

(10:19):
and made me feel part of their families when I
was away from home. And I still to this day
have a great respect for them and.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
What they did well. That ties into the connections aspect
that we talk about all the time, making those connections.
And obviously, you know you weren't that bad, so they
were still able to invite you over for whatever it
may have been. And I think that's something that's really
really interesting to hear about how you were able to

(10:50):
make that connection and have you know that you know,
have a place to go.

Speaker 2 (10:53):
As you said, well, I had new self confidence whatsoever,
and In fact, it was an officer that I worked
for who encouraged me to start going to school. And
the Army had a relationship with the University of Maryland
and you could go at night after work and the
Army would pay for it. And I remember when he
first offered it up, I said, oh, I'm too busy.

(11:15):
I don't have time to go. And the reason I
was telling them is I thought I would fail. I
didn't think I was good enough to go to college,
and so I was just making up excuses left and
right why I couldn't do it. And he says to me, well,
you're going to start going to school and you're going
to take a class. I said, well, I don't even
know how to sign up, and you those days, of course,
you had to go let it literally figuratively sign up.

(11:38):
And so he walked me through that whole process, showed
me how you buy books, showed me how to get
ready for the classes, helped me with some of the
classes along the way in the beginning, and I remember
taking an English class and my writing skills weren't very good,
but you got to rewrite papers, and he would help
me rewrite them, you know, And then I would go

(12:00):
back in and I would keep brushing them up, and
in the end I ended up getting a bee, and
I thought, whoa, this is a major success in this process.
And I got done with that, and I thought, in fact,
i'ted to tell my family I went to college because
this way, if I flunk up, they'll never know. That
was my plan. So but then after I get done
with this one course, he says, you're going to take
another class. I said, I'm too busy. He says, no,

(12:22):
you're going to You're going to take a speech class.
So I took this speech class. And I can't tell
you how much I sweat over that class because the
speech was coming the day. You had to get up
in front of thirty five people, and you had to
pick a topic which I had worked on and worked on.
In fact, I decided I would talk about coal workers numoconios,
this black lung disease. It's not definitive for sure, but

(12:46):
there's a good chance that's we never had, like an
autops or anything that My father probably at least partially
responsible for his death at fifty nine. He was a
coal miner, and so I I practiced that thing, and
I practiced it and they said, don't you got to
look at the people. You don't hold on to the
podium like it's going to fly away, you know, don't

(13:07):
stare at your notes, and don't go too fast. I
did all those things. I did them all. I got done,
and I had a coal figure that a coal miner
made out of coal that I put up on the podium.
And when I got done, the professor says to me,
she says, what does krik mean? I said, that's where
you get water from. And then she says, she says

(13:32):
to me, well, what does worsh mean? And I said,
well you can, that's you get cleaned up, you know.
And then she says to me, what does Yin's mean?
And this has been like a defining word of my life.

Speaker 3 (13:43):
You know.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
At that point, I didn't realize that everybody didn't say that,
because here Western Pennsylvania, the Panhandle, West Virginia, people say
YM's a lot and so. But when she said that,
I said, well, it means all of you people and everybody.
He started laughing. But at that time, because my self
esteem is so little, I'm humiliated. I can feel my

(14:06):
face turning red. And I walked out of there with
no intention of ever going back to college if it
hadn't been for my boss who says, how school going,
And he kept persisting and said when it got done,
he said, you need to go back to school. You're
not quitting. And I probably wouldn't be here talking to
you today, and all the things that have happened since
wouldn't have you know. And along the way in the army.

(14:27):
The best thing I ever did is I married my wife,
and she was another great supporter of all my hair
brained schemes of how he's going to make it in
the world, and went with it and supported me all
the time, no matter what. And I wondered, I probably
still have never asked her today, why would you marry
somebody like me? At that time I had no college degree,

(14:51):
no money, and no prospects of a future. And she'll
probably listen to this sometime, maybe she'll tell me, or
I don't know if I want to know. We just
celebrated fifty years, so I would say that that worked
out pretty good at the end overall. But she's been
a lifelong partner and support and in many ways she
was my role model beginning because she already had a

(15:13):
bachelor's degree in nursing and became an Army social or
a nurse officer.

Speaker 5 (15:19):
Wow, amazing. So you continue your college at University of Maryland.
What did you end up studying? What'd you get your
degree on it?

Speaker 2 (15:28):
At that time it was criminology and law enforcement. And
then when I decided to get an MSW because I
worked with emotionally disturbed children for a year or so
after I got out of the Army, I was a
social work psychology specialist in the Army, so that's kind
of fit that I would do that. Also, it was
in the same bulcher and at that time they didn't
have bachelor's degrees in social work. So when I got

(15:51):
out then and I worked with emotionally disturbed kids, I
was advised by my old Army boss that you should
go get an MSWN. I went to the University of
Pittsburgh and that's where I got my MSW. And later
after that I actually worked at I worked at Cambridge,
the State Hospital, and I did that for about a year.

(16:13):
I worked with the Industrial Commission and then I went
back in the Air Force as a clinical social work
officer and was a captain I think, and I ran
drug and holcol treatment programs there primarily, and did on
call emergency room, mental health crisis calls, that kind of thing.

(16:34):
So that was a you know, all those things I
sometimes tell people. I feel like I was Forrest Gump.
I didn't become a millionaire, but everything lined up, and
I didn't know what I was doing, except I knew
to work hard. My father only had a seventh grade education.
He went to the Madison School over here on Wheeling Island,
and you know, I could he couldn't. He couldn't be

(16:57):
a role model for me to go to college. I'm
the first gen college student. But what he taught me
was hard work. I watched him every day, every day,
go to work. I watched him go to work when
he was sick as could be. He never because he
needed to work to bring home money. He went in
that coal mine, and I don't know, he's in the
mid thirties. I can remember the first day he came back.

(17:19):
He worked hard all day and when he came home
he couldn't get out of bed, and we got him
up out of bed and put him in the car.
He said, get me there and I'll go to work.
So he started a later later years to work that
kind of job. But he always worked hard labor jobs,
and you know, he was proud of what he did.
And I learned about being proud of what you do

(17:40):
and doing it right and working hard. And he was
very intelligent, even though he only had a formal seventh
grade education. He could fix anything. He always fixed his
own cars. We couldn't afford to take him to somebody
to be fixed. We went to junkyards. We found you know,
we found parts, and he put him in and he
was a master of many trades and I had a

(18:04):
lot of respect for him. Unfortunately, none of that mechanical
aptitude passed on. I got to pay people to do
all that kind of work.

Speaker 1 (18:12):
Well, how did so how did that journey? I think
we left off in the air Force. If we fast
forward a little bit, what led you to Ohio University?

Speaker 2 (18:22):
Well? I went to the doctoral program at Ohio State
where I got my PhD in social work. Okay, and
when I got done there a lot of folks they
were going around interviewing multiple places, because that's kind of
what you did after you got a PhD, to see
your best offer. I didn't interview anywhere but university. I
only wanted to be there. I had no idea it

(18:44):
they would hire me, and so I you know, I
went there and I interviewed. I had not finished my
I had not even really started hardly my dissertation. I
had done the first two years where you do these
comp you do all the coursework, comprehensive exams, and then
it was time to you have this year. Oh, some
people take years to write their dissertation. But I went

(19:05):
to Athens interviewed for the job. They hired me without
the dissertation completed. But in that year I was a
full time professor and I worked. I shut my door
at five o'clock and I would work till late on
that dissertation every night. And a year later I graduated
with my PhD. And I have now been at o
High University for thirty five years. This is my thirty

(19:28):
sixth year. Is the interim dean.

Speaker 1 (19:31):
So did you whenever you first started, did you start
at Athens or were you at a regional cast.

Speaker 2 (19:36):
I started at Athens when I took that job out
of Ohio State. And while I was there, I was
a faculty member for a long seventeen years or so.
I was the chair of the Social Work Department at
one time, and I also was an Associate Provost of
Appalachian Access and Outreach that I did and played a
role in mentoring the Appalachian Scholars students that we had

(20:00):
created that program for at that time at o High University.

Speaker 1 (20:04):
So you said you're from this area, correct.

Speaker 2 (20:07):
Yes, I was just looking up some genealogy stuff the
other day. My mother's people were from Switzerland, and so
they settled into Switzerland of Ohio Monroe County. And in fact,
I just looked at some of their where they're buried
the cemeteries in Switzerland township of Ohio, which is kind
of ironic. They didn't go very.

Speaker 1 (20:29):
Far in terms and they yeah, sure.

Speaker 2 (20:31):
And then my dad's folks they came here in the
early eighteen hundreds to Belmont County and they originally were
from Scotland. They have been here since the Revolution, so
for a long time in this valley. You name it
pretty much every town up and down that I have
a family that lived in these towns down to Wetzel

(20:51):
County and Uppear obviously all around Wheeling in the processing
on the Belmont County side, Saint Clairsville, Rington, And when
I cross over the Monroe County line. If I come
up seven, I always say, these are my people. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:07):
I was just Simmerro County the other day. It's beautiful down.

Speaker 2 (21:09):
There, Oh absolutely Yeah. And they lived way up on
a on Pew Ridge, up on a ridge and you
can see out forever there. And I remember when I
first became dean the first time, and I was standing
downstairs and there was another talking to the folks at
student services, and I'll never forget that. The woman started

(21:32):
using Yen's and I hadn't heard that in a while. Yeah,
and I just thought, again, these are my people. This
is where I'm supposed to be, you know, this is
my place. So I was always just this is this
is these are my roots all the way. Yeah, this
is where I belong.

Speaker 1 (21:47):
I think I had a speech class my first semester
of my freshman year, and I can't remember in what
way we talked about it, but we did talk about
Yen's and and Crik and things like that, you know,
just I think more of a of a highlight of
just different dialects, so to speak. But so you're at Athens,
and then what was the journey like getting from there?

(22:09):
In that role to back here in the valley and
working at the Eastern campus.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
Well, at the time, the dean who was here was
stepping down and the provost who I worked for us
an associated provosts. She said to me, we need somebody
to go up and be an interim dean up at
the Eastern campus. And she said, and I know, she
knew my story, she knew I was from here, and

(22:36):
I said, she said, would you be interested in doing that?
And she had talked to some folks up here, and
off I went. And my wife actually stayed in Athens
that year because it was not sure I would be
appointed the deans, so that we weren't going to move
and sell our house. But later on, as it turned out,

(22:57):
I was appointed the full time dean for the rest
of that and we moved back. So we live in
Saint Clairsville. I went to Union Local High School.

Speaker 1 (23:06):
That's where I went.

Speaker 2 (23:07):
And you know, again, I just I think in life,
it's kind of like my whole Forrest Gump theory. I
think I was supposed to come here, I was supposed
to be the dean here, and then I've enjoyed very
much in between. When I stepped down as dean being
a we have something we call early retirement where you
teach a third of your teaching load and I've enjoyed

(23:29):
keeping active with that and now back for a full
time interim dean for this year.

Speaker 5 (23:35):
That's awesome. And doctor Greenley, we first met during your
time as dean out at the Eastern Campus.

Speaker 2 (23:41):
That's right, Jason, you're giving up a little bit.

Speaker 5 (23:47):
But how does this compare when you were being for
those almost four years you sent How is your time
now in the role that you're in, how are they different?
How do they compare or what goals you have in that?

Speaker 2 (24:00):
Well, I think things have changed because we've switched to
an administrative model of one Ohio, which more it centralizes
things more than in the past. So I'm just learning
that I've only been back in this for another, you know,
a month and a half or so, so I have
a lot to learn. But I don't have my own
It used to be the budget sat with the campus

(24:21):
and now most of that comes out of a regional
higher education budget and so I've got to learn the
you know, the intricacies of that. So that makes it
a bit different where a lot of things that used
to be my decision to do. But now the role
is more of community outreach, which is we always did that,

(24:41):
but now it's more focused on that. Across the line.
So I got something I want to share, So here's
I want to make sure I get time to do this.
So I can't sing, but I brought a little recording
of a song I wrote for OUE. Can I play that?
So here? Let's got it all right? So I know

(25:04):
there's one mess up in the recording, but I only
did it on his phone, so it's not folks out there.
It's not a professional recording anyway.

Speaker 1 (25:11):
When you do it, hold it up, Hold it up
like this so everybody can hear it.

Speaker 2 (25:14):
It's called We're small, but We're mighty.

Speaker 4 (25:35):
We are small, but we're mighty, they calls.

Speaker 3 (25:39):
So for sixty years we served the o File Valby.

Speaker 4 (25:46):
We started at high school in Darton Fery University. Can
heard a degree overcome and all his fears and uncertainties.

Speaker 3 (26:06):
It came from a high school eight challenge.

Speaker 4 (26:10):
She did sequel.

Speaker 3 (26:12):
She rode a van for many hours in the wee hours.
We we are small, but what by it do? So
for sixty years we served the Opio Valley. We started

(26:34):
in high school in Thornton's Ferry.

Speaker 1 (26:38):
We are.

Speaker 3 (26:41):
University. She sat in network, not paralyzed by fearing, summoned
the courage. Jane bought back those dair. She fumbed those
many stuffs and inner shed and ball. In time she
had confidence and balk to call. We are small but body.

(27:12):
So for sixty years we served.

Speaker 4 (27:16):
The file Balle. We started at high school in Darton Ferry.

Speaker 3 (27:24):
We out of.

Speaker 4 (27:27):
University the first time through.

Speaker 3 (27:30):
He had done but left for no degree. Ali was
more serious. He had family, A veteran returned to school.

Speaker 4 (27:41):
She fought lore f Her goal was.

Speaker 3 (27:45):
To help to theirs who with school. We are small body, Nicole.

Speaker 1 (27:57):
So you.

Speaker 3 (28:00):
Years we served the dial Valley. We started that school.

Speaker 5 (28:09):
We started at school.

Speaker 3 (28:12):
In Burton's y.

Speaker 4 (28:16):
My University.

Speaker 3 (28:19):
A single parent, the husband had. She never been in college,
but now she must provide the big cool manor lost
to job when the manchet now it bos came in and.

Speaker 5 (28:46):
That's good, awesome, wow.

Speaker 2 (28:48):
So that's what Ohio University Eastern does. So let me
be clear about that. You know, all those stories those
are students and the struggles they had and the obstacles
they had to overcome and campus out here. People don't
realize we're putting four million dollars into that campus right now,
four million dollars. The whole two second floor, third floor,
we already did the first floor. They're all torn up.

(29:10):
We're putting in complete new you know, HVAC systems, new
tiles on the front. We're putting in a new wellness
center within the building there. Sometimes people wonder what's going
on in there. There's a lot going on right yeah,
no doubt right now. And the bottom line is all
those people, we gave them hope and an opportunity to
turn their lives around when things were going bad for them, just.

Speaker 3 (29:32):
Like it was for me.

Speaker 2 (29:33):
That's what higher That's what higher education did for me.
And people sometimes don't realize the quality of the instruction
out there. You know, our faculty have PhDs from the
major universities the United States. You're talking University of Tennessee,
North Carolina, Ohio state, I mean from the largest Oregon, Kansas.
I mean, we have the same qualifications PhDs from major

(29:56):
universities that any other place has in this wonderful little
that sits on that hill on San Clairsville, or CODEA
High University Eastern and you can get it for the cost,
you know, a very reasonable price, and it's right here
in your own backyards. And to me, we've served this.
It's I wrote that song for the sixtieth anniversary. We're
like sixty eight now, I think, so that's how many

(30:19):
years ago I wrote that song. But just the same
reasons why people come there.

Speaker 1 (30:24):
I think that song and then the monologue after I
don't know who we got to talk to. Maybe we
gotta get Donielle. That's got to be the ad. That's
got to be the pitch for OUE. You summed it
up perfectly that in that sixth minute or so spin
And I think playing an instrument is kind of a spectrum,
Like I play an instrument, but you know I'm on
one side of the spectrum. You are playing the heck
out of that banjo. That's a great job. I mean,

(30:45):
I couldn't imagine picking all that and and yeah, the
great stuff. Well, and we're glad you could talk to
us this morning. You provide a lot of great insights.
So one last question I guess I will have is
you find that in your goal and vision I would
assume is for OUE to be for students and kids
of this valley. What the University of Maryland was for

(31:08):
you when you were in the military.

Speaker 2 (31:10):
Absolutely, you know, I think I had no idea what
I was getting into. And like I've said before, I
had no sense of I had no self confidence. And
over time is I got each one of those Diplombas
I became more confident in who I was, I developed
better skills. Obviously, knowledge, writing, speaking, all those things were

(31:33):
improved immensely because of professors who helped me do that.
But at a high University Eastern, you can get all
that kind of stuff and you don't need to travel
along ways away, and you don't need to spend a
fortune to do it right. You can stay home and
you can work a job there, and you can come
out with very little debt, if any debt whatsoever going
to college, which is a very rare thing to happen today.
That's true, and we have a lot of scholarship opportunities

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to help those folks.

Speaker 3 (31:55):
Who like me.

Speaker 2 (31:56):
If I'd have known about these things when I didn't
even know what went on. You High University Eastern, you know,
I think it was called Belmont at that time. Yeah,
I had no idea what went on over there because
I didn't know anybody who went to college, but now
I know, and I would like people to know that
this is right here. If you don't know what you're doing,
you don't know where you're going to go next, and
you want to start exploring, what can I be? You know,

(32:19):
come to High University Eastern. We got wonderful staff. I've
been able to listen to them to the last out,
you know, the last month that I've been there. They're
very knowledgeable, they're very dedicated. They really want to see
people excel. That's why we exist.

Speaker 1 (32:32):
Yeah, and they say you don't have to go far
to go far, I think is absolutely.

Speaker 2 (32:36):
Guys like to say absolutely. Yep.

Speaker 1 (32:38):
Well, doctor Greenley, we certainly appreciate your time for everybody here.
Jason Garsick myself, thank you everybody for listening, and have
a great day.

Speaker 3 (33:00):
Don't