Guru Trees on the Move 6-29-25

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Here is award winning remodeling expert Nick Kerzner.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
News Talk eleven thirty DIBs, and it's Nick the Construction Group.
I'm really excited today, really really excited. We got New Meats.
Remember the uh, Greg, do you remember the movie cool Hand?
Luke New Meat, New Meat. So I have Derek Johnson
from and one of my favorite companies to see going
down the road, Trees on the Move. I'm so excited

(00:42):
to have you. Guys are new here. I'm so excited
to have you on.

Speaker 3 (00:44):
Yes, sir, we're excited to be here. Thanks for having us.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
Yeah, absolutely. Hey, tell us a little bit about your company,
because all I really know is I see these big
what looked like cones going down the road with like
a huge elm or oak tree in it, And so
tell us about the company, and I want to get
a little bit of history on how this all started.

Speaker 3 (01:01):
All right, Well, the company started about forty eight years ago.
They were only tree space. That's all they did back then.
Is just move the trees with those big trucks like
you talked about. We still have six or seven of
those trucks. We still definitely do it quite often. We
move a lot of trees, but it is probably the
smaller area of really what we do now.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
Yeah, yeah, I think it's one, but it has it
has the most impact.

Speaker 3 (01:24):
Right, Oh, it definitely does.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
Yeah. Yes, we're not talking little bushes. We're talking major trees.

Speaker 3 (01:29):
Yeah. We're twenty twenty five feet tall, so nice, big
trees looks like they've been there for fifteen twenty years
when you put them into your new house, so really nice. Yeah.
But besides that, now we're mostly commercial. We are Wisconsin's
largest commercial landscape company. We do work all over the place.
We're up in Green Bay, We're in Madison, we're down
here in Milwaukee, pleasant Prairie, just all over the darn place.

(01:52):
We also opened up a new spot down in Chicago.
It's a strictly union company for us, but moving down
there as well. So trees on the movie hes are
tougher than I am. Yeah, yeah, yeah, maybe a little
bit crazier, you know, just keep on going. But Gary Mchughe,
the owner of the company he is. He's just quite
the entrepreneur and he sees something and he likes it

(02:14):
and he goes for it. And that's that's how Trees
has grown to be so big under him. He's rented
for about twenty years.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
Now, you know, Derek, we were talking before the show here,
but I met Gary at the Realtors Show this year
when I was talking with Dean Papedo, the pond Father,
who's a regular on the show here, and he suggested
that I get you guys on because what you do
is really fascinating. So do you do residential landscape too?

Speaker 3 (02:41):
We do. We do quite a bit of residential as well. Yes, Dean,
we work with him fairly often. He's a great guy.
He does beautiful water features and we work really well together.
So that's how Gary and Dean know each other. Is
just constantly doing different residential jobs.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
To you, Are you guys doing a lot of jobs together? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (02:59):
Oh yeah, quite a few, quite a few couple of year.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
That's a feather in your hat and a feather in
his hat at the same time, because I know that
thing's a quality company and a bulch for you guys.
That's great, you know, he said, you guys do great work.
I want to ask, and I know you probably get
sick of answering this question, but tell me about those
those those I don't know what you call them, the

(03:21):
fans that go down and grab a tree out of
the ground.

Speaker 3 (03:23):
Yeah, that's just a tree spade. So we have multiple ones.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
It's just a tree spade.

Speaker 3 (03:29):
Well, it's basically just big four big shovels hydraulically driven
that drive into the ground and they slowly scoop it
up and then you lift it up afterwards. But we
have them for the trucks, we have them for tractors,
we have them for skidloaders. So the trucks are the
biggest ones. They're the ones that do the twenty to
twenty five footers. But then we have the skidloaders and
they'll do you know, two inch tree, so it's ten
feet twelve feet tall somewhere around there. What's the survival

(03:53):
rate on that on the big spade trees. Yeah, oh,
better than the smaller trees really, because you get so
much of the root system with it that it guts.
I'd say it's probably ninety five percent.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
You know. I well, that's pretty good. I was talking
with the guy from Ashepin, the tree company, that I
can't think of him. God, I feel bad because he
does great work. I guess you can narrow it down
because he's the only one out in Ashepin. But it's residentially.
He's a nursery.

Speaker 3 (04:20):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (04:20):
But you know he was telling me that I have
an old oak tree in my yard, and he told
me that that tree in California would be worth hundreds
of thousands of dollars. Is that true?

Speaker 3 (04:32):
Yes, sir, most definitely.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
Wow. So we are blessed here in Wisconsin, aren't we?

Speaker 3 (04:36):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (04:36):
We are ye.

Speaker 3 (04:37):
All the trees, with the woods we have around here,
it's amazing when you go into some of them, how
beautiful those oak trees are.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
It really is. I live on a road called Oakshire,
so it's all old oak trees. I mean, they're hundreds
of years old these because they're huge. Tell me, tell
me now about all the services because you're new here
and I'm kind of new to you guys, so you know,
just kind of go down a list of people are
looking for different things that Trees on the Move does well.

Speaker 3 (05:05):
We actually we offer a lot more than just landscaping.
So We do have our construction crews. We also have
our maintenance crews. But then we have a forestry division
for pruning and cutting trees.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
Wells you guys have we.

Speaker 3 (05:17):
Have about one hundred and seventy employees.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
Holy cow. Yeah, I mean I knew you were big,
but I didn't know you were that big.

Speaker 3 (05:22):
Yeah. Yeah, Like I said, definitely Wisconsin's largest commercial landscaper.
So yeah. And then we also we have our own
concrete division, Next Level Concrete. They do amazing work, stamped concrete,
colored concrete, regular flat work. They do it all residential
and commercial as well. We have our irrigation division, so
anything that we need to get into. We also have

(05:45):
carpenters on the payroll, so we do wood structures as well,
all kinds of stuff like.

Speaker 2 (05:50):
And stuff, sir, Holy cow, big, how do you you know?
I think about what we do. You know, it's a
pretty kitchens, bathrooms, it's I mean, there's a lot of
moving parts. But when you have one hundred and seventy
employees and you have all of this, how do you
guys keep it all together?

Speaker 3 (06:09):
We have a great management team, we really do. You know,
you got to put the right person in charge of
the division and they take it over and foresee it
and everything goes pretty darn good.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
So now if one of the listeners is thinking, okay,
I know that there's a lot of people that have
bought houses on farm fields. Okay, and you know everything
is there because it's been planted, but it's all little
and you've got this great, big house and you got
these little stub trees around. If somebody wanted to put,
say a big oak or a big maple tree in back,
what's the process for you guys to do that?

Speaker 3 (06:38):
Well, so we come out and we take a look
at the job with them. It depends on what they're
looking for. But we have designers that come out and
do a full design.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
So they do you have a full design department too, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (06:49):
We have landscape architects, three landscape architects on staff, and
then two designers.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
You guys need to change your names.

Speaker 3 (06:56):
But you know it's actually been talked about because you
hear trees the movie. You don't know everything we do, and.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
In and of itself, it's very impressive because when you think, okay,
I can I have no idea what it costs. But
when you can put a full grown tree in your
yard in a matter of hours, right right, that's a
big deal. It really, in and of itself is a
big deal. But now you're talking about some other major stuff.

Speaker 3 (07:17):
Yeah. But and the thing with the Trees on the
Move is it's already so recognized that it would be
way too late to change it. We would never want
to give up that reputation.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
But I'm just thinking, if you have a designed landscape
design division, yes, you're obviously working in concert with water features.

Speaker 3 (07:32):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
So I know I did look at your website. It's
a pretty extensive website. Yeah, it's almost exhausting. There's there's
so much on there.

Speaker 3 (07:40):
Actually just got revamped, did.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
It, yes, sir. And so you know, somebody buys a
house on the postage stamp that was a farm field,
and you know there's some beautiful houses going up, but
there's there's no foliage, right right, So how does that start?
They call up Trees on the Move.

Speaker 3 (07:56):
They call us up. Actually a lot of the time
before the house is even built. They'll call us up
and go out there, look at the land before the
house is built, share our vision with them, get it
down on paper. Then we come back for another meeting.
They take a look at it. If they like it great.
If we want to make changes, then we make the changes.
It usually takes three or four meetings on a new

(08:16):
residence to get everything exactly how the homeowner wants it,
and then we just start implementing it.

Speaker 2 (08:22):
Where do you so if I want an oak tree,
where do you do? I have to find it? Or
do you find it? No, we find it, you find.

Speaker 3 (08:28):
We have our own nurseries, so most of the spade
trees come from our nurse nurseries.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
Okay, I've seen some big trees.

Speaker 3 (08:34):
Oh yeah, most definitely. We also go to there's a
couple of conservancies that we are allowed to choose from,
and there's some other nurseries we go to.

Speaker 2 (08:40):
Everyone. People ever call you and say, hey, I want this.
You know it's a healthy tree, I want it out
of the way. I'm going to be building the garage.
You could all the time, really all the time.

Speaker 3 (08:47):
We'll move trees on property for various reasons. So we
just did one up in Mechwon where we moved I
believe twenty trees on property.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
So how long does that take?

Speaker 3 (08:58):
Depending on how far you're moving in and how big
the tree is and how awkward it is to get
the truck because there's some times where you're pretty tight
in there, and if it's sitting on an angle and
you have to try to get it straight for him,
I would say, anywhere from twenty minutes to two hours
per tree.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
Wow, And that's got to be They got to know
what they're doing. Yes, these are professionals.

Speaker 3 (09:16):
Oh you have to be an artist to be able
to get this exactly what.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
Dean always says. Yes, yeah, Dean actually takes his people
out to look at waterfalls and nature and streams, and
you know, I think they're the best in the business.
They definitely a lot of them. And the fact that you,
you know, you guys work together as testament to both
of you. So the process is I call you up,
I say, hey, I have a new build here. Your

(09:40):
designer is going to come out. Yep, they're going to
spend some time. Two or three. That's kind of same
with us. Three seems to be a charm, Yes, sir, Okay,
what's the next step.

Speaker 3 (09:49):
The next step is we call the hot line in
we uh after the house is finally built, we wait
until everything's done, we come in. We do our concrete first,
then we do our irrigation. After the grating and everything's done,
and then we'll come in get all the hard scapes.

Speaker 2 (10:03):
It's amazing to me that you guys do all of this.

Speaker 3 (10:05):
Yeah, it's not subcontracted, No, nothing subcontract Okay, everything's in house.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (10:11):
After the grading and the irrigation, we do the hard scapes,
all their patio's walls have Dean come in if they
want a water feature. And then we move on into
the soft scape.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
Just put the lawns into we sure do you sod
seed whatever you are busy.

Speaker 3 (10:24):
We're so busy, it's particulous. It's amazing. And the arrange
helping you right, the rain it helps, but it hinders
because so the maintenance people love it because it keeps
everything flourishing for him. But I'm on the construction side,
so it's a it's a pain for me because it
just makes for a muddy job site and you can't
get stuff done.

Speaker 2 (10:41):
So on the construction side, you say, tell me what
the construction side, what is your function there?

Speaker 3 (10:45):
So I'm the senior project manager. I actually do I
do some residential. I used to do all of our residential,
but we hired a new guy to take over the
residential division. So I work in Madison and I do
all of our green roopes. That is the up and
coming thing for trees on the move is green roofs
and blue roofs. We've been doing those. I'm doing one

(11:06):
in Green Bay right now, I'm doing two in Madison,
and I'm doing two in Milwaukee all right now as
we speak.

Speaker 2 (11:11):
Okay, so indulge me here. What's a green roof? Blue?

Speaker 3 (11:15):
So there's different styles. Some green roofs are only you know,
just the greenery. So they have like seed them matting
down so you get your green points. It helps the earth,
you get the oxygen and everything. Where cities are you
don't have enough plant life, so especially Madison.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
So like if I see a tower and it's got
greenery up there, that's what you're talking about, Yes, sir.

Speaker 3 (11:35):
God, exactly exactly. But then you also have all these
new apartments. These new apartment buildings have amenity decks and
on the fifteenth floor you'll have a swimming pool, a
hot tub, three fire pits, four grill station.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
You said amenity decks. I've never lived in an apartment
that even had a deck. So cool, Hey, Derek, we're
gonna take it. We got to take a break because
we've got to pay for the show. But when we
come back, this is fascinating. I'm gonna roll with this
as much as we can with I'm going to be
all over the board because you're right, You're you're new
to me and I love talking about this. So we
will return after these messages on news Talk eleven thirty

(12:08):
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(12:29):
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you're just tuning in. I have a fascinating guest here today.

(12:52):
I kind of knew who these guys were and what
they did, but I met them at the Realtors Show
this year and Dean Pepedo, the pond Father himself, introduced
me to the owner, who's Gary. Gary's not with us today,
but I have Derek here, who is one of the
head honchos over at Trees on the Move. And if
if you weren't listening to the first segment, I'm fascinated
by all. Your name does not tell your story, and

(13:15):
we've talked about that, but we were talking about some
of these I've seen these buildings where you know, on
the top floors you have all of this stuff growing.
I assumed it was all in pots, but that's not
the case.

Speaker 3 (13:28):
No serious special soil called media and it's basically composed
and some lightweight aggregate. It weighs a quarter of how
much regular soil weighs, so that's why it works great
for rep tops.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
So you don't have to have special engineering to do this.

Speaker 3 (13:45):
No, it's already the I mean they still look at
the building. Engineer still looks at to make sure we're
within the weight limits and everything, so that is still
has way outside my pay.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
Grade, man, yeah, way outside my pay grade.

Speaker 3 (13:57):
Yes, But the systems like pedestals and pavers, they get
rid of all that weight because we don't put a
gravel underneath it anymore. It's a plastic pedestal that the
paver sits on, so they really reduce a lot of
the weights to make sure all this stuff can go
up on the rooftops.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
Is there any type of farming going on on rooftops
and things like that.

Speaker 3 (14:17):
I mean vegetable gardens for sure.

Speaker 2 (14:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (14:19):
Yeah, there's a lot of senior living that now has
amenity decks and we will put in garden plots for
them so that way they can still have their gardens
and everything outside their apartments.

Speaker 2 (14:29):
Fascinating.

Speaker 3 (14:29):
Yeah, it's really neat.

Speaker 2 (14:30):
What about shoreline stuff? You guys do that too, every
once in a while, not too long A big call. Okay,
what's your what's your biggest call? Is it trees or
is it.

Speaker 3 (14:40):
Really I would think that our biggest call is the
bigger apartment buildings going in, So we do a lot
of work for the bigger gcs that do these huge
apartment complexes all over the place. And that would be
our biggest.

Speaker 2 (14:53):
So for for most of our listeners on this show,
I believe our homeowners. Yes, sir, from a residential standpoint,
is that a good fit for trees on the Move? Oh?

Speaker 3 (15:07):
It most definitely is. For residential. We do everything as
far as small jobs from you know, just adding a
bed in for somebody, or complete makeovers where they had
seat walls and patios and everything in there, and we
come in and we tear everything out and we start
fresh new driveway, new sidewalks, new everything, or just new construction.

(15:27):
I would say the majority of our residential is new construction,
people that just want to make the house themselves.

Speaker 2 (15:33):
Do you do residential landscape maintenance?

Speaker 3 (15:36):
Unfortunately on that one, we don't really do that.

Speaker 2 (15:39):
No, all right, but you'll do landscape revamps, right, yes, sir?
Okay for sure. Adding you know, one of the things
that is it expensive to move a tree? I got
to ask you that. I know it's subjective, you don't
I'm not looking for numbers, but right, you know, I
don't know how else you get a mature tree in

(15:59):
the you just you know, I plant the tree. By
the time I'm sixty, it's big enough that I can't
trim it anymore, right, Yes, So you know when you
all of a sudden don't have a tree in the
next day, there is one. There is that an expensive proposition.

Speaker 3 (16:13):
To be honest, for what you're getting. I don't think
it's very expensive at all moving trees on site. Like
if your neighbor has a tree, doesn't want it anymore,
and you're like, this beautiful tree, I want it, it's
really cheap, to be honest. Okay, buying a tree from
us is a price expensive. It's the tree that's expensive
because it took us twenty thirty years to grow it
and it takes up that much land. So when you

(16:35):
go buy a two inch tree, which is what the
size most people get, it's only in the ground five
or six years. It's not too bad, so it's a
lot cheaper. But when you have something that's been there
twenty years, it takes.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
A survival rate on the mature trees is bigger than
the one than the young ones.

Speaker 3 (16:48):
I'm asking, Yes, it's a little bit better. And like
I said, I think we're ninety five ninety at the worst.
But the majority of our spade trees, they're beautiful.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
The next year Okay, how many people have a tree moved?
And the reason I ask you this because it's it's
fascinating to me to learn, like with Dean you know
in the water features and I use that because we
both know him. But it starts out with a small one.
All right, See you got tats, you know, you start
probably started out with a small one, and then all
of a sudden it keeps you know, right, it's the

(17:18):
same old, same old. So how many people start like
with one tree and then keep on that?

Speaker 3 (17:25):
A lot a lot of people. It's amazing, yes, yeah,
and not only on the trees, just on all their
landscaping in general. So they'll have us come do one
spot and oh this is beautiful, we love it, and
we'll wind up doing eight phases and working for him
for ten years.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
So so, and that was going to be my next question.
You kind of answered it. If if somebody does a
landscape design with you and they find that, you know,
we love it, but it's it's beyond our budget. You
can do it in phases.

Speaker 3 (17:50):
It's most definitely we do that for most people.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
Have a good friend, I don't do you know. David
Peckell from Peckle Construction I sure don't. He's a good
good friend of mine, and he always says, you know,
remodeling is kind only a pizza, so you don't have
to eat it all at once. Yes, And I think
it's kind of the same with with what you guys do.
So you can have a five year, ten year plan.

Speaker 3 (18:08):
Right most definitely.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (18:09):
Do you get a lot of that. We get a
whole lot of that. Yeah, Because everybody wants their home
to be exactly how they want it. They want to
be able to relax and do all the different things.
But it is expensive, so and you also have life
that gets in the way. And sometimes you'll be ready
to do one hundred thousand dollars remodel on your landscaping,
but something comes up and now you can only afford
twenty thousand. And our designers will go through and talk

(18:32):
with you about what's most important to you and narrow
it down and get it to what you really need
at the time, and then come back in the next
year and do some more.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
How long have you been doing the strek.

Speaker 3 (18:41):
I've been doing it since I was thirteen. I started
mowing lawns and it's the only thing I've ever done.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
Okay, so you know, you probably you're you're younger than
I am. But my guess is you probably see the
same thing I see. Is that because you use the
number one hundred thousand. And I talked about this on
the show last week. I looked at an ad not
so long ago. That was an old ad out of
the newspaper for I think it was a nineteen seventy

(19:07):
one Corvette. Okay, it was just fascinating looking through these
old papers and it was like six thousand dollars. Good
friend of mine, Jim Palo over at Bouchet Chevy, they
had a E ray, which is the electric gas version YEP,
one hundred and fifty grand used. Oh my goodness. Okay,

(19:27):
So when you look at that and you brought up
one hundred thousand dollars, one hundred thousand dollars today, just
isn't it's hard to make it. Don't get me wrong.
It's a lot of money. It's not a lot of money.
When you're doing remodeling and landscaping. You can go through
that in a heartbeat, right.

Speaker 3 (19:42):
You really can. It really depends on what you're looking for, though,
because there are if you do it the correct way
and you choose the correct materials, because the materials is
what always gets you, you know. Even in regular construction, you
can buy the five dollars a foot sighting or you
can buy the fifty dollars foot site.

Speaker 2 (19:58):
Yeah, but and I'm not I just want to mention this.
It's the labor too, because you can have the fifteen
dollars an hour guy or the sixty dollars an hour guy.
And the difference is at working and not right, yes, yes, so,
I mean the labor is and experience is important and
good and as this you're a manager. Management is so important,
you know, because you're the one that has to make

(20:20):
sure that they're doing what they're supposed to be doing
when they're I know, there's people you can you can
walk away from and they just keep doing their job.
But the lion's share of labor today has to be managed.
And I hate to say that. It's not like in
the old days, you know.

Speaker 3 (20:32):
I agree.

Speaker 2 (20:32):
How old are you?

Speaker 3 (20:33):
Fifty one?

Speaker 2 (20:34):
Fifty one? So back in the day, your dad was
probably like my in the summers, I went worked with
my father, I got my buddies and all that were
screwing around. Well, I was working, okay, that was what
they taught you. Yes, yes, sir, it kind of sticks.
It kind of sticks.

Speaker 3 (20:49):
It does most definitely. We actually, uh, I have a
fourteen and twelve year old son and they are starting
to work with me at Trees on the Move this year.
So we're going to continue it on.

Speaker 2 (20:58):
And you know what, AI is never going to be
able to replace you. Yeah, certainly not in our life,
right I hope not. I hope not. Why don't you
where we are for time? Five minutes? Okay, we can
keep going here. I'm excited. This is going This is
going fast because this is new stuff to me. So
the thing is when your guys come out and you're

(21:19):
formulating a plan, I assume with that amount of people,
in that amount of management, that amount of time in
the business, that you guys can get a project done
much faster than the smaller concerns.

Speaker 3 (21:29):
Oh, yes, for sure. And it really depends on when
you come in to start your project. So there's a
lot of people that in June will think I want
to get this done this summer. Still, well, you started
too late. If you think you're going to want something
done that summer, you really should start in February. Get
in there, get on the schedule before because come May,
everybody's thinking about landscaping and they want to get in

(21:49):
there and get it.

Speaker 2 (21:50):
Derek, you know what the problem is, don't you. What's
that Amazon?

Speaker 3 (21:53):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (21:54):
Yeah, that's the problem with everything because they have created
this mindset that I always tell this story I used
to you know, I work with a lot of old motorcycles,
and you look for parts. You don't have to go
to a swap meat at State Fair and you'd work
with some guy who's wearing a vest head hair down
to his ankles and you know, hey, you got a
carburetor for a forty seven pan head. Yeah, I think

(22:15):
so digging that box over there. Today, you go on Amazon,
it's there, the parts there, and you don't even you're
not even planning on putting on till a weekend, and
it's on your doorstep the next day. And this has
trained people to have no patience with anything.

Speaker 3 (22:27):
Right, That's true. But I will say that's one great
thing about Trees on the Move. With being as big
as we are with one hundred and seventy employees, if
we do get the client that says, hey, I really
messed up. I need this done next month and I
should have called you three months ago. We have the
manpower to make.

Speaker 2 (22:42):
It happen, so you can do it. You can do
kind of on demand.

Speaker 3 (22:45):
Yeah, if you're in a bind, we can definitely. We
don't want to do that all the time. Every once
in a while, it happens, and we know, life gets
in the way.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
It's well, it's got to be stressful for you guys too.
I mean you put some plans and like today, you're
looking out there and you don't know if it's going
to rain or not, and you know, then all of
a sudden, soil turns to mud and that's got to
be hard to work with.

Speaker 3 (23:04):
It is. Then you just have to switch the crews
up concrete.

Speaker 2 (23:08):
It's a nightmare. Yes, I have a couple of really
good friends in the concrete business. As a matter of fact,
one of them's a guest on here, Tommy from Lake Country,
and he, uh, you know, I'll go to breakfast and
I can just see the stress in him because he
has scheduled something and he goes, I got a forty
percent chance of rain, he says, I get it in
the ground, it starts. I can't get it covered.

Speaker 3 (23:25):
Fast enough, right, right, yeah, and the customer.

Speaker 2 (23:27):
Doesn't want to see their surface bad. They want their concrete,
but they don't want to see the surface. Yes, you know,
especially with stamped is another one saying.

Speaker 3 (23:34):
Right, and you really can't cover the stamped right away
because it'll mess it all up.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
So yeah, it's super careful. I mean there's a lot
of stress in your businesses.

Speaker 3 (23:41):
Oh there is definitely.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
So so start in February, get your planned on uh February,
probably March, and then you get on the schedule, right,
yes sir? All right. Cool. So if somebody wants to
get a hold of you, Derek, how do they do that?

Speaker 3 (23:53):
Just look us up on the web or give us
give us a website. It is trees on themove dot com.

Speaker 2 (23:58):
Well that's easy enough, yes sir. And then if somebody
wants to call and make an appointment to have you
can just you can just do a design. You don't
have to commit to the whole thing, right, you can
commit that just the design. Does that work?

Speaker 3 (24:10):
Yes you can. Well, so you can't commit to just
the design, but with Trees on the Move, the design
is free once we do the work for Oh okay,
so if you have us do the work then the
design's free. If you don't have us do the work,
then you're going to pay for this.

Speaker 2 (24:21):
Yeah, well that's fair. Yeah. Anybody thinks it isn't fair,
don't do business with them.

Speaker 3 (24:25):
That's what I always say, yes, sir.

Speaker 2 (24:28):
And to get a hold of you guys by some people,
believe it or not, I'm on a board of directors
of a condo association. There are people that don't are
not on the web. I can't believe it. My dad's
ninety two, he's on the web. Yes, yeah, you know
how to do it right.

Speaker 3 (24:41):
Okay, Well, I'm sure everybody's heard the jingle. It's on there,
but in case you don't know it, it is two
six two six seven fifty two hundred Derek.

Speaker 2 (24:49):
Thanks for coming in on a Sunday spending some time
with Guru. I hope. Well, we are going to have
you guys on again. I have you scheduled in the future.
I don't know if it's going to be you or Dairy,
but yeah, this will tone down and make sense the
shows as time goes on. I'm just rambling because I'm
fascinated by your business.

Speaker 3 (25:04):
That's new to me in it's so cool, so right,
and there's so many aspects of it. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (25:08):
Yeah, So thank you so much for coming in on Sunday.
I appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (25:10):
You bet, thank you very much for having us.

Speaker 2 (25:12):
All Right, we'll see you again next week on News
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