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Speaker 1 (00:00):
When you need wisdom and advice. Seek out a guru when.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
You need wisdom and advice about remodeling and design. Lock
on and listen right now to Nick the Construction Guru.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Here is award winning remodeling expert Nick Kerzner.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
US Talk eleven thirty w isn It's Nick the construction
Guru here today. Whether have you been on here a
few times lately? Now? We must really like you somewhere
along the line. Huh, at least somebody does, Nick, someone does.
I have the uh. I would say you're probably the
light father and the garage father now, and Dean's the
pond father.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
I just talked to Dean yesterday. Fact. Yeah, I gotta
work on a project with him.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
And that's you know, That's what's what's funny about so
many of the guests on the show. We all work together,
you know, we work with you, you work with us. We've
all done projects together and it's a cool little network.
But I have Kevin Hunt with me from Premier your garage,
world class outdoor lighting. You are truly an entrepreneur. You
have a lot of businesses.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Well, A lot of people don't know the story about
Premier Garage but there's a gentleman that was at the
show and his name was Brian Herring. He did my
floor and we really liked it, and he was struggling
a little bit. So we ended up acquiring Premier Garage
and and they split that into two categories, so we
got Premier Garage and then the tailor closet. So it's
a full organizational company. My office is not.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Well, you have the infrastructure for it, you do. It's
all similar, right, kind of similar. I mean it's you
your warehousing stuff, you have logistic logistics in line, and
you have your your your crews in your in your truck.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
So the biggest thing is it's yeah, the biggest thing
is and you know this, Nick, the customers are kind
of the same customer base too. You know, I'm dealing
with uh, you know, a little bit more affluent customers Heartland, Mechwan,
you know, Whitefish based Orwood Lake Country, the whole Lake Country, Muskigo,
and you know customers that you know are doing their
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lighting sometimes they want the garage floor, so I'm there
to help them out.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Yeah. Yeah, it's a good it's a good it's a
good construct that works well. So Premiere garage. Tell us
a little bit about Premier garage. What exactly do you
guys do? I mean, I know, but.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
We do uh well, yeah, it's a funny guy, nick.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
We do a POxy garage floors and uh, we do
a lot of organization in garages. We do store wall.
You can hang stuff on there. We did a really
nice project last year in.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
A boat house.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
We did uh, you know, the boat house floor and
then we did store wall on all the walls. They
could uh you know, they can put all their boards
and stuff on there, and it really, uh, it really
was nice and I realized how strong store wall is too.
You can hang a lot of stuff on there. We
also do a lot of garage cabinets. We have a
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small showroom for people to look at. Aaron comes out
there and designs everything on a special program that we have.
You'll give you a couple of different designs and we
kind of go from there.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
It's I've had the pleasure of a meeting and working
with Aaron and I never realized, you know, when you
talk about a remodeling project or you always think that's
a bigger project, But the garages today, it's really become
garages used to be to part cars, right, I mean
now it's like hockey equipment, Christmas stuff, storage tools, workshops,
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craft shops, all kinds of things going on. And you
know that twenty four y thirty garage the average garage, right,
If it's maybe actually twenty four by twenty four, isn't
it probably average?
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (03:47):
So what happens I think to many people. And the
reason I know this is because what are you laughing about?
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Is that a life fuller time?
Speaker 2 (03:57):
You're just I have.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
I swear to god, Nick's got a life alert on
his chat.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
No. Actually, what this is I find this to be
very helpful. It's applaud. It's uh Ai recording device that
does when I go on with customers, I tell them
this takes all my notes for me and then I
can transcribe everything that we talked about so we don't
miss anything. It works very well. So but thanks for
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pointing that out. I always I always like to be
the brunt of your your humor. But anyway, what I was.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Talking, well, it's not as funny as what the people
can't actually see it.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
So I just I looked at that.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
I just had a nice elderly customer yesterday that had one,
and a lot of older people don't like wearing them.
So I said, you know, it's really nice that you
wear that because of a stigma, stigma attached to it. You,
on the other hand, browse in here with one on.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
I thought, yeah, so thanks, thanks for pointing that out, Kevin.
So where were we We were talking.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
About wheelchairs and garage, talking.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
About I think more and more people when you, at
least in my experience, I go to somebody's house normally,
I'm just going to say more more more often than not,
the garage is in complete disarray because it's the dumping
ground where you drop you know, the canned can sodas
that you pick up for the month. It's where you
drop the boxes from Amazon, and it gets very, very disorganized.
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One of the things that you know, working with Aaron
it was amazing because she has something for everything. If
you got if you're a tennis plan, you got tennis ball,
She's got a basket to go on, a slat wall
for your tennis bulls. Everything is completely organized and she
is able to basically take your lifestyle and match it
to your garage storage needs. And the other thing that
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amazed me about this, and I've said this often on
the show with you is It. It's amazing to me
how much space is in a garage that we don't utilize.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Right one hundred percent what a lot of people do.
They got graduation parties, pull the cars out of people,
put a TV in there, and you pretty much got
a version of a basement, except it's upstairs and it's
very convenient for people to entertain out of. I got
a brother in law. Every year we have Christmas in
the garage. He pulls his cars out, puts some tables
in there. We got a TV. It's heated, it's really nice.
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It's very comfortable. Aaron I think is she's been working
with us over well over five years, and she's very
good at what she does. You know, you know this, Nick.
If somebody just designs cabinets and closets and she does
a lot of interior closets too, and they don't bounce around,
they become very.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Very good at that job. And that's where she is
right now.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Well, the closet stuff is amazing. I just had a
condo in o'conwalk this morning. I'm going to be doing
some work for a Gail and she has a huge
closet and there's like these, you know, the wire shelves
that you get at the big box bowling wire. Yeah,
And you know I said to her, I said, you know,
I got just the guy when you move in here
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to take care of your closet for you. And if he,
if he doesn't work out, I'll probably call you guys.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
So you're a funny guy. And that life alert is
going to go off in about two seconds. It's gonna
go off.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
But no, I mean everything that you got, trouser hangers,
you got, belt belt holders, you got, I mean, name
off some of the stuff that people I've seen hampers,
a lot of shoes.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
People love their shoes organized. And then we have jewelry drawers,
we got place you can put a gun. There's just
all sorts of different stuff they have with this.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Go through some of it, talk about it.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
I mean I I ended up getting one from first
hand experience. I got my wife a closet for Christmas.
I don't know, it's probably five years ago, believe it
or not. It was the most thoughtful gift I've ever
gotten her. And it sounds stupid, but she really liked it.
We took all her clothes out fishing pools. That's the
weirdest thing. No, No, you know that boat that I
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bought her that year, turns out she doesn't like water.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
How is I supposed to know, I've only been married
thirty eight years. Oh but uh.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
You know, you get all the all the stuff purged out,
and then you know, you reorganize your closet with everything
that was there. And she had some drawers in her
old closet she had, uh you know, just pull them wire.
And then I had my closet done too. All my
shoes are organized. We have some lighting on them.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
How long don't you have your closet done?
Speaker 3 (08:25):
I would say it was probably five years or.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Five years of them.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
If we walked in there today, is it's still.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Very organized, highly organized?
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Yeah, because that's what happens when you have a place
for everything. Everything ends up in its place. It works.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
I can tell you this much. It doesn't look like
your garage.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
No, No, my garage is busy.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
I know.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Yeah it's busy.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
There's a lot a lot of projects going on in there.
But but there are case in point. You know, if
you I know a lot of guys that have race
cars that they work on them themselves. I know a
lot of guys with motorcycles that work on them themselves.
And then there's the occasional project where washer draws or something.
I fix my own stuff. I'm sure you do too,
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So you know, I have a lift in the garage
and all that kind of stuff. But you keep accumulating things,
and I'm one of these people. I like to save stuff.
I reclaim a lot of stuff. I'm not quite a hoarder,
but on borderline, right, because a minute I throw something out,
I need it. So I have you know, old steel brackets,
all kinds of things in buckets. So I call them
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the wonder buckets where you go, hey, I wonder if
I have one of these? You dump the bucket on
the floor and you have one, right, But there's ways
to organize that so that it's a little bit looks
a little nicer. And that's kind of where you guys
come in.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Yeah, Erin will come in.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
She you know, like anything. You know how important it is.
We call it pinging. You listen to people and.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Their needs and stuff.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
I got my life alert.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
I know that's a special thing there, Nick and life
alerts are very important for people I just didn't think
you were to that point yet. But as far as
that goes, eron'll come here. How she to what you
need and she's on the cutting edge of all the
new storage techniques and everything through the Tailor Closet and
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Premiere Garage, so she's kind of caught up on everything.
The software is really good. Comes out, you'll have a
visualization of you know, what you're looking at via email. Yeah,
they're they're pretty nice. I like them a lot. You
usually get one or two and then she'll work with
you after that. But uh, you know, we do a
lot of uh we do a lot of new construction,
and we also do a lot of you know, people
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that got polling wire, which is pretty common. You don't
have a lot of money when you're building your house,
so you skimp a little bit there, and then they
come back in a couple of years and they'll work
with us.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
And that's where Aaron comes in.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
How many how many closets would you say you do
a month?
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Boy, I honestly, I don't know, but.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
It's people are realizing that this is the way to
go with the closets. You know.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
The one thing that's kind of surprising and it surprises
even me is the amount of people that are driven
by their garages, you know, whether it's the garage floor,
the cabinets. It's just a trend that's really really pushing forward.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Well, like I said, it's not a place to just
park anymore. Hey, when we come back, let's talk a
little bit about the epoxy floors, because there's a lot
of noise going on about that. I want to talk
to you about that. And then I always like to
talk to you about the lighting because I'm fascinated by
that aspect of your business. I think the outdoor lighting
is so cool. So let's introduce some of those things
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when we come back from break. Okay, all right, News
Talk eleven thirty WISN. We will return after these messages.
News Talk eleven thirty W. In returning from break, it's
Nick the construction Guru. Listen if you're thinking about a
remodeling project. If it's a call, we can help you
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is the only company in Wisconsin to win a Better
Business Bureau Torch Award for Ethics and Integrity three times
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in our industry.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
How much did that cost you?
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Actually, it's a really it's one of our nicest pieces.
It's a crystal glass, very nice piece. It didn't cost me. Well,
I guess my I'm being a member of the Better
Business Bureau for as long as I have, I guess.
But yeah, these are you know, unlike the awards and
your business, Kevin, these aren't awards you can purchase. You
actually have to win them.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
So I just.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
This is the great show, eh yeah. Also yeah yeah,
and then we go. You know, it's really fun after
this because we usually go for breakfast and then we
fight about the bill. Right in George Web they actually.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Speaking of that. I never eat breakfast. I was shocked
at how much that breakfast was. Oh, I know, I'd
just rather have dinner.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Well, you know, it's expensive to eat out now, there's
no two ways about it. I think, Well, everything's going up,
you know that. I mean, look at your business, look
at my business. You know, we both been we're fossils
in this business. I've been around forever, so we've seen
when it was low and now we see when it's
I was looking at an ad the other day for
a Corvette. I think it was seventy one or something,
six thousand dollars corvette. Today you walk in, it's one
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hundred and fifty grand to get the right one, right,
that's the best they have. Yeah, yeah, but I mean
one hundred and fifty grand, So one hundred and fifty
thousand dollars. Although it's difficult to earn it, it's very
easy to spend it. And spending one hundred and fifty
thousand dollars on an item doesn't really make you the
man either, because it's like it's just kind of average.
I mean, I used pickup truck is sixty seventy thousand
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dollars today you know that. Look at the you go
to buy trucks. How much is it to wrap a
truck today?
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Oh, we don't.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
We cut down on our wraps, I know quite a
bit just because of how expensive it was. But get
that grand, yeah, to get a truck wrap you're probably
at Yeah, I mean it's probably good, i'd say complete wrap.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
Yeah, you're probably right.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Yeah. So, I mean it's it's very expensive to do
business today. So you know, that's why I tell people
when you're dealing with especially with contracting, you know, in Arizona,
I'm not I don't have my my contacts like I
do here. And I'll tell you what I feel for
homeowners that are trying to find a contractor because there's
so many out there that have no business being in
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this business.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
Tommy ran into a problem. Huh, Tommy Elliota ran into
the problem. What was that down in Arizona? The guy standing, oh.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Yeah, yeah, when he had yeah, they painted his door
shut and that I mean it was terrible.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Yeah, he couldn't even open up his doors.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Yeah, and then he has all this he has all
this landscape lighting that these guys did and they got
paint all over his What are those copper and brass fixtures?
I mean there, that's some heavy duty stuff, And I'm like,
what's going on? You know? So, I mean it is,
it's a weird. It's a weird industry. If you're if
you don't know it, you have to know who you're
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looking for and things like that. So I mean, you know,
you have to or repeat customers. You have tons of
references that people can talk to. But these new guys
start now, even if they're legit, I feel bad for
them because it's hard. I mean, people are really looking
at what's going on. They're looking at reviews. I have
an HOA in Arizona, and if I if I had,
I could do a whole show on just that how
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ignorant people are too contracting and stuff like that. So yeah,
I mean it's important to deal with the company that's
been around and proven, and that brings me to world class.
So we met how many years ago?
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Twenty four?
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Yeah, I know you're both. Our hairs were not gray
like they are now, which is interesting. And I think
I traded you some countertops for some outdoor lighting.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Yeah. I still have the countertown, I.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Still have the outdoor lighting.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Man, it's perfect. But you know, the match made in heaven.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
That's the thing that tell us a little bit about
world class. I love it. You guys have such a
cool website. You have drone fly throughs on some of
these houses. I think that for most people, outdoor lighting
was something that you used to see on Lake Drive.
You used to see on big multimillion dollar homes, and
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it was I always thought it was very cool the
way they were shadowed and the way it's done. You
guys have basically made it affordable for anybody can have
outdoor lighting. Now, yeah, it's affordable.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
I'll take you through the evolution real quick of outdoor lighting.
When we started in the Yellow Pages, that used to
be something that used to be something that you had
to look phone numbers up on. But in the Yellow
Pages there wasn't even a category for outdoor lighting, and
so there wasn't a lot of it. People used to
love it ambiance, you know, get the backyard, it looks great.
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And then you know, things evolved into rather rapidly into security.
They want lighting because they don't want their backyard dark.
A lot of people when they break into homes don't
know this, but the people that are going to break
in go to the back yards and they'll get through
that way. And then, uh, you know, they want some
curb appeal to on the outside. And then you know,
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we went from halogens to LEDs that uh you know
took twenty watte hologenvolved down to a two watt led, uh,
thirty five watt hologenvolved down to five watts of power.
So so then we started, yeah, one hundred energy wise
and longevity too, right, longevity is a lot better. The
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colors are really good. And then we, uh, you know,
we started using a lot of photo eyes more solely
last two years just because it's Missus Jones would want
the lights off at midnight. A lot of it was
maybe to save a little bit of money, I don't know.
And now it's so affordable you can run them dust
to dawn. It's more important to do that now than
ever with you know, criminals.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
And then, uh, what we.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Started doing a little bit last year and and this
is easy for the homeowners to do. But where the
ring cameras are, we like to put those where they're
there's floodlights in the backyard. You can just exchange the
flood lights out and put a ring camera in there.
Real simple and easy to do. And your floodlights are
usually on the corners, which is exactly where you want
a security camera. So it's an easy way to add
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a little bit of security and safety to your property. Also,
so you can see that I kind of kind of
do both. You know, you got to blend the two together,
and that's what kind of that's what this industry. It's
not even kind of that's what the industry became. So
we kind of pioneered this industry from the get go.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
You know.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
Obviously now there's a little bit more competition. And the
same happened with the garage floors. We were one of
the first companies to do a POxy garage floors.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
In this market.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
When COVID hit and people decided that, you know, they
were going to stay home more. Did you see a
big influx in outdoor lighting during COVID.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
There's an influx and everything during COVID, even COVID.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
It's just.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
Look like a brick wall. Yeah, but I mean people
are staying on their their backyard. They wanted to add
a lot of stuff back there. They realized, you know what,
I don't like this garager. I don't want the you know,
their pursing their closets. That was the other one night.
I'll never forget the long lines to donate stuff at
like Goodwill and stuff. It was like, I'm like, what's
going on here? And there's like literally at Saint Vincent's DePaul. Yeah,
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there's lines that were three or four blocks long. Everybody,
and not to interrupt you, Nick, but everybody. It's amazing
how everybody has the same idea at the same time,
always just.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
About yeah it is. And you know, one of the
one of the other things I see with you know,
when I did my outdoor lighting, all of a sudden
I saw neighbors starting to do outdoor lighting. I don't
think it was for security purpose as much as it
is you know, the house at night when it's lit
off and you can create that scene like you talk
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about where you layer lighting and stuff like that. It
just is such a cool It's kind of like as
a kid when I went to floor to you know,
we went to Florida and there's that I forget. In Orlando,
there's that. I'm sure some of the listeners are going
to know what I'm talking about. There's this boulevard with
the palm trees and all the hotels are lit up
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and they light up the different palm trees. It's just
such a cool thing. And when you can do that
at your house. You know, we I talked about it
a number of times on a number of shows, but
when we did up North, you know, we're way up
in the woods when you came and did all your lighting.
It's just so cool at night because you focus in
on different trees and you focus in on different aspects
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of the environment that you don't see during the day
because it kind of gets lost in a in a
big collage of things. But you can focus emphasis on
water features, you can focus emphasis on you know, if
you put outdoor lighting around the deck, on the railings,
it's it's really cool from both the deck and outside
because it just shows the structure and all of that.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
So it's it's amazing. And I forget this sometimes. I
was just on a property a couple of days ago,
and every once in a while you run into a
one hundred.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Year old oak tree.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
Well, this guy had like three of them on his property,
and what we're going to do with those? And you
don't have a lot of opportunities to do this, but
you can get up into that canopy and you can
shoot lights up there. You know, a good oak tree,
you're looking at five or six fixtures up there. It's
super unique and it looks absolute.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Yeah, because you've done that.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Yeah, that's this.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
And it's hard because the customer they really have to
trust you because it's like, where can I go see this? Well,
most of the properties you got to go up a
driveway and into a back riage to see it unless
you drive by my house. I have a Locus street
that's done that looks really good.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
I don't know if you're still doing it, but I
mean when you did it for me, you kind of
laid it out late afternoon and then lit it up
and it was like the wires were still not underground yet.
I don't know if you remember that, but you said
you set my whole house up before you buried anything,
and said, if you want to move something, and you
know I would have done it like everybody else was
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doing it. Then you put all the lights in a
row on the path, and you know you can always
tell an amateur job, right.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
Well, it's hard because you know, people go on the
internet and they think they you know, this is the
way I want this, and I want this like this.
It doesn't work like that. Everybody's different. I can't design
a house without walking on a property. I've been doing
this for twenty seven years. I look at landscape plans,
I'm looking at him like, what do you want me
to do with this? I want to see everything that's
in there. I don't know how big the trees are.
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Ninety percent of the time the landscape plans change. I
don't see the grades and how things are going to work.
So it's a lot easier when I come out there
to see the property. And like I said, everybody's different.
You know, I got a property. I want you to
light it up. Well you didn't tell me you had
one hundred year old oak tree. Well that that's a
little bit different.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Well I'm going to tell you something, and I will
say this, it's best if you have Kevin out to
do your lighting. Just let him do what he wants.
Give him a price, you know, give him a number.
This is this is my budget, and let you go
because that's what I did basically up North. You just
walked around with your flags and boom, boom boom. He's
where we're putting this. And I was like, I trusted
you because you had done my house. But I mean,
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that's the best way to the artists do what the
artists do. Before we run out of time, Kevin, one
of the things that we promised before break was there's
a million guys doing the POxy floors. Okay, what differentiates
Premier garage from the others. I know, but I want
you to say it because there are some.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
There's a lot of guys that do a poly area.
It's a one day floor. We do in a POxy floor.
It's a two day floor. And you know, I've been
in business for twenty seven years. The poly aurea has
been around for a bit. It hasn't been around with
the high amount of volume for a long time. So
it's going to be interesting to see how this plays out.
(23:37):
I've I never never ever get on a new thing
that's coming out, This is the best or whatever. You know,
I'll just sit back in the weeds and I'm gonna.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Wait, Well, I'll platform shoes.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
I appreciate that, Nick, I really do with your life
alert on there. The thing is am I going to
you know, bet everything that I own and warranty this
stuff for ten plus years and have this stuff fail.
I'm not sold on it and I'm not going to
be for a long time. If it stands the test
of time, I'll be sold out.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
So Poxy's a little bit more difficult, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Poxy's a little bit thicker product.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
It's been around for I think almost one hundred years,
some of the formulas have changed. We use a polyspartic
top coat, which is important, but you know it's withstood
to test the time, and it's a big deal for me.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
And you know, in fairness, your process, the way you
prep the floors and the product that you use is
a little bit more expensive than the cheapest s guy
out there with the trailer, right, I mean.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
Yeah, and you know we're real particular down to what
crews we had, temperature, humidity, what chemicals we're using on
that job. We have files of all of that updated
so if we ever had a problem, you know, we
just come back, we pull out that file and we
figure out exactly what happens.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
So you know it.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
We only buy our chemicals from one place. We have
since the day we started doing this.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
So if somebody wants to get a I guess an
estimate on a closet, on a garage, organizational thing, on
a floor, or all of the above, or even outdoor lighting,
I imagine you put packages together for people too, right,
I mean.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
If you're getting all three yeah, yeah, we do give
a discount and it usually ends up on the lighting
side a little bit that's cool. Margins are a little
bit tighter with the epoxy floors and the cabinets and closets.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
But yeah, we work stuff.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Oh okay, So somebody wants to get a hold of you,
tell us about it.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
Two six two five eight four eighty one seventy one.
Two six two five eight four eighty one seventy one.
Or you can call Kevin at World Class Outdoor Lighting
and I'll get all the calls at two six two
five four nine fifty four eighty three.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
So you're actually going to answer the phone.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
A lot of my.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
Calls come to me directly, so they'll come off the
phone and they'll bounce to my phone.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Kevin, it's always fun having you on, even though sometimes
it's the digs hurt me traumatically after, but I appreciate
you coming on the show on Sunday and spending some time.
We're going to have you on again because we love you.
You've been on the show for the last ten years.
You've been I mean, you've been with me since the beginning.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
I think your ratings have started going up because of me. Nick. Yeah,
I don't want.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
To I'm sure that's what it is.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
Yeah, fairly certainly.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
But anyway, we will. We'll have you on again and
we'll talk some more, maybe next time bringing some pictures.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
So I'm glad you're taking good care of yourself too,
you know, if you have a heart attack or whatever,
a fall, yeah, I'm fairly certain that's going to Absolutely
Speaker 2 (26:29):
We will return again next week on news Talk eleven
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
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Speaker 1 (00:13):
Here is award winning remodeling expert Nick Kerzner.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
US Talk eleven thirty w isn It's Nick the construction
Guru here today. Whether have you been on here a
few times lately? Now? We must really like you somewhere
along the line. Huh, at least somebody does, Nick, someone does.
I have the uh. I would say you're probably the
light father and the garage father now, and Dean's the
pond father.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
I just talked to Dean yesterday. Fact. Yeah, I gotta
work on a project with him.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
And that's you know, That's what's what's funny about so
many of the guests on the show. We all work together,
you know, we work with you, you work with us. We've
all done projects together and it's a cool little network.
But I have Kevin Hunt with me from Premier your garage,
world class outdoor lighting. You are truly an entrepreneur. You
have a lot of businesses.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Well, A lot of people don't know the story about
Premier Garage but there's a gentleman that was at the
show and his name was Brian Herring. He did my
floor and we really liked it, and he was struggling
a little bit. So we ended up acquiring Premier Garage
and and they split that into two categories, so we
got Premier Garage and then the tailor closet. So it's
a full organizational company. My office is not.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Well, you have the infrastructure for it, you do. It's
all similar, right, kind of similar. I mean it's you
your warehousing stuff, you have logistic logistics in line, and
you have your your your crews in your in your truck.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
So the biggest thing is it's yeah, the biggest thing
is and you know this, Nick, the customers are kind
of the same customer base too. You know, I'm dealing
with uh, you know, a little bit more affluent customers Heartland, Mechwan,
you know, Whitefish based Orwood Lake Country, the whole Lake Country, Muskigo,
and you know customers that you know are doing their
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lighting sometimes they want the garage floor, so I'm there
to help them out.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Yeah. Yeah, it's a good it's a good it's a
good construct that works well. So Premiere garage. Tell us
a little bit about Premier garage. What exactly do you
guys do? I mean, I know, but.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
We do uh well, yeah, it's a funny guy, nick.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
We do a POxy garage floors and uh, we do
a lot of organization in garages. We do store wall.
You can hang stuff on there. We did a really
nice project last year in.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
A boat house.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
We did uh, you know, the boat house floor and
then we did store wall on all the walls. They
could uh you know, they can put all their boards
and stuff on there, and it really, uh, it really
was nice and I realized how strong store wall is too.
You can hang a lot of stuff on there. We
also do a lot of garage cabinets. We have a
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small showroom for people to look at. Aaron comes out
there and designs everything on a special program that we have.
You'll give you a couple of different designs and we
kind of go from there.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
It's I've had the pleasure of a meeting and working
with Aaron and I never realized, you know, when you
talk about a remodeling project or you always think that's
a bigger project, But the garages today, it's really become
garages used to be to part cars, right, I mean
now it's like hockey equipment, Christmas stuff, storage tools, workshops,
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craft shops, all kinds of things going on. And you
know that twenty four y thirty garage the average garage, right,
If it's maybe actually twenty four by twenty four, isn't
it probably average?
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (03:47):
So what happens I think to many people. And the
reason I know this is because what are you laughing about?
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Is that a life fuller time?
Speaker 2 (03:57):
You're just I have.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
I swear to god, Nick's got a life alert on
his chat.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
No. Actually, what this is I find this to be
very helpful. It's applaud. It's uh Ai recording device that
does when I go on with customers, I tell them
this takes all my notes for me and then I
can transcribe everything that we talked about so we don't
miss anything. It works very well. So but thanks for
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pointing that out. I always I always like to be
the brunt of your your humor. But anyway, what I was.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Talking, well, it's not as funny as what the people
can't actually see it.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
So I just I looked at that.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
I just had a nice elderly customer yesterday that had one,
and a lot of older people don't like wearing them.
So I said, you know, it's really nice that you
wear that because of a stigma, stigma attached to it. You,
on the other hand, browse in here with one on.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
I thought, yeah, so thanks, thanks for pointing that out, Kevin.
So where were we We were talking.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
About wheelchairs and garage, talking.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
About I think more and more people when you, at
least in my experience, I go to somebody's house normally,
I'm just going to say more more more often than not,
the garage is in complete disarray because it's the dumping
ground where you drop you know, the canned can sodas
that you pick up for the month. It's where you
drop the boxes from Amazon, and it gets very, very disorganized.
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One of the things that you know, working with Aaron
it was amazing because she has something for everything. If
you got if you're a tennis plan, you got tennis ball,
She's got a basket to go on, a slat wall
for your tennis bulls. Everything is completely organized and she
is able to basically take your lifestyle and match it
to your garage storage needs. And the other thing that
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amazed me about this, and I've said this often on
the show with you is It. It's amazing to me
how much space is in a garage that we don't utilize.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Right one hundred percent what a lot of people do.
They got graduation parties, pull the cars out of people,
put a TV in there, and you pretty much got
a version of a basement, except it's upstairs and it's
very convenient for people to entertain out of. I got
a brother in law. Every year we have Christmas in
the garage. He pulls his cars out, puts some tables
in there. We got a TV. It's heated, it's really nice.
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It's very comfortable. Aaron I think is she's been working
with us over well over five years, and she's very
good at what she does. You know, you know this, Nick.
If somebody just designs cabinets and closets and she does
a lot of interior closets too, and they don't bounce around,
they become very.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Very good at that job. And that's where she is
right now.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Well, the closet stuff is amazing. I just had a
condo in o'conwalk this morning. I'm going to be doing
some work for a Gail and she has a huge
closet and there's like these, you know, the wire shelves
that you get at the big box bowling wire. Yeah,
And you know I said to her, I said, you know,
I got just the guy when you move in here
(06:59):
to take care of your closet for you. And if he,
if he doesn't work out, I'll probably call you guys.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
So you're a funny guy. And that life alert is
going to go off in about two seconds. It's gonna
go off.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
But no, I mean everything that you got, trouser hangers,
you got, belt belt holders, you got, I mean, name
off some of the stuff that people I've seen hampers,
a lot of shoes.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
People love their shoes organized. And then we have jewelry drawers,
we got place you can put a gun. There's just
all sorts of different stuff they have with this.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Go through some of it, talk about it.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
I mean I I ended up getting one from first
hand experience. I got my wife a closet for Christmas.
I don't know, it's probably five years ago, believe it
or not. It was the most thoughtful gift I've ever
gotten her. And it sounds stupid, but she really liked it.
We took all her clothes out fishing pools. That's the
weirdest thing. No, No, you know that boat that I
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bought her that year, turns out she doesn't like water.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
How is I supposed to know, I've only been married
thirty eight years. Oh but uh.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
You know, you get all the all the stuff purged out,
and then you know, you reorganize your closet with everything
that was there. And she had some drawers in her
old closet she had, uh you know, just pull them wire.
And then I had my closet done too. All my
shoes are organized. We have some lighting on them.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
How long don't you have your closet done?
Speaker 3 (08:25):
I would say it was probably five years or.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Five years of them.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
If we walked in there today, is it's still.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Very organized, highly organized?
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Yeah, because that's what happens when you have a place
for everything. Everything ends up in its place. It works.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
I can tell you this much. It doesn't look like
your garage.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
No, No, my garage is busy.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
I know.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Yeah it's busy.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
There's a lot a lot of projects going on in there.
But but there are case in point. You know, if
you I know a lot of guys that have race
cars that they work on them themselves. I know a
lot of guys with motorcycles that work on them themselves.
And then there's the occasional project where washer draws or something.
I fix my own stuff. I'm sure you do too,
(09:04):
So you know, I have a lift in the garage
and all that kind of stuff. But you keep accumulating things,
and I'm one of these people. I like to save stuff.
I reclaim a lot of stuff. I'm not quite a hoarder,
but on borderline, right, because a minute I throw something out,
I need it. So I have you know, old steel brackets,
all kinds of things in buckets. So I call them
(09:25):
the wonder buckets where you go, hey, I wonder if
I have one of these? You dump the bucket on
the floor and you have one, right, But there's ways
to organize that so that it's a little bit looks
a little nicer. And that's kind of where you guys
come in.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Yeah, Erin will come in.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
She you know, like anything. You know how important it is.
We call it pinging. You listen to people and.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Their needs and stuff.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
I got my life alert.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
I know that's a special thing there, Nick and life
alerts are very important for people I just didn't think
you were to that point yet. But as far as
that goes, eron'll come here. How she to what you
need and she's on the cutting edge of all the
new storage techniques and everything through the Tailor Closet and
(10:07):
Premiere Garage, so she's kind of caught up on everything.
The software is really good. Comes out, you'll have a
visualization of you know, what you're looking at via email. Yeah,
they're they're pretty nice. I like them a lot. You
usually get one or two and then she'll work with
you after that. But uh, you know, we do a
lot of uh we do a lot of new construction,
and we also do a lot of you know, people
(10:30):
that got polling wire, which is pretty common. You don't
have a lot of money when you're building your house,
so you skimp a little bit there, and then they
come back in a couple of years and they'll work
with us.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
And that's where Aaron comes in.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
How many how many closets would you say you do
a month?
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Boy, I honestly, I don't know, but.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
It's people are realizing that this is the way to
go with the closets. You know.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
The one thing that's kind of surprising and it surprises
even me is the amount of people that are driven
by their garages, you know, whether it's the garage floor,
the cabinets. It's just a trend that's really really pushing forward.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Well, like I said, it's not a place to just
park anymore. Hey, when we come back, let's talk a
little bit about the epoxy floors, because there's a lot
of noise going on about that. I want to talk
to you about that. And then I always like to
talk to you about the lighting because I'm fascinated by
that aspect of your business. I think the outdoor lighting
is so cool. So let's introduce some of those things
(11:30):
when we come back from break. Okay, all right, News
Talk eleven thirty WISN. We will return after these messages.
News Talk eleven thirty W. In returning from break, it's
Nick the construction Guru. Listen if you're thinking about a
remodeling project. If it's a call, we can help you
out with the kitchen, the bathroom, recroom, edition, pretty much
(11:52):
anything to do with your entire home. You can reach
us on a worldwide web at kurznerink dot com. That's
k E rs z N E r I N c
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two six two five six seven twenty five hundred. Cursioner
is the only company in Wisconsin to win a Better
Business Bureau Torch Award for Ethics and Integrity three times
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in our industry.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
How much did that cost you?
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Actually, it's a really it's one of our nicest pieces.
It's a crystal glass, very nice piece. It didn't cost me. Well,
I guess my I'm being a member of the Better
Business Bureau for as long as I have, I guess.
But yeah, these are you know, unlike the awards and
your business, Kevin, these aren't awards you can purchase. You
actually have to win them.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
So I just.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
This is the great show, eh yeah. Also yeah yeah,
and then we go. You know, it's really fun after
this because we usually go for breakfast and then we
fight about the bill. Right in George Web they actually.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Speaking of that. I never eat breakfast. I was shocked
at how much that breakfast was. Oh, I know, I'd
just rather have dinner.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Well, you know, it's expensive to eat out now, there's
no two ways about it. I think, Well, everything's going up,
you know that. I mean, look at your business, look
at my business. You know, we both been we're fossils
in this business. I've been around forever, so we've seen
when it was low and now we see when it's
I was looking at an ad the other day for
a Corvette. I think it was seventy one or something,
six thousand dollars corvette. Today you walk in, it's one
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hundred and fifty grand to get the right one, right,
that's the best they have. Yeah, yeah, but I mean
one hundred and fifty grand, So one hundred and fifty
thousand dollars. Although it's difficult to earn it, it's very
easy to spend it. And spending one hundred and fifty
thousand dollars on an item doesn't really make you the
man either, because it's like it's just kind of average.
I mean, I used pickup truck is sixty seventy thousand
(13:42):
dollars today you know that. Look at the you go
to buy trucks. How much is it to wrap a
truck today?
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Oh, we don't.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
We cut down on our wraps, I know quite a
bit just because of how expensive it was. But get
that grand, yeah, to get a truck wrap you're probably
at Yeah, I mean it's probably good, i'd say complete wrap.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
Yeah, you're probably right.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Yeah. So, I mean it's it's very expensive to do
business today. So you know, that's why I tell people
when you're dealing with especially with contracting, you know, in Arizona,
I'm not I don't have my my contacts like I
do here. And I'll tell you what I feel for
homeowners that are trying to find a contractor because there's
so many out there that have no business being in
(14:21):
this business.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
Tommy ran into a problem. Huh, Tommy Elliota ran into
the problem. What was that down in Arizona? The guy standing, oh.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Yeah, yeah, when he had yeah, they painted his door
shut and that I mean it was terrible.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Yeah, he couldn't even open up his doors.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Yeah, and then he has all this he has all
this landscape lighting that these guys did and they got
paint all over his What are those copper and brass fixtures?
I mean there, that's some heavy duty stuff, And I'm like,
what's going on? You know? So, I mean it is,
it's a weird. It's a weird industry. If you're if
you don't know it, you have to know who you're
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looking for and things like that. So I mean, you know,
you have to or repeat customers. You have tons of
references that people can talk to. But these new guys
start now, even if they're legit, I feel bad for
them because it's hard. I mean, people are really looking
at what's going on. They're looking at reviews. I have
an HOA in Arizona, and if I if I had,
I could do a whole show on just that how
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ignorant people are too contracting and stuff like that. So yeah,
I mean it's important to deal with the company that's
been around and proven, and that brings me to world class.
So we met how many years ago?
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Twenty four?
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Yeah, I know you're both. Our hairs were not gray
like they are now, which is interesting. And I think
I traded you some countertops for some outdoor lighting.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Yeah. I still have the countertown, I.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Still have the outdoor lighting.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Man, it's perfect. But you know, the match made in heaven.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
That's the thing that tell us a little bit about
world class. I love it. You guys have such a
cool website. You have drone fly throughs on some of
these houses. I think that for most people, outdoor lighting
was something that you used to see on Lake Drive.
You used to see on big multimillion dollar homes, and
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it was I always thought it was very cool the
way they were shadowed and the way it's done. You
guys have basically made it affordable for anybody can have
outdoor lighting. Now, yeah, it's affordable.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
I'll take you through the evolution real quick of outdoor lighting.
When we started in the Yellow Pages, that used to
be something that used to be something that you had
to look phone numbers up on. But in the Yellow
Pages there wasn't even a category for outdoor lighting, and
so there wasn't a lot of it. People used to
love it ambiance, you know, get the backyard, it looks great.
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And then you know, things evolved into rather rapidly into security.
They want lighting because they don't want their backyard dark.
A lot of people when they break into homes don't
know this, but the people that are going to break
in go to the back yards and they'll get through
that way. And then, uh, you know, they want some
curb appeal to on the outside. And then you know,
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we went from halogens to LEDs that uh you know
took twenty watte hologenvolved down to a two watt led, uh,
thirty five watt hologenvolved down to five watts of power.
So so then we started, yeah, one hundred energy wise
and longevity too, right, longevity is a lot better. The
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colors are really good. And then we, uh, you know,
we started using a lot of photo eyes more solely
last two years just because it's Missus Jones would want
the lights off at midnight. A lot of it was
maybe to save a little bit of money, I don't know.
And now it's so affordable you can run them dust
to dawn. It's more important to do that now than
ever with you know, criminals.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
And then, uh, what we.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Started doing a little bit last year and and this
is easy for the homeowners to do. But where the
ring cameras are, we like to put those where they're
there's floodlights in the backyard. You can just exchange the
flood lights out and put a ring camera in there.
Real simple and easy to do. And your floodlights are
usually on the corners, which is exactly where you want
a security camera. So it's an easy way to add
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a little bit of security and safety to your property. Also,
so you can see that I kind of kind of
do both. You know, you got to blend the two together,
and that's what kind of that's what this industry. It's
not even kind of that's what the industry became. So
we kind of pioneered this industry from the get go.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
You know.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
Obviously now there's a little bit more competition. And the
same happened with the garage floors. We were one of
the first companies to do a POxy garage floors.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
In this market.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
When COVID hit and people decided that, you know, they
were going to stay home more. Did you see a
big influx in outdoor lighting during COVID.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
There's an influx and everything during COVID, even COVID.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
It's just.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
Look like a brick wall. Yeah, but I mean people
are staying on their their backyard. They wanted to add
a lot of stuff back there. They realized, you know what,
I don't like this garager. I don't want the you know,
their pursing their closets. That was the other one night.
I'll never forget the long lines to donate stuff at
like Goodwill and stuff. It was like, I'm like, what's
going on here? And there's like literally at Saint Vincent's DePaul. Yeah,
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there's lines that were three or four blocks long. Everybody,
and not to interrupt you, Nick, but everybody. It's amazing
how everybody has the same idea at the same time,
always just.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
About yeah it is. And you know, one of the
one of the other things I see with you know,
when I did my outdoor lighting, all of a sudden
I saw neighbors starting to do outdoor lighting. I don't
think it was for security purpose as much as it
is you know, the house at night when it's lit
off and you can create that scene like you talk
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about where you layer lighting and stuff like that. It
just is such a cool It's kind of like as
a kid when I went to floor to you know,
we went to Florida and there's that I forget. In Orlando,
there's that. I'm sure some of the listeners are going
to know what I'm talking about. There's this boulevard with
the palm trees and all the hotels are lit up
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and they light up the different palm trees. It's just
such a cool thing. And when you can do that
at your house. You know, we I talked about it
a number of times on a number of shows, but
when we did up North, you know, we're way up
in the woods when you came and did all your lighting.
It's just so cool at night because you focus in
on different trees and you focus in on different aspects
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of the environment that you don't see during the day
because it kind of gets lost in a in a
big collage of things. But you can focus emphasis on
water features, you can focus emphasis on you know, if
you put outdoor lighting around the deck, on the railings,
it's it's really cool from both the deck and outside
because it just shows the structure and all of that.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
So it's it's amazing. And I forget this sometimes. I
was just on a property a couple of days ago,
and every once in a while you run into a
one hundred.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Year old oak tree.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
Well, this guy had like three of them on his property,
and what we're going to do with those? And you
don't have a lot of opportunities to do this, but
you can get up into that canopy and you can
shoot lights up there. You know, a good oak tree,
you're looking at five or six fixtures up there. It's
super unique and it looks absolute.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Yeah, because you've done that.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Yeah, that's this.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
And it's hard because the customer they really have to
trust you because it's like, where can I go see this? Well,
most of the properties you got to go up a
driveway and into a back riage to see it unless
you drive by my house. I have a Locus street
that's done that looks really good.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
I don't know if you're still doing it, but I
mean when you did it for me, you kind of
laid it out late afternoon and then lit it up
and it was like the wires were still not underground yet.
I don't know if you remember that, but you said
you set my whole house up before you buried anything,
and said, if you want to move something, and you
know I would have done it like everybody else was
(21:56):
doing it. Then you put all the lights in a
row on the path, and you know you can always
tell an amateur job, right.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
Well, it's hard because you know, people go on the
internet and they think they you know, this is the
way I want this, and I want this like this.
It doesn't work like that. Everybody's different. I can't design
a house without walking on a property. I've been doing
this for twenty seven years. I look at landscape plans,
I'm looking at him like, what do you want me
to do with this? I want to see everything that's
in there. I don't know how big the trees are.
(22:21):
Ninety percent of the time the landscape plans change. I
don't see the grades and how things are going to work.
So it's a lot easier when I come out there
to see the property. And like I said, everybody's different.
You know, I got a property. I want you to
light it up. Well you didn't tell me you had
one hundred year old oak tree. Well that that's a
little bit different.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Well I'm going to tell you something, and I will
say this, it's best if you have Kevin out to
do your lighting. Just let him do what he wants.
Give him a price, you know, give him a number.
This is this is my budget, and let you go
because that's what I did basically up North. You just
walked around with your flags and boom, boom boom. He's
where we're putting this. And I was like, I trusted
you because you had done my house. But I mean,
(22:59):
that's the best way to the artists do what the
artists do. Before we run out of time, Kevin, one
of the things that we promised before break was there's
a million guys doing the POxy floors. Okay, what differentiates
Premier garage from the others. I know, but I want
you to say it because there are some.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
There's a lot of guys that do a poly area.
It's a one day floor. We do in a POxy floor.
It's a two day floor. And you know, I've been
in business for twenty seven years. The poly aurea has
been around for a bit. It hasn't been around with
the high amount of volume for a long time. So
it's going to be interesting to see how this plays out.
(23:37):
I've I never never ever get on a new thing
that's coming out, This is the best or whatever. You know,
I'll just sit back in the weeds and I'm gonna.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Wait, Well, I'll platform shoes.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
I appreciate that, Nick, I really do with your life
alert on there. The thing is am I going to
you know, bet everything that I own and warranty this
stuff for ten plus years and have this stuff fail.
I'm not sold on it and I'm not going to
be for a long time. If it stands the test
of time, I'll be sold out.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
So Poxy's a little bit more difficult, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Poxy's a little bit thicker product.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
It's been around for I think almost one hundred years,
some of the formulas have changed. We use a polyspartic
top coat, which is important, but you know it's withstood
to test the time, and it's a big deal for me.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
And you know, in fairness, your process, the way you
prep the floors and the product that you use is
a little bit more expensive than the cheapest s guy
out there with the trailer, right, I mean.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
Yeah, and you know we're real particular down to what
crews we had, temperature, humidity, what chemicals we're using on
that job. We have files of all of that updated
so if we ever had a problem, you know, we
just come back, we pull out that file and we
figure out exactly what happens.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
So you know it.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
We only buy our chemicals from one place. We have
since the day we started doing this.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
So if somebody wants to get a I guess an
estimate on a closet, on a garage, organizational thing, on
a floor, or all of the above, or even outdoor lighting,
I imagine you put packages together for people too, right,
I mean.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
If you're getting all three yeah, yeah, we do give
a discount and it usually ends up on the lighting
side a little bit that's cool. Margins are a little
bit tighter with the epoxy floors and the cabinets and closets.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
But yeah, we work stuff.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Oh okay, So somebody wants to get a hold of you,
tell us about it.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
Two six two five eight four eighty one seventy one.
Two six two five eight four eighty one seventy one.
Or you can call Kevin at World Class Outdoor Lighting
and I'll get all the calls at two six two
five four nine fifty four eighty three.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
So you're actually going to answer the phone.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
A lot of my.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
Calls come to me directly, so they'll come off the
phone and they'll bounce to my phone.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Kevin, it's always fun having you on, even though sometimes
it's the digs hurt me traumatically after, but I appreciate
you coming on the show on Sunday and spending some time.
We're going to have you on again because we love you.
You've been on the show for the last ten years.
You've been I mean, you've been with me since the beginning.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
I think your ratings have started going up because of me. Nick. Yeah,
I don't want.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
To I'm sure that's what it is.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
Yeah, fairly certainly.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
But anyway, we will. We'll have you on again and
we'll talk some more, maybe next time bringing some pictures.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
So I'm glad you're taking good care of yourself too,
you know, if you have a heart attack or whatever,
a fall, yeah, I'm fairly certain that's going to Absolutely
Speaker 2 (26:29):
We will return again next week on news Talk eleven
thirty WISN
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