Guru World Class Premire Garages show 9-14-25

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
When you need wisdom and advice.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
Seek out a guru when.

Speaker 1 (00:04):
You need wisdom and advice about remodeling and design. Lock
on and listen right now to Nick the Construction Guru.
Here is award winning remodeling expert Nick Kerzner, News Talk.

Speaker 3 (00:22):
Eleven thirty WSN. It's Nick the construction Guru here today.
Whether have you been on here a few times lately?

Speaker 2 (00:29):
Now?

Speaker 3 (00:29):
We must really like you somewhere along the line. Huh,
at least somebody does, Nick, someone does. I have the uh.
I would say you're probably the light father and the
garage father now, and Dean's the pond father. Kevin.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
I just talked to Dean yesterday, true fact. Yeah, I
gotta work on a project with him.

Speaker 3 (00:47):
And that's you know, That's what's what's funny about so
many of the guests on the show. We all work together,
you know, we work with you, you work with us.
We've all done projects together and it's a cool little network.
But I have Kevin Hunt with me from Premier World
Class outdoor Lighting. You are truly an entrepreneur. You have
a lot of businesses.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
Well, A lot of people don't know the story about
Premier Garage, but There's a gentleman that was at the
show and his name was Brian Herring. He did my
floor and we really liked it, and he was struggling
a little bit. So we ended up acquiring Premier Garage
and then they split that into two categories, so we
got Premier Garage and then the tailor closet. So it's
a full organizational company. My office is not, well, you have.

Speaker 3 (01:31):
The infrastructure for it, you do. It's all similar, right,
kind of similar. I mean it's your warehousing stuff. You
have logistic logistics in line, and you have your your
your crews in your in your truck.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
So the biggest thing is it's yeah, the biggest thing
is and you know this, Nick, the customers are kind
of the same customer base too. You know, I'm dealing
with uh, you know, a little bit more affluent customers Heartland, Mekwan,
you know, Whitefish based Orwood Lake Country, the whole Lake Country,
the Skigo and you know customers that you know are

(02:07):
doing their lighting sometimes they want the garage floor, so
I'm there to help them out.

Speaker 3 (02:11):
Yeah. Yeah, it's a good it's a good it's a
good construct that works well. So Premiere Garage tell us
a little bit about Premiere garage. What exactly do you
guys do? I mean, I know, but.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
We do uh well, yeah, it's a funny guy nick. Uh.
We do a POxy garage floors and uh, we do
a lot of organization in garages. We do store wall.
You can hang stuff on there. We did a really
nice project last year in a boat house. We did
uh you know, the boat house floor and then we

(02:42):
did store wall on all the walls. They could uh
you know, they can put all their boards and stuff
on there, and it really uh, it really was nice
and I realized how strong store wall is too. You
can hang a lot of stuff on there. We also
do a lot of garage cabinets. We have a small
showroom for people to look at. Aaron comes out there

(03:05):
and designs everything on a special program that we have.
You'll give you a couple of different designs and we
kind of go from there.

Speaker 3 (03:11):
It's I've had the pleasure of a meeting and working
with Aaron, and I never realized, you know, when you
talk about a remodeling project or you always think that's
a bigger project, But the garages today it's really become
garages used to be to park cars, right. I mean,
now it's like hockey equipment, Christmas stuff, storage tools, workshops,

(03:34):
craft shops, all kinds of things going on. And you
know that twenty four y thirty garage the average garage, right,
If it's maybe actually twenty four by twenty four, isn't
it probably average?

Speaker 2 (03:46):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (03:46):
So what happens I think to many people. And the
reason I know this is because what are you laughing about?

Speaker 2 (03:55):
Is it a life filler time?

Speaker 1 (03:57):
You're just I have.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
I swear to god, Nick's got a life alert on
his chat.

Speaker 3 (04:05):
No. Actually, what this is is I find this to
be very helpful. It's a plaud. It's a AI recording
device that does when I go in with customers, I
tell them this takes all my notes for me, and
then I can transcribe everything that we talked about so
we don't miss anything. It works very well. So but

(04:25):
thanks for pointing that out. I always I always like
to be the brunt of your your humor.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
But anyway, what I was talking, well, it's not as
funny as what the people can't actually see it. So
I just I looked at that. I just had a
nice elderly customer yesterday that had one, and a lot
of older people don't like wearing them. So I said,
you know, it's really nice that you wear that because
of the stigma stigma attached to it. You, on the
other hand, browse in here with one on.

Speaker 3 (04:49):
I thought, yeah, so thanks thanks for pointing that out, Kevin.
So where were we We were talking.

Speaker 2 (04:56):
About wheelchairs and garage, talking.

Speaker 3 (04:59):
About I think more and more people when you, at
least in my experience, I go to somebody's house normally,
I'm just going to say more more more often than not,
the garage is in complete dis array because it's the
dumping ground where you drop you know, the can can
sodas that you pick up for the month, It's where
you drop the boxes from Amazon, and it gets very

(05:22):
very disorganized. One of the things that you know, working
with Aaron it was amazing because she has something for everything.
If you got if you're a tennis plan, you got
tennis ball, She's got a basket to go on, a
slat wall for your tennis bulls. Everything is completely organized
and she is able to basically take your lifestyle and

(05:42):
match it to your garage storage needs. And the other
thing that amazed me about this, and I've said this
often on the show with You is It. It's amazing
to me how much space is in a garage that
we don't utilize, right.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
One hundred percent. What a lot of people do. They
got graduation parties, pull the cars out, a lot of
people people, put a TV in there, and you pretty
much got a version of a basement, except it's upstairs
and it's very convenient for people to entertain out of
I got a brother in law. Every year we have
Christmas in the garage. He pulls his cars out, puts
some tables in there. We got a TV. It's heated,

(06:15):
it's really nice. It's very comfortable. Aaron I think is
she's been working with us over well over five years,
and she's very good at what she does. You know,
you know this, Nick. If somebody just designs cabinets and
closets and she does a lot of interior closets too,
and they don't bounce around, they become very very good

(06:36):
at that job. And that's where she is right now.

Speaker 3 (06:38):
Well, the closet stuff is amazing. I just had a
condo in o'conwalk this morning. I'm going to be doing
some work for a Gail and she has a huge closet,
and there's like these, you know, the wire shelves that
you get at the big box boling wire. Yeah, And
you know I said to her, I said, you know,
I got just the guy when you move in here

(06:59):
to take care of your class. Is it for you?
And if he, if he doesn't work out, I'll probably
call you guys.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
So you're a funny guy. That life alert is going
to go off in about two seconds. It's gonna go off.

Speaker 3 (07:11):
But no, I mean everything that you got, charleser hangers,
you got, belt belt holders, you got, I mean, name
off some of the stuff that people I've seen hampers.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
A lot of shoes. People love their shoes organized. And
then we have jewelry drawers, we got place you can
put a gun. There's just all sorts of different stuff.

Speaker 3 (07:33):
They have with this. Go through some of it, talk
about it.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
I mean I I ended up getting one from first
hand experience. I got my wife a closet for Christmas.
I don't know, it's probably five years ago, believe it
or not. It was the most thoughtful gift I've ever
gotten her. And it sounds stupid, but she really liked it.
We took all her clothes off and fishing pools. That's
the weirdest thing. No, No, you know that boat that

(07:57):
I bought her that year turns out she doesn't like her.
How is I supposed to know, I've only been married
thirty eight years. Oh but uh, you know, you get
all the all the stuff purged out, and then you know,
you reorganize your closet with everything that was there. And
she had some drawers in her old closet she had,
uh you know, just pull them wire. And then I

(08:19):
had my closet done too. All my shoes are organized.
We have some lighting on them.

Speaker 3 (08:23):
How long don't you have your closet done?

Speaker 2 (08:25):
I would say it was probably five years or five
years of them.

Speaker 3 (08:28):
If we walked in there today, is it's still very organized,
highly organized? Yeah, because that's what happens when you have
a place for everything. Everything ends up in its place.
It works.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
I can tell you this much. It doesn't look like
your garage.

Speaker 3 (08:40):
No, No, my garage is busy. I know.

Speaker 2 (08:42):
Yeah it's busy.

Speaker 3 (08:43):
There's a lot a lot of projects going on in there.
But but there are case in point. You know, if
you I know a lot of guys that have race
cars that they work on them themselves. I know a
lot of guys with motorcycles that work on them themselves.
And then there's the occasional project where washer dryer something.
I fix my own stuff. I'm sure you do too,

(09:03):
So you know, I have a lift in the garage
and all that kind of stuff. But you keep accumulating things,
and I'm one of these people. I like to save stuff.
I reclaim a lot of stuff. I'm not quite a hoarder,
but on borderline, right because a minute I throw something out,
I need it. So I have, you know, old steel brackets,
all kinds of things in buckets. So I call them

(09:24):
to wonder buckets where you go, hey, I wonder if
I have one of these? You dump the bucket on
the floor and you have one, right, But there's there's
ways to organize that so that it's a little bit
looks a little nicer. And that's kind of where you
guys come in.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
Heay Erin will come in. She you know, like anything,
you know how important it is. We call it pinging.
You listen to people and their needs.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
I got my life alert.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
I know that's a special thing there, Nick and life
alerts are very important for people. I just didn't think
you were to that point yet.

Speaker 3 (09:55):
Thanks.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
But as far as echoes eron'll come here. How she
listens to what you need and she's on the cutting
edge of all the new storage techniques and everything through
the Tailor Closet and Premier garage, so she's kind of
caught up on everything. Their software is really good. Comes out.
You'll have a visualization of you know what you're looking
at via email. Yeah, they're they're pretty nice. I like

(10:20):
them a lot. You usually get one or two and
she'll work with you after that. But uh, you know,
we do a lot of uh we do a lot
of new construction, and we also do a lot of
you know, people that got polling wire, which is pretty common.
You don't have a lot of money when you're building
your house, so you skimp a little bit there, and
then they come back in a couple of years and
they'll work with us. And that's where Aaron comes in.

Speaker 3 (10:42):
How many how many closets would you say you do
a month?

Speaker 2 (10:47):
Boy, I honestly, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (10:50):
But it's people are realizing that this is the way
to go with the closets.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
You know.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
The one thing that's kind of surprising and it surprises
even me is the amount of people that are driven
by their garages, you know, whether it's the garage floor,
the cabinets. It's just a trend that's really really pushing forward.

Speaker 3 (11:09):
Well, like I said, it's not a place to just
park anymore. Hey, when we come back, let's talk a
little bit about the epoxy floors, because there's a lot
of noise going on about that. I want to talk
to you about that. And then I always like to
talk to you about the lighting because I'm fascinated by
that aspect of your business. I think the outdoor lighting
is so cool. So let's introduce some of those things

(11:30):
when we come back from break. Okay, all right, News
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(11:52):
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Speaker 2 (12:13):
How much did that cost you, Nick?

Speaker 3 (12:15):
Actually, it's a really it's one of our nicest pieces.
It's a crystal glass, very nice piece. It didn't cost me. Well,
I guess I'm being a member of the Better Business
Bureau for as long as I have, I guess. But yeah,
these are you know, unlike the awards and your business, Kevin,
these aren't awards you can purchase. You actually have to
win them. So just a.

Speaker 2 (12:37):
Great show, eh yeah.

Speaker 3 (12:40):
Also yeah yeah, and then we go. You know, it's
really fun after this because we usually go for breakfast
and then we fight about the bill. Right in George
Webb they actually.

Speaker 2 (12:50):
Speaking of that. I never eat breakfast. I was shocked
at how much that breakfast was. Oh, I know, I'd
just rather have dinner.

Speaker 3 (12:58):
Well, you know, it's expensive to eat out now, there's
no two ways about it. I think, Well, everything's going up,
you know that. I mean, look at your business, look
at my business, you know, we both been. We're fossils
in this business. I've been around forever, so we've seen
when it was low, and now we see when it's
I was looking at an ad the other day for
a Corvette. I think it was seventy one or something,
six thousand dollars corvette. Today you walk in, it's one

(13:20):
hundred and fifty grand to get the right one.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
Right, that's the best they have.

Speaker 3 (13:24):
Yeah, yeah, but I mean one hundred and fifty grand.
So one hundred and fifty thousand dollars. Although it's difficult
to earn it, it's very easy to spend it. And
spending one hundred and fifty thousand dollars on an item
doesn't really make you the man either, because it's like
it's just kind of average. I mean, I use pickup
truck as sixty seventy thousand dollars today, you know that.
Look at the you go to buy trucks. How much

(13:45):
is it to wrap a truck today?

Speaker 2 (13:47):
Oh, we don't. We cut down on our wraps. I
know you quite a bit, just because of how expensive
it was to get a grand Yeah, to get a
truck wrap, you're probably at I mean, it's probably good.
I'd say, complete wrap. Yeah, you're probably right.

Speaker 3 (14:00):
Yeah. So I mean it's it's very expensive to do
business today. So you know, that's why I tell people
when you're dealing with especially with contracting, you know, in Arizona,
I'm not I don't have my my contacts like I
do here. And I'll tell you what I feel for
homeowners that are trying to find a contractor because there's
so many out there that have no business being in

(14:21):
this business.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
Tommy ran into a problem. Huh, Tommy Elliota ran into
the problem. What was that down in Arizona? The guy standing,
oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (14:29):
Yeah, when he had yeah, they painted his door shut
and that I mean it was terrible.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
Yeah, he couldn't even open up his doors.

Speaker 3 (14:35):
Yeah, and then he has all this he has all
this landscape lighting that these guys did and they got
paint all over his What are those copper and brass fixtures?
I mean there, that's some heavy duty stuff, and I'm like,
what's going on? You know? So, I mean it is
it's a weird. It's a weird industry. If you're if
you don't know it, you have to know who you're

(14:56):
looking for and things like that. So I mean, you know,
you have tons of re peak customers, you have tons
of references that people can talk to. But these new
guys start now, even if they're legit, I feel bad
for them because it's hard. I mean, people are really
looking at what's going on. They're looking at reviews. I
have an HOA in Arizona, and if I, if I had,
I could do a whole show on just that how

(15:17):
ignorant people are too contracting and stuff like that. So yeah,
I mean it's important to deal with a company that's
been around and proven, and that brings me to world class.
So we met twenty years ago, twenty four. Yeah, I
know you're both. Our hairs were not gray like they
are now, which is interesting. And I think I traded

(15:41):
you some countertops for some outdoor lighting. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:44):
I still have the Contertown and.

Speaker 3 (15:45):
I still have the outdoor lighting. Man, it's perfect.

Speaker 2 (15:47):
But you know, the match made in heaven.

Speaker 3 (15:49):
That's the thing that tell us a little bit about
world class. I love it. You guys have such a
cool website. You have drone fly throughs on some of
these houses. I think that for most people, outdoor lighting
was something that you used to see on Lake Drive.
You used to see on big multimillion dollar homes, and

(16:12):
it was I always thought it was very cool the
way they were shadowed and the way it's done. You
guys have basically made it affordable for anybody can have
outdoor lighting. Now it's affordable.

Speaker 2 (16:23):
I'll take you through the evolution real quick of outdoor lighting.
When we started in Yellow Pages, that used to be
something that used to be something that you had to
look phone numbers up on. But in the Yellow Pages
there wasn't even a category for outdoor lighting, and so
there wasn't a lot of it. People used to love
it ambiance, you know, get the backyard, it looks great.

(16:46):
And then you know, things evolved into rather rapidly into security.
They want lighting because they don't want their backyard dark.
A lot of people when they break in the homes
don't know this, but the people that are going to
break in go to the backyard and don't get through
that way. And then, uh, you know, they want some
curb appeal to on the outside. And then you know,

(17:07):
we went from halogens to LEDs that you know took
twenty watte hologen ball down to a two watt led
thirty five watt hologen bolved down to five watts of power.
So so then we stig cheap light the house. Yeah,
one hundred energy wise and longevity too, right, longevity is
a lot better. The colors are really good. And then

(17:30):
we uh, you know, we started using a lot of
photo eyes more solely last two years just because it's
Missus Jones would want the lights off at midnight. A
lot of it was maybe to save a little bit
of money, I don't know. And now it's so affordable
you can run them dust to dawn. It's more important
to do that now than ever with you know, criminals.
And then what we started doing a little bit last year.

(17:53):
And this is easy for the homeowners to do, but
where the ring cameras are, we like to put those
where there's floodlights in the backyard. You can just exchange
the flood lights out and put a ring camera in there.
Real simple and easy to do. And your floodlights are
usually on the corners, which is exactly where you want
a security camera. So it's an easy way to add

(18:13):
a little bit of security and safety to your property. Also,
so you can see that I kind of kind of
do both. You know, you got to blend the two together,
and that's what kind of that's what this industry. It's
not even kind of that's what the industry became. So
we kind of pioneered this industry from the get go.
You know. Obviously now there's a little bit more competition.
And the same happened with the garage floors. We were
one of the first companies to do a POxy garage

(18:34):
floors in this market.

Speaker 3 (18:35):
When COVID hit and people decided that, you know, they
were going to stay home more. Did you see a
big influx in outdoor lighting during COVID.

Speaker 2 (18:46):
There's an influx and everything during COVID, even COVID.

Speaker 3 (18:53):
It's just.

Speaker 2 (18:56):
Look like a brick wall. Yeah, but I mean people
are staying on their property, their backyard. They wanted to
add a lot of stuff back there. They realized, you
know what, I don't like this garager. I don't want
the you know, their pursing their closets. That was the
other one night. I'll never forget the long lines to
donate stuff at like Goodwill and stuff. It was like,
I'm like, what's going on here? And there's like literally

(19:17):
at Saint Vincent's DePaul. Yeah, there's lines that were three
or four blocks along everybody, and not to interrupt you, Nick,
but everybody. It's amazing how everybody has the same idea
at the same time, always just.

Speaker 3 (19:30):
About yeah it is. And you know, one of the
one of the other things I see with you know,
when I did my outdoor lighting, all of a sudden,
I saw neighbors starting to do outdoor lighting. I don't
think it was for security purpose as much as it
is you know, the house at night when it's lit
off and you can create that scene like you talk

(19:52):
about where you layer lighting and stuff like that. It
just is such a cool It's kind of like as
a kid when I went to Florida. You know, we
went to Florida and there's that I forget. In Orlando,
there's that. I'm sure some of the listeners are going
to know what I'm talking about. There's this boulevard with
the palm trees and all the hotels are lit up

(20:13):
and they light up the different palm trees. It's just
such a cool thing. And when you can do that
at your house. You know, we I talked about it
a number of times on a number of shows, but
when we did up North, you know, we're way up
in the woods when you came and did all your lighting.
It's just so cool at night because you focus in
on different trees and you focus in on different aspects

(20:35):
of the environment that you don't see during the day
because it kind of gets lost in a big collage
of things. But you can focus emphasis on water features,
you can focus emphasis on you know, if you put
outdoor lighting around the deck, on the railings, it's it's
really cool from both the deck and outside because it
just shows the structure and all of that.

Speaker 2 (20:54):
So it's it's amazing. And I forget this sometimes. I
was just on a property a couple of days ago,
and every once in a while you run into a
one hundred year old oak tree. Well this guy had
like three of them on his property, and what we're
going to do with those? And you don't have a
lot of opportunities to do this, but you can get
up into that canopy and you can shoot lights up there.
You know, a good oak tree, you're looking at five

(21:16):
or six fixtures up there. It's super unique and it
looks absolutely.

Speaker 3 (21:19):
Yeah it does because you've done that.

Speaker 2 (21:21):
Yeah, that's this. And it's hard because the customer they
really have to trust you because it's like, where can
I go see this? Well, most of the properties you
got to go up a driveway and into a back
riage to see it unless you drive by my house.
I have a Locus street that's done that looks really good.

Speaker 3 (21:35):
I don't know if you're still doing it, but I
mean when you did it for me, you kind of
laid it out late afternoon and then lit it up
and it was like the wires were still not underground yet.
I don't know if you remember that, but you set
my whole house up before you buried anything and said,
if you want to move something, and you know I
would have done it like everybody else was doing it.

(21:56):
Then you put all the lights in a row on
the path, and you know you can always tell an
amateur job, right.

Speaker 2 (22:00):
Well, it's hard because you know, people go on the
internet and they think they you know, this is the
way I want this, and I want this like this.
It doesn't work like that. Everybody's different. I can't design
a house without walking on a property. I've been doing
this for twenty seven years. I look at landscape plans,
I'm looking at him like, what do you want me
to do with this? I want to see everything that's
in there. I don't know how big the trees are.

(22:20):
Ninety percent of the time the landscape plans change. I
don't see the grades and how things are going to work.
So it's a lot easier when I come out there
to see the property. And like I said, everybody's different.
You know, I got a property. I want you to
light it up. Well you didn't tell me you had
one hundred year old oak tree. Well that that's a
little bit different.

Speaker 3 (22:36):
Well I'm going to tell you something, and I will
say this, it's best if you have Kevin out to
do your lighting. Just let him do what he wants.
Give him a price, you know, give him a number.
This is this is my budget, and let you go
because that's what I did basically up north. You just
walked around with your flags and boom boom boom heres
where we're putting this. And I was like, I trusted
you because you had done my house. But I mean,

(22:58):
that's the best way to let the ear to do
with the artists do before we run out of time. Kevin,
one of the things that we promised before break was
there's a million guys doing the POxy floors. Okay, what
differentiates premier garage from the others. I know, but I
want you to say it because there are some There's a.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
Lot of guys that do a poly area. It's a
one day floor. We do in a POxy floor. It's
a two day floor. And you know, I've been in
business for twenty seven years. The poly Aurea's been around
for a bit. It hasn't been around with the high
amount of volume for a long time. So it's going
to be interesting to see how this plays out. I've
I never never ever get on a new thing that's

(23:40):
coming out, This is the best or whatever. You know,
I'll just sit back in the weeds and I'm gonna wait.

Speaker 3 (23:45):
Well, I know you still wear platform shoes.

Speaker 2 (23:46):
I appreciate that, Nick, I really do with your life
alert on there. The thing is am I going to
you know, bet everything that I own and warranty this
stuff for ten plus years and have this stuff fail.
I'm not sold on it and I'm not going to
be for a long time. If it stands to test
the time, I'll be sold out.

Speaker 3 (24:07):
So Poxy's a little bit more difficult, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
Poxy's a little bit thicker product. It's been around for
I think almost one hundred years. Some of the formulas
have changed. We use a polyspartic top coat, which is important,
but you know it's withstood to test the time, and
it's a big deal for me.

Speaker 3 (24:24):
And you know, in fairness, your process, the way you
prep the floors and the product that you use is
a little bit more expensive than the cheapest guy out
there with the trailer, right, I mean.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
Yeah, And you know we're real particular down to what
crews we had, temperature, humidity, what chemicals we're using on
that job. We have files of all of that updated
so if we ever had a problem, you know, we
just come back, we pull out that file and we
figure out exactly what happened. So you know, we only
buy our chemicals from one place. We have since the

(24:56):
day we started doing this.

Speaker 3 (24:57):
So if somebody wants to get a I guess an
estimate on a closet, on a garage, organizational thing, on
a floor, or all of the above, or even outdoor lighting,
I imagine you put packages together for people too, right,
I mean.

Speaker 2 (25:14):
If you're getting all three yeah, yeah, we do give
a discount and it usually ends up on the lighting
side a little bit that's cool. Margins are a little
bit tighter with the epoxy floors and the cabinets and closets.
But yeah, we work stuff.

Speaker 3 (25:25):
Okay. So somebody wants to get a hold of you,
tell us about it.

Speaker 2 (25:28):
Two six two five eight four eighty one seventy one.
Two six two five four eighty one seventy one. Or
you can call Kevin at World Class Outdoor Lighting and
I'll get all the calls at two six two five
four nine fifty four eighty three.

Speaker 3 (25:46):
So you're actually going to answer the phone.

Speaker 2 (25:48):
A lot of my calls come to me directly, so
they'll come off the phone and they'll bounce to my phone.

Speaker 3 (25:54):
Kevin, it's always fun having you on, even though sometimes
it's the dicks hurt me traumatically afterwards. But I appreciate
you coming on the show on Sunday and spending some time.
We're going to have you on again because we love you.
You've been on the show for the last ten years.
You've been I mean, you've been with me since the beginning.

Speaker 2 (26:09):
I think your ratings have started going up because I mean, yeah,
I don't want.

Speaker 3 (26:12):
To I'm sure that's what it is. Yeah, fairly, certainly,
but Anyway, we will. We'll have you on again and
we'll talk some more, maybe next time bringing some pictures.

Speaker 2 (26:20):
So I'm glad you're taking good care of yourself too,
you know, if you have a heart attack or whatever,
a fall, yeah, I'm fairly certain that's going to Absolutely

Speaker 3 (26:28):
We will return again next week on News Talk eleven
thirty WISN.