A Wild Week of College Football, AP Poll Reactions, San Jose State Preview

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello Tuesday.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
Glad to be with you here on a Tuesday afternoon
on sports Radio AM thirteen hundred of the Zone. My
name is Craig Way. Glad to have you with us.
Thanks for joining us this afternoon. We're with you all
the way up until five o'clock this afternoon, and we're
navigating through the week. We got a chance to hear
from Long Worn's head coach Steve Sarkisian yesterday a LONGRRNS

(00:23):
Monday presentation, which of course included bringing you the news
conference live at eleven thirty our coverage beginning at eleven
am every Monday during Long WRN football season here on
the Zone. And he had his news conference, and then
we brought you excerpts from that from that press conference yesterday,

(00:46):
We'll hear from some Long Worn players today and also
I'm going to hear from some guests. One of the
guests coming up here in a few minutes is Kevin Richardson.
He's the play by play voice of the San Jose
State Spartins, and he'll join us give us a little
little inside look at the Spartans tomorrow on the program,

(01:07):
We're gonna visit with the head coach Ken Neo Mata Lolo,
the former Navy head coach who's in his second season
at San Jose. And we'll visit with coach Neo Mata
Lolo tomorrow on the program. But Kevin Richards in their
play by play voice will join us this afternoon in
the three o'clock hour. Well, also in the two o'clock hour,
of course, we have inconceivable for you, which does today

(01:29):
include a fast food junk food update, so we have
that for him. Then in the three o'clock hour, our
weekly conversation with Greg Tepper, managing editor of used to
be managing it.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
Now he's the editor in chief, the head honcho, the
Big Cheese.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
Anyway, TEP will join us Greg Tepper, editor in chief
Dave Campbell's Texas Football Magazine, and he will be with
us in the three o'clock hour, and we'll also hear
some sound from Arch Manning. Both in the three o'clock
hour and the four o'clock hour, we'll hear from Arch,
so that'll be coming up in the three o'clock hour.

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In the four o'clock hour, in looking at college football
from the national perspective, we're going to visit with Jeff Colhane,
who is the play by play voice of the Florida
State Seminoles.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
Jeff and I have known each other a long time,
going all the way.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
Back to when he was doing Nebraska's i think pregame
and post game. Then I got to know him when
he was doing West Virginia women's basketball and baseball. Then
he went to North Dakota State and did their football
and basketball and baseball, and then when Jeene Deckerhoff retired

(02:45):
from doing Florida State. Now Jean still does the Tampa
Bay Buccaneers, but he retired from doing Florida State football
and men's basketball, and Jeff took over there last year.
So have call Ham will join us to talk about
that wild scene with Florida State beating Alabama and a
driving torrential at times rainstorm at Dope Campbell Stadium in Tallahassee.

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So he'll join us in the four o'clock hour, and
again we'll hear some more from Arch Banning. So we've
got all that on tap for you today. Our producer
today is Jay Carman, who's back was did you watch
the TCU North Carolina. Well, from the North Carolina perspective,
it's a debacle, not from the TCU perspective, But did

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you watch that game last night?

Speaker 3 (03:35):
I did, and I did not make it though to
the viral moment of ben he Peter herb Street in
the booth right in an appearance.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
Yeah right, I'd already flipped the flipped the channel by
then too, it already tuned.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
And maybe it's all purpose of that.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
You know, they knew they were probably losing some listeners
at that or viewers at that point. Let's put a
headset on the dog, you know, and see and see
how that.

Speaker 3 (03:59):
Yeah, not even Rhys Davis could have kept that one
interesting in.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
The second Yeah, it was gonna be It was gonna
be tough. And and let me say this too, because
I noticed on social media this morning. I went back
and I saw it because I had recorded it. So
I went back and I watched it afterwards. I didn't
see it live in the moment.

Speaker 4 (04:17):
But.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
Kirkharb Street in specific, I think, but ESPN as a
whole took a lot of grief from people on social
media for herb Street putting the headset on the dog
and all. This was two days after Peter left his
mark in the college game day set. There doing that

(04:41):
kicking challenge there and he dropped the deuce during that.
The other day he went for two. He went for two.

Speaker 1 (04:50):
He did so people were people.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
Were giving him giving them a lot of a lot
of grief over this. Let me say this. And and
by the way, you may have an opinion on it
as well. And if you do, hey have more power
to you. If you like to join in the conversation
by texting us, feel free to do.

Speaker 4 (05:15):
So.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
What you do is you text the word texas follow
by your question or comment to eight one five three zero.
See text the word Texas follow by your question or
comment to eight one five three zero. Standard messaging and
data rates pay apply. You may be one of the
people who didn't like seeing a dog all of the said,
no matter the time that the score was forty eight

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to fourteen. And if that's a case, okay, fine, just
you know you can text you text the word texas
and say I thought it was ridiculous and silly and
he never should add the dog in there, and YadA YadA.
Or you may say, no, nothing's wrong with that dog.
You know, that's that's okay. I mean then the game
had lost interest by then. Anyway, whatever it is. If

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you want to weigh in that out or if you
have a question, you address that with the word texts
followed by your question or comment to eight one, five
three zero, and again standard messaging and data rates may apply.
Here's what I think about it. The college football viewing public. Uh,

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and this is kind of split into two camps really,
although a lot of people fall into both categories. The
group that really and truly is only interested in watching
the game. And then there's the group that won't miss
ESPN College Game Day on the Saturday morning if their

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life dependent on it. There they're not going to miss
that show. They're definitely going to watch that show. And
I will add this College Game Day is and became
to Saturdays in college football what CBS did with the

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NFL today back in the seventies, and this is go back.

Speaker 1 (07:03):
This goes back fifty years.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
But with Brent Musburger and Phyllis George and IRV Cross
and Jimmy the Greek, that show became the goal standard
and really launched what pregame shows were supposed to be
about in the NFL, and it became must watch TV
on Sundays. So to lead into the game, the whole

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you are looking live. That was Brent Musburger's invention that phrase,
and it would open the NFL today where they would
have all the monitors up. You were looking live at
a sold out Soldier Fiel where the Chicago Bears take
on the Green Bay Packers.

Speaker 1 (07:39):
If it said and you're looking live at.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
At Tampa Stadium in Tampa, Florida, whether the Tampa Bay
Buccaneers hoped to continue anyway, it would have bounce around
like them. That's what the NFL. Excuse me, that's what
the NFL today did, and I think ESPN College game
Day is done likewise.

Speaker 1 (07:58):
Now.

Speaker 2 (07:59):
Game day is a completely different thing than the actual
games themselves. Game day is much more relaxed, vibe, have
fun with a vibe, and that's where Kirk Herbstreak's dog, the.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
First one, Ben was a part of it.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
But Ben had a cancer and it took his life
last year and they quickly replaced him.

Speaker 1 (08:18):
He got another dog, Peter.

Speaker 2 (08:20):
They're both Golden Retrievers, and Peter was there and so
they've got real comfortable with him to the extent that
they didn't mind with the game blowout. Bring him on
the set. You know you didn't see him when it
was ten to seven in the second quarter. You didn't
see the dog. Then you saw him in the fourth

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quarter it was forty eight fourteen. So I think probably
ESPN can be for forgetting a little bit off script
because the game itself was off script.

Speaker 5 (08:54):
We saw Jordan Hudson before we saw Peter Herbstreet.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
That's right, That's exactly right. So anyway, I think it's
I think it's important to keep that in mind. All right,
up next, we'll talk about the San Jose State Spartans,
will visit with Kevin Richardson, their play by play voice
when we continue on Sports Radio AM thirteen under the
zone of the iHeartRadio app. All right, it's a Tuesday
afternoon here on the program on Sports Radio AM thirteen

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under the Zone.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
My name is Craig Way.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
Glad to have you with us, and also please to
be joined by the play by play voice of the
San Jose State Spartans who joins us from beautiful San Jose, California.
That's Kevin Richardson, who joins us on the hotline. Now,
I appreciate the time, Kevin. How are you today?

Speaker 6 (09:35):
You know I'm doing great and Craig.

Speaker 7 (09:37):
You know, you and I traded emails that I said
I was a fan and I mean it.

Speaker 8 (09:41):
I mean it.

Speaker 7 (09:41):
You and Roger Wallace, you guys set the standard in
college football for radio broadcast and in the playoffs when
they were running the ESPN game with your audio. I'm
in for that every day. That's good stuff and you
guys are outstanding, So wow, have to be on your show. Well,
I'll tell you what the.

Speaker 2 (10:03):
Were members of the Mutual Admiration Society because I've heard
you work before and I really enjoyed as well.

Speaker 1 (10:08):
And correct me if I'm wrong.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
See this is where this is where Kevin is a
much smarter man than I am. Whereas I've been a
talking dog in this business for the better part of
forty years, Kevin is a by daytime mightas touch everything
he touches turns to Gold Financial Advisor and your side

(10:32):
hustle was doing the Spartans.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
Is that even close to the truth?

Speaker 6 (10:37):
You know? That is the truth.

Speaker 7 (10:39):
About twenty years ago, I bought some gears, started doing
some high school stuff, and then picked up the job
as the color analyst for San Jose State and I
did that for fifteen years and then Justin a'lagry who
left to go become the voice of the California Golden Bears.

Speaker 6 (10:59):
He was to play by a player.

Speaker 7 (11:00):
Well, I'd done play by play at the high school level,
and if memory serves me right, you've done a lot
of that. And I was like, oh my gosh, what
a joy it would be to call play by play
at the college level because it would be so much
easier than the high school level.

Speaker 6 (11:15):
Right, Yeah, and slid over.

Speaker 7 (11:17):
Into that share and yeah, it is my weekend gig.
I feel like I have two jobs, but they're both
jobs that I really really enjoy.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
That's great, that's great. I want to get your thoughts
on the Spartans team. But before but even even factoring
that into it, I wanted to give you a chance
to get folks a little bit of background on how
this program has progressed, especially over the past few years,
and especially with ken Neo Manta Fole being able to

(11:48):
take over and and in his second season coming off
that crazy five overtime Bowl game last year, what he's
trying to set forward, I guess and really put his
tamp on the program.

Speaker 7 (12:01):
Yeah, you know, it's interesting because coach Neia Montalolo. I
had interviewed him, oh gosh, four times. I believe San
Jose State had played them over the years. And you know,
us broadcasters, we always have our tricks. But that was
back in the day when you could get a pregame
interview with a head coach, and you know, you could

(12:21):
pre record it during the week, and I would always
use the trick of I'd say, coach, the recorder's not on,
but I'd ask a question that was real intimate to
that coach, and the coaches that opened up about that
question always ended up going on and doing really well,
and the guys that didn't kind of faded really quickly.
And Kim was always that guy that listened to that

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first question and answered it very thoughtfully. And that's who
we've got as a head coach. He's got a couple
of great sayings. One of them is, I don't know
what else I'd do if I didn't coach. I'm a coach, right,
That's what I do, and I know what football should
look like, and for him, football should look like a
pretty disciplined group of guys that are playing super physical

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And that was the thing that I feel like was
the biggest transition last year for the Spartans from Brent
Brennan to kim Nea Montalolo. It was, Hey, let's play
some physical football and let's not sit around and wind.
If somebody punches us in the mouth, we've got to
punch him back. So it's been a great step for
San Jose State. And he's a guy that knows what

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it's supposed to look like having been at the Naval
Academy for so many years. And again we're trying to
you know, last time we were in Texas in twenty seventeen,
that was pretty ugly, right, fifty six to zero, and
this is, you know, a lot different team, and it
is it's fun watching kN coach because the game means
a lot to him.

Speaker 2 (13:48):
Yeah, I was going to ask you another question about
coach Neia mato Lolo, and that is, here's a man
who is of Polynesian descent and was had loved that
went to Universe Hawaii, did a tremendous job at the
Naval Academy. That's where he really exploded on the map
for a lot of folks. But do you get the feeling,

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especially now in his second year, that he feels more
at home being on the West coast and say even
in Annapolis at the Naval Academy.

Speaker 7 (14:17):
Well, you know what, it's an interesting subtlety that I
missed when they hired him because I saw no connection. Right,
the kid that you get at Santase State, it's going
to be a lot different than the kid that you
get at the Naval Academy. And then I come to
find out he took his LDS mission. He was stationed
in Ventura, California, so he knew California really well. And

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a lot of the Central Valley, you know, is great
recruiting grounds, and that's where he had spent a lot
of time. So there was so there was that connection.
And then I had kind of in this name, image
and likeness.

Speaker 6 (14:56):
And transfer portal world.

Speaker 7 (14:57):
Even though I'm an old eighties football guy that you know,
played a game for Stanford down in DKR many years ago,
I had kind of forgotten kind of what football was about.

Speaker 6 (15:09):
And this guy just came in and.

Speaker 7 (15:11):
You know, it's like, Hey, we don't need to have
forty seven different uniforms. We've got a home and we've
gotten away, and when we're out at practice, we're going
to be We're going to be disciplined and hey, radio guy,
I love that you're here, but can you stand behind
that line because that's what I have the kids do,
and you know, and they actually hit in practice and
I asked him the question about that, and he said, well,
you played linebacker. How do you learn how to tackle

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if you don't tackle once in a while.

Speaker 6 (15:36):
And so.

Speaker 7 (15:37):
It's it's, uh, you know, it's kind of a nineties
brand of football.

Speaker 6 (15:42):
And the kids love him. And it's not just the
Polynesian kids.

Speaker 7 (15:45):
He's got a great following there obviously, but you know,
he's just been really straightforward about name, image and likeness.
It's going to look nothing like what you guys have
going on at Texas. But if you want to clean
locker room and a place to practice and a place
to go get a college degree, you know, go put
your stuff on a less play some football. It's been

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super fun from that standpoint.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
Kevin Richardson, play by play voice of the San Jose
State Spartan's joining us here on the Craigway Show on
thirteen hundred The Zone and from the True Confessions. I
still do a lot of high school football. IVE got
two high school games this week. I still call eight
of the twelve state championship games every year, so I'm still.

Speaker 1 (16:23):
Into it as well.

Speaker 2 (16:25):
And then the other thing I got I have to
a long time ago in the Galaxy far far away.
I also did the play by play for what is
now called FC Dallas.

Speaker 1 (16:35):
Back then they were Dallas Burnham Major League Soccer.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
So I have done games of what was then known
as Spartan Stadium there against the San Jose Earthquakes, and
I remember what a wonderful environment that that edifice is.
It's got to be a great place to call football games.

Speaker 6 (16:50):
You know, it really is. The press boxes outdoor.

Speaker 7 (16:54):
We had Central Michigan in l in Town on Friday,
and I was telling him, I said, look, don't be
surprised when you get here and it's an outdoor press box,
but it won't matter to you because the weather will
be spectacular, so you're you're.

Speaker 6 (17:07):
Close to the action. It is.

Speaker 7 (17:10):
It is a great stadium, especially when the fans turn out.
That becomes a little bit of an issue around here,
just because the Bay Area has gotten so big, and
you know, traffic is a thing that it wasn't twenty
years ago. But yeah, great, great old stadium. They call
it seth Q Stadium now one of the savings and
loans in the area, you know, bought the naming rights.

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But it's a fun place to go watch a football
game on a on a Saturday afternoon.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
You have the advantage of me, sir, and that you've
called a five overtime game. The closest I got was
four with a Texas OU game in the Cop Bowl
a few years ago. What was that like in that
five overtime contest? In the five overtimes, which, which, by
the way, as is accurately listed in the game notes,

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was a Bowl record for approximately thirty six hours until
Toledo beat pit in six overtimes in the game above
Sports Bowl.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
But in the Hawaii Bowl.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
You went five overtimes with USF with South Florida, and
Sark mentioned it yesterday in the news conference is weekly
news conference.

Speaker 7 (18:19):
You know, And as you said that, I realized I've
called two five overtimes.

Speaker 6 (18:23):
One of them is a color guy.

Speaker 7 (18:25):
The hard part on the fifth overtime as a broadcaster
is kind of remembering where you're at right because you're like, oh, gosh,
are we three deep? Are we four deep? On this thing? Ultimately,
it was a gut punch. I sure wish we'd have
gotten that win, especially with coach Mia Mantalolo being a
guy that grew up in Hawaii and a big portion

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of his staff or Hawaii guys, and we had a
lot of locals there, you know, out to support him.
But I tell you, I've kind of gotten into this
mode where I'll say, hey, you know, don't don't sleep
on on on this.

Speaker 6 (19:00):
Guy or that guy. And and uh, you know that.

Speaker 7 (19:03):
USF program South Florida, they kind of showed what they
were about in their opener against Boys and boys is
a lot different without Genty the running back. But uh,
that was a good prize fight. It just the bummer
was we weren't able to get the win.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
Uh, let me get your thought. And I know it
was a heartbreaker as well. The other night in the
in the season opener home against Central Michigan, that was
one that I was watching the hotel in Columbus, uh,
late night, and it looked like it was there for
the taken.

Speaker 6 (19:34):
You know, it really was.

Speaker 9 (19:36):
You know.

Speaker 7 (19:36):
The the hard part about the offense that the Greig
Stutsman runs is if it's working and you've got everything
spread out, it's it's, you know, a knockoff of kind
of the Mike Leach stuff that everybody's familiar with. When
it's working, it's great, and when it isn't, you know,
it can be a problem, especially if it turned the
all over three times in the first half.

Speaker 6 (19:58):
And then I thought it was.

Speaker 7 (19:59):
Really interesting with Central Michigan. They had a couple of
pretty darn good running backs, and of course their new
head coach had been the oc at Army for the
last five years and ran the ball for what three
hundred and twenty one yards a game a year ago
at Army, and you know, they ran the ball well.
They got one hundred yards rushing in the first quarter,
and it thought, oh man, this is going to really

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get ugly. But the defense pulled it together and was
able to able to flow things down a little bit
and just couldn't close it out down down the stretch.
Had a chance twice, you know, a couple of field
goals there that that didn't happen. So it's an interesting
It's an interesting week too because I had you guys

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beating them in Columbus and now you guys are going
to be a little bit salty, obviously, and then you know,
we're trying to, you know, kind of figure out, okay,
what worked, what didn't work. And it's such an interesting
group of five conundrum in terms of when you looked
at stats last week for that game, there were literally

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no stats to look at because any of the good
players have bounced and gone to a power four, and
then the power four guys that have dropped down had
no stats. That's why they're dropping down. And you're putting
them all together and you're trying to figure out, okay,
what does this look like as a team, And it was.
It was an interesting game, one much more so than
they are in an opener in general.

Speaker 1 (21:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:26):
Well, one guy who is a known commodity for you
should quarterback Walker you get and I know, you know
when you have turnovers, those who are unfortunate there, but
he still threw for over three hundred yards and also
had the touchdown pass of forty five yards that was
a career best for him. I put your thoughts on
what he brings to this offense.

Speaker 7 (21:46):
Yeah, Walker is you know I always say what tough is.

Speaker 6 (21:50):
The tough is.

Speaker 7 (21:51):
The back wall of the shooting gallery, right, I mean,
he just hangs in there. He had you know two interceptions,
and he's like a three point shooter. If you missed one,
we'll start shooting because you're going to make one.

Speaker 6 (22:03):
Right. He's done really well.

Speaker 7 (22:06):
He started seven games last year, had about twenty five
hundred yards passing. That was number six in the Mountain West.
He does a lot of things really well. And then
with this offense, as you guys know, those receivers are
reading the routes as they go and run into green
grass or green turf, if you will, and he's he's
he's pretty good. He's ahead of everybody else right now

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because we've got a lot of new receivers. But we've
got a kid, Danny Scadero, that we played against last
year who was at Sacramento State and grew up literally.
I made the comment on Friday night that he was
further from the line of scrimmage than he was to
his house. But he grew up right in the shadows
of Sefkey Stadium there and he had a great night
for us. And so we've got to get a couple

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of more receivers on board like that, and that'll help
those numbers look a lot better. Touchdown the interception ratio,
that was a bit of an issue last year wasn't
quite where you want it, and hopefully maybe we've got
a few of those out of the way.

Speaker 2 (23:03):
In the opener, is it safe to say to Longhorn fans,
if you watch for nobody else on the San Jose State,
watch the guy on defense who wears number one, Jordan Pollard.

Speaker 7 (23:18):
You know what it is, it is safe to say.
I was saying, you know, he was number ten last year.
He dropped that zero and it made it even faster.
He finds his way to the football as an old
inside linebacker. I like watching a good linebacker play, and
he's good. He's not the biggest guy, but he's tough.
Fifteen tackles In the opener, I always kind of throw

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that that that thing out there on the radio, and
I'll say, what's tough for, you know, ten tackles in
a game or one hundred yards rushing and then on
a season a thousand yards rushing over one hundred tackles.
And I'm always leaning into it's harder to get one
hundred tackles because you can't take any of those. You know,
you can't hit the side on any of those tackles, right,
both of them are hard, but ones I think a

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little bit harder. But he's he's good. He's a tough linebacker.
He plays super hard. And uh, there's another outside linebacker,
Tan Yell a lot too who plays pretty hard too,
and they they are as you know, if you've got
a couple of bell cows that people will follow, that
sure helps.

Speaker 6 (24:19):
And those guys are good.

Speaker 2 (24:21):
Uh. The one other guy I want to ask you about,
and I know we probably haven't seen too much action
there for you, but Longhorn fans remember, I'm Larry Turner Gooden,
who was who was a part of the Longhorn uh
program and then transferred in prior to to last season.

Speaker 6 (24:36):
Yeah, isn't that isn't that crazy?

Speaker 8 (24:38):
Right?

Speaker 6 (24:39):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (24:39):
He has kind of transformed his body in the off season,
dropped a little bit.

Speaker 6 (24:46):
Of weight and in a good way and looks pretty good.

Speaker 7 (24:49):
I know, got some got some reps on special teams
last week and a guy that I know that they
think a lot of him. So you know, that is
kind of the the fun I guess if you will,
in this name, image and likeness and transfer portal era
where you know, you get to go back and play
against your former team, so that that that is pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (25:09):
No doubt about it.

Speaker 2 (25:10):
Final thing I wanted to ask you, Kevin, is other
than obviously if you know, if if, if everything aligned
properly and the Spartans are in position for win on Saturday.

Speaker 1 (25:21):
That's one thing. In addition to that, what do you think.

Speaker 2 (25:24):
That coach Neo Matalola wants to see out of his
group this Saturday in the game against Texas.

Speaker 7 (25:31):
You know the part that coach Nea Montalola really leans
into hard, and obviously I think it's probably from the
you know, the academy days, is when you're at the
Naval Academy, you don't get the silly penalty. And in
the second half, I think it was second drive of
the second half. First drive went down and scored. Second drive,

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things are starting to work and they got had a
silly penalty and they had a couple of of misfires like.

Speaker 6 (26:01):
That along the way that I know are really.

Speaker 7 (26:05):
Things that he leans into hard and like, hey, we
have to get these things right and if we don't
get these things right, we won't be as good as
we want to be. The other thing that I know
that he wants is he wants the run game to
be better. Seventy five yards last week, eighty eight per
game last year. He you know, talked about it last
year beginning middle end of season, off season fall camp,

(26:28):
and we didn't run the ball very well. And I
know that he's going to want to see that improve
on Saturday too. And you know, obviously our herculean task
to come in there with one hundred thousand Longhorns fans
that are going to be pretty fired up after what
you guys had to go through last week. But you know,
sometimes those things are super fun for the you know,

(26:49):
the student athletes to go see that stadium full of
one hundred thousand people. So I'm again in nineteen eighty
six when Stanford Playton won thirty one to twenty. I
keep trying to some positivity that way. But we'll see
if that helps it.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
All okay, all right, And by the way, just as
an advisory, not a warning, an advisory, we just let
you know since you were in that visiting radio booth
eight years ago, it's still there.

Speaker 1 (27:14):
It's still in the same spot. Now.

Speaker 2 (27:16):
The stadium is undergoing some renovation. They're going to put
in all new suites that the places where we're working
this Saturday will not be the places where radio is
working starting next year, but that's another story. The photo
deck has kind of been raised up a little bit
so to accommodate the broadcast crews, not just your crew

(27:38):
and my crew, but also even Network TV. They've had
to bring in like riser platforms into our boot to
raise our level up so we could see over the
coaches cameras over the You'll still be able to see it,
but it's it's it's a little bit of an adjustment
to make. I saw it for the first time yesterday
and I was like, Okay, at least we can see.

Speaker 1 (27:58):
So that's I want to give you adds up on that.

Speaker 7 (28:01):
Well, and again, you and I, You and I have
done a lot of high school football, so as long
as I can kind of see everything, everything works out
pretty well. And maybe next time I get on your show,
I can tell you about the old days in Shafter, California,
where I grew up in the neighbor down the street.
My dad was a teacher and a coach, and this
guy down the street was a teacher and a coach,

(28:22):
and he was only there one year, and his name
was Burl McCoy, and he was a great track coach
and of course Colt McCoy's grandfather.

Speaker 6 (28:30):
Yes that story, yes.

Speaker 2 (28:33):
Yes, In fact, Cole is going to be on our
show tonight tomorrow night that we're recording with Coach Stark. Hey,
great to visit with you. I look forward to see
you on Saturday morning. I know the kickoff will be
nine am California time there even eleven am is early
for folks in these parts, but I know it's got

(28:54):
to be a little bit eary. But I look forward
to seeing you on Saturday. And I appreciate you taking
the time today.

Speaker 7 (28:59):
Oh you bet, Thanks for reaching out and again, you
guys are the gold standard. Thanks so much for having
me and it was an honor.

Speaker 1 (29:04):
Thank you. Kevin.

Speaker 2 (29:05):
That is Kevin Richardson, the play by play voice of
the San Jose State Spartans. An hour of the program
here on sports Radio AM thirteen hundred the Zone.

Speaker 1 (29:14):
Glad to have you with us.

Speaker 2 (29:16):
Craig Way alongside the producer Jay Carmon, and we're with
you up until five o'clock. In the first hour of
the program, we visit with Kevin Richardson, play by play
voice of the San Jose State Spartans.

Speaker 1 (29:30):
You know he and I.

Speaker 2 (29:33):
He and I are a lot different in our paths
to our current positions. Dude was a linebacker for Stanford
and now is a very successful financial advisor there on
the South Bay in northern California. And me, I'm just
a radio talking dog. Since the early eighties, I guess

(29:55):
it was that kind of thing.

Speaker 3 (29:56):
Just you know, talking dog as opposed to a broad
casting dog like Peter Herbstreet or a drug sniffing dog
for inconceivable.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
Yeah, there you go. That's a good way to describe it.
The reason why I came up with that term, that
is an old term that sports writers used to have
for radio guys back in the sixties and seventies.

Speaker 5 (30:17):
And sportswriting used to be awesome.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
They were called they referred to as ink stained wretches.
They were an inks. It was a be an ink
stained wretch visiting with a talking dog. My broadcast mentor
my original one, Bill Mercer at North Texas and he
was the Texas Rangers first play by play voice. He

(30:40):
did the Dallas Cowboys in the late sixties, did the
Ice Bowl game and called their first Super Bowl, did
the Chicago White Sox with Harry Carey, did a lot
of things. He was also part of the Greatest Generation.
He served on a gunboat or a landing craft in
the Paci theater of World War Two, was at Okinawa

(31:03):
and iwo Jima and several of those places there. But
lived to be ninety nine. Just passed away a few
months ago. But he was He was the one who
taught the broadcast course in North Texas and when he
did the play by play for the Cowboys in the sixties,
he worked with Blackie Shared, the great sports writer of
the Dallas Times Herald, and he was his color analyst

(31:25):
and they did the Ice Bowl together. Well later, Blackie,
you know, he had told Billy referred to him as
a talking dog, and then Bill's he called me a dog.
That's what radio guys are, talking dogs, and US riders
are ink stained wretches. And later my second boss, or
my second mentor, and my first real heavy duty sports boss,

(31:47):
was Brad Sham, the voice of the Cowboys. He was
my boss for seven years and I produced his show,
his nightly sports talk show. And he had a license
plate on the back of his car that was t
LK Dog for long time and I said, I said,
talking doggie.

Speaker 1 (32:03):
He goes, Oh, you know that there, am I I
learned from Bill Murgcer.

Speaker 2 (32:07):
So yeah, the talking dogs, that's that's that's those of
us these days, the talking dogs, those of you who
choose to talk with us or commune with us via
the tech line.

Speaker 1 (32:18):
We're glad to have you do that.

Speaker 2 (32:20):
Somebody asked if curious if Dave Campbell's Texas Football magazine
has any info in Longview Football more than a few
Lobos in Austin. Well, we're gonna visit with Greg Tepper
here and ask him about Longview because I'm sure if
if you are a Lobo, you know what they're going
through right now with John King, they're outstanding head coach
having to take a lead from the program for cancer treatments,

(32:41):
and of course his son, Haines King, is the quarterback
of Georgia Tech. But we'll ask about it. In fact,
it's interesting you bring that up because I'm gonna be
calling a game this Friday night on the Varsity Sports
Plus app that can be streamed into for free by

(33:02):
the way, into people Live, you know, on your Roku
or you know Apple TV devices into your television. I'm
going to be calling the game this Friday between vander
Griff and Cedar Park. So the victory plus started its
game of the week. Last week had had Alito and
Dett and Gey, and of course I was in Columbus,
so I didn't call that game. But I'm going to
call the game this Friday between vander Griffin and Cedar Park,

(33:26):
and then next Friday, South o'cliff and Longview will be
the game again. South Ocliff beat Galena Park North Shore
over the weekend. They played Duncanville this week, so anyway,
we'll ask Greg Chapper about about Longview. They got also
a good started. They beat Lufkin, long time old rival,
even though Lufkin is now a five A school and
long Views a six A. I think Longvie beat him

(33:48):
something like forty one to sixteen. They kind of dominated
that game. CB saying I love nine am kickoffs. Our
man Cbe, who for a long time lived here in
the Greater Austin area now is a p and you guy,
he's in that Pacific Northwest, so's he'll be watching at
nine am. I'm a little breakfast football from dk R
for CB and Chuck and Houston. Is there an app

(34:11):
any word? Does anybody have suggestions? On how to sink
my voice to your TV during games, Chuck, the easiest
way that I can say to do this and the
reason why I say it like this, And my adorable
wife Linda will be the first to agree with me,
and she'll tell you that if she can do it,

(34:34):
anybody can do it. That's what she says. She's actually
pretty sharp. I'm pretty adept at a lot of things.

Speaker 5 (34:38):
Is this the manual sink?

Speaker 1 (34:40):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (34:41):
Yeah, all you really have to do, Chuck, if you're
just watching the game at home and you're wanting to
sync it up with our call of the game. In
almost every case, if you're listening on the app, or

(35:02):
if you're listening on our affiliate in Houston, it might
have a more difficult time doing it because of real time.
But on the app, the app is going to run
sometimes forty five seconds to a minute behind de pending,
and that would work in your favor because then all
you have to do is pause your live TV, let
it catch up, and then take it off the pause
when it sinks up. Now it'll get off track, it

(35:24):
won't perfectly stay SYNCD, and you'll have to re sink
in a time or two or even a few more
times during the course of a game, especially if you
change channels to check on another score.

Speaker 1 (35:35):
But that is probably the simplest way to do it,
I would imagine.

Speaker 3 (35:37):
But it's great because the breaks are shorter. You get
a lot more while the TV is still at commercial
and you know, once you sink it it will stay
SYNCD for a while. Like you said, you can't promise
it'll stay that way the whole game. It's not quite
like baseball, though, where it's as easy as sinking the
pop of the glove.

Speaker 5 (35:52):
You go. You got to give it a few plays.

Speaker 3 (35:54):
You'll be a spit second earlier late, but once you
get it, it's worth it.

Speaker 8 (35:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:58):
Yeah, so that that would be probably the way to
do it. CB asking what do I remember about thirty
years ago today? Texas was in Hawaii to play the
Rainbow Warriors on that. Yeah, I'll tell you what I
remember about that. It was nineteen ninety five, Ricky Williams's

(36:18):
freshman and we flew out on a charter with the team.
I remember being seated in a middle seat between two
gigantic offensive linemen.

Speaker 1 (36:29):
I remember that as well. But anyway, so we go
out there to do the game.

Speaker 2 (36:34):
The game at the OLDA Loha Stadium, which you know,
they hosted the Pro Bowl for years, and that's where
Hawaii played for a long time. They've moved on campus
now they're playing about seventeen thousand stet Campus Stadium. It's
pretty close to the action there where they play in Manoa,
just you know, the suburbs Ofwaii of Honolulu. But they

(36:56):
used to play in the OLDA Loha Stadium. So we
show up up on Saturday. It's gonna be a night
game Hawaii time, like maybe maybe it was going to
kick off like about five and then I think it
was going to be like ten o'clock Central Time or
something like that, because it's a five hour time difference
in the early autumn or late summer.

Speaker 1 (37:19):
And so.

Speaker 2 (37:21):
We pull into the parking lot in the afternoon and
begin to set up well that parking lot. That stadium
also doubled as a flea market on Saturdays, even game day.
And let me tell you, there were people that parking
lot parking lot who were not about to let a
football game get in the way of their flea market.

Speaker 1 (37:38):
We're gonna have that, So that was a little bit
of a challenge.

Speaker 2 (37:40):
But anyways, we do the game, and the game's over,
and after the game, Bill Shooning wanted to, you know,
let's go somewhere we can grab a bike to eat
or a beverage or something like that, and said, okay.
So he pulls into what looks like a karaoke bar,

(38:00):
and I said, is this where we're He goes, I'm
going to park the car, go in and order me
whatever it was. So walk in and they lead us
down this long, dark corridor and on both sides of
us are booths and entire families are in there doing karaoke.
So it was. It was a weird vibe at a
strange scene. But that's what I also remember about that game.

(38:21):
Texas won handily. They won thirty eight seventeen, and the
Ricky Williams era was underway.

Speaker 3 (38:26):
You start doing karaoke in Hawaii, you're going to find
yourself in forgetting Sarah Marshall krat right.

Speaker 1 (38:30):
That's not me, not me, And so I stayed away
from that.

Speaker 6 (38:33):
All right.

Speaker 2 (38:34):
Up next, we'll talk some football in the state of
Texas with Greg Tepper, editor in chief Dave campbells Texas
Football Magazine.

Speaker 1 (38:40):
When we continue on thirteen under the Zone.

Speaker 2 (38:42):
On a Texan Tuesday using at three o'clock hour bump
back with the iconic will and Nelson, And that is
Willie's voice on there, along with Waylon Jennings, another native
Texan of the Mamas.

Speaker 1 (38:53):
Don't let your Baby score out to be Cowboys.

Speaker 2 (38:56):
Greg Tepper, the editor in chief of Dave Campbell's Texas
Football Magazine, not only is the native Texan, he's a
former cowboy. He's a former copel cowboy. As he joins
us on the line, is he just slid you right
in there with legends like Whalan and Willie.

Speaker 10 (39:14):
That's why they pay you the big bucks man. But nobody,
I'll be honest, anybody who's ever met me that like,
who was was kind of seeing where.

Speaker 6 (39:21):
You were going.

Speaker 10 (39:22):
They were like, certainly he's not going to think that
this city slicker is some sort of some sort of
roughneck out there.

Speaker 9 (39:29):
No.

Speaker 10 (39:30):
No, it's merely merely a mascot. Uh, merely a team
of a football team that I that I was a
part of briefly. So yes, that's I am. I am
a cowboy, but but certainly not in the ways that
that that are going to be recognizable around these parts.

Speaker 2 (39:44):
But you were if undersized you were an offensive lineman
at Copell, were you not?

Speaker 10 (39:50):
I was? I was an undersized, undersized, uh and under
talented offensive lineman. I was the world's best backup guard,
is what my mom would tell people.

Speaker 1 (40:00):
So so yeah, I was.

Speaker 10 (40:01):
An injurier linement too. I mean, you want to talk
about dirty work you're doing. You're doing the thankless job.
Those those pre Madonna's out of the tackle spots.

Speaker 1 (40:09):
That's you know, that's not me.

Speaker 10 (40:10):
No, I'm in there grinding away on three techs.

Speaker 1 (40:14):
So you were you You were not a hog Molley,
you were just a Molly. Is that what you're saying?

Speaker 6 (40:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (40:20):
I was, uh, yeah, I was, you know, maybe a
piglet Molly something like that, something along those lines. The
much much, much smaller and I'm not going to fetch
anything at auction, I'll say that much.

Speaker 2 (40:31):
I'm going to tell you this, I'm going I'm gonna
put you in the category of most famous guys who
were offensive linemen in high school and realized that that
was not their future and went on to become much
bigger and better. The two guys that come to mind

(40:52):
are you and Phil Dawson from Lake Highlands, who had
a much more storied career as a placekicker than it
is a one hundred and seventy five pound offensive lineman
for the Lake Islands Wildcats.

Speaker 10 (41:04):
Yeah yeah, but I will say that for Phil Dawson,
I would say that, you know, we obviously both went
into the football world, just continued to use as athleticism.
I just said, hey, you know what, it seems like
these these writers can get into football games for free.
That seems like fun. And the rest, as they say,
is history.

Speaker 1 (41:23):
No doubt about. Okay.

Speaker 2 (41:24):
So, since we're on the subject of writing about this
on your outstanding website at Dave Candell's Texas Football, go
to Texas Football dot com. You're going to read this stuff.
You're going to subscribe and get all the great stuff.
I was interested to see what your Texas FBS Power
poll was after the results of the weekend, and I
and I've looked over the rankings there and it gave

(41:46):
me an idea to ask you which of these Texas
schools had the most impressive performance of the weekend.

Speaker 1 (41:55):
Would it have been.

Speaker 2 (41:58):
Could it have been Texas State scoring twenty eight of
the first thirty one points in the second half to
pull away from Eastern Michigan. Could it have been the
Rice Owls who won in Lafayette, Louisiana despite not scoring
in three or four quarters, they did still win the game.

Speaker 1 (42:16):
Was it either of those two?

Speaker 2 (42:19):
Could it have been TCU, which just made Build Belichick's
debut look pretty smelly? Or if we were to venture
outside of the FBS ranks, I would submit to you
Charleton States win in double overtime at Army FCS beating
FBS by the way, which moved them from number ten

(42:40):
to number five in the FCS national polls.

Speaker 1 (42:42):
Which route would you go on?

Speaker 4 (42:43):
This?

Speaker 9 (42:44):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (42:45):
I think that you know, when you take a look
at what Tarleton did there at Mighty Stadium up there
in New York, that is really impressive. And I know
that like the Service academies, they did really vary widely
from year to year. It's not long ago that Army
was a chic pick to that people were saying they

(43:06):
got to put them in the college football playoffs. They
they've fallen off. But but if you're Tarleton, you don't
apologize for a SBS road win that is that is wildly,
wildly impressive for Todd wins Bunch, and I think that
this is a real springboard for them going into you
know an SCS section where now, by the way, there

(43:28):
are now four teams ranked in in Texas in there
as far as Tarleton State, they're you mentioned, they're up
to I believe, tied for number three in the in
the coaches poll. They have looked every but part Avelene
Christian's still hanging in there. Uh, this is a Stephen F.
Austin is ranked as well. This is a really good
year for SYS and this is quite a way to

(43:50):
kick things off. The other answer, I think, of course,
would be ECU and what they did last night and
and after a rocky, I would say, kind of tepid
start to their game, they hit the Jets and you
saw Josh Hoover put on a virtue of so performance.

(44:10):
You saw Kavorian Warns, the USA tranfer, the former Saint
Augustine Wolf who was pretty much unstoppable. There's gonna be
a lot of talk about what's wrong with Bill Belichick's
team at North Carolina, because obviously he's a big name.
But I think that the conversation should be what's right

(44:31):
with TCU, because I'll tell you that you take a
look at this roster construction. I read somebody say this
last night or heard somebody say this last night. As
far as a roster construction is concerned, it does kind
of feel like the talent on campus is back up
to that level it was in twenty twenty two when
they played for a College Footall Playoff national championship. Now
I'm not predicting they're going to make them the college

(44:53):
football Playoffs, but I will say that I thought you
saw a TCU program that is dead set on proving
at the last couple of years are much farther from
their standard than the ones that you saw the previous
one there in twenty twenty two when they were one
of the final two teams in the country.

Speaker 2 (45:11):
Yeah, could you say that in a similar light about
Baylor as they try to climb their way back. They
were competitive against Auburn, but too many mistakes and they
wound up and also allowed three hundred and seven rushing yards,
which is what Auburn's mo is to try to choose
to grind.

Speaker 1 (45:28):
It out on you.

Speaker 10 (45:30):
That I think is the real red flag for me
for them, because you think about this, this Baylor team
and we know that their offense was a little bit
banged up. They're now down basically the running back three
at the price of Washington went out. Dulpin Pendergrad, I
believe is already out, so they're down to running back three.
But to me, there's not an excuse to give up

(45:51):
three hundred yards in the ground. I mean, you know
that's what they want to do. And if you're Dave Randa,
you know you were hired because you are a defensive mastermind.
You're hired because you're offensive star. And to give up
that amount to the to then Auvern offense that you know,
by all accounts is not going to be necessarily punching

(46:11):
in the same weight classes a lot of their sec
of you know, counterparts. I think that for Baylor this.

Speaker 6 (46:17):
This is a bit of a red slag.

Speaker 10 (46:18):
Offensively, I think they'll get healthy. They made some mistakes offensively,
I think they can clean that up. But I think
that the more lasting problem may be on the defensive
side if they're not able to figure things out in
that front seven, because otherwise the Big twelve will absolutely
push you around. There's a number of teams there in
the Big twelve that are going to have the kind
of running backs running game that can do it, most

(46:39):
notably the team we saw last night in CCU. You
don't think the TCU is looking their chops at that
after what they did in North Carolina. Baylor's got to
figure out what they're going to do with their run defensive,
I think in a hurry.

Speaker 1 (46:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (46:51):
And then and then also, and this is an interesting diconomy,
isn't it. Their next opponent is another powerful opponent, but
not from the Big Twelve. They play SMU, and they
were what would you say, a little less than impressive
and beating East Texas A and M. He turned it
over three times as well, But it's kind of a
get well week for either one whichever team wins.

Speaker 10 (47:13):
Yeah, I think for sm U, basically they were they
were I don't want to say they were lucky they
were playing East Texas A and M. But they play
a relatively sloppy game, I would say, by att Lashley standers,
and it didn't cost them playing simple because they like
they were playing a team that they were just a
lot better than. They got a great game from from
Kevin Jennings, but they were not able to run the

(47:34):
ball all that well. And and you know, they were
just kind of slopping here and there, you know, Kevin
Jennings through an interception. They fumbled the ball three twice.
I don't know, they missed a number of tackles, they
gave up two hundred and forty four yards passing.

Speaker 2 (47:50):
I don't know.

Speaker 10 (47:51):
I think for for you know, I think there's a
reason that you kind of ease into the East in
the schedule like you do, like like they did with
East Texas A and M. It's kind of the same
way that like Texas Tech did right when they absolutely
molly wopped, you know, our Arkansas pine Bluff. That to
me gives you an opportunity to work out some of
the kinks in a low station environment, as opposed to

(48:13):
if you're Baylor and you come out flat against Auburn, well,
Auburn can beat you. You know that I think is
what you ended up seeing and why I think. I
think SMU probably got away with one that they probably
didn't play as well as they thought they were going to.
They got away with it because they're just a lot
better than East Texas A and M. They will need
to be better this week if they're going to move to.

Speaker 2 (48:33):
And No, Okay, since you were talking about issues with
run defense like Baylor.

Speaker 1 (48:37):
That brings us to Texas.

Speaker 2 (48:38):
A and M, who looked really sparkling on offense, Marcel
Reed looked really good.

Speaker 1 (48:42):
But what defense let the little something to be desired?

Speaker 10 (48:47):
Yeah, I would give A and M, you know, overall
a B minus on their opening on their opening week. Look,
you don't apologize for wins, and you won forty two
twenty four. However, you know, look, this is a team
that they gave up six yards to carry. I mean,
Robert Henry went nuts on them, you know, and it
had had a great game. They were able to really

(49:09):
I think if you are an A and M fan,
what you're decided about on the defensive side, if you
were able to get pressure on McCown, you were able
to make him a little bit uncomfortable in the backfield,
make him run around a little bit. Uh. And but
then you know, from a running back, running game perspective,
you know there were there were some problems they got.
They got to clean that up because again, sec they're

(49:31):
gonna we know what they're gonna want to do.

Speaker 7 (49:32):
Now.

Speaker 10 (49:33):
I do think that if you are you know, we've
said the entire offse we got to be make sure,
we're We're very honest about this that you know, a
lot of this season is going to come down to
Marcel Reid. If that's kind of Marcel read to get
and it's gonna be just fine.

Speaker 7 (49:44):
You know.

Speaker 10 (49:44):
Fantastic, fantastic opener. You know, two or eight nine yards,
four touchdowns passing the receiver core on the new look
receiver corps looked really, really strong. They didn't need a
ton from Le'Veon loss. You know, he only carried the
ball three times. Uh, this is to me offensively pretty sparkling.
I would say, pretty darn good. But I would say

(50:05):
you're right that the front seven there, which I think
we had some concerns of the linebacker corps basically outside
of Tory and New York, they kind of came to
bear in the opener. They will need to they'll need
to get right before they get into the heart of
SEC play. They should be favored this week into Utah
State there, although Notre Dame's coming to town.

Speaker 2 (50:24):
But before I get to high school, I should point
out that in the Dave Campbell's Texas Football Magazine FBS
Power Poll, Texas is still number one even with the
one record.

Speaker 1 (50:37):
So I take it.

Speaker 2 (50:38):
You and Mike Craven and the staff are not among
those with pitchforks and flaming torches and stuff at the doors,
at least metaphorically. Speaking of either Arch Manning and or
Steve Sarkisian this week.

Speaker 10 (50:54):
Allow me to speak as somebody from outside the Austin
kind of area, and just like, look at it outside.
Y'all know Ohio State's trying to win that game too, right, Like,
you know, that's a pretty good team. They went out
there and they played well. I think that at Texas.
Look was artbanning everything that everybody went in to be

(51:15):
right out of the shoot? No. Do I have concerns
about the offensive line, Yeah? Do I have concerns about
the receiver corps? Yeah, I think so. I think there
were some times where the Ohio State defensive back were
running the route spot. Texas receivers don't need to get right.
But look what we said from the from the get go,
unless you go out there and you get blasted into
the sun, everything that Texas wants to do is still

(51:37):
right there in front of them. They're still in the
driver's seat to grab a college football playoff spot. They are,
you know, a one score loss on the road at
what is now the number one team in the nation.
I don't think that that doesn't disqualify them from every
for anything. Now they got to get right and they
got to figure things out offensively, and I think I
think that they're going to be an ononus on Steve's

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our keysing to be a little bit more creative, because
it kind of did look like Ryan Day and Matt
Patricia had the Texas game plan in their back pocket
for them. But I think that if you're Texas, it's
going to be easy to overreact to one week, and
I love doing it too. But but Top to Break
is a very good Ohio State team. You'd rather be
want to know that oh to one. But the way
that it went, I don't think necessarily needs to spark

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any sort of panic for the longrune.

Speaker 2 (52:23):
Visiting with Greg Tepper, editor in chief Tape Campbell's Texas
Football magazine, Arts jumped to high school fill in the blank.
For me, the most mind blowing result from Week one
of the Texas high school football season was.

Speaker 10 (52:37):
Who the couple? Okay, my hipster answer is going to
be fort Art Diamond Hill Jarvis beating fort Arick South
Hills because, for those who don't know, Diamond Hill Jarvis
nopped a forty six game losing streak. They had not
won a game in twenty nineteen, and first year coach

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Ierwin Garcia is now one to oher and maybe the
first one and oh coach in Diamond Hill Jarvis's history.
Uh so, so that that certainly caught my eye. But
there were a couple of them, and I think that
it's kind of unfortunately it's going to end up talking
saying something quite a while. One of them is what
happened on Saturday. It might have flown under the radar

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for people who are watching college football, but Dickinson pretty
much stuffed Katie in a locker uh at Legacy Stadium.
And I think that this might be Dickinson's best team
in years. But for Katie that is an inauspicious start
to the season. I think that's one thing that.

Speaker 1 (53:33):
Caught my eye.

Speaker 10 (53:34):
South o Cliffs beating Glena Park North Shore and really
kind of controlling that game from the word go is
really impressive. South Oak Cliffs a team that we have
high hosts for, but again it's a five A Division
two playing a six eight and not just six A
A six A Division one. Northshore has I think four
times the enrollment that that South Oakcliffe does. And yeah,

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South Oakloff went out there and really really very very them.

Speaker 1 (54:00):
That was one of them.

Speaker 10 (54:01):
And then there's one other that I would say closer
to home. I would say when you take a look
at what PROFFERD is Austin west Lake wildly wildly impressive
from the Eagles that was highly, highly impressed what they
were able to do controlling the line of scrimmage. We
knew they were going to be very good up front,
one of the best offensive lines in Texas. They looked

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very very good in their win over Westlake. Not time
to hit the panic button for Westlake, but I think
for Prosper they've got to be brimming with confidence.

Speaker 1 (54:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (54:28):
If I were to ask you which group of results
surprises you more, the KD loss to Dickinson and Northshoer
loss to South oak Cliff, or that's Greater Houston or
Westlake losing to Prosper and Vandergriff getting thumbed by dripping springs.
Which group which market center's loss has surprised you more?

Speaker 10 (54:53):
Yeah, it might be the Austin area. You know, you
mentioned Westlake obviously high expectations, but you know this is
you know, for Westlake, they they they want to go
out there and start I believe you know, this is
the first time in quite a while that that that
Westlake starts on one. And then for vander Grift, you know,
look now that that match and to kind of give

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them trouble. And yet I would also take a look
at the way that it went. That to me is
what is impressive to me about what Driven Springs did
that they you mentioned it, they kind of stumped them.

Speaker 7 (55:28):
I mean it was.

Speaker 10 (55:29):
Wildly impressed forty one to fourteen, and specifically they were
able to do essentially anything they wanted defensively. I mean
they held milef to Decky under two hundred yards. They
you know, I mean Vangridd ran for something like forty
three yards in the entire game. And yet you also
saw new quarterback k Thames step up in a big

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way for Driving Springs. I think for Drip that is
a really impressive opener and an opening salvo there to
you know, take down the defending state champs. A chance
they play each other again in the playoffs. But for now,
for Driff, they are feeling it because that was a
really impressive victory on Friday night.

Speaker 1 (56:08):
One more thing I want to ask you about.

Speaker 2 (56:10):
We had somebody on the text on asked this question
and they wanted to know what your impressions were of
how things were going in Longview. Now, they won handily
Overlooked and the other night, but we know about John
King's medical commission and having a step away for cancer
treatments as well. They have Marshall this week and then
I've got them the next week against South oak cliff
On the victory plus.

Speaker 1 (56:31):
Game which ought to be a donny Brook.

Speaker 2 (56:33):
But what is your impression from what you know and
what from Matt step knows and visiting with the King
family and the program right now?

Speaker 10 (56:43):
Yeah, you know, obviously, you know, coach John King is
not just you know, a football coach. He's really just
kind of a figure in that community in a big way.
And so anytime you're able to lose anytime, anytime you
lose a guy like that, you obviously, you know, feel
like what is one of the things going to go?
I thought what you saw on Friday night was really

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emblematic of that Longview style because Lufkin jumped out to
an early lead. I want to say Lukkin might have
been up you know, two scores early in that game,
and then Longview roared back and they did it in
such long View fashion where they ran for four one
hundred and ninety four yards in the game. Johnny Hamilton,

(57:29):
their quarterback, had a great game as well. But you
saw I think that Lovo toughness and that Lovo resolve
and essentially, you know, the coaching staff pulling these guys
together and saying, guys, let's go out there and be
a Longview. That's the best thing we can do. It
sued enough. It showed up in a big way, you know,
averaging nearly seven yards carry in their win over over Lufkin.

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That to me is going to serve them. This is
where to we talked about a guy who's larger than
the life there in John King in his absence. What
you know is a culture, and the good thing for
Longview is that there are very few programs in Texas that,
thanks in large parts coach King and its coaching staff,
there are very few programs in Texas that have the

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kind of culture to lean on that the logos will
be able to for however long that he is unable
to be out there on the sideline for as much
as you want. So I thought that that was a
real statement there for for Longview to say, hey, yeah,
you know, we're without the guy you're you've seen on
the sideline, but at the same time things, we're still
long to you. And I think that was a real

(58:31):
message they sent, was that we are still long to you.
You're still going to have to basically find a way
to stop us running it down your throat.

Speaker 2 (58:37):
He's Greg Temper, editor in chief Dave Campbe's Texas Football Magazine.
As the course starting that brand news show with Ashley
Pickle Dave Campbell's Texas Football Tonight. Are you are you
two calling it the after party or is that just
labeling you've got on your website?

Speaker 10 (58:52):
You know, it's it's kind of a nicknack, you know,
it's kind of like the Craig The Craig Way Show.
Is the is the pre party? You know what I mean? Right,
we're the after party, you know what I mean? So
that it sets Football Tonight. But but yeah, just come
and party with us, kick your feet up and come
hang with us. Tuggle ball first show go really well, yeah,
I had a great time, got some scores in and

(59:12):
things flying around. It's hectic around the state of Texas,
but we're really excited about what we.

Speaker 2 (59:20):
Got going, all right, And you can catch it there
at Texas Football dot Com all the details and you
extreme it for free as well.

Speaker 1 (59:27):
Hey, I appreciate it. Have a good week.

Speaker 2 (59:29):
We'll visit again, all right. That's Greg Tepper. He is
the editor in chief Dave Campus Texas Football Magazine. Yeah,
he and Ashley Pickle do that. For those of you
who've asked me and asked Greg and ask Pickle and
ask a lot of people. What about the show that
all were doing on FanDuel, As we mentioned a couple
of times, it doesn't exist anymore because fan Duel or

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their parent company that runs it got out of the
business of wanting to do high school sports. So that
show was twenty eight years and I did twenty five
of it and really enjoyed it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:03):
But that show is no longer in existence.

Speaker 2 (01:00:07):
So I'm doing a Game of the Week on the
Victory Plus Sports app and which will e Vandergrid Sea
to Park this week, and that's for free, and that's
streaming there wherever you.

Speaker 1 (01:00:22):
Stream it through your Roku or Wrapple TV.

Speaker 2 (01:00:25):
However, you get your your televised product stream to you
and they Tepper and Pickle do Dave Campbell's Texas Football tonight,
so they have a wrap up show that starts at
ten thirty. All right, coming up, we'll update that ap
top twenty five college poet when we continue on thirteen
under the zone.

Speaker 1 (01:00:44):
A couple of.

Speaker 2 (01:00:46):
Questions on the text line, so it says not to
be a humbler brag, but speaking of a hy as
we were, I'll be there later this week. I'll be
able to watch the Cowboys get their teeth kicked in
while on the beach Thursday and enjoying early morning beach
stroll on Saturday with you in the game. In my years,
I appreciate that that means six am the kickoff time
Hawaii time for Texas and San Jose State.

Speaker 5 (01:01:08):
Could you even go to sleep before that?

Speaker 1 (01:01:11):
You wonder six am? Persons.

Speaker 2 (01:01:14):
One way to know if you have it sink perfectly,
because Chuck was asking about that is when there's a
penalty and you see the ref talking and the radio
feet of the ref is perfect, it's a great feeling.

Speaker 3 (01:01:24):
Well that assumes that the ref's mic works unlike what
was happening in the game on Saturday.

Speaker 1 (01:01:28):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's some of that as well. And
then someone to mention, have you mentioned the AP pole?

Speaker 2 (01:01:32):
I think Texas moved down too much for losing close game,
losing close game on the road, which brings us to
the brand new AP Top twenty five pole. Ohio State
did jump into the number one spot, garnering fifty five
of the sixty three first place votes. Penn status two,
LSU number three, Georgia's four, Miami is fifth, Oregon is six,

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and Texas falls to number seven. Now to the Texters
question about them falling for losing a road game. Those
other six schools at them, we're all pretty impressive. If
you could make a case about any of them saying this,
should they have been ahead of Maybe it might be
Oregon the other ones. Miami be the top ten in
Notre Dame, albeit at home. Georgia won handily. We know

(01:02:17):
they're very good. LSU I think had the most impressive
win of the week, going to Clemson and beating fourth
rank Clemson. Penn State did its number on Nevada, and
Ohio State of course got the win over Texas.

Speaker 1 (01:02:28):
Rest of the top ten. Clemson is eight, Notre Dame
is nine.

Speaker 2 (01:02:31):
In South Carolina at number ten, followed by Illinois, Arizona State, Florida,
Florida State, Michigan, Iowa State SMU is seventeen. Oklahoma stayed
at eighteen. Oklahoma place Michigan. This week, Texas A and
m nineteen stayed at nineteen. Ole Miss moved up once

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spot the twenty and then Alabama fell from number eight
to number twenty one after the loss at Florida State.
And again we're going to visit coming up up next
hour with Jeff Colhayne played by play voice of the
Floria State Seminoles. Then it's Tennessee, Indiana, Texas Tech, and Utah.
That's the new AP Top twenty five. Let's hear from

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Arch Banning. He was made available yesterday. As you might imagine,
he said, the key when you come off and win
like that is to shelvit, to learn from it, and
to endeavor to improve.

Speaker 6 (01:03:24):
Yeah, obviously.

Speaker 4 (01:03:27):
You don't like losing, especially the opening week going on one,
but you know the sun comes up and it's time
to attack Santurday State and can't duel in the past.
Not gonna help me or help the team. So you
got to learn from it and get better and attack
this week.

Speaker 2 (01:03:40):
One thing that Sarks said in the news conference yesterday
when he was asked about Arch and the fundamentals, a
lot of people were saying that he looked like he
was slinging it and body turns, and Sarks said that
had a lot to do with foot placement. It's a
fundamental thing. And so Arch was asked, were his fundamentals
at times out of place?

Speaker 4 (01:03:59):
Yeah, You're always trying to, you know, get better each
week and go back to scare one. Fundamentals obviously got
to hit Ryan late in the game. I kind of
looked back for him. So just continue to get better
each week and perfect my craft.

Speaker 2 (01:04:10):
So were there things that he liked about his craft
and ultimately his performance.

Speaker 4 (01:04:15):
Yeah, I mean there wasn't much to like, but I
think I'm proud of the guys. I thought we battle back.

Speaker 8 (01:04:23):
For the most part.

Speaker 4 (01:04:24):
Just I gotta play better.

Speaker 1 (01:04:26):
For us to win.

Speaker 2 (01:04:27):
And that brings it to the next point. How hard
does he feely needs to be on himself following the
performance like that in a loss like that, I hold.

Speaker 6 (01:04:36):
Myself to a high standard.

Speaker 4 (01:04:38):
Recognize I gotta play better, gotta lead more, gotta get
our guys to play well around me, and ultimately wasn't
good enough.

Speaker 2 (01:04:46):
So yeah, I am hard on myself. All right, that's
some sound for march manding. We'll hear some more coming
up next hour. We'll be back to wrap up hour number.
I'm thirteen under the zone. Craig Way with you alongside
of the producer Jay Carman. Glad to have you with
us here on a Tuesday afternoon. Coming up but a
few minutes, we'll visit with Jeff Colhayne, play by play
voice of the Florida State seminoles. Get his take on

(01:05:07):
the atmosphere and the environment and all that surrounded Florida
State's dominating performance in beating the Alabama Crimson Tide thirty
one seventeen on Saturday, late afternoon in the evening there
in Tallahassee. So we'll get his thoughts on that. We're
also going to hear more from march Manning here this hour,

(01:05:28):
coming off the loss. So we'll hear more from Arch
and we'll certainly continue to take your questions, your thoughts,
your comments on our text line. All you have to
do is text the word texas followed by your question,
comment to eight one five to three zero. Text the

(01:05:49):
word Texas follow by your question and comment to eight
one five three zero. Standard messaging and data rates may
apply on the text line. Somebody said, Hey, Texas State
versus UTSA looks like fun this week.

Speaker 1 (01:06:02):
Yeah, that could be.

Speaker 2 (01:06:05):
One of the better games on the college football calendar,
believe it or not, this week. That could be an
awful lot of fun. So it'll be that's one last year.
Remember it was kind of stunning the way that Texas
State dominated the game in winning, handiling that game. So

(01:06:31):
I know it's stunned a lot of people the way
that they dominated that game. But this game will be
in the Alamodome Saturday afternoon. It's a two point thirty kickoff,
so that'll be going on after that. And that was
after UTSA gave a respectable account of itself losing the
Texas A and M forty two twenty four by the way,
if you didn't see it. And I really enjoy watching

(01:06:55):
Scott Van Pelt doing Sports Center, very entertaining inform and
he's got unique takes on things.

Speaker 3 (01:07:01):
I think I got the chance to meet him at
an Italian restaurant right before I moved out here to Texas.

Speaker 2 (01:07:06):
Oh yeah, because he's a DC guy, that's right. Yeah, yeah,
and a good guy too. I a chance to visit
with him once before. He about lost his mind recapping
that Texas A and m Utsa game. Why because he
does that little segment where he does on Thursday nights
where he tells you which games to pick and which
ones you should take and not take. And he said

(01:07:29):
he was going to go with UTSA and take the
eighteen points. A and M was spotted where it was
thirteen and a half and A and M was up
forty two to seventeen. They were up by twenty five, and.

Speaker 1 (01:07:45):
I guess it was. I guess it was. The line
was twenty.

Speaker 2 (01:07:49):
Three and a M was up by twenty five, and
UTSA scored the late touchdown to get it underneath, to
get it to the number where he said, take the
take the under take Utsa in the.

Speaker 5 (01:08:03):
Points heavens to Betsy.

Speaker 1 (01:08:04):
So yeah, yeah, it's so about lost it on that.

Speaker 2 (01:08:08):
But anyway, yeah, I think that's going to be a
good ballgame, Texas stated Utsa.

Speaker 1 (01:08:13):
It's worth keeping an eye.

Speaker 6 (01:08:15):
On that line.

Speaker 5 (01:08:16):
By the way, UTSA about a five point favorite.

Speaker 2 (01:08:20):
That sounds about right, I would think, especially in the Alamodome.
I think that probably makes sense. You had a couple
of interesting college football notes, did you not?

Speaker 3 (01:08:29):
So Alabama dropped down to number twenty one, like you know,
did one spot ahead of Tennessee in that AP top
twenty five poll. It was actually week two of two
thousand and eight, the last time Alabama was ranked outside
the top twenty and actually ranked in the twenties.

Speaker 2 (01:08:46):
Nick Saban's second year, I think I think O seven
was his first year when they lost to Uel Monroe
that year.

Speaker 5 (01:08:53):
That's right?

Speaker 3 (01:08:54):
Were they beat Clemson Week one the two thousand and
eight season. This was the year they went on to
lose the Secchampionship game to Florida. Yeah, anyway, Tropic Thunder
is your number one movie?

Speaker 5 (01:09:05):
What a terrible movie?

Speaker 1 (01:09:08):
Well, it falls into the great bad category. Put it
that way.

Speaker 3 (01:09:11):
Disturbia was the number one song this according to Cruz
Hocks and Rider Alabama Twitter account.

Speaker 1 (01:09:16):
Okay, all right, George W.

Speaker 3 (01:09:18):
Bush was the president. Yes, I was eight years old,
which means Ryan Williams was only one.

Speaker 1 (01:09:24):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:09:25):
Oh how about that? It's amazing. Here's a couple of
notes with regard to the new ap pole. Like we said,
Texas fell to number seven in the rankings. Ohios, Tate
jumped to number one. This was only the second time
and the first time since nineteen seventy two that two

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top five teams lost in Week one Texas and Clemson,
and the first time ever that four top ten.

Speaker 1 (01:09:56):
Teams lost in the first week.

Speaker 3 (01:09:58):
You said it was the greatest Week one late seen
in a long time. So there was going to be
some top ten teams losing. Three for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:10:04):
We knew because there were three had to add matchups,
and I don't think anybody expected Alabama A not to lose,
but B to get throttled the way they did.

Speaker 1 (01:10:14):
So yeah, there were some anomalies. There was something something different.

Speaker 2 (01:10:19):
Only three teams in the top twenty five are in
the same spot they were in in the preseason poll.

Speaker 5 (01:10:25):
I think my dad was having an out of body
experience watching that Alabama game.

Speaker 1 (01:10:28):
Oh yeah, yeah, that's right.

Speaker 2 (01:10:30):
Well, the biggest movers were Florida State and Alabama. The
Seminoles were fifteen spots outside the top twenty five. There
were fourteen teams ahead of them in the others receiving
votes category, and they make their debut in at number fourteen,
just behind Florida Crimson Tide fell as we mentioned, all

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the way from number eight to number twenty one, and
that's their lowest ranking.

Speaker 1 (01:10:57):
That two pointed out.

Speaker 2 (01:10:57):
Satama was number twenty four in two thousand and eight
preseason poll, the second of Nick Saban's seventeen teams in Tuscalusha. Remember,
the Seminoles were number ten in the preseason last year,
lost the first two games finished to and ten weren't
ranked again until now. Utah number twenty five, joints Florida State,
is the only newcomers in the poll. The Utes are

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ranked for the first time since last October, when they
were on the front end of a seven game losing streak.

Speaker 1 (01:11:24):
They blasted Ucla. They handled Ucla.

Speaker 2 (01:11:28):
Utah had received the second most points behind BYU among
teams outside the preseason top twenty five, but it got
more credit for beating UCLA on the road than the
Cougars did for hammering Portland State, who had lost at
home to Tarleton State the week before. Boise, which had
been number twenty five, just got absolutely whacked by South Florida.

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Not only did they drop out of the top twenty five,
they didn't get any votes and not even in the
others receiving and fall one and completely out other team
to drop out of the pole. Kansas State. They had
the season opening loss in Pharmageddon over in Ireland. A
couple of weeks goes we know to Iowa State, and
then they really struggled to beat North Dakota, which is

(01:12:15):
a transitional left CS program moving Division two to Division one,
and they got that with that last second touchdown to
win it.

Speaker 3 (01:12:22):
That game was back and forth throughout. I'm a little
confused as to why they're still receiving votes after that
big time scare in the Little Apple.

Speaker 9 (01:12:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:12:30):
By the way, they fall for the Longhorns from number
one to number seven. That is the biggest fall for
a preseason number one since Auburn dropped the number eight
in the first regular season pole back in nineteen eighty four.
So a couple other things, LSU with its highest ranking
since it was number three and twenty twelve, Miami its
highest ranking after week one since it was number five

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twenty one years ago two thousand and four, and South
Carolina in the top ten in the regular season for
the first time since the We're number eight in December
of twenty thirteen. They're ten SEC teams ranked numbers three, four, seven, ten, thirteen, eighteen, nineteen, twenty,
twenty one and twenty two six Big ten schools one, two, six, eleven, fifteen,

(01:13:15):
and twenty thirty.

Speaker 5 (01:13:16):
Can you tell me why Illinois eleven?

Speaker 1 (01:13:19):
You mean you think they should be higher or lower?

Speaker 6 (01:13:23):
Lower?

Speaker 2 (01:13:23):
Okay, we'll find out more about it. Wait, will wait
a longer time. ACC has four teams numbers five, eight, fourteen,
and seventeen. Big twelve is four teams twelve, sixteen, twenty
four and twenty five one independent.

Speaker 1 (01:13:35):
That's Notre Dame number nine.

Speaker 2 (01:13:37):
And uh, there's only one ranked versus ranked game this week,
Michigan in Oklahoma, number fifteen against number eighteen. It's the
first time since Oklahoma beat Michigan in the Orange Bowl
January first, nineteen seventy six. It was fifty years ago,
fifty seasons ago, nineteen seventy five national champions.

Speaker 1 (01:14:00):
If I remember one of the big stars at Oklahoma team.

Speaker 2 (01:14:02):
One of the of the Selman brothers, I know that,
and then I think Jimbo l Rod, big star for
the Sooners of that one, and Wolverine's freshman quarterback Bryce
Underwood will be put to the test in his second start.
All right, So there's some college football notes to set
the stage for a conversation with a play by play
voice of the Florida State Seminoles as Jeff Colhayne, And

(01:14:25):
that's next. I'm thirteen under his own in our next
guest is not a native Texan, and in fact he's
from the heartland of America. And I first met him
when he was plying his trade working with the Nebraska
Cornhoscredio Network. Then to West Virginia, where we spent a

(01:14:46):
lot of time together, and when Texas and West Virginia
were playing women's basketball baseball, and he went to North
Dakota State and then a place that's just like Fargo,
North Dakota, Tallassi, Florida. As the voice of the Florida
State Seminoles, Jeff Colhayne joins.

Speaker 1 (01:14:59):
Me, Now, how are you, j.

Speaker 8 (01:15:01):
Man. It's great to see you and and be with
you and my friend. We're doing great, and you are right.

Speaker 9 (01:15:06):
There may be two places on this world that are
less like each other from a weather perspective. It is Fargo,
North Dakota and Tallahassee, Florida, that's for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:15:17):
Yeah, Well, and but true confessions here if I remember correctly,
give you tell me aren't you originally from South Dakota?

Speaker 1 (01:15:25):
Is that right? Yeah?

Speaker 9 (01:15:27):
Correct, Mitchell, South Dakota, home of the Corn Palace. I'm
sure many of your listeners would will be very interested
in knowing about that tourist destination in the summer months.
But it's been a it's been a fun journey, Craig Is,
as you laid it out, it's been a fun ride.
And man, I've been able to meet a lot of
great people along the way, just like yourself. And we're

(01:15:47):
meeting some you know, having fun here at Florida State
and really really appreciate being a part of the family
right now, that's for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:15:53):
Well, I know that it has to be an exciting
time there in Tallahassee. I know what that feelings like
when things really get off to a really nice start,
and especially I would imagine, and I'll let you expand
on this, when coming off the disappointment and the frustration
of two inten a year ago when there were high expectations,
injuries and so much, and then to be able to

(01:16:16):
flip it like that and do it this year. I
know a lot of hard work went into it for
coach Norvella and his staff. But can you describe what
it was like, you know, first coming through the two
intent of a year ago, the off season, grind in
the work that went into getting things off to such
a fabulous start last Saturday at O Campbell Stadium.

Speaker 8 (01:16:36):
Yeah, I think I would.

Speaker 9 (01:16:37):
It would go back even further, Craig, It would go
back to twenty twenty three, Quite honestly, when Florida State
was left out of the College Football Playoff at thirteen
to zero.

Speaker 8 (01:16:47):
I think it began there.

Speaker 9 (01:16:49):
And then in the Orange Bowl we didn't have I mean,
Florida State didn't have their team that played against a
Georgia team that arguably was even though they got beat
by Bama on the SEC title game, was you could
say it was one of the best teams, if not
the best team still in college football that season. And
so you know, from from really that point in December
of twenty twenty three, there was a little bad taste

(01:17:12):
in your mouth. And then the start a year ago
in Dublin, things just really snowballed on the Knowles and
it went downhill in a hurry, and that was that
was tough all for everybody and nobody. I think, you know,
warred harder than the head coach, Mike Norvell, and he
understood and understands.

Speaker 8 (01:17:31):
He's made it very clear and very evident.

Speaker 9 (01:17:33):
He understands the expectation and understands what needs to be
done on a day by day basis as the head
coach of Florida State football.

Speaker 8 (01:17:42):
And he went out and made changes.

Speaker 9 (01:17:44):
He went and got two great coordinators and Gus melas
On which was really a coup, you know, coming from
UCF as the head coach there. And then Tony White
is one of the great defensive minds in college football.
I think Tony White Craig is going to be a
head coach somewhere. I mean, he's got that kind of
energy about him and just a great person and a
great coach. And we've seen it during his time at

(01:18:05):
Syracuse Nebraska and also four new assistant coaches as well.
But you know, Mike Norvel has really preached edge. He's
wanted to see his guys have that intensity and that
competitive fire that Florida State had when they won nineteen
games in a row from twenty twenty two into twenty
twenty three.

Speaker 8 (01:18:25):
And we really saw that idea that edge on display.

Speaker 9 (01:18:29):
Versus Alabama and a lot of you know, one off situations,
fourth down situations where literally was a couple of inches
that separated a drive continuing and momentum shifting. And I
think the changes that were needed that were made by
Mike Norvel we really saw on full display in this
game on Saturday, and that went over Bama.

Speaker 2 (01:18:51):
One thing you mentioned the staff changes, and there are
coaches in this business and who are rather inflexible, and
ultimately it may wind up costing them their job one
at one way or another. But I think I've always
felt that having the flexibility to be able to say, hey,

(01:19:11):
we've got to get somebody in here to do this different.

Speaker 1 (01:19:14):
Uh, you know, we've got we've got to think outside
the box that sort of in And it.

Speaker 2 (01:19:17):
Sounds like that's what you just described with Mike Norvel
about making some changes within the staff and getting some
people in there who could bring perhaps a different, if
not fresher approach to what needed to happen on the field.

Speaker 8 (01:19:29):
Yeah, one hundred percent.

Speaker 9 (01:19:30):
I mean, as as the job has changed, as the
game has changed right around college football and college athletics,
head coach is now more so than ever our CEO types.
They are not as ingrained in the x's and o's
and the adjustments and the play calling where some still

(01:19:51):
are doing that obviously. But you know, Mike Norvell I
think was looking for some of that, you know, added
help within the actual game planning. And you know Gus
Melzon from an offensive play calling perspective. Uh that's his
That's the name of the game for Gus, right, I mean,
that's what he was known for in Arkansas as a

(01:20:12):
high school coach and uh at you know with the
Razorbacks and then at Auburn and and and and so,
you know, to be able to bring in Gus who
Mike has had a great relationship with and in fact
worked with Gus his first full time collegiate head coaching
jab at Tulsa back in two thousand and seven. Herb
Hand also there Texas fan no fans know Herb obviously

(01:20:35):
as an no line coach. You know, all those guys
have have reconnected now and you saw, I think the
way that this thing can move forward with that new
that new energy, some some new voices in the room obviously,
and when you go through a year like Florida State
did a season ago. You need to have that and

(01:20:56):
there needs to be a little bit of a recalibration.
It's now a total culture change by any point, because
Mike Norvell has been consistent in his messaging in the
building day in and day out, no matter the wins
or the losses. But yes, I think being able to
have the flexibility for the first time in his career
as a head coach to not call the plays and

(01:21:17):
gave giving that up to Gus shows that he understands
the situation and made the right moves here to start
the season with bringing the.

Speaker 2 (01:21:24):
Right guys in visiting with Jeff Colhayanes played by play
voice of the Florida State Seminoles here on thirteen hundred
the cent. Okay, I wanted to get your perspective on
this because when we walked out of the stadium in
Columbus and got in the car to go back to
the hotel, big line of traffic, so it was going
to take us a while once we got out of
the parking garage, and the first thing on my mind
was I need to hear the Florida State Alabama game.

(01:21:47):
So the first thing when I popped on satellite radio,
the first broadcast came up was the Alabama Rod with
our friend Chris Stewart and the crew, and I'm listening
to them and they were in a mad scramble because
they started to mention how hard the rain coming down,
how they were trying to cover up their equipment to
keep forbidding. So I was wondering if you were going
through a similar thing, because then as I flipped over

(01:22:08):
to your broadcast, I heard you describe it just in
Torrents in sheets used one phrase. I don't even remember
what it was, but it made me laugh and talking
about and he gave it to describe a good picture
of how intense the rain was at that time.

Speaker 8 (01:22:23):
Yeah, I would agree it was a scramble well for sure.

Speaker 9 (01:22:27):
And you know in Florida you can see the clouds
coming and they were starting to hover and starting to
circle around to O Cambell Stadium, and you knew that
rain was inevitable over about a twenty to twenty five
minute period prior to the rain drops getting there.

Speaker 8 (01:22:46):
And when it hit, it wasn't just a light sprinkle.
It hit hard.

Speaker 9 (01:22:51):
And as I'm sure you've discussed with your radio crew,
our engineer started going to work moving things around, getting
you know, walking behind us, getting on tables, you know,
trying to get electronics out of the way. And then
the rain started to blow into the booth yep with
the wind, and so we had to shut the windows

(01:23:11):
and for a period of time and late in the
second quarter, legitimately it.

Speaker 8 (01:23:17):
Felt like you were going through a car wash.

Speaker 9 (01:23:19):
I mean, I'm trying to find a crease on the
windows where i can see clearly onto the field and
we're almost guessing at times, Craig with what was going on.
It was almost like the fog Game and Old Soldier
filled the late eighties with the Eagles and the and
the Bears. And thankfully, as as people know in Florida,

(01:23:41):
the rain usually doesn't hang around very often for the
most part, and that went away by halftime and in
the second half we could open up the windows and
let it rip. But yeah, for a period of time
we knew there was there was a chance for rain
in the game when watching the forecast. Thankfully it was
only for a brief period and also thankfully there was
no in the area that caused any delays and disruption

(01:24:03):
into the flow of.

Speaker 1 (01:24:03):
The game, no doubt about it.

Speaker 2 (01:24:05):
See here's what it made me think of, And you
just described what I kind of went through back in
oh seven, Texas was playing UCF and it was UCF
was opening their stadium, the new stadium there, which at
the time was called Brightehouse Network Stadium, I think, and uh,
we found it ironic that in a place that had
a cable and telecommunications company as the naming rights sponsor,

(01:24:29):
they didn't have any cabling into the booth.

Speaker 1 (01:24:31):
We had no TV monitors in the booth at that time.
I remember that.

Speaker 2 (01:24:36):
But but the thing that came to mind was, and
you've seen, you know, when I've had my broadcast boards before,
a lot of people, you know whatever say things, Hey,
those look nice or this and that, and I always
laminate them. I didn't have time on that trip to
laminate the boards. So I had a big deal and
I had there and one of those rainstorms just like

(01:24:57):
what you described, came blowing through midway through the third quarter,
and the rain's blowing in, and those those spotting charts
they look great, but one thing they were not was waterproof.

Speaker 1 (01:25:11):
And so the colors start running and I have to
drop it into my lap.

Speaker 2 (01:25:15):
Fortunately or unfortunately, the game got stopped because there was lightning,
and when they came out after about an hour and
fifteen minute delay, it was like a sauna and the
Texas players start sucking wind and they barely got out
of their live I think Kevin Smith ran for one
hundred and fifty yards for UCF. Texas won like thirty
five thirty two, and Mac Brown always said that was
the dumbest mistake I ever made.

Speaker 1 (01:25:36):
Was one of the dumbest mistakes I ever was.

Speaker 2 (01:25:37):
Agreeing to play a team in the grand opening of
their stadium. But that's far the weather, right, I mean,
you get you get rain like that afternoon thunderstorms in
the summer and early fall are a regular thing, aren't they.

Speaker 9 (01:25:51):
Well, quite honestly, we had a great day weatherwise, outside
of the rain coming down. The initial forecast had you know,
you're thinking August thirtieth in Tallahassee. You're thinking, you know,
heat index of one hundred and six, and you know,
no no just shade, no, no screen from the sun,

(01:26:12):
and you're worried about some people, quite honestly, But it
turned out to be a perfect day outside of the
rain weather wise. I mean it was it was eighty two,
eighty three degrees there was cloud cover all day. The
sun only popped out a few times, which which didn't
really turn up the heat too much. So from that standpoint,
it was pretty good. But yeah, I mean, two years

(01:26:33):
ago Florida State Miami played. I think it was November
thirteenth was the date, and it was eighty five degrees
on November thirteenth, and we called it Florida football weather.
I mean, there was no such thing as as a
day in the in the twenties or thirties in November
here in the state of Florida.

Speaker 8 (01:26:51):
So yeah, you get you get used to it.

Speaker 9 (01:26:53):
Your blood thins out pretty quick, but you better be
ready to navigate a brief shower or a delay because
that's just part of the deal signed up down here.

Speaker 2 (01:27:02):
What really impressed you coming out? And I know one
of the things that impressed me what the Seminals did
was to run for two hundred and thirty yards on
that Bama defense.

Speaker 1 (01:27:09):
That was one of the things that impressed me.

Speaker 2 (01:27:11):
And then the other thing was their ability to answer
once Bama tried to make a push and got within
a touchdown, to just turn it right back around with
a quick answer score to keep them at arm's length.

Speaker 9 (01:27:22):
Yeah, Craig, I'm with you on both of those. Just
the physicality that Flora State played with. Didn't see that
a year ago, really didn't see what we saw a
little bit in twenty twenty three. But I thought, from
just an actual pads popping perspective, that's as hard as we've.

Speaker 8 (01:27:39):
Seen around here in quite some time.

Speaker 9 (01:27:41):
I mean, it was a defense that was meeting Alabama
on their side of the line of scrimmage, their side
of the fence, if you will. And Bama is known
for elite offensive lines, elite defensive lines, and they have
those pieces in place. They were missing Tim Keenan in
the middle of the offensively, who is an All SEC performer.

(01:28:02):
So that was a loss for them, but they still
have very very good players and very good depth.

Speaker 8 (01:28:08):
Florida State just flat out beat them. I mean that's it.

Speaker 9 (01:28:12):
I mean, two touchdown underdogs coming off a two win season.
No one outside of Tallahassee gave Florida State a shot,
and look, I get it, right, I understand it.

Speaker 8 (01:28:21):
And so to see the result of all the.

Speaker 9 (01:28:25):
Things, and you know, as we talked about a little
bit ago, playing with that edge and responding and winning
two huge fourth down conversions on the defensive side, and
I'll tell you just an amazing moment to me that
shows how this team has come together and how much
they trust each other. Right now, Craig, there's eleven minutes

(01:28:47):
left in the game, and Bama has made it a
seven point contest. It's twenty four to seventeen, and they've
had the ball two times, two plays to one for
Florida State thirty one total plays Florida State fifteen in
the second half, and the defense is gassed. They are gassed.
And it's fourth and one, fourth and two at our
own thirty with eleven minutes to go, and Mike Norvel says,

(01:29:08):
we're gonna go for it because he knew if he
punted it that his defense didn't have enough juice to
go out and stop Bama, and Bama would go down
and score and take the momentum and probably win the game.

Speaker 8 (01:29:20):
And Florida State responded.

Speaker 9 (01:29:21):
The offense responded and got the first down, moved Bama
on a fourth and two, and then went down and
scored the game winning touchdown on just a great physical
run by Oklahoma transfer Gavin Sadschuk, who you guys have
seen before from the running back spot.

Speaker 2 (01:29:36):
And so that was a.

Speaker 8 (01:29:38):
Response moment, but also a trust.

Speaker 9 (01:29:40):
Moment that a head coach had with his team with
eleven completely new guys on offense. Craig for Florida State offensively,
that shows you what Mike Norvel has been seeing in
practice and the belief and the connection they've had.

Speaker 8 (01:29:55):
It was on full display in that moment.

Speaker 1 (01:29:57):
You have a three.

Speaker 2 (01:30:01):
Major headline grabbing games on the schedule down the road,
Miami at home and then at Clemson and then of
course the game in games against Florida on Thanksgiving weekend.

Speaker 1 (01:30:12):
That all of that is there.

Speaker 10 (01:30:14):
I was.

Speaker 2 (01:30:16):
Amused to see that you've got East Texas A and
M coming in this week. They were competitive for a
time against SMU. That's the old Texas A and M
commerce and when they were D two and even before then.
Originally East Texas State where they're proudest slum probably was
Harvey Martin of the Dallas Cowboys Front for Fame back
in the day. So I would imagine the old thing,

(01:30:38):
the old thing about coaches say, hey, we we worry
about ourselves and not so much about the opponent this week.

Speaker 8 (01:30:43):
Right, you are correct?

Speaker 9 (01:30:45):
And seven name changes for the school yeah, gagging back
to eighteen eighty nine. So yeah, they're kind of like Prince.
They're going to be a symbol here at some point soon.
But all kidding aside, the connection is East Texas A
and M A. D. Jim Curry was with Michael Olfer

(01:31:07):
here at Florida State for a long time and was
a part of the fsuthletic department for eleven years, and
so there's a connection there with their relationship. And you know,
the Lions are trying to build up their program at
the FCS level and at the Division IE level, and yeah,
they hung in there with SMU a bit on Saturday night,
and so you know, but you have to continue to

(01:31:30):
go out and play, and I think everyone is you know, look,
everyone's obviously excited about the win, but it's one game.

Speaker 8 (01:31:37):
It's a long season. I mean, injuries can happen.

Speaker 9 (01:31:39):
You got to have a little bit of luck along
the way, and we honestly get a little bit of
PTSD Craig in games like this two years ago against
North Alabama is when Jordan Travis suffered the lower leg
injury that ended his football career and essentially ended Florida
State's playoff hops.

Speaker 8 (01:31:55):
So these games you want to get in, you want
to impose your will.

Speaker 9 (01:31:59):
You want to play a lot of guys and get
guys out of their healthy that's the expectation. But you
don't want to see two steps back after really what
was ten steps forward for Florida State and that went
over Alabama And we'll see, you know, what kind of
juice and what kind of approach Florida State will have

(01:32:21):
in this contest against the Lions on Saturday afternoon.

Speaker 2 (01:32:23):
And we'll look forward to continuing to follow it. Jeff,
I appreciate the time, thanks so much for joining us,
enjoy the ride, and hope you have a great call
this week and I'm sure we'll visit again down the road.

Speaker 9 (01:32:34):
Great to see you, my friend. Thanks for having me
on your show, and we'll definitely talk down the road.

Speaker 8 (01:32:39):
You been soon. All right?

Speaker 2 (01:32:40):
That's Jeff Cohanes, play by play voice of the Florida
State Seminals. And what a big win they had in
beating Alabama last weekend. All right, coming up, we'll hear
more from Arch Panning when we continue here on thirteen
under the Zone. This afternoon, Let's hear some more from
long Orange quarterback Arch Panning. I would say that it's
pretty close what we saw him yesterday when we saw

(01:33:05):
his demeanor and his mood in his and his conversation,
very similar to even preseason. This is a guy who
tries to be the constant level Lake and really endeavors
to not get too high or too low. Affable guy,
a good natured fellow, but a guy also is not

(01:33:28):
going to let his emotions drive him through the ceiling
or send him down through the floor based on his
performance one way or the other. So the question was
put to him, what does he need to do to
improve upon his disappointing outing in the season opener in Columbus.

Speaker 4 (01:33:45):
Just starting faster, geting completions, get into my guys in space,
being consistent, and just operating the offense and executing each
play at a time.

Speaker 2 (01:33:53):
You know, one thing that Steve Sarkishan talked about in
the press conference yesterday that we brought to you a
live here on thirteen Under the Zone was the fact
that when they got into the locker room at halftime,
he said they went straight to Arch and had a
conversation with him one on one. So he was asked

(01:34:14):
Arch was what Sarks message was to him at halftime.

Speaker 4 (01:34:19):
Yeah, just seeing what he sees and getting some more
dialogue at halftime, watching some film, and then I thought
I let it rip a little bit more in the
second half.

Speaker 2 (01:34:27):
Yeah, And going back to that first half, there were
a couple of things that were noteworthy about the struggles.
First of all, did it surprise him with the struggles
he had and the difficulty to get going in the
first half.

Speaker 4 (01:34:39):
I mean, yeah, they're a good team, you know, I
was surprised we weren't scoring, I mean moving the ball,
but also when you got to adapt and adjust, and
that's what good foot All teams make you work for it,
and they definitely.

Speaker 6 (01:34:51):
Did that on Saturday.

Speaker 2 (01:34:53):
Part of the adjustments come and part of the surprise
comes in seeing what the defense was thrown at him,
in this case Matt Patricia, the former NFL defensive coordinator,
the looks they were given. So were those looks adding
up to being a confusing element for Arch?

Speaker 6 (01:35:11):
Yeah, I think it's more on us.

Speaker 4 (01:35:13):
I thought, we beat ourselves and I got to execute better.
If we're our defense played well, so we got to
play better as an offense.

Speaker 6 (01:35:20):
And it starts with me.

Speaker 1 (01:35:21):
Yeah, And so with it's starting with him.

Speaker 2 (01:35:23):
He says, that's why you saw fewer explosive plays than
they were expecting to have.

Speaker 4 (01:35:29):
Me. I got to get our all to the balls
receiver be more accurate so we can produce more exposed
to plays.

Speaker 6 (01:35:35):
We were like eleven percent one good enough.

Speaker 2 (01:35:39):
Another thing that Start pointed out was he wanted to
see starting this week, obviously, Arch be able to accept
and take in and absorb the easier plays, the easier
reads and results that were out there, instead of trying

(01:36:02):
to get the bigger hit. That was going to be
more of a difficult challenge to do it. So the
question is then, you know, he also kind of got
conservative with some of the stuff he did Arch and
he was asked, was he trying to be too safe
very early in the game.

Speaker 4 (01:36:21):
Yeah, I mean you just got to play each play
as it comes and can't force anything to take what's there.
But they're going to be shots. Whenever they come up,
you got to take them.

Speaker 1 (01:36:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:36:33):
And so.

Speaker 2 (01:36:38):
I don't know about the rest of you, but anybody
that watched the TCU North Carolina game last night and
saw what the horn Frogs did to the tar Hills
in Bill Belichick's debut, I don't know if you've got
a chance to see the press conference afterwards. The press
conference afterwards was very, very very very similar to Bill

(01:37:01):
Belichick press conferences when he was coaching the Patriots. Everything
was almost flat, monotone. A few words, and the phrase
on the Seattle just kept coursing through my mind because
remember remember the whole on the Seattle thing. You got
to ask what was it said? Like four consecutive questions
on the seattle?

Speaker 1 (01:37:21):
On the seattle?

Speaker 5 (01:37:22):
That was That was his thing to me after a
fantasy football loss.

Speaker 1 (01:37:25):
Oh there you go. There, you go on to the
next one. There were Cameron Parker. Yeah, right, so you
got to get on to the next one.

Speaker 2 (01:37:34):
So Hart Spanning was asked how much time he allow
himself bothered by his performance and the lost Bio State
before turning the page to get ready for San Jose State.

Speaker 6 (01:37:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:37:48):
I think it was a It was a long and
twenty four hours, but I think I got it all
out of the way. Watched the tape with everyone this
morning and they go to bad the Ugly and then
an how we're.

Speaker 6 (01:37:59):
Full onto sat.

Speaker 1 (01:38:00):
Hey, I guess this media I'm talking about it.

Speaker 2 (01:38:02):
Yeah, there's a there is a a player reference to
the Good, Bad, and the Ugly.

Speaker 1 (01:38:07):
And I'm not talking about the uh.

Speaker 2 (01:38:10):
The Western in the early seventies with Clint Eastwood and
it was a Lea Van Cleef and all those guys.
Not that Sark does a thing. We've heard him talk
about it, and I'll get him to talk about it
on when we record Longhorn Weekly on Wednesday for Thursday
nights here, and I'm going to tell you about that
coming up here before we get done. But Sark has

(01:38:35):
a session on Monday morning called the Good, the Bad,
and the Ugly, And what he does is he has
I think I think he said there's about twenty plays
that they use. I can't remember if it's twenty in
each category or just a I think it's just a
total of twenty place Again, I'll ask him when we

(01:38:55):
record the program tomorrow, and they're broken down into three.

Speaker 1 (01:38:59):
Categories, the good, the bad, and the ugly.

Speaker 2 (01:39:03):
And most of the time of the past couple of years,
and going twenty five and five over the last two years,
most of the good, the Bad, and the ugly was good.

Speaker 1 (01:39:14):
There's some bad, and yes, some ugly, but most of
it was good.

Speaker 2 (01:39:19):
Now last Saturday, probably more bad and ugly than there
was good, although Sark did point out there was a
good response from his team in the second half and
had two hundred and sixty yards of offense in the
second half of the game, but only able to register

(01:39:39):
seven points out of that. So there's a good, the bad,
and the ugly reference made thereby arch Manning, and it
falls on the shoulders of all of the team, and
Sark will tell you that falls on the shoulders of
the coaches as well.

Speaker 1 (01:39:52):
All Right, we'll be back.

Speaker 2 (01:39:54):
I'll tell you what's coming up tomorrow and a couple
other items as well when we come back to wrap
up today's edition of the program on thirteen under the
Zone

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