ACC-SEC Challenge Continues, CFP Chair Explains Texas' Ranking, Cowboys Prepare for Lions

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Speaker 1 (00:22):
Happy Thursday to you.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
Here we are on a Thursday grew me and dreary
as it might seem from the outside, but we're glad
to have you with us this afternoon. Welcome for the
program here on Sports Radio AM thirteen under the Zone.
My name is Craig Way, so glad to have you
alongside as we bring you the program again from the
UT campus today. For a couple of reasons. One, we

(00:45):
had our first recording of the season Longhorn Weekly with
Sean Miller, and we'll hear from the men's basketball head
coach tonight on their season premiere of Long Worn Weekly
with Sean. But I guess you could say it's a
series premiere of Long Worn Weekly with Sean Miller. Comes
your way tonight at seven o'clock right here on Sports

(01:07):
Radio AM thirteen under the Zone, and we'll have a
couple of special guests, including Chris Hogden, the general manager,
whose son, of course, Bo is one of the two siinees,
along with Austin Gooseby for the Texas men's basketball program.
So that'll be coming your way tonight at seven o'clock. Also,
being over here has us close by Moody Center because tonight,

(01:32):
the Texas Women are in action. That's a six o'clock tip,
as they will be in action against the North Carolina
tar Hills. It is the Texas Women's version of the
acc SEC Challenge course. We know it did not go
well for the men last night as they fell to
Virginia eighty eight sixty nine. The Texas women are unbeaten

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and they are number eight or excuse me, number two
in the country. They are eight to oh and number
two in the country. Texas is and they'll be taking
on the North Carolina team that has only lost one time.
That one loss was to a team in a game
played in Las Vegas that Texas has already beaten in

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Las Vegas, UCLA. UCLA defeated North Carolina a week before
the Longhorns played the Bruins at the Player's Era Championship
Summifinal round, when Texas won that contest and handed then
third ranked and unbeaten at the time UCLA it's first

(02:33):
loss of the season. UCLA hasn't lost since by the win.
And then, of course, the long Horns went on to
the Championship round and beat then at the time second
rank South Carolina to win the Players Era Championship. So
tonight will be Texas against North Carolina. Should be a
good matchup, and you can hear that on our sister station,
one o three point one FM, Austin's eighty station. Also

(02:57):
you can listen on the app, the Texas Long Horns app,
the iHeart Radio app. We'll have it where you can
connect through there on the app, I think. Also if
you're out of the area, it's on Serious XM satellite
radio as well, So there's a lot of places to
find it. But the game tonight will have for you
on one oh three point one FM, Texas against North Carolina.
The producer back in the studio is Jake Herman, and

(03:20):
Jake is probably kind of pleased because he hadn't had
to see me for a couple of days. That makes
you happy, right, You don't have to deal with me,
you know, for a couple of days, at least, not
face to face anyway. Sitting across from you at the console.

Speaker 3 (03:34):
Craig, I've got my feet up on the desk. I'm
redecorating in here. It's gonna look a little different when
you get back around here. No, no, I'm getting a
little bit lonely. Back here actually, but glad to still
be able to do the show.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
Okay, all right, listen, You're not the first person who's
given me that kind of response, including in that Cameron Parker,
of course, our erstwhile assistant PD, who is, of course
still a major part of everything we do in terms
of producing our programs and our men's and women's basketball broadcast.

Speaker 1 (04:12):
So he's He's mentioned similar things, and even in.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
The past when I've had other other people where uh,
you know, if I would, if I was completely out,
there would be a lot more mentioned completely out of it. Uh,
there would be there would be a lot more stuff happened.
So you're you're relatively tame by comparison, Jake. I'll say that.
On the program this afternoon, we're going to uh, well

(04:39):
talk some more college football. Uh, We're gonna here's some
more of the reasoning from Hunter eurochek uh and the
college Football Playoff Committee as it relates to Texas and
other programs. Will do that, uh, And there's other college
football stories to get to. However, there's a pretty important

(04:59):
National Football League game to be contested tonight, and that's
the Dallas Cowboys playing the Detroit Lines in fact, what
we're gonna need to do at.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
Some point before the program's over.

Speaker 2 (05:12):
Cameron parkeru be with me at some point, so I'm
gonna have to get his way on that. We haven't
checked in with him on the Cowboys a lay. And
here are the Cowboys. Yeah, they're above five hundred now
they're six five and one, and they're on that periphery.
They're in that column on the far right that's mentioned
as in the mix or teams that have a shot

(05:33):
to get into the playoffs. So they're you know, they've
been playing well. They have been, and now all of
a sudden, what we're hearing national pundits say about the
Cowboys is that it's not the same Cowboys team that
was earlier in the season. What they've done to benefit
and beef up the defense. They've gotten healthy in areas

(05:55):
as well. And yeah, they may be a game and
a half back of the Eagles in the NFC East.
But the of course, had kind of been in a
free fall late. They've lost to in a row and
have struggled even in their wins. The Cowboys have won
three in a row. I don't know the Dallas can
catch Philly. They have split with them. I don't know
that they can catch them. However, they can perhaps put
themselves in position for the playoffs. So we'll talk about

(06:16):
those things. With regard to the playoffs, we'll definitely do that.
We'll also hear from Sean Miller, not from the program
we just recorded, but from what he had to say
after the game last night, with Texas falling and falling
in a big way to Virginia last night, as they

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just flat out nominated for the most part in the game,
and a lot of it had to do with really
good shooting right out of the gate. So there was
very good shooting of three point shooting on the part
of Virginia. Now some of that they're just flat out
good and they're hitting shots. Another part of it, well,

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the long Worns didn't defend the three point line as
well as they could have should have. They got screened
off a lot of times. Great screening game from Virginia
last night to put Texas in that kind of position.
So we'll hear from Sean Miller talking about that. Back
to the Cowboys, obviously, we're gonna hear from Brian Schottenheimer,

(07:20):
the head coach of the Cowboys, and this was from
his final media availability, which happened yesterday, and and of
course now the Cowboys get ready to take on the
Detroit Lions, so we'll get his thoughts on that as well.
So that's that's an important thing to match up. We
do have inconceivable and there's a couple of fast food

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junk food updates that will bring you.

Speaker 1 (07:45):
Here in the two o'clock hours, So we'll do.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
That, and then there's some other topics that we're gonna
get to as well. But I did want to mention that,
you know, in talking about the Cowboys and in mentioning
what they still mean, what they still mean to folks

(08:09):
who follow the NFL is that the Cowboys win over
the Chiefs on Thanksgiving Day not only put the Cowboys
in a position at sixty five and one where they
can start to think about and possibly in the mix
of making a push for the playoffs. Not only that
their win over the Chiefs last Thursday averaged Get this, Jake,

(08:37):
fifty seven million, two hundred and thirty thousand viewers on CBS.
What does that mean? It is the most watched regular
season game in National Football League history. Fifty seven point
two three million viewers, the early game, by the way,

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between thes and the Lions, the Green Day one in
Detroit average forty seven point seven. That was the second
most watch game in league history and the most watched
regular season games since Fox began carrying the NFL thirty
one years ago. So if the most watched game in

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NFL history, and no surprise that it's a game with
the Cowboys, the most watched game in NFL history, if
that's on this just passed Thanksgiving Day, and the second
most is the earlier game that same day, Packers Lions.
What does that mean, Jay Herman, What does that say

(09:40):
about the NFL? What does that say about these teams
or about the fans viewing habits?

Speaker 3 (09:46):
Well, it means that the NFL is still king and
that their empire, their empirical takeover of holidays among the calendar,
will continue to run rampantly on check because of receipts
like this, and that's not necessarily a bad thing. It
means that the NFL was a topic of many Thanksgiving conversations,

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which in this current political environment.

Speaker 4 (10:12):
Maybe that's a good pivot.

Speaker 3 (10:14):
But maybe it's a good thing that the most viewed
fifty seven million. You said, think about how many Americans
were gathered around TVs during that. It's probably an even
bigger audience than that. And my other takeaway maybe the
Thanksgiving Day parade and dog show have fallen off because
those are the competition at least where I'm concerned on Thanksgiving.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
You know what, I'm a dog show fan.

Speaker 3 (10:40):
I like.

Speaker 2 (10:42):
People, know, I love dogs, and I have one who's
almost thirteen years old and all this, and I watch
with the Westminster Kennel Club Dog Show every year. I
may wind up dvring it and having come back recording
it and watching it, but I do watch it, and
so I'm a fan of the dog shows.

Speaker 1 (10:59):
Yes, I'm as big a fan of the parades.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
Maybe when I was younger I liked the parades, not
as much anymore. I don't know, I'm not exactly sure why,
but just not as big a fan of the parades anymore.
You know.

Speaker 3 (11:13):
I noticed the parade was appealing a little bit younger
this year, because usually it was the adults telling me
who was in the parade. This year at Thanksgiving, it
was me explaining to my girlfriend's family, Oh, this person's famous.

Speaker 4 (11:25):
On this platform.

Speaker 1 (11:26):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (11:27):
Yeah, they definitely tried to go younger.

Speaker 1 (11:29):
Wow, that says an awful lot.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
Okay, all right, coming up, we're gonna hear from Sean
Miller on the things that went wrong for the Longhorn
basketball team and how they planned to as the old
soccer coach that I used to work with used to say, it.

Speaker 1 (11:46):
Is not right, but we will put it right and
we will make it right. Well, Rush, it was a
little bit he used to say.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
Oh tzbs, it was an awful performance by our team.

Speaker 5 (11:58):
Rubbish.

Speaker 2 (11:59):
Yeah, So we'll hear from Sean Miller talking about that.
We got a lot to get to on the program
this afternoon. Glad to have you with us on this
Thursday afternoon here on Sports Radio AM thirteen hundred The
Zone and where you always can listen to us absolutely
free of charge on the iHeartRadio app.

Speaker 1 (12:21):
All right, you've really got me.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
Curious here pumping back with carry that Weight from the
B side of Abbey Road.

Speaker 6 (12:32):
The.

Speaker 7 (12:34):
Montage they had that they had and that went all
the way through, of course, starting with the son King
all the way through Carry that Weight, all right, I'm curious,
Jake Herman.

Speaker 1 (12:48):
Oh yes, symbolism behind it.

Speaker 4 (12:50):
I just thought of where your mind probably went. No,
I just wanted.

Speaker 3 (12:54):
I wanted to go with Abbey Road because well, you
can hear Ringo pretty well on this one, and you've
got guys walking across the street like you are this afternoon,
Craig balancing everything you're up to over there on campus.

Speaker 2 (13:04):
Okay, all right, I feel you. I hear what you're
saying there. And yeah, we just went right down from
the studios where we were recording Longhorn Weekly with Sean
Miller to hear at Moody Center where tonight it'll be
Texas against North Carolina.

Speaker 1 (13:24):
Now we'll get to that.

Speaker 2 (13:26):
We're going to hear from Vick Shaeffer coming up in
the three o'clock hour, and then wait, wait, do you
hear him in the four o'clock hour talk about the
college football playoff?

Speaker 1 (13:34):
Yeah, big Shaffer.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
Do you hear him in the four o'clock hour talk
about the college football playoffs?

Speaker 1 (13:39):
So we'll get to all of that coming up.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
But with regard to this Texas team, the men's team,
last night, obviously it didn't go well.

Speaker 1 (13:50):
They lost eighty eight to sixty nine of Virginia.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
And if we're being completely honest about this, and Sean
Miller was being similarly in Clyde in the things that
he was talking about when we had Long Worn Weekly.
If we're being completely honest about this, it really wasn't
even that close. They lost by nineteen points, but they
were down by as many as twenty eight in the

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second half. So it did not go well clearly for Texas.
Why did it not go well? Well, there were a
variety of things. First of all, you start off with
Virginia shooting the basketball extremely well. You start with that,
and especially from three point range, and they got the
Longhorns down in the game, and then all of a
sudden they're having to struggle to get back in it.

Speaker 1 (14:33):
They did not.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
Defend the three as well as they wanted to or
felt that they or could have or should have, but
then their own offense didn't respond. So there were a
lot of things on us. So let's hear from him.
This was after the game last night, and again you'll
hear him in greater detail talk about some things tonight
on Longhorn Weekly. But let's hear from Shaan Miller. This
is what he had to say, just to start off

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the press conference after the game last night.

Speaker 8 (15:01):
First things first, very difficult to lose the way we
did play the way we did in the great environment
and the atmosphere we had here tonight at Moody. You know,
the fans showed up, whether it be our students and
just generally, it was an amazing environment and everything that

(15:23):
you hoped it would have been, especially on a weekday
Wednesday at eight fifteen. And when you have that opportunity
to play a home game against the good team with
the crowd like that, you know, it becomes your responsibility.

Speaker 9 (15:38):
To perform well and play the best that you can.

Speaker 8 (15:43):
When it doesn't happen, in particular the way it happened tonight,
it's actually overwhelming, you know, the disappointment and one thing
can lead to the next. That's the first part. I
think the second part is we lost to a really
good team. As the season unfolds, I see Virginia going

(16:06):
on and doing some very good things. They have a
really good roster, they have depth, they have size, they
have an abundance of skill and experience, and Ryan Odom
does an amazing job.

Speaker 9 (16:19):
He's a heck of a coach, and it looked that
way tonight.

Speaker 8 (16:24):
I thought, just generally speaking, our guys came out after
a couple good days of practice.

Speaker 9 (16:30):
We knew Virginia was good, and.

Speaker 8 (16:34):
You could sense early in the first half just the
style of their press, their three point shooting, their offense
and rebounding, and their depth where on us. And I'll
just say this that we had no answer for them offensively, right, So,
you know, it's tough to judge our offense because we

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either gave up a made field goal or we fouled
for a majority of the game. And when that happens, man,
it's tough to get transition points. It's tough to be
in the flow on offense when you're always taking the
ball out of bounds or you're fouling like we did
in the second half. Their offense overwhelmed our defense, and

(17:17):
it's becoming a pattern with us.

Speaker 9 (17:20):
We're too easy to score on. We have to fix that.
We have to be better.

Speaker 8 (17:24):
We have to do things that we're capable of doing
to fix and we have to have just more of
an inner fight and toughness on that side of the
ball to be able to defend the shot, challenge the shot,
rebound the ball, defend the man in front of you.
A lot of where we go from here starts with
that word defense. And we had seven turnovers. A couple

(17:50):
just crazy turnovers. But I'll take seven turnovers every game
that we play this year. Our problem wasn't as much
there as much as it was just overwhelmed me. How
they destroyed our defense. Some of it is to their
credit and some of it is just this is a
moment of truth for our season where we have to
be able to learn from it and improve that part

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of our team.

Speaker 2 (18:12):
So then the media jumped right in on that theme
about the long run defense, and someone asked, coach Miller,
is there a player that you can point to as
if they want a head coach to point fingers and
individual players anyway, is there a player you can point
to point out to show what's needed defensively from the group,

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whether it's somebody doing the job right or someone struggling
to do the.

Speaker 8 (18:37):
Job at times. Lassie or coming in the game. Did
a lot of good things on defense. But the one
thing about defense is this, Like, you know, I told
our guys the story after the game. You know, when
I went to Arizona played BYU and ed this little guy,
Jimmer Ferdett, Nobody really knew who he was. He came

(18:58):
into McKale center, and broke a record he had like
forty three. They didn't even play them in the last
ten minutes of the game. And when the media asked
our players, like, how do you feel about Jim or
for Debt breaking the record, you know, one of our
players said, well, he only scored six on me. The
point I make to you is this is the ultimate

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team game. So although I can point to Lesina giving
great effort and a number of our players on particular
segments of the game doing a good job on defense,
they had our team defense isn't good enough. We're not
relying on each other, We're not playing with enough passion
and energy. Coming into the game, we knew their ability
to shoot the three point shot, and it was like

(19:40):
they took us by surprise, right. We had no answer
for their ability from three. To their credit, one of
the things they really do is they get to the
last ten seconds of the shot clock a lot, so
you have to guard them for fifteen seconds or twenty seconds.
But they forced you to be disciplined for the entire
third and there was a number of different plays throughout

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the game, both the first and the second half. Well,
we played for twenty seconds, but they punished us in
the last ten and that's to their credit. You have
to be a good offensive team to play that way,
which they are. But I think that also shows like
the level that we're at, we have to get.

Speaker 2 (20:19):
Tougher all right, So toward that end, again, keeping it
on this theme of the defense, he was asked about
the sliding scale here. How much is it is being
disappointed in his defense as opposed to being able to
use that as a teaching tool.

Speaker 9 (20:36):
I mean it's a little bit of both.

Speaker 1 (20:38):
You know.

Speaker 8 (20:38):
It's the thing about our practice environment, and we practiced
hard since we've come back from Mali because we had
a number of things we had to do to become
better and to get ready for this game. It takes
time as well, I will tell you that. And we're
not a perfect group. We have imperfection. But with that

(20:59):
there's also some things that we can do to overcome,
to help better, you know, to look after each other better,
to play different lineups, to make sure that we always
have the correct matchups. And I think for us defensively,
it's a combination of pride and effort, and it's also
a combination of just being more fundamentally sound and more disciplined,

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you know, the fouls being in the right place.

Speaker 9 (21:25):
At the right time.

Speaker 8 (21:26):
But I will tell you this, this isn't a scenario
where I'm gonna say that our guys didn't play. They're
incredibly disappointed, so am I. Nobody wanted to come out
tonight in front of that environment crowd and lay an
egg like we did. I credit Virginia, and I think
they exposed a few things that we're going to have

(21:48):
to shore up as we keep moving forward.

Speaker 2 (21:51):
Yeah, interesting take there on it, and really and truly
and Eddie Orn and I said this on the broadcast,
and Coach Miller agreed, and Ken you Hunter, who's.

Speaker 1 (21:59):
With those on the post game grid. It wasn't about effort.

Speaker 2 (22:02):
Guys had effort last night, but there were misplaced assignments,
if you will, and not getting out on the shooters enough,
and then their transition offense didn't work, and they struggled
against the pick and roll. And when you struggle against
the pick and roll, that leaves you exposed and open
to the outside shot, namely, as Coach Miller talked about

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the three point shot.

Speaker 8 (22:26):
No question, being able to mix our coverage is something
that we have to be aware of. I have to
take a look at it in terms of just how
much you know, I know that they had maybe a
couple on the roll. I would say for the most
part where they really punished us, though, is just off
the dribble.

Speaker 9 (22:46):
You know.

Speaker 8 (22:46):
I don't know if it was our ball screen coverage
as much as it was moved the ball moved, the
ball moved, the ball moved the ball and when they attacked, though,
especially towards the end of the clock, there's too many
times where we gave something up a three, a foul,
a shot at the rim, and uh, their roster is
really good, Like they have a lot of threats across

(23:08):
the court at different spots, and tonight, you know, coming
into the game their five position didn't really shoot a
lot of threes or make threes. Tonight they added that
to what they did and uh, you know that was
that was kind of icing on the cake for them.

Speaker 1 (23:22):
All right.

Speaker 2 (23:22):
One more here from coach Miller talking about manus Foka Titus,
who had looked really good at times this year and
then of late has been kind of frustrated and was
again last night. But they points some four boards and
did he have a message to modest in order to
deal with the frustrations of a game like last night.

Speaker 8 (23:40):
Yeah, you know, it's it's a reminder about Modus that
he's a young player, and he's he's he's on the rise.

Speaker 9 (23:47):
Obviously, we really believe in them.

Speaker 8 (23:49):
I thought he added two or three shots tonight that
were just and I couldn't believe he missed them. And
I think when that happens to a player that's young,
it can then lead to now I can't make a
free throw, and now you miss a couple of free throws,
and now I can't do anything right. And I think
Modest experienced some of that tonight. We have to be

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able to help him learn and grow, but sometimes you
have to go through it to really understand I have
to be better in this area, kind of like the
next to play mentality and growing and learning from it.

Speaker 9 (24:25):
But I thought they also did a good job on him.

Speaker 8 (24:28):
They have two seven footers and their physical and some
of the shots around the basket maybe weren't as uncontested
as they appeared, but there's no doubt he missed between
his free throws, and at least I'll give him two
point blank shots at the rim that he not only
normally makes but I think we all expect him to
make it. The other part you got to realize about

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him is he got fouled nine times. I think coming
into the game he was the second most fouled player
in the country.

Speaker 9 (25:00):
You guys can look that up tonight. That added to
his case.

Speaker 8 (25:05):
So like, his ability to draw fouls is a huge
weapon for us, and we have to.

Speaker 9 (25:11):
Be able to utilize that.

Speaker 8 (25:13):
Obviously, going from the free throw line three for nine,
he's better than that.

Speaker 1 (25:17):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (25:18):
So there it is from Sean Miller and again, tonight
is our series premiere, first show he's done with us
on the long Worn Radio network from lear Field, and
you'll be able to hear it here on the Zone
Longhorn Weekly with Sean Miller. The debut program comes your
way tonight at seven o'clock here on the Zone and
again this Texas women's basketball game against North Carolina can

(25:41):
be heard on one of three point one FM, that's
Austin's eighty station, also on the iHeartRadio app, the Texas
Longhorns App, a couple other places.

Speaker 1 (25:49):
Is where you can find.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
It up next Inconceivable on a Thursday afternoon here on
Sports Radio Am thirteen under the zone of the iHeart
Radio app.

Speaker 4 (25:57):
Holidays can get expensive, but streaming.

Speaker 2 (26:16):
Second hour of the program here on Sports Radio AM
thirteen hundred zone Craig Way with you from Moody Center
where tonight the Texas women's basketball team and the acc
SEC Challenge will play host to the twelfth ranked North
Carolina tar Heels Texas at eight to no North Carolina
eight to one, and we'll have it for You can

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hear that on our sister station one of three point
one FM, Austin's eighty station five point forty five is
the pregame start time and the tip off at six o'clock.
You also hear it on the apps and online at
Texas Longhorns dot com and on the apps as well
Texas Longhorns App and then obviously on the IR Radio app.

Speaker 1 (26:59):
And I think it's.

Speaker 2 (27:00):
Also available on satellite radio as well if you're out
of the area. So anyway, it should be a dandy
matchup tonight, another test for Vick Schaefers team. We're going
to hear from Vick coming up in the next segment,
but right now I wanted to bring you a little more.
We had a little bit of it yesterday, but some
more from Hunter eurocheck. He is the chairman of the

(27:23):
College Football Playoff Committee. He was inserted into the chairmanship
after Mac Rhodes, the committee chairman, and Baylor had athletic
director stepped down from his post as committee chairman and
also took a leave of absence as the ad at
Baylor to deal with some personal matters. So Hunter Yurachek,

(27:44):
the athletic director from Arkansas, is now the committee chairman.
And yesterday we heard him talk about in three comments,
we are talking about Texas, A and m on a
couple of those, and then actually four comments, because one
about the Canon Idol team from outside the field move

(28:05):
into the field after the conference championship games, and he said, yes,
that's possible. And then we heard him talk about Alabama's
Whinever Auburn moving then ahead of Notre Dame. So let's
pick up with what he was saying. This next one
is about Vanderbilt, and Vanderbilt is below other two.

Speaker 1 (28:22):
Loss teams and Texas.

Speaker 2 (28:24):
And did you see the report last night Jacob's Late
last night, I thought I must be dreaming this where
somebody said that Vanderbilt was going to sue the college
Football Playoff Committee.

Speaker 3 (28:35):
I didn't hear that report. What I did here was
a different.

Speaker 4 (28:38):
One regarding Vanderbilt.

Speaker 1 (28:39):
What was the one you heard that Vanderbilt.

Speaker 3 (28:42):
Was staying ready in case they found the logistical loophole
to play a thirteenth game against Miami in Hawaii.

Speaker 2 (28:57):
Well, Sarry did say in his news conference just today
that hey, why not have us play a thirteenth game?

Speaker 1 (29:03):
You know that sort of thing.

Speaker 2 (29:05):
But anyway, Hunter Yurchek was asked about Vanderbilt and why
specifically Vanderbilt didn't move state of fourteen and why they
are below other two loss teams and a three lost Texas.

Speaker 6 (29:19):
The Committee has a great deal of respect for Vanderbilt
and what they have achieved. An amazing season, a ten
win season. When you look at their schedule now that
Tennessee is no longer ranked, they just don't have a
signature win. They've got wins against LSU, Missouri and Tennessee.
Missouri and Tennessee were previously ranked in their poll, they
are no longer ranked in our poll. And then the

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two ranked teams that Vanderbilt has played, Alabama and Texas.
You know, I think both of those games, in their
own way a little bit different. The Alabama game is
probably closer than the score indicates, and the Texas game
was probably closer than the score actually indicates, because if
you remember, Texas was up in that game thirty four
to ten. So I think it's just the lacking that

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signature win or two that teams like a Texas in
a Miami Utah teams above them have.

Speaker 2 (30:11):
Okay, he mentioned Texas twice in there, Texas being up
thirty four to ten in that game. He mentioned Texas
having those signature wins. So Texas is thirteenth. Does that
mean they have no path at all to the playoff.

Speaker 6 (30:29):
Predict? What one's path would be to get the CFP?
Either have to be one of the five highest ranked
conference champions. Texas does not play for the Southeastern Conference
championship the weekend, so they can't. That's not their path.
Then you'd have to be one of the seventh highest
ranked at large teams, and so that would be Texas's path.
As we reranked this one last time this weekend.

Speaker 2 (30:51):
Okay, all right, and then here's the debated topic. I
guess I'd be naive if I said this wouldn't be
the most debated topic in.

Speaker 1 (31:03):
The college football world and landscape. And that is the
third loss, whether you look at it.

Speaker 2 (31:13):
Saying that it's Florida or whether you look at it
saying it's Ohio State. And there's two completely different ways
of looking at it. And I respect both opinions on this.
By the way, I understand the folks who say the
loss to Florida, don't lose to Florida and we're not
having this discussion. Florida went four and eight, fired their
coach at mid season. Don't have that. Don't lose to

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Florida and we're not having this discussion. Then there's the
other side that says, if we had not played Ohio State,
if we played a cream puff game like many of
the SEC schools do and other those I mean, you
look at the schedule strings of Ohio State in Indiana,
they're not very not very strong. But if they if

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we played their perspective, if Texas had played someone that
wasn't of the strength of Ohio State on the road,
they had won, they'd been ten to two, and here
come those words again, quote, we wouldn't be having this
discussion right now. So both sides have their perspective on that.
Whether you know, they said, well, the Florida loss is

(32:19):
what hurt you one side. The other side says no,
because other teams can have a second loss. It's not
that Texas chose to play Ohio State. So that anyway,
that's the tug of war and the pool. So Hunter
Yurcheck was asked, is the Florida loss hurting Texas the
most or is it another factor?

Speaker 6 (32:39):
You're spot on. I mean, the Committee has a great
deal of respect for Texas, and they have played an
incredible schedule. They've got four teams they played in our
top ten. They beat ou on a neutral field. They
just beat Texas A and M at home. This past weekend,
they lost to number one Ohio State and lost to
number three Georgia. But you know one key stat this week,

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and the team's ranked in our top fifteen, there's seventeen
total losses for those teams. Sixteen of those losses came
against teams that are currently ranked or have been ranked
in our top twenty five this year. The only loss
to an unranked team was Texas has lost to Florida
at Florida, and really Florida dominated that game, held Texas

(33:23):
to fifty yards rushing, forced two interceptions and so that
it's not that Texas played to Ohio State, it is
that Texas lost to Florida that's holding.

Speaker 2 (33:32):
Them back, now, Okay, all right, So that's the committee's
perspective on them. And Steve Sarkishan heard that, and when
he was on with us yesterday and had to sit
down with me, he said, the bottom line on this
is we've got to make our best effort to win
every time we go out there. And then he was asked,

(33:53):
sark was asked, does is this going to force you
to reevaluate you're out of conference schedule in the future?
And what startin seniate news conference, which we brought to
you live yesterday on thirteen under the Zone, was that
the Ohio State return game next year twenty twenty six

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and the Michigan return game on twenty twenty seven. Because
remember Texas has played both of those teams on the road.
He said, we are going to honor those games. It
makes all the sense in the world to begin with it.
It's playing at home after playing them both on the road.
So you start with that, he said. Beyond that, we're
gonna have to have discussions. And yes, that means the
home and home. That's schedule with Notre Dame for twenty
eight and twenty nine. So well, we'll see how all

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of that goes. But it does force you to reevaluate
and assess you're out of conference scheduling as a result
of that. If if the loss that's hurting you the
most is the loss to Florida's Hunter, Yurchik just indicated, okay. Next,
he was asked, what does the committee think about Ole

(34:57):
Miss and the coaching situation. Clearly it didn't hurt the Rebels.
They actually moved up one spot with Lane Kiffin's departure.
But what did your check have to say about the
committee's conversation surrounding Old Miss?

Speaker 6 (35:08):
We absolutely did talk about that. One of the principals
in our selection protocols is the availability of coach and players.
We've not only talked about the situation at Old Miss,
but we also talked about the offensive coordinator position at Oregon,
the head coaching position that James Madison North Texas in
two AM. But I think those coaches are going to

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be coaching their respective teams. There's obviously a distraction. But
what the committee in the end, after discussion, it felt
like we don't have any games where Old Miss does
not have their head coach or Oregon potentially has a
distracted offensive coordinator, etc. And so that really didn't weigh
into our considerations this week and how we ranked our teams.

Speaker 1 (35:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:53):
Well, okay, so there's the point that and I think
it is logical to assume, and it makes sense that
in talking about North Texas and Tulane losing their head coaches.
But yet those head coaches are staying through their efforts
to reach the College Football Playoff and even if whoever

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loses that game tomorrow night in New Orleans between Tulane
and North Texas, their head coach will stay with them
through their bowl game before taking the reins of the
new program. In the case of John Sumroll, the head
coach of Tulane, of course he'll be going to Ole Miss.
In the case of North Texas and Eric Morris, he's

(36:35):
going to Oklahoma State. So with that being the situation there,
you know, it's it's a little more understandable they're moving
up to a Power.

Speaker 1 (36:48):
Five job, I guess is the bottom line on that.

Speaker 2 (36:50):
Okay, Next, another question about Vanderbilt, and this goes to
kind of what Jake is saying they're looking in the
possibilities of a third game.

Speaker 1 (37:00):
I've heard red stuff that they were looking at legal action.

Speaker 2 (37:03):
They didn't move up for beating Tennessee, but Tennessee dropped
seven spots and out of the rankings.

Speaker 1 (37:10):
What was the reasoning for that?

Speaker 6 (37:12):
I think it's what happened around Vanderbilt this week with
Texas also getting a win against Texas and m who
is ranked third, Miami getting to win at a ranked
Pittsburgh team BYU winning against Central Florida. So it's not
that we didn't want to reward Vanderbilt for that win,

(37:32):
but there's some things that happened in and around the
teams that they were ranked with that really kept them
in that fourteenth spot.

Speaker 1 (37:39):
Okay, yeah, it was all the other stuff.

Speaker 2 (37:40):
And by the way, I said John Sumrald to Ole Miss,
I meant to say John SUMMERLD to Florida No right,
as the Gators new head coach.

Speaker 4 (37:47):
Can I say a couple of things on that answer?

Speaker 1 (37:48):
Sure?

Speaker 3 (37:50):
First of all, he mentioned Miami ranked win over pitt
pitt is no longer ranked. They dropped him out just
like Tennessee, So I don't really understand how that factors
in Second of all, the EYUS win was over uf
UCF just escaped against Oklahoma State, and they didn't win
as convincingly as Vanderbilt did at Tennessee.

Speaker 4 (38:08):
So this is just what you can argue whether or
not Tennessee should be ranked.

Speaker 3 (38:14):
But to me, this answer gives fuel to the fire
of people that say, well they rank first and rationalized
later because I don't see why Tennessee drops all the
way out of the rankings but Vandrailt doesn't move up
at all.

Speaker 6 (38:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:26):
I think one of the big arguments against the committee
right now is that they seem to be picking and
choosing which ranked wins and or losses are more important
than others. It's kind of like the you know what
I say about high school football playoff games. You know,
there'd be a lot more interest in a six A
Division one game than a two A Division two game.

(38:49):
Not for me, I love them all equally, But what
I always say is it's a very much an Orwellian experience.
All playoff games are created equal, all playoff games are equal,
but some playoff games are more equal than others. And
I think the same logic is applying here. What the
committee is doing now. I'm not in agreement, by the way,

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with that all playoff games are equal, but some are
more equal than other. Like I said, they're all the
same to me, no matter the classification. And that's because
I call state championship games at all level. I will
call six man I will call both six man games.

Speaker 1 (39:24):
I will call both six A games.

Speaker 2 (39:26):
I will call a two A game, a three A game,
and a five A game as well during that haul.
So I love them all. What's state championships and what
it means to community? But I'm saying in the minds
and the landscape, the viewing perspective for a lot of
people is might be that, you know, all playoffs are
created equal, but some are more equal than other. And maybe,

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just maybe the committee's looking at it in a similar light,
except you know where they pick and choose which matchups
in which games are more important than others.

Speaker 3 (39:56):
And they're saying ranked wins, Well, what if you expanded
to top already wins? Okay, then Vanderbilt all of a sudden,
as Tennessee and Missouri in there. They're just yo yoing
teams back and forth at the bottom of the rankings,
and there's not really I think a substantial difference between
twenty and thirty right.

Speaker 1 (40:11):
Now, Yeah, exactly, Jake.

Speaker 2 (40:14):
Let's go to There's a couple other bites I want
to get to, this one about the Notre Dame Miami
head to head and is it less important now the
head to head win for the Hurricanes over the Irish
because there's a team in between them and Byu, even
though I think a lot of folks feel that by
He's probably gonna lose to Texas Tech at second time

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this year, but that's to be determined on Saturday. Is
less important they head to head between the Hurricanes and
the fighting Irish because right now there's a team situated
and ranked in between the two.

Speaker 6 (40:48):
The head to head is one data point that the
committee will use. It's obviously easier to use that data
point when the teams are back to back, as opposed
to when they're separated by a team or two or three,
as has been the case. You know, Notre Dame is
the winners of ten straight. During that ten game winning streak,
they've outscored their opponents roughly four hundred and forty to

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one forty three. They've been very consistent offensively and how
they run the ball and how they pass the ball,
a very explosive offense. I think their third in explosive plays.
And then you've got a BYU team between them that's
eleven and one. Their schedule strength and record strength metrics
are really really high. They've got a win over a

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fifteenth rank Utah and a win over eighteenth rank Arizona,
and their metrics ranked really really high as well, and
so as it can. And then you've got Miami, who
when we had our first poll, they were came into
our poll losers of two of three games, and so
they were inserted at eighteen. They've really climbed faster than

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any other team during the past four or five weeks,
up six spots. They've won four consecutive games. Carson Beck
has been phenomenal, completing eighty percent of his patches at
roughly eleven hundred yards at eleven tds during that time.
But the committee still felt like, right now, Notre Dame
deserves to be ranked ahead of d YU and Miami,

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and d YU deserves to be ahead ranked ahead of Miami.

Speaker 1 (42:19):
Okay, all right, we can follow it again.

Speaker 2 (42:24):
This goes to what I'm saying some numbers seem to
be more important to this committee than other numbers.

Speaker 4 (42:32):
Completion percentage. It's back.

Speaker 1 (42:34):
Yeah, yeah, I never thought.

Speaker 4 (42:36):
We'd hear that again.

Speaker 1 (42:37):
Yeah yeah. So anyway, that's that's where that is. All right.

Speaker 2 (42:41):
Coming up next, we're gonna hear from Vick Schaeffer, you
talk about a guy who does not mince words. Or
here from the Texas Women's head coach. We're here at
Moody Center tonight. It is Texas against North Carolina and
the acc SEC Challenge. And we'll continue on Sports Radio
AM thirteen under the Zone in the IR radio app.

Speaker 6 (43:02):
We're back.

Speaker 10 (43:03):
It's the Craig Way Show with Hall of Fame broadcaster
and voice of the Texas longheard Craig Way, and you just.

Speaker 5 (43:12):
Feel the moon shine just like a friend of mine
to get me from behind cause.

Speaker 8 (43:20):
I'm on Caroline?

Speaker 5 (43:24):
Is he?

Speaker 2 (43:25):
J Carman doesn't realize this when the song that is
played on the final bump back from a break before
I go on vacation every summer to the coast of
North Carolina is James Taylor's Carolina. In my mind, Oh wow,

(43:45):
Oh it makes me think about that in the summertime
when I go to for those two weeks on the
Carolina coach.

Speaker 4 (43:51):
Well, quick, let me turn it down. We can't lose
you yet. Greg, There's so many Longhorn games left.

Speaker 2 (43:55):
Yeah, I'm not going anywhere and not going anywhere. I'm
right here Moody Center, get ready calling game now. But
it's a night and Ran. I like James Taylor's work obviously,
you know you have to like the work as well
of Vick Schaeffer. You've seen what he has done with
this Texas women's basketball program. It's been it's been incredibly

(44:16):
impressive to see how he's transformed it. And really even
in starting his first year when they went to the
Elite eight. The biggest shortcoming they have had under coach
chaever is a second round exit in the NCAA tournament.
That's the biggest shortcoming that they had. They lost in

(44:36):
the second round in a four versus five seed matchup
to Louisville, a team that had Hailey van Lyth, who
then went on and ultimately wound up at TCU. And
it's ironic because they ended Haley Vandelist's career at TCU
then after that, so and that happened a year ago
in Birmingham in the Elite eight, but This team has.

Speaker 1 (44:57):
Gone Elite eight.

Speaker 2 (45:00):
And then gone second round, Elite eight, Elite eight, and
I guess when a lead eate Elite eight, second round,
Elite eight, and Final four. So they have a lot
of goals in front. They have very lofty aspirations and expectations,
and also that goes to the teams they have to

(45:23):
beat along the way. Remember, Texas played South Carolina four
times last year.

Speaker 1 (45:28):
They lost three of those games.

Speaker 2 (45:31):
They lost early in conference playing Columbia. They won the
rematch here the next month in Austin, then lost to
him in March in the championship game of the SEC
Women's tournament, and then lost him in the final four.
There is a very distinct possibility they could play four

(45:51):
times again this year, although they're only scheduled once in
the regular season. They were only scheduled once, and that's
going to be the game Conference playing in Columbia. But
they've already played once. They played last week in the
finals of that tournament Las Vegas and Texas won that game.
So who knows they're going to play again in Columbia.
Maybe they wind up going up against one another in Greenville,

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South Carolina and the SEC Women's tournament again, maybe they
meet up in the final four or some other NCAA
tournament situation. Ever, his first year, they lost to him
in the Elite eight in the Alamo Dump. So coach
Chaffer was asked, what does this budding rivalry between clearly
the two best teams in the SEC South Carolina and Texas,

(46:34):
and what it means to women's basketball overall?

Speaker 10 (46:37):
You know, for us, we know we're playing a great team.
They're well coached, great players, They're going to be well prepared,
and so you know, I think our kids respect that,
and I certainly have tremendous respect and admiration for their program.
For coach in her staff, you know, I've had to

(47:02):
obviously be in Assissippi State.

Speaker 5 (47:03):
We had some knockdown dragouts.

Speaker 10 (47:05):
With them, and you know, I think the thing you
said it when you when you go against a South Carolina,
I just mentioned what you're going to get and if
you're not on your game, they won't beat you, they'll
embarrass you. And you know, I just think that you know,

(47:26):
playing them this early, you know, in a non conference game,
you know it it has its value, no question about it.
But whether we win or lose, just like Don said,
I mean, we learn from it.

Speaker 5 (47:42):
It's November, and you know, you move on.

Speaker 10 (47:47):
I think for us, for me, and I told the
kids that I will not diminish. I know it's November,
but I'm still not going to diminish. It's not fair
to my kids to dimin what they accomplished in a
two day span, taking down Number three and then number
two back to back days, and doing it with a

(48:07):
limited rotation. But we did get to play some kids
that you know have played off and on.

Speaker 5 (48:16):
You know, Justice hasn't just been.

Speaker 10 (48:17):
Playing a whole lot, and man, she was really big
for us out there, and man, she had a great
practice this morning. And if I could just get that
consistency from her, our team would be so much better.
And so, you know, her getting to play a lot

(48:37):
of minutes when up to this point in her career
she hasn't, is way beneficial. Getting to play in that game,
you know, those minutes is really beneficial for her. And
then you know, obviously with with you know, Taya and
then dividing up the five spot with Brea and Kyla,

(48:59):
you know, it just gives you an opportunity to really play,
you know, those kids in a big game really early.

Speaker 5 (49:08):
So again we know when we play them.

Speaker 10 (49:14):
We know when we play South Carolina, man, we're going
to get the real deal. We're going to get a
really good team that's well coached, well prepared, got great players,
and that we got to be prepared ourselves. We got
to bring our a game. And that can't help. But
hurts you, I mean can't hurt. That can't help. That
can only help you down the line. You know, whether

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it's them, UCLA and anyone else that's like that, that's
only going to help you come you know, January February March.
So not ideal obviously to play them at a conference,
but at the same time, you know, you learn from
it and you move on. This year, we only get
to play them one time, and it'll be at their place,

(49:59):
and I'm sure they'll be, you know, loaded for bear
when we roll in there, and that's okay.

Speaker 5 (50:06):
I don't think it's any different than if we hadn't.

Speaker 10 (50:09):
Played them, and and so you know, we'll have to
be ready when we go in there.

Speaker 5 (50:14):
And uh, and that's probably the only.

Speaker 10 (50:17):
Thing that you you get out of that deal is
whoever wins, it gives that other team that little extra
ownus to you know, get you and so, but again,
we have nothing but respect for them and their program,
and and we know we're always going.

Speaker 5 (50:38):
To have to play well when we play them.

Speaker 1 (50:40):
You know, it kind of makes sense.

Speaker 2 (50:42):
And I don't know what Vic means when he says,
you know, it's not ideal, certainly not ideal, uh, to
play them as a game that doesn't count in the
conference standings, you know, in the non conference portion of
the season Vegas tournament, Uh, you know, notwithstanding and the

(51:02):
players are a championship and all that other kind of stuff.
I get what he means on that. I would also
submit to you this women's college basketball, even though it's
getting less so and I think it is less of
what I'm about to say. It has been for a
long time kind of a third world country where you have,

(51:25):
you know, some great teams up at the top, right
at the top of the South Carolina and yukon those
teams there.

Speaker 1 (51:32):
LSU has been up there.

Speaker 2 (51:35):
And in Texas in recent years clearly, and then just
a big chasmic.

Speaker 1 (51:41):
Drop off to the rest of that group.

Speaker 2 (51:44):
Well, it's starting to get a little bit closer now
there's more and more commit to TCUs really building an
outstanding program under coach Campbell.

Speaker 1 (51:53):
Up there, there's other teams.

Speaker 2 (51:55):
Baylor's bouncing on its way back, there's other teams that
are playing really well at UCLA clearly USC But until
everything is on a really close to equal footing, until
it's close to that, then I think it's safe to
say there's nothing wrong with having those kinds of matchups,

(52:17):
even if it's two teams out of the same conference,
because it's great women's basketball being played, even if on
the non conference schedule.

Speaker 1 (52:27):
Okay, Next, he was asked about.

Speaker 2 (52:29):
Rory Harmon, and in short, you know, Harmon breaking the
all time record at the University of Texas with seven
hundred and seventy seven career assists, breaking that all time record.
So Rory, He was asked, you know, what is it
that really makes Rory Harmon a great point guard?

Speaker 5 (52:47):
Number? One?

Speaker 10 (52:48):
I think she understands the position and the importance of
the position. She understands that the most important stat of
that position is the of you. She's very unselfish, but
she's had to wear different demands of that position while

(53:12):
she's been here. When Sonia went down her sophomore year,
Rory sophomore year Rory had to become a scorer for us,
and so she had to wear that responsibility as well
as running the team, as well as being that on
ball defender that got everybody's best guard.

Speaker 2 (53:34):
You know.

Speaker 5 (53:34):
I think that's where I read something the other day.

Speaker 10 (53:37):
Somebody was bragging about a player in college and she's
got a really good, like a sister turnover ratio.

Speaker 5 (53:45):
And then the comment was, and she's not even a
point guard.

Speaker 10 (53:51):
Well, you probably should have a pretty good assistant turnover
ratio if you're not a point guard. And I think
that's where Rory is really been fantastic. She understands the
importance of not turning the ball over, being a greate
assist player, running her team, being the catalyst of our defense.

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You know, those things I just mentioned are what make
her great, and.

Speaker 5 (54:17):
It's what separates her.

Speaker 10 (54:18):
In my mind, this is now year five, Danny, that
I am talking about Rory being a great point guard
and should be heavily considered to be the player of
the year in that position, because she is so much
more than just a run of the team, runs the team,

(54:45):
or you know, maybe can score a little bit.

Speaker 5 (54:49):
I mean, she is so much more than that.

Speaker 10 (54:51):
We all know that the kid is the only player
in the history of Texas.

Speaker 9 (54:58):
To score twelve hundred points in seven hundred assists.

Speaker 10 (55:02):
I mean, that's an incredible feat at a program that,
by the way, has had a bunch of really good.

Speaker 9 (55:08):
Guards here over the course of time.

Speaker 10 (55:11):
And so it's really frustrating for me because that kid
deserves that. She deserves to be recognized in that manner.
And you know, to me, it's a no brainer. Of course,
I look at her every day. I see her every day.

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But findly somebody else like that. I mean, I know
you probably will do it, and that's fine, but who
else in the country scored twelve hundred points in seven
hundred assists in their career? And I mean, it just
makes her so unique and so special.

Speaker 1 (55:53):
But not just that.

Speaker 10 (55:55):
She guards, She defends, She takes charges, she's a great
help defend.

Speaker 9 (56:01):
She understands the importance of all that.

Speaker 10 (56:03):
She picks your butt up at the speed, you know,
at the city limits sign and guards you till she
shows you the door on the way out of town.

Speaker 9 (56:11):
You know, she just she's unique, She's special. I don't
take it for granted.

Speaker 5 (56:17):
I can tell you.

Speaker 1 (56:20):
No doubt about that.

Speaker 2 (56:22):
We'll hear a little more from Vic Schaeffer coming up
here in just a few moments. But we'll continue here
on this Thursday afternoon from Moody Center here in Austin
on Sports Medio AM thirteen under the zone of the
iHeartRadio app. Well here on this Thursday. I'm always curious

(56:43):
as to the musical selections made by the producer Jay Herman.
So I'm gonna put it and ask you what the
musical selection is and why this particular selection.

Speaker 3 (56:58):
Well, here's High Stephan from the Avon Brothers, Craig, a
man that hailed from and formed in Mount Pleasant, North Carolina.

Speaker 1 (57:06):
Right outside of Charlotte.

Speaker 4 (57:08):
So little little connection there with the Tar Heels tonight.

Speaker 1 (57:11):
Yeah, yeah, So.

Speaker 2 (57:15):
Anyway, I hate on the text liner man ce Pale said,
the crowd last night was so loud on television, had
trouble hearing the announcers the entire game. It was a
very loud and vibrant crowd last night, and and uh, I.

Speaker 1 (57:32):
Think we'll see it again tonight.

Speaker 2 (57:33):
He also said, I hope that all this chaos will
motivate the team and the staff talking about football and
to beat people even more. Win the Bowl game. Emphatically
hook him. I hope many will not opt out. Sark
was asked about that yesterday. He didn't He did not
think that they would opt out, or it would have.

Speaker 1 (57:56):
He said.

Speaker 2 (57:56):
Now it's you know, it's up to the individual, young man.
That I think it's gonna be a pretty attractive bowl game,
assuming a course or not in the playoff, It's probably
gonna be the Citrus Bowl. The actual titles the Cheese
It Sistress.

Speaker 3 (58:11):
I brought that up to my Michigan friend yesterday and said, hey,
we'll be on a collision course and the cheese It
Citrus Boys at You and cheese Itt Citrus.

Speaker 2 (58:19):
Well, yeah, yeah, I always thought that was a weird.
Remember cheese It has been a bowl sponsor for some time.

Speaker 1 (58:25):
Uh. They had their.

Speaker 2 (58:26):
Own cheese It Bowl, which is now we know it
is the Pop Tarts Bowl. They had the cheese At Bowl.
There was one out in Arizona that they played. I
think that's now called the the Chase Bowl, I believe, so,
you know, so they've been a sponsor of it, the
Citrus Bowl.

Speaker 1 (58:44):
It was called the Capital One Bowl for a while.
Capital One Centric.

Speaker 2 (58:47):
Well, I mean the genesis and the history of that
takes it all the way back to the old days
of a Tangerine Bowl starting in the seventies.

Speaker 1 (58:55):
But it is the.

Speaker 2 (58:57):
Highest uh the highest valued bowl outside the New Year six,
certainly by the SEC because they allow that bowl to
make its choice the top three bowls in that selection,
the Citrus, the Reliaquest which used to be done as
the outback there in Tampa, the Citrus being in Orlando,
and the Gator in Jacksonville. They make their selections, and

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then all the remaining bowl assignments Music City Bowl, Texas Bowl,
the Independence Bowl, all those other bowl assignments are done
by the Conference office itself. Okay, I wanted to get
to one more comment from Vick Schaeffer, the Texas women's
head coach, as they get ready to take on the

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North Carolina tar Heels tonight. And you know, with all
the other things that Vic quite often gets asked, you
know you're gonna hear it next hour, him talking about
the college football Playoff. It's pretty good, and you know
about individuals and things like that. He was asked overall
for his thoughts on this acc SEC challenge and how

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it all plays out.

Speaker 5 (01:00:06):
Yeah, I was looking at it.

Speaker 10 (01:00:07):
We obviously got the number one team in the ACC.

Speaker 5 (01:00:12):
If I'm not mistaken.

Speaker 10 (01:00:14):
Looking at who we're matched up with and looking who
everybody else has matched up with. But nonetheless, I mean,
my philosophy on these matchups is.

Speaker 5 (01:00:24):
I don't need help with my schedule.

Speaker 10 (01:00:27):
I can find enough people to play good teams or whatever.

Speaker 5 (01:00:32):
It doesn't bother me. I don't mind playing it.

Speaker 10 (01:00:35):
My beef with this, Danny is we went to Notre
Dame last year. They should be having to come here
this year. That's my beef. I don't understand why they
get off and don't have to come to the University
of Texas this year. That to me ain't right. If
you're gonna match up the top four, top five, top

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six teams in the league, I'm going to assume in
the ACC it's going to be the same six pretty
much in the SEC we're going to have the same eight.
So why not make those teams have to go home
and home? I just don't get. I don't agree that
we went on the road last year to Notre Dame

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and they don't have to come back to Austin this year.

Speaker 5 (01:01:21):
That's my only beef.

Speaker 2 (01:01:23):
Yeah, Well, and it's a fair question, and complaint because
you know, on the men's side, they did do that
a home and home I remember the men did that
with Vanderbilt one year. But you know how the SEC
and the a SEC termed this. They look at it
and say, let's put the best teams against the best teams,

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and the middle teams against the middle teams, and the
teams that are kind of on the low wind of
the totem pole.

Speaker 1 (01:01:51):
Against one another. And so they look at this.

Speaker 2 (01:01:54):
North Carolina is one of the top teams, and you know,
let's pair them up against Texas. Now, Texas did play
on the road last year, so we do give them
a home game, but it's a different game, it's a
different opponent, and that's the thing that obviously doesn't set
well with VIC. All Right, we'll be back to wrap
up our number two of the program, continuing here from

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Moody Center here in Austin on Sports Radio AM thirteen under.

Speaker 1 (01:02:18):
The Zone in the iHeartRadio app.

Speaker 2 (01:02:25):
Well, we continue with the program beginning this third and
final hours. We come your way from Moody Center now
as the Texas women's basketball team will play two hours
from now, as they start off against the North Carolina
Tar Heels. You can hear it again on one oh
three point one FM, Austin's eighty station. That's on our
sister station, because we will be bringing you Long wor

(01:02:48):
and Weekly with Sean Miller tonight here on the zone
at seven o'clock. But at five forty five, that's our
pregame start time for the Texas women, the number two
ranked and unbeaten eight to oh Long Worn women against
the twelfth rank North Carolina tar Heels, and that comes
your way tonight here on one o three point one FM.

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North Carolina is eight and one. Texas is eight to
oh going into that, And just to let you know,
and here we got a chance to hear from Vic
Schaeffer last hour, and we'll have some more to get
to from Vic coming up this hour. But this is
a North Carolina team averaging eighty one points per game.

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Long Onrornes are averaging ninety two points per game. Both
are giving up about the same, Carolina allowing fifty six
points per game, Texas allowing fifty five points per game,
and both are leaders in rebounding. You would expect this
from really successful teams. North Carolina's out rebounding the opponent

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by about five boards per game, the Long Orange by
nine rebounds per game, and the inside game certainly will
be important. Sierra Toomey, is there six or four post
to averages seven seven boards per game? So you know,
of course the Longhorns with what they have inside with
Bria Cunningham and Kyla Oldacre, that'll be pushed as well.

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But to some college football notes and then we're gonna
hear from Brian Schottenheimer coming up. Okay around here, we
over the past few days, and it really started after
the Longrnes won the game on Friday night. When it

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started with him winning the game on Friday night over
Texas A and M. That's when Steve Sarkesian went into
as he called it, politicking mode or campaign mode to
try to explain why he thought his football team deserved
a bit in the college football playoff. And we've heard
heard his case, and it's a very strong case. And

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by the way, his points have been backed up by
national analysts, people like Kirk kurb Street and some other
national analysts to say, because Texas played Ohio State, they
chose to play that game, they took the loss, and
they shouldn't be punished for that. And then the other
side of that, folks said, well, they're not being punished

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for that, They're being punished for playing Florida. And then
the first side comes back with, yes, but if they hadn't,
if they'd opted out of the Ohio State game and say,
played you know whatever, Georgia State or Georgia Southern or
somebody like that, or somebody they could handle, and won
that game, they would only have two losses on the schedule,
albeit one of them ugly to Florida, and we wouldn't

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even be having this conversation because they would be ten
and two with three top ten wins, and so they
would probably be around number six, seven, eight, somewhere in
that area. Probably. That's how the arguments have gone over
the past several days. No matter which side of that
argument you believe and you stand on, that's how the
argument has gone down. Start talking about why his team

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deserves deserves that bid and why folks who are against
that saying well, you shouldn't have lost to Florida, and
so on and so forth.

Speaker 1 (01:06:12):
It's gone back and forth.

Speaker 2 (01:06:13):
The reason why I bring all this up is because
the commissioner of the Atlantic Coast Conference, Jim Phillips has
jumped into the fray and now he is stumping you.
He's wanting a number, He's wanting a second team to
get into the playoff, and of course that second team

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would be Miami. They're number twelve. See, and that's the
biggest obstacle obviously for Texas. Ahead of them in the
pecking order, or at least in the College Football Playoff
ranking order, one spot ahead of them is Miami Texas
number thirteen.

Speaker 1 (01:06:49):
Miami's number twelve.

Speaker 2 (01:06:51):
But just being in the top twelve is not going
to be enough this year to get into the playoff,
because there's going to be at least one at large
getting in from a conference champion out of that, and
with Notre Dame still being where they are, a team
that Miami beat, as we all know, there's a roadblock there.
So you know, the ACC at least is facing the

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chance of being kind of squeezed out of the College
Football Playoff if you base that on the rankings on
Tuesday night, which we have discussed at length. But Phillips,
in an interview with the Associated Press was really emphatic
in making his case for the Miami Hurricanes and the
league's champion Now that comes after the ACC had that

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log jam of five teams at six and two in
conference play behind the Virginia Cavaliers, which triggers the tiebreaker
policy that worked through multiple steps before sending the five
lost Blue Devils ahead of the Hurricanes and others in
the Saturday night's ACC championship game in Charlotte, North Carolina.
Here's the other reason why he's getting involved in this,

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and we know why.

Speaker 1 (01:08:01):
It's because the.

Speaker 2 (01:08:04):
Doomsday scenario for the ACC would be Duke winning on
Saturday night. There's no question about it, because if Duke
wins on Saturday night, the ACC is not guaranteed to
get another team, to get a single team into the

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playoffs if Duke winds up meeting Virginia, because you have
a five loss Duke team that right now is not ranked.
And you say, so, what's the big deal with that?
All right, there's two things to remember here. The American
Conference Championship game will be tomorrow night in New Orleans.
Tulane is twentieth in the College Football Playoff rankings. North

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Texas got into the CFP rankings for the first time
at number twenty four, so they're playing and the highest
ranked five highest ranked conference champions get in. So if
whoever wins that game is going to get in. So
that would fall into that category. If Virginia were to

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lose to Duke Duke with five losses as the conference champion,
but they would not be guaranteed that spot because at
number twenty five is James Madison. James Madison is playing
Troy in the Sun Belt Championship, and if James Madison
wins that game and then Duke loses on Saturday night
to Virginia, there's every possibility that two G five teams,

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the winner of the American either Tulane or North Texas
and James Madison from the Sun Belt would get would
be higher rank than the five loss ACC champion that
would be Duke. So Jim Phillips getting proactive, swinging into action.
He said, quote, I have conviction and confidence in our teams,

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starting with Miami. The second piece of that is the
Virginia Duke winner should absolutely be in this college football playoff. Now, listen,
I understand believe me, I do, and I don't necessarily
disagree with I understand what a lot of folks positioning
is with regard to the Loghorn and say, hey, they
got three loss. No three loss team has ever made

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the playoff as an at large Sark sat right here
on campus with me yesterday and said that, so they're
prepared if I'm happy to accept the way that that
goes down, that no three loss team has ever gotten
an at large bid into the playoff.

Speaker 1 (01:10:40):
By the same token, no.

Speaker 2 (01:10:43):
Five loss team has ever made the playoff, even as
a conference champion, which is what Duke would be so
to be a five loss team as the conference champion.
So it's hard to take that with a straight face.
And of course in the rankings on Tuesday, he was
a bubble team for that large bid. Virginia really pretty

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much has a simple win and you're in scenario in Charlotte.
But Duke got into that a SEC championship game because
of SMU losing a colt last weekend, So that sets
up the possibility of chaos. Whereas Miami ten and two,
they close strong, and of course they have the win
over Notre Dame. So Phillips, who had previously been previously

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had been optimistic about the ACC landing multiple bids, says
he knows the scenarios. He still believes the a SEC
deserves two bids, he said, I'm not naive, but I
have conviction about it. So Miami's position stands out. With
the Hurricanes having that head to head win over Notre
Dame and Notre Dames, it's two spots ahead of the

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Hurricanes and the rankings they're at number ten despite that
season opening loss, and that could be the differentiator considering
the team teams have matching zero to two records in
comparable ten and two records in comparable strength of schedule rankings.
Notre Dames is forty second, Miami's is forty fourth. The

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Hurricanes have more top forty wins in the ESPN College
Football Power Index, for what that's worth, they have five
compared to two for the Fighting Irish. They also have
a better record against AP ranked teams at the time
of the matchup Miami four and oh Notre Dame two
and two. They both had matching games against two Bowl

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eligible teams at home against nca State at then ranked
PIT among their four common opponents. The Hurricanes beat North
Carolina State and PIT by a combined sixty five points
more than the Irish is fifty one point margin in
those two games that I think is immaterial, agreed. Yeah,
I mean, why are we talking all of a sudden

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again about margin and a victory, which that's not supposed
to be a thing, Jake. And then and by the way,
the combined margins of Miami's has sixty five points and
the combined margins and Notre Dame is fifty one. I
don't that doesn't hold water for me. If you want
to say that you think Notre Dame is a better
football team right now based on ten straight wins and

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on a roll and all that, you make your case,
it's fine, but don't throw margin of victory at me,
especially during the stretch when they're playing some beaten down
other conference.

Speaker 3 (01:13:24):
Opponents, and it leads to things like the nonsense we're
seeing at the end of games with teams running up
the score.

Speaker 4 (01:13:32):
I mean, should sark.

Speaker 3 (01:13:33):
Have not taken a knee against Texas A and m
of course you take a knee, but Miami was throwing
passes with fifty six seconds left up by twenty four?

Speaker 2 (01:13:41):
Yeah, should Texas have continue to run the ball there
against Arkansas as well and try to run them score? No,
he's not going to do that, so it should not
be factored into it. That margin of victory. Quote, I'm
really not I'm really not a fan of that deal.

Speaker 1 (01:13:59):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:14:00):
Jim Phillips, the AEC Commissioner, said he was quote incredibly
surprised and very disappointed to see the Hurricanes did not
rise after that win against Pitt and Bit was ranked
twenty second in the rankings last week. But he did
point to the Selection Committee chairman Hunter Yurachek saying no
teams are locked in the position, even if they are

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not playing this week. His quote was idle teams can
move following the results of the championship games. Teams that
are idle can move up or down. That's when I
asked Sar yesterday and he laughed about it, and I
asked it, does.

Speaker 1 (01:14:34):
It give you some hope?

Speaker 2 (01:14:35):
No, he said, that's because they'd have to jump past Miami.
You know, it's not just having to jump past one
team or maybe two teams, but jumping past a third makes.

Speaker 1 (01:14:45):
It kind of you know, out of the question.

Speaker 2 (01:14:48):
On that, Phillip says, the a SEC has been in
constant contact with the committee and that's going to continue
up to the selections. Hey, I know that Crystal Conti
has been you know, making his phone calls to committee members.
One of the committee members, by the way, the athletic
director for Virginia, I think was supposed to be the
game last night.

Speaker 1 (01:15:08):
I'm not sure.

Speaker 2 (01:15:08):
One other comment from Phillips, he said, we know the
final rankings aren't until Sunday, so there's time for course correction.
By the way, that's become a big buzz phrase. I
heard Reece Davis say it the other night.

Speaker 1 (01:15:20):
Course correction.

Speaker 2 (01:15:21):
Yeah, by the committee, he said, the Committee's made it
clear that idle teams can move up in the final rankings,
and we're going to continue our efforts as there's no
question Miami's a playoff team and they've earned a spot
in the playoff.

Speaker 4 (01:15:34):
Craig, you'll like this note.

Speaker 3 (01:15:35):
The ACC network has opted to re air the Miami
Notre Dame game several times per day throughout the week.

Speaker 1 (01:15:44):
Okay, all right, but I mean that.

Speaker 3 (01:15:48):
Proves the point those teams are so so similar in
terms of resume to me that the head to head
has to carry Today. You can have a whole other
conversation about your strength of schedule and whether Texas and
Door Vanderbilt and or BYU deserve to be ahead of
those two teams. But when it comes to Notre Dame
in Miami, I understand his gripe. Now, if he's gonna

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sit here and argue that five loss Duke deserves to
be a playoff team, there's there's no chance of that.

Speaker 1 (01:16:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:16:14):
Yeah, I think he's just trying to be a good commissioner.

Speaker 1 (01:16:17):
That's right. I'm on that front.

Speaker 2 (01:16:18):
Okay, all right, coming up, we're gonna hear from Brian Schottenheimer,
the Cowboys head coach, on the eve of their big
game tonight against the Detroit Liones. Game you can hear
on ninety eight point one FM Cavet Tonight as we
continue from the UT campus on this Thursday on sports
Radio AM thirteen under the Zone in the iHeartRadio Appay after, there.

Speaker 1 (01:16:43):
Is the NFL Football tonight and.

Speaker 2 (01:16:46):
For Dallas Cowboys Cowboys take on the Detroit Lions kickoff
around seven to fifteen ish and you can hear it
on ninety eight point one FM KVET. Brian Schottenheimer, the
Cowboys head coach, was asked about being all fired up
at his guys before practice, getting ready, before they were
getting ready for this one.

Speaker 1 (01:17:05):
Why was he so fired up?

Speaker 11 (01:17:07):
I trust my gut there are a few things that
I saw that just kind of made me want to
have a little conversation with the boys, and so that's
what I did. I called them up, I had a
little conversation, and they got the message and we went
and had a good practice.

Speaker 2 (01:17:23):
Okay, so the Cowboys from the national perspective, still have
a shot to be in the playoffs. That's the big picture.
Look at it. There's six or five and one. I
think got a ways to go on that. But shot
member was asked how much does he talk about the
big picture as opposed to taking each game game by game?

Speaker 11 (01:17:42):
Yeah, I'm a game by game guy, always have been,
always will be. I just think it serves you the best,
you know, to do it that way because it's such
a long season. It'd be different if you were playing
six or eight games, you know only, But when you're
talking seventeen games before the playoffs start, I think you
have to, you know, take each day and each week

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by themselves. And the other thing that I believe in
is I believe you really focus more on yourself. You know,
we talk more about ourselves and we talk about the opponent.
You know, I think you know, our best ability to
perform well and win games. Is based on what we
do and how we perform and how we execute, not
what the opponent does. And we play really good opponents

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every week. But I just think it it's an important
part of the process. And then ultimately when we get
to a super Bowl, it's going to be no different.

Speaker 5 (01:18:32):
It's going to be.

Speaker 11 (01:18:33):
Mondays a Monday and Tuesdays and Tuesdays. You got the
two weeks and all that stuff. But like, I think
that's important that you build into these guys. Hey, we're
going to take it one day at a time, one
week at a time. And why because your focus needs
to be where your feed are.

Speaker 2 (01:18:45):
The Cowboys have had success of late with the slant routes,
be it to Cede Lamb or especially George Pickens, and
is he anticipating is shotnaig Or anticipating the Lion's game
planning against that?

Speaker 11 (01:18:59):
Yeah, well, I mean I said this, Joe, He's gonna
run slants in this game.

Speaker 1 (01:19:03):
Just put that there.

Speaker 11 (01:19:04):
And so hey, guys, Kelvin Sheppard, he's gonna run slams.

Speaker 1 (01:19:07):
That's part of the deal.

Speaker 9 (01:19:09):
But we definitely have compliments off slats.

Speaker 1 (01:19:11):
Uh.

Speaker 11 (01:19:11):
So again, if they want to play him they can,
but I think it's really cool. I saw something where
he was talking about the slants and it was funny
because I was listening to it last night. Somebody sent him.
I was like, he didn't really tell him much. He'd
told him a lot, but he didn't really tell him much.
And that's what I love about GP. But again, you know,
we have compliments for whatever we're doing, and the marriage

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part of what we do is important, whether it's run
to pass, pass to run, whatever it is formations. But again,
I think that executing something that the defense knows is coming,
I think is really cool.

Speaker 1 (01:19:46):
Schottenhimer was also asked how much has the return of
both Malie Hooker and Donovan Wilson helped the defensive communication
out on the field.

Speaker 9 (01:19:55):
Huge.

Speaker 11 (01:19:56):
Yeah, I mean that's the thing everybody talks about Quinn
because you know, Quinn and Logan show up when we
start playing great defense.

Speaker 5 (01:20:01):
But the other thing, Demo comes back.

Speaker 11 (01:20:03):
All great things, right, all great things, but those two
guys coming back.

Speaker 5 (01:20:07):
You can make an argument.

Speaker 11 (01:20:08):
That that's as impressive and as important as anything because
of the communication in the back half. So Flues calls
the play to Canine or Logan, right, they're the green dot.
They communicate that, but the guys making a lot of
the adjustments are the safeties and sharing that information. If
you hear those guys both talk, man, they are loud,
they are confident. They they're not saying hey, I kind

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of want to do this, Like they're making their calls
and like they're putting everybody in the right spot. And
without that, with as much motion and things, we see
your loss. So those two guys get a ton of
credit for how well we're playing.

Speaker 2 (01:20:46):
So when talking about the defense, there's that whole thing
about eye discipline and the improvement in that is one
thing that Schottenheimer was hoping to see, and he was
asked about how important that'll be against the Lions.

Speaker 11 (01:20:58):
So much better, But it starts with the communication. But yes,
they're seeing less now, which is good. They're reading their
keys better, their triangle better, which is good. In this
game is going to be very important because of a
number of things. They do a ton of shifts emotions,
which we do the same, you know, So they're going
to challenge your eyes. They're going to challenge your you know,
you're changing enough strength and moving up front and doing

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all those things like that's not easy. It sounds like
it's easy, and in the classroom it is easy, but
the tempo that you do it at is challenging. And
and then the speed that they have. You know, they've
got a lot of elite speed. And so if you're
out of a gap or if you do have bad eyes,
they've got guys that can penalize you.

Speaker 2 (01:21:37):
In well with the Longhorns or excuse me, the Cowboys
getting ready to play a Lions team that is very physical,
hands on you, a lot, very handsy as well.

Speaker 1 (01:21:49):
So how does the game plan to get something like that?
I mean, I really respect him.

Speaker 11 (01:21:53):
I respect you know what what you know, you know
Coach Shepherd and his staff do, and the way they
play like they don't care. I mean they just get
up there and they pressman a man and they don't
look at the jersey numbers and say, oh, that's eighty
eight Ceed Lamb or that's George Pickens. They don't care.
Justin Jefferson doesn't matter. They're aggressive with their hands. They
play a physical style that I love. And we're going

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to be challenged, and I think our guys are excited
about that challenge and they're looking forward to it, but
you know the whole team plays a certain way, and
that's that physical, you know, intense, you know through the
whistle mentality, and that starts with dan.

Speaker 2 (01:22:31):
Thoughts of Brian Schottenheim or the Cowboys head coaches. They
get ready for this matchup with the Detroit Lions. And
again you can hear that contest on ninety eight point
one FMK veat coming your way this evening kickoff right
around seven fifteen. Hey, A couple of more college football notes,
in specific with regard to Loghorns. Arch Manning today name

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one of twenty two SEMMI finalists for the twenty twenty
five Earl Campbell Tyler Rose Award. Last season, quinn Ewers
and Gunner helmwer semifinalists. In twenty twenty three, Jonathan Brooks
was a finalist for the award and Bjhn Robinson was
a finalist in twenty twenty two. Deontay Foreman won the

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award in twenty sixteen. The award is named, of course,
in honor of the long worn legend, the nineteen seventy
seven Heisman Trophy winner and Pro Football Hall of Famer
Earl Campbell. Is given annually to the top offensive player
in the FBS Football Bowl Subdivision who also exhibits the

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enduring characteristics that defined Campbell integrity, performance, teamwork, sportsmanship, drive, community,
and tenacity. Additionally, it's limited to players who were born
in the state of Texas, or attended a high school
in Texas or attended a Texas to college or university.

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Of course, Manning has played in twenty four career games,
fourteen starts. He's eleven and three as a start. He
has started all twelve games this season and has led
the Long Runch to that nine and three win including
the three ap Top ten victories. That's the most by
ANYFBS team since the twenty nineteen LSU Tigers.

Speaker 1 (01:24:21):
The Long One is the only.

Speaker 2 (01:24:22):
Team in the nation with two wins over opponents currently
ranked currently ranked in the CFP Top ten, and Manning
ranked second in the SEC and tenth in the FBS
and points responsible for with one hundred ninety eight on
the season, and he has twenty four passing touchdowns and
also ranked fourth in the SEC. That was one Long

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Warn football note. Another one is that Michael Taff has
been selected to the twenty twenty five SEC Football Community
Service Team. He's also a finalist for the Werfel Trophy
the Burls were a trophy, and as a member of
the Allstate af Good Works Team, he's one of sixteen

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players named of the team, with all sixteen conference teams
having one representative. He also was recently announced as one
of three finalists for that All State Warfel Trophy that
recognizes college football players from across FBS who exemplify community service,
academic excellence, and athletic achievement. He is the sixth long

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Worn to be named a semi finalist for the award.
He's the first long Worn finals for the awards in
Sam Allegher five years ago in twenty twenty. Sam Acho
won it ten years prior to that, back in twenty ten. Now,
in addition to being a finalist for the Werfiol Trophy
and a member of the All State AFCA Good Works Team,
he's also a finalist for the Burlsworth Trophy now that's

(01:25:46):
given annually to college football's top player who began his
career as a walk on, as taff did. He is
also a semi finalist for the Jim four Award this
year and the Jason Witten Collegiate Man of the Year
Award of course, he's preseason first Team All SEC, placed
on preseason Watched list for the mcgirsky Trophy, the Jim

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Thorpe Award, and the Lot Impact Trophy, and he returned
to the UT defense after garnering second Team All American
recognition from AP in twenty twenty four. He's been exceptional
in his work in the community, most notably, as we know,
working against working with Texas Against Fentanyl, the organization that
raises awareness and provides resources and advocacy for prevention and

(01:26:29):
education about fentanyl. And also we all remember that special
tie he wore at SEC Media Days to honor the
victims of the July fourth flooding at Camp Mystic, and
that tie was embroidered with the initials of the twenty
seven victims, twenty four campers, two counselors, and the camp
director to ensure that they were remembered as heroes and
As an Austin Native who has a personal connection to

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the area, Taff wanted to use his platform to ensure
the victims they were remembered and to support the grieving families.
He also participating in the fundraiser for the families. He's
also partner with Crimestoppers of Houston's million for million campaign
that raises awareness about those dangers of Fenton. Also good
news there, good stuff about a good guy in Michael Tapp.

(01:27:14):
All right, we have more coming up here on this
Thursday afternoon on Sports Radio AM thirteen under the zone
of the iHeartRadio.

Speaker 1 (01:27:19):
App the Like Car. This is that man you like
so much? Right Jay?

Speaker 3 (01:27:29):
Yeah, Nathaniel Rayliff in the Night Sweats. I'd liked them
for a little while now, saw them at ACL back
when I was a UT student.

Speaker 1 (01:27:36):
Yeah, good stuff. This is what called Survivor.

Speaker 3 (01:27:39):
Yeah, yeah, which I actually watched this show last night.

Speaker 4 (01:27:42):
You ever watched Survivor?

Speaker 1 (01:27:44):
I did it one time.

Speaker 2 (01:27:46):
I think I think I checked out on it after
Jimmy Johnson was on it.

Speaker 1 (01:27:52):
It might have been I watched it back sometime again.

Speaker 2 (01:27:56):
Okay, of course, the Loggorn football team trying to survive
I can get into the college football playoff.

Speaker 1 (01:28:03):
More on that at a moment.

Speaker 2 (01:28:04):
From an unlikely or unexpected source, Long Worn women's head
coach Pick Schaeffer.

Speaker 1 (01:28:09):
We heard from him earlier in the program, but he.

Speaker 2 (01:28:11):
Was he was asked if he's doing anything differently in
preparation knowing his team is on a great run, and
of where that stacks up with teams that he has
had in the past.

Speaker 5 (01:28:22):
It changes by opponent. But this is this is my These.

Speaker 10 (01:28:28):
Are all my practices from twenty four to twenty five.

Speaker 5 (01:28:31):
Today was day forty six.

Speaker 10 (01:28:34):
It's the same practice plan that I had last year,
the year before, the year before, the year before the
year before, except for the meat and potatoes of it,
which was this time last year, I was getting ready
for James Madison. Today I'm getting ready for North Carolina.
I missed a creature of habit and so.

Speaker 5 (01:28:55):
I do that now. Backed off today.

Speaker 10 (01:28:58):
Just because of our situation with having only nine available players,
and so we didn't go as long, and I backed
out of some things that were written down. So, uh,
you know, just trying to navigate where we are right
now because I haven't been, to be honest with you,
I've not been in this predicament ever. I've never had

(01:29:20):
three kids out this time of year for an extended
period of time, and so it's a challenge and so.

Speaker 5 (01:29:29):
I'm really careful.

Speaker 10 (01:29:30):
But you know, I think too you have to go
back to what Kirby Smart said the other day when
they asked him if he'd rather be off or getting
ready for the college football playoff or playing for the
SEC championship, And his comment was, well, I grew up
thinking the SEC Championship was a pretty big deal. He's like,

(01:29:50):
you can't practice scared. You can't worry about injuries. Injuries happen,
but if you practice scared, you're going to have a
scared team. And we just we you know, with us,
with my team, they know when we step between the lines,
there's a way we do things. So if that's the

(01:30:12):
standard and that's what we do, my job now is Okay.

Speaker 5 (01:30:17):
We're down to what we're down to.

Speaker 10 (01:30:19):
We might go shorter, you know, when we step between
the lines, but we still when we're between the lines,
we got to.

Speaker 5 (01:30:27):
Go at a level, you know, a high level.

Speaker 10 (01:30:30):
Of intensity that that we're accustomed to. And so that's
kind of where I'm at right now. I believe all
these practices lead up to February and March. I mean,
that's our job, right and so I'm pretty much a
creature of habit when it comes to that. As far

(01:30:51):
as this team, I mean, the best team I ever
had was my team in nineteen that was a number
one seed, that got sent to Oregon to play the
number two seed in the sweet sixteen in the Elite eight.

Speaker 5 (01:31:07):
That was my best team.

Speaker 10 (01:31:08):
It wasn't the two teams before that that played for
the national championship. If we hadn't had to go to
Oregon and play Oregon in front of thirteen thousand ducks
got beat eighty eight eighty four, that team would have
won a national championship. In my mind, no question, that
team was really good. But sometimes, and y'all have heard

(01:31:31):
me say this, in the NCAA tournament, you got to
get hot and you got to have a little luck.
We were unlucky in that we got sent to Oregon
to play Sabrini and Escue and that team you know,
out there on their home floor. They were the two
and we were the one. So this team they got

(01:31:53):
a chance. But right now it's December two, and to me,
that's all they got right now, Terry, we we got
a long way to go.

Speaker 5 (01:32:01):
We got to get better in a whole bunch of areas.

Speaker 10 (01:32:06):
I think that thing I love about this group is
just that they are great kids, and I love them
like they are so much fun to be around.

Speaker 5 (01:32:16):
They're great kids.

Speaker 10 (01:32:18):
They're highly motivated, they're all in and so you know,
with that being said, you want it badly for them.
And as I've told them, you know, there's no giving.

Speaker 5 (01:32:35):
You can't.

Speaker 10 (01:32:38):
You can't assume this is going to happen every year.
And I think that's the that's your flesh, right, you
just think, well, we do this every year. We do
we do it every year. But you can't take it
for granted. And it happens every year because you embrace the.

Speaker 5 (01:32:56):
Grind, you get involved in the.

Speaker 10 (01:32:58):
Process, you bury your head the process, and then you
look up and you're playing on April first, second, third
in the final four. That's where we have to get
to right now. We got to be We got to
really continued. We've been doing it. We just have to
continue to bury our head in the process. If we
do that, we follow the plan that we have every year,

(01:33:24):
we'll wake up in April and be in the Final four.

Speaker 2 (01:33:31):
So a lot of college basketball conversation, but if you
know Vic Shaffer, you know he's a huge college football fan.
He was there on the sidelines for the Texas went
over Texas A and M, and so he was asked
about this whole business about whether the long Ones belonged
in the College Football Playoff, and boy did he have
a ready response.

Speaker 10 (01:33:48):
It blows my mind that it's even a topic of conversation.
Right when you look at our schedule, our strength of schedule, which,
if I'm not mistaken, in the CFP, things of that
that are important. The first line says something about strength

(01:34:12):
of schedule. I'm pretty sure ours is one, two or
three in that line.

Speaker 5 (01:34:19):
Somewhere.

Speaker 10 (01:34:21):
They keep wanting to hold the Florida game against them.
I tell you what, you come live in our league,
you go play on the road in our league.

Speaker 5 (01:34:31):
I don't care where it is.

Speaker 10 (01:34:34):
Our final four team at Arkansas in nineteen ninety seven
ninety eight went to Ole Miss. They were the worst
team in the league by far. They were horrible. We
went in there on Valentine's Day and got beat thirty
in the Valentine's Day massacre.

Speaker 5 (01:34:55):
It was god awful. And there wasn't nobody in the g.

Speaker 10 (01:35:01):
SO to hold the Florida game over their head when
they have beaten three teams in the top ten. If
I'm not mistaken, nobody else in the deal has done.

Speaker 9 (01:35:13):
That, have they?

Speaker 10 (01:35:17):
So if you're supposed to be taking the best teams
how can it even be considered You're going to hold
the fact that they took overtime to beat Kentucky If
I'm not mistaken, Georgia last year went to Kentucky and
won by one point. I'm pretty sure I'm rite on that, Danny.

(01:35:41):
They won by one, so you can't hold that against us.
You want to go to Mississippi State. Mississippi State's pretty good.
You want to go in there and play in front
of sixty five thousand with the cow bell in everybody's hands.

Speaker 5 (01:35:57):
You think that's easy?

Speaker 10 (01:35:59):
They still want I mean, how can you penalized teams
for winning in the SEC? They played Ohio State to
one possession and had the ball when the game was over.
If I'm not mistaken, Ain't nobody else even been in
the same zip code when they played those guys? But

(01:36:19):
three top ten wins, strength of schedule did it in
the SEC? I mean, when you look at some of
those teams and their schedule that are going to get in,
it ain't even apples. It's not even fruit to fruit,

(01:36:41):
much less apples to oranges.

Speaker 9 (01:36:43):
It's not even close.

Speaker 10 (01:36:45):
So I don't understand how it's even being considered that
they're not in like I don't get it. Don't hold
against them that they're nine and three. You don't have
to justify their names. Three. They're nine in three is
way better than anybody else's ten and two. Think about that,

(01:37:09):
and stop holding it against them that they lost an
SEC game on the road.

Speaker 5 (01:37:15):
At Florida.

Speaker 10 (01:37:17):
By the way, it was packed that night too, So
I don't and the other pieces here, here's the deal.
If they're gonna hold that against them, then you might
as well call every TV executive and tell them right

(01:37:39):
now today you can just forget college football in September
because there's not gonna be any games worth watching. You
might as well call Sam Houston State, get them to
renew the Piney Woods rivalry with Steven F. Austin and
put that game on national TV, because you're not gonna
get any university up to play another university of if

(01:38:03):
you're gonna penalize one of those teams, and one of
them is gonna get penalized because they lost, and in
the SEC they're fixing to go to nine games, y'all?

Speaker 1 (01:38:16):
Nine?

Speaker 10 (01:38:18):
So I don't understand. I just don't understand it, Like
it makes no sense to me.

Speaker 2 (01:38:26):
Nobody can speak it like Vick Schaeffer does. He can
unwind and let it go.

Speaker 5 (01:38:32):
All right.

Speaker 2 (01:38:32):
We'll be back to wrap up today's edition of the
program here on sports Radio AM thirteen under the Zone
in the iHeartRadio app

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