September 16, 2025 • 21 mins
Editor-in-Chief Greg Tepper joins the show from Dave Campbell's Texas Football. After Texas A&M's massive win at Notre Dame, Greg explains why they've claimed the top spot in this week's DCTF FBS power poll.
They also preview and predict a few notable matchups in high school football this weekend, including a unique 11-man matchup for Gordon!
They also preview and predict a few notable matchups in high school football this weekend, including a unique 11-man matchup for Gordon!
Mark as Played
Transcript
Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:00):
And that's always our cue to welcome in our good friend.
And the editor in chief of Dave Campbell's Texas Football
magazine is Greg Temper. And I got to ask you something.
I twice in the last of forty eight hours or
twenty four hours whatever have started to say, manage to
get it?
Speaker 2 (00:19):
And I stop and I go, no, editor in chief,
do you.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Ever do that anymore? Or you are you totally ingrained
in the eic now.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
All the time, all the time. It happens constantly.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
I mean, I was managing editor from July twenty thirteen
until March of.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Twenty twenty five, and so like, I'm not gonna look.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
I can't what is the normal amount of time it
takes me to learn anything, right, let alone unlearn something.
I mean, once it gets in there, it's hard to say.
I mean, I think that you and I I've compared
to you and I similarly that like, there's stuff that
gets stuck in our brain that we just can't unlearn,
can't unknow these things. And I'm sure it happens to
(01:03):
you that somebody will ask you something, especially about you know,
the Texas Longhorns, or about Texas Texas high school football.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
And you'll just spout off be like, oh, yeah, that
wasn't that twenty twelve title game.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
I want to say it was a you know, he
ran for three hundred and fifteen yard or something like that,
and you'll just like kind of shake your own head
and go, how do I know that? Why do I
know that? That's a similar thing to me that I'm
trying to get it out of my brain? And that's
that's proving harder than I thought it would be.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Okay, all right, it makes me feel better.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
All right, So here's something that folks are going to
get have to get used to.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
There's a new sheriff in town.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
At least as it relates to the Dave Campbell's Texas
Football Magazine college Football power Pole, the FBS power Pole
in the state. There's an Aggie team sitting at the top,
number one, with Texas number two.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
About that.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
Yeah, bold of me to take a phone call from Austin,
Texas after we've done this, but yeah, this is a look.
I don't think there's really any any doubt considering what
we've seen the past couple of weeks. You know, obviously Texas,
you know, at sitting at two and one I would
guess that Texas fans would look across the landscape of
(02:15):
what they've been able, what they put together and said
that it is not up to the standard of the
number one team in the state of Texas. Meanwhile, at
teches A and m there's essentially no notes Now now,
you know, going on the road and getting that road
win at Notre Dame, which was at historic one that
has been the road win.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
Against the good team has.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
Been a real bugaboo for that Aggie's program. And to
go and do that is awfully remarkable. That's not to
say it was pretty at all times, and it's not
to say that they're there without their concerns, especially I
would say some newfound concerns defensively. You know, let's let's
remembers the Notre Dame team that really struggled offensively in
(02:55):
their opener and now they they've found they've they've made
their hay against the ag in South Bend. But you know,
a win is a win, and I feel like they
have found a winning formula there with Marcel Reed and
what has turned out to be an exceptional group of receivers. Uh,
They're going to test a lot of a lot of
defenses in the SEC. Now what they got to shore
up things in the on the defensive side, because you
(03:18):
can't you can't go out there and you know, just
ask the text of Tech day year teams of old
whether or not you can you can win every game
by going out there and just slinging it around.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
And just waiting for the ball to come back to you. Uh,
this is They'll have to figure that out.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
But look, I would say that there is understandable uh
jubilation and Aggie land these days, because the Aggies certainly
look the part of a team that that may be
different than the the old eight and four that they're
so they've become unfortunately accustomed to.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Do we find out a little more about Texas Tech
this week playing in Utah?
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Yeah, yeah, we absolutely do.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
Look, if you're again, if you're Tech to Tech, you
essentially can't have any notes about what you've had.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
So far.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
They have been as dominant as against there there statistically
the number two offense in all of all of college
football in total offense six.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Hundred and two yards per game.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
And if you care about style points, they have got
style points out the Wazoo, a sixty point win over
Arkansas playing bloff fifth you know what a four you know,
fifty eight point win, forty eight point win over Kent State,
and then they go in they mollywop Oregon State in
a game that technically did take six hours and thirteen minutes,
(04:37):
but they're you know, they didn't take that long. Now
they get two real tests. One they have to go
on the road, which has been a real challenge for
Joey maguire and company. And two they have to play
an actual, really good team in Utah. This is a
Utah team that is rolling the number sixteen team in
(04:57):
the nation. Has looked really good, and their defense, especially,
this is going to be you know, you could if
you want it to be cynical, you could say, Okay,
Texas Tech is averaging six hundred yards per game, but
they haven't played a defense that can Faulga mirror. Yet
Utah does more than Faulga mirror. They are going to
be really, really exceptional defensively, and that is kind of
a double challenge for Texa Tech. Now here's the thing.
(05:20):
If they beat Utah, you better get on board the
hype train, because you started looking at their schedule.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Where it's at Houston you.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
Know better at Houston team obviously coming off of a
really nice win over Colorado last week, but still a
game that Texa Tech should expect to win. Hold against Kansas.
That's at Arizona State. You know who knows where they are.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Right now, depending on They've been real up and down
in Oklahoma State.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
I mean you start looking out there and you say,
where's the law, where's the game? You're sure they're going
to lose. So this is a real, I think, a
real early turning point here for the Texas Tech football team,
and also just the narrative about Texas Tech moving forward.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Okay, all right, I agree with all of that with you.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Now I would say this when you said style points
out the Wazoo, that's actually North Texas because they had
style points and beating Wazoo fifty nine to ten.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Now, I asked you last week if they won and.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
If Texas State lost Arizona State, would North Texas be
the top G five? And you said you thought maybe,
yet in the rankings still trailing Texas State wasn't It
was not an embarrassing loss by the Bobcats out in
Tempe either.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
No, I thought Texas State acquited themselves fairly well. And
obviously I think that when you take a look at
the power pool right now, Texas State that win over
UPSA is probably the single best win of any of
the teams in the G five. But I'll tell you
what North Texas did last week, wildly, wildly impressive. And
this is an offense that feels like it has hit
(06:47):
its stride. Drew Messimaker making all the right plays, nine touchdowns,
no interceptions, McKenzie McGill, they found a running game they
feel good about and shock of all shots of the
defense looks like a team that that's going to make place.
At the very least. What they are doing is they're
turning the ball over if they're going out there, and
they are getting there, making plays defensively and getting takeaways,
(07:10):
which is something that they just simply were not able
to do last year. And so I think that is
a real step forward for North Texas. You know, a
real interesting test this week going on the road to Army, where,
I mean, who knows what to expect from RBP at
this point that you want to talk about a team
that is entirely, entirely unpredictable with a Week one loss
(07:33):
to Tarleton and then a week two win at Kansas State.
But I will say that this is a an opportunity,
I think for North Texas to really prove that things
are different, that they're a true contender in the American
I was really impressed with what they did welcoming Wazoo
rather rude linked.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
I want to ask you about the two other games
that are kind of intriguing. One is obviously Baylor or
Arizona State, and the other what is the final ever
ever skill it game at least in the foreseeable future
between TCU and SMU.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
Yeah, they're going to do the A and M Texas thing.
You know, They're going to take a break, and then
eventually there's going to be enough kind of clamoring that
this thing has got to get back together and they'll
do it. I mean, Zauri and Kansas just did it too,
you know, they just went their separate ways for about
fifteen years and then came back together for what ended
up being a whale of the ball game between Kansas.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
And West Virginia. West Virginia.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, backyard brawl the same way. This is
a I think for SMU and TCU, this is a
game that both of them need to win for not
just in the micro, but in the macro. Obviously, in
the macro you want to have these bragging rights for
as long as you want. You want to keep the
skillet until people decide to put a side petty differences
(08:47):
and play the game again. But in the micro, I
also think this is a really important.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Game for both kings. You know, TCU, I think kind of.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
Not surprisingly, but I would say rather under the radar.
He was up to a really nice start that went
over at North Carolina, and they fit and they go
and they beat up deblat Christian. If they beat at SMU,
they've got to feel really good heading into conference play,
and I feel like this is a really important game
for them to prove that that Week one win over
North Carolina wasn't a mirage, it wasn't kind of a
(09:17):
Week one kind of storm out of the gates and
surprise team with a new coach that they are back
for real.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
And then for SMU, you know, they they they.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
Have turned in two consecutive rather lackluster performances, one of
them ended in a loss to Baylor at home, and
the other one where they went to Missouri State. I
have a lot of questions, but they go to Missouri
State and they won twenty eight to ten, and the
offense just could not get in gear. They have got
something to prove, I think in this game against TCU
(09:49):
a lot on the line there. I think that's a
really important part. And then for Baylor, this is a team.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Can Baylor kind of.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
Continue the momentum that they started right they're off to
a three and zero start or a two to one start,
that after bouncing back with that loss to Auburn and
the opener, you get a nice winter resting you right now.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
In my mind, I mean, they.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
Eat Stamford last week, But in my mind, I have
one good performance and one poor performance. Which one is
the real Baylor. We will find out a lot more
this week when they welcome in Arizona State, which I
think is a really critical game because I think that
when you take a look at their schedule, it doesn't
exactly lighten up from there. But Arizona State, if they
can get this win, they can at least establish themselves
as an upperfessional on Big twelve.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Team Talking football with Greg Tepperman. No, not the managing
See I just did it again there, Editor in chief
Dave Campbell's Texts, I I did it just because you
were on with us that time. I think the the
e I see the editor in chief of Dave Campbe's
text Football magazine, all right, let's let's jump out high school.
This is kind of a little bit of a goofy question.
(10:48):
But but I am kind of curious because when we
follow teams that are really, really good, we have a
tendency to backshelve them for several weeks. You know what,
check back rids. They're going to blow out teams, and
we've been doing that for years. With Carthage, where are
you with South Lake Carrol right now? I mean they're
number one in the state and they've blown out team
(11:09):
Now finally they're gonna get a little bit of a
test this week playing Ulis Trinity. I think, but where
are you with with Southlake Carrol right now?
Speaker 4 (11:17):
Right now, they get right now three and zero trending.
You know, right now they get incomplete trending towards.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Are really positive grade.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
But right now they just have an incomplete because they've
just been a lot better than the others. Now. I
think last week what they did to Byron Nelson, A
district opener is really really impressive, especially defense simply they
were really really strong.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
In that game.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
But this is their huge test when they take on
Uless Trinity in a matchup of two kind of pedigreed
DFW programs with different identities that are kind of returning
to former glory. UIs Trinity had a couple of lean
for their standards lean years recently, but they are back
(11:57):
in a big way and they're doing the old ULLs
and a new.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Thing they're doing.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
They're doing the thing that they used to pack sixty
thousand people allegedly in the Texas Stadium to do when
they played South Lake Carrol, where it is run the
dang ball with JT. Harris their new running back. They've
got They've got mac Lion Weaver, the coach's kid and
actually Steve Lin Weaver's grandson if you want to feel old,
playing quarterback for them, and they are defense that they're
(12:21):
big and physical and they're mean going up against the
South Lake Carroll team that had looked terrific with quarterback games.
Lowrenda wide receiver Brock Boyd, the wide receiver.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
Committed to Ohio State. And then we mentioned that defense.
This is their big test.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
This is for me the well we'll really find out
if they go out there and they win this game,
and they win it comfortably, then will feel really good
about keeping them number one, at least until they give
us reason to doubt them. The one thing I will
say is that Riley Dodge, I need to confirm this.
I know he's never lost the game as a head
coach at Dragon Stadium. I am fairly certain when he
(12:56):
played at South Lake Carol he never lost the game
at home, which would mean that he's never left that
stadium with a loss.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
I think that's right. I think that's correct.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
I need to so a lot of that.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
You will surely want to do something nobody else has
ever done, literally his playing our coaching career, in order
to take command of that district.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
You make me laughing talking about the thing about the
alleged sixty thousand there.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
You've heard that.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
You've heard that number as I've heard that number before,
and there was no real way to really confirm the
thing because they still held that attendance record. It was
still marked as forty nine nine five three for plain
O PMNG and seventy seven. And there's no no, no, no,
it was. It was sixty one down, but it was
part of what a triple header that day or a
doubleheader that day?
Speaker 3 (13:44):
It was part of a triple header.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
And I will say, I want to say this game
was back in two thousand and six around the There
is video of.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
This online and you can see and I will say.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
This, there are a lot of people in Texas Stadium. Yeah,
I don't know the sixty thousand. There's probably more than
is reported, but I will say that that there's a
lot of people there.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
I think that.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
But that's that's one of those that's one of those
fishing stories, right, It just gets bigger every time you
tell it.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Yeah, all right.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
On the for real meter, we saw Westlake have a
response by beating a task to see the last week
they get Sybil of Steel this week.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
How about that matchup?
Speaker 4 (14:23):
Yeah, I mean, well, first of all, we need to
come home a week after two weeks after driving a
San Benito and a week after driving to Humble, they finally.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Get to stay home and sleep in their.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
Own bed and take on a good civili Steel team,
a highly talented Sibilist steel team that graduated pretty heavily,
but I think has gotten the wheels back on. I
was very impressed last week with kind of the emergence
of the offense and especially the running game for west Lake.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
If they're continuing to.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
Get that in support of Reese Wise, then I think
they're a real contender in sixth A Division two, which
is where it feels like they're headed. There is a
pass of them to go six A Division one. Sixth
Division two steals more likely right now, but I think
that that is a real credit. There's gonna be some people,
and I understand this who are gonna from Astro Smith
that whenever tasks see because tasks the star quarterback, Cardi
(15:11):
and act didn't play, I would just say Cardia and
AAC didn't play defense. And this was a really impressive
Westlake performance. So I don't take anything away from west Lake.
If you want to say give it the task, see
a bit of a mulligan, I'm here for that, But
I'm not taking anything away from Westlake going on the
road and getting a really impressive win.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
All right, As you like to say, the meanest thing
we do to each other every week, I give you
a choice of three games you can transport to one,
but only one of those, So I give you these
and I'm leaving, for the first time in memory or
at least in a while, I'm leaving six A out
of this thing this week. That's why I asked you
about those other two six eight games, because because I'm
(15:51):
not having you choose one, all right, you can have
your choice in five A Division two number two Richmond
Randalls of defending state champ against number nine for Ben Marshall.
You can have out of four A D one Kilgore
ranked third against in four A D two Pleasant Growth.
(16:12):
That's the game I have on Victory plus Friday nights
up in Texas, Canada or or Uno the UNO number
one in four A Division one defending state champion Solana
against number one in three A Division one Franklin.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Which of these is to your liking?
Speaker 4 (16:31):
They're all They're all interesting. I will I'll rule out
the Solana and a Franklin game only because it does
feel like we've seen this movie before. We saw it
last week when Franklin Slam could just not find many
teams that want to play them, and so they've had
to take on teams that are smaller in them. They
played they played Gunner last week.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
They beat Gunner.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
I actually thought Gunner acquitted themselves pretty well but just
kind of got overwhelmed in the second half. By that,
I think Franklin will probably be a similar story, although.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
I do think it's a Franklin team that is that
is kind of surging.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
The Randall and Marshall game is interesting because if you
remember last year, this is the game we kind of
circled as potentially the changing of the guard in five
Day Division two in Houston Popen.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
Marshall long been dominant there.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
Randall went and really ransacked that that Marshall team in
route to a state championship. Do they give the mercy?
But the answer is probably Kilgore and Pleasant Grove. Pleasant
Groves front seven is nasty. They are really really fun
to watch. H The offense, I think is starting to
get his wheels on consistently and that's going to be
dangerous going up against the Killgoard team that just handed
(17:35):
Gilmer their first their worst loss in forty eight years.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
I couldn't believe that.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
It was a shocking result, and by the way, it
has since the Gilmour community into like panic mode. I
have heard nothing for tons of Gilmer fans who are
what is what is going on? All that's to say,
kill Gore has looked spectacular to start the year. That
fronts they're they're really physical, They've got like Engraves their
star wide receiver, and of course they played for a
(18:03):
state championship a year ago. That's the game I'm going
to be keeping an eye on. It's a it's a
fabulous game and I'm excited you're going to be on
the call for it.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Yeah, looking forward to that.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Here's a question for you, Okay, and uh uh, maybe
I'll trot out Salona next week because I've got Solana
and Frisco Panther Creek next week, which should be which
would be a lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
But here's my question for you.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
If Salina handles its business this week and does like
you think, and I think so as well, dispatches Franklin
dropping the lines to one and two, and Lanto handles Gerald,
are you going to have to sit across from Ashley
Pickle proud Lano graduate and tell her that Lanto was
the number one team in the state and three eight
Division one next week.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
I think we're haves to because at that point it
will be a two.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
Loss, you know, Franklin team.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
It's hard to keep it even with two good losses,
so trying to spring with a bit of a baffling
loss in week one, but trying to spring it turned
out to be better than we thought they were. And
then and then obviously this week to Salida. But what
in two teams hard to rank them? Number one would
be four and oh in this i'll play this game
means Gerald Jerald's three. Oh, it's a good team before
a team. If they were going to take care of him,
then then yeah, I think they'd be deserving number ones.
(19:10):
I will say one more thing. I'm actually very glad
you didn't put in the three potential games Gordon and Thorndale.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Okay, so if people.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
Don't know about this, Gordon the reigning one A Division
one state champs two time, which are by the way,
six man football. They're playing Thorndale, which was a playoff team,
an area round playoff team in two A Division one.
That's right, Gordon's gonna put five more guys on the
field and play an eleven man game against a pretty
good Thorndale team. It is going to be absolutely fascinating
(19:43):
to see what happens in talking with Mike Reid, the
coaching Gordon, I think he's like, you know, I want
my guys to experience the university. They will do it
in a game. It will be absolutely remarkable to see.
We will have a really close eye on what goes
on in Thorndale when Gordon goes on the road and
takes on those Bulldogs.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Yeah, I'm really looking forward to seeing how that one
turns out. I ag that's like, you know, the NFL
used to play exhibition games against Canadian Football League teams
and they would play one half NFL rules and one
half CFL rules. Now how they made that work with
one hundred and ten yard field, I have no idea,
but they used to do that. So you know, when
(20:23):
I first saw that matchupbout thought, what.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Are they gonna do?
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Play eleven man one half at six man the other half?
But I guess it's all eleven man. It'll be interesting
to see.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
Yeah, Well, because Gordon, you can make an argument I
think it's pound the best team in second high school football,
but they're playing a literal different game with different rules
and different measurements, and so.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
How do how do the Longhorns handle that?
Speaker 4 (20:46):
And by the way.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
Not for nothing.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
The longest winning streak in the state is.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
On the line. They won thirty three in a row,
more than anybody else.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
What we have to hope is that Strike a read
if he gets hope and doesn't stop at the ten
yard line thinking he's in the end zone at that point.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
You know, listen, Yeah, I mean, what were we just
talking about earlier about force of habit and unlearning things.
Strike Reed has been stopping at the ten yard line
of an entire career.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Yeah, because at Jerry World, that's the goal line on
an eighty yard field.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
All right, Hey, I appreciate you doing this. Looking forward to.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
The week, all right, take care.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
All right, that's Greg Tapper, editor in chief of Dave
Campbell's Texas Football Magazine. Yeah, it's gonna be one of
the intriguing games of Gordon playing eleven man against Thorndale.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
So we'll see how that works.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
At Gordon had great athletes for six man program, far
and away the best, So how it translates to eleven man,
we'll see.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
All right.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
We have more coming up when we continue on thirteen
under the zone,
And that's always our cue to welcome in our good friend.
And the editor in chief of Dave Campbell's Texas Football
magazine is Greg Temper. And I got to ask you something.
I twice in the last of forty eight hours or
twenty four hours whatever have started to say, manage to
get it?
Speaker 2 (00:19):
And I stop and I go, no, editor in chief,
do you.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Ever do that anymore? Or you are you totally ingrained
in the eic now.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
All the time, all the time. It happens constantly.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
I mean, I was managing editor from July twenty thirteen
until March of.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Twenty twenty five, and so like, I'm not gonna look.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
I can't what is the normal amount of time it
takes me to learn anything, right, let alone unlearn something.
I mean, once it gets in there, it's hard to say.
I mean, I think that you and I I've compared
to you and I similarly that like, there's stuff that
gets stuck in our brain that we just can't unlearn,
can't unknow these things. And I'm sure it happens to
(01:03):
you that somebody will ask you something, especially about you know,
the Texas Longhorns, or about Texas Texas high school football.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
And you'll just spout off be like, oh, yeah, that
wasn't that twenty twelve title game.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
I want to say it was a you know, he
ran for three hundred and fifteen yard or something like that,
and you'll just like kind of shake your own head
and go, how do I know that? Why do I
know that? That's a similar thing to me that I'm
trying to get it out of my brain? And that's
that's proving harder than I thought it would be.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Okay, all right, it makes me feel better.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
All right, So here's something that folks are going to
get have to get used to.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
There's a new sheriff in town.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
At least as it relates to the Dave Campbell's Texas
Football Magazine college Football power Pole, the FBS power Pole
in the state. There's an Aggie team sitting at the top,
number one, with Texas number two.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
About that.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
Yeah, bold of me to take a phone call from Austin,
Texas after we've done this, but yeah, this is a look.
I don't think there's really any any doubt considering what
we've seen the past couple of weeks. You know, obviously Texas,
you know, at sitting at two and one I would
guess that Texas fans would look across the landscape of
(02:15):
what they've been able, what they put together and said
that it is not up to the standard of the
number one team in the state of Texas. Meanwhile, at
teches A and m there's essentially no notes Now now,
you know, going on the road and getting that road
win at Notre Dame, which was at historic one that
has been the road win.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
Against the good team has.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
Been a real bugaboo for that Aggie's program. And to
go and do that is awfully remarkable. That's not to
say it was pretty at all times, and it's not
to say that they're there without their concerns, especially I
would say some newfound concerns defensively. You know, let's let's
remembers the Notre Dame team that really struggled offensively in
(02:55):
their opener and now they they've found they've they've made
their hay against the ag in South Bend. But you know,
a win is a win, and I feel like they
have found a winning formula there with Marcel Reed and
what has turned out to be an exceptional group of receivers. Uh,
They're going to test a lot of a lot of
defenses in the SEC. Now what they got to shore
up things in the on the defensive side, because you
(03:18):
can't you can't go out there and you know, just
ask the text of Tech day year teams of old
whether or not you can you can win every game
by going out there and just slinging it around.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
And just waiting for the ball to come back to you. Uh,
this is They'll have to figure that out.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
But look, I would say that there is understandable uh
jubilation and Aggie land these days, because the Aggies certainly
look the part of a team that that may be
different than the the old eight and four that they're
so they've become unfortunately accustomed to.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Do we find out a little more about Texas Tech
this week playing in Utah?
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Yeah, yeah, we absolutely do.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
Look, if you're again, if you're Tech to Tech, you
essentially can't have any notes about what you've had.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
So far.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
They have been as dominant as against there there statistically
the number two offense in all of all of college
football in total offense six.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Hundred and two yards per game.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
And if you care about style points, they have got
style points out the Wazoo, a sixty point win over
Arkansas playing bloff fifth you know what a four you know,
fifty eight point win, forty eight point win over Kent State,
and then they go in they mollywop Oregon State in
a game that technically did take six hours and thirteen minutes,
(04:37):
but they're you know, they didn't take that long. Now
they get two real tests. One they have to go
on the road, which has been a real challenge for
Joey maguire and company. And two they have to play
an actual, really good team in Utah. This is a
Utah team that is rolling the number sixteen team in
(04:57):
the nation. Has looked really good, and their defense, especially,
this is going to be you know, you could if
you want it to be cynical, you could say, Okay,
Texas Tech is averaging six hundred yards per game, but
they haven't played a defense that can Faulga mirror. Yet
Utah does more than Faulga mirror. They are going to
be really, really exceptional defensively, and that is kind of
a double challenge for Texa Tech. Now here's the thing.
(05:20):
If they beat Utah, you better get on board the
hype train, because you started looking at their schedule.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Where it's at Houston you.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
Know better at Houston team obviously coming off of a
really nice win over Colorado last week, but still a
game that Texa Tech should expect to win. Hold against Kansas.
That's at Arizona State. You know who knows where they are.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Right now, depending on They've been real up and down
in Oklahoma State.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
I mean you start looking out there and you say,
where's the law, where's the game? You're sure they're going
to lose. So this is a real, I think, a
real early turning point here for the Texas Tech football team,
and also just the narrative about Texas Tech moving forward.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Okay, all right, I agree with all of that with you.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Now I would say this when you said style points
out the Wazoo, that's actually North Texas because they had
style points and beating Wazoo fifty nine to ten.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Now, I asked you last week if they won and.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
If Texas State lost Arizona State, would North Texas be
the top G five? And you said you thought maybe,
yet in the rankings still trailing Texas State wasn't It
was not an embarrassing loss by the Bobcats out in
Tempe either.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
No, I thought Texas State acquited themselves fairly well. And
obviously I think that when you take a look at
the power pool right now, Texas State that win over
UPSA is probably the single best win of any of
the teams in the G five. But I'll tell you
what North Texas did last week, wildly, wildly impressive. And
this is an offense that feels like it has hit
(06:47):
its stride. Drew Messimaker making all the right plays, nine touchdowns,
no interceptions, McKenzie McGill, they found a running game they
feel good about and shock of all shots of the
defense looks like a team that that's going to make place.
At the very least. What they are doing is they're
turning the ball over if they're going out there, and
they are getting there, making plays defensively and getting takeaways,
(07:10):
which is something that they just simply were not able
to do last year. And so I think that is
a real step forward for North Texas. You know, a
real interesting test this week going on the road to Army, where,
I mean, who knows what to expect from RBP at
this point that you want to talk about a team
that is entirely, entirely unpredictable with a Week one loss
(07:33):
to Tarleton and then a week two win at Kansas State.
But I will say that this is a an opportunity,
I think for North Texas to really prove that things
are different, that they're a true contender in the American
I was really impressed with what they did welcoming Wazoo
rather rude linked.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
I want to ask you about the two other games
that are kind of intriguing. One is obviously Baylor or
Arizona State, and the other what is the final ever
ever skill it game at least in the foreseeable future
between TCU and SMU.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
Yeah, they're going to do the A and M Texas thing.
You know, They're going to take a break, and then
eventually there's going to be enough kind of clamoring that
this thing has got to get back together and they'll
do it. I mean, Zauri and Kansas just did it too,
you know, they just went their separate ways for about
fifteen years and then came back together for what ended
up being a whale of the ball game between Kansas.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
And West Virginia. West Virginia.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, backyard brawl the same way. This is
a I think for SMU and TCU, this is a
game that both of them need to win for not
just in the micro, but in the macro. Obviously, in
the macro you want to have these bragging rights for
as long as you want. You want to keep the
skillet until people decide to put a side petty differences
(08:47):
and play the game again. But in the micro, I
also think this is a really important.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Game for both kings. You know, TCU, I think kind of.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
Not surprisingly, but I would say rather under the radar.
He was up to a really nice start that went
over at North Carolina, and they fit and they go
and they beat up deblat Christian. If they beat at SMU,
they've got to feel really good heading into conference play,
and I feel like this is a really important game
for them to prove that that Week one win over
North Carolina wasn't a mirage, it wasn't kind of a
(09:17):
Week one kind of storm out of the gates and
surprise team with a new coach that they are back
for real.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
And then for SMU, you know, they they they.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
Have turned in two consecutive rather lackluster performances, one of
them ended in a loss to Baylor at home, and
the other one where they went to Missouri State. I
have a lot of questions, but they go to Missouri
State and they won twenty eight to ten, and the
offense just could not get in gear. They have got
something to prove, I think in this game against TCU
(09:49):
a lot on the line there. I think that's a
really important part. And then for Baylor, this is a team.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Can Baylor kind of.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
Continue the momentum that they started right they're off to
a three and zero start or a two to one start,
that after bouncing back with that loss to Auburn and
the opener, you get a nice winter resting you right now.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
In my mind, I mean, they.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
Eat Stamford last week, But in my mind, I have
one good performance and one poor performance. Which one is
the real Baylor. We will find out a lot more
this week when they welcome in Arizona State, which I
think is a really critical game because I think that
when you take a look at their schedule, it doesn't
exactly lighten up from there. But Arizona State, if they
can get this win, they can at least establish themselves
as an upperfessional on Big twelve.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Team Talking football with Greg Tepperman. No, not the managing
See I just did it again there, Editor in chief
Dave Campbell's Texts, I I did it just because you
were on with us that time. I think the the
e I see the editor in chief of Dave Campbe's
text Football magazine, all right, let's let's jump out high school.
This is kind of a little bit of a goofy question.
(10:48):
But but I am kind of curious because when we
follow teams that are really, really good, we have a
tendency to backshelve them for several weeks. You know what,
check back rids. They're going to blow out teams, and
we've been doing that for years. With Carthage, where are
you with South Lake Carrol right now? I mean they're
number one in the state and they've blown out team
(11:09):
Now finally they're gonna get a little bit of a
test this week playing Ulis Trinity. I think, but where
are you with with Southlake Carrol right now?
Speaker 4 (11:17):
Right now, they get right now three and zero trending.
You know, right now they get incomplete trending towards.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Are really positive grade.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
But right now they just have an incomplete because they've
just been a lot better than the others. Now. I
think last week what they did to Byron Nelson, A
district opener is really really impressive, especially defense simply they
were really really strong.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
In that game.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
But this is their huge test when they take on
Uless Trinity in a matchup of two kind of pedigreed
DFW programs with different identities that are kind of returning
to former glory. UIs Trinity had a couple of lean
for their standards lean years recently, but they are back
(11:57):
in a big way and they're doing the old ULLs
and a new.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Thing they're doing.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
They're doing the thing that they used to pack sixty
thousand people allegedly in the Texas Stadium to do when
they played South Lake Carrol, where it is run the
dang ball with JT. Harris their new running back. They've
got They've got mac Lion Weaver, the coach's kid and
actually Steve Lin Weaver's grandson if you want to feel old,
playing quarterback for them, and they are defense that they're
(12:21):
big and physical and they're mean going up against the
South Lake Carroll team that had looked terrific with quarterback games.
Lowrenda wide receiver Brock Boyd, the wide receiver.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
Committed to Ohio State. And then we mentioned that defense.
This is their big test.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
This is for me the well we'll really find out
if they go out there and they win this game,
and they win it comfortably, then will feel really good
about keeping them number one, at least until they give
us reason to doubt them. The one thing I will
say is that Riley Dodge, I need to confirm this.
I know he's never lost the game as a head
coach at Dragon Stadium. I am fairly certain when he
(12:56):
played at South Lake Carol he never lost the game
at home, which would mean that he's never left that
stadium with a loss.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
I think that's right. I think that's correct.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
I need to so a lot of that.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
You will surely want to do something nobody else has
ever done, literally his playing our coaching career, in order
to take command of that district.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
You make me laughing talking about the thing about the
alleged sixty thousand there.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
You've heard that.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
You've heard that number as I've heard that number before,
and there was no real way to really confirm the
thing because they still held that attendance record. It was
still marked as forty nine nine five three for plain
O PMNG and seventy seven. And there's no no, no, no,
it was. It was sixty one down, but it was
part of what a triple header that day or a
doubleheader that day?
Speaker 3 (13:44):
It was part of a triple header.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
And I will say, I want to say this game
was back in two thousand and six around the There
is video of.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
This online and you can see and I will say.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
This, there are a lot of people in Texas Stadium. Yeah,
I don't know the sixty thousand. There's probably more than
is reported, but I will say that that there's a
lot of people there.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
I think that.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
But that's that's one of those that's one of those
fishing stories, right, It just gets bigger every time you
tell it.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Yeah, all right.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
On the for real meter, we saw Westlake have a
response by beating a task to see the last week
they get Sybil of Steel this week.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
How about that matchup?
Speaker 4 (14:23):
Yeah, I mean, well, first of all, we need to
come home a week after two weeks after driving a
San Benito and a week after driving to Humble, they finally.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Get to stay home and sleep in their.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
Own bed and take on a good civili Steel team,
a highly talented Sibilist steel team that graduated pretty heavily,
but I think has gotten the wheels back on. I
was very impressed last week with kind of the emergence
of the offense and especially the running game for west Lake.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
If they're continuing to.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
Get that in support of Reese Wise, then I think
they're a real contender in sixth A Division two, which
is where it feels like they're headed. There is a
pass of them to go six A Division one. Sixth
Division two steals more likely right now, but I think
that that is a real credit. There's gonna be some people,
and I understand this who are gonna from Astro Smith
that whenever tasks see because tasks the star quarterback, Cardi
(15:11):
and act didn't play, I would just say Cardia and
AAC didn't play defense. And this was a really impressive
Westlake performance. So I don't take anything away from west Lake.
If you want to say give it the task, see
a bit of a mulligan, I'm here for that, But
I'm not taking anything away from Westlake going on the
road and getting a really impressive win.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
All right, As you like to say, the meanest thing
we do to each other every week, I give you
a choice of three games you can transport to one,
but only one of those, So I give you these
and I'm leaving, for the first time in memory or
at least in a while, I'm leaving six A out
of this thing this week. That's why I asked you
about those other two six eight games, because because I'm
(15:51):
not having you choose one, all right, you can have
your choice in five A Division two number two Richmond
Randalls of defending state champ against number nine for Ben Marshall.
You can have out of four A D one Kilgore
ranked third against in four A D two Pleasant Growth.
(16:12):
That's the game I have on Victory plus Friday nights
up in Texas, Canada or or Uno the UNO number
one in four A Division one defending state champion Solana
against number one in three A Division one Franklin.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Which of these is to your liking?
Speaker 4 (16:31):
They're all They're all interesting. I will I'll rule out
the Solana and a Franklin game only because it does
feel like we've seen this movie before. We saw it
last week when Franklin Slam could just not find many
teams that want to play them, and so they've had
to take on teams that are smaller in them. They
played they played Gunner last week.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
They beat Gunner.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
I actually thought Gunner acquitted themselves pretty well but just
kind of got overwhelmed in the second half. By that,
I think Franklin will probably be a similar story, although.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
I do think it's a Franklin team that is that
is kind of surging.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
The Randall and Marshall game is interesting because if you
remember last year, this is the game we kind of
circled as potentially the changing of the guard in five
Day Division two in Houston Popen.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
Marshall long been dominant there.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
Randall went and really ransacked that that Marshall team in
route to a state championship. Do they give the mercy?
But the answer is probably Kilgore and Pleasant Grove. Pleasant
Groves front seven is nasty. They are really really fun
to watch. H The offense, I think is starting to
get his wheels on consistently and that's going to be
dangerous going up against the Killgoard team that just handed
(17:35):
Gilmer their first their worst loss in forty eight years.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
I couldn't believe that.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
It was a shocking result, and by the way, it
has since the Gilmour community into like panic mode. I
have heard nothing for tons of Gilmer fans who are
what is what is going on? All that's to say,
kill Gore has looked spectacular to start the year. That
fronts they're they're really physical, They've got like Engraves their
star wide receiver, and of course they played for a
(18:03):
state championship a year ago. That's the game I'm going
to be keeping an eye on. It's a it's a
fabulous game and I'm excited you're going to be on
the call for it.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Yeah, looking forward to that.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Here's a question for you, Okay, and uh uh, maybe
I'll trot out Salona next week because I've got Solana
and Frisco Panther Creek next week, which should be which
would be a lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
But here's my question for you.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
If Salina handles its business this week and does like
you think, and I think so as well, dispatches Franklin
dropping the lines to one and two, and Lanto handles Gerald,
are you going to have to sit across from Ashley
Pickle proud Lano graduate and tell her that Lanto was
the number one team in the state and three eight
Division one next week.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
I think we're haves to because at that point it
will be a two.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
Loss, you know, Franklin team.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
It's hard to keep it even with two good losses,
so trying to spring with a bit of a baffling
loss in week one, but trying to spring it turned
out to be better than we thought they were. And
then and then obviously this week to Salida. But what
in two teams hard to rank them? Number one would
be four and oh in this i'll play this game
means Gerald Jerald's three. Oh, it's a good team before
a team. If they were going to take care of him,
then then yeah, I think they'd be deserving number ones.
(19:10):
I will say one more thing. I'm actually very glad
you didn't put in the three potential games Gordon and Thorndale.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Okay, so if people.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
Don't know about this, Gordon the reigning one A Division
one state champs two time, which are by the way,
six man football. They're playing Thorndale, which was a playoff team,
an area round playoff team in two A Division one.
That's right, Gordon's gonna put five more guys on the
field and play an eleven man game against a pretty
good Thorndale team. It is going to be absolutely fascinating
(19:43):
to see what happens in talking with Mike Reid, the
coaching Gordon, I think he's like, you know, I want
my guys to experience the university. They will do it
in a game. It will be absolutely remarkable to see.
We will have a really close eye on what goes
on in Thorndale when Gordon goes on the road and
takes on those Bulldogs.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Yeah, I'm really looking forward to seeing how that one
turns out. I ag that's like, you know, the NFL
used to play exhibition games against Canadian Football League teams
and they would play one half NFL rules and one
half CFL rules. Now how they made that work with
one hundred and ten yard field, I have no idea,
but they used to do that. So you know, when
(20:23):
I first saw that matchupbout thought, what.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Are they gonna do?
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Play eleven man one half at six man the other half?
But I guess it's all eleven man. It'll be interesting
to see.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
Yeah, Well, because Gordon, you can make an argument I
think it's pound the best team in second high school football,
but they're playing a literal different game with different rules
and different measurements, and so.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
How do how do the Longhorns handle that?
Speaker 4 (20:46):
And by the way.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
Not for nothing.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
The longest winning streak in the state is.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
On the line. They won thirty three in a row,
more than anybody else.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
What we have to hope is that Strike a read
if he gets hope and doesn't stop at the ten
yard line thinking he's in the end zone at that point.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
You know, listen, Yeah, I mean, what were we just
talking about earlier about force of habit and unlearning things.
Strike Reed has been stopping at the ten yard line
of an entire career.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Yeah, because at Jerry World, that's the goal line on
an eighty yard field.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
All right, Hey, I appreciate you doing this. Looking forward to.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
The week, all right, take care.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
All right, that's Greg Tapper, editor in chief of Dave
Campbell's Texas Football Magazine. Yeah, it's gonna be one of
the intriguing games of Gordon playing eleven man against Thorndale.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
So we'll see how that works.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
At Gordon had great athletes for six man program, far
and away the best, So how it translates to eleven man,
we'll see.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
All right.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
We have more coming up when we continue on thirteen
under the zone,
Popular Podcasts
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!
Dateline NBC
Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com
What Are We Even Doing? with Kyle MacLachlan
Join award-winning actor and social media madman Kyle MacLachlan on “What Are We Even Doing,” where he sits down with Millennial and Gen Z actors, musicians, artists, and content creators to share stories about the entertainment industry past, present, and future. Kyle and his guests will talk shop, compare notes on life, and generally be weird together. In a good way. Their conversations will resonate with listeners of any age whose interests lie in television & film, music, art, or pop culture.