August 12, 2024 • 12 mins
Craig and Cameron open the final hour of Monday's show with a look at the NFL preseason game between the Dallas Cowboys and the Los Angeles Rams. Of course it turns into a conversation about Cameron's absentee fandom of America's team.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Third and final hour of the program here on Sports
Radio AM thirteen hunderd The Zone. Greg Way, alongside the
producer Cameron Parker, Glad to have you with us on
this Monday, and I hope things are going well to
you and for you. We've gone through the first couple
hours of the program and we'll revisit some topics. Long
(00:21):
one football, The AP Top twenty five college preseason poll
is out. The Olympics still have not solved the issue
about Jordan Chiles and that bronze medal and the floor
exercise as to who really and truly gets it since
both sides have had their say now and the Romanian
side said they didn't lodge the appeal inside the Americans
(00:43):
of yes we did.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
We've got video evidence of it that shows that it was.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Lodged forty seven seconds into after it happened. You've got
sixty seconds to do it, so anyway, that still has
to be solved. Then it was the NFL preseason which
began over the weekend. Cameron did watch some of the
Rams Cowboys game, and have you given any other thought
(01:11):
to maybe just rolling back on it and nope, you know,
when the regular season starts, watching so you're planning to
kind of like watch during the preseason.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
I mean, I'm watching for the critsific players. I want
to see how Overshown looks, guiding Lance, you know, things
of that nature. But once the season starts, I mean,
the team.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Start to say be that as it may. You are
watching the games. I mean, I'm not like living and
dying with each play. I've got locked in like I've
been in like I have been in years past with
Cowboys regular season games. These preseason games are meaningless in
terms of win or loss.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
But correct players.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Look, I mean, once Mike McCarthy gets fired after the season,
and depending on if Jerry just promotes Mike Simmer and
makes a an educated higher you know, Tyler Guidon and
Trey Lance and Overshown will be on next year's team,
and you know, we'll we'll circle back and see where
we are. If I'll continue to be uh an, yeah,
(02:09):
an apathetic absentee Cowboys fan, I go from there. But
I mean, this season it's going to be a disaster
for Dallas.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
You're not completely apathetic if you're watching some of the preseason,
even if it's only to watch individual development of certain players.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Well, again, you know, I'm looking towards the future.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Yeah right, okay, okay, so you know, so in other words,
you're going to take the perspective, You're gonna take the
Jimmy Garoppolo perspective. Jimmy excuse me, Jimmy Garoppolo for folks
who don't know, is now the backup quarterback to Matthew
(02:46):
Stafford for the Rams. Ah But Jimmy Garoppolo will not
play in the first two games. He's under suspension for
a ped It was a medication and prescribed by a doctor,
but he didn't get it cleared with the NFL's protocol people,
(03:09):
so he has to sit out the first two games,
but he will take part in the preseason at some
point now. Stetson Bennett unfortunately played the entire game yesterday
for the Rams. Stetson Bennet and his four interceptions and
could well have been five but for the penalty that
nullified that. It did allow minute to lead the game
winning drive. I'll give him that, And there were times
(03:31):
where he made some good throws and things. He just
made some poor decisions on the four interceptions, and really
the one that would have been the fifth, he threw
some right to Navy Blue Jerseys Cowboys. Cowboys were in
the road Navy Blues yesterday. But Jimmy Garoppolo is expected
(03:52):
to play some in the preseason as that draws closer.
Maybe the last game of the preseason when the Rent
Rams played the Texans, by the way in Houston. That
last game, I think the Rams play the Chargers this week,
Cowboys play the Raiders.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Is that right? This week? I think so? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Okay, So so Garoppolo is supposed to play like maybe
toward the tail end of the preseason, but then he's
not going to play in the first two games. So
Stetson Bennett is going to be the backup to Matthew Stafford.
News I hope that Stafford stays healthy, which has been
an issue in the past. When he came back healthy
(04:29):
last year.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Was a big reason why the Rams made their big
push to get to the playoffs last year. But the
Rams have to open where their season ended last year.
They have to play Detroit on Sunday night, the first
weekend of the season. So in other words, you're taking
the Garoppolo approach. You'll be involved and engaged in the preseason,
but not in the regular season or at leased. In
Garoppolo's case, the first two weeks, you're vowing to take
(04:51):
it the entire Hey, let me ask you this that
this just came to me. Let's say the season isn't
the disa you think it's going to be for the Cowboys,
and they make the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
You can watch them in the playoffs if it's the
NFC title game.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
So your band would go through a wild card and
or divisional playoff game. They if let's say the Eagles
win the East and the Cowboys are a wildcard and
they go to Green Bay, or they go to Los Angeles,
or they go to Tampa, or they go to New Orleans,
or they go to San Francisco, to go to someplace.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
And they win.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Then they play in the divisional round and they go
to Green Bay, or they go to Tampa, or they
go to the Minnesota, or they go to Detroit, or
they go to someplace like that or San Francisco and
they win.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Now they're in the NFC Championship.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Then at that point you're saying, if they're in the
NFL's version of the Final Four, you'll lift the ban
and watch them.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Is that what you're saying?
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Sure, but that would require Dallas winning a playoff game, right,
and then possibly winning two Yeah, which hasn't happened since
nineteen ninety five to five.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Yes, it's just not gonna happen. Correct, Okay, just all right,
all right, you're that comfortable.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Oh, I'm positive because I've every year, I've gone through
the same song and dance, convincing myself this is the year,
this is different. Whether it's Jason Garrett or Mike McCarthy
or Tony Romo or Dak Prescott, whoever, whatever team they're facing,
in every year they've continued to let me down, especially
last season when you're at home against the Green Bay
team you should have beat and you give up what
(06:27):
like forty points in the first half or something ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Now, rot done, I'm done.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
I think I've stumbled onto your problem. And it's because,
take it from somebody who went through a lot of
the same stuff you did as a Rams fan. The
expectations are set too high, and I know you're supposed
to expect things, and of course we hear expect because
of what Jerry says. Yeah, okay, but since when do
(06:53):
we listen to anything Jerry says? You know, he's the owner,
he's gonna say that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
I'm all in. He's going to say those kinds of
things you have to.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
And I think you've taken a dispassionate look at the
football team.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Now.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
I don't think it's the disaster you you think that
it may well turn out to be. But they're definitely
not the best.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Team in the NFC East, and that they could be
though with a with a good GM and good coaching,
they could be.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
I'm saying, given what they have.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Listen, take it from a person who had a root
for a football team who is owned by a former
chorus girl who knew who was the starstruck and you
wanted to keep signing Joe Namath and Bert Jones after
and then a second time with Vince Ferragamo after all
of those quarterbacks were washed up. You know, it was
(07:48):
kind of like how Jerry could be enamored with some
things like that. I went through a lot of those painful,
frustrating years in the nineties, and then even after the
Rams had the great run with Kurt Warner and all
that kind of stuff, then they'll off again when those
guys got old or injured or whatever. And I had
to go back through some disappointing times and all that
sort of stuff. But it helps if you don't set
(08:08):
the bar too high, you know.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
So you want me to just accept the mediocrity of
the Cowboys and just watch them knowing because the only
reason why we watch sports is because want our team
to win the championship.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Yes, it's your team, no matter how they're constructed, right,
it's your team. So aren't we as fans then charged
with the responsibility of rooting for them? And if you
say no, that's okay, that's okay. But how engaged is
a fan are you? If you clock out? That's my question.
(08:44):
I'm not saying it's right or wrong. I'm just saying
it's a it's an exploratory question. How how engaged should
you be if it And it'd be different if you
were a season ticket older too, because I can understand that.
And we've seen reports and heard a lot of stuff
about how Cowboy fans are staying away and from Oxnart,
haven't been going, haven't been showing up in the large
numbers that they have in the past. So if you
(09:07):
were a member of the ticket buying public and buying
the gear and all that other kind of stuff. I'm
a little more in tune with that because that's people
who've invested money as well. We're just talking about whether money,
We're just talking about whether you turn on your television
and watch when's the last time you went to a
game at and D Jerry word?
Speaker 3 (09:26):
But I've paid for you know, YouTube TV, so I could,
you know, watch them play. I've bought Cowboys gear. I've
you know, invested time into watching it. Four hours a
day watching the Cowboys. The whole reason why I'm doing this,
and you know, most of it start has a bit
now it's just become realists. Because Jerry Jones has been
the owner in the de facto GM ever since I
(09:47):
was born. They not won a championship at nine ten
eighty five, and at a certain point you would think
he would realize that, Okay, I'm the problem here. There's
a reason why the Dallas Cowboys have not been to
an NFC title game. But it's not because of injury luck,
it's not because of conspiracy theories. It's because the method
that Jerry Jones has used to run this football team
(10:08):
just does not work, and he's refusing the change. He's
refusing to adapt. And so what I'm going to do is,
instead of just wasting my time rooting for an organization
that's not going anywhere, I'm going to enjoy my Sundays.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
I think that's fine. I'm still gonna watch NFL football.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
But I'm not going to devote any more time into
tricking myself the things the Cowboys are different when every
season has ended the exact same way since nineteen ninety six.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Okay seven Well said, I no, I get it, I understand.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
I guess.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
I was just trying to ascertain your level of fandom.
And I'm not saying you're not a good fan or
this or that. I'm not saying that by any stretch.
What I'm saying is I'm just trying to see the
level of the fanatic part of it, of the fan,
because as we know, there's some people that will go
and pay the ticket prices and they'll show up no
matter how bad the football team is, and they and
(11:01):
they do that in places like Buffalo, and you know
in some other places they would do the Green Bay
if they were really bad. Cleveland is another example that
Baseball Cubs fans.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
And I wouldn't TuS for myself as a Dallas Cowboy fanatic.
I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't do that for any
of mine.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Even though it's been your team since birth, even though
your middle name is Dallas.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
After the team. Well, remember, I grew up a Patriots fan,
so I keep forgetting that you were a Patriots fan
for a while, weren't. The only only team I've really
stuck with since I was born is Texas, and that's
a different discussion. No matter, no matter what happened, You're
a lever in Orange. I'm in alumni. I don't care what.
They could never win a football again the rest of
the one hundred years, the rest of my life, I'm
still going to support in attend evers gonna give us
(11:44):
different Cowboys.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Ye, Well, because they're professionals.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
I get Jerry Jones has not done anything for me
except for giving me a lot of trauma, Okay, and
some good quotes. We can't deny that, Yes, absolutely all right.
We've got more coming up here. Old sports radio. You
have thirteen under the Zone and the iHeartRadio app.
Third and final hour of the program here on Sports
Radio AM thirteen hunderd The Zone. Greg Way, alongside the
producer Cameron Parker, Glad to have you with us on
this Monday, and I hope things are going well to
you and for you. We've gone through the first couple
hours of the program and we'll revisit some topics. Long
(00:21):
one football, The AP Top twenty five college preseason poll
is out. The Olympics still have not solved the issue
about Jordan Chiles and that bronze medal and the floor
exercise as to who really and truly gets it since
both sides have had their say now and the Romanian
side said they didn't lodge the appeal inside the Americans
(00:43):
of yes we did.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
We've got video evidence of it that shows that it was.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Lodged forty seven seconds into after it happened. You've got
sixty seconds to do it, so anyway, that still has
to be solved. Then it was the NFL preseason which
began over the weekend. Cameron did watch some of the
Rams Cowboys game, and have you given any other thought
(01:11):
to maybe just rolling back on it and nope, you know,
when the regular season starts, watching so you're planning to
kind of like watch during the preseason.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
I mean, I'm watching for the critsific players. I want
to see how Overshown looks, guiding Lance, you know, things
of that nature. But once the season starts, I mean,
the team.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Start to say be that as it may. You are
watching the games. I mean, I'm not like living and
dying with each play. I've got locked in like I've
been in like I have been in years past with
Cowboys regular season games. These preseason games are meaningless in
terms of win or loss.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
But correct players.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Look, I mean, once Mike McCarthy gets fired after the season,
and depending on if Jerry just promotes Mike Simmer and
makes a an educated higher you know, Tyler Guidon and
Trey Lance and Overshown will be on next year's team,
and you know, we'll we'll circle back and see where
we are. If I'll continue to be uh an, yeah,
(02:09):
an apathetic absentee Cowboys fan, I go from there. But
I mean, this season it's going to be a disaster
for Dallas.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
You're not completely apathetic if you're watching some of the preseason,
even if it's only to watch individual development of certain players.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Well, again, you know, I'm looking towards the future.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Yeah right, okay, okay, so you know, so in other words,
you're going to take the perspective, You're gonna take the
Jimmy Garoppolo perspective. Jimmy excuse me, Jimmy Garoppolo for folks
who don't know, is now the backup quarterback to Matthew
(02:46):
Stafford for the Rams. Ah But Jimmy Garoppolo will not
play in the first two games. He's under suspension for
a ped It was a medication and prescribed by a doctor,
but he didn't get it cleared with the NFL's protocol people,
(03:09):
so he has to sit out the first two games,
but he will take part in the preseason at some
point now. Stetson Bennett unfortunately played the entire game yesterday
for the Rams. Stetson Bennet and his four interceptions and
could well have been five but for the penalty that
nullified that. It did allow minute to lead the game
winning drive. I'll give him that, And there were times
(03:31):
where he made some good throws and things. He just
made some poor decisions on the four interceptions, and really
the one that would have been the fifth, he threw
some right to Navy Blue Jerseys Cowboys. Cowboys were in
the road Navy Blues yesterday. But Jimmy Garoppolo is expected
(03:52):
to play some in the preseason as that draws closer.
Maybe the last game of the preseason when the Rent
Rams played the Texans, by the way in Houston. That
last game, I think the Rams play the Chargers this week,
Cowboys play the Raiders.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Is that right? This week? I think so? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Okay, So so Garoppolo is supposed to play like maybe
toward the tail end of the preseason, but then he's
not going to play in the first two games. So
Stetson Bennett is going to be the backup to Matthew Stafford.
News I hope that Stafford stays healthy, which has been
an issue in the past. When he came back healthy
(04:29):
last year.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Was a big reason why the Rams made their big
push to get to the playoffs last year. But the
Rams have to open where their season ended last year.
They have to play Detroit on Sunday night, the first
weekend of the season. So in other words, you're taking
the Garoppolo approach. You'll be involved and engaged in the preseason,
but not in the regular season or at leased. In
Garoppolo's case, the first two weeks, you're vowing to take
(04:51):
it the entire Hey, let me ask you this that
this just came to me. Let's say the season isn't
the disa you think it's going to be for the Cowboys,
and they make the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
You can watch them in the playoffs if it's the
NFC title game.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
So your band would go through a wild card and
or divisional playoff game. They if let's say the Eagles
win the East and the Cowboys are a wildcard and
they go to Green Bay, or they go to Los Angeles,
or they go to Tampa, or they go to New Orleans,
or they go to San Francisco, to go to someplace.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
And they win.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Then they play in the divisional round and they go
to Green Bay, or they go to Tampa, or they
go to the Minnesota, or they go to Detroit, or
they go to someplace like that or San Francisco and
they win.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Now they're in the NFC Championship.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Then at that point you're saying, if they're in the
NFL's version of the Final Four, you'll lift the ban
and watch them.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Is that what you're saying?
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Sure, but that would require Dallas winning a playoff game, right,
and then possibly winning two Yeah, which hasn't happened since
nineteen ninety five to five.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Yes, it's just not gonna happen. Correct, Okay, just all right,
all right, you're that comfortable.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Oh, I'm positive because I've every year, I've gone through
the same song and dance, convincing myself this is the year,
this is different. Whether it's Jason Garrett or Mike McCarthy
or Tony Romo or Dak Prescott, whoever, whatever team they're facing,
in every year they've continued to let me down, especially
last season when you're at home against the Green Bay
team you should have beat and you give up what
(06:27):
like forty points in the first half or something ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Now, rot done, I'm done.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
I think I've stumbled onto your problem. And it's because,
take it from somebody who went through a lot of
the same stuff you did as a Rams fan. The
expectations are set too high, and I know you're supposed
to expect things, and of course we hear expect because
of what Jerry says. Yeah, okay, but since when do
(06:53):
we listen to anything Jerry says? You know, he's the owner,
he's gonna say that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
I'm all in. He's going to say those kinds of
things you have to.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
And I think you've taken a dispassionate look at the
football team.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Now.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
I don't think it's the disaster you you think that
it may well turn out to be. But they're definitely
not the best.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Team in the NFC East, and that they could be
though with a with a good GM and good coaching,
they could be.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
I'm saying, given what they have.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Listen, take it from a person who had a root
for a football team who is owned by a former
chorus girl who knew who was the starstruck and you
wanted to keep signing Joe Namath and Bert Jones after
and then a second time with Vince Ferragamo after all
of those quarterbacks were washed up. You know, it was
(07:48):
kind of like how Jerry could be enamored with some
things like that. I went through a lot of those painful,
frustrating years in the nineties, and then even after the
Rams had the great run with Kurt Warner and all
that kind of stuff, then they'll off again when those
guys got old or injured or whatever. And I had
to go back through some disappointing times and all that
sort of stuff. But it helps if you don't set
(08:08):
the bar too high, you know.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
So you want me to just accept the mediocrity of
the Cowboys and just watch them knowing because the only
reason why we watch sports is because want our team
to win the championship.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Yes, it's your team, no matter how they're constructed, right,
it's your team. So aren't we as fans then charged
with the responsibility of rooting for them? And if you
say no, that's okay, that's okay. But how engaged is
a fan are you? If you clock out? That's my question.
(08:44):
I'm not saying it's right or wrong. I'm just saying
it's a it's an exploratory question. How how engaged should
you be if it And it'd be different if you
were a season ticket older too, because I can understand that.
And we've seen reports and heard a lot of stuff
about how Cowboy fans are staying away and from Oxnart,
haven't been going, haven't been showing up in the large
numbers that they have in the past. So if you
(09:07):
were a member of the ticket buying public and buying
the gear and all that other kind of stuff. I'm
a little more in tune with that because that's people
who've invested money as well. We're just talking about whether money,
We're just talking about whether you turn on your television
and watch when's the last time you went to a
game at and D Jerry word?
Speaker 3 (09:26):
But I've paid for you know, YouTube TV, so I could,
you know, watch them play. I've bought Cowboys gear. I've
you know, invested time into watching it. Four hours a
day watching the Cowboys. The whole reason why I'm doing this,
and you know, most of it start has a bit
now it's just become realists. Because Jerry Jones has been
the owner in the de facto GM ever since I
(09:47):
was born. They not won a championship at nine ten
eighty five, and at a certain point you would think
he would realize that, Okay, I'm the problem here. There's
a reason why the Dallas Cowboys have not been to
an NFC title game. But it's not because of injury luck,
it's not because of conspiracy theories. It's because the method
that Jerry Jones has used to run this football team
(10:08):
just does not work, and he's refusing the change. He's
refusing to adapt. And so what I'm going to do is,
instead of just wasting my time rooting for an organization
that's not going anywhere, I'm going to enjoy my Sundays.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
I think that's fine. I'm still gonna watch NFL football.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
But I'm not going to devote any more time into
tricking myself the things the Cowboys are different when every
season has ended the exact same way since nineteen ninety six.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Okay seven Well said, I no, I get it, I understand.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
I guess.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
I was just trying to ascertain your level of fandom.
And I'm not saying you're not a good fan or
this or that. I'm not saying that by any stretch.
What I'm saying is I'm just trying to see the
level of the fanatic part of it, of the fan,
because as we know, there's some people that will go
and pay the ticket prices and they'll show up no
matter how bad the football team is, and they and
(11:01):
they do that in places like Buffalo, and you know
in some other places they would do the Green Bay
if they were really bad. Cleveland is another example that
Baseball Cubs fans.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
And I wouldn't TuS for myself as a Dallas Cowboy fanatic.
I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't do that for any
of mine.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Even though it's been your team since birth, even though
your middle name is Dallas.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
After the team. Well, remember, I grew up a Patriots fan,
so I keep forgetting that you were a Patriots fan
for a while, weren't. The only only team I've really
stuck with since I was born is Texas, and that's
a different discussion. No matter, no matter what happened, You're
a lever in Orange. I'm in alumni. I don't care what.
They could never win a football again the rest of
the one hundred years, the rest of my life, I'm
still going to support in attend evers gonna give us
(11:44):
different Cowboys.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Ye, Well, because they're professionals.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
I get Jerry Jones has not done anything for me
except for giving me a lot of trauma, Okay, and
some good quotes. We can't deny that, Yes, absolutely all right.
We've got more coming up here. Old sports radio. You
have thirteen under the Zone and the iHeartRadio app.
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