CFB Coaching Carousel, HSFB Playoff Push, World Series Tilts Back to Toronto

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
How about this.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
We are almost to the weekend, getting close anyway, and
so that means Thursday means there's plenty on tap for
today's show. Good afternoon, everybody, Welcome to the program here
on Sports Radio AM thirteen hundred the Zone and where
you can always also listen to us for free on
the iHeartRadio app. My name is Craig Way. Thank you
very much for joining us this afternoon. We're with you

(00:24):
up until five o'clock and then at seven o'clock a reminder,
this week's edition of Longhorn Weekly with Coach Sark comes
your way. We record the program on Wednesday evenings over
on the UT campus and then it airs Thursday nights
at seven E three airs on Friday Friday evenings at
seven if you're unable to catch the Thursday.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
Airing of it. And a fun show.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
We have linebackers coach co defensive coordinator Johnny Nansen. What
a job he's done with that linebacking corps. And also
Jordan Shipley, one of the all time long worn heroes,
the last guy before Ryan Niblett, the last guy to
return two punts for a touchdown in a single season.
Shipley did that back in two thousand and nine, the
year the Long Ones went all the way to the

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National Championship the BCS National Title Game before falling to Alabama,
and Chipley had two punt returns for touchdowns that season.
So we'll visit with Jordan tonight on the program as well.
Producer of the program is Jay Carman. How's your day going?

Speaker 3 (01:23):
Pretty good?

Speaker 2 (01:23):
Yeah, it feels like DC out there today, like Washington, DC.

Speaker 3 (01:29):
Yeah, a little colder.

Speaker 1 (01:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
Is this a little more like climatetologically speaking, more inside
the Beltway?

Speaker 1 (01:37):
What you feel this time of year?

Speaker 4 (01:38):
Yeah, Yeah, it's a little bit, a little bit of
a sharp change from what we saw byt a week ago.

Speaker 3 (01:43):
That was fast.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
I saw a.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
I saw a crawl on the bottom of it said
the National was getting close to naming their new field manager.

Speaker 3 (01:53):
Then they did name their new field manager.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
That's how close they were.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
Yeah, and I heard it, saw it this morning as
it was close, and then I got caught caught up
in media Zoom's first one for Steve sar Keys and
then one for Sean Miller.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
So they have a new manager.

Speaker 4 (02:06):
Blake Viewterra is going to be the youngest manager in
fifty years in the Big Leagues, thirty three year old
director of player development from the Rays. Some folks thought
he was going to be a front office candidate, but
many saw him as a future manager. Paul Taboni, youngest
GM now in Major League Baseball, taps the youngest manager.

Speaker 3 (02:25):
So youth movement in Washington.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
Yeah, you to be served. We'll see how that plays out. Hey,
coming up in a few minutes, Roger Wallace, Sports director
k x A, and of course NBC thirty six here
in Austin and my broadcast partner and Long Worn Football
will join us. We'll talk some long worn football clearly
as they get ready for the Vanderbilt Commodores. And Roger
and Keith Warlan will call a very important high school

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football game tonight in the next to last week of
the regular season in twenty five six a huddo at
Vista Ridge. And so we'll visit with Roger about that
later on in the program. Obviously, we'll have him conceivable
this hour. In the three o'clock hour, we'll hear from

(03:09):
Sean Miller, the brand new men's basketball coach University of
Texas Longhorns open the season next Tuesday in Charlotte against
Duke and so we'll hear from Sean Miller coming up
at the three o'clock hour. In the four o'clock hour,
long wrn's head coach Steve Sarkisian, we'll hear from Sark
the update of the final media weekly opportunity that is

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afforded the media, the media Zoom. So we'll hear from
Sark coming up in the four o'clock hour. But we
begin with baseball, where now the Toronto Blue Jays are
one went away from winning their first World Series in
thirty two years since nineteen ninety three, and they wasted
no time getting off to a good start, as we
did this yesterday. This is fun to hear this audio

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because this is father and son Dan Shulman. You've heard
him a lot on ESPN, but he's doing the telecast
on Sportsnet in Toronto and his son Ben Shulman is
the play by play voice on radio for the Blue Jays.
So the Jays wasted no time in getting off to
an excellent start. David Schneider and Vladimir Guerrero Junior back

(04:18):
to back home runs to open the ball game. First,
the call from the Elder Statesman, Dan Shulman.

Speaker 5 (04:26):
Game five is underway with a fly ball to d
Cleft done the first pitch of the ball game, and
David Schnyder has hit it out.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
What a starts, Okay, So that was the runt. Two
pitches later with Vlad Junior up.

Speaker 6 (04:48):
This happened here and the Blue Jay fans making a
ton of noise, and.

Speaker 1 (04:52):
Now Calero rips one to d Clift, p.

Speaker 7 (04:55):
It's gone, and two.

Speaker 5 (04:58):
Batters in up two to that thing. My oh my,
what a start for the Blue Jays here tonight.

Speaker 1 (05:05):
It was all of that, all right.

Speaker 2 (05:07):
So that's Dan Shulman on Sportsnet, the television network in Canada.
Now here's his son Ben Schulman calling the two home
runs on Blue Jays Radio.

Speaker 6 (05:19):
Snell into the Liners the first pitch of Game five
of the World Series, and it's in high left field
and deep callback at the track, leaps at the wall.

Speaker 7 (05:28):
And that ball it's gone.

Speaker 5 (05:32):
Our first pitch homer for David Schneider.

Speaker 6 (05:36):
And the Blue Jays take the.

Speaker 1 (05:38):
Lead of the first.

Speaker 7 (05:40):
Welcome to Game five.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
And the one Lottie rocks the.

Speaker 6 (05:44):
Ball left field and deep back.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
To the wall.

Speaker 8 (05:47):
It is good again.

Speaker 1 (05:50):
Back to back Blass.

Speaker 6 (05:51):
In the first and in three pitches the Blue Jays
leap to nothing.

Speaker 1 (05:57):
What in the world are we watching right now?

Speaker 2 (06:00):
They were watching was only getting started because that was
the offense. And then trey Is Savage struck out twelve
batters and in the game, absolutely dominant in the game
full the Blue Jays who wind up winning it by
a score of six to one. So a tremendous effort

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by trey Ya Savage, who then you know, just had
all the support and the adulation from his teammates with
what he did and also from his manager. But before
we get to that, there was David Schneider, the guy
who really got it off and going with that first
pitch home run.

Speaker 8 (06:41):
He has a really good change up as Austi's his curveball,
his slider, so he has a lot of good pitches. Obviously,
his fastball is ninety six ninety eight, so you can't
really take that for granted as well.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
But you know, George kind.

Speaker 8 (06:54):
Of always preaches always be ready for the fastball first
pisch lead off the game, and George has done it
for numerous years, and you know, I got to take
some advice when I can get it, And yeah, sitting
fastball was up on his zone. I didn't really think
I got it, but you know, maybe playoff baseball, they're
a little bit juice.

Speaker 1 (07:09):
Well, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
George, of course, being George Bringer, who I think will
be back for Game six. He was available for pinch
hit duties if needed last night, so I think he'll
be back for Game six.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
All right.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
So John Schneider, the manager, talked about this historic outing
for tray You Savage, Uh, he was pretty good.

Speaker 9 (07:32):
Historic stuff, you know what I mean when you talk
about that stage and his numbers, getting ahead of a
lot of hitters, tons of swinging miss you know, it's
it's one thing to be in the zone and it's
another thing to be in the zone and get some
swinging miss. So slider and split were electric. You know,

(07:52):
I said it before the game. It's it's a different
picture when he has his stuff. You know, Game one
didn't have a feel for his splits, so kind of
blown away at what he did.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
As many were, including his Savage himself, talking about his journey. Remember,
he started the season in Class A ball in Jupiter, Florida.
Then he went to High then he went to Double A,
then he went to Triple A, then to the bigs.
Now in the World Series with a rookie record twelve
strikeouts scattered three hits over seven innings to get the win.

Speaker 10 (08:24):
It's a crazy world, crazy world. Hollywood couldn't have made
it this good. So just being a part of this,
I'm just very blessed.

Speaker 1 (08:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
So now the Jays are one went away and they're
going back home with a three games to two series lead.
A game six tomorrow night Toronto and Los Angeles, and
the Blue Jays will.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
Try to wrap it up. The Dodgers try to stay alive.

Speaker 2 (08:47):
They do have Yoshinoba Yamamoto going to the mountain tomorrow night.
If the Dodgers win, there will be a seventh and
final game on Saturday night. All Right, we'll hear more
on this throughout the course of the program afternoon, but
up next we talk to football with Roger Wallace here
on Sports Radio AM thirteen under the Zone in the
iHeartRadio app Here on a Thursday afternoon on Sports Radio

(09:14):
AM thirteen hundred of the Zone on Thursdays, we take
the opportunity to talk football with Roger Wallas, my broadcast
partner on long worn Football Broadcast and of course sports
director at KXAM, where they do their high school football
telecast on Thursday nights on KBVO, which you can see

(09:37):
tonight on KBVO channel fifty one. As Roger joins us down,
I'm completely throwing you a curveball on this only because
it's fresh in my mind last night after watching the
World Series game. Of course, you know me a Dodger fan,
so I'm all out of sorts, so I'm just flipping
around the channel, and then I remembered that Austin FC
was in game one of its playoff series with LAFC,

(09:58):
So I turned it on and watched the second half
of that, and I just had a total heartbreaking night
all the way around, because that was kind of tough
for SC last night, giving up that late Lake goal
there for l a f C to win.

Speaker 3 (10:17):
Okay't quite here yout thim at Roger.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
Uh, Okay, we we might have.

Speaker 1 (10:25):
A mute bender or table.

Speaker 2 (10:26):
Maybe it may just have to give Roger call if
it doesn't pop up there on the phone. So I'll
tell you what, Roger, We'll try to reconnect with you
on the phone on this. But it was it was
a tough, narrow two to one defeat, and that was
after FC had fallen behind one deal close first half,

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kind of some bad luck for the Verdium Black Ryan
Hollingshead played a low pass across the six yard box
and deflected in off Brandon Heinzeich and then Austin responded
well at a halftime John Gallagher, uh equalized it. But
l A f C getting that lead, they okay, so
rogers with us now. Uh, like I said, just it

(11:09):
was a bad, bad luck, bad night for me all around,
but it was. It was certainly some ill misfortune for
FC last night.

Speaker 11 (11:18):
Yeah, it's tough.

Speaker 12 (11:18):
I mean, last last team to play in the playoffs.
They've been so anxious to get this going, had success
in their two regular season matches with with l A
f C. And then you know, it seems like about
every other goal you're wondering was there off sides or not?

Speaker 11 (11:33):
But belongs a goal.

Speaker 12 (11:34):
Obviously Austin f C probably thought he was off sides,
but regardless.

Speaker 2 (11:38):
Uh.

Speaker 12 (11:38):
Yeah, now they've got to come home and at least
it's a you know, the format changed for years ago
where they.

Speaker 11 (11:43):
Get another shot two out of three series.

Speaker 12 (11:45):
So Sunday night, either the season comes to an end
or or they go back to Los Angeles next.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
Week exactly in uh, the you know the fact that
I thought it was a nice response from FC when
they got down one nil on the on that unfortunate
goal which definitely could have had offside call, and there
was a lot of conversation about it, and then on
the second one it's well, so it's it's been kind
of interesting to see that. But you pointed out, you know,

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FC's done well against LAFC last tear match, so I'm
sure this isn't a mental thing or a confidence thing
for them.

Speaker 11 (12:19):
Well, I think they're confident.

Speaker 12 (12:20):
I think the way the season's gone just because they've
had a battle through so many different things, and you know,
the US Open Cup run was great. They got a
chance to play for a trophy, but it kind of
took its toll on the front end and on the
back end because.

Speaker 11 (12:35):
Of the way they had to manage the roster.

Speaker 12 (12:36):
And then you know, I mean go back to losing
their leading score Brandon Vasquez in July, and owen Wolf
has emerged. Obviously Galler got the goal last night, but
I think regardless of what happens Sunday night, it's been
quite a first year for a coach that people weren't
sure if that was the right move to get Nico
Svez and then he had to kind of work with

(12:57):
a patchwork roster as well. So I would say moving
forward regardless, as we now year five of the MLS,
you kind of learned that these rosters can can get
overhauled pretty quickly. It seems like they have a good
base moving forward.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
No doubt about it. All right, let's jump to the
American football. So now I say that and it's a
combination of American football and Australian rules football, because that
was one of the fascinating things that came out of
the Sark or rather the Clark Lee SEC teleconference yesterday

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was the fact that.

Speaker 1 (13:38):
The Gold Coast Suns team from Queensland.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
Australia watched that Netflix series The Enny Giving Saturday following
the SEC teams and saw the shock the world thing
of Vanderbilt beating Alabama and their head coach so taken
by Damian Hardwick, he and his assistants fly twenty two hours.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
It's been two days with.

Speaker 2 (14:01):
The commodores this week to say how do you guys
do it? That sort of thing, But it kind of
reflects an overall national fascination about this program and how
quickly Clark Lee has turned this group around, doesn't it?

Speaker 11 (14:14):
Yeah, it really does.

Speaker 12 (14:15):
And I may have told this before, but I was
I was working in Kansas when Bill Snyder did what
he did at Kansas State, and at the time that
was the greatest build people would say of all time,
from Sports Illustrated calling them the worst team in college
football to being a constant contender, and Vanderbilt maybe even
more so because what we thought might be a you know,

(14:36):
limited resources, a school that maybe didn't have the fan
base or the resources for football.

Speaker 11 (14:43):
We know they have resources.

Speaker 12 (14:45):
And then being in the SEC you combine all that
is it is amazing what they've done. And I think
it's too simple, and I fall into this trap to think, oh,
they got Diego Pavia, they got this pied piper and
success followed. Do that in bad basketball a little bit
more than you can do it with one player in football.

Speaker 1 (15:03):
Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
And and UH had a good conversation about him last night,
UH with Sark when we were doing the show, and
he said, he said, I want I want to make
sure that I'm clear on this. He's he's a very
talented football player. He he does some really well skilled things,
especially if you're not locking him down. That said, his

(15:27):
best talent is his attitude and his leadership in getting
everybody to believe that they're that that they're going to
win every game. Andrew Ali Gretta, their play by play guy,
was on with me yesterday and uh, he said that
he one time said to pave you know, I really
kind of believe that you believe that every game is winnable.

(15:49):
And Pavey said, it is. It is and everybody does
believe that. But but beyond that, and I think Sark's
point was Pavey, along with Clark Lee, of course, has
instilled the belief.

Speaker 1 (16:01):
Now they've had a talent to it.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
And of course we're all familiar with Cedric Alexander and
what he did at LBJ. And by the way, is
is his record now on the verge of is Crenshaw
on the verge of breaking that record?

Speaker 12 (16:21):
Yeah, we might have it. We might have it next week.
I think he needs two fifty now the Anderson running
backs start at LBJ to get that AISD record, So
we might have it in that season finale. Anderson and
Weiss a week from tonight out at the Field.

Speaker 1 (16:36):
Wow, okay, all right.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
So but then in addition Cedric Alexander, he got mk Young,
who's a native text and he's from Midland Legacy. He
like pavienn Eli Stowers, transferred in from New Mexico State.
So there's this pipeline from Los Cruises to Nashville. What
does that say about the state of college football these
days when really good football players are moving from Los

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Cruises to Nashville.

Speaker 12 (17:01):
Yeah, and the common threat is Jerry Kill, who was
kind of Clark Lee's right hand man, and you know,
he was the one I think Jerry Kill pretty much
told Clark Lee if the story goes as I remember, that,
you need to get this guy.

Speaker 11 (17:14):
And Clark Lee had enough confidence in what he said
to go get him. So yeah, it's crazy.

Speaker 12 (17:21):
I mean, you got a fair estate transfer leading a
top five team in Ole Miss or top ten team
in ole Miss. So yeah, we're way beyond trying to
make sense of oh if they played here. Certainly that
doesn't translate to here that those stories are too many
And we don't know what's going to be the quarterback
situation on Saturday with Texas, but there could be a

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guy that was at Gardner Webb and Jacksonville State and Troy.

Speaker 2 (17:48):
Matthew Calwell will be ready at the ready if needed.
I Sark, I think feels optimistic. I guess is the
way because Arch has practiced. But the way the protocol works,
and Sark's very quick to try to help people understand this.
The way the protocol works, you can't just declare him

(18:10):
ready to go, you know, just because he practiced on
was he first and foremost he has to practice on Thursday.

Speaker 1 (18:17):
That's part of the protocol.

Speaker 2 (18:18):
So he did go through the practice this morning, but
there's some other cognitive things and some other stuff he
has to go through before he can be cleared to
then be classified as probable or questionable or whatever. He's
questionable right now, but you can't declare him ready to
go for the game until he passes all those those
other tests. Still, I think Sark feel's confident aut And

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the one that's kind of surprising me is Michael Taff
being able to come back and work so quickly.

Speaker 12 (18:46):
Yeah, and that would be that would obviously be huge
depending on how they wrap up that hand, and you
know what, they.

Speaker 11 (18:54):
Can can get a soft cast on.

Speaker 12 (18:55):
There's something that's legal that he can go out there
and play with just just having is not only his.

Speaker 11 (19:01):
Ability but his leadership and a guy.

Speaker 12 (19:03):
That played in that tough Vanderbilt game last year he
had I think he ended up picking that game as well,
So that would be big both get both sixteams back
on the field Saturday.

Speaker 1 (19:15):
Yeah, against this Vanderbilt offense.

Speaker 2 (19:17):
And we've talked about it and one of the guys,
I guess we should give some credit to old pal
tim back with what he's done with this Vanderbilt offense,
with Pavia, with Alexander, with the one two punch with
Alexander and Young and Stowers of course being being a
big time targeted tight end.

Speaker 12 (19:34):
Yeah, they're scary now.

Speaker 11 (19:36):
They didn't.

Speaker 12 (19:36):
You know, they weren't great offensively obviously in a seventeen
to ten win over Missouri, So then.

Speaker 11 (19:41):
You go, okay, they must have a pretty good defense too,
and they do.

Speaker 12 (19:45):
But even last year when we were there, it kind
of felt like Texas took control and you look up
and it's a one score game and Texas needs fourth
down stops and and you know, field goals to a
big run and then a field goal to kind of
ic it. But this team, it doesn't go away such
a mirror I think, not not just Pabia, but I
think the way Clark Lee has built the program as well. So, uh,

(20:07):
you know it's gonna be ah, it's gonna you know,
pack your lunch and your hard hat Saturday for this
one for the Longhorns.

Speaker 2 (20:14):
Visiting with Roger Wallace, sports director k X A N
And of course I broadcast partner in Long Horn football.
Let's shift to high school now, because the telecast you
guys have is a huge matchup tonight and uh, in fact,
uh you even said it last week when you were
talking about games on down the road. You said, we

(20:34):
we've kind of had to take our lumps on some
of those. Uh, some of those games have been lopsided.
But these next two weeks, tonight's game with Huddo and
Vista Ridge and next week with Anderson and Weiss, I
mean they promised to be really impactful games, not only
in terms of the quality of the game itself, but
what it means to the district races.

Speaker 11 (20:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (20:53):
I mean you look at twenty five six day and
it's five pretty much five for four and Huddo's in
good shape, Bobby, they have the five wins they have
the win over Round Rock. They also have that win
over Vandergriff or they lost I'm sorry to vander it,
but they have the win over a round Rock. So
tonight's kind of a pivotal game there, Vista Ridge. If

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they can get past this one and get to five
and two, you like their chances against Westwood somebody. A
pretty good team's going to be on the outside looking
in in a very competitive nine team district. Round Rock
sitting at four and too, and they still have to
play Vandergriff next week after they play Stony on Tomorrow
night at the Palace.

Speaker 2 (21:34):
Well here, you know, me, I get into a lot
of the minutia thing and if if I'm going to
if I'm going to be the one and I did
the other day to when somebody asked sarka question that
was so it delved into so much minutia, I said
it bordered It was bordering on the booger eating status.

Speaker 13 (21:54):
You know.

Speaker 2 (21:55):
So if I'm going to say that about that, I
got to say that.

Speaker 1 (21:57):
About myself as well.

Speaker 2 (21:58):
But in diving in this the thing that I came
up with that that just kind of really raised my eyebrows,
was you laid out who had beaten who. Vista Ridge
had beaten round Rock but lost to Vandergriff and lost
to McNeil. McNeil beats Vandergriff but loses to round Rock,
and now they've got that tough closing schedule, and they

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were also upset by Sea to Ridge. And then you
have Huddle, which has the loss to Vandergriff, but they've
beaten everybody else, and then they've gotten these two big
games left tonight against Vista and then next week against McNeil.
The shakedown on all of this stuff is, and you're right,
Huddle's in the driver's seat if they win tonight to

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be the top seed in the Division one bracket, Huddle
of the five contenders, Huddle would definitely be Division one,
Round Rock would be definitely Division one. But round Rock
still us to play Vandergriff if they were to lose
to Vandergriff next week, and if Vista Ridge were to
beat Huddle tonight, and then this to plays Westwood next

(23:01):
week and to places McNeil. If they both get in
and the other two of McNeil and Vandergriff, then this
the Ridge goes is the top seed in Division one
and avoids Lake Travis and by district and plays Bowie
in a rematch of the game that the you and
I had on back earlier in the season. Now that's

(23:22):
also uh you know, depending upon Booie beating Austin High.
If they lose to them tomorrow like they did last year,
then it's gonna you know, mess things up again and
you're gonna wind up seeing Westlake back in.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
The D one bracket again. But it's those kinds of things.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
And that's the fascinating thing I always find about six
A is because they don't decide who goes Division one
and who goes Division two, is done by ing rollments
at the end of the year, unlike all the other classifications.
It does bring that extra element of drama into the
final two weeks of the regular season.

Speaker 11 (23:55):
No doubt.

Speaker 12 (23:56):
And uh yeah, I was, I was thinking the same
thing with with Booie and and Austin High. But we're
trying to avoid two years in a row with you know,
having the Maroons keeping out of the playoffs and creating
some certainly some chaos in uh in six A, Division
one and Division two that you know, twenty six twenty five.

Speaker 11 (24:14):
Six a's pretty well set.

Speaker 12 (24:15):
Just when you look at the the enrollments, you kind
of know where where they're gonna be.

Speaker 11 (24:20):
D one, D two. But to this to your point
about the seating, but yeah.

Speaker 12 (24:24):
It's gonna be It's gonna be a fun finish. And
you know, it was interesting last week, Craig. I'm sure
you took notice sitting in two below as I did
with what Lake Travis did to h Westlake last last
week at Chaperone.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
Absolutely, and and they look, you know, really really solid,
uh so, and and Hank Carter's got that team on
the roll. And and I'm sure you're looking forward to
this not only are you know, we think about some
huge final week of the regular season matchup like Bastrop
Liberty Hill would be really really big next week. Assuming

(24:59):
bast Drop handles it business against Blugerville this week, that's
one big, one big game. Then obviously west Lake dripping Springs,
that's a huge game. And then those other two matchups
we mentioned in twenty five to six a Round Rock
against Vandergriff and Huddo against McNeil. I mean, all of
those could really really be climactic on the final weekend

(25:19):
of the regular season.

Speaker 12 (25:21):
Might be better than some first round playoff games depending
on how they take out, and you know, as much
on the line if you're talking about trying to get
to that first round. So yeah, and Dripping Springs, I
mean that program. You know that they're the other ones
when you think of west Lake and Lake Travis and
Lake Travis and Westlake.

Speaker 11 (25:39):
However you want.

Speaker 12 (25:39):
To just say it, but man, what a job Galen
Zimmern's done in that district to kind of be that
third team and maybe even not just the third team
but one of the tops. So fun finish, got some
great football weather tonight.

Speaker 11 (25:55):
I'm fired up on this better tonight.

Speaker 1 (25:57):
There you go, There you go.

Speaker 2 (25:58):
I was thinking, probably we're we'll go with what sweaters
or quarter zips on Saturday morning?

Speaker 12 (26:05):
Whatever you say, I follow your lead.

Speaker 11 (26:07):
That sounds good to me.

Speaker 2 (26:08):
Yeah, let's do that sweaters or quarter zips. Sorry, we
just made the decision. It's on tape somewhere, yeah or digitally.
So hey, thanks for the time. I appreciate you. Have
a great call tonight. Thanks Craig, talk to you all right.
That's Roger Wallis. Keep for on a little joining for
the call tonight. It would be a lot of fun
at seven o'clock on kbv O Vista Ridge hosting Huddo.

(26:29):
That's one of the marquee matchups of this weekend and
it's a Thursday night er, so that's that's really cool,
all right. Coming up next, we have Inconceivable here on
a Thursday afternoon on Sports Radio AM thirteen under the
Zone and the iHeartRadio app here.

Speaker 5 (26:43):
It is now Craig.

Speaker 2 (26:45):
Wa second hour of the program here on Sports Radio

(27:10):
AM thirteen hundred the Zone. Glad you could join us
on this Thursday afternoon Craig Way alongside the producer Jay Carman.
Exciting stuff right around the corner Tonight seven o'clock Long
Worn Weekly with Coach Stark. It's the program we recorded
on Wednesday evenings over on campus and a lot of

(27:32):
fun talking about this football team in this matchup with
the Vanderbilt Commodoores on Saturday. Joining us on the program
will be Johnny Nansen, the co defensive coordinator, the guy
who handles the linebackers are playing at another worldly level
right now.

Speaker 1 (27:49):
Some of what those guys are doing, especially Anthony Hill.

Speaker 2 (27:54):
In addition to that, we'll visit with Jordan Shipley, the
lifetime long horn because he was the last long worn
to return two punts in a season for touchdowns. He
did it in two thousand and nine against Texas Tech
and Colorado.

Speaker 1 (28:10):
Spoiler alert.

Speaker 2 (28:13):
Our broadcast operations manager Terry Kelly does a fabulous job
of culling the highlights that we use in the show
and other things, and that goes back historically as well.
So when we found out Jordan Shipley was going to
be on the program, the request was made, Hey, can
you guys pull up one of those two pump returns

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that he had for a touchdown in two thousand and nine.
One was against Texas Tech, the other one was against Colorado.
So Terry went to diving in to find him and
she found him.

Speaker 3 (28:47):
The problem with.

Speaker 2 (28:48):
The Texas Tech one was that there was a flag
on the play, and I remember this.

Speaker 1 (28:59):
I remember this.

Speaker 2 (29:01):
I'm not gonna throw my broadcast crew under the bus. Okay,
I'm not going to do that, but I will tell
you this. At the time, we had a best producer
I've ever worked with, Bill Harwell, the late Bill Harwell.
And Bill had carried with him a yellow flag like
a penalty flag in his back pocket, so if there
was a penalty he would wave it just to let
us know. And but he would do it unobtrusively, kind

(29:26):
of do it out to the side just so I
could see it, but that I would finish the call
and then say there's a flag on the plate, because
you never know, the flag might have not been germane
to what was going on in penalty declined or whatever.
In this particular case, as Shipley takes off of the
plumb return, I had several different people in the booth
all going waving their arms like flag, flag, Like you know,

(29:49):
Bill goes into reach to pull out the flag, but
he was going to do his normal thing out on
the side, but it flew out of his hands and
it flies like right in front of me. So naturally
write in mid sentence, there's a flag on the play
blah blah blah bah. Here's Shipley's in for the touchdown.

Speaker 1 (30:03):
Yeah, the flag was on tax It didn't matter.

Speaker 2 (30:06):
So the call you might say, to use internet terminology
was corrupted a little bit. Fortunately, the Colorado one was
clean and it was longer. It was he had to
step out of a couple of tackles. It was kind
of like the Ryan niblewin. So it worked out well.
So you'll hear it tonight if you're listening to the program.

(30:26):
But we'll talk with Jordan Shipley about it and the
science of feeling punts. Sark asks him about, you know,
feeling that punt when guys are bearing down on you
and all that other kind of stuff, and then we
talk about his receiving this. He's still the all time
leading receiver in yardage and or in touchdowns and second
in yard I mean he's either one or two in
about five or six different categories.

Speaker 1 (30:46):
Great guy, Jordan Shipley.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
So we'll have that tonight on Long One weekly seven
o'clock here on the program.

Speaker 1 (30:51):
It re airs tomorrow night. It said, we'll also have
one segment.

Speaker 2 (30:55):
We always bring you the opposing teams segment that we
do in the program on this program on Fridays, and
we'll do that on tomorrows show with start speaking in
some pretty specific terms and in depth terms about the
Vanderbilt Commodorees and what they have to do. The World
Series is shifting back to Toronto with the Blue Jays

(31:18):
now up three games to do.

Speaker 1 (31:19):
Think about this now.

Speaker 2 (31:21):
In this postseason, Toronto, of course had the best overall
record in the American League. They won ninety four ball games,
and as such they drew a buy in the first round.
Then they would have home field throughout the throughout the
American League playoffs and beat the Yankees. Trey Ya Savage,

(31:43):
who did what he did to the Dodgers last night,
did that to the Yankees in the Division Series. Then
they dropped games one and two at home to Seattle.
They go to Seattle, take two out of three, and
then come back home down three games to two and
win the last two games at Rogers Center to win

(32:03):
the American League Championship. So now they go into the
World Series. They played the Dodgers. The Dodgers were the
number three seed, The one seed was Milwaukee, the two
seed was Philadelphia. The Dodgers first swept out Cincinnati in
the wildcard round. Then they take out the Phillies, not
having home field advantage, and take them out three games

(32:23):
to one in a best of five. Then against the
one seed, the Brewers, they sweep them dominant, just get
masterful performances from their starting pitching, and they won it
in four straight over the one seed. They lost in
all of the great pitching, and then Shoe Aotany's unbelievable
final game that he had in there with the three

(32:45):
home runs and the six shoutout innings, was that the
rest of the team really wasn't hit much. Now it
sticks out like a sore thumb in this the way
Toronto would shut them down of the last three games,
including the eighteen inning game that the Dodgers won. So
their struggle to find their offense right now. And now
I know everybody's looking at the defense and the bullpen.

Speaker 1 (33:08):
The bullpen defense was kind of floppy last night.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
Blake Snell's not looked good in his two starts in
this World Series, and the bullpen kind of became the
Dodger bullpen again, one that struggled throughout the course of
the season. So as a result of that, Dave Roberts,
the manager, was asked last night after the game, are
the bullpen problems catching up to you and your team
now in this series?

Speaker 14 (33:32):
Yeah, it's hard because you know, you can only push
a starter so much. I thought Blake emptied the tank,
and you know you have an opportunity with the base
open in the sense in this situation, second base was
led up, and you know, I felt Henriquez was the
guy to get him out and you also have a
chance to get a shout out. I pushed Blake as

(33:55):
much as I pushed him all year, and yeah, you
look at the three games that we lost, it you know,
spiraled on us with guys on base, but guys who
got to be better. They certainly had a good game
in Game four, whatever it was. But yeah, I mean
that's just kind of guys have got to do their jobs.

(34:17):
Everyone's got to do their job. And so right now
we're at elimination and we've got to kind of wipe
the slate clean and find a way to win Game
six and pick up the pieces and see where we're at.

Speaker 2 (34:28):
Yeah, all right, well, I will tell you this, Dave
Roberts is right about that with regardless pitching. But I
think they would also be the first to tell you
the pitching is put on a more backed up against
the wall because the offense isn't happening right now. Mookie Batts,
who I think is three for twenty now in the

(34:49):
World Series, actually got to hit last night, but he said,
we've got to figure out something.

Speaker 4 (34:53):
But you look even at the hits they had last night,
Craig obviously, Kei k Hernandez, the big home run and
then you had two kind of seeing eye infield singles
for ta Oscar.

Speaker 1 (35:02):
That was it.

Speaker 2 (35:03):
Yeah, yeah, it's the Dodgers truck out twelve times. They
managed three hits and seven innings against you, Savage. So yeah,
since it since they swept the Reds in the wildcard round,
this is the Dodgers team batting average team batting average
in the postseason after the Wildcard round because they clubed Cincinnati,

(35:23):
but after that against good teams Philadelphia, Milwaukee and Toronto,
they're batting two to fourteen as a team in thirteen
playoff games, five forty four ops with runners in scoring position.
The nine wins in that stretch are obviously a testament
to the starting rotation that's now being asked to kind

(35:45):
of tote it along. But I will tell you this,
and he said he pushed Blake as far as he could,
and Snell did try to give them all that he could.
But Snell hasn't had command of his breaking ball, and
that's a big part of it. So their backs are
to the wall. Now here's another wrinkle, and then and
we'll take a break of them. We're going to hear
from Sean Milder. Here's another wrinkle about this. Remember I

(36:08):
mentioned that the the Blue Jays won ninety four games,
so they got home field advantage in the American League,
and as such, they at home field avtage in the
World Series by one game. The Dodgers won ninety three.
You don't want to know what the difference was. There
was a series in July at Dodgers Stadium. LA won
the first two games. The bullpen blew the lead late

(36:31):
in the Sunday afternoon game. I was watching that they
lost that game. Didn't think too much about it at
the time, other than the fact that Dodgers weren't playing
well at the time. That one game is the difference
between LA having home field and Toronto having for home field.
So if you think games.

Speaker 1 (36:44):
In June and July are meaningless, think again. It can
go a long way.

Speaker 4 (36:48):
At middle fifty one, right, you know, you're always going
to win about fifty, you're always going to lose about fifty.

Speaker 2 (36:53):
And now the Blue Jays are on the precipice, they
are on the verge if they win them a night.
Now the Dodgers have shout Noble Yamamota going for them,
and they have to have it. So they come back
with their their best guy, who had a complete game
in Game two. But even if they win that game,
now you're to Game seven and you get to Game seven,
and the Dodgers are going to have to come back
with another starter who has not been good in his

(37:17):
two most recent outings.

Speaker 1 (37:18):
Tyler Glass now wasn't good.

Speaker 2 (37:21):
In Game three in the in the eighteen inning game,
but forgot about that because the game win eighteen innings.
He got no decision, and he wasn't good against Milwaukee
and the NLCS. The Dodgers rallied back and one of
the thing, but he struggled. He didn't get through five innings.
So that would be in game seven if it gets
to that point.

Speaker 1 (37:41):
But they're gonna have to win game six to fours.

Speaker 4 (37:43):
Game seven more reason you might see Kershaw available for
a quick relief appearance if it gets to that point.

Speaker 2 (37:48):
And if it gets game seven, their reports don't be
surprised to see Otani come out of the bullpen for
the first time ever Game seven. Like I said, my
broadcast partner in Long Run Baseball, Keep Morland put it best.
He played. You know, he was in the bigs for
thirteen years. It was a three time all American Baseball Texas.
You know what he always says, when you get to
a game seven or the final game of a regional

(38:11):
everybody's got their spikes on.

Speaker 11 (38:13):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (38:13):
Well in the Nobbies, everybody's got the spikes on there
forget for the final game.

Speaker 4 (38:17):
Didn't this whole baseball season of sorts begin with Otani
coming out of the bullpen getting us safe to seal
the World Baseball Classic in Japan?

Speaker 11 (38:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (38:25):
How about that? How about that?

Speaker 3 (38:27):
So chance for some so we'll see chance for some
symmetry there.

Speaker 1 (38:31):
Yeah, but la.

Speaker 2 (38:32):
Is gonna have to and uh and by the way,
I'm trying to remember who it is. It's pitching for Toronto.
He's not exactly Chop Liver will be Gosman in games
it's Gosman and and uh, you know he was. He
wasn't bad in Game two. It's just Y'ama Mota was
incredible so the Dodgers. In fact, he didn't give up

(38:55):
that much. It was the bullpen for Toronto that gave
up the bulk of the Dodger runs. Later in the
ball game, when Will Smith hit the home run and
Max Untsey hit the home run, you know you had
most of the damage done later in the game, So
Gosmin in game six. So it's not chop liver now
for the Brewers, I mean for the Blue Jays, But
the Dodgers have got to have another outstanding performance from Yamamoto,

(39:17):
and they have got to find some offense they don't.
It won't matter how well Yamamoto pitches unless he pitches
a no hitter.

Speaker 1 (39:24):
Otherwise they're going to lose, all right.

Speaker 2 (39:27):
Up next, we're gonna hear from Texas men's basketball coach
Sean Miller right here on thirteen under the zone in
the iHeartRadio app.

Speaker 1 (39:39):
This is I think one of the.

Speaker 2 (39:43):
Really underrated songs that Billy Joel did that Kurt he
used to play it in concerts, doesn't do so much anymore.
And of course now since he's had health issues, he's
been off tour for a while. But it's called Summer
Highland Falls, and it's off of the Turnstiles album, and
I think that's part of the reason why doesn't get
some of the aarplay back even back then. Also because

(40:04):
he had a mega, mega block buster hit off of Turnstiles,
which he wrote about twenty minutes is as the story
goes and that's New York State of Mind, which that
whole thing came from him coming back from California after
he'd done Piano Man and all that stuff about his
time back there. But he was coming back. He was

(40:26):
sick of La and wanted to get back to New
York and he took a bus home. He still have
not broken it up big and was and was on
his way back home. And he had a house there
in Highland Falls in upstate New York. And that's why
it's called Summer Highland Falls.

Speaker 3 (40:44):
I love that song. I'm so glad that you appreciate
it well.

Speaker 1 (40:47):
And it's it's a sad song.

Speaker 2 (40:49):
It's it's about, you know, couples who drift apart, you know,
that kind of thing. But it's but it's really done.
The piccolo trumpet that comes in later they have I
think is just beautiful. You know.

Speaker 4 (41:00):
I like knowing that he wrote it on a bus.
You can kind of feel it moving underneath the song.

Speaker 2 (41:04):
Same thing with New York State of Mind. At New
York State of Mind kind of came to him in
the deal. And the way the story goes, he gets
off the bus at the bus station, he takes a
taxi up to his home. He gets out of he
races into his house and says, I gotta find a piano.
Got to pay They had just moved into he didn't
know where the piano was. They got to get to
a piano because he had it in his mind. And

(41:25):
that's how he did the New York State of Mind
in about twenty minutes. And he was working on that
song as well. So anyway, a little bit of music
history there.

Speaker 4 (41:32):
That's going to keep playing my favorite songs coming back
and you'll teach me all about it.

Speaker 1 (41:35):
Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 2 (41:35):
Wow, I'm a big billy Joel fans folks. Now, all right,
Long Warren basketball team is getting ready to embark on
a new era. Sean Miller, a new head coach coming
down from Xavier, getting ready to start his first season.
Texas will open the season on Tuesday night in Charlotte
against Duke. So they're playing six ring team in the

(41:57):
country in their backyard. So that's going to be a
very very difficult. But he was asked, uh and and
he did a media zom today and here's his opening comments.
He's also going to let you know a little bit
about the injury status because they had some injury status
in Modes Pokatitis, who is their sophomore transfer from Lithuania,

(42:20):
and Lesina Treiori, who is a grad transfer, and both
of those guys had gotten banged up.

Speaker 1 (42:27):
So and that's a seventh foot and a six nine guy.

Speaker 3 (42:30):
Yeah, same position. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (42:32):
Yeah, So he gives us an update on those as
well as starting to get his guys ready for the
Duke Blue Devils.

Speaker 15 (42:38):
Yeah, I wanted to start off just on a couple
couple of fronts. One just to update you know, our
our team in terms of our health and where we stand.

Speaker 7 (42:48):
Uh as I think a lot of you know.

Speaker 15 (42:50):
We went into two unfortunate injuries about three over three
weeks ago with Lesina trey Orri and and mod Ore
to five men, and in both of our closed scrimmages,
neither of those two guys participated, which made both of
those scrimmages problematic. And it's also no doubt about it

(43:13):
put us in a unique situation of the thirty practices
to have you know, in essence about three week period
of time with you know, you're kind of like your
two five men that are going to play a lot
of minutes, both out at the same time. I think
the good news is in Modess's case, he's not only
returned to practice but doing really well. He had an

(43:35):
ankle sprain of significance, but a lot of the bad
is behind him, and I think he's not only set
to play, but my hope is he can have a
good four or five six days before we begin, before
we played Duke in terms of Lessina get a mid
foot sprain injury, and that, you know, is a little

(43:57):
bit more complicated simply because, as you know, a year
goal he missed the season with an acl on his
other leg, So we're just making sure that we don't
put him in a bad position. And either way, we
also are anticipating him being available for our season opener,
and he too has returned to practice, more in a
limited capacity than.

Speaker 7 (44:19):
Modest, but no doubt about it.

Speaker 15 (44:22):
You know, selfishly, as a coach, you want your entire
roster to be able to practice every day. Those two
guys missing the time that they missed has really hurt everybody.
If there's a silver lining in it, you know, I
think John Clark and Nick Cody have gotten a lot
of additional reps. They played a majority of the scrimmage

(44:42):
minutes against both SMU and TCU, and you know, we've
we've learned to kind of like play without those guys
during their absence, but we are very much looking forward
to getting them back full time, and especially from their
perspective if both guys are very important to our team,

(45:02):
meaning Lesina and Modes. In terms of the Duke game,
as you know, the Duke game was scheduled before I
became the head coach here. We look forward to the
challenge of playing, if not the best program in America,
certainly one of them. And we have an amazing amount of
respect for Duke, and I really have a lot of

(45:24):
respect for John Shire as a coach. I think the
job that he's done taking over for Coach k is
in itself, on its face, superior. I don't know if
anybody could do a much better job than John has
done kind of taking Duke to taking over at Duke
and then leading them here to the future. So we

(45:45):
know it's going to be a difficult challenge, but I
think at Texas to go where we want to go
and be the program we want to become. Part of
that path is you have to be able to play
against the best and Duke certainly represents that.

Speaker 2 (45:57):
Yeah, I no doubt about that. They're going to play
game at the Spectrum Center. That's where the Charlotte Hornets
play at the NBA. That's where Texas played in the NCAA
Tournament a couple of years ago when they won the
first round game against Colorado State and then fell to
Tennessee in the second round.

Speaker 1 (46:13):
So they have played on that floor.

Speaker 2 (46:15):
Before next He was asked by that this game is
actually called the Dick Vital Classic, named an honor obviously
of Dick Vital, the longtime ESPN broadcaster who has come
back from cancer and expects to be able to work
again this year, and coach Miller has asked about Dick Vital,
what he means to the game and his impact on

(46:36):
the sport.

Speaker 1 (46:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 15 (46:37):
You know, when I think of Dick Vitel, I think
it starts with what he's done for pediatric cancer. You know,
the amount of money that he's raised, his event, which
has become a signature event towards, you know, changing people's lives.
And it's incredible what his foundation has done, what his
event has done, and just it all starts obviously with him.

Speaker 7 (46:58):
I think the second part of it.

Speaker 15 (47:00):
Is, you know what he's meant to college basketball over
what four or five decades now. And I remember back
when I was a high school player playing in a
Dopper Dan round Ball Classic in Pittsburgh, and you know,
just being excited on many levels, one of which was
because Dick Vitel was on the he was the commentator

(47:21):
on the game. And what it feels like to have
him say your name and talk about the game that
you're in. That's I think how we all felt. And
that was in the mid nineteen eighties. But you know,
his passion for college basketball is knowledge. He made the
game better and certainly impacted coaches, players, teams, and I
think he really created an excitement with the fan base

(47:42):
around the world to point them towards college basketball. So
the impact is immense. I look at him as a
Hall of Famer and what he does, and I'm honored,
and I think we are honored as a program to
be a part of this game, all right.

Speaker 2 (47:58):
He was also then with a question about Duke and
that outstanding six nine freshman incoming freshman Cameron Boozer, his
impressions of Cam Boozer, and is that one of the
reasons why he brought in Dalen Swain when he came
in from Xavier to guard guys just like him.

Speaker 15 (48:17):
Yeah, my early impressions of Boozer is, you know, he's
like that generational freshman. You know, there's always the number
one pick in the draft, not all of them are
the same. You know, there's always the best freshman that
plays in college basketball, but from year to year that
varies on actually who that great freshman is. You know,

(48:38):
I look at Cam as the best of the best.
His ability to rebound, you know, just look at the
rebounds that he's had in the first couple of games
he's played. You don't see many players, let alone freshman,
able to do that. And I also think that John
Schier uses him in a very intelligent way, playing both
the four and the five, and makes the match up

(49:00):
with Cam even more difficult than just his already unbelievable ability.
So I think it's unfair to even give Dalen that assignment.
I think you have to guard him as a team,
You have to run multiple people, and I think the
biggest point is you just have to control his second shots.

(49:20):
You know, if he can get five, four, six second shots,
all of those offensive rebounds translate into very bad things
for your team. So how can we do blocking him out,
keeping him off the glass? He follows his own shot
in a really big way, so he misses, he gets
it back and goes back up. We have to be
aware of that and do the best job that we

(49:42):
possibly can. I think that's a big starting point with him.
You know, just how many second shots does he get?
He's like a one man wrecking crew with that stat alone.

Speaker 2 (49:52):
Back to talking about his own team, he was asked
about how he feels his team is acclimating to the
offense that he's bringing in given all the injuries they've
had to deal with.

Speaker 15 (50:03):
I'll go back to Lissina and modest being out. You know,
I think when you get a new job, you're a
new coach, new staff. You know, these thirty practices in
forty two days. They're important to everybody. But I would
use the word crucial, and it's crucial to us because
we just don't have We just have such a lack
of familiarity, right, So when you have two players, especially

(50:28):
they both play the same position out for this extended period,
that has not helped our progress offensively, and unfortunately that's
just that's where we're at.

Speaker 7 (50:38):
The good news is everybody else is learning and growing.

Speaker 15 (50:42):
And the other part of it is, I think we're
going to have both guys back and hopefully they can
have a great stretch of health. But that hasn't helped
what we're trying to build and what we're trying to grow.

Speaker 7 (50:53):
Time is not on our side when it comes to that.

Speaker 2 (50:56):
Hey, all right, we'll hear some more from Seawn mill
are coming up but next hour. But up next we've
got some more college football notes to get to when
we continue here on Sports Radio AM thirteen under the
Zone in the iHeartRadio app.

Speaker 1 (51:12):
All right, is this one of your favorites? Is that
what you're hitting me with here?

Speaker 6 (51:15):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (51:16):
Little Sam Fender with seventeen going on their lil homage
to a seventeen point comeback by the Texas longmark.

Speaker 1 (51:22):
There you go. All right, I like it.

Speaker 2 (51:24):
I like the what you're thinking college football notes. First
of all, when we were talking earlier about the coaching
vacancies and Matt Rule was one of those candidates listed
or at least target possible targets for Penn State because

(51:45):
he played there was there. Yeah, that's off the table.
Now you mentioned you'd heard rumors of an extension. Is
now official to your contract extension Nebraska's given Matt rule.

Speaker 1 (51:57):
That'll take him through twenty thirty two.

Speaker 4 (52:02):
Wow, that's a lot for a guy that hasn't gotten
the signature wins there.

Speaker 3 (52:06):
But in this cycle, you got to keep your guys,
don't you.

Speaker 2 (52:09):
Yeah, if you want to continue to build it. He's
a builder. It's just taken longer to build, I think
than he was hoping or planning on. What's also interesting
to note about this is that his buyout has been bumped.
It was five million dollars a month. Now it's fifteen
million on the bump.

Speaker 11 (52:27):
So.

Speaker 2 (52:29):
Probably not going to take another job during the cycle.
As a result of that. He said his happiness his
family's happiness in Nebraska as the primary reasoning behind why
he agreed to the deal. He's in his third year,
they're six and two this year. He did lead the
program to its first Bowl game in eight years last year,

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and he continues to say that the program has the
potential to return to the greatness that they had in
the past. Then and like I said, he frequently was
linked to the job opening at Penn State, but that
pretty much takes his name out of contention. Uh, not

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only for that, but for the other eight Power Conference
jobs that have opened so far this year. So, by
the way, this new deal does not include any change
in base compensations when the bump when the rule when
they are raised, just gave him an extension.

Speaker 1 (53:30):
It does.

Speaker 2 (53:32):
Offer additional incentive for base salary if Nebraska reaches the
College Football Playoff. There's a new clause in this deal
that states that every time Nebraska qualifies for the CFP,
his base salary on the deal increases by one million dollars.
So if he gets them into the playoff, well, it

(53:55):
won't happen this year. But if he gets them into
the well, I mean if they win out, find a
way to get in the Big Ten Championship game and
then like beat Ohio State and win the Big Ten
championship or Indiana, you know.

Speaker 3 (54:09):
Win over Cincinnati's aging nicely.

Speaker 1 (54:11):
Yeah it is, it is.

Speaker 2 (54:13):
So if if they did that those sorts of things,
then yeah, they could get in and he gets a
million dollar bump.

Speaker 3 (54:17):
Yeah, they have to win.

Speaker 4 (54:18):
They have to beat usc this weekend, then Ucla, Penn State,
and Iowa who's playing some good football.

Speaker 3 (54:23):
So yeah, they all be easy for him.

Speaker 2 (54:25):
So they'd have to run the table that might I
don't know all the type Breakerstan where everything's tends on
that with a Big Ten right now, but that might
get them into the Big Ten championship against either or
Hio State or Indiana.

Speaker 3 (54:38):
Yeah, against one of the big bads, so we'll see.

Speaker 2 (54:41):
Yeah, and then they'd have to win that game to
get into the playoff a.

Speaker 3 (54:46):
Lah Clemson last season.

Speaker 2 (54:47):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, all right. So anyway, his salary, I mean,
it's similar to the client Texas has right now. Larwers
have to be three top ten teams fan to built
this Saturday. Then then they have to after an open date,
have to be number five Georgia, so it's number five,
then the number nine, number five. Then they come home,

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they'd have an unranked Arkansas team a rivalry game, and
then they'd have to be Texas A and M who
currently is number three in the country. We're going to
hear Sarks speak to that coming up next hour on this.
But his salary, Matt rules salary during the course of
this deal has an average annual value of more than
eleven point seven million dollars, and that includes retention bonuses,

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and that puts him the highest echelon of college coaches
of the course of the deal. So they like him
to matt Rule and want to hold on to him,
and he wants to stay.

Speaker 1 (55:42):
So there it is.

Speaker 2 (55:43):
There's some job security there. Okay, there's another story you're
going to get to here. We are all very very
familiar with. If you follow college football and a half
of the past couple of years, you're quite familiar with
everything with the name Connor Stallions. You're very familiar with

(56:03):
his role and that the signs dealing scandal stuff at
Michigan and now Michigan got punished for this, and Stallion's
basically given a death penalty in terms of being an
assistant college football.

Speaker 3 (56:15):
Is he watching us right now? Are we clear here?

Speaker 1 (56:17):
I think we're okay? Okay, where we are?

Speaker 3 (56:18):
All right? No one can see my my monitor for
what's coming up next, you know.

Speaker 1 (56:23):
I think we're okay there, all right. So here's the thing.

Speaker 2 (56:28):
One of the instances cited in the NCAA report when
they punished Michigan was when he was seen on the
sidelines for Central Michigan when Central Michigan was playing Michigan State.
Now Michigan wasn't playing Central Michigan on down the road,
but obviously they they were going to play Michigan State.

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So that's that was, you know, one of the things
that was cited in the report. So Michigan gets punished
for this. Well, he was seen wearing Central Michigan coaching
gear on the sidelines of Central Michigan. And you might think,
they're so, why in the world would they do that,

(57:12):
How how could they pull that off?

Speaker 1 (57:14):
Well, I'll tell you. Jim mcelwaine.

Speaker 2 (57:19):
It was the head coach at the time, and he
had been remember his Stars on the Rise, he'd been
in Colorado State and then went to Florida and work
and you.

Speaker 3 (57:28):
Know all that kind of st Yeah, o c under saban. Yep.

Speaker 2 (57:31):
Absolutely. Now he's the former coach at Central Michigan. Doesn't
mean he's not in trouble for this. Jim mceawaine, three
of his former staff members and the Chippewas program will
face NCAA penalties for their roles in allowing Connor Stallions
to be on their sideline during that game two years

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ago against Michigan State.

Speaker 3 (57:52):
Good because he wasn't he didn't just spawn there. He
had to be allowed there.

Speaker 2 (57:56):
Well, here's how, here's how I rolled out, and he
acknowledged earlier this year on social media they knew almost
every signal opponents used in seven games over two seasons,
including Michigan's twenty twenty three National championship season. All right,
so here's where the Central Michigan Park comes in. Mcaway
was the head coach and along with three former CMU.

Speaker 1 (58:21):
As they call him Central Michigan, Mount Pleasant, Michigan.

Speaker 2 (58:24):
And the university agreed to take the deal first offered
by the NCAA Enforcement Staff on Sportsmanship and then later
approved by the Governing Bodies Committee on Infractions, which closes
the book on one of these strange scandals. So the
nineteen page report was released today. This is what the
NCAA found. Former quarterbacks coach Jack Costner bypassed the program's

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normal procedures by requesting extra coaching gear from Nate Mason,
the former coordinator of athletic equipment operations. There's you know
you've seen going back to the equipment cage there and say, hey,
I need another I need another pullover you win shirt
and Anita had and I need what do you need

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that for?

Speaker 1 (59:13):
Coach?

Speaker 2 (59:14):
I just need I got a guest coming, Okay, So
Costler then asked Mike McGee, the former director of recruiting,
to give the clothing and a sideline pass to his friend,
Connor Stallions. Although Costner had used an alias to avoid
detection before kickoff, the NCAA wrote McGee was unaware of

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whom exactly the gear was four, but he knew it
was for a friend of Costner's who was skilled in
deciphering signals during the game. Stallion student close proximity to
McGee and the other football staff. Given his staff's direct
involvement in the arrangement, Jim mcawaine, former football head coach,
is responsible for their violations under the head coaching responsibility legislation.

Speaker 3 (59:58):
Yep, Buck's got to stop somewhere.

Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
Will Costner, the guy who requested the gear, He got
a four year show cause, meaning any school that hired
him had the NCAA approval and must also demonstrate why
it should not be penalized for hiring him in the
first place. He's also banned from all athletically related activities
for the first year and fifty percent of the second year,
and would face the suspension of fifty percent of the
football season in his.

Speaker 3 (01:00:21):
Second year aka go coach high School Right.

Speaker 2 (01:00:24):
Like Connor Stallions, Mason McGee were given two year show
cause orders and will be restricted from all athletically related
activities in the first year. They would face suspensions for
thirty percent of the football games during the second year. Mcawain,
by the way, is now a special assistant to the
athletic director at CMU. He's a former head coach, but

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he's still employed by the university. The athletic director is
Amy Follen, who used to be the director of compliance here.
She was the director of compliance at Texas before becoming
the athletic director. Mcawaane received a two year show calls
or he would be restricted from all football coaching duties
during the first year and would be suspended from thirty

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percent of the football games during the first year and
twenty percent in the second year. Central Michigan also will
be placed on two years of probation. They have to
pay a fine of thirty thousand dollars in addition to
one percent of the football budget. So yeah, they got
in trouble for being accessories to the crime.

Speaker 1 (01:01:21):
There you go if you will, wow.

Speaker 2 (01:01:24):
So before we get to the break It is time
for our DJC law injury updates, which has certainly been
a great deal of conversation obviously this week for the
long worn football team. So we can tell you from
the SEC Student Athletic Availability report we mentioned this earlier.

(01:01:45):
Arch Manning is listed as questionable right now. We'll hear
more about his situation from Sark coming up next hour.

Speaker 1 (01:01:51):
As well as Michael Tapp. Both have been able to
practice this week.

Speaker 2 (01:01:54):
Edge rusher Lance Jackson and center Cole Hudson also listed
as questionable. Aaron Butler wide receivers listed as profitable. So
there it is your d j C loll injury update.
We'll be back to wrap by hour number two. I'm
thirteen under the zone.

Speaker 1 (01:02:09):
Okay, here we go with the third and final.

Speaker 2 (01:02:12):
Hour of the program. Here, what are you gonna do
with your Thursday night tonight.

Speaker 1 (01:02:17):
Prep spotting boards?

Speaker 4 (01:02:18):
There you go, getting ready to ready to rock and
roll tomorrow for the biggest game of the bass Drop season.

Speaker 1 (01:02:24):
Yeah, big.

Speaker 2 (01:02:26):
Big matchup for bass Drop in Flugerville tomorrow night in
that district. And there's lots of other important games and
we mentioned the one where we had Roger Walls on
in the first hour of the program about that Vista
Ridgehuddo game that'll be televised by kbv O tonight.

Speaker 1 (01:02:43):
That should be an awful lot of fun.

Speaker 4 (01:02:44):
Yeah, maybe a batt'll flip around with Thursday night football
and the backdrop for me with no baseball tonight, we're
playing We've got the Ravens and the Dolphins with Lamar
Jackson returning for Baltimore.

Speaker 3 (01:02:55):
Okay, it's not it's not a popcorn match.

Speaker 2 (01:02:57):
Up, Yeah, right, right exactly. World Series, of course, is
a travel day. Shifting back to Toronto where the Blue
Jays now hold eight three games to two lead. Tray
Savage was tremendous, seven innings, scattered, three hits, struck out. Well,
this is a rookie who started his year in a
ball down there. I believe it was the Jupiter Hammerheads

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he was pitching for. But he was there at a
ball and then moved up the ladder each step the
way and now doing great things in the World Series,
And was asked, you know, how fresh can you be?
You know, go back, You've got a travel day to
day and then Game six tomorrow. Could he be ready
if the Jays maybe needed an inning or two.

Speaker 1 (01:03:39):
Out of him? Yeah. I mean, tomorrow is a full
recovery day.

Speaker 10 (01:03:44):
Get to a place where myself and the staff here
feels comfortable with me. Mentally, I'll be prepared for Game six.
But I mean I'm just ready for whatever's next.

Speaker 2 (01:03:58):
If there is a next, all right, there won't be
a next for the Dodgers if they don't win tomorrow night.
And Dave Roberts was asked to give an overall for
his overall outlook on where they are, having dropped too
in a row now and they're down three games to
two and they have to go back to Toronto, and

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his thoughts on their chances to still win this.

Speaker 14 (01:04:21):
There's a fight in there, there's a compete that I
think there's more in there.

Speaker 7 (01:04:25):
I know there's more in there.

Speaker 14 (01:04:28):
You know, we've won two games in a row, but
again it just comes down to one game. So I
think that we've been in a lot of elimination games
and we found a way to come to the other side,
get on to the other side. So I expect Yamamota
to throw well, but you know, we still got to
take it abat and play catch a baseball, convert outs
and we play a good, clean game.

Speaker 7 (01:04:48):
I feel good about our chances.

Speaker 2 (01:04:50):
All right, So we'll see. That'll be tomorrow night at
seven o'clock. Here's some more from Sean Miller, the Texas
men's basketball coach. We heard a little bit from him
last hour as the Long Warns are finalizing the preseason
preparations getting ready for the season opener on Tuesday night
in Charlotte against the Blue Devils. He was asked about

(01:05:13):
this rule about the G League players who can sign
with college teams and his thoughts on that in terms.

Speaker 15 (01:05:17):
Of the G League news, I don't even know if
I have the proper response to it. I was really surprised.
I think as you read and educate yourself more on
why and how this has happened, you know that leads
me to international basketball, and I just think the byproduct
of the G League is one part of it. But
I think what you're going to continue to see is

(01:05:40):
ready made international players who made a lot of money,
who are now two, three, four years in the EuroLeague,
in the highest leagues in international space, come to college
and now be another version of a really ready impact
to transfer. You know, so far the international recruiting, you

(01:06:05):
have to put them in a category of a high
school player, whether they're young and they're coming here to
go to college for the first time. You know, that's
the majority of who you've seen enter this space. But
the G BIG is one part of this. What it's
going to do, I think is is going to put
some really ready made again twenty one year old, twenty
two year old pros who come to college and maybe

(01:06:27):
not have four years, but can be more of an
all conference player on day one. So I think, like, yeah,
it's going to continue to go for that direction.

Speaker 1 (01:06:39):
Okay, all right.

Speaker 2 (01:06:40):
Next, he was asked what he's learned about his team
in the close scrimmages, even with their adversity.

Speaker 15 (01:06:46):
Yeah, no, I think they have a group that's really coachable,
that wants to learn, wants to grow, wants.

Speaker 7 (01:06:53):
To be a together group.

Speaker 15 (01:06:56):
Being a new coach in the season of twenty five
twenty six comes with it's set of challenges, and I
would just say to you guys, like we're going to
be a very difficult team to judge in the months
of November and December. In my best attempt and I
think all of our collective best attempt to be the
best that we can be, we have some limitations simply

(01:07:18):
because we just haven't been together and through experiences long enough.

Speaker 7 (01:07:22):
You know, we just don't have enough of those.

Speaker 15 (01:07:24):
So I think the silver lining when you watch our group,
but I hope we bring to life for everybody, is
we're a team that continues to develop and get better
as we go along, and that we hit our stride
at the right time with continued good health and just
constant work and improvement. But the best you know, you
talk about you want to be a team that grows

(01:07:46):
as the season goes on and gets better and improves
and hits its stride at the right time. You know,
in my mind, we really don't have a choice, Like
that's what we have to do. And I think that
the more we play games, the longer we are together,
I believe that will be a better team, a more
competitive team, and a team that can win bigger games

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later in the year. That doesn't mean we're starting off
with a bunch of excuses or you know, don't feel
like we can do it. But I think you guys
know what I mean when I say time isn't on
our side.

Speaker 2 (01:08:18):
Next, he was asked about his guards, the ones you
have and who's really stood out and led the team
in the scrimmages.

Speaker 15 (01:08:25):
You know, I don't know if one necessarily stood out,
but you know, obviously, I think when you look at
the strength of our team, you have to point to
our guard play.

Speaker 7 (01:08:33):
And our experience.

Speaker 15 (01:08:34):
You know, the three guys that played here at Texas
a year ago, you know, Tremond, Kendall and Jordan, they've
been constance for us, not just in the two scrimmages,
but I think every day they put a lot of
good work in their experience, shows and shines forward. I
think for me as a coach, I'm just trying to

(01:08:55):
really learn them, to know how to bring out the
best in each of them, you know, put with them
in the right seat on the bus, so to speak.
And that's why I keep bringing up Lessina and Modest
in their absence. Everybody's affected when two people at the
same spot, same position are missing. It doesn't just affect
that position, it affects what you're able to do on

(01:09:16):
an everyday basis. And so that's why I'm so anxious
to get both guys back with us full time because
you know, in Jordan, Kendall and Tremont's aspect of things,
they're trying to learn a new system, and they are
and you know you want to truly give them the
system as it will play out in real games. So
I think, you know, looking at those three, and then

(01:09:38):
I think when you add sim Wilcher, Dalen Swain and
Cam Heidi, you know, the three guys that have come
with us as transfers. You know that I think is
a big strength of our team, the experience, the depth
at the guard position, maybe even the versatility, and I
think as a coaching staff, we have to bring out

(01:09:58):
the best in those guys.

Speaker 1 (01:10:00):
Yes, okay.

Speaker 2 (01:10:02):
Next up asked about Kendall Weaver and of course he
was coming off injury and everything, and is he progressing
the way that Sean is hoping and expecting.

Speaker 1 (01:10:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 15 (01:10:16):
I would say that of all of our players, and
I'll start.

Speaker 7 (01:10:19):
In late May early June when.

Speaker 15 (01:10:21):
Our team came together for the first time, Kendall may
be the most consistent, meaning not only his quality of
play every day, but his demeanor showing up being a
guy who's early to the gym, late to leave, and
super competitive in all that we do, defense, offense, drills,

(01:10:44):
player development. He wants to be good. He loves the game.
He really pours his heart and soul into what he does.
I don't know if any coach could ever say anything
other than he's a pleasure to coach. I think that
sometimes when I watch Kendall, you can't believe how athletic

(01:11:04):
and what he is able to accomplish at his size.
He's not a very big guy. You knows how much
he weighs, how tall he is. He plays much bigger
than the actual size. You know, he walks into the room,
you almost are taken back, like, wow, I thought you
were bigger, right, Because that's how he plays the game.

Speaker 7 (01:11:22):
You know, he can play above the rim.

Speaker 15 (01:11:24):
He's just really fast and quick, and he gives a
lot of himself to what his team does.

Speaker 7 (01:11:30):
So he's been really consistent. We need him to be healthy.

Speaker 15 (01:11:34):
I know you guys have seen him when he is
and isn't, and we're hoping for a healthy season. And
if that's the case, I would bet on him having
his career best year. I believe that he's set up
to do that. Not just three point shooting or scoring,
but you know, he can check the box in a
lot of different areas. He's a very versatile guard.

Speaker 2 (01:11:55):
Okay, there's some from Sean Miller will here's some more
from Seawan tomorrow as they get ready for or the
matchup with the Dude Floyd Devils. Up Next, we hear
from coach Sart from the Thursday media zoom here on
thirteen under the Zone. Well, long Oorns are at home
this weekend after forty two days between games. Texas a
play on Saturday morning eleven a m. Kickoff as the

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Longhorns will take on the Vanderbilt Commodorees on Saturday. So
let's hear from Longhorns head coach Steve Sarkisian and we'll
start off with sarks opening statement.

Speaker 16 (01:12:31):
Forty eight hours and we're back in DKR, which is
obviously very exciting for us. You know, it'll be forty
two days Saturday from our last home game. So the
idea that we get to run out of our own tunnel,
play in fun of our you know, our one hundred
thousand fans and feel their support, their energy, I think
is exciting. I think, you know, one point to be

(01:12:52):
made to the team, which is very critical, the connectivity
that bond our ability to stay connected over the lastlast month.

Speaker 7 (01:13:00):
We need to bring that to d k R.

Speaker 16 (01:13:02):
You know, we can't just rely on you know, external
factors to provide that energy. We got to make sure
we're providing our own energy and then feed off of
the energy from from the crowd and then in turn
give them the energy to keep their keep our crowd
alive in this game.

Speaker 7 (01:13:18):
And so it's got to be a two way street
that way.

Speaker 1 (01:13:20):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (01:13:20):
We know, we're we know it's a heck of an
opponent we're playing.

Speaker 16 (01:13:23):
It's gonna it's gonna take all three phases performing at
at a high level.

Speaker 7 (01:13:27):
But I think we're you know, we're up for the challenge.

Speaker 16 (01:13:29):
It's gonna be a heck of a game, and looking
forward to the opportunity, all right.

Speaker 2 (01:13:33):
Next up, uh as our friend Kirk Bowles from the
Houston Chronicle asking about the danger of risking playing man
and man coverage. Playing man coverage against Vanderbilt when you
have a guy who is mobile and versatil and throwing
the run or tucking in and run like Diego Pavia.

Speaker 16 (01:13:50):
It's a challenge both ways because you know, I think
I think one thing is because of the multiplicity of
personnel groupings, informations and run schemes, you got to make
sure your your gap integrity is is sound in all
that they the looks that they can give you, and

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and so there's times when sometimes zone coverages are a
little easier to adjust things out. Sometimes man is a
little easier to adjust out. But always in the on
the back burner is how are you going to account
for the quarterback and how are you going to count
for the quarterback in the designed quarterback runs? To make
sure you have enough hats to fit the design quarterback runs.

(01:14:30):
You always have to account for do you have enough
people to defend the triple option? Which which is a factor.
And then you have to make sure that if they
do throw the ball that you have the ability.

Speaker 7 (01:14:40):
To defend the the the ad lib plays.

Speaker 16 (01:14:43):
And when he starts to scramble and move out of
the pocket, and it's not always to run, you know,
one of his bigger plays last week was on a
broken play, throwing it back to the running back for
a critical first down. So, you know, really discipline, eye control,
really discipline in our zone drops, really discipline in man
of our rush lanes, our rush lanes, integrity of trying

(01:15:04):
to cage that pocket. I mean, all those things you're
gonna play a part, you know, as as it points
to it, you know. So I just don't think we
can be one dimensional. They're two well, coach, they got
too good of a scheme. We're gonna have to continue
to mix our looks and and and and try to
make things, you know, difficult on him and and try
to create some negative plays.

Speaker 2 (01:15:22):
Next, he was asked about Special Teams play and outside
of the Big Three, if you will, uh, the kicker
Mason Shipley, the punter and holder Jack Bomester Uh, and
of course the punt returner Ryan Niblet. He was asked
to evaluate how Special Teams has done overall as a whole.

Speaker 7 (01:15:40):
A lot of guys are doing a nice job.

Speaker 16 (01:15:42):
And there's some frontline players that are key components to that,
to that unit.

Speaker 6 (01:15:47):
Uh.

Speaker 16 (01:15:47):
And there's some unsung heroes that we don't hear a
lot about, you know, I mean, Michael Taff before he
got injured. Was it was was this mainstay on Special Teams,
Jolan and McDonald, Another guy on Special Teams, Ty Anthony Smith.
Another guy on Special Teams which you see out there,
DeAndre Moore. So some of your frontline guys, but then
you talk about Marshall Landware, Jordan Johnson, Rebel Warren Roberson,

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now Jonah Williams. So you're seeing some of those other
guys that maybe aren't frontline starters on offense or defense,
but are impactful players for us on special teams.

Speaker 7 (01:16:21):
And you know, we take a lot of pride in
special teams.

Speaker 16 (01:16:23):
We have since the day I arrived, and so the
last year going kind of the way that it went
was a little out.

Speaker 7 (01:16:29):
Of character, I would say for us.

Speaker 16 (01:16:30):
And so for us to get back playing to the
standard that we want to play two on special teams
I think is big for us because that's a huge
component of the game, especially in our conference, in games
like this, when you're talking one score games. When that
when that phase of the game can impact the game
from in a positive manner, it's surely beneficial.

Speaker 1 (01:16:50):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:16:51):
Next, Sark was asked about third down defense and the
challenge of dealing with a slower, more deliberate tempo that
Vanderbilt has when they come to the line of scrimmage.

Speaker 7 (01:17:04):
Hey, Steve, they played put on well.

Speaker 16 (01:17:07):
I think that's one of the keys to their success.
Right They're they're one of the top third down teams
in the country. I think they're over fifty percent maybe
fifty two percent on third down, which is which is
an excellent number. And part of that is doing part
you know, they they generally move the ball forward, you know,
they they run the ball, they get themselves in third
and short situations, they convert third downs, they stay on

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the field, and then that allows them to be to
be inefficient offensive football team.

Speaker 1 (01:17:35):
And so the.

Speaker 16 (01:17:36):
Idea is how well can you do on first and
second down to put yourselves in a winning situation on
third down and then when they do get to the
red area to doing a great job of playing red
zone lockout and keeping them out of the end zone.
On the flip side offensively is you know that it's
probably more pressure there to remain efficient on the offensive

(01:17:57):
side of the ball, just knowing how deliberate they can play,
and it's a it's a it's a nice style of play.
They do a good job of playing complimentary football, Vanderbilt does,
and so you know they your ability to remain e
fishing offensively, I think is is equally as important.

Speaker 1 (01:18:12):
All right.

Speaker 2 (01:18:12):
Next up, he was asked about the challenge of preparing
for two quarterbacks, meaning preparing his own two quarterbacks. If
Arch doesn't completely clear all the protocol.

Speaker 1 (01:18:24):
And all of that other kind of stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:18:27):
Uh and and he has to go with Matthew Caldwell
and the adjustments that they might need to make.

Speaker 16 (01:18:32):
You know, we haven't we haven't changed anything that we've done.
You know, our our system has been our system. I
know that as coaches and his teammates have the utmost
you know, confidence and respect for for Matt Caldwell. You know,
he's he performs really well. I know you guys have
a very small sample size of what you see in game,
but he gives us a ton of confidence in the

(01:18:53):
way that he practices every day, the way that he works.

Speaker 2 (01:18:55):
Uh.

Speaker 16 (01:18:56):
Naturally, He's been thrown into the fire here a couple
of different times in SEC play and has performed very well.
So the game plan is the game plan, and I
think that they, you know, all of his teammates have
a ton of confidence in Matt if it's his time
to go.

Speaker 1 (01:19:08):
All right.

Speaker 2 (01:19:09):
Next up, I asked about ty Anthony Smith and what
he has done not only as a linebacker, and again
you'll hear that along word weekly tonight with Sark and
our guest linebacker's co defensive coordinator, Johnny Nansen, and he
speaks at length about ty Anthony Smith, but Sark was
asked about ty Anthony's role on special teams and the

(01:19:30):
growth he's had.

Speaker 16 (01:19:31):
I think it's a byproduct of his commitment to it.
You know, he's he's gone for it. He was a freshman,
that was his way. He figured out early on that
was going to be his way to get on the field,
and he worked at it. He became one of Coach
Banks's kind of go to guys on special teams and
that actually earned him more playing time on defense as
a freshman. And then he's continually grown. You know, I

(01:19:53):
think one thing about ty Anthony is how much he's
matured from the day he arrived to where he is today.
I mean, he he's a leader on our team. He's
you know, football is important to him. He's a great teammate.
And at the end of that game last week, you
know he was in there playing those last four drives
on defense. And he's impactful. He's got a knack for
the football. He plays with fanatical effort, he's physical, he's fast,

(01:20:16):
and those are all great attributes obviously on special teams
as well.

Speaker 2 (01:20:19):
All Right, Next up, I was asked about the interior
defensive line depth. They had to play eighty three snaps
or eighty six snaps last week, eighty three the week
before in those two overtime games.

Speaker 1 (01:20:32):
And how important is having.

Speaker 2 (01:20:33):
That interior defensive line depth be able to spell one another.

Speaker 16 (01:20:37):
I think the one thing that has gotten notoriety for
Vanderbilt's offensive line is that they played with a strong
and a weak side. You know, most size more typically
as you have a left tackle, a left guard, and
then a right guard and a right tackle, and they
they flip sides, you know, And that's a little bit
of an older model, but your very effective model worked

(01:21:00):
for a long long time and it works for them.
There's not much really to make of it outside of that.
That's what they do. I do think this is an
excellent run blocking unit. They use a variety of schemes.
They they pull well, they get to the second level well.
And so the task is really on our defensive front.

(01:21:20):
You know, if if this game wants to go the
way we wanted to go, you know, our defensive fronts
has got to play and we need to play well,
and we need to be we need to be dominant
on first and second down, and we need to do
a good job on third down of caging the quarterback.
And so I think our depth has played a part
over the past couple of weeks. You know, their ability
to stand tall and a goal line stand at Kentucky

(01:21:43):
on the ninetieth play of the game to get a stop,
their ability to sack a quarterback on the ninetieth play
of the game and overtime at Mississippi State. I think
speaks volumes to the depth that we have and the
trust that we have and a lot of those guys
to play at critical moments.

Speaker 2 (01:21:59):
Okay, one thing that can be said about the team
you heard me mention a little while ago, the steep
hill they have to climb just to even have a
shot to reach the SEC Championship Game. And by the way,
the math does add up if they defeat Vanderbilt, Georgia,
Arkansas and Texas A and M. Even if it came

(01:22:21):
the tiebreakers, Texas would be in the SEC Championship game
based on head to head wins important head to head
wins over those three ranked teams Vanderbilt, Georgia and Texas
A and M. They don't play Alabama, they don't play
Ole Miss. But it would the tiebreakers would set up
well for them. On that all that said, Sark was asked,

(01:22:47):
does he have to keep his guys focused on the
here and now or does he even bring up the
down the road possibilities.

Speaker 16 (01:22:54):
The one thing about me with our team, I'm not
naive that they don't read and see and understand, and
so I want to make sure that they can understand
my perspective. So I had about a minute and a
half discussion about what your point is. We've got four
regular season games to go, and if we can handle
our business, we have as good as opportunity as anybody

(01:23:16):
to play in the SEC Championship game and be part
of the college football playoffs. But none of that is
going to happen if we don't handle business this week.
And so as long as that just went for you guys,
for me to explain what it is, that's about how
long I talked to the team, then our focus went
right back into this game. This is the most important
game of the year because without this game, those other
three games, you know, they lose, they lose the impact

(01:23:38):
of what they can matter down the road. So we've
got to pour all of our energy and our efforts
into this one.

Speaker 7 (01:23:43):
For Saturday.

Speaker 2 (01:23:44):
Next, asked about him at mostly the fifth he had
the two big touchdown catches and really coming on after
all the injury issues, and Sark was asked what has
impressed you most about what he's seen from himitt.

Speaker 16 (01:23:53):
All the things I thought he would be he's growing
into and so I'm not really surprised. You know, he's
got elite hands, he's an excellent route runner, he's got
deceptively he's got deceptive speed, he's got length, he's a
physical blocker, he's smart, he's a good teammate, and so

(01:24:15):
all the things like I thought he would be in
our program now are starting to come to life. So
I don't want to say that I'm surprised by anything,
because I think what he's doing is exactly what we
thought he could be.

Speaker 1 (01:24:26):
All right. Next asked about his relationship.

Speaker 2 (01:24:29):
What kind of relationship, if any, does he have with Clarkley,
the Vanderbilt coach, and his thoughts on the job that
he's done.

Speaker 16 (01:24:35):
A ton of respect for Clark obviously, you know, we
go to SEC meetings and things and we spend some time.
But a ton of respect for the job he's done.
That's not easy when when you're rebuilding the program, and
I think the belief that he had in his process
to get them there, he's held true to you know, obviously,

(01:24:55):
you know, it's not always about the vision that you have.
You have to put things into action, and Clark clearly,
clearly has done that. You know, he's brought in some
nice pieces to the puzzle from a recruiting standpoint. Obviously
Diego Pavia one of those. I mean in the impact
that he's had and maybe attracting other players, and a
sense of belief in that locker room, a ton of

(01:25:16):
credit and a ton of respect for Clark and the
job that he's done and continues to do at Vanderbilt.

Speaker 2 (01:25:21):
The last two weeks, long Wards have had to really
ramp up, rev up the two minute offense in come
from behind situation last week, down seventeen twice in the
fourth quarter to Mississippi State. The week before Kentucky trying
to get down the field like they did to get
the field goal that they thought would give him the
win in regulation, only to see Kentucky get it to overtime.

Speaker 1 (01:25:43):
But they end up winning anyway, and.

Speaker 2 (01:25:46):
Sarker's have to ask if there is a benefit to
having put his offense through that the past couple of weeks.

Speaker 16 (01:25:53):
I think it's confidence building, you know, especially you know
one when you when you execute it at a high
level and you get things done, and that builds confidence
and belief in what you do.

Speaker 1 (01:26:04):
Too.

Speaker 16 (01:26:04):
There's valuable lessons learned when maybe you don't execute them
the way you would have liked to have executed it,
and so you've got to look at it from both
ends of the spectrum. We do try to practice a
lot of special situations and scenarios, you know, and that
has been something that I've learned in my time and
as an assistant coach and have tried to evolve more

(01:26:25):
into and I think it's really benefited us. And we
do a situational Master's meeting every Friday morning. We'll start
tomorrow morning with that meeting and go through different scenarios
of examples from around the NFL or college football or
whatever it might be, and then how we would play
that scenario. So we try to put them in as
many of those scenarios.

Speaker 7 (01:26:46):
As we can.

Speaker 16 (01:26:46):
You can't predict all of them, and they only show
up when they show up, you know. But as long
as we keep trying to raise the football IQ of
our players and executing in those critical moments you have
a better chance. There's so many one score games right
now that ultimately you know, your performance at those critical
moments I think is vitally important.

Speaker 1 (01:27:07):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:27:07):
And then finally, this roll is all the way back
to something that talked about during fall camp workouts in August.
At that time, I mentioned from being at the press
conferences and things of that nature and hearing Sark's responses,
was that I think I'd heard more questions about team

(01:27:28):
leadership than I'd ever heard about any football team ever before.

Speaker 1 (01:27:32):
And that was going in the season.

Speaker 2 (01:27:33):
And then you know, there's the established team leaders Sarch
Banning on offense and Michael Taff on defense. Two of
those guys, Anthony Hill on the defensive side for the
Logarns offensive linemen are there as well. Okay, so now
two of those guys got banged up. Two of those
guys are questionable for this week at least right now,
Manning and Taff. So Sark was asked, are there other

(01:27:56):
guys who have stepped up in the leadership category?

Speaker 16 (01:27:59):
No, I think that's a great point, and I think
a lot of guys have grown over the past month,
and I know it's easy to point to now this week,
like the guys have been growing into this role.

Speaker 7 (01:28:09):
You know, I've said I think d J.

Speaker 16 (01:28:11):
Campbell has grown into the leader that I was hoping
he was going to be, you know, six seven months
ago and now you know where his leadership's at. DeAndre
Moore has grown into that role. I think Parker Livingstone
has grown into that role.

Speaker 7 (01:28:24):
Obviously.

Speaker 16 (01:28:25):
You know what Trey provided when he got back, I
think has helped us immensely.

Speaker 7 (01:28:29):
Trevor Guseby on the.

Speaker 16 (01:28:31):
Defensive side of the ball was probably a little easier,
you know, when you have Ethan Burke, Anthony Hill, Colin Simmons,
Manny Mohammad, those.

Speaker 7 (01:28:37):
Guys were easy.

Speaker 16 (01:28:38):
But to watch the progression of Jolen and McDonald, to
watch the progression of a you know, ty Anthony Smith,
which we touched on. You guys have heard me rave
about Leongelafal, but I've been talking about hero Canoe, Cole Brevard,
Alex January.

Speaker 7 (01:28:54):
Is coming out of his shell.

Speaker 16 (01:28:55):
And so you're I'm watching a team mature every single day.
And I know there's a focal point on this week
and that's understandable. But I've been watching a lot of
these guys grow up and mature over the last month,
and I think that's why their connectivity is better, because
guys are feeling a lot more confident and comfortable and

(01:29:16):
being vulnerable and being honest with one another, taking accountability
for maybe when they're not on point, and then having
the ability to step up and the lead in their
own right. So it's a good place to be that
way for us. If I didn't have these two guys
earlier in the year, I would not feel as comfortable,
But now going into this game, feel I feel a
lot more comfortable if I don't have those two, knowing

(01:29:38):
that we have the leadership on both sides.

Speaker 1 (01:29:40):
Of the ball, all right.

Speaker 2 (01:29:41):
That's sort that's the final media availability he does with
the media overall.

Speaker 1 (01:29:47):
Of the week prior to the game.

Speaker 2 (01:29:49):
The next time he speaks, the conversation that I'll have
with him about about an hour forty five before a kickoff,
So that was they carry the one about nine fifteen
on Saturday morning there and we'll get the final update
from him on his guys, you're coming back from injury

(01:30:09):
and the feel of the team and going back to
an eleven am kick as well. Should be a great
day for football. It's only about a twenty percent chance
of rain. So good that went down. Yeah, yeah, I
think you'll be okay. I think you'll be okay.

Speaker 1 (01:30:20):
What section are you Inhi? Going?

Speaker 14 (01:30:23):
No?

Speaker 4 (01:30:23):
I got to figure that out. I don't haven't had
the tickets on my phone yet. Oh okay, all right,
I'm leaving that to the other people, the other.

Speaker 2 (01:30:29):
People that it's up to them that pull it off. Okay. Well,
I think he'll be in good shape regardless. Otherwise, all right,
we have more coming up. Some other football notes when
we continue on thirteen.

Speaker 13 (01:30:38):
Out of the Zone.

Speaker 1 (01:30:53):
There's some George Harrison solo work there. What is Life There?

Speaker 2 (01:30:59):
From believe seventy five something like that from mid seventies.

Speaker 1 (01:31:02):
There some of his great solo work post Beatles.

Speaker 2 (01:31:07):
Announcement king down from the Texas Sports Hall of Fame.
The twenty twenty six class that will be honored on
April eighteenth, conducted on April eighteenth, has this class some
things that were really noteworthy about it. For example, Clinton Dempsey,

(01:31:34):
outstanding American soccer players from Nacadoch's Chad Hedrick, Olympic speed skater,
Charmagne James World champion rodeo writer, also Lewis Santop who
was a great Negro League Hall of Famer going in

(01:31:54):
the Texas Western Miners basketball team nineteen six, the entire
team that won the National Championship now known as UTEP,
back then it was Texas Western, the first college basketball
team to start an All African American starting five. For
that they are being inducted the Class of twenty twenty six.

(01:32:17):
And then these from the world of football, Von Miller
from Texas A and M and great career in the NFL,
current commander YEP, Gary Patterson, former TCU head coach, Zach Martin,
the former Cowboy, and Steve McMichael, the great Longhorn defensive
lineman who just passed away recently from als. But what

(01:32:44):
a great career that Steve McMichael had, as he'll be
posthumously inducted. He played fifteen years of course, former All
American of the Longhorns, and then played fifteen years with
the Chicago Bears. Was part of the Chicago Bears nineteen

(01:33:05):
eighty five Super Bowl championship team. He was inducted into
the Pro Football Hall of Fame as a member of
the Class of twenty twenty four, also a member of
the National Football Foundation College Hall of Fame in two
thousand and nine. A four year letterman at Texas from
seventy six to seventy nine, a member of the nineteen
seventy seven Southwest Conference championship team, twice selected All Southwest

(01:33:27):
Conference in seventy eight seventy nine, and graduated as the
school's all time leader and career tackles with three hundred
and sixty nine and thirty sacks. Also a finalist for
the Lombardi and Outline Awards in nineteen seventy nine. He
claimed Team and Hulable MVP honors that season after totaling
one hundred and thirty three tackles during his time at Texas.

(01:33:48):
He also posted forty tackles for lost, ninety nine quarterback
pressures and eleven force fumbles as the Long Orange went
thirty four to twelve and one during his time. He
becomes the fifth former Longhorn. He became the fifth former
Longhorn to be inducted in the Pro Football Hall of
Fame Earl Campbell, Bobby Dylan, Tom Landry, Bobby Lane. In

(01:34:09):
addition to five Texas football greats in the Football Hall
of Fame. Texas Tech Shram, the former Cowboys and Pro
football executive for forty four years, was also inducted in
the Hall in ninety one, and McMichael was an integral
part of that Bears famous forty six defense that led
him to the championship of Super Bowl twenty. So good

(01:34:32):
to hear that news about the late Steve McMichael as
the class of twenty twenty six for the Texas Sports
Hall of Fame was announced. So that's good to hear that.
The college football coaching search, We've talked about this and
the whole thing, all the politics that are involved at LSU.

(01:34:57):
How seemingly all of these schools, at least all the
SEC schools and perhaps Penn State as well that are
involved in this, are playing the waiting game. With Lane
Kiffin to said to gauge his interest in all of this.
Florida State could come open, Auburn could come open as well.

(01:35:18):
He would be high probably on those wish lists as
well if it were to come to that. Also, it's
been mentioned that Mike Elcho might fit into what Penn
State would want, given his roots and how he spent
the first fifteen years of his coaching career in the Northeast,

(01:35:40):
mid Atlantic, in the Midwest. He is talking about breaking
down the barriers with Jexas, A and M. He said,
we have high goals and expectations for this team in
this program.

Speaker 1 (01:35:53):
We know in order to meet them, we have to
do things that haven't been done.

Speaker 3 (01:35:58):
So on your list, yeah, Wisconsin might open.

Speaker 2 (01:36:03):
Yeah, yeah, that's that's another possibility. So anyway, that supposedly
a quote unquote industry source whatever that is college football
media said quote Elco should take that Penn State job?

Speaker 1 (01:36:20):
Why?

Speaker 3 (01:36:21):
Yeah, why is that a better job?

Speaker 1 (01:36:23):
You know?

Speaker 2 (01:36:23):
People are asking and the one thing that Penn State
has of our Texas A and M is history.

Speaker 1 (01:36:30):
But that's about it. Texas A and M. In terms
of resources.

Speaker 2 (01:36:34):
You know, the stadium is almost the same size, you know,
Beaver Stadium, Happy Valley might be a few thousand seats
to me, one O nine as opposed to like one
O four, one five at A and M. But the facilities,
the program, the visibility of the conference in the SEC
and Penn State's visibility in the conference in the Big
Ten pretty much offset one another. So what it would

(01:36:59):
appeal to him more being a Midwestern guy and or
the guy's opposted down there, but he's done quite well.
He was a defensive coordinator of Texas A and M,
and then of course he went to Duke, did a
good job as head coach there, and Al's come back
and here they are number three in the country and
unbeaten and would seem to be a lot to be
in the College Football Playoff barring a complete collapse the

(01:37:20):
rest of the way. So I think they're probably in
good shape for that. So it'll be interesting to follow
that over the course of the next few to the
text line where somebody said Trey you Savage was facing
Rice in the spring of twenty twenty four, now throwing
gyms in the College World Series.

Speaker 1 (01:37:39):
That's true.

Speaker 2 (01:37:41):
And somebody said long Horns, baby, God blessed Dicky V.
Talk about the dig Vitou classes. Yeah, that the Longhorns
will be playing in next week. And somebody said, look
for Brian Hartline to get a lesser power for job
like Wisconsin. Possible, certainly possible. He would seem to be

(01:38:03):
in line to be up for a head coaching job
being the offensive coordinator there and maybe in the Big Ten.
Wisconsin might be that type of job. There for him.
Our man Seapal said, TCU and Sunny Dyke's were told
that Michigan was known for stealing signs when they played.

(01:38:24):
The story was told, you're probably right, Seapowe. The final
score of the game was sixty five to seven. I
think Michigan could have given their playbook to TCU and.

Speaker 1 (01:38:40):
Not Michigan.

Speaker 2 (01:38:40):
Georgia could have given the playbook to TCU and they
would have beaten him that bad. TCU beat Michigan in
spite of what might have happened in that Fiesta ble,
so that's why you didn't hear any squawking about it.
But then in the next game they lost sixty five
to seven in the National Championship to Georgia, and like
I said, Georgia could have given him their playbook. Probably
Blane still when and won the football game off of that.

(01:39:02):
But I agree with you the whispers were going around
for a while about Michigan and sign stealing.

Speaker 4 (01:39:10):
Kind of like how the Nationals knew the Astros were
sign stealing in twenty nineteen and they were tipped off
on that from other teams. I think it's a similar
sort of thing where TCU was aware of it and
took the precautions.

Speaker 2 (01:39:22):
Yep, absolutely all right. We'll be back to wrap up
today's edition. The program on thirteen under the zone

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