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October 23, 2025 • 18 mins
KXAN's Roger Wallace visits with Craig, discussing the imminent return of Longhorns running back CJ Baxter among other topics for Saturday's game against Mississippi State.

They also discuss a busy weekend of high school football with Westlake-Lake Travis, Anderson-Hays, and Vandegrift-Hutto on tap among other matchups.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
All right, I am not the entertainer, Billy Joels the entertainer,
but we hope to bring you some entertaining sports radio,
and that's why we have Roger Walla's my broadcast partner
in long warn football and the sports director at kate
x A and joining us. Now, how entertaining could Startville,
Mississippi be this Saturday?

Speaker 2 (00:22):
Roger, Well, we both.

Speaker 3 (00:25):
Went there for other sports and we couldn't get out.

Speaker 4 (00:27):
So we improved that. No, gross, by the way, there,
let's hope we get out. But yeah, I mean it's
one of those where you get in, you get out.
We're not even gonna go there till the game. We're
going to be standing Elvis's birthplace on Friday night.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
Right, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
And by the way, because you and I are landing
and the team is staying in Tuplow, so they're staying
about an hour north. And because we're landing so late,
it's going to be dark and would be too difficult
to get down there for you to do your reporting
standing up in front of Davis Wade Stadium. So have
you decided you want to do it in front of
Elvis's birthplace?

Speaker 2 (01:05):
The house? Where is it? Because apparently it's set.

Speaker 4 (01:07):
Aside, we're work shopping it because our Lemon Whittaker got
a little little earlier flight out. He's actually going to
be there, so we might just turn him loose and
uh and start Bill and let him let him experience.

Speaker 3 (01:20):
It tomorrow or trying to figure that out.

Speaker 4 (01:22):
But yeah, that's kind of where we are with this
travel schedule, right. We're not even going to get to
the town where the game is until game time.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
Yeah, that's it's a little weird.

Speaker 1 (01:31):
And Start told me last night when we were Yeah,
when we were recording Longhorn Weekly, he wasn't incredibly impressed
with the hotel where we and the team will be staying.
He wasn't incredibly He had been there one time before
with Alabama, and uh, he said he was that close

(01:53):
if you spread your thumb and index finger a quarter
inch apart to having the team stay in Tuscaloosa because Tuscaloosa,
by the way, Alabama is the closest SEC school to
Mississippi State. Notn'll miss not anybody else, it's Alabama. It's
about an hour and twenty minutes from Starkville to Tuscaloosa,

(02:14):
and I actually made that drive a few years ago
when the Texas women played Mississippi State, when Vic Shaefer
was coaching at Mississippi State and had.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
Idea, yeah, idea, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:26):
You're gonna see Vic tonight. Right, what's that You're gonna
see Vic tonight.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
I'm going to see him, yes aloud.

Speaker 4 (02:32):
Toss me the keys to his place in Starkville that
he took the team to before they played Missippi State,
and we'll just say we'll just stay.

Speaker 3 (02:40):
On the ranch.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
Hey, hey, I'd be all for that. I'll bring it
up to him. I'll see what he I'll see what
he thinks about that, because I know Holly Shaffer's wife
was giving restaurant dining tips to different people who were
asking U. But uh, you know, it's Tuscaloosa is an
hour and twenty away, and I drove through it on
the way to to Birmingham after doing a game in Starkville.

(03:02):
Or Vick's Mississippi State team is one of the teams
that went to the back to back National championship games.
They beat Texas on that Sunday night when they had
Tierra McCallan in the middle and that outstanding team, and
I remember driving through youthing, Wow, it's not that far
away from there, whereas two plow is a little closer.
The question is, is it is it worth the twenty

(03:23):
minutes closer for the hotel swap. Sark says that's a
big wolf see with regard to that, but he said
he was very, very close to having the team just
stay in Tuscaloosa and go over, but he said it
doesn't matter. And I think this is why Roger on
Monday at his news conference, I think this is why

(03:43):
he said the exact words were another game on the road,
staying at a hotel that's not our own.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
He mentioned that on Monday.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
So it's probably in the mindset that the other thing
that's got to be in the mindset is the comings
and goings of this football team.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
Roger, you know, they get CJ.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
Baxter back this week, but lose Michael Taff and guys
have been, you.

Speaker 2 (04:06):
Know, coming and going.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
It's hard to get the complete healthy roster on the
field at the same time.

Speaker 4 (04:12):
Yeah, And I did my pregame interview with him for
Texas Game Day today and asked him about Taff and
he said, the one good thing about Michael Tapp is
he's such a not only a good example, but he
affects the team in other ways off the field and
produces habits and things like that. And then he you know,
he said what you know what he's say, it's an opportunity.

(04:34):
Johnny McDonald Derrek Williams, who you know you mentioned last year,
was in fact the starter until he got injured.

Speaker 3 (04:41):
So, uh, they they have a you know, they have.

Speaker 4 (04:44):
A multitude of talent on that defensive side. But obviously
that's a big loss, especially in a road game where
I'm sure Michael Tapp is such a calming influence on
that defense.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
Yeah, and and the defense has played so well. And
last night we had Kenny Baker on with us, and
for folks who didn't hear, we were recording the program
last night's coming Up at six tonight, six o'clock tonight,
long worn weekly with coach Sark because we have the
Texas women's game against Lovebock Christian at seven, the exhibition game.
But we had Kenny Baker on and he was talking about,

(05:15):
you know, and he works with the interior of the
defensive line, and I asked him about what Anthony Hill
said the other day when Anthony Hill was asked, who
is the scariest player on this football team. And without
hesitating a second, he said, Colbervard, Colbervard.

Speaker 4 (05:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
He and Baker said, yeah, I can understand that. He's
a pretty big, imposing guy, and he said he's a
wonderful teammate's teammates love him.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
And he said, but you don't want to cross him.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
And it's guys like Brevard, Emma, Rod Watson and Travis
Shaw of late and Alex January, those guys who are
really kind of filling in the gaps in the middle
like we've seen the interior of Texas defensive lines do
the past few years.

Speaker 4 (05:59):
Yeah, back and watch the not only the goal line
stand in overtime, but the fourth down play in the
first quarter. And it's those guys in the middle that
get it all started, doing that dirty work going down
low and really allowing the linebackers and guys to pinch
in from the side. But they're the ones that are

(06:20):
absolutely submarining that offensive line to get it started.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
Yeah, I'm glad you brought that up, because I did
bring up that not only the goal line play, but
the fourth down play on the first drive, as you mentioned,
and he and Sark both pointed out yes, Cole Brevard
and Travis Shaw and Marod Watson and Hero Canoe and
Alex January, those guys they go in and pinch in.

(06:44):
And he said, but if you look at those other
key plays, looking at Brad Spence coming off the edge
and Leonge Lafowl over the top and Anthony Hill kind
of in between the two of them, you know, that's
everybody kind of knows that specific area. It's not just
about assignment football, but it's almost like giography about the
angle that you have to take in a given area to.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
Kind of plug it.

Speaker 1 (07:05):
And Kenny Baker made a great point when he was
talking about he was actually on the staff of the
Miami Dolphins when they had to play the Eagles and
they had to try to defend the push push and
he said, and like everybody else, we didn't do a
good job with it all that, but it gave me
ideas about angles and how we can better angle to

(07:26):
cut off gaps to get across the goal line.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
And I think that's what we saw last Saturday.

Speaker 3 (07:30):
Yeah, it's fun because you can go look at that.

Speaker 4 (07:33):
You could look at eleven different times and watch eleven
different players and what they did and probably eight of
the eleven. You could say, oh, they they had a
hand in on that play. It's really it's really fun
to go back and forth, back and forth, especially if
you can, you know, get the high and goal or
the all twenty two or something like that, although all
twenty two were basically a tight shot on that play.

Speaker 3 (07:53):
But yeah, everybody, everybody certainly had their role.

Speaker 1 (07:57):
Do you remember much about Blake Shapin's time at Baylor.
In's the game against Texas.

Speaker 3 (08:02):
I don't. I mean, you know, helped him win a
Big Twelve championship.

Speaker 4 (08:05):
I know he's active, he's a guy that can get
out of the pocket, make things happen. But yeah, you're
pushing me a little bit. I assume they won that
game against Texas. When they won the Big Twelve Championship.

Speaker 1 (08:18):
It was one of those games, remember all those leads
that got away in the second half for the long
wards had a double digit lead on the Bears in
the second half and got away. But then you go
further and like you said, helped them win the Big
Twelve Championship. He set a Big Twelve record by completing
I think it was what it was, sixteen of seventeen
passes at a point, and of course it came down
to that goal. Speaking of goal line stands, it came
down to the goal line stand that Baylor had against

(08:40):
Oklahoma State. But he's a guy that apparently he has
just you know, made some very significant strides. And speaking
of health, if Mississippi State has both Fluff bothwell, I
love that name for running back and to Von Booth,
and they expect that both of those guys on the
field playing that can make it difficult because the way

(09:02):
they like.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
To run the football.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
And toward that end, furthermore, you know when people think
of that Art Brile's offense when he was at Baylor,
and going back to when I was broadcasting get high
school games and saw him doing it at Stevenville, his
offense while it was wide spread and those wide splits
and all that other kind of stuff, they were about
running the football. And Sark was saying he believes that

(09:26):
Jeff Levy, of course Brill's son in law and had
been on the Oklahoma step, has gone back to the
true Art Briele's offense.

Speaker 4 (09:32):
Now, Yeah, and especially they're so hard to defend when
they start to get some rhythm on offense because that's
where they they really turn up the heat, going tempo,
and you know, you think back to all those different
offenses Texas Tech at times Oklahoma they get a first
down and then it turns into a fire drill and
your defense is really just fighting to get lined up,

(09:55):
let alone defend the play. So that's that's obviously a
big key trying to slow him down, you know, shape
and I mean, he's got to be so anxious with
what happened in Florida that pass it was picked off
by the three hundred and fifty pounds. They were already
in field goal range against Florida, So he's got to
be chomping at the bit for a couple of reasons.
Wasn't here last year to play against Texas members of
from Baylor, but then that lost to Florida last week

(10:17):
and kept him winless. But a third third time they're
going to play an zero to three sec team.

Speaker 1 (10:24):
I think from Yeah, yeah, visiting with Roger Wallace here
on thirteen under the zone. All right, let's jump to
high school before we get to the game. You're calling
the night, which is a big game, and then there's
another big game that's going on the night we'll get to.

Speaker 4 (10:36):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
But most folks, I think would view the Battle of
the Lakes as being the biggest game, and folks can
watch that live on k Exam Plus tomorrow night, Lake
Travis at West Lake. I was asked about this about
what really struck me about this game, and I said,
you know, what really strikes me about it is that,
with all due respect to the current players on e

(11:00):
to these teams, you don't necessarily have a Jaden Greathhouse
on one side and a Garrett Wilson on the other.

Speaker 4 (11:06):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
You do have talented players Van Hopping the running back
for Lake Travis and then uh and then obviously reach
Wise at quarterback for West Lake.

Speaker 4 (11:15):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
But but they just strike me as two very sound, solid,
fundamentally sound, complimentary football play insert your cliche, and obviously
well coach football teams that are going at each other
tomorrow night.

Speaker 4 (11:28):
And what we think of when we think of these
two schools, we think quarterbacks and and offense. And they're
both primarily led by their defense, which is a topic
we're getting used to talking about around here. But yeah,
and uh, and so you're exactly right, I think this
is gonna be You know, we saw the Lake Travis
Dripping Springs game. How low scoring that was last week,

(11:51):
but it should be fun. Yeah, you mentioned can't Sam plus.
They've changed the schedule. That game's gonna start at seven
o'clock and they're gonna do the Drew Brees jersey. I
thought when you said the most surprising thing about that
is that Drew Brees is coming back to Austin.

Speaker 3 (12:05):
That doesn't happen very often. But they're going to have the.

Speaker 4 (12:10):
Jersey retirement ceremony at six point thirty now on KYGSAN Plus.
Then they'll kick it at seven. I know some schools
are making some adjustments because of what they think will
be some weather coming in later in the evening. So yeah,
you can watch all that on KYK SAM Plus. And
I'm old enough to remember not only Drew Brees' state championship,

(12:30):
but the year before when he broke his leg in
the playoffs in ninety five, or they might have had
a great chance at going.

Speaker 3 (12:36):
Back to back.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
No, you're right, you're right about that, and I had
the pleasure call in that state championship game when they
beat Ablne Cooper at Texas Stadium in ninety six.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
But yeah, it's a long time ago. Yeah, probably the
trivia question.

Speaker 1 (12:47):
The only former quarterback who played football here in the
Greater Austin area who comes back to Austin less frequently
than Drew Brees is Chris Simms, I would say probably.

Speaker 3 (13:00):
And and Sim's good didn't grow up here.

Speaker 4 (13:03):
So yeah, and that's cool that that he's coming back
and he's gonna do the ceremony, and what a coincidence
he's you know, lock to go into the Hall of Fame,
uh this coming summer next summer rather, So Yeah, that's
that's pretty cool that he's he's gonna come back and
he's you know, he's the guy that that you know,
got all that quarterbacks like Lake Travis, Todd Reesing was

(13:26):
kind of the first one, and that long incredible line
of quarterbacks. So h should be hopefully the weather will
be at least so they can you know, play the
game without without interruption tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (13:36):
Well, you're right, there are there are schools that move
I know, the Vista Ridge Maynor game is being moved
forward to six o'clock, so there are a lot of
folks keeping guys on the weather a right. The other
two games of interest tonight for folks to take note
of and I'm gonna get to your game in a moment.
Over at House Park at seven point thirty, you have
Eastside Early College playing Taylor, and I know that's gonna

(13:57):
fly under the radar for most people. U LB is
obviously the team to beat in that district. Taylor is
unbeaten in the district. East Side is having this incredibly
unexpected landmark year where the Panthers are six and two.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
They're three and one in the district.

Speaker 1 (14:11):
But they pretty much have to win that game over
Taylor if they're gonna get in the playoffs because new
Tech had beaten east Side and they have the tiebreaker
there and you know east Side closes with LBJ, so
that's gonna be difficult after an open date next week.
So that's one of those playoffs to get into the
playoffs types of games.

Speaker 2 (14:27):
You always like having those.

Speaker 1 (14:29):
And then the other thing is the game you have
Rodger and that's and that's Anderson and Hayes. And Anderson
breaking into the top ten rankings this week at number
nine as they get ready to take on Hayes on
the road.

Speaker 3 (14:40):
Yeah, what a story.

Speaker 4 (14:41):
And Donald Hatcher, they not only are undefeated, but they
got some really good district wins already under their belt.

Speaker 3 (14:48):
They've taken care of both the.

Speaker 4 (14:50):
A and M Consolidated and College Station beat both of
those teams.

Speaker 3 (14:55):
And you know they're giving up just over.

Speaker 4 (14:57):
Thirteen points per game, and that that game Adam Consolidated
was fifty to forty two and five overtimes, So you
take that defensive number away and it's it's really incredible
what they've done. And Caleb Crenshaw's good chance. He goes
for two thousand yards this season. And you know Coke
Darbyshire replays as Max Kirlik and you thought, wow, you
lose a quarterback to Utsa. But he's been really good

(15:20):
and we saw him on opening night against McCallum. So
tough for Hayes. They lost their quarterback to Coma Ames.
He was really exciting when that We had that forty
two to forty one game when they lost to Hendrickson.
So kind of tough sledding lately for the Hayes Hawks
and their coach Mark torres Is.

Speaker 1 (15:40):
And obviously Hayes is really in must win territory now,
trying to get the thick of the fight back into
that is your kick at seven tonight seven thirty seven
thirty okay, all right, and then.

Speaker 3 (15:52):
When we get down thirty five.

Speaker 1 (15:53):
And then you have two slam bang games, do you
not to close out the regular season coming up?

Speaker 4 (16:02):
Yeah? Well, vis to Huddo next week and Huddle of
course has got Vandergriff tomorrow night to try to stay
undefeated in district play and then we're going to close
it out with Anderson and Weiss, and great chance that's
for you know, a district championship in a couple of weeks.
So we've taken on lumps the last couple of weeks
with one side of games, but hopefully tonight we should

(16:25):
have an exciting ball game down at Bob Shelton. And
then however they turn out the next two weeks, we
know what's on the line in those games, and that's
always fun, especially on Thursday when you know we don't
have a run of the schedule to pick from.

Speaker 1 (16:39):
Well, and I will say this for folks who say
Anderson Weiss is it just for a gold ball?

Speaker 2 (16:44):
No, think about this.

Speaker 1 (16:46):
In five eighty one that's going to be for playoff
seeding and a home playoff game in the first round.
So I think that's kind of important there that whoever
wins that district title. And even though A and M
consolidated still has a mathematical shot, it's it's really coming
down to Anderson and Weiss, and whoever wins that game
the final week of the regular season, good chance they're

(17:08):
going to be at home hosting a by district playoff game.

Speaker 4 (17:11):
Yeah. Kind of a contrast and options there with Venerable
House Park and in the field. I assume that's where
Anderson would host, would be at House Park. Uh.

Speaker 3 (17:21):
But yeah, and and just what a story.

Speaker 4 (17:23):
I mean, you know, we we we latch onto these
AISD stories when they happened. We saw McCallum several years
ago make that run. Obviously LBJ has had their turn. Boo.
He's you know, gotten into the playoffs a little bit.
I can remember way back Northeast College Prep when they
were Reagan. Uh they went to the Final four. And
now it sure looks like Anderson might have the kind

(17:44):
of team that can do a little bit of damage.

Speaker 2 (17:46):
No doubt about it.

Speaker 1 (17:47):
He's Roger Rowlves You can watch that telecast tonight with
Roger and Keith Morland.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
Uh is is Lee going on the sidelines for you tonight.

Speaker 3 (17:56):
Oh okay, first foray into Bob Sutton Stadium.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
There you go, there you go.

Speaker 1 (18:02):
That is tonight at seven thirty, so it'll be Anderson
at hayes Hey.

Speaker 2 (18:08):
Rogers.

Speaker 1 (18:08):
Appreciate the time. See on the plane tomorrow morning. Mark,
all right, that's Roger Wallace. It's actually early to morrow
afternoon when we fly out to two below. All right,
coming up, we'll hear from Brian Schottenheim or the Cowboys
head coach whill we continue on thirteen under the zone
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