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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Greg Way, thanks very much for joining us. I know
it was that the Express can we all love the
Express and enjoy hearing our Ryland Cobra describe the action.
But even Ryland, I'm sure didn't have an awful lot
of fun today. It was a fifteen to one win
for the Oklahoma City comments in winning that game. But
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they'll be back at it tomorrow night. That's a great
thing about major League baseball or minor league baseball, full
season baseball. As you got you have another day, you
can come right back the next day. In most cases
except on Monday. They don't play on Mondays in the
Pacific Coast League, but we are Mondays through Friday, and
glad to have you with us this afternoon. We of
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course includes a producer, Cameron D. Parker. The D and
the birth certificate stands for Dallas, although we've n covered
other meanings and things due to some ambiguity voiced by
his relatives of late, but we'll go with D. And
how's your day been going?
Speaker 2 (01:01):
By the way, It's been good, Craig, you know, hopefully Okay.
See the basketball team the Thunder follows suit from their
minor league baseball team and the same result against Indiana
tomorrow night in Indiana, like the comments head today against
the round Rock Express, so we'll see. I feel like
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the schedule needs to be changed here because I feel
like two days in between games such a long time remembory.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
It used to be like three pray there'd be a
Sunday game and then you didn't have it till Thursday.
That's crazy. Yeah, they drive people nuts, as opposed to
Stanley Cup in the Stanley Cup Finals, by the way,
which wrapped up last night with the Florida Panthers making
it back to back Stanley Cupps the this year this
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year in the Stanley Cup Finals, and I think it
had something to do with the split between the networks
during the play off of Eastern and Western Conference and
NTNT having only these having exclusively the Stanley Cup Finals,
they had more time, an extra day or two year.
Normally it's every other night, every other night, but that's
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not how it was the last three games in the
NHL Stanley Cup Finals. But Florida Panthers make it back
to back, by the way, for those of you are
interested in such trivial things, it is the first time
in forty eight years or forty forty seven years. First
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time in forty seven years that the same two teams
met in back to back Stanley Cup finals, and it
was the Montreal Canadians who won both of those back
to back, beating in the Boston Ruins of both of
those cases. But anyway, so they did that. But yeah,
it's it used to be three days. It's actually like
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a little less little less compacted or elongated in the NBA.
But Game six of that series will be tomorrow night,
Indian I'm going to talk about that. Also, we'll keep
you updated on the College World Series. It looks like
it looks like the Chanta Clears of Coastal Carolina are
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going to be playing for the national championship. They're they're
up eight nothing on Louisville in the bottom of the fifth.
I think Louisville finally running out of pitching because they've
been playing elimination games since Sunday and I think they're
finally running out of pitching. And uh, Forbes pitch today
or did he pitch yesterday?
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Uh, it might have been yesterday, but not one hundred
percent certain of that.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
But anyway, Coastal Carolina's up eight nothing. It's in the
bottom of the did not pitch. He has not pitched today,
so okay, well it's a little late now to you know,
close the gate with the horse out out of the
out of the corral. UH coach up eight nothing. So
it looks like Sean Ta Clears will be playing for
the national championship tonight. LSU can clinch the other spot
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if they defeat Arkansas, which one again another shutout. And
they were listing the teams and since they went to
the super Regional formats starting in nineteen ninety nine, all
the teams that pitched back to back shutouts in the
College World Series and it happened like five times I think,
and one of the times was Texas in twenty fourteen
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a Reme. They won a one nothing game over UC
Irvine in an elimination game on a home run by CJ.
Hinehosa line drive homer and one one nothing. Then they
came back the next they played Louisville and Parker French
shut them out, so they did that. They ended up
losing in the semifinals. They beat Vanderbilt the next day
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and then but they were gonna have to beat them twice.
They ended up losing in ten innings on a slow
rolling ground ball. They got the winning home run home
in the bottom of the tenth for the Commodores in that.
All right, so we'll keep you update on on that.
We've got some NBA, got some NFL notes and some
college sports notes to get to as well. Glad to
have you with us on a Wednesday afternoon on thirteen
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under his own Okay, I said, we're gonna have some
basketball notes. How much of the coverage, because I'm sure
you probably weren't watching the game live, but how much
of the coverage, the highlights and after the did you
see from last night's Indiana Connecticut WNBA game.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
I admittedly I'm not into the WRID like I am
women's college basketball.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
You know, there's a lot of sports happening, So it's.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Kind of like it's a lot of sports happening, you know,
I'd divert my attention to a handful, and then there's
some that I'll keep in the back of my head
of like you know, you'll fall along from notifications and stuff. Right,
most of my WNBA following will come from notifications or
on Twitter if something's happening with Caitlin Clark, which he
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or too. It happened last night. I did not watch
the geame live. I did not watch too much. The
only thing I saw was that no suspensions came down.
But please, yeah, give me the rundown. Well, no suspensions
will come down. You're right.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
It was a pair really kind of scuffles, including one
that happened in the final minute of the game, and
three players got ejected. So it started in the third quarter.
You remember J. C. Sheldon, She played at Ohio State.
She played on the Ohio State team that lost to
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Texas and the Sweet sixteen and spoke Anne back in
twenty twenty two. I guess it was I was up
there to call that and she was their outstanding player
for Ohio State. JC Sheldon was, and Texas beat them
and eliminated them. Anyway, So she plays for Connecticut and
she's guarding Caitlin Clark, and Clark is kind of trying
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to work her way around the corner and Sheldon kind
of comes up to on her two type bumps her
and actually pokes her in the eye. Poked her in
the eye, so then she kind of recoils, does Clark,
and then she pushed Sheldon away, and then after that
Marina Maybray comes in and shoves her down to the floor.
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All right, So Clark, Maybray and Tina Charles, who got
into the Phray as well, all got technical fouls. Sheldon
got a Sheldon got a flagrant one. Ashley Gloss, the
official sit in the pool report after the game that
the contact made by Maybray did not rise to the
level of ejection or meet the criteria for flagrant too.
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I agree with that when you see he just kind
of shoves her, but it's not all right, so then
it goes on and then toward the end of the game,
Sophie Cunningham, who played for Missouri in fact played in
the NCAA tournament games and any when Karen Aston was
coaching in Texas beat Missou. Sophia Cunningham was an outstanding
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player for Missouri and she committed a hard foul on Sheldon.
Sheldon came down the floors under a minute to go
in the game, and clearly Sophie Cunningham was having her
teammates back. She was like defending Caitlin Clark, and she
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takes down Sheldon pretty hard with forty six seconds. I
mean she wraps both arms around so that's usually going
to be a flagrant too anyway, and then kind of
takes her down there and then all of a sudden
it goes into it. There was also an earlier technical
foul when Marina Maybury forciably not Kaitlyn Clark to the
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floor earlier, and now that's been upgraded to a flagrant too.
So anyway, they all got into each other's faces and
they had to be separated and all this other kind
of stuff. So here's how that is. It all came
down Sophia again, who was handed a flagrant two immediately
disqualified that was with forty six x A on the game,
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also was fined. Don't hear that often happened in a
WNBA unless you're an Jories, you know, But she was
fined in addition to the standard fine that comes with
earning a flagrant two. Marina Maybury, the Connecticut guard who
had the technical foul knocking Caitlin Clark to the floor,
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also had it upgraded to a flagrant two. You know, Clark,
Maybray and Charles Hall had gotten technical fouls on that
and Sheldon the flagrant one. So then after the game,
both the fever and the Sun's personnel were critical of
the officiating for allowing the game to kind of get
out of hand the tensions. Indiana coach Stephanie White said,
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everybody in the league is getting better except the officials.
It's going to earn her a fine. She said, started
talking to officials in the first quarter. We knew this
was going to happen. You could tell it was going
to happen. So they got to get control of They
got to be better.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
White has not been fine for her comments, according to
the league. So the Sun's the Connecticut Sun turned around.
They're playing the night against Phoenix, and the Fever will
play tomorrow night at Golden State playing the Valkyries. So anyway, yeah,
it got kind of Sheldon and Lindsay Allen, her teammate,
were deemed escalators in the incident on that breakaway layup thing.
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So yeah, it got It got pretty spicy last night
if you were seeing that.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
So watching the replay, now, how much of this do
you think is amplified because it's Caaitlyn Clark.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Oh, there's this has been talked about for some time,
especially whenever Caitlyn Clark. Whenever Let's see who does who
does angelies play? For the Sky plays for Chicago. Uh So,
whenever Indiana plays.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Made up a complete team and I could have said she,
uh played a womp rat, I could have said it
said yeah, the the Michigan Maidens or something, and you
would have been good with that.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Well, it's interesting, Craig, because when there's always a basketball discourse,
and maybe it stems a lot from from Twitter and
Shaq and Kenny and Chuck always defending their era, but
it's almost like the bad Boy Pistons, that era is
kind of romanticized because like, oh, you're gonna come down
the lane, We're gonna beat you up.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
But then because Bill Lambier was just a goon, he
was always looking to mix it up, and Rodman of course,
would never back down from anything. Who is the other guy?
Rick Mahorn was a guy who would mix it up
with He didn't care who was the Lakers guy that
Kurt Rambis. And it wasn't like every game where people
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were getting it. It wasn't like w W E. But it
feels like that's kind of romanticized. But yet on the
other side, this happens and it's like this is catastrophic
to the game of basketball. This needs to stay so
is it? Where are we at here? There seems to
be a fine line that no one can seem to navigate. Yeah,
and some of this has to go back to officiating
and how they may have to I don't know, have
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an upgrading of training on dealing with that, especially in
the WNBA, because they don't usually deal with a lot
of that, so they have to. Now I've got more
coming up. Will continue on thirteen under his own it's
tomorrow instead of Friday. Normally we'll do it on Friday
throughout the summer. It'll be tomorrow because we have Mike
Hardball Harts coming in to do it, and Mike has
to go out of town on Friday, so Hardball will
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be here tomorrow. Hards to do the music survey. He
did it three years ago, but he said he revamped his.
I think we all did. Even Cameron did his. Revamped
it and changed it and updated it and that sort
of thing. And I'm sure mine will be too once
I dive into it. But anyway, Mike Hardball Hargs takes
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the music survey tomorrow afternoon during the three o'clock our
did you find that Hall of Oes video? You were
talking about for Man Eater I did.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
I didn't see any sharks in it. But it was
so eighties. This hurts to watch.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
The eighties weren't that bad a decade? Was that I
had some of the best best years of my life
in the early eighties and and then in the mid eighties,
and really got working in the profession in the eighties,
and first of my kids were born in the eighties,
and uh so, yeah, you know, I know it was.
There's a lot that was good about it. On the
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text line, we had a couple of Carrie liked Sarah smiles, says, yeah,
that's a good one there. So that might be one
your dad liked from Hall of Oats. He might like
Sarah Smile. He might like she's gone that some of
the earlier stuff, knowing your dad's exhibited taste and in
a little more of a rock set and less of
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a pop set. And somebody else said, yeah, I saw
America at the old Backyard Venue many years ago. They
were just as good as the eight track, you know,
the drag tapes there. And so I said, I predict
that Harge will pick either Cult of Personality or shot
A For seven of the twelve answers, listen. He likes
all of that. But even Harge knows the rules. You
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can only list one one band or artist member per category,
and only one time. So he can't pick shot a
seven times or five times, or three times or even
two times, and only do it one time one time,
which makes it really difficult if you were a fan
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like I was, obviously the Beatles, and then of Wings
because Wings was completely separate band from the Beatles and
had their own incredible catalog. Doesn't matter Paul McCartney bridges
the gap. Therefore, can't pick both, can't have both on that.
So anyway, there's there's some of that, all right. So
I was talking to you about this. We started to
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talk a little bit. And by the way, updating the
College World Series game going on, Louisville did come back
with a three spot UH in the top of the
sixth but now it is Coastal up ninety three in
the bottom of the six as the chan Ta Clair's
that put a run back on the board as they
bat in the bottom half of the sixth inning there,
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So yeah, Coastal and UH looks like they're coasting and
and may soon wind up in the National Championship series. Okay,
when when you mentioned your your hope and I would
imagine building excitement, uh for the possibility of the Oklahoma
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City Thunder winning its first ever NBA championship. I understand
how to get that. And my youngest son is also
a big Thunder fan, so he'll be he'll be all
geared up about it and everything. Forget six tomorrow night.
You ever read the Athletic you ever get a chance
to read it? Of course, did you read the piece
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from Michael Sean Duggart today entitled as Thunder near NBA
title spurned Sonics fans can't forget what they lost seventeen
years ago? There you go. It's one of those pieces
that they did this for a while. I don't think
the first two Ravens' Super Bowl wins where they go
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back and visit with the disgruntled Cleveland fans on losing
the Browns to Baltimore. The genesis of this even goes
on back to when the Colts finally went in Indianapolis
and with Peyton manning in whatever it was two thousand
and six, I guess it was, and they went to
Baltimore and did a big thing on Colts fans who
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have never gotten over it, and it was their town
and their team and their time and all that stuff.
And they went back to back NFL titles in fifty
eight and fifty nine, and then of course one it
in sixty eight, only to be shocked by Joe Namath
and the Jets and Super Bowl three, and then won
a Super Bowl as the Baltimore Colt super Bowl five
when they beat the Cowboys, and so it was their team.
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But the owner, Robert Ursay and ends up packing up
the moving vans literally in the middle of the night
and moving them out during during a blizzard, during a snowstorm,
and driving them to Indianapolis. And a lot of folks
have never gotten over. There's some people that never got
over the Dodgers leaving Brooklyn or the Giants leaving New
York to go west. It happens when teams lose their
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franchise ask disenfranchised Oilers fans about their team moving to
Tennessee and ultimately becoming the Time. So anyway, it's a
pretty lengthy piece about Sonics fans who still have not
gotten over Clay Bennett moving the team two thousand and
eight and how bad it was unless we forget Kevin
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Durant won Rookie of the Year playing in Seattle as
a member of the Sonics in the six oh seven season.
His rookie season was spent as a member of the
Seattle SuperSonics before the Sonics were moved to to Okahoma City.
And there's all there's a lot of in depth to
tail about. Guys like Jack Sigmo played there. Obviously, Gary
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Payton in the in the nineties version that played the
Jordan led Bulls in the NBA Finals. But if you
go old school, back to the late seventies with Gus Johnson,
with Dennis Johnson, the late Dennis Johnson, who was great guy,
was the first Austin Spurs coach down here when they
were the Toros. Great guy was always accessible and and
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he tragically passed away of a heart attack. But those teams,
Vinnie Johnson, the Microwave they call him, who had played
at Baylor in college, and uh, you know all of
those guys that played on those Seattle teams, the ones
that went to the finals in seventy eight for the
first time, lost to the Washington then Bullets, then beat
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them in a rematch the next year in seventy nine,
and then they got to the finals. There was an
incredible I know Mavericks fans were remember, but a lot
of other fans won't remember this. There was an amazing
series that the Mavericks had with the Sonics the first
time Dallas ever made the playoffs in nineteen eighty four,
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and it was best of five in the first round
and they'd split the first four games. Game five was
due to be at Reunion Arena, but they couldn't play
it there because they had the WCT going on World
Championship Tennis, which was a big thing for time, and
my buddy Alex and I were actually working that WCT
event selling shirts and polo shirts and programs and stuff
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for WCT tennis, and so they had to play the
Mavericks Sonics decisive Game five at Moody Coliseum on the
SMU camp, I said, nine thousand. It's been known forever
in Dallas as the Moody Madness game, and fans went
crazy and the Mavericks I think we're down eight with
fifty two seconds left, and came back and won it.
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It was an incredible thing there. But the Sonics were
a playoff regular George carl was the coach when they
went to the NBA Finals and loss to the Michael
Jordan led Chicago Bulls. Lenny Wilkins coached the Sonics when
they won their one NBA title in nineteen seventy nine.
So it goes into a lot of those things and
how a lot of fans have never forgotten it. And
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when in the next round of NBA expansion comes around,
it is largely theorized that the two most likely candidates
for expansion are Las Vegas and Seattle, and they might
rebirth the Sonics again. That might happen again if they
come around and add to more teams. I hope so too.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Yeah, because obviously what happened with Howard Schultz who bought
the team and and ended up selling the team to owners.
To the owner Clay Bennett, who obviously had wanted to
move the team, wanted to relocate the team, and you know,
Schultz said no, no, they're going to keep in Seattle. Obviously
that wasn't true, and so and he.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Was, of course mister Starbucks, and and so in that
piece they talked about how they hate Howard Schultzen, hate
Clay Bennett, and all of that Clay Bennett, you know,
they knew he was going to move the team. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
So there's also a real good podcast too for those
of you who are really interested, and it's done by
the Ringer on the move to seat on the SuperSonics
and their offentual move to Okay see, but also kind
of what led to that and how it all started. Yeah,
really interesting, like six episode podcast. It's unfortunate, but you know,
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it's a reminder that while it is sports, there is.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
A business side and a nasty, ugly business side.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
But when we do get the next round of expansion
or will be a Las Vegas team that will be
half owned by Lebron James and there will be a
Seattle SuperSonics team that we'll be back in the league.
So excited for that. Yeah, hopefully that'll that'll be the case.
By the way, there's a group in there that you know,
different people will refer to themselves say, Look, I'm an
irrational fan, they said, but I hope Oklahoma City not
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only never wins with title.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
They don't. They don't deserve one, they don't deserve a parade,
they don't deserve rings. They said, I know that sounds irrational.
But but that's just how I feel or something like that. Uh,
this this has nothing to Oklahoma City fans were happy
to get they were thrilled to get a team. They
supported the Hornets really well. After the Hornets were temporarily
moved there following Katrina, they proved that they could support
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an NBA franchise and and so they did. And so
it's it's not about it's not about Oklahoma City. It's
a it's about, you know, an ownership, a group deciding
to move them. So, like you said, hopefully the Sonics
are and they said that even if that, if that happens,
Like there are several who have said that, even if
that happens in the next few months and it gets approved,
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they said, how painfully ironic will be if the thunder
has won the title that our team should have been
the one being celebrated, said that group is celebrated a
title and we have to start all over from scratch.
Does that sound familiar Brown's and Ravens because three seasons
after four seasons after the Browns left Cleveland for Baltimore,
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they won the Super Bowl. Well, a lot of those
bass players that started in Cleveland and Cleveland had to
start from scratch and they still have never been to
a Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
And ironic part of it too is you mentioned Hurricane
Kontrina that forced the at the time the New Orleans
Hornets to play somewhere else and ended up being okay see,
okay see. Had been lobbying David Stern to bring a
team to Oklahoma City, and after all this had happened,
you know, Stern had told the mayor or the governor
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Oklahoma that like, yeah, y'all would be great for a
hockey team, but not the NBA. And ultimately, of course
what happened to Howard Schultz and Clay Bennett kind of
softened David Stearns's stance. But for a while he did
not want a team in Okase But eventually it kind
of unfolded and here we are.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
Yeah, he's pleased with it. He was pleased with it
to the end. Stern was at the end of his life,
but you know, he was very, very adamant saying this
is a temporary move. When the Hornets moved to Oklahoma
City in the aftermath of Katrina, he said, this team
will not be staying here permanently. As soon as New
Orleans gets back on its feet and get a new arena.
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As soon as they do that, they are going back
to New Orleans, which is what they did. All right,
we'll be back to wrap up hour number one on
thirteen under the Zone final hour of the program. We
brought you the Round Rock Express game in the first
hour that went into the first hour of the program,
the Express falling to Oklahoma City as they also the
Commets fifteen to one was that final score. They'll way
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back at it tomorrow night. I think it's a six
game series that they're playing in ok okc at the
Chickasaw Bricktown ball Park. Greig Way alongside the producer Cameron Parker,
who called some Express games filling in last year at
the Chickasaw Breakdown Ballpark in oklahom See, that's how you
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became acquainted with Nick Grill. Yes, that was Next Grill.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
That was That was also when Texas was playing Oklahoma
and the Women's College World Series.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Yeah, funny enough.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
I went to the semi final game where I saw
Texas defeat Stanford one nothing, where Najorie Kennedy was so
the picture for Stanford. Texas won that game one nothing.
That was a fun atmosphere, and then the last two
games weren't so fun. And I distinctly remember when Oklahoma
clintch the Women's College World Series.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
I was on the air and Boomer.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Sooner Champ broke out at Chickasaw Breakdown Ballpark. Okay, it
wasn't very thrilled with that, but you know, you got
to be professional, right.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
So if the comments were at home when the long
Horns went last week, got doubt there was chants of
Texas fi Taxa coming up a us that ballpark there
at the time. There were plenty of times in the
past when the Big Twelve Tournament was there when that happened.
Texas won it there in two thousand and three, beating
Baylor and a walk off in the bottom of the tenth,
a two run homer from Curtis thig Pin, the runner
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who was on base at the time for Texas that game.
Great trivia question, Houston Street. Oh really he was on there, Yeah,
he was on there. He played some third base in
addition to when he was on the mountain. And they
won there in two thousand and three. They won again
there in two thousand and eight and nine, back to
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back eight That was the story we were telling last
week about Keith Morland and I on our way to
the airport and we got a call saying because it
was pool play and the unexpected it happened in the
pool thing and the tie breaks, and we should come back.
So we did and Texas won that one. Brandon Belt
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was the outstanding player of that tournament when they beat
Kansas State fifteen to seven in the final. And then
the next year nine they beat Missouri. That was actually
the year of the turnaround and come back because it
was Missouri that was getting in there by beating Texas,
A and M so they and I think it was
Brandon Loy who was the outstanding player in that tournament
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for Texas, and then of course they wanted in Tulsa
in twenty fifteen to get in there. Texas I think
had the most big twelve conference tournament championships that may
have since been surpassed or equal by maybe TCU or
Oklahoma State, I'm not sure, but they wanted in two
in Arlington when they had what is now known as
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Choccaw Stadium, it was the old Rangers Ballpark in Arlington.
That the year they went on and won the national Championship.
They wanted in two, they wanted to three in Oklahoma City,
they wanted in eight and nine in Oklahoma City in
fifteen until they won it five times, So they definitely
had to run there. King of postseason baseball College World
Series now down to what's direct the level, what's called
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the bracket championships because they're down to their final four.
So if you're think of a final four final four
in basketball this year, who's in the final for Florida
Auburn duke? Who am I leaving out? Who did duke beaten?
The other? Sub fight Houston, Florida Auburn duke in Houston
and Florida won the national championship over duke. That was
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in basketball football Ohio State, Texas, Notre Dame, Notre Dame,
and then who is the fourth Georgia Ray Notre Dame
beat Georgia in the Sugar Bowl of Penn State. Yeah,
it was because Penn State had beaten SMU I guess
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so yeah. Anyway, so that was in the final four
for college football in Texas. Is whatever been in the
final four of the past two year years? It was
Notre Dame in Penn State? Pretty sure, right? And then
Penn State won, and then does Notre Dame beat Georgia,
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then Penn statedy bet Boise State. That's after Notre Dame
beat Penn State.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Yeah, because that was when Drowler threw that real bad
interception to kind of ice the game for Notre Dame.
Then of course we all we know what happened on
the Texas. We don't have to rehash that. We're going there,
all right.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
So so anyway, that was your final four in football,
Ohio State, Texas, Notre Dame, Penn State.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
And you know it's the basketball side, all one seeds,
right for the first time since.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
Yeah, I think it only happened. It's only happened a
couple of times. Yeah, that all ones made it.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
On the football side, And of course this will be
completely different now that the formatch change versus words. It
will be the top four teams with the top four
seats versus the top four conference champions. The lowest seed
was Texas at five. Well, howse State was an eight seed,
Penn State a six, lad even a seven. So the
one seed loss Oregon, the two seed loss Georgia. Of
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course they didn't have Carson back. Boise State, the three
seed loss and then Arizona State.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
If you say it in verse it, Texas was the
highest seedeed remaining at number five seed. All right, and
so your final four for baseball college baseball, your final
four are Coastal Carolina, Louisville, LSU, and Arkansas. Now, I
think most folks probably would have guests LSU in Arkansas.
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Maybe a few that had a lot of wisdom about
Coastal Carolina. Our friend Ty Harrington among those who's been
really riding high on the Chanticleers, might have been able
to pick that. Nobody would have picked Louisville. Do you
realize yesterday when Louisville eliminated Oregon State, that was only
their forty second win of the year. That's crazy to
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think about. Texas won forty four games and got eliminated
at the regional level, not only at You would think
that teams in the College World Series, especially once they
reach the semifinal round, are going to be at least
twenty five close to thirty wins over five hundred. At
least Texas wound up thirty over five hundred, forty four
and fourteen. You would think it would be that they're
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nineteen above five hundred. They're forty two and twenty three.
They're going to finish forty two and twenty four because
right now in the eight inning, it is ten three
Coastal Carolina, but Louisville got hot at the right time
and they wound up, you know, getting all the way
into the final four. Tonight LSU will play Arkansas. If
LSU wins, it'll be LSU against Coastal Carolina again. I'm
assuming coast is going to hold on. They're up ten
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to three and the eighth inning. But tonight LSU and Arkansas.
If Arkansas wins, those two have to plate one more
time tomorrow. I'm sure Coastal's hoping for whoever they play,
they have to play one more time tomorrow. You some
more of that pitching, because LSU, like Coastal, is only
going into its third starting pitcher right now. All right,
we've got more coming up here. On thirteen under the zone,
Coastal Carolina is coasting. They lead Louisville eleven to three
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in the bottom of the eighth inning, and so the
Chanticleer is about to qualify for their second National Championship appearance.
Back in twenty sixteen, nine years ago, they won the
whole thing, won the title, beat Arizona to win that
national title, and they're gonna be back in there. They
are a seeded team, it's just they were seated thirteenth nashally,
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and there were a lot of folks who thought they
were under seed underseated. Kyle Peterson among them. He thought
that Coastal and Oregon State would be the main combatants,
if you will, for the number eight or number nine
national seat. Well, Oregon State got the eight, but Florida
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State was given to the nine. Coastal was the thirteen.
So Coastal wins its regional. Then they go to Auburn
to play the four seed. They sweep Auburn now and
then going to Omaha, and they have not dropped the
game in Omaha, and it doesn't look like they're going
to drop one going into the national Championship. They're up
eleven to three in the bottom of the eighth. There
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was an interesting graphic that ESPN had up just a
few minutes ago, and it was longest win streak for
teams entering the championship round of the Men's College World Series.
The longest win streak. Now, this goes all the way
back to the very Let's see, was it the first
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It was the second year of the tournament that the
College World Series started in nineteen forty seven. In forty eight,
USC won one of its twelve national championships. They went
into the championship round with an eighteen game winning streak.
In nineteen ninety five, Kyle State fullerd and coach by
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Augie Garrido went in with a seventeen game winning streak
and ended up winning it. In two thousand and one,
Miami went in with a sixteen game winning streak they
won it, and in nineteen sixty five, Arizona State went
into it with a sixteen game winning streak. Coastal Carolina
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is about to have a twenty six game winning streak
going into the National Championship round a twenty six game
winning streak. I'm not saying they're gonna win it because
I've said all along. People asked me who I thought
was the best team that was when the eight teams arrived,
who I thought was the best team there? And I
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said it was either going to be Arkansas or LSU.
Arkansas thought looked like the most complete team. I thought
that LSU had better pitching. Both teams could really clamber
the ball. I said, those two teams are the best teams.
Maybe Arkansas, Arkansas's the best, whatever, but I knew Coast
was good. And like I said, Ty Harrington talked about
them throughout the course of the season, said they're really,
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really good and they're proving it. So now they're going
to the bottom of the ninth and the Chanta Clears
are three outs away from winding up in the National
Championship Game. They are that close to winning this thing now.
And as always, like I say, we're happy to welcome
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your questions, your thoughts, your comments on the text line,
so he said, I still have by Gus Williams poster
in my locker on g Hall. Gus Williams played for
the Sonics. Sonics won that title in nineteen seventy nine.
That franchise, as we know it, is going for its
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first NBA World title since then since nineteen seventy nine.
Tomorrow night, when the now reconstituted Oklahoma City Thunder, we'll
try to wrap up the NBA Finals in six games
against the Indiana Pacers. The Pacers have never won an
NBA title either, and they're trying to become the first
team in pro basketball history. It's important to make this
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delineation to really make sure folks understand what I'm talking
about here. It will be they're trying to become the
first team to win a world championship, so to speak,
or at least a title in the ABA and one
in the NBA. And before you jumped too say wait, wait, wait,
what about the Spurs. Spurs never won an ABA title. Now,
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the Spurs were only in the league because they were
the Dallas Chaparrals. They were the ancestral franchise of the
San Antonio Spurs. Was the Dallas Chaparrals that played the
old Dallas Memorial Auditorium downtown. That's where I worked at
Kiss concert when we were talking about Kiss the other day,
I can. And that's also where the Beatles played in
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nineteen sixty five, but they also played at Moody Coliseum
in the SMU campus. They had one year where they
were called the Texas Chaparrals. They played some games in
Fort Worth of the old Terran County Convention Center and
even played some games in Lubbock, but they were mainly
the Dallas Chaparrals. They were a charter member franchise of
the ABA, but in nineteen seventy two, seventy three, No,
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it was seventy three. The seventy three seventy four season
was their first year in San Antonio, and they never
won an ABA title because they were only in the
ABA seventy three, seventy four, seventy five, seventy six. They
had four seasons. I guess it was it, and they
were maybe only three seasons, but anyway, they were only
in the ABA for like three seasons, never won an
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ABA title. Obviously won four NBA titles. The Denver Nuggets
won an NBA title two years ago, they never won
an ABA title. The Nets who won ABA titles have
never won an NBA title. They got in the finals
that one time when they had Jason Kidd and lost
in the finals to the Lakers. And you have the
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Indiana Pacers, who won more ABA titles than any other franchise.
I think they won four. They never won an NBA title.
But their backshit to the wall. They have to win
tonight to get it to a seventh game back in
Oklahoma City on Sunday. But again that's tomorrow night. We'll
let more breakdown on that coming up. We'll continue on
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thirteen under the Zone. I have a quick, funny little
story for you here, Craig. Yeah, so this week is
the Travelers Championship, right the final centature event of the
PGA Tour before they get ready for the Open Championship
in the PGA Tour playoff. Anyway, this past weekend, obviously
JJ spawn with an incredible victory at Oakmont. A couple
of long horns in the field that we're you know,
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Scottie Scheffler, Jordan's b playing on Sunday. Well, I guess
the Speed and Schefflers were staying together, and we're gonna
say together Oakmont, and then I guess in Cromwell, Connecticut
for the Travelers this week, so outside Hartford, Speed finishes
round before the rain delay got in. Actually I think
like maybe fifteen to twenty minutes, right before the airhorn
and sounded so and Scotty Scheffler was still playing on
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the front nine. So speaking Brewller decided, you know what,
let's watch the final round. Where did they go? Buffalo
wild wings? Uh? And Spee said, I.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
Don't usually drink after a round, especially when I'm getting
ready to play the next day, but after the Sunday
of the US opened. I needed to knock back a
few beers. So he did that and watched went to
B Dubs and the Beat Ubs and watched the final
round from an undisclosed beat ubs in in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania,
so or maybe outside of Pittsburgh. So if you were
up there and you thought you saw Jordan's beat the
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Michael Grewler out of beat Ubs drinking some mcultrist in
there you go.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
You did. I thought you were going to say that.
They went back to the house that they were sharing
with the Schefflers. And then after Scotty got down and
came and said, hey, who ate the last part of
the ham there for the ham? Sam? Or who took
the last piece of Cocona cream pie or something like that.
Don't you're gonna say something like that. We've been talking
a lot about the NBA today and the and we
(40:00):
all know that the NBA TV contract is changing. The
Eastern Conference finals were the last ones on TNT for
the foreseeable future. Really inside the NBA is moving the
espnxcs and that there are some who say that it
won't be quite the same as the way you've become
(40:22):
used to seeing it. That part we know, and we
know obviously that the NBA signed these eleven year contracts
with Disney, Amazon and NBC and it's worth a total
of seventy five billion dollars seventy five billion with Disney,
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Amazon and NBC, and that next year the NBA will
have two new viewing homes, larger presence and broadcast television,
is reported in The Athletic Today, and the option to
stream any nationally televised game. So that's a good thing.
It'll represent, according to the article, a profound adjustment and
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how fans can watch games. Now I knew all that, well,
I didn't know about the streaming, but I knew a
lot of the other stuff. What I did not know
maybe I just flap missed it and glossed over. You
tell me if you knew this game this postseason was
the last time that local regional sports networks.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
Were able to broadcast the first round of the playoffs.
I don't think I knew that.
Speaker 1 (41:34):
Next year, every round is nationally televised. Every game of
every round is nationally televised. So for those of you
who enjoyed watching the Spurs, well, if they get back
to the playoffs. You know, when the day comes, you
won't see them on a regional network. For those of
you who enjoyed watching Mark Folowell on the Mavericks telecast,
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you will not see them doing doing TV. For those
of you, who's the Who's the thunder? Uh TV play
by place? A young guy they brought in, Yeah, and
they got rid of him because he is faux pah,
forgot who he is. But Jason Way, he likes him.
He thinks he's better than Brian Davis. I don't know
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Chris Fisher all right, those of you who saw Chris
Fisher or whatever, and you're not going to get to
see him when they get to the playoffs. Every round
of the playoffs will be nationally televised. Now that's kind
of a good thing, really, because you might not have
been able to see if you wanted a first round
game between Atlanta and Orlando, or the Clippers and the
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Jazz or something like that, unless you add maybe the
NBA TV package, or if you had and I've had
the NBA TV package, I don't even know if I
got those those first round playoff games. UH NBA TV
kind of cherry picks and things like that. Now every
game will be available, so I guess that's a good thing.
But if you're used to your hometown announcer doing that,
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it's not going to happen. It just won't happen. Of course,
I was used to it in calling long worn football
games on the radio. That the way they if, it's
kind of an inverse when they got the semifinals and
they did what was called what the hometown broadcast whatever
and put our broadcast on. So that was a nice thing.
But of course Texas. With Texas, every game is nationally
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televised now, every single one. We'll be back to wrap
up the day on thirteen under the Zone
Greg Way, thanks very much for joining us. I know
it was that the Express can we all love the
Express and enjoy hearing our Ryland Cobra describe the action.
But even Ryland, I'm sure didn't have an awful lot
of fun today. It was a fifteen to one win
for the Oklahoma City comments in winning that game. But
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they'll be back at it tomorrow night. That's a great
thing about major League baseball or minor league baseball, full
season baseball. As you got you have another day, you
can come right back the next day. In most cases
except on Monday. They don't play on Mondays in the
Pacific Coast League, but we are Mondays through Friday, and
glad to have you with us this afternoon. We of
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course includes a producer, Cameron D. Parker. The D and
the birth certificate stands for Dallas, although we've n covered
other meanings and things due to some ambiguity voiced by
his relatives of late, but we'll go with D. And
how's your day been going?
Speaker 2 (01:01):
By the way, It's been good, Craig, you know, hopefully Okay.
See the basketball team the Thunder follows suit from their
minor league baseball team and the same result against Indiana
tomorrow night in Indiana, like the comments head today against
the round Rock Express, so we'll see. I feel like
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the schedule needs to be changed here because I feel
like two days in between games such a long time remembory.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
It used to be like three pray there'd be a
Sunday game and then you didn't have it till Thursday.
That's crazy. Yeah, they drive people nuts, as opposed to
Stanley Cup in the Stanley Cup Finals, by the way,
which wrapped up last night with the Florida Panthers making
it back to back Stanley Cupps the this year this
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year in the Stanley Cup Finals, and I think it
had something to do with the split between the networks
during the play off of Eastern and Western Conference and
NTNT having only these having exclusively the Stanley Cup Finals,
they had more time, an extra day or two year.
Normally it's every other night, every other night, but that's
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not how it was the last three games in the
NHL Stanley Cup Finals. But Florida Panthers make it back
to back, by the way, for those of you are
interested in such trivial things, it is the first time
in forty eight years or forty forty seven years. First
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time in forty seven years that the same two teams
met in back to back Stanley Cup finals, and it
was the Montreal Canadians who won both of those back
to back, beating in the Boston Ruins of both of
those cases. But anyway, so they did that. But yeah,
it's it used to be three days. It's actually like
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a little less little less compacted or elongated in the NBA.
But Game six of that series will be tomorrow night,
Indian I'm going to talk about that. Also, we'll keep
you updated on the College World Series. It looks like
it looks like the Chanta Clears of Coastal Carolina are
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going to be playing for the national championship. They're they're
up eight nothing on Louisville in the bottom of the fifth.
I think Louisville finally running out of pitching because they've
been playing elimination games since Sunday and I think they're
finally running out of pitching. And uh, Forbes pitch today
or did he pitch yesterday?
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Uh, it might have been yesterday, but not one hundred
percent certain of that.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
But anyway, Coastal Carolina's up eight nothing. It's in the
bottom of the did not pitch. He has not pitched today,
so okay, well it's a little late now to you know,
close the gate with the horse out out of the
out of the corral. UH coach up eight nothing. So
it looks like Sean Ta Clears will be playing for
the national championship tonight. LSU can clinch the other spot
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if they defeat Arkansas, which one again another shutout. And
they were listing the teams and since they went to
the super Regional formats starting in nineteen ninety nine, all
the teams that pitched back to back shutouts in the
College World Series and it happened like five times I think,
and one of the times was Texas in twenty fourteen
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a Reme. They won a one nothing game over UC
Irvine in an elimination game on a home run by CJ.
Hinehosa line drive homer and one one nothing. Then they
came back the next they played Louisville and Parker French
shut them out, so they did that. They ended up
losing in the semifinals. They beat Vanderbilt the next day
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and then but they were gonna have to beat them twice.
They ended up losing in ten innings on a slow
rolling ground ball. They got the winning home run home
in the bottom of the tenth for the Commodores in that.
All right, so we'll keep you update on on that.
We've got some NBA, got some NFL notes and some
college sports notes to get to as well. Glad to
have you with us on a Wednesday afternoon on thirteen
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under his own Okay, I said, we're gonna have some
basketball notes. How much of the coverage, because I'm sure
you probably weren't watching the game live, but how much
of the coverage, the highlights and after the did you
see from last night's Indiana Connecticut WNBA game.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
I admittedly I'm not into the WRID like I am
women's college basketball.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
You know, there's a lot of sports happening, So it's.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Kind of like it's a lot of sports happening, you know,
I'd divert my attention to a handful, and then there's
some that I'll keep in the back of my head
of like you know, you'll fall along from notifications and stuff. Right,
most of my WNBA following will come from notifications or
on Twitter if something's happening with Caitlin Clark, which he
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or too. It happened last night. I did not watch
the geame live. I did not watch too much. The
only thing I saw was that no suspensions came down.
But please, yeah, give me the rundown. Well, no suspensions
will come down. You're right.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
It was a pair really kind of scuffles, including one
that happened in the final minute of the game, and
three players got ejected. So it started in the third quarter.
You remember J. C. Sheldon, She played at Ohio State.
She played on the Ohio State team that lost to
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Texas and the Sweet sixteen and spoke Anne back in
twenty twenty two. I guess it was I was up
there to call that and she was their outstanding player
for Ohio State. JC Sheldon was, and Texas beat them
and eliminated them. Anyway, So she plays for Connecticut and
she's guarding Caitlin Clark, and Clark is kind of trying
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to work her way around the corner and Sheldon kind
of comes up to on her two type bumps her
and actually pokes her in the eye. Poked her in
the eye, so then she kind of recoils, does Clark,
and then she pushed Sheldon away, and then after that
Marina Maybray comes in and shoves her down to the floor.
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All right, So Clark, Maybray and Tina Charles, who got
into the Phray as well, all got technical fouls. Sheldon
got a Sheldon got a flagrant one. Ashley Gloss, the
official sit in the pool report after the game that
the contact made by Maybray did not rise to the
level of ejection or meet the criteria for flagrant too.
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I agree with that when you see he just kind
of shoves her, but it's not all right, so then
it goes on and then toward the end of the game,
Sophie Cunningham, who played for Missouri in fact played in
the NCAA tournament games and any when Karen Aston was
coaching in Texas beat Missou. Sophia Cunningham was an outstanding
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player for Missouri and she committed a hard foul on Sheldon.
Sheldon came down the floors under a minute to go
in the game, and clearly Sophie Cunningham was having her
teammates back. She was like defending Caitlin Clark, and she
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takes down Sheldon pretty hard with forty six seconds. I
mean she wraps both arms around so that's usually going
to be a flagrant too anyway, and then kind of
takes her down there and then all of a sudden
it goes into it. There was also an earlier technical
foul when Marina Maybury forciably not Kaitlyn Clark to the
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floor earlier, and now that's been upgraded to a flagrant too.
So anyway, they all got into each other's faces and
they had to be separated and all this other kind
of stuff. So here's how that is. It all came
down Sophia again, who was handed a flagrant two immediately
disqualified that was with forty six x A on the game,
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also was fined. Don't hear that often happened in a
WNBA unless you're an Jories, you know, But she was
fined in addition to the standard fine that comes with
earning a flagrant two. Marina Maybury, the Connecticut guard who
had the technical foul knocking Caitlin Clark to the floor,
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also had it upgraded to a flagrant two. You know, Clark,
Maybray and Charles Hall had gotten technical fouls on that
and Sheldon the flagrant one. So then after the game,
both the fever and the Sun's personnel were critical of
the officiating for allowing the game to kind of get
out of hand the tensions. Indiana coach Stephanie White said,
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everybody in the league is getting better except the officials.
It's going to earn her a fine. She said, started
talking to officials in the first quarter. We knew this
was going to happen. You could tell it was going
to happen. So they got to get control of They
got to be better.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
White has not been fine for her comments, according to
the league. So the Sun's the Connecticut Sun turned around.
They're playing the night against Phoenix, and the Fever will
play tomorrow night at Golden State playing the Valkyries. So anyway, yeah,
it got kind of Sheldon and Lindsay Allen, her teammate,
were deemed escalators in the incident on that breakaway layup thing.
(10:30):
So yeah, it got It got pretty spicy last night
if you were seeing that.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
So watching the replay, now, how much of this do
you think is amplified because it's Caaitlyn Clark.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Oh, there's this has been talked about for some time,
especially whenever Caitlyn Clark. Whenever Let's see who does who
does angelies play? For the Sky plays for Chicago. Uh So,
whenever Indiana plays.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Made up a complete team and I could have said she,
uh played a womp rat, I could have said it
said yeah, the the Michigan Maidens or something, and you
would have been good with that.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Well, it's interesting, Craig, because when there's always a basketball discourse,
and maybe it stems a lot from from Twitter and
Shaq and Kenny and Chuck always defending their era, but
it's almost like the bad Boy Pistons, that era is
kind of romanticized because like, oh, you're gonna come down
the lane, We're gonna beat you up.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
But then because Bill Lambier was just a goon, he
was always looking to mix it up, and Rodman of course,
would never back down from anything. Who is the other guy?
Rick Mahorn was a guy who would mix it up
with He didn't care who was the Lakers guy that
Kurt Rambis. And it wasn't like every game where people
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were getting it. It wasn't like w W E. But it
feels like that's kind of romanticized. But yet on the
other side, this happens and it's like this is catastrophic
to the game of basketball. This needs to stay so
is it? Where are we at here? There seems to
be a fine line that no one can seem to navigate. Yeah,
and some of this has to go back to officiating
and how they may have to I don't know, have
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an upgrading of training on dealing with that, especially in
the WNBA, because they don't usually deal with a lot
of that, so they have to. Now I've got more
coming up. Will continue on thirteen under his own it's
tomorrow instead of Friday. Normally we'll do it on Friday
throughout the summer. It'll be tomorrow because we have Mike
Hardball Harts coming in to do it, and Mike has
to go out of town on Friday, so Hardball will
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be here tomorrow. Hards to do the music survey. He
did it three years ago, but he said he revamped his.
I think we all did. Even Cameron did his. Revamped
it and changed it and updated it and that sort
of thing. And I'm sure mine will be too once
I dive into it. But anyway, Mike Hardball Hargs takes
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the music survey tomorrow afternoon during the three o'clock our
did you find that Hall of Oes video? You were
talking about for Man Eater I did.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
I didn't see any sharks in it. But it was
so eighties. This hurts to watch.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
The eighties weren't that bad a decade? Was that I
had some of the best best years of my life
in the early eighties and and then in the mid eighties,
and really got working in the profession in the eighties,
and first of my kids were born in the eighties,
and uh so, yeah, you know, I know it was.
There's a lot that was good about it. On the
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text line, we had a couple of Carrie liked Sarah smiles, says, yeah,
that's a good one there. So that might be one
your dad liked from Hall of Oats. He might like
Sarah Smile. He might like she's gone that some of
the earlier stuff, knowing your dad's exhibited taste and in
a little more of a rock set and less of
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a pop set. And somebody else said, yeah, I saw
America at the old Backyard Venue many years ago. They
were just as good as the eight track, you know,
the drag tapes there. And so I said, I predict
that Harge will pick either Cult of Personality or shot
A For seven of the twelve answers, listen. He likes
all of that. But even Harge knows the rules. You
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can only list one one band or artist member per category,
and only one time. So he can't pick shot a
seven times or five times, or three times or even
two times, and only do it one time one time,
which makes it really difficult if you were a fan
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like I was, obviously the Beatles, and then of Wings
because Wings was completely separate band from the Beatles and
had their own incredible catalog. Doesn't matter Paul McCartney bridges
the gap. Therefore, can't pick both, can't have both on that.
So anyway, there's there's some of that, all right. So
I was talking to you about this. We started to
(15:01):
talk a little bit. And by the way, updating the
College World Series game going on, Louisville did come back
with a three spot UH in the top of the
sixth but now it is Coastal up ninety three in
the bottom of the six as the chan Ta Clair's
that put a run back on the board as they
bat in the bottom half of the sixth inning there,
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So yeah, Coastal and UH looks like they're coasting and
and may soon wind up in the National Championship series. Okay,
when when you mentioned your your hope and I would
imagine building excitement, uh for the possibility of the Oklahoma
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City Thunder winning its first ever NBA championship. I understand
how to get that. And my youngest son is also
a big Thunder fan, so he'll be he'll be all
geared up about it and everything. Forget six tomorrow night.
You ever read the Athletic you ever get a chance
to read it? Of course, did you read the piece
(16:07):
from Michael Sean Duggart today entitled as Thunder near NBA
title spurned Sonics fans can't forget what they lost seventeen
years ago? There you go. It's one of those pieces
that they did this for a while. I don't think
the first two Ravens' Super Bowl wins where they go
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back and visit with the disgruntled Cleveland fans on losing
the Browns to Baltimore. The genesis of this even goes
on back to when the Colts finally went in Indianapolis
and with Peyton manning in whatever it was two thousand
and six, I guess it was, and they went to
Baltimore and did a big thing on Colts fans who
(16:55):
have never gotten over it, and it was their town
and their team and their time and all that stuff.
And they went back to back NFL titles in fifty
eight and fifty nine, and then of course one it
in sixty eight, only to be shocked by Joe Namath
and the Jets and Super Bowl three, and then won
a Super Bowl as the Baltimore Colt super Bowl five
when they beat the Cowboys, and so it was their team.
(17:15):
But the owner, Robert Ursay and ends up packing up
the moving vans literally in the middle of the night
and moving them out during during a blizzard, during a snowstorm,
and driving them to Indianapolis. And a lot of folks
have never gotten over. There's some people that never got
over the Dodgers leaving Brooklyn or the Giants leaving New
York to go west. It happens when teams lose their
(17:36):
franchise ask disenfranchised Oilers fans about their team moving to
Tennessee and ultimately becoming the Time. So anyway, it's a
pretty lengthy piece about Sonics fans who still have not
gotten over Clay Bennett moving the team two thousand and
eight and how bad it was unless we forget Kevin
(18:01):
Durant won Rookie of the Year playing in Seattle as
a member of the Sonics in the six oh seven season.
His rookie season was spent as a member of the
Seattle SuperSonics before the Sonics were moved to to Okahoma City.
And there's all there's a lot of in depth to
tail about. Guys like Jack Sigmo played there. Obviously, Gary
(18:24):
Payton in the in the nineties version that played the
Jordan led Bulls in the NBA Finals. But if you
go old school, back to the late seventies with Gus Johnson,
with Dennis Johnson, the late Dennis Johnson, who was great guy,
was the first Austin Spurs coach down here when they
were the Toros. Great guy was always accessible and and
(18:44):
he tragically passed away of a heart attack. But those teams,
Vinnie Johnson, the Microwave they call him, who had played
at Baylor in college, and uh, you know all of
those guys that played on those Seattle teams, the ones
that went to the finals in seventy eight for the
first time, lost to the Washington then Bullets, then beat
(19:06):
them in a rematch the next year in seventy nine,
and then they got to the finals. There was an
incredible I know Mavericks fans were remember, but a lot
of other fans won't remember this. There was an amazing
series that the Mavericks had with the Sonics the first
time Dallas ever made the playoffs in nineteen eighty four,
(19:26):
and it was best of five in the first round
and they'd split the first four games. Game five was
due to be at Reunion Arena, but they couldn't play
it there because they had the WCT going on World
Championship Tennis, which was a big thing for time, and
my buddy Alex and I were actually working that WCT
event selling shirts and polo shirts and programs and stuff
(19:49):
for WCT tennis, and so they had to play the
Mavericks Sonics decisive Game five at Moody Coliseum on the
SMU camp, I said, nine thousand. It's been known forever
in Dallas as the Moody Madness game, and fans went
crazy and the Mavericks I think we're down eight with
fifty two seconds left, and came back and won it.
(20:10):
It was an incredible thing there. But the Sonics were
a playoff regular George carl was the coach when they
went to the NBA Finals and loss to the Michael
Jordan led Chicago Bulls. Lenny Wilkins coached the Sonics when
they won their one NBA title in nineteen seventy nine.
So it goes into a lot of those things and
how a lot of fans have never forgotten it. And
(20:33):
when in the next round of NBA expansion comes around,
it is largely theorized that the two most likely candidates
for expansion are Las Vegas and Seattle, and they might
rebirth the Sonics again. That might happen again if they
come around and add to more teams. I hope so too.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Yeah, because obviously what happened with Howard Schultz who bought
the team and and ended up selling the team to owners.
To the owner Clay Bennett, who obviously had wanted to
move the team, wanted to relocate the team, and you know,
Schultz said no, no, they're going to keep in Seattle. Obviously
that wasn't true, and so and he.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Was, of course mister Starbucks, and and so in that
piece they talked about how they hate Howard Schultzen, hate
Clay Bennett, and all of that Clay Bennett, you know,
they knew he was going to move the team. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
So there's also a real good podcast too for those
of you who are really interested, and it's done by
the Ringer on the move to seat on the SuperSonics
and their offentual move to Okay see, but also kind
of what led to that and how it all started. Yeah,
really interesting, like six episode podcast. It's unfortunate, but you know,
(21:43):
it's a reminder that while it is sports, there is.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
A business side and a nasty, ugly business side.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
But when we do get the next round of expansion
or will be a Las Vegas team that will be
half owned by Lebron James and there will be a
Seattle SuperSonics team that we'll be back in the league.
So excited for that. Yeah, hopefully that'll that'll be the case.
By the way, there's a group in there that you know,
different people will refer to themselves say, Look, I'm an
irrational fan, they said, but I hope Oklahoma City not
(22:10):
only never wins with title.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
They don't. They don't deserve one, they don't deserve a parade,
they don't deserve rings. They said, I know that sounds irrational.
But but that's just how I feel or something like that. Uh,
this this has nothing to Oklahoma City fans were happy
to get they were thrilled to get a team. They
supported the Hornets really well. After the Hornets were temporarily
moved there following Katrina, they proved that they could support
(22:34):
an NBA franchise and and so they did. And so
it's it's not about it's not about Oklahoma City. It's
a it's about, you know, an ownership, a group deciding
to move them. So, like you said, hopefully the Sonics
are and they said that even if that, if that happens,
Like there are several who have said that, even if
that happens in the next few months and it gets approved,
(22:55):
they said, how painfully ironic will be if the thunder
has won the title that our team should have been
the one being celebrated, said that group is celebrated a
title and we have to start all over from scratch.
Does that sound familiar Brown's and Ravens because three seasons
after four seasons after the Browns left Cleveland for Baltimore,
(23:17):
they won the Super Bowl. Well, a lot of those
bass players that started in Cleveland and Cleveland had to
start from scratch and they still have never been to
a Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
And ironic part of it too is you mentioned Hurricane
Kontrina that forced the at the time the New Orleans
Hornets to play somewhere else and ended up being okay see,
okay see. Had been lobbying David Stern to bring a
team to Oklahoma City, and after all this had happened,
you know, Stern had told the mayor or the governor
(23:47):
Oklahoma that like, yeah, y'all would be great for a
hockey team, but not the NBA. And ultimately, of course
what happened to Howard Schultz and Clay Bennett kind of
softened David Stearns's stance. But for a while he did
not want a team in Okase But eventually it kind
of unfolded and here we are.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
Yeah, he's pleased with it. He was pleased with it
to the end. Stern was at the end of his life,
but you know, he was very, very adamant saying this
is a temporary move. When the Hornets moved to Oklahoma
City in the aftermath of Katrina, he said, this team
will not be staying here permanently. As soon as New
Orleans gets back on its feet and get a new arena.
(24:27):
As soon as they do that, they are going back
to New Orleans, which is what they did. All right,
we'll be back to wrap up hour number one on
thirteen under the Zone final hour of the program. We
brought you the Round Rock Express game in the first
hour that went into the first hour of the program,
the Express falling to Oklahoma City as they also the
Commets fifteen to one was that final score. They'll way
(24:50):
back at it tomorrow night. I think it's a six
game series that they're playing in ok okc at the
Chickasaw Bricktown ball Park. Greig Way alongside the producer Cameron Parker,
who called some Express games filling in last year at
the Chickasaw Breakdown Ballpark in oklahom See, that's how you
(25:11):
became acquainted with Nick Grill. Yes, that was Next Grill.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
That was That was also when Texas was playing Oklahoma
and the Women's College World Series.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Yeah, funny enough.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
I went to the semi final game where I saw
Texas defeat Stanford one nothing, where Najorie Kennedy was so
the picture for Stanford. Texas won that game one nothing.
That was a fun atmosphere, and then the last two
games weren't so fun. And I distinctly remember when Oklahoma
clintch the Women's College World Series.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
I was on the air and Boomer.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Sooner Champ broke out at Chickasaw Breakdown Ballpark. Okay, it
wasn't very thrilled with that, but you know, you got
to be professional, right.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
So if the comments were at home when the long
Horns went last week, got doubt there was chants of
Texas fi Taxa coming up a us that ballpark there
at the time. There were plenty of times in the
past when the Big Twelve Tournament was there when that happened.
Texas won it there in two thousand and three, beating
Baylor and a walk off in the bottom of the tenth,
a two run homer from Curtis thig Pin, the runner
(26:15):
who was on base at the time for Texas that game.
Great trivia question, Houston Street. Oh really he was on there, Yeah,
he was on there. He played some third base in
addition to when he was on the mountain. And they
won there in two thousand and three. They won again
there in two thousand and eight and nine, back to
(26:38):
back eight That was the story we were telling last
week about Keith Morland and I on our way to
the airport and we got a call saying because it
was pool play and the unexpected it happened in the
pool thing and the tie breaks, and we should come back.
So we did and Texas won that one. Brandon Belt
(26:59):
was the outstanding player of that tournament when they beat
Kansas State fifteen to seven in the final. And then
the next year nine they beat Missouri. That was actually
the year of the turnaround and come back because it
was Missouri that was getting in there by beating Texas,
A and M so they and I think it was
Brandon Loy who was the outstanding player in that tournament
(27:20):
for Texas, and then of course they wanted in Tulsa
in twenty fifteen to get in there. Texas I think
had the most big twelve conference tournament championships that may
have since been surpassed or equal by maybe TCU or
Oklahoma State, I'm not sure, but they wanted in two
in Arlington when they had what is now known as
(27:43):
Choccaw Stadium, it was the old Rangers Ballpark in Arlington.
That the year they went on and won the national Championship.
They wanted in two, they wanted to three in Oklahoma City,
they wanted in eight and nine in Oklahoma City in
fifteen until they won it five times, So they definitely
had to run there. King of postseason baseball College World
Series now down to what's direct the level, what's called
(28:06):
the bracket championships because they're down to their final four.
So if you're think of a final four final four
in basketball this year, who's in the final for Florida
Auburn duke? Who am I leaving out? Who did duke beaten?
The other? Sub fight Houston, Florida Auburn duke in Houston
and Florida won the national championship over duke. That was
(28:28):
in basketball football Ohio State, Texas, Notre Dame, Notre Dame,
and then who is the fourth Georgia Ray Notre Dame
beat Georgia in the Sugar Bowl of Penn State. Yeah,
it was because Penn State had beaten SMU I guess
(28:48):
so yeah. Anyway, so that was in the final four
for college football in Texas. Is whatever been in the
final four of the past two year years? It was
Notre Dame in Penn State? Pretty sure, right? And then
Penn State won, and then does Notre Dame beat Georgia,
(29:09):
then Penn statedy bet Boise State. That's after Notre Dame
beat Penn State.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Yeah, because that was when Drowler threw that real bad
interception to kind of ice the game for Notre Dame.
Then of course we all we know what happened on
the Texas. We don't have to rehash that. We're going there,
all right.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
So so anyway, that was your final four in football,
Ohio State, Texas, Notre Dame, Penn State.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
And you know it's the basketball side, all one seeds,
right for the first time since.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
Yeah, I think it only happened. It's only happened a
couple of times. Yeah, that all ones made it.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
On the football side, And of course this will be
completely different now that the formatch change versus words. It
will be the top four teams with the top four
seats versus the top four conference champions. The lowest seed
was Texas at five. Well, howse State was an eight seed,
Penn State a six, lad even a seven. So the
one seed loss Oregon, the two seed loss Georgia. Of
(30:05):
course they didn't have Carson back. Boise State, the three
seed loss and then Arizona State.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
If you say it in verse it, Texas was the
highest seedeed remaining at number five seed. All right, and
so your final four for baseball college baseball, your final
four are Coastal Carolina, Louisville, LSU, and Arkansas. Now, I
think most folks probably would have guests LSU in Arkansas.
(30:34):
Maybe a few that had a lot of wisdom about
Coastal Carolina. Our friend Ty Harrington among those who's been
really riding high on the Chanticleers, might have been able
to pick that. Nobody would have picked Louisville. Do you
realize yesterday when Louisville eliminated Oregon State, that was only
their forty second win of the year. That's crazy to
(30:55):
think about. Texas won forty four games and got eliminated
at the regional level, not only at You would think
that teams in the College World Series, especially once they
reach the semifinal round, are going to be at least
twenty five close to thirty wins over five hundred. At
least Texas wound up thirty over five hundred, forty four
and fourteen. You would think it would be that they're
(31:16):
nineteen above five hundred. They're forty two and twenty three.
They're going to finish forty two and twenty four because
right now in the eight inning, it is ten three
Coastal Carolina, but Louisville got hot at the right time
and they wound up, you know, getting all the way
into the final four. Tonight LSU will play Arkansas. If
LSU wins, it'll be LSU against Coastal Carolina again. I'm
assuming coast is going to hold on. They're up ten
(31:38):
to three and the eighth inning. But tonight LSU and Arkansas.
If Arkansas wins, those two have to plate one more
time tomorrow. I'm sure Coastal's hoping for whoever they play,
they have to play one more time tomorrow. You some
more of that pitching, because LSU, like Coastal, is only
going into its third starting pitcher right now. All right,
we've got more coming up here. On thirteen under the zone,
Coastal Carolina is coasting. They lead Louisville eleven to three
(32:01):
in the bottom of the eighth inning, and so the
Chanticleer is about to qualify for their second National Championship appearance.
Back in twenty sixteen, nine years ago, they won the
whole thing, won the title, beat Arizona to win that
national title, and they're gonna be back in there. They
are a seeded team, it's just they were seated thirteenth nashally,
(32:23):
and there were a lot of folks who thought they
were under seed underseated. Kyle Peterson among them. He thought
that Coastal and Oregon State would be the main combatants,
if you will, for the number eight or number nine
national seat. Well, Oregon State got the eight, but Florida
(32:46):
State was given to the nine. Coastal was the thirteen.
So Coastal wins its regional. Then they go to Auburn
to play the four seed. They sweep Auburn now and
then going to Omaha, and they have not dropped the
game in Omaha, and it doesn't look like they're going
to drop one going into the national Championship. They're up
eleven to three in the bottom of the eighth. There
(33:06):
was an interesting graphic that ESPN had up just a
few minutes ago, and it was longest win streak for
teams entering the championship round of the Men's College World Series.
The longest win streak. Now, this goes all the way
back to the very Let's see, was it the first
(33:30):
It was the second year of the tournament that the
College World Series started in nineteen forty seven. In forty eight,
USC won one of its twelve national championships. They went
into the championship round with an eighteen game winning streak.
In nineteen ninety five, Kyle State fullerd and coach by
(33:52):
Augie Garrido went in with a seventeen game winning streak
and ended up winning it. In two thousand and one,
Miami went in with a sixteen game winning streak they
won it, and in nineteen sixty five, Arizona State went
into it with a sixteen game winning streak. Coastal Carolina
(34:15):
is about to have a twenty six game winning streak
going into the National Championship round a twenty six game
winning streak. I'm not saying they're gonna win it because
I've said all along. People asked me who I thought
was the best team that was when the eight teams arrived,
who I thought was the best team there? And I
(34:37):
said it was either going to be Arkansas or LSU.
Arkansas thought looked like the most complete team. I thought
that LSU had better pitching. Both teams could really clamber
the ball. I said, those two teams are the best teams.
Maybe Arkansas, Arkansas's the best, whatever, but I knew Coast
was good. And like I said, Ty Harrington talked about
them throughout the course of the season, said they're really,
(34:59):
really good and they're proving it. So now they're going
to the bottom of the ninth and the Chanta Clears
are three outs away from winding up in the National
Championship Game. They are that close to winning this thing now.
And as always, like I say, we're happy to welcome
(35:21):
your questions, your thoughts, your comments on the text line,
so he said, I still have by Gus Williams poster
in my locker on g Hall. Gus Williams played for
the Sonics. Sonics won that title in nineteen seventy nine.
That franchise, as we know it, is going for its
(35:42):
first NBA World title since then since nineteen seventy nine.
Tomorrow night, when the now reconstituted Oklahoma City Thunder, we'll
try to wrap up the NBA Finals in six games
against the Indiana Pacers. The Pacers have never won an
NBA title either, and they're trying to become the first
team in pro basketball history. It's important to make this
(36:07):
delineation to really make sure folks understand what I'm talking
about here. It will be they're trying to become the
first team to win a world championship, so to speak,
or at least a title in the ABA and one
in the NBA. And before you jumped too say wait, wait, wait,
what about the Spurs. Spurs never won an ABA title. Now,
(36:31):
the Spurs were only in the league because they were
the Dallas Chaparrals. They were the ancestral franchise of the
San Antonio Spurs. Was the Dallas Chaparrals that played the
old Dallas Memorial Auditorium downtown. That's where I worked at
Kiss concert when we were talking about Kiss the other day,
I can. And that's also where the Beatles played in
(36:51):
nineteen sixty five, but they also played at Moody Coliseum
in the SMU campus. They had one year where they
were called the Texas Chaparrals. They played some games in
Fort Worth of the old Terran County Convention Center and
even played some games in Lubbock, but they were mainly
the Dallas Chaparrals. They were a charter member franchise of
the ABA, but in nineteen seventy two, seventy three, No,
(37:15):
it was seventy three. The seventy three seventy four season
was their first year in San Antonio, and they never
won an ABA title because they were only in the
ABA seventy three, seventy four, seventy five, seventy six. They
had four seasons. I guess it was it, and they
were maybe only three seasons, but anyway, they were only
in the ABA for like three seasons, never won an
(37:37):
ABA title. Obviously won four NBA titles. The Denver Nuggets
won an NBA title two years ago, they never won
an ABA title. The Nets who won ABA titles have
never won an NBA title. They got in the finals
that one time when they had Jason Kidd and lost
in the finals to the Lakers. And you have the
(37:58):
Indiana Pacers, who won more ABA titles than any other franchise.
I think they won four. They never won an NBA title.
But their backshit to the wall. They have to win
tonight to get it to a seventh game back in
Oklahoma City on Sunday. But again that's tomorrow night. We'll
let more breakdown on that coming up. We'll continue on
(38:20):
thirteen under the Zone. I have a quick, funny little
story for you here, Craig. Yeah, so this week is
the Travelers Championship, right the final centature event of the
PGA Tour before they get ready for the Open Championship
in the PGA Tour playoff. Anyway, this past weekend, obviously
JJ spawn with an incredible victory at Oakmont. A couple
of long horns in the field that we're you know,
(38:40):
Scottie Scheffler, Jordan's b playing on Sunday. Well, I guess
the Speed and Schefflers were staying together, and we're gonna
say together Oakmont, and then I guess in Cromwell, Connecticut
for the Travelers this week, so outside Hartford, Speed finishes
round before the rain delay got in. Actually I think
like maybe fifteen to twenty minutes, right before the airhorn
and sounded so and Scotty Scheffler was still playing on
(39:02):
the front nine. So speaking Brewller decided, you know what,
let's watch the final round. Where did they go? Buffalo
wild wings? Uh? And Spee said, I.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
Don't usually drink after a round, especially when I'm getting
ready to play the next day, but after the Sunday
of the US opened. I needed to knock back a
few beers. So he did that and watched went to
B Dubs and the Beat Ubs and watched the final
round from an undisclosed beat ubs in in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania,
so or maybe outside of Pittsburgh. So if you were
up there and you thought you saw Jordan's beat the
(39:35):
Michael Grewler out of beat Ubs drinking some mcultrist in
there you go.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
You did. I thought you were going to say that.
They went back to the house that they were sharing
with the Schefflers. And then after Scotty got down and
came and said, hey, who ate the last part of
the ham there for the ham? Sam? Or who took
the last piece of Cocona cream pie or something like that.
Don't you're gonna say something like that. We've been talking
a lot about the NBA today and the and we
(40:00):
all know that the NBA TV contract is changing. The
Eastern Conference finals were the last ones on TNT for
the foreseeable future. Really inside the NBA is moving the
espnxcs and that there are some who say that it
won't be quite the same as the way you've become
(40:22):
used to seeing it. That part we know, and we
know obviously that the NBA signed these eleven year contracts
with Disney, Amazon and NBC and it's worth a total
of seventy five billion dollars seventy five billion with Disney,
(40:46):
Amazon and NBC, and that next year the NBA will
have two new viewing homes, larger presence and broadcast television,
is reported in The Athletic Today, and the option to
stream any nationally televised game. So that's a good thing.
It'll represent, according to the article, a profound adjustment and
(41:08):
how fans can watch games. Now I knew all that, well,
I didn't know about the streaming, but I knew a
lot of the other stuff. What I did not know
maybe I just flap missed it and glossed over. You
tell me if you knew this game this postseason was
the last time that local regional sports networks.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
Were able to broadcast the first round of the playoffs.
I don't think I knew that.
Speaker 1 (41:34):
Next year, every round is nationally televised. Every game of
every round is nationally televised. So for those of you
who enjoyed watching the Spurs, well, if they get back
to the playoffs. You know, when the day comes, you
won't see them on a regional network. For those of
you who enjoyed watching Mark Folowell on the Mavericks telecast,
(41:58):
you will not see them doing doing TV. For those
of you, who's the Who's the thunder? Uh TV play
by place? A young guy they brought in, Yeah, and
they got rid of him because he is faux pah,
forgot who he is. But Jason Way, he likes him.
He thinks he's better than Brian Davis. I don't know
(42:20):
Chris Fisher all right, those of you who saw Chris
Fisher or whatever, and you're not going to get to
see him when they get to the playoffs. Every round
of the playoffs will be nationally televised. Now that's kind
of a good thing, really, because you might not have
been able to see if you wanted a first round
game between Atlanta and Orlando, or the Clippers and the
(42:44):
Jazz or something like that, unless you add maybe the
NBA TV package, or if you had and I've had
the NBA TV package, I don't even know if I
got those those first round playoff games. UH NBA TV
kind of cherry picks and things like that. Now every
game will be available, so I guess that's a good thing.
But if you're used to your hometown announcer doing that,
(43:08):
it's not going to happen. It just won't happen. Of course,
I was used to it in calling long worn football
games on the radio. That the way they if, it's
kind of an inverse when they got the semifinals and
they did what was called what the hometown broadcast whatever
and put our broadcast on. So that was a nice thing.
But of course Texas. With Texas, every game is nationally
(43:28):
televised now, every single one. We'll be back to wrap
up the day on thirteen under the Zone
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