College Football Rankings, NFL, NBA, Taylor Swift

Craig Way talks the best (and worst) in college football rankings, all things NFL and NBA, and Taylor Swift coiming into her own as a football fan. It's all here on The Craig Way Show!

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:02):
Gisa Texas lection, a Hall of Fame broadcaster, the voice
of the Texas Longhorns, and your host.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
Of the Craigway Show.

Speaker 3 (00:13):
Here he is now Craigway.

Speaker 4 (00:19):
Good Thursday afternoon to you, and welcome to the program.
Glad to have you with us this afternoon here on
the Craigway Show on Sports Radio AM thirteen hundred zone.

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My name is Craigway. I'm glad to have you.

Speaker 4 (00:30):
With us this afternoon with us US always includes the producer,
while the regular producer of the program, Cameron D. Parker
with a D standing for Dallas as in his favorite
pro football team, is out this week as he is
out the rest of this week through Monday of next week.
He is in Mexico for a wedding not his own,

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but he is down attending a wedding this weekend down
in Mexican. So he's down there. He'll be back on two.
So we have Ronald Savage Junior as our producer this afternoon.
We're always glad to have him. Glad to have you
with us as well, a lot of things to get
to on the program in a variety of topics as always,
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Speaker 2 (04:25):
That sort of thing.

Speaker 4 (04:26):
So I always want to get that out there first
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and obviously you can text us as well. So that
being the case, there's other things to get to. I
always mentioned this that there's a at this time of year,
there are lists, polls, all those kinds of things, and

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like the preseason polls, and yesterday we brought you another
set of another All American preseason All American team that
had three long horns between the first and second team combined.
So Anthony Hills on the first team that was for
the athletic the first team the Athletic preseason All American

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Football poll, and in the football team and in the
on the second team, Colin Simmons the long orange rush
end and also on the second team Michael taff long
WRN safety, So they were both there.

Speaker 2 (05:49):
We did that yesterday on the show.

Speaker 4 (05:51):
But at this time of year, this is the best
time to do this is to kind of lay it
all out for you all of these the these preseason rankings,
these preseason polls, these kinds of things, so you can
digest all of it.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
Now many of you.

Speaker 4 (06:08):
Are probably old school like me, and that you still
like the magazines. For those of you watching there on
stream Yard, you'll see, you know, we have the public
publications He's for you to say, like the Dave Campbell's
Texas Football magazine, many refer to as the Bible of
football in Texas because even though they have kind of

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you might say, over time, kind of morphed a little
and and evolved over time, they no longer have a
section on the Cowboys, and they no longer have a
section on the Texans, or in the past it was
the Oilers in there because they've been trying to keep
it at its critical mass size of four hundred pages,

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which they've still been able to do. Although we have
Greg Tepper, the editor in chief, on with us every week.
He said he thinks next year they'll probably go beyond
it because there's more Division one teams. They have some
guidelines that they go by that all of the Division
one FBS teams get their own kind of special section.

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And even if you're at say not in a Power
five thing, say for example, I'm just opening up here
in my own line of North Texas there's one, two, three, four,
five pages, actually six pages on North Texas and it's
and so you get those pages. It's actually it's five

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pages plus an ad page. But each Division one FBS
football program yields five pages. Well, there's thirteen FBS programs,
so that would be sixty five pages. And if you
added another thirteen pages because there's an ad page in
all those sects, that's seventy eight before you even get
to the confer pages. And then after that FCS programs,

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Division two, Division three, and junior college it's all in here.
And then of course the fifteen hundred plus high school
football programs public and private in the state of Texas.
So that's why it's been a challenge to keep it
four hundred pages. But I think they're probably going to
go beyond that next year. But they still have this,
and it's and and so's. That's one area for those

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old school people like myself would like to have the
physical copy in my hands to be able to have
quick reference off of that. Then there's the other you know,
national college magazines like Phil Steele, there's that, there's Athlones.
I have a copy of Lindy's with me today. I
bought this when I was on vacation in North Carolina

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just to have something to read there. So there's that.
But I'm I'm kind of old school anyway on that.
This is how old school I am on this kind
of stuff. As many of you know, I spend a
lot of time doing researching, talking about, and broadcasting high
school football in the state. I have for forty three

(09:12):
years now. This will actually be my forty fourth year
of broadcasting high school football in various forms radio primarily,
also television with the state championship games. This year, for
the first time, I'll be doing a regular streaming telecast
of a game every Friday night.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
Every Friday night that I'm.

Speaker 4 (09:33):
Not traveling for a Texas game, of course, but I'll
be doing that for Victory plus the sports app people,
the Victory plus people who televise the Dallas Stars. They
have the Anaheim Ducks. They have a lot of other
other programs as well. They are now the rights holders
for the UIL state championships now, and I've said this before,
but I want to make sure and I'm going to

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continue to do this during the course of the year
to reassure anybody who's thinking, well, that means I can't
watch the state championship games because it's on an app.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
It's isn't it.

Speaker 4 (10:02):
Well, First of all, their app, Victory Sports Plus, is
available and it's absolutely free to watch on your television.
Some watch it through Apple TV or Roku TV, or
you just you know, download it through your Roku device

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or whatever on your television and you can watch it
on your television watch on your phone too, But you
can watch on television and it's free, and it's available everywhere.
As much as I enjoyed doing the high school football
state championships for Fox Southwest, which whose name changed after
the regional sports networks were sold off by the parent
company Fox. Then it became Ballet Sports Southwest, and the

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last year was fan duel. The viewership on that had
diminished because of subscription squabbles and disagreements and things like that,
to the point where last year's state championships we're only
seen only available to be seen in about thirty percent
of the state of Texas, and that was unfortunate because

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I know a lot of people wanted to watch it.
You don't have that problem anymore the Victory Sports Plus app,
it'll be free and it's available everywhere where. You can
just stream to watch it, and it's great quality and
all that sort of stuff. But as I started to say,
as I prepare for that, and by the way, the
reason why I'm doing that now is the scoreboard show
that I'd done for twenty five the twenty eight years

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of its existence on Fox Southwest, and then like I
said later, it became known as Ballet Sports Southwest and
then FanDuel last year, it's going away.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
It's not going to be around am around.

Speaker 4 (11:43):
I know. It surprised a lot of people. A lot
of people ask me about it at coaching school. But
the folks at FanDuel just didn't have an interest in
broadcasting anymore high school football, which is a shame because
that was the one thing that was a bona fide
money maker for them, whereas the tens of millions of
dollars they were paying to pro sports franchises that wasn't

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yielding the results they wanted in sales.

Speaker 2 (12:08):
That's why.

Speaker 4 (12:08):
And then they wound up in financial difficulties, and then
the Diamond Sports Group, which is the parent group above
that declared bankruptcy, and then the Rangers pulled out and
the Mavericks pulled out and the Stars pulled out, you know,
the New Orleans Pelicans. So it was it was a
bad deal and so they got out of it. And
they're not doing a high school football scoreboard show anymore now.

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I think there may be one, and I'll ask Greg
Tepper about this.

Speaker 2 (12:32):
In a week or so.

Speaker 4 (12:33):
I think there may be one streaming on Dave Campbell's
Texas Football Magazine on their textan live free televised thing.
I think so, and I'll ask them about that. But
I'll be doing a high school game every Friday night
that I'm not traveling for a Texas game. Point of
all of that is to say, and again this goes
back to the old school me with the printed materials,

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is that I'm old school enough to where when I
received my master copy of every high school football team
in Texas their schedule so I could begin my preparation
for it. It's emailed to you, and so you can
obviously go right to it on your laptop or iPad
or even on your phone or whatever.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
But old school and I have that. But old school
guy that I am.

Speaker 4 (13:22):
I going to print the thing out clipped office depot, and.

Speaker 2 (13:27):
I didn't print it out.

Speaker 4 (13:28):
Excuse me.

Speaker 2 (13:29):
I put it on a jump drive, on a thumb drive.

Speaker 4 (13:31):
I took it up to office depot and I had
them printed all of these pages and then put it
in a wire coil bound copy.

Speaker 2 (13:40):
But that's the nerdy geek that I am about that
sort of stuff.

Speaker 4 (13:44):
So I am very much old school, and I understand
a lot of people who like to have the Sunday
paper in their hands or the daily newspaper in their hands,
and I was right there with you. I had print
subscripts to the Austin American Statesman and the Dallas Morning

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News for years and years and years and years, but
it became.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
Just untenable because.

Speaker 4 (14:13):
Even living in Georgetown, it became financially unfeasible. That it
was like, you know, they were very much determined to
reduce the amount of printing they were actual printing they
were going to do, and it just became online and
streaming and things like that at a reduced price, because
it was going to be some ridiculous amount to get

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the printed newspaper at home for a month. So I
did cave into that, and that's where you know, I
got real comfortable with my iPad being able to pull
up the daily newspaper and to read the Statesman and
the iPad with the e newspaper and the Dallas Morning
News and the Fort Worth Star Telegram, San Antonio Express News,
that ever read the Houston Chronicle. So I read these

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papers and read other publications as well, but I do
that through the rough through the iPad, So I have
given in to that, but I also understand the need
for the printed material as well. In fact, there was
a big piece on The Athletic about pre season football

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publications and that they might really kind of be the
final dinosaur of that sort of publication. And they listed,
of course, like I said, Lindy's and Athlon and Phil Steel.
Phil Steel's I think is probably the most profitable. The
other ones have had profits drop off in years, but
they still do a good job. And I think a

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lot of people like to have, you know, the slick
magazine print and the school colors and all that kind
of stuff.

Speaker 2 (15:45):
I'm one of those, you know, nerdy, goofy people.

Speaker 4 (15:48):
They do point out how incredibly extremely popular and still
is Dave Campbell's Texas Football Magazine has been since nineteen sixteen,
continues to be today.

Speaker 2 (15:57):
It is.

Speaker 4 (16:00):
That other people have kind of gone to the streaming
part of it and just and just pulling it through
their streaming devices. So at least there's the flexibility there
for those who's to want to get them. And I
will tell you this, if I'm up in the Dallas
Forward there, say I do in the past a high
school football scoreboard show on a Friday night. This year,
it would be say if I was up there doing

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a game on a Friday night, doing a game for
television Saturday morning, if I'm at breakfast or whatever, I'll
pick up, ah, you know, a copy as I'm you
know whatever, having bacon and eggs or a cup of
coffee or whatever, I'll do that. But I'm out of
the habit of just consuming my daily news through a

(16:42):
printed page anymore. And I kind of miss that. I
kind of I don't know about the rest of it.
I kind of miss getting up on Sunday morning and
walking out my driveway and picking up the Sunday paper.
I had a dog trained to go get that paper
or for me in the morning. I'd get up and

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then she would run down to the end of drive
pick up that paper and.

Speaker 2 (17:05):
Bring them this.

Speaker 4 (17:05):
She knew I wanted it I had that going for
a while, so I do miss that, and occasionally I'll still,
like I said, by the printed edition, especially if I'm
out of town. But now I've kind of, you know,
fallen into the gap with everybody else on the streaming thing,
except except when it comes to the annual football publications.
And when the Athletic did that, they did that big

(17:28):
piece on this. They talked about people's need to still
have the physical part of it, and I think it
was I can't remember if it as Lindy's. Maybe it
was Phil Steele, but I think it might have been
Lindy's or atl On. One of them talked about they
still have a very large subscription rate in our prison system.

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There's a lot of guys and you know, they're doing
you know whatever, they're doing three to five for robbery
or something. But and so they're in there for a while,
but they subscribed to the magazines and they want to
have something as as they said that they obviously have
time on their hands to read. There was a great
story that the late Dave Campbell himself told us one

(18:11):
time on the air when we had him on with
us about uh, the magazine and the appeal that it
had and developed over time. And he got a letter
from a man who was in I think he was
in the walls unit. He was in the he was
in the is that State prison, Huntsway. He wasn't in

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Elis One, he wasn't on death row, but he was
doing time.

Speaker 5 (18:36):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (18:37):
And he asked, he said, I subscribe to your magazine
or he said, I get one to somebody to bring
me one every year. And I set it down just
for a minute in the dining hall, went to get
a cup of coffee, came back and it was gone.
He said, you just can't trust anyone these days. Of course,
that came from prison, so they've had somebody. Dave Campbell

(19:01):
had somebody send him another copy of it. And I
get letters from folks who are serving time. They're behind bars,
and they'll ask me questions about the football team or something,
you know, something in specific. But that's you know, you know,
you have a captive audience when it's that sort of thing.
So anyway, there are people who are very much attached

(19:24):
to the printed editions of the college football and college
in high school. In the case of Dave Campbells Texas
Football magazine pre season publications, and that's still a good thing,
I think. All Right, coming up, I get something for
you to hear. I'm gonna ask you to bear with

(19:44):
me on this because i will tell you up front
that I've never been a big fan of but not
down on not hating or thinking she's overrated or a hating.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
Your music or anything like that.

Speaker 4 (20:02):
But I've never been a real big fan of Taylor
Swift's music. But I'm starting to become a bigger fan
of Taylor Swift the person, mainly Taylor Swift the football fan.
I don't know if you heard this, but we're going
to play it for you when we come back from
the break, So stay with us.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
We'll do that. Put it this way, it.

Speaker 4 (20:23):
Might at least incrementally, you know, even if you don't
really like her, it might kind of boost your respect
level for her just a little bit. There. We'll get
to that coming up here on a Thursday afternoon on
Sports Radio thirteen hunder the Zone here on this Thursday afternoon.

Speaker 2 (20:43):
Glad to have you with us this afternoon. A couple
of things.

Speaker 4 (20:48):
The next round, or the next stage you might say,
of the FedEx Cup Golf Championship is in Owings Mill, Maryland.
It's outside of Baltimore at Caves Valley Golf Club. Of course,
Scotty Scheffler has this is a gigantic lead in the

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overall points, so he's probably, you know, going to be
in position to win it no matter what he does
the rest of the way. But anyway, they started playing
Round one of the BMW Championship today and they've had
to stop play because of stormy weather. Right now, the
leader in the clubhouse is Victor Hoblin, who shot a
three under round today, so he is three under and

(21:34):
he's tied for first of Ricky Fowler. But Ricky Fowler
is only through twelve holes of his round. So two
former Oklahoma State Cowboys going at it, but they are
they've suspended play at minus two. One shot back are
Michael Kim. Also, Bryce Griffin and Jason Day are all

(21:58):
two hundred and Scotty Scheffler is one underpar through fourteen
holes of his round. Kim, of those others, I missus
the only one who's finished around. He shot two hundred
to Day, Griffin, Day and Scheffler are all minus one,
so that's where that is, and they haven't been able
to continue that they're suspended for the moment. The reason

(22:21):
the other reason, there's a couple of reasons. I bring
that up. One just to make sure to bring everybody
up to speed on that. Also, there was a question
this morning for the morning kickoff for Mike Hardball Hard
and also for Mark Henry, and there was a question

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that said, were the Texas women on TV anywhere? And
the answer is that those games that he's talking about
in the Global Cup, those that tournament is going on
in Toronto, and the games are televised on ESPN and Plus.
So the women's forty point win of for Puerto Rico

(23:04):
yesterday eighty five forty five was televised on it. They
played Canada tonight and that's at seven o'clock and that's
an ESPN Plus telecast as well. So if I'm sure,
and I was away from the radio at the moment,
but I'm sure Mike probably answered that question. But if
he hadn't, just to let you know, yes, that's that's

(23:25):
where it happened. Those games for the Texas women are
being televised on ESPN Plus. Okay to the text line now,
to my point about being old school and liking having
the hard copy of the papers and the magazines in
my hands. Somebody said, good dog, hard copy six days

(23:45):
a week. There you go, So I said, I used
to love the Phil Steel magazine, but quite honestly, the
font is too small for me to read anymore.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
I get you there.

Speaker 4 (23:54):
There's so much information in that, and it's an outstanding publication,
really is. And also you have to I'm not paying
twenty bucks for it. It's the most expensive of them all,
but I would say it's probably the most in depth,
probably the most colorful, the most descriptive, all of those publications.

(24:15):
So if it's worth it to you for the twenty
dollars on that, then yeah, absolutely going it. But your
point is good about the font being very small. I
you know, I use readers anyway these days, and I
would have to have mine on if I were if
I were reading it, and then somebody else responding what
I was laying out. The instructions and the ease with

(24:39):
which you can access us via the talkback feature on
the iHeartRadio app. Somebody's a craig. We understand how to
use the talk back feature. We're just painfully shy. You
don't have to be shy with me.

Speaker 2 (24:51):
It's just me.

Speaker 4 (24:52):
Just think about that. You're just just visiting with me.
All right, Here's what I wanted to play for you.
Like I said, I'm not the haven't been a big
Taylor Swift fan because I'm not.

Speaker 2 (25:08):
I'm not that crazy about her music.

Speaker 4 (25:09):
I don't think it's bad music by any stretch, and
I don't dislike her music or anything like that.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
And I'm also.

Speaker 4 (25:16):
One of those people who did not begrudge her in
the relationship, the dating, the boyfriend's situation with Travis Kelsey.

Speaker 2 (25:28):
That's fine.

Speaker 4 (25:29):
And for those people who thought it was fake and
phony and created, you're wrong. It's it's real. They've been
together a while and they still enjoyed being together. And
but but I have to admit I kind of came
away a little bit of a little bit impressed when
I heard about this, and then I dialted up myself
and watched it. She was on that the podcast that

(25:52):
the Kelsey brothers, Travis and Jason do Now. She was
on it because not only is Travis's girlfriend, she's promoting
her new album that's coming out. So she's got her
new album coming out, and so I'm sure she was
there obviously to promote that. So she was talking about

(26:15):
the life of a showgirl. That's the title of the album,
wrapping up, you know, the Eras tour that she just
completed that massive tour and all this kind of stuff.
But in the midst of all of this, I want
you to listen, this is her talking about. It starts
off talking about her relationship with Travis Kelsey and how

(26:36):
understanding he is and what a good dude he is.
And they're also telling it to Jason who's on the
podcast as well. But she's she's sitting beside Travis as
she's talking about But then it moves into football, and
listen to what she says with regard to football. After
she starts off talking about a relationship and what kind

(26:57):
of a guy her boyfriend, Travis Kelsey is.

Speaker 5 (27:00):
About normal things like Travis is like he's just a
vibe booster in everyone's life that he's in.

Speaker 3 (27:07):
He's like a human exclamation point, Like you know, he's
like when you take a picture on your phone and
you put the like you push the enhanced color button,
that's like what you do.

Speaker 5 (27:19):
So I use so many more exclamation points now, but
I think it was just like you also, you were
so You're so non judgmental about people, and you were
not judgmental about the fact that I knew nothing about.

Speaker 3 (27:31):
The world you were in. You were nice.

Speaker 1 (27:34):
You were so nice.

Speaker 5 (27:40):
Jason on our first date, I literally, I legitimately asked
him what it was like when the Chiefs played the
Eagles in the Super Bowl, and he looked across the field,
across the line of scrimmage and saw his brother standing
on the other like five ft in front of him
on the field, and he was like he was and
he didn't even he didn't even look at me, like

(28:03):
I now.

Speaker 3 (28:03):
Know what an insane question that was. He was like, actually,
I'm on the offense.

Speaker 5 (28:08):
Uh, and my brother's on the offense, and I'm only
on the field at the same time as the defense.

Speaker 3 (28:12):
I thought everyone was on there. I thought I thought
that the quarterbacks.

Speaker 1 (28:17):
That's how you played it on the playground growing up.
So I understand if you hadn't.

Speaker 3 (28:22):
Like, no, you don't understand.

Speaker 5 (28:23):
I thought it was like Jared Goff is here and
Josh Allen's here, and they're gonna be like they blow
a whistle and then they they go at each other
and they're like and it's like who's gonna win.

Speaker 1 (28:36):
That's actually I would love to.

Speaker 2 (28:38):
See Jared got it.

Speaker 5 (28:41):
I've got some ideas, I've got some thoughts. Yeah, I
didn't know what a first down was. I didn't know
what the chains were. I didn't know what a tight
end was.

Speaker 1 (28:52):
I'm ever thankful for you diving into the football world.

Speaker 3 (28:57):
Oh my god. I fell in love with it. I
became obsessed with it.

Speaker 5 (28:59):
I became like a person who was running through the
halls of my house screaming.

Speaker 3 (29:04):
We drafted sa if you're worthy? And I was like,
what is who? Body snatched you?

Speaker 1 (29:10):
This is?

Speaker 3 (29:11):
This is? What do you mean? We drafted You're worthy?

Speaker 1 (29:16):
I forget where it was, but you were the first
person to tell me that.

Speaker 3 (29:21):
I was screeching. I couldn't believe it. I was freaking out.
We're talking about like.

Speaker 1 (29:25):
I'm like, wait, does she she right? I had to
look this up. I'm like, she, do she get the
wrong information here? We traded up?

Speaker 5 (29:31):
Yeah, we're talking about cover two, cover four, cover zero,
man covered.

Speaker 3 (29:35):
We're talking we're learning. I continue to learn.

Speaker 1 (29:38):
Maybe somebody else that even knows what those coverages are.

Speaker 5 (29:41):
I'm not ready to be an analyst right now, but
give me sixteen months.

Speaker 4 (29:50):
I gotta say that impressib me when she starts talking
about Cover two and Cover four, and she came from
zero football knowledge thinking that the quarterbacks were on the
field at the same time the opposing quarterbacks, to getting
all excited about them drafting Xavier Worthy and then doing that.

Speaker 2 (30:06):
So she spiked up her football interest.

Speaker 4 (30:09):
She's gotten to that. So I give her points for that.

Speaker 2 (30:11):
I do.

Speaker 4 (30:11):
I'm not, like I said, I'm not the biggest fan
of her music, but hey, I give her credit for
getting interested in football and starting to understand it at
least just a little bit. All right, up next when
we continue on thirteen under the Zone, second hour of
the program. Here on thirteen hundred of the Zone, Craigway
with you alongside the producer. The producer would be Ronald

(30:35):
Savage Junior. Glad to have you with us this afternoon,
and we were getting into a lot of questions. Let
me see if I can kind of help you a
little bit on a couple of items on this One
of those is the question that somebody asked about, am

(30:57):
I seeing the chats on stream yard. It's a little
more dificult for me to see him. They're on the
other side kind of of where the studio is. But
I can get around with some so for guys like
Chuck and also Jason, that's that's what the deal is.
But I'll try to get that as much as I
can on that. So Chuck asked me what I think

(31:18):
about Uh, he said, Baxter, I'm guessing you're you're referring
to C. J. Baxter. He's been making really good progress
in camp. They're very pleased with what he's done. But
you know, Sarkas said from the start that they probably
are not expecting. You know, it's it's still going to

(31:40):
be a steady climb for him to get back when
he comes off the kind of injury that he comes
off of to be full tilt, he said, I would
be exaggerating if I said he would be one hundred
percent full tilt ready in the season opener. I think
that's what he said. But that's why, you know, that's
why you have Terrey Wisner and Kristin Clark has made

(32:01):
progress coming back as well. So I mean there's you know,
there's there's ways to go with some of those guys
to get back to where they were before, but they
do like the progress that they're going. Chuck also asked
about the text line how to get and many people
have availed themselves of that.

Speaker 2 (32:20):
What you do is you.

Speaker 4 (32:23):
Uh, the place where you're texting it to is eight
one five three zero. So and so you text to
eight one five three zero. But what you do is
you got to add the word Texas. Uh. That has
to do with our geographic location in the iHeart family.
It's not anything Longhorn related. It it's the lone Star state. Anyway,

(32:47):
you pull up eight one five three zero, you're going
to text to that number. So your text begins with
the word Texas. So you do the Texas and then
you add your question comment like somebody said John Daily
Excluded talking about that hooter story in Augusta or see
pal talking about Texas women's basketball. I started off with
the word Texas and then thanks for the information on

(33:09):
women's basketball.

Speaker 2 (33:11):
The one who didn't like.

Speaker 4 (33:12):
Taylor Swift went Texas and then fake fake fake, Sorry Craig,
she's insufferable, so on and so forth. Let me also
say this too, and this particular texture may not necessarily
fall into this category. I have also I have also
discovered that you're like or dislike of Taylor Swift and

(33:43):
what's going on. Her presence at Chiefs games are in
many cases, I'm not saying it's one hundred percent of
the time, but in many cases directly proportional to how
you feel about the Kansas City Chiefs.

Speaker 2 (33:59):
If you're rooting of the Chiefs or if you don't
like the Chiefs.

Speaker 4 (34:03):
There's there's kind of a related thing there going on,
because I know a lot of people who are not
Chiefs fans or got Chiefs weary if you will, with
them winning the Super Bowls and getting back to Super Bowls.

Speaker 2 (34:17):
And just kind of eye rolling in.

Speaker 4 (34:19):
And now it's on top of this with the you know,
with Travis Kelcey and YadA YadA, I would also say
this too, and this is to take no side on
either side, but I'm you know me, I'm all about
kind of laying out one side the other side and
the facts of issues and things like that that Travis Kelcey,

(34:41):
this was even before he got with Taylor Swift. Travis
Kelcey's popularity took a hit from one specific group, and
that group was the group that was against getting the
COVID nineteen vaccine. Because Travis kelsey was out there and

(35:01):
promoting getting the vacs, getting the vaccination, and it bothered
a lot of people. So I think some of it
had to do with that, and then the added Taylor
Swift to it, and then depending on what.

Speaker 2 (35:12):
Side of the political aisle he following it.

Speaker 4 (35:14):
I don't go down that road on that sort of thing,
but I know that there was a definite negative feeling
toward him. There was an uptick in it presented after
he started doing commercials what was it profiser.

Speaker 2 (35:30):
For the getting the COVID nineteen vaccine.

Speaker 4 (35:33):
So that's part of it. And then, like I said,
if you're not a fan of the Chiefs, it's probably
if you're not already a Taylor Swift fan, and especially
even if you don't like her, it's probably a lot
easier to dislike her and the Chiefs the fact that

(35:53):
she's with Travis Kelce. What you can't deny, whether you
like the Chiefs or her or not, is the relationship.
It's it's real. And for those who think that it
was hollywooded up, I would disagree with you based on
their longevity together and what the things they do together.

(36:14):
And she goes on his podcast to pump up her
or a new tour for sure, or a new album
for sure. But she's in there talking football. So anyway,
there was the deal. So I said, we also understand
the text feature. We're just not very textually active. I
get that too. No, no, let me ask you this

(36:36):
to the text He said that do you not text friends, neighbors,
your children, or parents, or you know, you know, other people.
I found that in the this was starting in the
mid teens, I guess really thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, somewhere around there,

(37:02):
that if I really wanted to effectively communicate with my
four kids, I had I had to get busy with texting.
I had to. I just I just had to. It
was the easiest way to if you call them. And
I tried to bully them about it a little bit.
I got, you know, because I was paying the whole
cell bill for all of them. Now, my youngest was

(37:24):
pretty young at the time. I don't know that he
had a phone. Hey might add my time he was twelve,
I guess he did. But I tried to.

Speaker 2 (37:31):
Kind of give him the business on this coin.

Speaker 4 (37:34):
Listen, if I'm paying for the phone and I'm calling you,
you dog on, well.

Speaker 2 (37:38):
Better answer it.

Speaker 4 (37:40):
You better have a real good reason for not answering
if I call you, eh, whenever, like a lead balloon.
I mean, they would do it a little bit and say, look,
you're calling me when I'm in the middle of a
meeting or a practice or something like that. And there
were times I was true, and there were probably times
they probably ignored it as well. But I did find
that if if I texted them, I'd get a response

(38:03):
in a reasonable amount of time. So I kind of
had to be dragged like many of us, I guess
the older group kicking and screaming into it. But I've
been texting i'd say probably fifteen years now, I'd say
at least, if not longer. So I just kind of
that's you know, I kind of went into it, and

(38:26):
my wife at the time, my late wife, she told me,
you better get on board with this. You're going to
have to. That's it's the best way to communicate with them.
And then I found out with other friends of mine
and things like that, it became the best way. I
would also say this, and this is not to throw
a heavy sad note on the program, but it's for
the purposes of the conversation. When my wife Laurie, my

(38:50):
first wife, when she was going down the final stretches
of her battle with cancer. This would have been in
twenty sixteen, and really it kind of started in fifteen
as she was on the last round of chemo, but
in sixteen when we knew the end was going to
come at a certain time down the road, and she

(39:10):
had had to have a tracheostomy to put a trait
two dinner just so she could breathe. Because of the
type of cancer that she had, we would not have
been able to communicate, but for two purposes. One, she
had a little whiteboard with a drywall dry race marker,
and she became really fast at it, very adaptive, you

(39:33):
could write. But she became really fast at being able
to text, better than she ever had before. So I
think those things probably led me into that text world
a lot quicker than perhaps I might have otherwise, especially
if I had been childless, if I'd not had eternally

(39:54):
you know wife, those things, I think those elements kind
of pulled me into it a little bit more.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
So, that's the reasoning for some of that.

Speaker 4 (40:07):
But I do get the text about you know that
not textually active? Is that really a word? Texture?

Speaker 2 (40:16):
Jewally.

Speaker 4 (40:18):
I like it though, Uh some of else said I
got my Texas Football magazine because just like Seeway, I
love blue Bell chocolate chip ice cream years ago. I
want to copy on the giveaway. Yeah, it's my favorite
Bluebell flavor is their chocolate chip. It's just simply really
really good. Now, I do like I got lured into

(40:39):
the whole thing, the oatmeal cream pie flavor. And I've
always been a big banana pudding flavor, and that banana
fudge flavor that came out with is really really good.

Speaker 2 (40:52):
Feel free.

Speaker 4 (40:53):
By the way, if you've got a favorite flavor for
a Bluebell and you want to text that, that's okay.

Speaker 2 (40:56):
But again, somebody else said that, do it correctly.

Speaker 4 (40:58):
Craig, my dad I used to listen to long Horns
games in his car in the eighties when we didn't
have cable north of Houston. There you go, Yes, you
did it correctly. So I had to do is text
the word Texas and then you add your question, your comments.
So the way it reads to the texture I'm responding
is it reads Texas. You spell it in capital letters.
You don't have to do it in capitals, but that's okay.

(41:20):
And then did I do it correctly?

Speaker 2 (41:22):
Craig? Lol?

Speaker 4 (41:23):
FYI My dad and I used to listen to long
worn games and his cars in the eighties when we
didn't have cable north of Houston. That's amazing thing about
not having cable north Houston. And then and then somebody
else go Texas like with capital T and lowercase or
Texas and cap either way is fine because I have
to read that part of it.

Speaker 2 (41:44):
I'm just reading your text.

Speaker 4 (41:46):
So somebody said, Hey, I really missed being able to
hear you on the air the last two years. It's
great hearing you on the iHeartRadio app and on Twitter.
So that's Bevalance Jason. I'm coming up in and it's
two weeks from today is my two year anniversary being
back at iHeart. I came back here in August twenty

(42:11):
twenty three. Of course, when it was across town at
the other place, they shuddered, they closed their doors on
August the sixth, I think it was might have been, yeah,
right around in August sixth, twenty two days later, I
was on here, and so that's that's how that worked.
But and and so I have been on here and

(42:37):
kind of in my old shift, I when I first started,
I think I went two to four initially, and when
I first started back here, it was two to four,
but then we expanded back to two to five. Then
I was on obviously after Na Drive for years and
years and years. When I was over at the other place,
I wasn't the first three years of the sixth a half

(43:00):
years I was there, I did not do a show.
I did long orne reports, I did high school football reports,
I managed all their high school properties and did different
things as well as obviously the games. But and again
not to drag this down into a melancholia zone, but
it happened right after my wife had passed away, and

(43:21):
I wasn't feeling it at the time. I wasn't really
feeling up to doing a show, and they understood that
at the time and said, we really don't need that
right now. We need you to help us blah blah blah,
and the relationship with the network and the university, and
so this what it did for three years, and then
after three years I felt good about doing a daily
show again, and Jeff Howell was my co host. Cameron

(43:41):
Parker was young and up and coming part time producer,
and I saw how talented. He was, so when I
was off of the out opportunity to come back here,
I really wanted to bring him back over and did so.
And since then we've got some really talented producers. Marcus
in the Morning were for you know, for Harje and

(44:03):
Henry with the Morning Kickoff is great. Ronald Savage does
an outstanding job. We had antone like him in here. Uh,
you know we've had We've had lots of really good
producers in here as well, and we're we're gonna be
adding more coming in the very near future. One other
text before the break, somebody said, uh, let's see, I
want to wish I happy left handed data all my

(44:24):
fellow South Paul's out there. May our fingers be forever smudged.
I know lots of left handers in this world. Good
friend of mine, you heard him a couple of weeks
ago on here, Bill Shone, the who just retired from
being played by play voice of the San Antonio Spurs.
He's left handed. Uh. My best friend since college Alex Lorenz,

(44:48):
who lives up in the Dallas Forward area. And you
know I've told you about how he and I we
put ourselves through college selling T shirts at and other
merch on a concert tour and at Reunion Arena in
Dallas and what was then the Summit now it's Joel
Osteen's Church in Houston, and the Lloyd Dougles Center in Norman,
and what was in the Myriad in Norman, all these

(45:09):
different arenas, and went on tour with Journey in eighty
three and did all this kind of stuff.

Speaker 2 (45:15):
We did that back then.

Speaker 4 (45:16):
He still does it on the side, but he's in
more of a management position. He's left handed, so there
was that as well. Chuck in Houston says, you're the
best voice ever ever. Ever is a pretty powerful word there, Chuck,
I don't know, go down there, but thank you. If
it means anything to you, I have you just above
Keith Jackson. Hey, that is the highest of high praise

(45:37):
because he's pretty much viewed as being the greatest college
football broadcaster of all time. Keith Jackson, he was fabulous.
I did an interview with him one time before Texas
played Syracuse. This is nineteen ninety two, my first year
in the booth, and I'd been the studio anchor from
eighty eight through ninety one, and in ninety two, Bill
Shooning moved into the play by playroll and I became

(45:57):
the analyst our first season nineteen ninety two. Our first
game Texas against Mississippi State at dk R, John mckovic's
first game as head coach. Jackie Cheryl was coaching a
Missisippi State at the time. Mississippi State won that game
by a score of twenty eight to ten. They just
kind of pretty much controlled the entire game. The next
week we go up to Syracuse and Texas ended up

(46:22):
losing that game.

Speaker 2 (46:22):
I think it was thirty one to twenty one.

Speaker 4 (46:24):
But I got a chance to interview Keith Jackson was
working that telecas for ABC and he used it and
I always remember how nice he was, and I talked
to I asked him about do you are you in
a constant state of reading, studying, living, and breathing college
football even year round?

Speaker 2 (46:42):
He said, well, let me tell you, Craig.

Speaker 4 (46:44):
He said, after this game today, the missis and I
are going to go up to the rutten deck. So
we got to place up there and we're going to
sit down there and just take it all in. So no,
I don't do it three hundred and sixty five days
a year. I always remember him doing that. So and
then and then one other one other tech somebody said,
what was that one funny ice cream flavor that the

(47:05):
producer of Light the Tower fought was so weird? But
it was a grammatical error that was hilarious. I'll tell
you what that was, because that came down with when
I was reading through those meals, those og kind of
meals with our producer yesterday and tone, and it was

(47:26):
all of these kinds of foods and meals that boomers
that baby boomers ate that really aren't eaten anymore, like
liver and onions or Swiss steak, which was something I
really liked. And then there was fish sticks down there,
I'm here to tell you, And I said, my wife
and I both really we actually still like fish sticks.

(47:49):
When we're out of town on the coast. We like
fish and chips, you know, so about once a month
or so. In fact, I think we're doing it tonight.
We have what we call nineteen sixty five dinner, and
it's fish sticks mixed vegetables, you know, the green peas,
carrots and corn and mac and cheese. Can't you just

(48:10):
see that in a Swanson dinner in the little tinfoil.

Speaker 2 (48:16):
Trays. We called it nineteen sixty five dinner.

Speaker 4 (48:18):
The reason to bring that up is fishticks was one
of those deals on. This meals that that baby boomers ate. Well.

Speaker 2 (48:28):
Another thing that was on there was Vienna fingers.

Speaker 4 (48:32):
And I know a lot of people just kind of
shudder at the thought of eating those, or spam or
that kind of stuff. By the way, you're getting this
from a guy who enjoys when I'm on vacation on
the North Carolina Coast liver putting. It's not liver, and
it's not putting. It's like sausage and you fry it
up in a pant and have it with eggs, or
you can have it on a sandwich. I know it
probably grosses a lot peeped out, but I really like it.

(48:54):
And so Vienna sausages and you know when they come
in a little can like that. But what the texture
is referring to is we had a day on the
air where I asked folks to name their favorite blizzard
dessert from Dairy Queen, their favorite DQ Blizzard. That's because

(49:16):
they were coming out with some new flavor and we
were all going through it and going through it and
going through and reading all these you know, all the
all of these submissions on it, and I think Jeff
Howe's my co host, asked me. He said, well, what's
your favorite? And I said, well, it's one you really
can't get here in the Boston area unless you asked

(49:36):
for it them specifically to make it, and then if
they've got the ingredients to'll do it. But it was
one that I'd eaten and when I was out in
far West Texas, Alpine, Texas to be exact, way out west,
and we're doing the television show, the High School show
out there, and I go into a dairy queen there
an Alpine.

Speaker 2 (49:51):
It was very nice and they.

Speaker 4 (49:53):
Had a flavor called Berry Banana and Vienna Finger Blizzard,
so it was like strawberries, sliced bananas and then the cookie,
you know, the Vienna fingers, the little creamfield cookies, pieces.

Speaker 2 (50:08):
Of it and I just love that. Sir, I was
detailing it.

Speaker 4 (50:15):
I said, yeah, it's berry in banana and Vienna finger
and our producer, our old friends knup Daniel said, you
mean like the sausages. I was like, no, not Vienna sausage,
Vienna fingers, the cookies. So we had a lot of
fun with that and for a while. All Right, I'm
gonna get to this college football list coming up next.
There's some great text and like I said, always endeavor

(50:37):
to read your text if you've got them, and if
you want to, you can continue texting the show. You
text the word Texas follow by your question or comment
to eight one, five three zero. We'll continue on thirteen
under the zone. Fright, have you with us here on
this Tuesday? Excuse me not Tuesday Thursday afternoon? A couple

(50:59):
other from the text line and Chuck and Houston says,
cookies and cream is the best loves that for a
Blizzard flavor or no Blue Belt flavor, I can get it. Yeah. Uh,
you know, I used to love cookies and creams so much.
I kind of I burned myself out on it. I
ate it so much back I guess when it first

(51:22):
came out whatever it was eighties or whatever, nineties and
then and then I got kind of burned out on it.
For a long time. I just still like it, but
I have to do it in smaller, you know, smaller amounts.
As a result of that, somebody asked, what ever happened
to Snoop? He's still working in the marketplace. He still
he's around. I think he's working at at hip hop station,

(51:46):
so he said, recently discovered the iHeart app allows me
to listen to Texas Rangers. Eric Nadelle still does some games.
It's like finding W BAP and the Rockies. He still
is the lead guy, but he does take a little
more time off than he used to. He took a
lot of time off the year they won the World Series.
He took some time off for some physical ailments and

(52:07):
also he said, for a.

Speaker 2 (52:07):
Mental health break.

Speaker 4 (52:08):
But he came back in August and finished the season
and he's still working on a more than regular basis.
He's still the lead voice of the Texas Ranger. The
Hall of Famer Eric nadell There and See Pyle asked
about Holly row that around thirty years good in every
support she cover shoot, could she be interviewed, maybe went
in town?

Speaker 2 (52:28):
Would that be allowed? Maybe?

Speaker 4 (52:31):
I don't think I'm stretching it to say we're friends,
because again this goes back to you know, when I
lost my wife to cancer. Holly was going through cancer
treatments at that time, during those mid twenty teens, and
when she would.

Speaker 2 (52:47):
Come to town. She would ask how Laurie was doing.

Speaker 4 (52:49):
I was asking how she was doing, so we kind
of kind of kept in touch over that She's really
cool and healthy and vibrant and alive, and it is
a really good reporter. So I really enjoy enjoy how Okay,
this was the story that I wanted to get to.
And you know me, like I said, I read a

(53:09):
lot of public public publications, not only the annual magazines,
the daily newspapers, most of which now I read on
my iPad as a result of that, and also the
other streaming services like ESPN online, and also the Athletic,

(53:30):
And I've said I really liked the Athletic because it's
so wide ranging, and you know, I can find out
information on my Alama monl North Texas how they're doing,
or some other school as well as obviously they're great
coverage of the SEC and the Long Horns and all this,
and I like their coverage probably most of all the
national scene in college football, college basketball, those things they

(53:52):
do a deal like everybody else. I guess about rankings
and stuff like that, and I've read I've read the
their preseason All American team, but they also now this
is their fourth year in a row of doing this,
where they present college football coaching tiers where they rank
the coaches. Now, they don't rank first chear head coaches,

(54:14):
so Bill Belichick is not ranked, even though he's a
Hall of Fame NFL coach, But any success at lower
or higher levels of football comes into play once a
coach has spent at least one year running an FBS program,
and they said their evaluation is also solely based on
a person's work as a head coach, not as an assistant.

(54:37):
So coach is entering their second year like Sharon Moore
of Michigan and Bob Chesney of James Madison make their
debut on the list, they said, gone her big names
such as Mac Brown who's now retired, and Gus Malzon,
who is Florida State's offensive coordinator. So they have eight
tiers of this, ranging from Tier one multi time champs,

(54:58):
Tier two established winners, Tier three, high level consistency, Tier
four Rising Stars and steady hands. Tier five up and down,
Tier six show me seasons ahead, I mean, these could
be really important years for them. Tier seven Works in
progress in Tier eight hottest seats and freshest faces. Let

(55:25):
me start with that the ones listed on the hottest
seats and freshest faces Timmy Chang at Hawaii, Sunny Comby
at Louisiana Tech, Trent Dilfer at South Florida, Tony Elliott
at Virginia, Jeff Levy new to this category, the coach
at Mississippi State, Derek Mason at Middle Tennessee, Del McGhee

(55:46):
at Georgia State, Gerard Parker at Troy, Tony Sanchez at
New Mexico State, and Jay Sauvel at Wyoming Tier seven
works in progress. New to this list Trent Ray of
Oregon State, Jeff Choate, the former Texas assistant, the head
coach at Nevada, Deshaun Foster. They head coach at UCLA,

(56:08):
moving up from hot seat to works in prior, Clark
Lee at Vanderbilt, Joe moorehead at AKRON, Eric Morris at
North Texas, Ricky Rain at Old Dominion, Brent Prye at
Virginia Tech, Lance Taylor, I believe that's Western Michigan. Scotty
Walden is new to list the coach at UTEP and

(56:28):
Justin Wilcox at Cow Number six. Show me seasons are
head kind of an important he said this is a
collection of coaches who need to show more with a
few on the way up. So there's they say the
ones that are most under pressure in twenty twenty five.
David Brown at Northwestern, Sam Pittman at Arkansas, Scott Satterfield

(56:49):
at Cincinnati, and Brent Venables at Oklahoma under the most
pressure in twenty twenty five. Oklahomas two losing seasons in
the last twenty five years of both come under Venables
sandwiched around a ten and three seats, and Maryland's Mike
Loxley also drops a tier after a four and eight season.
So this group includes Major Applewhite at South Alabama, Tim

(57:12):
Beckett Coastal Carolina, David Brought at Northwestern, Jake Dicker at
wake Forest, Thomas Hammock at Northern Illinois, Mike Loxley at Maryland,
Brian Newberry of Navy, Jay Norvelle of Colorado State, Sam
Pittman at Arkansas, Scott Satafield at Cincinnati, Brent Vinnimles dropping
down into this category at Oklahoma, and Bryant Vincent of

(57:35):
ul Monroe Venomals dropped down from Tier number five. Tier
number five is up and down guys who have been
up and This is largely a group, as they say,
marked by highs and lows.

Speaker 2 (57:46):
Baylor's Dave Randa went.

Speaker 4 (57:48):
Twelve and two of the top five finish in twenty
and twenty one. He was three and nine two years later,
but of course he had a big turnaround towards the
end of last season. So it's coaches like that, and
this is a large group that includes these coaches, Dave
Randon Baylor, Brent Brennan in Arizona, Fran Brown of Syracuse,
Jason Kndall at Toledo, Bob Chesney at James Madison, Michael

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Desormo at Louisiana, Manny Diaz at Duke, Scott Frost at UCF,
Alex Gullish at USF, Clay Helton at Georgia Southern, Charles
Huff at Southern miss Butch Jones at Arkansas State, Brent
Key at Georgia Tech, GJ. Kenney at Texas State, Pete
Limbo Buffalo, Sean Lewis at San Diego State, Joey McGuire

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at Texas Tech. Moving up a spot from you that
show me seasons ahead into the up and down category
Jim Mora of Yukon and new to the list, Sharon
Moore in Michigan, Billy Napier Florida, Ken Neo Motololo at
San Jose State. We'll see him second week of the

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year when the long Worns play San Jose State in
the home opener, and Tyson Helton at Western Tier five
four excuse me. Tier four is rising Stars and steady Hands.
This tier includes a lot of coaches on the way up,
led by Shane Beemer moving up two spots and Kelly
Kenny Dillingham at Arizona State going up three for those

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so that group also includes Dion Sanders.

Speaker 2 (59:22):
So here's the.

Speaker 4 (59:24):
Group of rising stars and steady hands. Tim Alban at Charlotte,
Shane Bamer of South Carolina, Chris Creighton of Eastern Michigan,
Kenny Dillingham of Arizona State, Dave Dorn of n C State,
Mike Elco at Texas A and m jed Fish of Washington,
Casey Keeler at Temple, Chuck Martin of uh I'm not

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sure who have to look.

Speaker 2 (59:46):
At that, because that wouldn't be that would not be
Maryland on.

Speaker 4 (59:50):
That oh Miami, Ohio, Okay, Jeff Monkin at Army, Pat
and Ardouzi at Pitt Matt Ruhle at Nebraska, Bill of
Brina Boston College, Barry Odom at Purdue, Dion Sanders at Colorado,
Ryan Silverfield at Memphis, Greg Chiano of Rutgers, Kalone Sataki
at By You, and Jeff Trailer at UTSA. Those are

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in Tier four Rising Stars and Steady Hands Tier three
High Level Consistency. This is the largest tier. It's a
group of consistent winners, and it includes Brett Bielama of
Illinois up one spot, Jeff Brohm at Louisville, Troy Calhoun
at air Force, Matt Campbell at Iowa State, Jamie Chadwell
at Liberty, Mario Christobal at Miami. New to the list,

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Spencer Danielson at Boise State, Eli Drinkwitz at Missouri, Sunny
Dike's at TCU, Kirk Farrens at Iowa down one spot,
Luke Fickle at Wisconsin.

Speaker 2 (01:00:45):
Others PJ.

Speaker 4 (01:00:46):
Fleck at Minnesota, Hugh Freeze at Auburn, Willie Fritz at Houston,
Mike Gunny at Oklahoma State, Josh Heipel at Tennessee, Lane
Kiffin at Old miss Chris Climbing at Kansas State. Up
two spots, Rare at Lashley at SMU bronco men in
the Hall on the list, Dan Mullen back in coaching
at UNLV, new to the list, down one spot, Mike
Norvell at Florida State, and then finishing out the list,

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Rich Rodriguez and West Virginia, Jonathan Smith at Michigan State,
Mark Stoops at Kentucky and up one spot. John Sumrall
at Tulane Tier number two established winners. Kurt Signetti of
Indiana went up two spots getting them to the playoff
last year. Ryan Day at Ohio State. Winning a national
championship will do that for you. Kaylin de Boor at Alabama,

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James Franklin at Penn State Market up one spot, Marcus
Freeman at Utre Dame, up two spots, Brian Kelly at LSU,
Dan Lanning of Oreon up one spot, Lance light Polled
at Kansas Lincoln, Riley at USC, Steve Sarkeesian in Tier two,
up one spot from the high level consistency and now

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in the established winners. Going twenty five and five the
last two years will do that. I remember when he
was thirteen and twelve three years ago and they were
questioning him twenty five and five. The last two years,
so he's in that Tier two, and so is Kyle
winning him of you Tom. Finally, Tier one's the smallest
group multi time champs. There's only two guys on that list,
Kirby Spart and Dabbo Sweeney. They're the ones on there.

Speaker 2 (01:02:16):
So there it is.

Speaker 4 (01:02:17):
That's the coaching rankings according to the Athletic.

Speaker 2 (01:02:20):
We have a much more fun.

Speaker 4 (01:02:23):
Ranking to get to in the four o'clock hour, we'll
do that, but we had some more coming up here
on thirteen hunderd Zone. I'm gonna have some more NFL
notes next hour, but there was one that just kind
of caught my attention. This just came down just a
few minutes ago. You know how NFL teams have these

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joint practices where they go up against one of the
other rams and the Cowboys did it last week, the Browns,
and I was trying to remember who they were practicing
with this week. Maybe it was the Giants they were
doing that. Well, apparently the Ravens and Commanders were supposed

(01:03:08):
to practice, and that makes perfect sense because they don't
go far away for their training camps and they're even
back kind of in their home locations now, so it
made sense really for the Ravens and the Commanders. The

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Ravens are in Baltimore, the commanders are forty miles away
in Washington, and it made sense that the teams would
get together and have a joint practice, have a scrimmage.
They called it off, and the reason that they called
it off was what they said was that it was

(01:03:55):
logistical problems. So that made me think, what do you
mean there's logistical problems? So it's going to be two
teams forty miles away? Did they not get enough buses
booked for one team or the other? Could they not
agree to practice either with the Commander's hosting or the

(01:04:17):
Ravens that maybe they could have gone to College Park,
you know, we're University of Maryland's in between the two.

Speaker 2 (01:04:23):
I don't know, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:04:25):
I just thought that odd, very odd, But that word
just came down that they canceled their joint practice as
a result of that. All right, we'll be back coming
up here on thirteen hundred Zone, third and final hour
of the program. Here, I'm thirteen hundred the Zone. Glad
to have you with us this afternoon. Craig wait with
you here, joined by the producer that would be Ronald

(01:04:46):
Savage Junior. Glad to have you with us, and we're
with you up until five o'clock. We will be back
with you tomorrow. Tomorrow, being a Friday, we'll hear from
Long Wran football players. They a media availability late this afternoon.
We'll hear some of those conversations.

Speaker 2 (01:05:05):
Tomorrow.

Speaker 4 (01:05:07):
Also we will talk Major League Baseball with Gene Watson,
our Baseball Insider, our weekly conversation with Geno to talk
about those that are you know, really on the hot streak,
like the team that is Sun Works for the San
Diego Padres. Like I said, they're in this sole possession

(01:05:28):
of first place now they've been on the hot streak.
And the Dodgers, I think are something like twelve and
twenty since mid July, they've fallen out of first place.
So we'll have that and then also tomorrow tomorrow is
the Music Survey. And in the Music Survey, you know,

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this is something we do on Fridays during the summertime,
and we do it at the three o'clock hour on
Fridays in the summertime, and we have a variety of
people take the survey. For those of you who don't
know what it is, The survey is a list of questions.

(01:06:13):
It used to be eleven. I added one to it
this year. There's now a total of twelve questions. And
the first eleven came from my friends George dunhaman Craig Miller,
who on the morning the Ticket in Dallas. The three
of us were in college together, and I heard this
when I was listening to their show a little over
three years ago, and I really really liked it. So

(01:06:33):
I did it when I was at the other station,
and it proved very popular. But I hadn't done it
in three years until this summer. We decided to bring
them back because we had some new people and those
of us who had taken it before would probably have
some different answers to some of these questions.

Speaker 2 (01:06:48):
That was exactly the case.

Speaker 4 (01:06:49):
It was exactly the case for my cardball Harge who
took it three years ago. It was exactly the case
for me who took it three years ago. It was
exactly the case for Cameron Parker who took it three
years ago. So there were people who took it back then,
and then there were several people who had not taken it.
But Mark Henry had not taken the music survey before.

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Bill Schoening had not taken the music survey before the
recently retired voice of the Spurs, we had him come in.
Roger Wallace, my broadcast partner on Long Orange Football and
in Baseball, had not taken it before he took it
this year. So it's a pretty intriguing and somewhat revealing questionnaire,

(01:07:33):
not only about the bands and artists and musicians that
we like and don't like, but just kind of what
was going on in our lives during all of this.
So tomorrow we have two of these left tomorrow and
then the next Friday week for tomorrow is the last
one of the season. So tomorrow Bob Blue, sports director
at KI will come over and last Bob also about

(01:07:55):
his podcast, this new podcast he's doing with Mac Brown
and Vince Young. So it looks great so far, so
we'll talk to Bob about that. But Bob Blue will
take the music survey tomorrow in the three o'clock hour
of the program. Hey, but before I get on to
the other thing that I wanted to get to here,
I mentioned that we all remember a one special teacher

(01:08:20):
who made a difference, who kind of believed in us,
challenged us, just kind of made learning fun. I mentioned
yesterday one of the ones I really liked was my
ninth grade television production teacher, Wayne Jacobs. And I had
a history teacher who I mean I learned about the
history of the South. I mean I got out of there.
I think I knew Robert E. Lee's underwear size. He

(01:08:42):
was that thorough. It was really really good, mister say
mister Haney, and it was, but not the one from Green.

Speaker 2 (01:08:51):
Acres, Darryl Haney.

Speaker 4 (01:08:54):
And so I had different teachers, and I'm sure we
all did well. Right now, it's your chance to say
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(01:09:38):
Klepping in Wimberley, Deanna Krueger in Austin, Heather Lloyd in Butta,
and also Cash Treviso in at the Kipp School at
Kipsomos Collegiate High School. So anyway, there's there's some nominees

(01:10:00):
for this week, so congratulations to them and we hope
it goes well for them. And like we said, you
can nominate one as well. iHeartRadio dot com slash teachers
if you want to do that. Okay, I want to
get to this story because as I mentioned, this is
the time of year. It really kind of starts in

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July but really ramps up in August when you start
seeing these different rankings and polls that.

Speaker 2 (01:10:32):
Come out.

Speaker 4 (01:10:32):
So they have all these different rankings and polls. And
this week you had the AP Top twenty five College
Pole come out. Last week was the Coaches Top twenty
five Pole come out. There's been all American teams, there's
other ranking systems, and this is how we also the
next signpost. It tells us we're getting closer to the

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start of the college football season because and this was
something you know, when I was mentioning the Music Survey
I said, I got it from my friend's Dunham and
Miller at the Ticket. Very few things are really much
original anymore. They're just modifications or variations of different ideas.
What I'm about to read to you is also a

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modification and a variation. This is ESPN's twenty twenty five
preseason college football Bottom Ten, in other words, the ten
worst ranked teams in FBS football. Now, this is not original.
This originally came from a syndicated piece back in the eighties.
I remember reading it in the Dallas Times Herald every week,

(01:11:41):
the Bottom ten and very It was a syndicated column
that a college football writer did, and it was extremely entertaining.
But I will tell you this, even though this is
a variation of it, it's almost identical in its structure
and it's witticisms. Because for ESPN it's put out and
authored by Ryan McGee, who is one of my very favorites.

(01:12:04):
Hilarious guy see him reporting on ESPN and then writing
for ESPN dot Com.

Speaker 2 (01:12:09):
I got to know him. Gosh, I guess there's been
eight years ago the.

Speaker 4 (01:12:14):
First time when I won Texas Sportscast through the Year
award and I went to North Carolina for the banquet,
the awards banquet in Winston Salem, and just by random,
you know, I was up there and I took my
mom with me. Again, I'd been recently widowed, and I
took my mom with me because she could see some

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old friends in North Carolina as well.

Speaker 2 (01:12:36):
But she went to the dinner.

Speaker 4 (01:12:37):
So we go there and just by commplete happenstance, they
seated me next to Ryan McGee. Now, my mom was
seated next to John Anderson, the ESPN longtime sports anchor,
and she proceeded to embarrass me and talk incessantly about
me and all that kind of stuff, which was unfortunate.
But he took it all in good stride. But Ryan

(01:12:58):
McGee's a hilarious guy and I got it. Had a
lot of lass with him that night. Well, he puts
together the Bottom ten every week. This comes out every week.
It's a pole I guess of their ESPN staff and
and he puts it together and he writes about it.
And and if you go online and you read it,
you read the hilarious stuff he writes about what has

(01:13:20):
launched him into.

Speaker 2 (01:13:23):
This poll, and.

Speaker 4 (01:13:26):
Uh, you know what the the like I said, the
witticisms and the quips that he has.

Speaker 2 (01:13:33):
It's it's very funny.

Speaker 4 (01:13:36):
So I'm gonna read these, and I'm actually going from
ten up to one, because remember the worst team is
the number one ranked team in the bottom ten. It's
in flip reverse order. So I'm read, I'm gonna read
up to a startament number ten. Well, first of all,
there's what's called the waiting list, and again he gives nicknames,

(01:13:58):
just like they used to win the bottom ten years ago.
So his waiting list has these schools on it. Georgia State,
not Southern, because there is a Georgia state and a
Georgia Georgia State, not Southern. Baller State, he means ball state.
Akron ammonious, that's Akron, Temple of Doom. That would be Temple.

Speaker 2 (01:14:23):
Ulm. That's Louisia, mo and Roe he goes pronounced.

Speaker 4 (01:14:30):
Utped that's utep, muddled Tennessee meaning middle Tennessee. Uh So, anyway,
so there's there's the bottom ten and he adds coach
girlfriend headline. So who knows, maybe some of those come in.

Speaker 2 (01:14:44):
All right, His.

Speaker 4 (01:14:45):
Number ten team is I'm in del laware. They went
nine to two last year in the FCS, but now
they're going FBS for the first time, and he said,
the fighting Blue Hens are moving on up, bringing a
very different resume to the FBS job fair. Delaware claimed
six national titles five and Division two and the two

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thousand and three FCS Championship.

Speaker 2 (01:15:09):
Plus it was the.

Speaker 4 (01:15:10):
First program of the level formerly known as one Double
A to draw more than twenty thousand fans per game.
The Blue Hens open the season versus Delaware State, not
to be confused with state, with the state of Delaware.
If they had to fight in the entire state of Delaware,
that wouldn't seem fair. Though, if it was set to
the music of George Thoroughgood and there was Blue Crab

(01:15:30):
being deserved like the Delaware Destroyers, I would be totally there.
So all right, So that's number ten, and you get
the kind of quirky view he takes on this number
nine is He calls it Misery state Missouri State. They
also are coming off FCS, the former one Double A
into Division one. Number nine, he goes, speaking of moving
up the FBS, the Bears are doing so after one

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hundred and fifteen years of playing at lower levels. During
that time, they posted an FCS playoff regular one in
four in a bowl wartar of and four, including two
losses in the Mineral Water Bowl College Football Playoff. Here
they come Number eight. Is fi not a you? That's
how he put does it? You know it's FIU, not FAU.

(01:16:14):
FI not AU. They come off a four and eight season,
he says, the Panthers not Owls because FIU is the Panthers,
FAU is the Owls. Florid Atlantic because the Panthers not Owls.
Moved up to FBS football nearly twenty five years ago,
and since then, I've posted only four winning seasons, their
last coming in their legendary nine and four campaign in
twenty eighteen that ended with a win in the Popeyes

(01:16:37):
Bahamas Bowl. Over the past five years, they've averaged two
point six wins. Exactly how I feel after I've eaten
too much Popeyes. Number seven, he calls it living on
Tulsa time. Tulsa is coming off a three and nine record.
The Golden Hurricane lost to the last four games of
twenty twenty four by surrendering an average fifty five points

(01:16:57):
seven five points per contest. It was the most excruciating
finish we've been forced to witness since the Game of
Thrones finale number six, which is New Mexico State, he
labels them whew. Mexico State sources have also told bottom
ten George Center as they say that New Mexico State

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officials have looked into the possibility not playing any games
this year and instead of hosting stadium jumbo tron sec
network parties to see all their former players winning games
at Vanderbilt, like diable go popy of the quarterback number five,
the state you fighting accountants.

Speaker 2 (01:17:40):
And you're like, what what? This was the story I
read yesterday?

Speaker 4 (01:17:45):
Between revenue sharing and payrolls and school shoe deals promising
unprecedented nil payouts and the Kansas nay Hawks, he says,
receiving a three hundred million dollar donation and players kind
of sort of not really gambling in court settlements that
we're supposed to fix everything, but then we can find
that out.

Speaker 2 (01:18:03):
That no, there's more that has to be sorted out.

Speaker 4 (01:18:06):
To players' parents complaining about unfulfilled financial promises, to everyone
from Tom Brady to Shane Gillis telling us that college
sports cash is screwed up, but no one has any
real solutions. Can we please just kick off the games already.
Number four is Southern Missed meeting Southern mess but adding
the dy they come off a one in eleven season.

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The twenty twenty five roster of Brett Favre Disaster Relief
You has seventeen transfers from the SEC, nine from the
Big twelve and five from the ACC. The last time
that there were this many out of towners in Hattiesburg,
they were on their way to siege Vicksburg.

Speaker 2 (01:18:43):
Number three.

Speaker 4 (01:18:46):
U mess, which he calls you mess. They were two
and ten a year ago.

Speaker 2 (01:18:52):
He said.

Speaker 4 (01:18:52):
The Amherst Amblers are indeed back where the bottom ten
football gods want them, rejoining mactionin after nearly a decade
or They were in the MAC the Mid America Conference
from twenty twelve to twenty fifteen, during which time they
won eight games over four seasons. Then they went rogue,
during which time they were in eighteen wins over nine seasons.
It is weird to leave a conference and then return,

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is it?

Speaker 2 (01:19:15):
Sure?

Speaker 4 (01:19:15):
But did we really believe that a group of minute
men could resist the idea of independence? Number two is
Kennesau State that's in Georgia. He calls it Kennesaus Mountain
landis State after the old baseball commissioner, and they went
to and ten a year ago.

Speaker 2 (01:19:30):
Our bottom ten.

Speaker 4 (01:19:30):
George's Center Investigative unit has discovered a pile of wilted
flowers and an accompanying thank you note found in a
dumpster behind the Kent State football offices with a Kennesau
State return address. The card reads, thank you for batching
your coach firing so bad it made people forget our
even worse coach firing at all. Love the owls, not

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the one at Rice or Fau or Temple. Why were
we digging through the dumpster at Kent because we heard
that Greg Backory said Nick Saban was going back to
coach is alma mater? Not likely number one. Yes, it
is Kent State, or as they call him, State of Kent.
They went oh to twelve last year the Golden Flashes did.
They are the defending bottom ten champs, and he says,

(01:20:14):
the defending bottom ten champs have lost twenty one games
in a row and fired coach Kenny Burns, but they
let him stick around until spring practice had already started,
and said they didn't fire him because his record was
won in twenty three, but rather because of a list
of reasons presented by university leaders. This included maxing out

(01:20:34):
his twenty thousand dollars P card, which stands for personal card,
not something the doctor has you use to check your
alkaline levels. PE card. So there it is. There's the
bottom ten. We'll check it every week. But that's the
preseason bottom ten where Kent State is the defending champion
of that. All right, we've got a more newsworthy college

(01:20:59):
foot note to get, a pro football note to get to,
and some more college football as well when we continue
right here on thirteen under the Zone.

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a drummer in the band whisk I, asked him to
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do have another college football note to get to, and
that and then also a pro football note. The college

(01:24:21):
football note this was a there was a lot of
talk about this last year.

Speaker 2 (01:24:29):
Because it was all pretty fresh last year, and.

Speaker 4 (01:24:37):
I'm talking about Michigan, and I'm talking about the signs dealing,
and you know what came down with the advanced scouting thing,
and the NCAA Committee on Infractions has been investigating this.

Speaker 2 (01:24:56):
Thing for over a year.

Speaker 4 (01:25:00):
They charged Michigan and numerous coaches and staffers with eleven violations.
Six of those are Level one violations, So those are
the most serious in relation to that sign stealing operation
overseen by Connor Stallions, the former staffer who is alleged
to have arranged for people to attend games in film

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the sideline signals involving future Michigan opponents from twenty twenty
one to the middle of the twenty twenty three season,
when the scheme was uncovered and Stallions resigned. Stealing signs
is in games is not against NCAA rules. It's not
against the rules to steal signs. However, schools are not

(01:25:42):
allowed to scout opponents in advance in person. So evidence
emerged of Stallions purchasing tickets at nearly every Big Ten school.
And remember the one deal the game when he was
at the Western Michigan game Western Michigan. I guess I
think it was against Michigan State and he was on

(01:26:02):
the Western Michigan sideline in a jacket, a Western Michigan
jacket or something like that. Anyway, Stallions, according to a
draft of the notice of allegations, arranged the impermissible scouting
of at least thirteen future opponents on at least fifty
eight occasions from twenty twenty one to twenty twenty three.

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That included scouting opponents multiple times, including one team that
was watched seven times in twenty twenty two. According to
the draft, g I wonder who that might be, probably
Ohio State. Michigan coach Sewan Moore is expected to be
suspended for at least two games in the upcoming season
for deleting a thread of fifty two text messages with Stallions.

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One of the mysteries of this upcoming ruling is whether
the self imposed sanction will be accepted or if there's
any additions to it. Michigan asked for that two game
ban to be served during the Wolverinees third and fourth games,
and Michigan and all of its current and former coaches
involved in the matter have said they were unaware of

(01:27:13):
Stallion's alleged advanced scouting, so he was rogue he was
doing it all on his own right anyway. So the
Committee on Infractions are going to reveal their ruling in
this case tomorrow. The involved parties were made aware of

(01:27:33):
it today, so it is coming down tomorrow. That's when
we're going to find out exactly how extensive it is
and what the discipline is and what the penalties are.
Potential penalties for the other Michigan coaches involved could include suspensions,

(01:27:56):
significant fines, and other measures. Those are more than more
likely than any significant program penalties for Michigan other than
a pretty hefty fine. In other words, I don't think
you're going to see them stripped of scholarships or television
or bowl band or anything like that. But there could

(01:28:17):
be show calls penalties, you know, that worked like a
type of employment band that could be leveled on Jim Harball.
Of course, Harball left to take the job with the
Los Angeles Chargers, but he could be hit with a
show calls penalty, much like Kelvin Sampson was after he
left Indiana.

Speaker 2 (01:28:38):
Following his time in Oklahoma, he was out of.

Speaker 4 (01:28:40):
The game for five years, was scouting and then an
assistant with the Houston Rockets in the NBA, and now,
of course back in coaching the Houston Cougars has been
doing so, but Harball, Stallions and other former assistant coaches
named in the report could be hit with show cause penalties.

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Remember the Big Ten suspended Harball for three games to
conclude the twenty twenty three regular season under the league's
sportsmanship rules, and then last year he received a four
year show cause penalty from the NCAA tied to a
separate case where he was found to have improper contact
with recruits. Moore was charged with failure to cooperate for

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deleting that text thread, which was later recovered with Stallions.

Speaker 2 (01:29:29):
He said, how's that recovered?

Speaker 4 (01:29:30):
He was probably recovered through Stallion's phone. That happened on
October nineteenth, the day the scandal broke, was when he
erased all.

Speaker 2 (01:29:40):
Those text messages, fifty two of them.

Speaker 4 (01:29:43):
The messages, according to the NCAA case, did not include
any information to suggest that Sharon Moore knew what Stallions
was doing.

Speaker 2 (01:29:52):
Even though we're the fifty two texts.

Speaker 4 (01:29:53):
More is considered a potential repeat violator by the ncaaighty
because in August twenty twenty three, he negotiated a resolution
to claims that he contacted recruits during a COVID nineteen
recruiting dead period, and he later served a one game suspension.
That's why he could be in more trouble for this,

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because he's a repeat violator. And of course, in twenty
twenty three, after Stallion's resignation, Michigan went only won the
national title, and then Jim Harbold left Wolverine a number
fourteen preseason poll. They opened the season and home against
New Mexico on August thirtieth, and then they go to
Oklahoma the Saturday after that on the sixth, So it's

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going to be interesting to see where that rolls down.
All right, stay with us, We've got I have a
pro football note to get to and the NBA schedules out.

Speaker 2 (01:30:49):
Talk about that coming up on thirteen.

Speaker 4 (01:30:50):
Under his own navigating our way through a Thursday afternoon,
and they glad to have you with us as well.
On the text line, he said, we all watched enough
dayline to know that there's much more to that Michigan story.
I think we're gonna find out a lot more tomorrow
when it's all made public, and then somebody else texted him.

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TCU coaches were worn by other coaches before their game
with Michigan about the science dealing. That was a crazy
fiesta ball at TCU ended up winning in that game
before Georgia obliterated him in the National Championship. But yes,
see Palace at APS all time All American Team, one
hundred year anniversary team is out, he said. Earl Camel's

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done all day. Must have been some amazing running backs on.
So I haven't seen it yet, but I'll look for that.
There was another another story that I wanted to get to,
and this was an NFL related story, and you would

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probably had been hearing more and more of late about
this lawsuit that Brian Flores, who is now the Minnesota
Vikings defensive coordinator and the former Miami Dolphin's head coach,
was suing the NFL, and today a court, a federal

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appeals court ruled in favor of Brian Flores, saying that
the NFL can be put on trial over civil claims
that Brian Flores and other black coaches do face discrimination,
finding insurmountable flaws with a league arbitration process that would

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permit the Commissioner, Roger Goodell to serve as an arbitrator
the Second US Circuit Court of Appeals in Manhattan upheld
Judge Valerie Caproni's ruling that Flores can proceed with claims
against the league and three teams, the Denver Broncos, the
New York Giants, and.

Speaker 2 (01:33:02):
The Houston Texans.

Speaker 4 (01:33:04):
In a decision written by Circuit Judge Jose Cabranis, the
appeals court said the NFL rules forcing Flores to submit
his claims to arbitration before Goodell do not have the
protection of the Federal Arbitration Act because they provide for
arbitration in name only. In other words, if Goodell is judge,

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jury and executioner in this deal, it's not fair. They said.
The NFL's constitution's arbitration provision quote contractually provides for no
independent arbitraal forum, no bilateral dispute resolution, and no procedure.

Speaker 2 (01:33:49):
Quote.

Speaker 4 (01:33:50):
Instead, it offers basic presumptions of arbitration jurisprudence by forcing
claims to be decided by the NFL's principal execusative officer.
So Flora's attorneys, Douglas Wigner, David Gottlieb, and John LF.

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Tracas said, in a statement of significance of the Second
Circuit's decision cannot be overstated. For far too long, the
NFL has relied on a fundamentally biased and unfair arbitration process,
even in cases involving serious claims of discrimination. This ruling
sends a clear message that practice that practice must end.

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This is a victory not only for NFL employees, but
for workers around the country and for anyone who believes
in transparency, accountability, and justice. The NFL spokesperson Brian McCarthy said,
we respectfully disagree with the panel's.

Speaker 2 (01:34:45):
Ruling and we'll be seeking further review.

Speaker 4 (01:34:48):
Good luck to you, because I think this thing is
going to go to trial now for those of you who
need the refreshing about it. In February twenty twenty two,
Flora sued the NFL and those teams, saying the league
was rife with racism, particularly in its hiring and promotion.

Speaker 2 (01:35:05):
Of black coaches.

Speaker 4 (01:35:06):
Other coaches later joined the lawsuit as plaintiffs, and after
filing his lawsuit, Floria said he believed he was risking
the coaching career he loves by suing the NFL, but
he said it would be worth it for generations to
come if he could succeed in challenging systemic racism in
the league. Well right now, he's a defensive coordinator for
the Vikings, after working previously as a coach for the

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Patriots from twenty eight to twenty eighteen, the Dolphins twenty
nineteen to twenty twenty one, in the Steelers in twenty
twenty two.

Speaker 2 (01:35:35):
He joined the Vikings two years ago.

Speaker 4 (01:35:37):
The Circuit Judge Caproni said in a decision two years
ago that descriptions by the coaches of their experiences of
racial discrimination in the league, with a long history of
systemic discriminations toward black players, coaches, and managers, is incredibly troubling.
Although the clear majority of professional football players are black,
only a tiny percentage of the coaches are black. She said.

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She ruled in twenty twenty three that Flores must pursue
his claims against the Dolphins, who had fired him, and
that he must do it through arbitration. So this thing's
going to go to trial, or probably will. So it's
going to be really interesting to see where this where
this rolls out from there, and who knows if it's

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indeed going to, you know, result in something from a
but he did say that, you know, if it didn't
work out in his case, the fact that it could
work out in you know, giving an opportunity for other

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black head coaching candidates to benefit from this would be
a good thing. That's a pro football note. Here's a
college football note. The Big Twelve, which is usually, as
I've said for many years, active not proactive, are being
reactive again, although it's in a good way. They're following

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the SEC's lead of releasing player availability reports for football
and men's and women's basketball before all conference games. So
beginning the season between football teams will submit daily injury
and player availability reports, starting three days before each conference game.
Players will be designated available, probable, questionable, doubtful, or out.
This is the exact duplication what the SEC has been doing.

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Men's and women's basketball teams will submit reports the night
before the conference games, listing the players either as available,
game time decision routes. Final reports will do ninety minutes
before they start. This is exactly the same as the SEC.
The other powerfol conference is already issue availability reports. The
Big Ten introduced the reports for football and men's and
women's basketball in twenty twenty three. The SEC followed in

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twenty twenty four, and the ACC started in July, including
baseball on the list of participations. Way it happens in
baseball as well. In it happens in baseball in the
SEC as well, and it says the moves by the

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conferences are intended in part the curtail harassment of athletes
by betters seeking information about injuries or availability, because it
is a big thing.

Speaker 2 (01:38:21):
It's happening an awful lot. There was a there was
a piece.

Speaker 4 (01:38:27):
Both ESPN dot Com and The Athletic both had pieces
this week on athlete harassment that it had really really
spiked up this past year, and so they're trying to
see if they can if they can do that change

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that curtail that I mentioned that the NBA schedules out
the brand new twenty twenty six schedule, and two of
the biggest return games of the season will take place
within a single week in November. The vast majority of
the schedule for all thirty NBA teams released on ESPN's

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NBA today on November twenty fourth, Kevin Durant will go
back to Phoenix for the first time November of the
Houston Rockets. On November twenty eighth, Anthony Davis will return
to Los Angeles as the Dallas Mavericks will face the
Lakers in one of those NBA Cup Group games. Each
team now knows eighty of the eighty two games that

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they'll play. The opening week and the holiday games, as
well as the NBA Cup Group schedule, were announced earlier
this week. The Lakers and the Mavericks are going to
meet three other times this season, in Dallas on January
twenty fourth, on February twelfth in Los Angeles, and April
fifth in Dallas. On February first, exactly one year after

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the Lakers played at Madison's Square Guard against the Knicks,
only for the Luka Doncicz trade to happen right after
the game, the Lakers Knicks will square off again at MSG.
What about the defending champion Oklahoma City Thunder, you ask,
They have a lot of big matchups, most of those
are over the back half of the schedule. Kevin Durant

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and the Rockets will be there for the ring ceremony
for Oklahoma City on opening nights on October twenty first.
Houston will be back in Oklahoma City on February seventh,
and the Thunder will make their only trip to Houston
on January fifteenth. The Thunder will first see the Minnesota Timberwolves,
who they've beaten the Western Conference Finals this past season,

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on November twenty sixth, that is the night before Thanksgiving,
and they will play again on March fifteenth to play
Minnesota twice on December nineteenth of January twenty ninth. All right,
so the NBA schedules out now, and then they'll fix
all of the other Cup Group games from that.

Speaker 2 (01:41:03):
All right. We'll wrap up today's edition of the program
here on thirteen under the Zone