Cowboys Finding Their Stride, A Jam-Packed HSFB Slate, and yes, More Cowbell.

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Speaker 1 (00:10):
It may be Tuesday, and that's just simply means, let's say,
busy day, an exciting day, and we're glad to be
with you. Good afternoon, everybody. Welcome to a Tuesday edition
of the program here on Sports Radio AM thirteen under
the Zone. My name is Craig Way. Thanks so much
for joining us. We do appreciate that I said, Bisney busy, busy.

(00:31):
I'm Disney busy. Here's what we've got that's busy for you.
Here in the two o'clock hour, we're gonna hear from
Dallas Cowboys head coach Brian Schottenheimer. We will hear from
Houston Texans head coach Dimiko Ryans some pro football conversation.

(00:53):
We'll hear from Jerry Jones, the Cowboys owner, president, and
general manager. That'll be happening in the two o'clock hour.
Of course, we have inconceivable here in the two o'clock
hour as well, in the three o'clock hour, our weekly
conversation with Greg Tepper, editor in chief Dave Campbell's Texas

(01:14):
Football Magazine, as we discuss college football and high school football.
And then in the four o'clock hour, Brad Sham played
by play voice of the Dallas Cowboys will be with us. So,
like I said, we've got a busy time. On top
of that, you know what else we have? We have.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
Hey now, all right?

Speaker 1 (01:34):
So the producer of courses is Jay Herman, and we
started a contest yesterday and we're going to continue. We're
doing this contest rat of course of the week at
a lot of participation in it yesterday and it evolves
the use of cow bell. Long Worn Football Team will

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be in Starkville, Mississippi, this Saturday afternoon. It's a three
point fifteen kickoff which you can hear right here on
thirteen hundred The Zone and also on ninety eight point
one fmk VET and in addition to ninety eight point
one fmk VET and here, it is also available on

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one of three point one FM Austin's eighty stations. Sow anyway,
we have the game for you. Our coverage will begin
a little over four hours prior to kickoff at eleven
am with a third and Long Worn podcast guys their
preview of it. Then at noon it's Longhorn's Game Day
with my cardball Harge joining Cameron Parker and the world

(02:44):
strongest man Mark Henry So they're going to be bringing
you the program, the Long Orange Game Day program. At
noon at two o'clock, we have the Network pre game
from Davis Wade Stadium in Startville. Roger Wallis and Will
Matthews will join me then the kick off. Like I
said about three fifteen Texas and Mississippi State, Now, if

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you know anything about Mississippi State football, you know that
their fans are notorious for bringing cow bells. Now they
have the clappers inside that you know that they just
ring constantly and you.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
Don't get to hear it like a melodic cow bell.
It just drowns. The whole place out.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
Is just going like this. You know, this particular cowbol
does not have a clapper inside, so it's just you know.
That was antone our resident intern hand It brought these
in cow bell and a drumstick, probably one of his
old used drumstick since he's he is a drummer, and

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he brought those in there. So we decided to do
a a contest because the Mississippi State fans bring cow
bells to the game. As we decided to a contest
what song best employees the use of a cow bell? Now,

(04:08):
before you automatically think Don't Fear the Reaper by Blue
Oyster Cult. I think a lot of us think about that.
I'm not sure it's the best one, but it doesn't matter.
We've removed it from the equation because of the popularity,
uh that it drew from the Saturday Night Live skit.
And it's great. Uh, it's it's it's great. Just just hearing,
just just hearing Christopher Walkin as Bruce Dickinson say, I

(04:34):
gotta have more cow bell.

Speaker 3 (04:35):
You know.

Speaker 1 (04:36):
That's that that that's just golden. It's just radio gold.
It was television gold. That's radio gold as well. But
the last time I checked, we don't have a whole
lot of songs that feature the cow bell. I gotta
have my cow bell. Gotta be doing myself a disservice.

Speaker 2 (04:52):
But I remember this band.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
If I didn't performed the hell.

Speaker 4 (04:55):
Out of this, guess what I got a thief and
the only prescription is mak caw bet.

Speaker 1 (05:04):
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, So we got that fever as well.
So here's what we're doing. We'd like to hear from
you on what song best employees use to the cow bell?
Do not include Don't Fear the Reaper because that's that's ineligible. Also,
we let you know, and I'll tell you about three
not to include simply because they've already been submitted. And

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the way that we would break a tie is the
first person to submit a specific song. If that's the
song that gets chosen, then the first person who submitted
it will win. And what are they winning? A pair
of tickets to the Texas Vanderbilt game a week from Saturday.
That's the prize. Here's how you enter. You download the

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iHeartRadio app, free and easy on your smartphone. Then you
search AM thirteen hundred the zone you'll pop straight up.
When it pops up, you'll see two buttons. What you
want to do is push the little red button that
has the white microphone in it, and you leave a message.
It can be up to thirty seconds, and say, hey,
I think the best song to do is Mississippi Queen

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by Mountain, which has already been submitted. That's why I
said don't submit that. Or Honky Tonk Woman by the
Rolling Stones that's already been submitted. Good Times Bad Times
by led Zeppelin, that's already been submitted. But there's lots
of songs out there that employ the cow bell, So
that's it, So make sure do it. Download the iHeartRadio

(06:27):
app search AM thirteen under the zone and then after
you do that, you push the red button with the
white microphone and leave us a voice message and say, hey,
I think the best song that employees use to the
cowbo is and you say it. If it gets picked
and your suggestion of it came up before somebody else's,

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then you'll win those two tickets to the Texas Banderbilt
game next week. So anyway, that's what else we're doing.
What happened last night, Well, there was the doubleheader of
Money Night Football, and we'll hear from Demiko Ryan's later on.
As the Texans lost at Seattle twenty seven to nineteen.
The first game, Detroit Lions just kind of dominated the

(07:09):
Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Really surprised folks how much they just
really shut down Baker Mayfield and the Bucks offense. They
couldn't get anything going last night.

Speaker 5 (07:18):
Yeah, poor Mike Evans. It seems like that thousand yard
streak is finally over with the both the concussion and
the collar boat injury picked up last night. Hate seeing that,
and they're gonna need Chris Godwin back because it can't
just be a Mecca Buca as great as Baker Mayfield is.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
Yeah. Right, So you had the doubleheader of Monday Night
football and then you had Game seven in the American
League Championship Series, and it lived up to the building
of the Game seven. It was a great Game seven.
Seattle in Toronto playing in Toronto. Seattle got a home
run from Julio Rodriguez. They got a home run from

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Cal Rawley, the big Dumper. They were up three to
one in the bottom of the seventh inning and Toronto
put a couple of runners on and the Mariners manager
Dan Wilson had gone to the bullpen, but had decided

(08:16):
that what he wanted to do Bizardo was to stick
with Edward Bizardo in instead of going to his closure,
and it wound up kind of being closing the gate
after the horses are out of the corral. Yeah, because
he did end up doing that later, but it was

(08:37):
a little too late.

Speaker 5 (08:38):
But you know, Munho's is one of those closers, right,
They rarely ever all season I had him in fantasy.
They never extended him, right, and when they did, he struggled.
So if you were going Munhos there, you were committing
to your best guy only getting two outs, but those
were the biggest two outs they needed.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
Well, not only that, he'd only thrown nineteen pitches in
the entire series. There's been a couple of days, so
he was well well rested, but decided to stick with
Bizardo and this is what happened. Now, these are two
calls of Toronto Blue Jays. First television, A voice's gonna

(09:14):
be very recognizable to you, Dan Shulman, who works for ESPN,
but this is on Sports Net in Canada, Sports in Toronto,
working with Buck Martinez. This was his call of George Springer,
the former astro, coming through big at the plate.

Speaker 6 (09:31):
Exactly the part of the lineup you want up in
a situation like this, and a swing in a fly
ball to left field back goes Herosarena.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
She's done.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
He's been doing in his whole life, coming up with
big hits in the post season.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
Nothing bigger than that one right there. Okay, So that's
Dan on Blue Jays Radio is Ben Shulman, Dan Sun.

Speaker 6 (10:10):
One ozer pitch, swing in a light ball left fielding
deep Rose Arado turns.

Speaker 7 (10:16):
Good a swinger dinger four three Blue Jays in the
bottom of the seventh.

Speaker 1 (10:35):
You could hear a little bit of his dad in
him on Ben Shulman's call there. But that was father
and son one on TV one on radio with the
call of the Blue Jays home run. And the blue
Jays are in the World Series. They went at four
to three, that was in the seventh and they held
on and they won four to three. So they'll play
the Dodgers and it'll begin the in Toronto. It'll begin
Friday night games one and two in Toronto before the

(10:57):
series shifts to Los Angeles. Now there's the other side
of this as well.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
Oh man, I mean it.

Speaker 5 (11:05):
It is brutal to be a Mariners fan this and
this decade, I should say, with all of their near misses.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
All right, yeah, and and that that long long drought
of not reaching the Alcs and they do, and that
it gets away from him late and uh afterwards. Uh,

(11:32):
there's a postgame interview going on in the clubhouse. Now
it's if I remember, correct, Brian Wu. Yeah, I was
thinking about who was interviewing Brian Wu for Fox? Wasn't
it or was it just reporters?

Speaker 2 (11:45):
I think it was on I think it was on Fox.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
Uh, Tom Berducci maybe okay, all right, Uh, here's you're
gonna hear. He's interviewing Brian wu who, by the way,
had gotten him into trouble with the two runners on
and winds up taking a loss as a result of this. No, actually,
because the home run what's his name takes a bizarre
who takes it? But there's an interview going on with him,

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and there's a question about the Mariner's legacy, and before
he can answer it, you just hear this primal scream
in the background.

Speaker 4 (12:20):
Listen to this, But what ultimately do you feel like
the legacy of this team is going to be having
cons further than any other team in franchise history?

Speaker 8 (12:32):
And legacy is no one's really satisfied or happy with this.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
I think, oh gosh, I think you one more time here.
This is just by the way, it's just a regular
reporter asking you. It wasn't It wasn't Tom Verducci. It
was a Mariner's I think beat reporter asking Brian Woo
this question.

Speaker 4 (12:50):
It's going to be having con is further than any
other team in franchise history.

Speaker 1 (13:00):
That's what the legacy is gonna be. Pain and sorrow unfortunately.

Speaker 2 (13:04):
That is every Mariners fan this morning.

Speaker 1 (13:08):
Yeah. Yeah, it's a shame great year for them, but
it does come up short. So it's Toronto, which had
the best record in the American League, playing the Dodgers.
So it'll start on Friday night in Toronto. All right,
coming up, We've got lots of football to get to
and we'll do that next when we continue here on

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thirteen under the Zone here on a chech and Tuesday,
we hear from the great Stevie rayvaugh Here in the
two o'clock hour, the immortal Stevie Ravon. In the three
o'clock hour, we hear from the iconic Will and Nelson.
In the four o'clock hour, we'll hear from the King
George Strait, who, by the way, is part of Inconceivable.

(13:51):
I'll just leave it at that, okay, and we'll go
to that. But let's go to some pro football sound
starting off with the Dallas Cowboy Cowboys, and again Brad
Shamill joined us in the four o'clock hour to talk Cowboys.
Cowboys with the win over Washington and in winning forty
one to twenty two, drew even five hundred to three

(14:13):
to three and one they're in second place in the
NFC East, and yet the whole key is to try
to get consistency going with this team to where it
can be more than just a win, than a loss,
than a tie, than a win and a loss then
a win. So Schottneimer was asked about the importance of

(14:33):
trying to get wins together and also is he worried
about the playoff standings or focus internally.

Speaker 9 (14:41):
Yeah, I mean, I think again, I use the word
consistency a lot. You know, I think it's early season football.
In some regards, it's new staff on defense, in some regards,
it's some new pieces on offense. Not an excuse some
of the injuries, some of the things that we've had
to deal with. But I do think yesterday was one

(15:02):
of our more complimentary days of team football, you know,
from the offense moving the football, scoring points. The big
two minute drive at the end of the first half
was huge. The defense doing a good job stopping the run,
controlling you know, Jayden and affecting him. The kicking game,
I think, you know, we made all of our kicks.

(15:22):
I think we pinned him down inside the twenty four times.
I think two punts and two kickoffs, and you know, overall,
I just I felt like, you know, hopefully we're finding
our stride. And like I said, no one cares where
we are today, that doesn't matter.

Speaker 1 (15:37):
What matters is where we're going to be in January.
True enough, you know, January of course means whether or
not you're in the playoffs. So is he worried about
that right now? I mean, here they are three, three
and one. Does he does he concern himself with that?
Or is all of the focus internal? We just talked.
I talked to the team about two things. Number one, fundamentals.

Speaker 9 (15:59):
I think you know I said it a very wise
old coach with bottle glasses used to talk about you
have to focus on fundamentals more in late October, November, December,
because most teams don't. And so I talked to those
guys about that. I think that will help us clean
up some of the penalties. Too many penalties yesterday, you know,

(16:20):
twelve called eleven accepted, and honestly I was complaining a
lot to the officials, but we actually most of them
were well deserved, and I do like the fact that
they were combative, but we need to cut that number
in a half and the way you do that is
really to focus on, you know, the fundamentals, and so
that's something we're to do. The other thing I talked

(16:41):
about was the perspective, you know, keep everything perspective. The
world didn't end when we lost to Carolina. You know,
you start a new week, and so we got the win.
We played good, and you know, now we're on on
to Denver.

Speaker 1 (16:55):
Okay, they actually took my word for it.

Speaker 9 (16:57):
They actually wanted to come watch you guys work. Every
by way waved to the cross.

Speaker 5 (17:01):
This was about some of his players coming to join
the media room walked into.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
Anyhow.

Speaker 1 (17:08):
Okay, all right, so they did. They moved through that,
all right. Next for shot he was dealing, Let's make
sure I pulled my particular file up that it comes
up because it went away.

Speaker 5 (17:23):
Well, what he was asked, Craig, while you find the
file was does this performance for the Cowboys over my
helpless Washington commanders in the reason all make them more
inclined in Brian Schottenheimer's mind to be buyers at the deadline.

Speaker 9 (17:37):
We'll always look at everything, you know that I mean,
I think Jerry and Steven and Will, I mean, they're
always open for business. And you know, this time of year,
you kind of let those guys focus on it because
we're so busy game planning and all that stuff. But
I am very pleased with the way our guys played yesterday. Man,
not pleased with the with the you know, consistency that

(17:59):
we performed with, but you know, I really feel like,
you know, it was a very good game. I said
last night, and I'll say it again. There were things
we need to clean up. I think Offensively, our pass
protection was not the standard. You know, Dak took too
many hits last night for different reasons and different breakdowns
and all of that. Defensively, we have to make people
kick field goals in.

Speaker 1 (18:20):
The red zone. You have to do that.

Speaker 9 (18:22):
I mean, this is the league is a high scoring
league right now.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
We have to do that.

Speaker 9 (18:27):
And it starts with us stopping the run in the
red zone and then getting off the field on third down,
and you know, really on special teams. The thing we
kind of talked about was, you know, we have to
let Turp get loose.

Speaker 1 (18:38):
And it's a lot easier than just saying, hey, Turp,
go do it.

Speaker 9 (18:41):
You know, you got to sustained blocks and do things
like that, and that goes back to my message to
them about fundamentals.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
Okay, all right, so there, so we'll hear some more
from Chottenheimer. Lit lay, I want to go to Jerry Jones,
the Cowboys president general manager. He's on his usual weekly
Tuesday appearance on one to fight for the fan and
with the defense coming through and holding Washington to twenty

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two points any other the number of injuries certainly did
not help the Commanders in the ball game, and then
especially losing Jayden Daniels during the ball game. Nevertheless, Cowboys
defense was able to shut them down eventually. So Jervis
asked how much trust did his defensive coordinator, Matt Eberflus

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gain and his players and vice versa.

Speaker 3 (19:32):
That's a strong word, but it's real. It's very real.
You certainly want to believe as a team with its
coach of the players that your scheme, what you're doing
will is sound and not have falls in their holes
in it. But so success is very important. But that'd

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be the quickest people the players to tell you that
a bigger part of why we've played some good defense
was because we did what we were supposed to do
in the system. We were in our spot that we
were supposed to be in. That is a natural progression
for football. Soul repetitive on how you play it well.

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And so you're seeing us perform the scheme. When we're
playing the scheme, you're seeing us perform that scheme better,
and we're in our right lanes. You do that, plus
that allows you to mix it up more. The way
Washington brought the offense on the field, it allowed us
to be a little more comfortable in manned than we

(20:40):
had been maybe against some of the other teams. Bottom line,
it's an evolving process of how this team, which also
gives you a little different look each week because of
injury and who's next up. All of that is a
work in progress. But boy was I pleased with the how.
Not just the ski world, but I was pleased with

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how well we played?

Speaker 1 (21:02):
All Right, since Romo subject good trust, there's a couple
of things. First of all, was he satisfied with Trevon
diggs explanation of that at home concussion?

Speaker 3 (21:10):
Yes, and I am, And there's no reason to dwell
on any more here, and so that's what it is.
And consequently, what we did see is we played pretty
well out there, and so I don't know the status

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of Diggs as we moved forward, but I feel better
about being able to play if we don't have him
out there all right.

Speaker 1 (21:38):
Next, given me his reab difficulty last year, has he
hears that trust question? Is he lost any trust? And Digs?

Speaker 3 (21:45):
Oh, you know, we're using that word trust a lot. Yeah,
and maybe it's maybe it's no, maybe it's an appropriate word.
But at the end of the day, it's a pretty
physical situation. You've got to physically able to perform, uh,
And that's important. Diggs has not been there to really

(22:09):
get the job done, apart from anything about the scheme
or mental but you've got to be Pizley or you
have a limitation. And so the combination of things, I'm
sure it'd be the first to tell you has impacted
him this year.

Speaker 1 (22:27):
Okay, there's some Jerry Jones for you there. We'll hear
some more from Jerry a little bit later on in
the program. Now, in addition to the fact that we
were telling you about, you know, the on air contest,
well the contest using the talk back feature. In addition

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to that, as always always, we avail ourselves to you
via the text line You're welcome to text us. All
you have to do is text the word texas followed
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you have to do is just text the word texas

(23:11):
followed by your question comment to eight one five three zero.
Standard messaging and data age may apply to the text line.
Somebody says, is there been discussion on the benefits of
or lack thereof having player availability during the week. To me,
this looks like a potential distraction and could create division
within the team. I'm not sure what you mean, because

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the player availability is on Monday, and that's they've had
that for the past several years. They bring in several players.
We're going to hear from March Manning in the show.
They bring them in on Monday. Several of the guys
are not available to come on Monday because they have
class time in Monday. But Monday is the day the
best works for the player availability for the largest amount

(23:56):
of players. So that's why Arch Manning was there, and
Hero Canoe was there, and Michael Taff was there, and
several others were theirs. So we're going to hear from
Anthony Hill they bring a lot of players in on it.
So I'm not exactly sure what your question is. But
it's not like no one's prohibited from coming on Monday

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when they have a chance to do it. So there's
I don't know that there's any need for any discussion
on it. That's just the way that it's set down.
On Monday is the is the interview day. It's been
like that for several years now. Somebody else said last year,
Texas finished the season ranked fourth in total offense in
the SEC. Currently Texas eleventh out of sixteen schools. It

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is indisputably statistically that the Texas offense has regressed in
their Sark's play calling. Florida gave Napier an ultimatum hire
a full time play caller or face the consequences of
producing results. Napier chose not to any fire deal. Conte
needs to do the same with Sark. Let me put
a question to you, what's Napier? What did Napier do
with Florida over the past few years. Yeah? Nothing. They

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didn't get to win SEC championship, they didn't win a
conference championship, they didn't get into a playoff. So how
would you even remotely compare Napier in his five years
with Stark now in his fifth year, when they've gone
to back to back final fours in the playoffs, when
they won the conference championship in the final four, How
can you even remotely compare? Are they down offensively? Absolutely?

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And Sark talked about it, but he's going to continue
to operate it the way he wants to operate it.
And by the way, it was going into Napier's offseason,
coming off of the struggles that they had last year,
when they had the conversation with him about hiring an
offensive coordinator, and they didn't give him an ultimatum, they

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just said, are you sure you don't want to do that,
and he said, yeah, I want to continue to do it.
It didn't work out, they let him go. Texas was
coming off a twenty five and five stretch and back
to back trips to the semifinals. So you think there's
any reason to ask him to hire an offensive coordinator
when they've had that kind of run leading into the year.

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And again, again, your numbers don't lie. You're exactly right.
It's indisputable statistically that the offense has regressed to this point. Absolutely,
they also have a complete changeover with the offensive line
and breaking in a new quarterback and injuries with the
running back. None of that seems to get mentioned, only

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the numbers. And I get it. Demiko Riot said, just
like Bill Parcells said, you are what your record says
you are. Well right now, the record says are five
and two, and they're two and one in the SEC.
So they've got a Hilda climb, There's no question about it.
But to compare it with Napier, I think is illogical
based on Napier haven't and having done next to nothing

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when he was there at Florida, when you compare what's
happened with Tzart, that's I think that's important kind of
to keep in mind in that all right second hour
of the program here on Sports Radio AM thirteen hundred
The Zone. Glad to have you with us here on
the Tuesday afternoon. Glad to have you with us. Craig
Way alongside the producer Jay Herman, will with you up

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until five o'clock. Coming up with a few minutes, will
visit with Greg Tepper, the editor in chief of Dave
Campbell's Texas Football Magazine, will talk about football the collegiate
and high school variety. Also, we want to remind you
to continue to take advantage of the opportunity, perhaps to
win a pair of tickets to see the Long Wornes

(27:38):
play the Vanderbilt Commodores a week from Saturday at dk
R Texas Memorial Stadium. We have a contest running and
it's through our talkback microphone or talkback feature on the
iHeartRadio app. The Longhorns are going to be playing in Starkville, Mississippi,
as we know this Saturday afternoon. They'll take on miss

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Zippy State and Bulldogs. Fans are known for bringing the
cowbells they have. They their cowboy bells have the clappers
on the inside. This one does not. But here anyway,
they're known for bringing cowbells. Cow Bell, after all, is

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a pretty popular thing.

Speaker 7 (28:22):
I to be honest, fellas, it was sounding great, but
I couldn't used a little more cow bell.

Speaker 1 (28:27):
Yeah, So here's what we want to do. We've opened
it up to you to tell us what is the
best song that employs a cow bell? Now, the exception
of the rule is from that drop from that skit
you just heard there from Saturday Night Live. That was
obviously the skit that was built around the Blue Oyster
cult hit Don't Fear the Reaper from nineteen seventy six,

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which has it in in that whole thing with Will Ferrell,
you know, beating the cow bell, that sort of deal,
so that that song is not eligible here. We want
you to tell us which song best employees use of
the cow bell. And we've had a lot of people,
you know, submit choices. We did say, uh, probably Mississippi

(29:12):
Queen is not where you want to go because it's
already been submitted. In case of a tie, the first
person to submit that is going to win the tickets. Uh,
So get creative, think about other songs that have use
of the cow bell. Same thing with Honky Tonk Woman.
You don't want to you don't want to go with
down that road either. A lot of people have submitted
that as well. So anyway, so there there it was.

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so there it is a couple of other questions on
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the text line, we were doing so. I wanted to

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go back to the I think the text made a
very good point in pointing out the offensive inefficiency right now,
and there's no doubt it's there. There are eleven out
of sixteen in the secs, he pointed out. But the
silly thing was I thought when he said Florida gave
Napier an ultimatum to hire a full time play caller
face the consequences of not producing results. Napier chose not to.

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When he was fired. Del Conte he needs to do
the same with Sark. He can't even remotely compare the two.
Napier went twenty two and twenty three in four and
a half seasons. Sark is now for his career ninety
and forty nine overall. But at the University of Texas,

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sarks record as head coach of the Longhorns is forty
two and nineteen, with back to back trips to conference
championship games, a Big Twelve conference championship, and back to
back trips to the College Football Playoff. No other team
in college football had done it back to back. Here
has gotten into the playoff back to back here, So
I don't even think you can remotely compare the two now.

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The point being made about the offense, it's a good point,
and Sark has even addressed that and said he said,
I got to be better at it. There's a lot
of other things and that's what they're working on right now.
So the good point in the text up to the
point about Napier, you can't even remotely compare those two
situations there. Somebody else has any thoughts around some of
the Texas non head coaching staff being lured away from

(32:28):
one of the head coaching jobs. Have not heard any
of that, but certainly, you know there's been Pete Kikkowski's
name has come up in the past before, Jeff Banks's
name has come up in the past before. I'm sure
their names. As your program has success, there's going to
be more people who will have some thoughts on that.

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And then our man CB says Craig al Cole. Was
it in Lincoln nineteen years ago today? I remember it
snowed during the game of Vince Young. Was there on
the Texas sideline. That's that two thousand and six game,
and it was a very strange game. There was snow,
and we were fortunate we were in our radio boot.
But they had I remember some friends of mine were

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working the national radio broadcast and they had a deal
where you lifted a garage door and you were kind
of out in the elements snowing, and it was snowing,
and it snowed during the game, and then it stopped,
and then the sun came out late in the game.
But it was a game, you know. Mac Brown went
nine and one against Nebraska. The one loss he had

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to the Corner Huskers was in their second meeting in
ninety nine mac second season, when Nebraska was number three
in the country. Texas beat him at home and then
lost to him in the Big Twelve championship game in
the Alamo dum See. The only time in Nebraska team
beat a mac Brown coach Texas team and the one
other time they probably should have won was either this
one or twenty ten, and Texas won both of those games.

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But in six they were they were driving for a
chance to put the game away and fumbled and Aaron
Ross recovered the fumble and Ryan Bailey, who had just
been added to the roster a walk on at Anderson
High School, kicks the game winning field goal and the
long Orange won that game. It was a cold DAYCB,

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but then the sun came out to it was really
weird that day, all right. Wanted to hear a little
bit from Debinko Ryans, the coach of the Houston Texans
last night. The Texans fell in their game in Seattle,
lost to the Seahawks last night, and Ryans was asked

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for an overall assessment of the game for US tonight.
It was just overall it was just sloppy play.

Speaker 10 (34:43):
There were some positive things that we did, but it
was just overshadowed by the negative things. Offensively is not
good enough. It didn't move the ball good enough. We
got to execute better. The main goal in this game
was to control of the front.

Speaker 11 (34:57):
We did not do that.

Speaker 10 (34:58):
Their front control of us, and it wasn't good enough
for us. So we have to find a way to
get better there. We gotta score points, right, so we
got to find a way to get an end zone,
have multiple opportunities. It just didn't capitalize on those.

Speaker 1 (35:11):
Yeah, And that brings you to the question about was
their offensive regression after they made progress the last couple
of ball games.

Speaker 10 (35:18):
Today, wasn't it wasn't a good day for our entire team.
It's not just one side. All three phases did not
do a great job today. We didn't play winning football,
so we can't expect to come out with the win
when you don't do the things that winning teams do.

Speaker 1 (35:32):
And he was asked, where does he stand on where
this team is right now? We are what our.

Speaker 10 (35:37):
Record says we are. So you know, we got another opportunity.
It doesn't matter. We got another opportunity coming next week,
short week, but doesn't matter. We gotta flush this, We
gotta move on, get ready for the next one.

Speaker 1 (35:48):
All right, there it is from the Beacon ran Up next,
we visited with Greg Tepper, editor in chief of Dave
Campbell's Texas Football Magazine. I'm thirteen under the zone, Tennessee.

Speaker 12 (35:59):
I'm going to bring.

Speaker 1 (36:01):
Listen. You can certainly have a great appreciation for the
Paul Simon version of Gray Simon, but I think Willie
Nelson could sing just about anything, anything at all, and
make it sound good. Of course, the iconic native textan
from Abbot, Texas. Our iconic native textan who joins us

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every Tuesday is Greg Tepper, editor in chief Dave Campbell's
Texas Football Magazine. Are you in agreement with me? Willie
could sing just about anything.

Speaker 13 (36:30):
Yeah, absolutely could. And actually I drove by Willie's old
stomping grounds. I've come to Temple from meeting today, and
so we were driving by, Abbot pointed out and actually,
let me tell you, and this is a story that
a sicico like Craig Way will appreciate. Yes, we're driving
down at a new meeting in Temple, but we you know,
GPS said I was going to arrive about forty minutes early,

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and I'm like, well, how could I best use these
forty minutes?

Speaker 8 (36:55):
I made a little.

Speaker 13 (36:55):
Triple side trip off off the road and headed over
to Academy Texas to check out, to check out the
beautiful stadium they've got over there for the Bumbleblebees. They
had a big game this week against Troy, and so
I got to tour their facilities a little bit because
there's a gate open.

Speaker 12 (37:14):
There wasn't a guided tour. I just got to.

Speaker 13 (37:15):
Walk in beautiful facility out there. They're an academy, the
Little River Academy bubble Bees. And then yeah, so any opportunity,
I think, as you well know, any opportunity I have.
If I've got ten spare minutes and then the high
school football teaum I haven't seen nearby, you can you
can bet that I will find a way to see
if there's a gate open there that I can wander
on that onto that turf.

Speaker 1 (37:36):
Well, do you owe it to yourself? I mean, that's
that's that's the thing. You owe it to yourself to
go over and check that out to see. I totally
agree with you. One should, one should take advantage of
that opportunity. It makes perfect sense.

Speaker 13 (37:50):
It was a couple of years ago now probably ten
years ago, but my wife and I did like a
Texas road trip. That was our big summer vacation is
before we had kids, and we drove out to Big Bend,
which great, great trip. If you ever have the means
so that the way to get to drive out there,
you should absolutely do it.

Speaker 12 (38:05):
But my wife had to set a rule.

Speaker 13 (38:07):
Basically, she said, Okay, we can stop at the high
school football stadium that you see off the side of
the road. If it's on the right side of the road,
We're not crossing over the road. We're not gonna go
turn leapt.

Speaker 8 (38:17):
And then I'll make another one choosing them.

Speaker 13 (38:19):
I still got to see about thirty thirty or thirty
five stadiums on the way out there. But you probably
limited the damage by by setting that rule early. I
think it was by the time we got out to
uh well, it might have been a Ranger. By the
time we got into a Rangers. She's like, all right, listen,
we're not we can't.

Speaker 11 (38:36):
We got too far to.

Speaker 13 (38:37):
Go out there to its alpine for you for you
to be stupped every little town on the way out
there to West Texas. So so a woman have to
have a code, I suppose.

Speaker 1 (38:48):
I would imagine I could just hear Jen in charge
of that whole deal. Yeah, that that kind of makes sense.
I'm gonna it's interesting you bring up six men. I'm
going to come back to them when we get back
to the high school secon. But let me start off
with college football. And I want to start off with
your dct X, the Dave Campbell's Texas Football Power Pole.

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And I want to start at the bottom. We usually
started at the top. I want to start at the
bottom because we know Texas A and M is number
one on that in Texas Tech makes perfect sense to
leave him at number two as a heartbreaking loss terrors understad.
We'll get to that at the moment. The reason why
I want to start the bottom U TEP and Sam
Houston UTEP wins last Wednesday night. So they're two and

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five and Sam is O W and seven and as
the slug line you guys put there, the Bearcats have
started oh to seven for the second time in three
seasons as an FBS program. I want to ask about
you Tap. We've talked about Scotty Walden and the energy
and excitement he infuses into a program. I know it's
going to be tough for them to try to get
Bowl eligible, but do you see the program making strides there?

Speaker 13 (39:52):
Yeah? I think so. And I think it was always
going to be a bit of a build there for
Scottie Walden. It was going to take a couple of years,
and I think you're our seeing that kind of progress.
I think one of the things you can look at
is they're working in a lot of young guys. They're
working in a lot of guys that they think are
going to be the future of this minors program. I
think that's really encouraging that, like, you know, look, this
is not going to be a national championship year for UTEP.

(40:14):
I'm going to rule that out for them, but I
do think that you can start to see what the
future is going to look like. And I think I'm
making that move to Skylar Locklear at the quarterbacks spot.
I think was critical for them to see a little
bit more of a kind of a future state of
what this thing can do. Because we know that, you know,
Scotty Waalder can go out there and and to borrow
a phrase, he can sell a ketchup popsicle to a

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woman in white gloves. I mean, he's he's going to
do a good job.

Speaker 12 (40:39):
Recruiting out there and as.

Speaker 13 (40:41):
Good as anybody can do to get UTEPS up and
up and running on the recruiting trail right now. I
would just say that you can at the very least say, okay,
well they're young, you know the work. The teams you
don't want to see are senior laden teams that are
not performing right. That would be a disappointment there. They've
got a lot of young players out there that they're

(41:01):
that they're relying on. I think it's going to be
really beneficial for them down the road. It may not
happen this year. But I think that what you're gonna
see is you're gonna see a lot of encouraging signs
for you and Tevin. I think last week against you know,
I mean, it's kind of that weird Wednesday night affair
against Sam Houston. That's an encouraging step of just like, Okay,
we're making progress. We're using some young pieces, and we're

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going up there and showing that we can we can
win games that we're supposed to win.

Speaker 12 (41:25):
And now a certain game they were supposed to win.

Speaker 3 (41:27):
Well.

Speaker 1 (41:28):
Another program that's making progress with the first year head
coach is the one you have just ahead of them.
Rice is three and four. Now they're coming off an
open date, and uh, I don't know that they can
get the six wins. Looking at their closing schedule. They
have Yukon at home, may be winnable, even though they
just beat Boston College. They'll have an angry Memphis at
a home on Halloween. They have u A be the
team that beat Memphis at home. Of that, they have

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North Texas at home, and then and then they they're
at South Florida. But it is weird that they've got
four consecutive home games coming up.

Speaker 12 (41:59):
Yeah, it is odd.

Speaker 13 (42:00):
You know, I would love to know how to have Actually,
you know what's funny and this is not to bring
it back to to my own personal piccadillos, but Missouri
played six consecutive home games to third the year. Like
I just noticed that.

Speaker 1 (42:13):
Like, ye, anyway, that's I heard it there, Okay, I
mean wil Meanwhile, yours Texas without a home game in
the entire month of October.

Speaker 13 (42:21):
Yeah, they're gonna Yeah, they're gonna be road warriors. They
might as well pack up their stuff and rent out
their houses.

Speaker 12 (42:26):
Uh. This is but I think we can.

Speaker 13 (42:28):
Take a look at Rice again. What you're looking at
is like, is proof that this Scott abel thing is
going to work. Right as the guy who came over,
you know, from the Division two or from from the
SS ranks with with Davidson, you know, take it and
he's coming in with a unique style, you know, that
kind of pistol option offense that that that they that

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they operate out of. They're going to run the dang ball.
They want to do something very different.

Speaker 12 (42:53):
Is the thing going to work?

Speaker 13 (42:54):
And I would say, even right now, if you were
to stop right now at three and four and they
were to not play in the game the rest of
the season. You can be like, all right, mission accomplished.
We feel like this can work because I think what
you can do. You can go and take the tape
that you got so far this season, and you can
put it in front of high school football players across
the state of Texas and put high school football players
across the nation and be like, hey, let me be

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a part of this, and this is gonna be something
different and unique, and yeah, you're gonna need to be
smart to get into the school, but I think that
this is the kind of thing that can work. And furthermore,
you know, when they hired Scott abel, I think part
of the reason that they did it was it that, Okay,
here's the guy who kind of runs a similar situation
to like like an academy.

Speaker 3 (43:36):
Right.

Speaker 13 (43:36):
You know the reason that Army uh It runs the option,
the triple options is not because Jeff Munkin is some
triple option team. He'll go out there, he'll he'll run
whatever offense works, but he understands these are the players
I've got here is the best way that we can
gather eskimatic advantage. Whenever we are playing some bolt Army

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ain't getting a five star. Well, Rights probably ain't getting
a five star either, and this is an opportunity I
think for them to say, hey, how can we do
the most with what we've got. I think that right
now for Scott Abel, things are trending in the right direction,
and that right now so far, getting those three wins
under their belt and looking competitive in a couple of
their losses, I think that is proof that things are

(44:18):
moving in the right direction.

Speaker 11 (44:19):
For the LS.

Speaker 1 (44:20):
Okay, so, and we're talking college football at the moment
with Greg Keepper, editor in chief Tape Campbell's Texas Football Magazine.
Well jump the high school in a moment. But again,
this is going to depend on perspective and what prism
you're viewing this from. Here's Rice at three and four.
So it looks optimistic. Then you got UTSA in Texas State,

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each of whom are three and four, each of whom
for whom you know, good things were forecasts, each of
whom are struggling right now and may not wind up
being Bowl eligible as a result of this.

Speaker 13 (44:56):
Yeah, and I think it's disappointing for different reasons.

Speaker 12 (44:59):
You for for.

Speaker 13 (45:00):
Texas State, you know, three straight losses, a double overtime
loss to Marshall, and they've been so close, right, I
mean that those those three losses they have, I think
are combined eleven points or something, and and so you
think about it, they're eleven points away from from essentially
being six and one. It is a very different conversation
that we're.

Speaker 12 (45:20):
Having about them that they just haven't been able to
close and they.

Speaker 13 (45:22):
They they really they really stubbed their own toe at
the key moments, you know, costly turnovers the wrong at
the wrong time. But I think that's one thing that
I think is really uh, you know, for for Texas State,
this is going to be in a lot of ways
the one that got away because things were really training
in the right direction and then they weren't able to
really close it down the stretch for you to have

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or UCSA rather, I mean, it's it's it's strange, you know,
in a lot of ways, the things that had made
Jeff Trailer a hot name, uh in coaching circles and
it made UTSA a premier uh you know, uh G
five program have kind of fallen. Part a lot of
it is just like the second half they they've been

(46:04):
unable to close games. They've been pouring road games. You know,
this is a something that I think we take a
look at what they were able to do over the
you know, from twenty one to twenty three, they were
thirty two and nine. They were arguably the best Chief
five program in America. They were definitely the best Chief
five program in the state of Texas. But then you

(46:24):
kind of take a look at what's happened the last
couple of years. It's been kind of you know, the
second half, and it's been road games that have really
been their bugaboo, things that weren't necessarily problems in the
earlier part of the Jeff Trailer era. It's interesting to
see maybe I don't know, the portal has certainly hurt
UTSA in some ways.

Speaker 12 (46:43):
I think that's part of it.

Speaker 13 (46:44):
But we will see what happens. I do know that
Jeff Trailer will have an opportunity to reload his his
hit team. And if we know one thing, you know,
Jeff Trailer's actually never had a losing season in his
coaching career, so I would imagine that he will find
a way to get.

Speaker 1 (46:59):
The six Yeah, and and uh and certainly one thing
that's been tough for him is the players that have
left through the portal that have gone to other schools.
He's well helped me out. Uh running back from TCU
had the big weekend. Uh camp Cook, No, No, he's transferred.
Uh it's oh gosh, you could possibly Craig. Uh yeah. Uh.

Speaker 13 (47:30):
Everyone's screaming at their radio at these supposed football experts. Yeah,
you can't remember the U T s. You know what's funny,
if you had said Stan Augustine running back, I would
have been able to challenge you.

Speaker 1 (47:46):
Yeah, exactly. Then we would have known for sure, right,
yeah exactly. Uh. And he's a he that's a poster
example of what's happened to U T s. A some
of the best players have left for you know, larger programs.
Power power for programs.

Speaker 13 (48:00):
Yeah, I mean that's that's kind of the.

Speaker 12 (48:03):
Blessing and the cursive of the cheap.

Speaker 13 (48:06):
Five program is that, Yeah, you're going to be able
to now because because of transfer portal, you're going to
have better players available to you because there's going to
be fewer roster spots for these big name programs. But
here's the problem. If they show out, they're going to
go to those big name programs. Sure, So that's one
of the things. You know, UCSA has in some respective been.

Speaker 12 (48:22):
A victim of their own of their their own success.

Speaker 1 (48:25):
Yeah, no doubt about it. And then here's one other
note that I thought was interesting. Of course, North Texas,
I think they they they missed out on their chance
maybe to possibly crash the playoff party with the home
loss to South Florida. They did blast UTSA and then
I noticed, I just saw the thing. They're leading the
nation in offense. They're the number one offensive team in

(48:46):
the nation right now.

Speaker 13 (48:47):
They're unstoppable offensively, and even go back to their loss,
right even that loss that they had at home, they
put up they put up thirty six points. The problem
is they just can't stop anybody, and so that's to
be the game they have to play. Offense has been
absolutely spectacular. A they their defense has not to just

(49:08):
make a couple of stuffs and be the offense can't
give the the opposition U extra possessions, which is what
ended up happening in that loss a couple of weeks ago.

Speaker 1 (49:17):
Exactly by the way, I called that a palindromic loss,
since they lost sixty three thirty six. Yes, in that case,
visiting Greg tap all right, let's shift to high school
football and what is on your radar for this week?
What's what's got your attention the most?

Speaker 13 (49:35):
So the headline I think for me this first of all,
I think this is the best week of games we've
had probably since Week one. This slate games across the
state is boxed offense, and so what I think is
great is that you we don't necessarily know how these
district matchups are going to play out, but we know
like the shape of them, you know, we we know

(49:56):
who's in contention. And so for example, you know this
week you've got co Miss playing Hitchcock in a massive game.
We know that that District twelve three A Division one
is probably going to come down to those to that
kind of three way dance between Columbus, Hitchcock and Yoakam.

Speaker 12 (50:09):
What that is going to look for a lot.

Speaker 13 (50:11):
I think the same thing goes with the Battle of
the Lakes this weekend, District twenty six to six A
will come into sharper focus. Last week, Lake Travis, you know,
played the strangest game of the week, I think, with
a fourteenth seven win over Dripping Springs in the game
that was scoreless at halftime, you know, but they they
they survived to get a win.

Speaker 14 (50:31):
Uh.

Speaker 13 (50:31):
With west Lake, We're starting to get the shape of those.
The other the headline for me, I mean, it's rivalry week,
Lake Travis, Westlake. You've got a Campo Bay City. You've
got make County madness between fourten, Agent Groves and Neederland.
You've got those those big time gaining. The other thing
you've got is you have six matchups of unbeaten teams
across the state of Texas, from six A all the way

(50:52):
down to sixth Man, which makes this a real kind
of judgment week for a lot of teams across the state.
We're going to find out what the district races look like,
and also teams that can grab the matchup of unbeatens
are going to be have an extra springboard heading into
the final two week sprint of the regular season.

Speaker 1 (51:09):
Yeah, you're right, and it sounds almost absurd to say this,
So I'm going to qualify. But for some folks, the
Battle of the Lakes may take a back seat to
a couple of other matchups in the Greater Austin area.
One Anderson and Hayes on Thursday night, you've got Anderson
in the top ten this week at number nine, and

(51:32):
they close the season with the team you currently have
number ten wwie. So you got Anderson and Hayes, with
Anderson trying to wrap up a playoff spot and get
ready to go. And then the other one is a
winning your in game in all probability for east Side
Early College the former east Side Memorial and Taylor because

(51:52):
if east Side wins, it'll be their first time to
make the playoffs. Ever as east Side, if they lose
it probably not getting in. They've got to buy next week.
And then let's be real, they're playing LBJ the final week.
So so those two games are our massive games in
addition to, by the way, like Travis and Westlake.

Speaker 13 (52:11):
Yeah, and that's that's what's great about this week is
that is that you have these big showcase matchups Lake
Travis and Westlake, and that I don't need to sell
you on Lake Travis and Westlake.

Speaker 12 (52:19):
It's going to be a fantastic game. And and you've people.

Speaker 13 (52:22):
Who are listening to my voice understanding what Lake Travis
and Westlake means.

Speaker 12 (52:25):
You're exactly right.

Speaker 13 (52:26):
You've also got this great call it an undercard of
games where you've got matchups that ultimately are going to
decide the team state where it's essentially winning in like
the playoffs kind of start for a lot of teams.
This week, I'll throw another.

Speaker 12 (52:38):
One in the Atin area that I'm really excited about.

Speaker 13 (52:40):
Band the Grip at Huddo. You want to talk about
an opportunity for Eli Ryan Hard's Hippos to make a
state wide statement. They had some early struggles, they have
really hit the gas recently. I mean, who who knew
that Eli yan Hard coach offense is going to take off?
But this is a real test to make a state
a state wide kind of impact. If they can take down.

Speaker 12 (53:02):
The defending six A Division two stage champs.

Speaker 13 (53:05):
In vander that is a whale of a ball game
with also kind of seeding and playoff implications woven into
it all.

Speaker 1 (53:12):
Right, here we go. The meanest thing we do to
one another each week. I'll give you three games. You
can pick one game, one game only at where you
would be transported to be present. So is it one
of the following a the aforementioned Battle of the Lakes
like Travis and Westlake. Like Travis number four in the state,
west Lake number nine, Cavaliers are seven and oh Shapes
are six and one. Is it in three A Division one?

(53:35):
This is one of those off the grid undercard games
that I know has got your attention. How about an
unbeaten Crystal City at seven to zero against a six
and one Hondo and then the final one? Oh what
a what a lipsmacker? This one is in two A
Division two. Undefeated Bremont undefeated Chiltern Boat teams are seven

(53:57):
and oh.

Speaker 13 (53:58):
Okay, all their respective about the like again, that's that's
that's brand name stuff. You can if you want to
go and you.

Speaker 12 (54:06):
Want to eat, you know, eat eat at the brand
name restaurant. You absolutely can't.

Speaker 13 (54:09):
Nobody's gonna gonna give you prop. Crystal City and Hondo
is a lot of fun too. It's there's a lot
of like off to being had, like rape, like Raymondvilling Rio.
Hondo is a matchup of Munde. It's gonna be great,
San Augustine and Love Lady of the Magic Bummings, Robert
Lee and Water Valley for what I think could be
a spot in a state championship, be May.

Speaker 12 (54:27):
The favorite to represent the West.

Speaker 13 (54:29):
But the answer here is children Brimont and I'll tell
you why, because I want to know who's gonna score.
These are two of the very best defenses in two
A Division two. Chilton has given up twenty two points
in seven games. They are ridiculous defensively. Meanwhile, Bremont has
pixed three consecutive shutouts, including a shutout win over Goldsweight

(54:50):
last week. H Who can I mean this sincerely like
they're gonna be games that I think are gonna be real.
Point C that they have the six seeds, They're gonna
be a lot of fun. I think seventeen points wins
this game between Brimont and Chilton, it is going to
be a slobbery knocker and points are going to.

Speaker 12 (55:06):
Be a premium.

Speaker 13 (55:07):
And also, I think if you want to talk about
an early favorite in Region three of two eight Division two,
and I could be on the line in this one.
I love this Children Bremon matchup. I think it's really
really tasty.

Speaker 1 (55:19):
I leave you with this as we come full circle.
We were talking about Abbot. Some might ask, what in
the world's wrong with Abbot. They're three and four right now,
computer has only ranked twenty eighth, and one of their
district mates, the old rival Aquila, Cougars are number one
in the computer right now. Now they're going to blast
Penelope on Friday, but they're eight and oh but that

(55:41):
Week ten match up, that final week of the regular
season Aquila Abagan. Could this be the year where we
say Aquila really has a shot because we've had some
years where they were unbeaten going in there and then
Abbot make quick work of them.

Speaker 13 (55:54):
Yeah, I think right now this is a really young
Abbot team and this is like in different kind of
cycles right now that Aquilla is this is their year,
this is the year they wanted to be.

Speaker 12 (56:05):
An Abbot is a time line down.

Speaker 13 (56:06):
So that said, that is one of those and I
know it's a cliche, but oh look at Texas go
you same big right, it's to throw the record books
out type king. This is that when those two teams
get together, it is a really weird things happen. I'm
just saying weird things happen when Habit and Aquilla get ready.
And by the way, that leads into what next week is,
which is Week ten, is like, clear your calendars, guy.

Speaker 12 (56:30):
Week ten is one of.

Speaker 13 (56:31):
The best plate attaching high school football in the regular
season we have ever seen. And Avid and Aquilla is
going to be one of those box office maunch.

Speaker 1 (56:38):
Ups, no doubt about it. He's Greg Tepper. He's the
editor in chief Dave Campbell's Texas Football Magazine. Follow him
on x slash Twitter at Tepper. Hey, appreciate the time,
have a great weekend.

Speaker 12 (56:50):
I certainly will talk to you guys.

Speaker 1 (56:51):
You bet all right, that's Greg Tepper. All right, coming up,
we'll hear from Anthony Hill of the Longboorns when we
continue on thirteen under the zone.

Speaker 14 (57:00):
Jesus Baby, that's me on.

Speaker 1 (57:03):
Additional cow bell bro scream anyway you can hear the cowbell.

Speaker 3 (57:15):
I'm back.

Speaker 1 (57:15):
This is nineteen sixty five when they did this, so
there was cow bell going on. There was cow bell
on an even earlier Beatles song that I'll let you
know about later.

Speaker 2 (57:26):
But anyway, I think we should just keep this cow
bell in the studio, right.

Speaker 1 (57:30):
It's all in conjunction with our cow bell contest. Again.
Go to the iHeartRadio app and if you haven't already
downloaded it downloaded. It's free, it's easy. Then you search
AM thirteen under the Zone and there's a little red
button with a white microphone. You tap that. That's our
talkback microphone to enter our cow bell contest. And the

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whole genesis of it is the fact that Texas is
playing at Mississippi State this Saturday and the Bulldogs fans
will all be armed with cow bells because that's what
they do. They they play cow bells. They ring cow
bells throughout the course of the game.

Speaker 2 (58:10):
So music is a stretch.

Speaker 1 (58:12):
Yeah, so yeah, they just you know, they rattle the
cow bells throughout the course of the game. So it
got me to thinking, what is the best use of
cow bell in a song? Now, first and foremost, you
have to remove Don't Fear the Reaper by Blue Oyster Cult.
They have to be removed from the equation because of
the SNL skit. Everybody knows the whole more cow bell thing,
the more cow bell with the playing of Bruce Dickison,

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so to speak, by the one and only Christopher Walking.

Speaker 11 (58:40):
I'm telling you, fellas, you're gonna want that cow bell.

Speaker 1 (58:43):
Yeah, that skit, So you know that gets pulled out
of the equation other than that song. And I don't
even know that that's the best use of cow bell
in the song. In fact, I don't believe it is.
But because it's so by. We had to pull that
out of the equation. What is the best song that
uses a cow bell? And we said the person when

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we select the song, the first person who submitted it,
because we are having folks several folks submit the same song,
like Mississippi Queen by Mountain and it's a good one
and it might win or it might not win. But
if you submit it now, you have no chance to
win because somebody has already submitted it. Same thing with

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Honky talk Woman by the Rolling Stones, same deal Good
Times Bad Times by led Zeppelin. So if you're going
to submit one, try to get out there creative in
The winning entry, which will be announced on Monday, will
receive a pair of tickets to the game, the Texas
Vanderbilt game a week from Saturday. So that's our cow

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bell contest for this week. All right, let's hear from
Anthony Hill speaking of the Longhorns, a couple of things.
First of all, obviously they had the big goal line stop.
They had an earlier fourth down stop of the game.
What makes them so tough on those short yardage and
goal line situations.

Speaker 15 (01:00:08):
We worked those plays like those exact players in practice,
So like everybody knew exactly what to do, and I
feel like everybody did a good job of winning there
one on one matchup and executing.

Speaker 1 (01:00:17):
Next he was asked about what is the defense's mindset
on those fourth downs?

Speaker 15 (01:00:22):
We kind of say, just give us one more chance
to go play. JG made a nice tackle on that
on that longer play that leaked out, so we was like, okay,
we're on the goal line. Let's try to buckle down
and see if we can go go get a stop
to win us the game. So when we're seen they
went for it on fourth down, was okay, this is
a nice opportunity for us to go go close the
game and go finish the game.

Speaker 1 (01:00:39):
And we ended up executing man And he was also
as what differentiates this defense from past long horn defenses.

Speaker 15 (01:00:46):
I feel like we have a nice rotation of guys
like we got guys like Trey Moore, Ty Anthony. We
have a really good depth at every position, so you
can really play fast and we need to need a breath.

Speaker 14 (01:00:55):
We got guys that's just as good as you.

Speaker 1 (01:00:57):
They can go and go play and go execute. Yeah,
the defense played was on the field eighty three plays
last Saturday. Now it might be a little bit misleading
because of the way Texas substitutes constantly liberally, and maybe
that helps. And in fact, he'll said, you know, the
depth has to be the key when you're on the
field for so long in a game like that.

Speaker 15 (01:01:18):
I mean, I feel like a lot of guys made
a lot of big plays in that game. So it
kind of showed our deal. We had brass fins who
got Lance, we got Trey Moore again, some sacks, we
got Ty Anthony making plays. So I feel like having
a lot of debt really plays that will throughout the season.

Speaker 1 (01:01:30):
So now all the Mississippi State blake shaping, the former
Baylor Bear quarterback now the quarterback of the Bulldogs. What
stands out about him?

Speaker 15 (01:01:37):
BOX say, he extends the players really well. I mean
he looks really mobile and he can really throw the
d ball. They got some some fast guys, I received it,
Brendon Thompson, Anthony Evans. So we're gonna be ready for
that for him and extend plays and get the ball
deep down the field.

Speaker 1 (01:01:49):
Yeah, Brandon Thompson, another former long one and former Oklahoma Sooner.
And then how about that tempo that the Bulldogs run.

Speaker 15 (01:01:55):
I kind of see something that some of the running
shoo type of type of game plan.

Speaker 1 (01:01:58):
So we're got to be ready for them.

Speaker 15 (01:02:00):
We'll have to practice hard Forday and just get ready
to go go play and play against that.

Speaker 1 (01:02:03):
All right, We're gonna hear from Arch Banding coming up
next hour in addition to our conversation with Brad Sham
played by play voice of the Dallas Cowboys. We'll be
back to wrap up hour number two. I'm thirteen under
the Zone, third and final hour of the program here
on Sports Radio AM thirteen Under the Zone. Glad to

(01:02:24):
be with you here on this Tuesday afternoon, Greg Ay
alongside the producer Jay Herman. Glad to have you with us,
and we'll go up until five o'clock. A couple of
reminders of some things to come this Thursday. You know,
we bring you long worn weekly with coach Sark. Each

(01:02:45):
Thursday we do at seven o'clock. Normally this week it'll
be at six o'clock. The reason why it's at six
is because at seven o'clock on Thursday, we will broadcast
the exhibition game for Texas women's basketball. The Longhorns will
be hosting Love a Christian and we'll broadcast that game
for you here on thirteen hundred zone. In fact, just
about all of the Longhorn women's games can be heard

(01:03:07):
here on thirteen hunderd the Zone this year, I know
the last year we've had them one oh three point one,
and there may be a conflict or two, but normally
you'll hear them on thirteen hunderd the Zone throughout the
course of this year. And that'll be the case this
Thursday nine, and we'll go right at seven o'clock, right
before tip so we can get all of a Longhorn
weekly with coach sark on. So we'll do that. So
that's just a programming note for Thursday. Of course, on

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Wednesdays is when we go over to record the program,
which we do tomorrow evening over on campus, and then
on Thursdays when it airs all right. Speaking of being
on campus, yesterday, Arch Manning was on campus.

Speaker 2 (01:03:43):
You know, Arch.

Speaker 1 (01:03:45):
Understands we talked about this acknowledge, but I think it's
okay to repeat it. He understands the stuff that comes
with being the quarterback at this school. He understands the
stuff that comes with him carrying the name he carries.
He gets all that. But but to his credit, he's

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he's largely interested only in trying to be a better
quarterback and get better. There's for example, I asked him,
I actually actually asked him in the news conference if
he'd heard the podcast that his dad does. His dad
does a pretty entertaining podcast Cooper Manning along with Kenny
Mayne formerly a ESPN the anchor who's pretty funny and glib,

(01:04:30):
and Brian Baumgartner from the office Kevin Kevin from the office.
The three of those guys do one. And I asked
him if he'd heard it, and he said no. And
then when I went up to him after, I said, hey,
the reason why I asked you that was because this
is a I said, do you even know who's He
didn't even know, So I told him. He's like, you

(01:04:51):
know what, I think I need to give it a listen. So,
but the point of it is he's so dialed into
what he's supposed to do, walking out the noise and
trying to be a better quarterback. So one of the
things and coming off a subpar performance for the offense
and for him included what does he see when he
looks at the digital video of it?

Speaker 16 (01:05:10):
Obviously we want to play a better on offense all around,
myself be the first to say that, but really proud
of the way we played as a team. Special teams
Jack and Mason and Ryan were incredible.

Speaker 14 (01:05:23):
And then our defense.

Speaker 16 (01:05:25):
If you look at it on paper, we probably should
loss and just about every way. But way to put
out the win on the road in the SEC and
not going to take for granted. Very fortunate.

Speaker 1 (01:05:34):
Yeah, all right. So with the offensive line having the
struggles they had the other night, does he say specific
things to them.

Speaker 14 (01:05:41):
Yeah, Kentucky's their well coached defense. They got good players.

Speaker 16 (01:05:45):
Really, just to keep going one play at a time,
try to get a little rhythm and just keep fighting.

Speaker 14 (01:05:50):
I'm ten toes down with those guys. I'm through it all,
all right.

Speaker 1 (01:05:54):
There were a lot of there's been a lot of
questions about Sark and calling plays and all that other
kind of stuff, and he was asked for what's his
thought in relationship with the head coach as a play caller.

Speaker 14 (01:06:04):
Yeah, of most faith in him.

Speaker 16 (01:06:06):
I mean that's the reason I came here, just because
how smart he is, calm plays and the most confidence
in him.

Speaker 14 (01:06:13):
And we're just gonna keep going from here.

Speaker 1 (01:06:14):
And the arts is a lot of it's just getting
the timing down, getting in sync with the receivers.

Speaker 14 (01:06:20):
Obviously you want to get in sync.

Speaker 16 (01:06:21):
And it's been, uh, it's been tough because you know,
we that some of those guys are out during the
offseason and coming in late. So got to get the
chemistry down and I think just got to build in
it each day and we're going to continue to improve.

Speaker 1 (01:06:35):
Yeah, and it does mean there they're gonna be some
tough stretches like what they've gone through, and he's trying
to work to break out of it.

Speaker 16 (01:06:41):
Just get timing down and and a lot of the
times you got to learn on the fly and learning games,
get those bank repts to get better.

Speaker 1 (01:06:49):
He was also asked about the blitz pick up that
Trey Wisener was able to do, and it just kind
of threw his body out there.

Speaker 16 (01:06:56):
To do that with the game on the lot, I
got the most respect for Trey. He's a great teammate
and a great player. I'm just glad to have him
and he made a hell of play at that time
in the game.

Speaker 1 (01:07:06):
All right, So he's asked are there things that he
has been able to directly pull from the Florida in
Kentucky games.

Speaker 16 (01:07:13):
What I've learned, I learned that haven't been great. Gotta
make him better this week.

Speaker 1 (01:07:19):
Yeah. One of those things about not being great was
when he had the tight end Jack Andrey's open and
just let him too much on the pass. And he
said that, you know, sometimes mistakes like that are difficult
to move beyond.

Speaker 16 (01:07:30):
I mean, part of this is pretty annoying. I mean,
the guy was wide open and I missed him. But
you know, I'm gonna get those throws. I'm gonna get better.
And I told Jack we're gonna get it again, and
I'm gonna hit you and go score.

Speaker 1 (01:07:44):
So does he beat himself up when he missed his
stars like that?

Speaker 16 (01:07:46):
I mean a little right after you're like, damn, what
the hell is that? But you gotta move on. You
gotta flush at one play at a.

Speaker 1 (01:07:51):
Time, all right. He was also asked about the fun
element and the reason why is he said back in
the summer he wanted to enjoy and have fun being
the quarterback. So is he still having fun?

Speaker 14 (01:08:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:08:02):
I do.

Speaker 14 (01:08:02):
I still think I'm having fun.

Speaker 16 (01:08:04):
Obviously the game didn't go the way we wanted to
on offense, but uh, I'm still having fun, Like my
mindset's been the same each week and kind of continue
to have more fun.

Speaker 1 (01:08:14):
All right, And he was asked are their teammates who
have helped him and helped make the game fun for him?

Speaker 14 (01:08:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 16 (01:08:21):
I think Taf does a really good job of that,
just checking out with him each week, and then guys
like Trey and c Ford just leaning into them.

Speaker 1 (01:08:28):
Okay. He was also asked about the fact the Longhorns
have had the sluggish starts to games in the first half.
How did they move beyond that?

Speaker 16 (01:08:39):
Yeah, I think just getting in a groove, playing physical
from the jump, not waiting until the you know, third
or fourth drive second half to get going, and just
staying connected.

Speaker 1 (01:08:49):
One positive that's come from it is they've had back
to back games without turnovers. How does that all go
into it?

Speaker 16 (01:08:55):
Just the coaches hyping on or harping on not turn
the ball over, winning the turn over margin, and that's
when you have.

Speaker 14 (01:09:01):
A chance to win the game.

Speaker 1 (01:09:02):
Okay. So he's asked because somebody had to ask him,
does he worry about losing his job as a starting quarterback? Nah?

Speaker 14 (01:09:10):
I control what I can control.

Speaker 16 (01:09:12):
I work hard during the week, prepare my best, and yeah,
let's go out and try my hardest on game there.

Speaker 14 (01:09:17):
That's all you can That's all I can do.

Speaker 1 (01:09:20):
So now we get ready for Mississippi State. How about
his thoughts on the Bulldog defense?

Speaker 14 (01:09:24):
They fly to the ball, they play a lot of players,
they force turnover. So I'm there a good group. We're
excited for this opportunity, right.

Speaker 1 (01:09:31):
So there it is comments from Arch banning and getting
ready for the Mississippi State Bulldogs this week and the
importance of trying to turn it around and with the
offense and keep the winning going the most important part
of all of that. All right, Coming up next, we'll

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shift back to the NFL. We'll talk about the Dallas Cowboys.
We'll visit with their play by play voice Brad Sham
when we continue on thirteen the Zone. Okay, the reason
why we came back with this song, this one by
the Beatles. I call you to hear the cow bell
in the background, not the one I have here, but
this is an example of what we're talking about on
a cow bell contest log. Worn's play at Mississippi State

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this Saturday, and the fans, of course are armed with
cow bells and we want to know what is the
best song with a cow bell excluding Don't Fear the
Reaper because of the Saturday Night Live skit, So no,
Don't Fear the Reaper by Blue Oyster Cult. But the
best cow bell song and the best entry on our
talkback feature will win a pair of tickets to the

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Texas Vanderbilt game. So we'll do that, all right, I'm
gonna go back to the NFL and talk the Cowboys
with a friend, mentor and my boss for seven years
up in Dallas, the play by play voice of the Cowboys,
and you hear him on our FM ninety eight point
one fmcavep with every Cowboys game. Bratch him joins us,
I'm going to ask you something I've never asked you before.

(01:10:57):
In all the years I've known you, I've never asked
you this. When you were growing up in the Chicago
area in the sixties, was your family into the Beatles?

Speaker 8 (01:11:10):
I don't think my parents were.

Speaker 11 (01:11:13):
They watched I mean, you know, they watched Ed Sullivan,
so they they were very musical. They were very much
into music. But my mother loved opera, and they both
liked show tunes, and they both liked popular music. I
don't remember them being into the Beatles when you were

(01:11:33):
growing up then, and I was in high school in
the mid sixties, so you pretty much had to make
a choice between the Beatles and the Rolling Stones, and
I picked the Beatles, and so I never had really
cared for the Stones very much.

Speaker 14 (01:11:50):
I like that.

Speaker 1 (01:11:50):
I like that kind of went that way as well.
My brother's all one with the Stones as well. It's
good of visit with you, and I appreciate you taking
a few minutes the.

Speaker 14 (01:12:00):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:12:02):
I listened to Brian Schottenheimer's press conference and somebody actually
it was it was the Jerry Jones Radio and there's
a marked difference obviously between those two, but there's somebody
asked Jerry if this offense was as good as he
has seen in a while, and he said yes, and
he said, this is exactly what we had in mind

(01:12:25):
when we brought Brian in to do that. Was it
kind of what you thought could definitely be the case
with this offense once he took the reins.

Speaker 11 (01:12:35):
That not that day, but one of the first things
he said, and he said it at his introductory press conference,
was that you know we're going to run. I want
to be I want to run and I felt pretty
I was pretty convinced that Dak was totally bought in

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with him. If Dak had preferred Kellen Moore and then
Kellen Moore could have been the head coach. My feeling
and understanding was that Dak really was more into, bought
into what Schottenheimer wanted to do. So from that day,
you know, we all heard what he said, but McCarthy
said the same thing as well, but he just didn't
mean it, and so Schottenheimer has meant it. And the

(01:13:20):
thing that I think is impressed is Schottenheimer in conjunction
with Kendall Adams, the offensive coordinator who's been the offensive
line coach in Phoenix for a couple of years and
was his.

Speaker 12 (01:13:35):
I think he was with the Cooleston.

Speaker 11 (01:13:38):
They've got a unique perspective along with Connor Riley, who
was the offensive line coach at Kansas State. So the
three of them together kind of put that running game
together and shot the passing game is what Schottenheimer has
been wanting to do. We wouldn't have had any way
to really know that, Craig, but Schottenheimer was ready to

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call plays again as he had done previous in his career,
and if McCarthy had stayed, then Shottenheimer was leaving because
McCarthy was going to call a play. And I think
they've kind of figured out as they had their conversations
that Shottenheimer had something that they really could tap into.

Speaker 3 (01:14:19):
So I.

Speaker 11 (01:14:22):
Can't say I expected it. I am extremely pleased with
what they've done for two reasons. One, it's working and
he is doing what he said he would do. But
the real the key thing to me is, I mean
for two of the two of the last three years.
I don't know if it was the case in twenty one,
but in twenty two, twenty three, and also last year,

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their offense got off to a very sluggish start, and
it was either twenty two or twenty three that before
their by CD, Lamb was complaining, not in a way
that would make you a nuisance, but in a way
that people knew, Hey, you know what am I out
here for? I'm not getting the ball. And then in

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twenty three and twenty four before thatk got hurt, they
just were not on all cylinders offensively, and this year
they were from the beginning. So my estimation is that
what Schottenheimer is doing is much more in sync with

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the players that he has than what McCarthy did offensively
for the last couple of years. I know the numbers
that Dak put up at twenty three and MVP and
blah blah blah, and they were great numbers. He had
a great year, but they didn't start off like a
great year. This one has been pretty functional from the beginning.
The only thing about them that's been pretty functional from
the beginning. But I think that that's I don't know

(01:15:54):
efvernybody knew what to expect. But it impresses me that
Schottenheimer said what he meant and then meant what he said.

Speaker 1 (01:16:00):
Well toward that end. And I remember, obviously back in
the day when it was with you up in Dallas
and was covering those press conferences out at Valley Ranch,
and Tom Landry is always great to tear from him,
but you know, he had his style away obviously, Jimmy
Johnson had his Barry Switzer. Certainly, that is my question

(01:16:20):
was going to be, how far back do you have
to go to hear from a head coach of the
cowboys who is, as I guess, is upfront and I'm
even going to use the word refreshing, I guess, But
but it's mainly because it's just so different than what
we've heard in a while. How far back you have

(01:16:42):
to go to to find the Cowboys.

Speaker 11 (01:16:43):
Coach like that? Yeah, that is a really good question.
That's a really good question. I have to sit here
and think back, because one thing that has always struck
me about these guys, and a few of them I
have asked about it directly, is why they are the

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way they are with the media, and most of them
are different. I don't know if you find this at Texas,
but most of them are different with the media than
they are that is to say. When I say with
the media, I mean especially at press conferences in front
of TV cameras. They let down their guard a little

(01:17:26):
when the cameras aren't there for some reason, even though
things that they say are on the record. But like
even Jason, you know, Jason Garrett still a dear friend,
and I was friends with him from what he was
a player here. But he told me what he was
clearly trying to be friendly and outgoing, but he was

(01:17:51):
more than guarded. And he told me once that he
learned from Nick Saban when he worked for Saban at
the Dolphins, that the the approach that Saban took was,
I am, I see nothing that benefits me by saying
anything that won't help me win. I mean, Wade Phillips

(01:18:11):
just didn't trust the media. You know, Dave Campo probably
was guileless, but he didn't have a lot to work with.
I mean, Parcels played him like a fiddle. Now, if
you go all the way back to Landry, then it's
a different era. It's the whole relationship is different as

(01:18:35):
time goes on. Now, we like even Schottenheimer has his
little quirks. He reminds us a little more than uncomfortable
with about how authentic he.

Speaker 8 (01:18:47):
Is, even though I do think he is authentic.

Speaker 11 (01:18:50):
My experience with him away from the public glare is
that he is the same way. I just would like
to hear him remind us of that a little less.
And he has as much as you can from day one.
And this has been the big thing that surprised me.
He's answered questions. I mean, as you well know, most

(01:19:13):
of them don't answer a question. They say words, but
they don't answer the question.

Speaker 8 (01:19:17):
Now, he you know, as the season goes on and things.

Speaker 11 (01:19:19):
Happen, then there are things that go on that you
can't say, and so you talk around it a little bit.
I don't think that he's done that as a rule.
I think he does it when he has to. So
I think refreshing is a really good word, and I
do think look McCarthy, after about the second year.

Speaker 8 (01:19:39):
He really didn't like this job.

Speaker 11 (01:19:42):
He didn't like all of the show, the glitz that
could be. Being the coach of the Dallas Cowboys is
a doable job, but it's not like being the coach
of the Colts or the Bengals. It's just not There's
stuff that comes with it, and you can succeed if
you can embrace that stuff. Mike didn't like it, and

(01:20:05):
so that came through. I thought by the fourth year
that was really clearly coming through. Then by last year
he was mad that he didn't get an extension, and
and I thought that came through. So it's a whole
different attitude from Schottenheimer.

Speaker 8 (01:20:21):
And it's yeah, it's been quite a while since.

Speaker 11 (01:20:23):
There was anybody who seemed to be as at ease
with it.

Speaker 1 (01:20:26):
Yeah, this just me that being around it. I think
what you also just described as being the head coach
of the Texas Longhorns, because there's no doubt.

Speaker 11 (01:20:37):
There's no doubt that Hey, if you're if you're if.
I don't mean to diminish coach Farence, but if you're
the coach of the Iowa Hawkeys, the things you do
may be very well scrutinized in Clinton and Des Moines,
but it's not the same as being the head coach
of the Texas Longhorns or the head coach at Notre Dame.

(01:20:59):
It's just the same.

Speaker 3 (01:21:01):
Now.

Speaker 11 (01:21:01):
You can succeed, but you have to embrace all of
those things.

Speaker 6 (01:21:05):
You have to know it going in.

Speaker 11 (01:21:07):
You have to then say I will not just succeed
in spite of I will make this part of the UBRA.
And I think the Schottenheimer's done that well.

Speaker 1 (01:21:18):
And and what made me also think about that when
when you talked about how uh you know o'carthy didn't
like it, Charlie Strong didn't like it, Tom Herman didn't
like it, and and the guy and the guy who's
the closest to pulling that that double off, that that
identity since Matt bround mac brown is the guy who's
doing it right now, so I think I think that's

(01:21:41):
that's about to fit. The CEO thing doesn't mean he
can't have a smart alec or snarky answer and a
press or. He's had his share, just to Shottenheimer ask
but but it's more real than and more embraced than
those other guys.

Speaker 11 (01:21:56):
Did I would? I'd say that your read is very
perceptive and act.

Speaker 1 (01:22:02):
There were a couple of things for visiting the brad
Shamboys and the Cowboys here on the program. There are
a couple of numbers I noticed on the website that
just blew my mind and I wanted to get your
life again. This is from the files of did you
Expect this? Javonte Williams seven touchdowns and seven games, tying
him with Herschel Walker and Bob Hayes for the most
touchdowns in their first seven games with the franchise.

Speaker 10 (01:22:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (01:22:25):
I mean that is one of those statistics that it
really means nothing, but it is interesting and so could
you have expected that? No nobody knew. That's why universally
around the league they were laughed at for signing it.
Nobody thought he had anything left, and they give will
McClay credit for that. He was the one who first said,

(01:22:45):
I think this guy fits what Schottenheimer's trying to do
and if you, if you ever go back and look
at any of his tape from North Carolina, I mean,
he looks like he looks like a mini earl. He's
running over people's he's punishing them. It's it's scary. And
so now now it's different. The NFL are bigger, and

(01:23:08):
he's had the knee injury. But he's a relentless runner
with some of the greatest patients that I've ever seen.
And I don't know how long the magic carpet ride
will play out. He's a very smart young man, very
nice young man, and you know, I hope for him
that it's able to continue for for quite a while.

(01:23:29):
But you couldn't have possibly seen this coming On the
defensive side.

Speaker 1 (01:23:33):
Another number I saw there two sacks of both Jayden
Daniels and Marcus Mariota. Uh And for the four straight game,
coming out on top of the turnover battle. Is this
defense getting better?

Speaker 3 (01:23:47):
It can?

Speaker 11 (01:23:50):
That's an unanswerable question until they play again.

Speaker 2 (01:23:53):
Yeah, I do think that.

Speaker 11 (01:23:55):
And I'm a fan of Matt Abraflus. I obviously knew
him when he was here before. I think he's a demonstrated,
very good defensive coach. I don't pretend to know enough
to be a coach. A lot of people in our
business think they can do it. I don't. But it
appeared to me that he was so married to how

(01:24:20):
he wanted to play that he made the mistake of
trying to fit a square peg into a round hole.
And that is coaching one oh one. People do forget,
especially in the NFL, when guys aren't playing in the preseason.
Then come in with a new, you know, third coordinator
in three years and it's a completely different thing, and

(01:24:41):
the coaches have to learn the players. So they like
he brings Sanborn with him from Chicago because Sanborne was
a pretty effective role player for what he did with
the Bears. And you know, Murray I thought had his
best game.

Speaker 1 (01:24:59):
Someday.

Speaker 11 (01:25:00):
Uh maybe with a little different role because Sanborne was
kind of the lead green dot lead signal caller before
he got hurt.

Speaker 8 (01:25:09):
And then when Sanborne got his concussion.

Speaker 11 (01:25:12):
Two weeks ago, they put Shamar James in because he
practiced well. Now he doesn't always know where he's going,
but he gets there in a hurry and he hits
something when he gets there, and so that's good. And
so if if Shamar James can keep a little bit
of that going and continue to improve at the rate
he's improved, and he's he's making mistakes, he's seeing things

(01:25:34):
that he doesn't see, doesn't think he sees. And but
if he just keeps getting better and he's on the
field with an improved Murray and in about three weeks
Overshown comes back. Now, then you ask me if the
defense is getting better. But you can't say they are
getting better until they play well with some modicum of consistency.

(01:25:55):
They still don't have enough good players, I'll get you
want a statistic that will bend your mind.

Speaker 8 (01:26:00):
This is the one that blew me out coming into
the game.

Speaker 11 (01:26:04):
And some of these statistics, as we all know, and
it's true in collegists as in the NFL, they don't
mean what people who quote them on Twitter think they mean.
But they're guideposts their thing.

Speaker 1 (01:26:17):
They're interesting.

Speaker 11 (01:26:18):
So passes defense, Okay, that means in the NFL it's
a league statistic, and an interception is a pass defense,
and a ball that's broken up is.

Speaker 1 (01:26:30):
A pass defense.

Speaker 11 (01:26:31):
So if a defensive tackle blocks the pass at the
line of scrimmage, that's a PD that's a pass defense.
But when a cornerback is running down the field with
a guy he's watched the ball of white. That's a
pass defense. Okay. Yeah, So they went into the game
last week. Through six weeks and their cornerbacks, all of

(01:26:53):
the cornerbacks on the roster had a total of one
pass defense and that was Ready Stewart, who was playing
the slot receiver at the time. No outside cornerback had
put his hands on a football in six weeks. And
now Bland had the interception, and he had another one

(01:27:16):
I think he knocked down. So now they've got two.
I mean, are you serious? And so they are. They
are short in the talent pool back there. Now, if
saman Rebel is able to come back and is anywhere
near being healthy, I guess you must have seen him
in West Virginia.

Speaker 1 (01:27:36):
Yep.

Speaker 8 (01:27:37):
Uh, he's supposed to be really good.

Speaker 11 (01:27:40):
I've never seen him. I don't know.

Speaker 8 (01:27:42):
And you know he's now he's now fighting through.

Speaker 11 (01:27:45):
A knee, which is they've activated his practice windows. So
I think I think that they think that Rebel and
Overshown will both be able to be back after the
bye for the road Monday night game in Las Vegas.

Speaker 8 (01:28:00):
In mid November, and that can that can do something.

Speaker 11 (01:28:04):
For him, but they're hey, their cornerbacks have been not good.
Diggs has been playing not well. Bland wasn't really healthy.
I thought last week, forget the interception, I thought it
was his best game. He looked confident, he was running
pretty well. They're outside cornerbacks just have not been very good.
And that's that keeps me from answering.

Speaker 8 (01:28:28):
Yes, their defense is getting better the players, but they
if they are in fact.

Speaker 11 (01:28:34):
Going to consistently put the players in better positions to
fit the talents. And Clowney had his best game, so maybe.

Speaker 8 (01:28:41):
He keeps that going a little bit. They still don't
have enough.

Speaker 11 (01:28:45):
Good players on that side of the ball. But as
has been written and spoken endlessly the last few weeks especially,
they don't have to lead the league. If they can
be average with the offense they've got, they can win
some games. They just haven't been. They've just been as
bad as the offense has been good. That's a problem.

Speaker 14 (01:29:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:29:05):
By the way, for what it's worth, we had Demarvin
overshown on the On Sark Show last week. Demo says
he'll be back in a couple of weeks. He's he's
all fired up about it.

Speaker 11 (01:29:15):
I had him, you know, I do a Monday night
show with a player, and we had him on the
first one this year, and oh my god, the the
vibes just and you know it, but way better than
I do. But the vibes just emanate from this guy.

Speaker 3 (01:29:30):
You know.

Speaker 11 (01:29:31):
It always has tickled me, Craig when when a player
announces that he is the leader. If a player ever
announces that he is the leader, he is not the leader.

Speaker 1 (01:29:40):
That's right.

Speaker 11 (01:29:42):
And the players who are the leaders never have to
say the word. They never say it. And I promise you,
from the minute he walks on the field, the Maarrion
overshown will be the guy who they followed.

Speaker 13 (01:29:54):
He'll be the guy who to.

Speaker 11 (01:29:57):
Whom they gravitate, and who's practice habits and whose effort
in the game and the way he plays, and that
will he'll be the leader. And he'll never tell you
that because he doesn't have to. Right.

Speaker 1 (01:30:12):
I'll let you go with this. I need your help
on the quote from that from that famous that you
had locker room SoundBite tape slash CD that's made its
way down through files through the years. Reggie Jackson did
the quote go you need to do a better job

(01:30:34):
of asking the question that you want answered in order
to get me to give you the answer of something
like that. I was trying to remember, Well, I.

Speaker 11 (01:30:43):
Think it was. I think it was our friend Art Haynes,
to whom he said that it was. He am I
right about that?

Speaker 1 (01:30:50):
Yeah, because that's what he followed about, you can take
your microphone and your glass.

Speaker 11 (01:30:54):
Your microphone and your glasses, and then he needed to
tell Art what he could do with all of those things,
all of which.

Speaker 8 (01:31:04):
Were physically impossible even.

Speaker 11 (01:31:06):
With exaggerated surgery even then.

Speaker 8 (01:31:10):
So but yeah, I mean, I think I think about right.

Speaker 1 (01:31:14):
It comes up in my mind a lot when I
hear a lot of the questions that get asked of
Sark or the players, And all I'm thinking to myself is,
Reggie Jackson, Reggie Jackson, you got to do a better
job of asking the question you want ask I think
it is in order to get me to give you
the answer you want, or something like that.

Speaker 11 (01:31:35):
It's it's it's like a guy who is the guy
who would be who would get my vote as the
coach most likely to say the football coach most likely
to say that right now would be Brian Kelly. Yeah,
he's been right there several times in postgame press conferences

(01:31:58):
this year of doing exactly that. Why don't you ask me?
But he's not in a nice way. He's the one
I nominate.

Speaker 1 (01:32:08):
Yeah, I second it. Hey, it's always great to visit.
I appreciate you taking the time and look forward to
seeing you down the road and visiting with you again.

Speaker 8 (01:32:19):
Me too.

Speaker 1 (01:32:20):
Hook him, thank you? All right? That's Brad Champions. Yeah, yeah,
And he was a voice of the Longhorns nineteen eighty ninety,
nineteen ninety, the h the eighty eighty nine and eighty
nine ninety season, I guess or eighty nine, ninety and
ninety ninety one seasons.

Speaker 2 (01:32:36):
Okay, yeah, those are that's my dad's freshman year.

Speaker 1 (01:32:40):
Really yeah, yeah, okay, Well that's that's when Brad did
the Longhorn games. He did, and of course he's been
doing the Cowboy games all but I think it was
a three year span when he was doing the Rangers.
Other than that, he's done play by play on We've
been on the Cowboys broadcast in seventy six and then
in the play by play role since eighty four.

Speaker 5 (01:33:01):
You know what my dad told me yesterday, was it
he remembers that Texas Mississippi State game from ninety one.

Speaker 1 (01:33:07):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, and that and that would have
been Jerry Trupiano on the play by play with Bill
Shoning to win color. That was the one year Troop
did the play by play. Brad at that point was
not doing the Longhorns after that because the Cowboys left,
went across town and wasn't Longhorn affiliate. So that's why

(01:33:28):
that happened the way it did. So true Piano did
the play by play for one year and then he
left to go to the Red Sox and Bill Schoning
was doing color. He was the analyst, and then Bill
moved the play by play cheer in ninety two, and
then that's when I came in as the analyst in
ninety two and we did ten football and nine basketball
seasons together. But Troup was the play by play voice
that year. That infamous game in stark Bill in ninety one,

(01:33:50):
the last time Texas played in Starkville. I say infamous
because if you know anything about what happened when they
had the the Long War and cattle castrated there in
the locker room. Jackie Errol did that. Yeah, yeah, this
is news to me. Yeah, yeah, I was to get
his players attention. I think could show them what they
planned to do to Texas m Yeah he did. Okay,

(01:34:13):
he did.

Speaker 2 (01:34:14):
That's messaging.

Speaker 1 (01:34:15):
Yep. That's when he was coaching Mississippi State.

Speaker 5 (01:34:18):
Do you imagine that happens today with all the five
K cameras they have in the locker rooms.

Speaker 1 (01:34:21):
Probably wouldn't happen, to say nothing of animal rights folks
and other folks getting after because there was there was
some hubb up about it even back then, back in
ninety one. I was the studio anchor that day, because
I was the studio anchor from eighty eight through ninety one,
so I was the studio anchor the day of that game,
that Texassissippi State game. All right, more were coming up
here on sports Radio AM thirteen under the zone of
the iHeartRadio app was made.

Speaker 6 (01:34:43):
Just give it away, Just give it.

Speaker 1 (01:34:48):
I han't heard this one in a while, but the
King George straight so many number one hits? Did you
just randomly pick this one? Or did you did you
like this one?

Speaker 16 (01:34:58):
Well?

Speaker 5 (01:34:58):
Have we s I waded into brad Sham. We could
have done the Cowboy rides away?

Speaker 1 (01:35:03):
Well, well, we could have done that.

Speaker 2 (01:35:04):
But this was on theme for our giveaway with the
Texas Vanderbilt tickets.

Speaker 1 (01:35:09):
Yeah, yeah, that's right because there's some cow bell and certainly,
as we said, we want you to avail yourself of
the opportunity. But again, the key things to remember on
this contest. One, you have to download the iHeartRadio app
if you haven't already, it's free and easy. Two, you
search AM thirteen under the zone three. You see the

(01:35:31):
little red button with white microphone, and so you do that,
and then you leave us a up to thirty second
voice message telling us what you think the best song
with cow bell in it is. And again, Don't Fear

(01:35:54):
the Reaper by Blue Oyster Cult is not eligible because
it was just you know, you know, it's it's so publicized.
Everybody knows it really really well. In fact, we've had
drops from that skip today from Saturday high Line. So
that's what you want to do with that, Okay. A

(01:36:14):
couple of things on the text line. Seatpal says, wow
Crystal City seven and oh I coached versus them from
ninety four to ninety seven a piersol and was a
children ninety three. Good for them. Yeah, that's a that's
a big game with Hondo. And then somebody said, did
y'all mention Permian versus Midland Lee. They're not Middlan Lee
again until next year. Still Midland Legacy. They're going back

(01:36:36):
to Lee next year. It was only the first ever
televised high school football game, after all. And I've rushed
four times for seventeen yards, all right for a kerry
in that epic battle in the seventeen fourteen Mojo with
Hey listen, I'm sure you'll be interested in it. That
is the game that's going to be televised on Victory

(01:36:58):
Plus on Friday. I will not doing the game. I'll
be in Well two Plow, which is where the team
is staying. I'll be there, you know, over in eastern Mississippi.
But that's the game on Victory Plus Friday night, is
Permian against Midland Legacy. So just make a note of that,
all right. We'll be back to wrap up today's program
on thirteen under the Zone

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