October 21, 2024 • 14 mins
Craig Way explains the controversial decision from Saturday's officiating crew that overturned a Carson Beck interception and resulted in Texas fans throwing objects onto the field. The University of Texas was fined $250,000 as a result of fans trashing the field with some believing it bullied the referees into changing the call.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Here on a long orange Monday, we'll review the Texas game,
look ahead to the next action long Horne. We're gonna
hear more from head coach Steve Sarkisian coming up. Also,
if you have questions to get to us, happy to
field those as well. All you have to do is
text the word Texas follow by your question or comment
to eight one five three zero. That's your question or
(00:21):
comment to eight one five three zero. Standard messaging and
data RaSE may apply. Okay, this will harken back to
a story we had an inconceivable not that long ago.
On the text on somebody says, Craig, did you recline
your seat? And he answers, yes, I did you remember
that story camp about the person getting angry at the
(00:43):
person reclining their seat on the airplane.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
On the airplane, Uh oh yeah, yeah I did. I
did good memory texture, Yeah, well done, I did. I did.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
I did recline my seat. But but I'm good. Somebody,
if it was going to get in somebody's way, then
I would have limited my recline, but it did not,
so it worked out well.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
I did reclimb my seat, though. Listen. After calling the
game Saturday, I got home.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
About one o'clock in the morning, got to bed about
one thirty, got up at four point thirty to catch
that flight yesterday morning out to La Spent the whole
day out there, roaming around the Hollywood Hills and then
to the Hollywood Bowl for the concert, and then after
(01:34):
the concert back to Lax. Dropped the rental car, get
on a red eye flight home. We landed about eight
twenty this morning, and then it was straight over to
campus to get ready for Sark's news conference, which we
brought to you live this morning on the Zone.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
So yeah, I was.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Going to recline, in other words, so I could sleep
a little bit on the plane, a little bit, you know,
even though I have learned to sleep on planes, still,
you know, you can't sleep soundly of wake up and
you know, go back to sleep and all that other
kind of stuff. So anyway, I did reclimb my seat. Okay,
somebody said, cheese. It's our favorite, too, the regular ones
(02:14):
or the or the extra toasty, because that's the ones
that Linda likes. This is the extra toasty. She kind
of got kind of got me turned on to him
as well. You know what, we didn't like too much
camera remember when Pizza Hut did that cheese at pizza
where they did where the crust was like a cheese it. Now,
oh yeah they did. They tried this a few a
few weeks a few years ago. The cheese it came
(02:37):
out kind of gooey, kind of gummy, which I would imagine,
I guess with a pizza, So it didn't really do
much for us. And then of course lately Taco Bell
has been doing that cheese at tostada thing. Uh, and
my son Jason tried that and he said it was, eh,
it's okay.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
You know.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
It was that kind of thing.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
That's one of those deals where Linda's life. Linda says
things like stay in your lane, cheese its, you know,
just keep cranking out the extra toasty and she'll be fine.
Somebody asked, should the reffs have conferred and picked up
the flag instead of rushing to announce the DPI and
(03:18):
then confer while water bottles rained down before reversing themselves.
Red crew did not help these still inexcusable response by
upset fans. Okay, this opens up the Pandora's box, which
we need.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
To get to.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
I explained it Saturday night on the air, but I
realized not everybody was listening to us, and we're at
the game and unable to listen, or we're dieting. Some
we're watching and listening to the television call. Some might
not have been around a radio or whatever. But what
I'm about to tell you is what It's a combination
(03:56):
of things about the stuff that happened in the moment
there on Saturday night, and some of it retroactively comes
from the SEC in their statement, and the other is
something that happened almost in the real time that was happening.
I got worried from actual football officials about the procedure
(04:18):
that was going on. So obviously we're talking about the
interception by Shaddibert. You have that highlight you were playing
that you were kind of working with that as Viking
fence defensive play the game.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Right shot is you want to hear it? Yeah? Sure,
all right, So here's here's the play. Here's what happened
on the play.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Coon down to nine, Georgia Crumb the Bulldog thirty one
shotguns snapped the back, sends it out left, the intercepted
it shot a barn Barn twenty five, twenty fifteen, ten
turns it down to the nine yard line. Shot a
Baron brings it all the way back to the line
and the longbarns we'll have first and goal.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Now, let me tell you that as I called it,
I saw the flag come out, and of course, and
this is not a bad thing. But whenever that happens
and I'm in the middle of the call, I've got
let's see one, two, three, four, sometimes five additional people
in the booth, and they're all waving like flag, flag, flag,
(05:24):
and that's okay, and I kind of hold up my
hand to acknowledge it. Yeah, I understand it, but I'm
going to finish the call in case the call was
against the other team, which ultimately that's exactly what happened.
I even said on the air, See, that's why we
finish out the call, the highlight call, you know, that
kind of thing. But in the moment, as we know,
past interference was originally called against shoddy Barron. Now I
(05:49):
understand where fans had come through. I've read a lot
of social media stuff between going out to LA and
back in the last twenty four hours, and it really
start not long after the play itself happened on Saturday night,
I understand where a lot of fans.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Said, you know, it was a bleeping bleep call or whatever.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
It was a terrible call, YadA YadA, and it insided
the fans to throw the bottles. And then when all
the stuff was being thrown on the field, that's when
the officials got together and change their mind.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
That is incorrect, that's incorrect.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
I've read another tweet where somebody said that they were
ready to snap the ball.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
They were not. No, that was not correct either.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Right after it happened, when Sark was kind of, you know,
questioning it and was jumping them down and saying what
he was saying the officials, the officials then started.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
To gather to discuss it.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
At about the same time that students and fans in
that northeast corner started pelting the end zone. It out
on the field with the plastic contour, water bottles and
then other debris as well, which is never good.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
That should never be allowed.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Sark even walked out there and said, hey, knock it off,
we don't do that. So on and so forth. I
made public address announcements all that kind of stuff. We
saw the officials go down there. Then the officials come back,
the call gets reversed, But it didn't get reversed because
of any gap in time between what happened with the bottles.
It didn't get reversed because of the water bottle incident
(07:33):
or the trash throwing debris throwing incident. It didn't get
reversed on review either. It's not a reviewable play. Although
many feel that pass interference should be reviewed, that's.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Not why I got reversed. Why I got reversed.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Is and from the sec they said, the officials got together.
I believe it was the field judge who threw the
flag for defensive pass interference meant to tell the referee,
I've got OPI offensive pass interference, but he didn't.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
He said I got a DPI.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
And so then the referee looked up there and he
saw shot and he said number seven. He goes yeah.
The official said yeah. So then they they made the announcement.
Of course, everybody loses their mind and to go and
go crazy and all the other kind of stuff. Then
they start to I think the official got a little
bit CONFUSA says a way went way minute, and they
started to have a conversation. Then the debris comes down
(08:32):
all right, it's later on, after the factors, after all
that happened and the stuff was cleaned up and all
of the and all of that, and Sark made his
plea to them, and then the announcement was made by
Matt Leffler, the referee, that it was not a defensive
(08:55):
pass interference call.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
After all of that happened, we were saying on there,
I've never seen that before. Where that would happen after that,
I've never seen that happen before. Well, we didn't know
all the stuff that went into it that when they
got together again, when they reconvened, then they said, no,
it's an offensive pass interference. Here's the rub of what happened.
(09:20):
Why was there the delay before that happened? One reason,
and one reason only safety. I had text messages coming
from officials who said in that sequencing, in that moment,
the first job of the referee and his crew is
to secure the safety on the field of the people
(09:41):
on the field. So you go and deal with the
safety issue first of the bottles and the trash. Then
you come back and finish the discussion. It wasn't that
the discussion was set up by the debris being thrown
onto the field. They had already already to walk together
to convene when the trash hit the field, then they
(10:04):
immediately have to turn their attention to go up to
the north east corner, get that resolved, then come back
and deal with it. So then they deal with it,
and it's an offensive pass interference call. And the reason
you didn't hear Matt Leffler, the referee say offensive pass
and difference is because Texas had declined it. He just said, yeah,
(10:25):
we're going down here, and then boom to get the
game going again.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
It's down at the nine yard line. That's what happened.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
But I understand how the appearance can look like, oh yeah,
then then they had a chance to go back and
review it, or then they had a chance to go back. No,
they had already started to gather to discuss it when
the trash was hit in the field. Then they immediately,
by rule and by their policy, have to go and
(10:52):
diffuse that situation before they can discuss it. So just
want to make sure that everybody understands that's what That's
what happened on that So somebody said, hey, Craig, did
you get to meet herb Street And Ben. I saw
that you were right next to them in the booth.
You got a little TV time on Saturday thanks to
(11:12):
Jacob from Dennison. I've met Kirk before. I've I've visited
with Herbie. In fact, I've had him on my show
in the past. Good dude, get along with him.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Five. I've not had a chance to meet Ben yet.
You know who really wants to meet Ben.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
It's my wife. She loves Ben. She wants to meet Ben.
And and so no, I have not had a chance
to meet Ben. But Kirk, I know somebody else is
roasty toasty like those cheeses. And then someone I said,
Tom Brady now owns ten percent of the Las Vegas Raiders,
although Brady himself is one owned by the New York Giants.
(11:49):
And that's that's cute SNL weekend update there, all right, anyway,
So there's there is more of that explanation. Hopefully that
kind of helps. Now, none of that zero, none of
that condones accepts, understands or any of that. What happened
(12:09):
in the northeast corner of the end zone with the
throwing of the trash, it's always an absolute no. You
can't have it. You just can't have it. University's fine
two hundred and fifty thousand dollars. They are instituting their
policy where they're scanning video to see if they can
identify because this is also, by the way, mandated by
(12:31):
the SEC. They have to make a good faith effort
to see if they can identify person or persons who
are throwing the debris.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
On the field and.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Take action against thoseburg whether it's revoking tickets or this
or that or whatever it is, they have to do
that as part of this policy from the SEC.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
It's similar, Craig, to what happened in twenty twenty two
against Alabama. Remember when we thought Bryce Shawn was Bryshaw
was so in the end zone for a safety and
and it turns out he would have been calling personal
foul against Texas Offensively, the student section was just right
behind that end zone ended up throwing things on the
field after the play. Again, yep, there's not condoning it,
(13:14):
but no, this is happening. This is exactly just like
Alabama two years ago.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
And I understand the Texas fans getting into it with
Georgia fans posting the stories about when Georgia did it
back in twenty twenty one. All that other kind of stuff,
twenty seven thousand wrongs don't make it right. Just all
of it's wrong, every bit of it's wrong. You just
can't have it. For safety's sake, for sportsmanships sake, for
all of it. Can't have it. And I think everybody
(13:41):
knows that. But and I won't put it one hundred
percent on the students, but the vast majority were students.
Those who were there, you still should know better.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Can't do it. You just can't do it.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
All right, We're going to hear more from Longwin s
head coach Steve sarkishan coming up on sports Radio I
Am thirteen hunder Zone in the IR radio app
Here on a long orange Monday, we'll review the Texas game,
look ahead to the next action long Horne. We're gonna
hear more from head coach Steve Sarkisian coming up. Also,
if you have questions to get to us, happy to
field those as well. All you have to do is
text the word Texas follow by your question or comment
to eight one five three zero. That's your question or
(00:21):
comment to eight one five three zero. Standard messaging and
data RaSE may apply. Okay, this will harken back to
a story we had an inconceivable not that long ago.
On the text on somebody says, Craig, did you recline
your seat? And he answers, yes, I did you remember
that story camp about the person getting angry at the
(00:43):
person reclining their seat on the airplane.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
On the airplane, Uh oh yeah, yeah I did. I
did good memory texture, Yeah, well done, I did. I did.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
I did recline my seat. But but I'm good. Somebody,
if it was going to get in somebody's way, then
I would have limited my recline, but it did not,
so it worked out well.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
I did reclimb my seat, though. Listen. After calling the
game Saturday, I got home.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
About one o'clock in the morning, got to bed about
one thirty, got up at four point thirty to catch
that flight yesterday morning out to La Spent the whole
day out there, roaming around the Hollywood Hills and then
to the Hollywood Bowl for the concert, and then after
(01:34):
the concert back to Lax. Dropped the rental car, get
on a red eye flight home. We landed about eight
twenty this morning, and then it was straight over to
campus to get ready for Sark's news conference, which we
brought to you live this morning on the Zone.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
So yeah, I was.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Going to recline, in other words, so I could sleep
a little bit on the plane, a little bit, you know,
even though I have learned to sleep on planes, still,
you know, you can't sleep soundly of wake up and
you know, go back to sleep and all that other
kind of stuff. So anyway, I did reclimb my seat. Okay,
somebody said, cheese. It's our favorite, too, the regular ones
(02:14):
or the or the extra toasty, because that's the ones
that Linda likes. This is the extra toasty. She kind
of got kind of got me turned on to him
as well. You know what, we didn't like too much
camera remember when Pizza Hut did that cheese at pizza
where they did where the crust was like a cheese it. Now,
oh yeah they did. They tried this a few a
few weeks a few years ago. The cheese it came
(02:37):
out kind of gooey, kind of gummy, which I would imagine,
I guess with a pizza, So it didn't really do
much for us. And then of course lately Taco Bell
has been doing that cheese at tostada thing. Uh, and
my son Jason tried that and he said it was, eh,
it's okay.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
You know.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
It was that kind of thing.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
That's one of those deals where Linda's life. Linda says
things like stay in your lane, cheese its, you know,
just keep cranking out the extra toasty and she'll be fine.
Somebody asked, should the reffs have conferred and picked up
the flag instead of rushing to announce the DPI and
(03:18):
then confer while water bottles rained down before reversing themselves.
Red crew did not help these still inexcusable response by
upset fans. Okay, this opens up the Pandora's box, which
we need.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
To get to.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
I explained it Saturday night on the air, but I
realized not everybody was listening to us, and we're at
the game and unable to listen, or we're dieting. Some
we're watching and listening to the television call. Some might
not have been around a radio or whatever. But what
I'm about to tell you is what It's a combination
(03:56):
of things about the stuff that happened in the moment
there on Saturday night, and some of it retroactively comes
from the SEC in their statement, and the other is
something that happened almost in the real time that was happening.
I got worried from actual football officials about the procedure
(04:18):
that was going on. So obviously we're talking about the
interception by Shaddibert. You have that highlight you were playing
that you were kind of working with that as Viking
fence defensive play the game.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Right shot is you want to hear it? Yeah? Sure,
all right, So here's here's the play. Here's what happened
on the play.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Coon down to nine, Georgia Crumb the Bulldog thirty one
shotguns snapped the back, sends it out left, the intercepted
it shot a barn Barn twenty five, twenty fifteen, ten
turns it down to the nine yard line. Shot a
Baron brings it all the way back to the line
and the longbarns we'll have first and goal.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Now, let me tell you that as I called it,
I saw the flag come out, and of course, and
this is not a bad thing. But whenever that happens
and I'm in the middle of the call, I've got
let's see one, two, three, four, sometimes five additional people
in the booth, and they're all waving like flag, flag, flag,
(05:24):
and that's okay, and I kind of hold up my
hand to acknowledge it. Yeah, I understand it, but I'm
going to finish the call in case the call was
against the other team, which ultimately that's exactly what happened.
I even said on the air, See, that's why we
finish out the call, the highlight call, you know, that
kind of thing. But in the moment, as we know,
past interference was originally called against shoddy Barron. Now I
(05:49):
understand where fans had come through. I've read a lot
of social media stuff between going out to LA and
back in the last twenty four hours, and it really
start not long after the play itself happened on Saturday night,
I understand where a lot of fans.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Said, you know, it was a bleeping bleep call or whatever.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
It was a terrible call, YadA YadA, and it insided
the fans to throw the bottles. And then when all
the stuff was being thrown on the field, that's when
the officials got together and change their mind.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
That is incorrect, that's incorrect.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
I've read another tweet where somebody said that they were
ready to snap the ball.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
They were not. No, that was not correct either.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Right after it happened, when Sark was kind of, you know,
questioning it and was jumping them down and saying what
he was saying the officials, the officials then started.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
To gather to discuss it.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
At about the same time that students and fans in
that northeast corner started pelting the end zone. It out
on the field with the plastic contour, water bottles and
then other debris as well, which is never good.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
That should never be allowed.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Sark even walked out there and said, hey, knock it off,
we don't do that. So on and so forth. I
made public address announcements all that kind of stuff. We
saw the officials go down there. Then the officials come back,
the call gets reversed, But it didn't get reversed because
of any gap in time between what happened with the bottles.
It didn't get reversed because of the water bottle incident
(07:33):
or the trash throwing debris throwing incident. It didn't get
reversed on review either. It's not a reviewable play. Although
many feel that pass interference should be reviewed, that's.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Not why I got reversed. Why I got reversed.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Is and from the sec they said, the officials got together.
I believe it was the field judge who threw the
flag for defensive pass interference meant to tell the referee,
I've got OPI offensive pass interference, but he didn't.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
He said I got a DPI.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
And so then the referee looked up there and he
saw shot and he said number seven. He goes yeah.
The official said yeah. So then they they made the announcement.
Of course, everybody loses their mind and to go and
go crazy and all the other kind of stuff. Then
they start to I think the official got a little
bit CONFUSA says a way went way minute, and they
started to have a conversation. Then the debris comes down
(08:32):
all right, it's later on, after the factors, after all
that happened and the stuff was cleaned up and all
of the and all of that, and Sark made his
plea to them, and then the announcement was made by
Matt Leffler, the referee, that it was not a defensive
(08:55):
pass interference call.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
After all of that happened, we were saying on there,
I've never seen that before. Where that would happen after that,
I've never seen that happen before. Well, we didn't know
all the stuff that went into it that when they
got together again, when they reconvened, then they said, no,
it's an offensive pass interference. Here's the rub of what happened.
(09:20):
Why was there the delay before that happened? One reason,
and one reason only safety. I had text messages coming
from officials who said in that sequencing, in that moment,
the first job of the referee and his crew is
to secure the safety on the field of the people
(09:41):
on the field. So you go and deal with the
safety issue first of the bottles and the trash. Then
you come back and finish the discussion. It wasn't that
the discussion was set up by the debris being thrown
onto the field. They had already already to walk together
to convene when the trash hit the field, then they
(10:04):
immediately have to turn their attention to go up to
the north east corner, get that resolved, then come back
and deal with it. So then they deal with it,
and it's an offensive pass interference call. And the reason
you didn't hear Matt Leffler, the referee say offensive pass
and difference is because Texas had declined it. He just said, yeah,
(10:25):
we're going down here, and then boom to get the
game going again.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
It's down at the nine yard line. That's what happened.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
But I understand how the appearance can look like, oh yeah,
then then they had a chance to go back and
review it, or then they had a chance to go back. No,
they had already started to gather to discuss it when
the trash was hit in the field. Then they immediately,
by rule and by their policy, have to go and
(10:52):
diffuse that situation before they can discuss it. So just
want to make sure that everybody understands that's what That's
what happened on that So somebody said, hey, Craig, did
you get to meet herb Street And Ben. I saw
that you were right next to them in the booth.
You got a little TV time on Saturday thanks to
(11:12):
Jacob from Dennison. I've met Kirk before. I've I've visited
with Herbie. In fact, I've had him on my show
in the past. Good dude, get along with him.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Five. I've not had a chance to meet Ben yet.
You know who really wants to meet Ben.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
It's my wife. She loves Ben. She wants to meet Ben.
And and so no, I have not had a chance
to meet Ben. But Kirk, I know somebody else is
roasty toasty like those cheeses. And then someone I said,
Tom Brady now owns ten percent of the Las Vegas Raiders,
although Brady himself is one owned by the New York Giants.
(11:49):
And that's that's cute SNL weekend update there, all right, anyway,
So there's there is more of that explanation. Hopefully that
kind of helps. Now, none of that zero, none of
that condones accepts, understands or any of that. What happened
(12:09):
in the northeast corner of the end zone with the
throwing of the trash, it's always an absolute no. You
can't have it. You just can't have it. University's fine
two hundred and fifty thousand dollars. They are instituting their
policy where they're scanning video to see if they can
identify because this is also, by the way, mandated by
(12:31):
the SEC. They have to make a good faith effort
to see if they can identify person or persons who
are throwing the debris.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
On the field and.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Take action against thoseburg whether it's revoking tickets or this
or that or whatever it is, they have to do
that as part of this policy from the SEC.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
It's similar, Craig, to what happened in twenty twenty two
against Alabama. Remember when we thought Bryce Shawn was Bryshaw
was so in the end zone for a safety and
and it turns out he would have been calling personal
foul against Texas Offensively, the student section was just right
behind that end zone ended up throwing things on the
field after the play. Again, yep, there's not condoning it,
(13:14):
but no, this is happening. This is exactly just like
Alabama two years ago.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
And I understand the Texas fans getting into it with
Georgia fans posting the stories about when Georgia did it
back in twenty twenty one. All that other kind of stuff,
twenty seven thousand wrongs don't make it right. Just all
of it's wrong, every bit of it's wrong. You just
can't have it. For safety's sake, for sportsmanships sake, for
all of it. Can't have it. And I think everybody
(13:41):
knows that. But and I won't put it one hundred
percent on the students, but the vast majority were students.
Those who were there, you still should know better.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Can't do it. You just can't do it.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
All right, We're going to hear more from Longwin s
head coach Steve sarkishan coming up on sports Radio I
Am thirteen hunder Zone in the IR radio app
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An unlicensed lizard psychologist travels the universe talking to strangers about absolutely nothing. TO CALL THE GECKO: follow me on https://www.twitch.tv/lyleforever to get a notification for when I am taking calls. I am usually live Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays but lately a lot of other times too. I am a gecko.