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May 8, 2025 • 51 mins
It's a shortened edition of The Craig Way Show on Wednesday. Craig and Cameron Parker discuss Texas Baseball's win over Lamar and hear from Jim Schlossnagle postgame as the Longhorns prepare for Florida this weekend.

Plus, did the Cowboys make a smart trade? And NBA and NHL Playoff discussion...
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Games can't always go the way you want to go,
you know, including for the Round Rock Express. It did
not go well this afternoon. They fall to the El
Paso Chihuahuas out in El Paso.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
But they'll get back after it again tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (00:11):
We get after the program here on an abbreviated edition
of the program here about half of our normal link.
Glad to have you with us here on this Wednesday afternoon.
My name is Craig Wait, thanks very much for joining us.
The producer is Cameron D.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
Parker.

Speaker 1 (00:25):
That he on the Perth certificate stands for Dallas, as
in his favorite pro football team that he has refused to.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
Watch or follow.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
A more about that coming a little later on, because
maybe something's happened that might help flip the script.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
We'll do that a little bit later on in the program.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
And also we'll have a look at the NHL Stanley
Cup playoffs, some college football notes about the SEC that'll
be coming up in the four o'clock hour. We'll do that.
But good afternoon to you, sir. I am really curious
to get your take on this. Not only and we

(01:08):
talked about this yesterday. Not only was it disappointing for
the Oklahoma City Thunder and fans of the team like
yourself to see them drop game one. But they are
hardly alone because for the first time in the current
NBA playoff format that's been going on since nineteen eighty four,

(01:35):
visiting teams went four and oh in Game one of
the Conference semifinals, so the first time they've had the
conference semifinals in this well, they started the Conference semifinals
in this best of seven format in nineteen eighty four,
and it's the first time ever that the visiting teams
went four and oh in game one. Road teams had

(01:56):
gone three and one in Round two openers on three
other accusations two years ago, twenty twenty three, back in
twenty fifteen and twenty eleven. But it's first time four
and up? What is this the National Hockey League? What
the world's going on here? And it continued last night
and a win for the Golden State Warriors, maybe costly,

(02:18):
we'll see about Steph Curry and that hamstring, but they
won at Minnesota. So all four of the visiting teams,
including the Indiana Pacers, who won both of their games,
so they've already won their Game two. They're going home
with the two O League. Now you cautioned folks yesterday

(02:41):
cam about how good Indiana was and maybe had gone
a bit overlooked. But here they are, you know, and
they're up to nothing going home after having beaten Cleveland.
Closer examination shows that Cleveland really had a hard time
against them this year. They NIGA won three against them,
So they had a hard time against the Pacers, and
they're still clearly having a hard time. But for the

(03:03):
Knicks to beat the Celtics, and then now in addition
to that, the thunder falling to the Nuggets, and then
last night the seven seed Golden State knocking off the
sixth seed which had knocked off the three seed Lakers.
But they beat the Timberwolves at Target Center last night
four to oh in games one, game number ones of

(03:27):
those series.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
What do you make of that? How about that? What
has happened to home court advantage in the NBA? Like
I said, it's a turn into the AHL doesn't really
feel like it exists anymore.

Speaker 3 (03:38):
I mean, obviously the evidence and second in the second
round so far shows that. But most of these games,
I think, Craig, you know, a reminder that you got
to play all forty eight minutes because you know Boston's
lost in New York in game one, they were the
better team for I don't know forty five minutes, ended

(03:59):
up losing okay See in Denver. Okay See was a
better team for forty seven minutes and forty eight seconds
in Denver pulled it out. And the last night, you know,
even with a Cleveland team without three starters going into
that game, you're thinking, man, it's going to be two
nothing in Indiana. Going back to Indiana now down two games,

(04:20):
but here we are through three quarters and Donovan Mitchell
just absolutely carrying the load for Cleveland, up by I
believe twenty points at one point in that game. It
got to the fourth quarter and you know, Cleveland began
to just run out of gas. In that game, Indiana
started chipping away and chipping away and chipping away, and

(04:40):
you know, the last minute really just inexcusable from from Cleveland.
They looked like a college basketball team trying to inbound.
You know how inca tournament game, especially first and second rounds,
when you got like Holy Cross playing you know whoever,
Juansas Kansas, and you know it's a one or two
or a three point game in all you you need

(05:01):
is this inbound the ball? And so many times you
see a shot clock file or inbound violation or a
bad turnover and it's man, it's like man like you
never see that in the pros.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
Well, not last night.

Speaker 3 (05:13):
And Cleveland really struggled and there was a lot of
points where you know, it's like three like you know, one, two, three,
four finally thrown the ball in and it came back
to buy them. And you know, give a lot of
credit to Tyrese Halliburton for one who had to deal
with the overrated chance.

Speaker 2 (05:28):
He's over the most overrated player in the NBA.

Speaker 3 (05:31):
Yeah, and that anonymous player poll, well he wasn't last night.
And you know there was some lack of a box.
There's two free throws where Cleveland gave up an offensive
rebound which ultimately led to Indiana's comeback.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
Especially the second one where they had to miss home purpose,
where Haliburton had to miss on purpose.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
And still get it, yes, and still get it.

Speaker 1 (05:51):
And it did make me think about that quote unquote
anonymous player poll voted Tyrese Haliburton as the most overrated player.
Why why ask me, why do you think why would
they vote? Why would they vote him. I mean, I know,
you know, that's part of the things where they're asked
to vote on all these different things. And and uh

(06:15):
and and by the way, I think that's kind of
low rent and kind of snarky. Put who do you
think is the most overrated player? What good does that
do to anybody?

Speaker 2 (06:23):
What is it good?

Speaker 1 (06:25):
Was there a Cleveland player or more than one Cleveland player.

Speaker 2 (06:30):
Voting on that? What do they think?

Speaker 1 (06:33):
Now?

Speaker 2 (06:33):
What does anybody think now that might have voted against him?

Speaker 3 (06:36):
Well, it's funny because you know, you saw the overrated
chance and Donovan Mitchell, who you know, was telling the
crowd to you know, to stop, you know, which was
a great sign of sportsmanship. You know, Cleveland may have
lost the game last night, Craig, but sportsmanship won.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
But you know, hey, yeah, fans Field there chanting overrated.
Oh yeah, he just stuck it in you well, and
it's funny because you know, right in your heart he
didn't leave the team in scoring last night.

Speaker 3 (07:03):
Miles Turner had twenty three and heist to that twenty three.
Haliburton had nineteen, but you know that three pointer at
the go ahead bucket. We will be what's remembered from
from Game two. So overrated is very interesting. You know,
if you're talking about overrated, I think John Morant's overrated
compared to where he is popularity wise. You know, he's
seen as like maybe a face of the league. But

(07:24):
his stats and his play and what the Grizzies have
done does not reflect that. Halliburton's taken Indiana at least
to the Eastern Conference Finals in Hey Craig, their two
wins away from being back there again.

Speaker 2 (07:36):
Yeah, amazing.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
By the way, so far in these playoffs, road teams
road teams are twenty three and twenty five. Consider that
that is on pace, believe it or not, to be
just the third best overall playoff record in NBA postseason here,
so it doesn't count. The Bubble season twenty twenty, nobody

(07:59):
technically at home. They were all in Orlando. Road teams
have gone three and one, as I mentioned in Round
two openers, on three other occasions in the current format,
which states to nineteen eighty four. It also happened inside
the Bubble when the teams had home and road designations,
but they were all on the neutral floors inside Walt
Disney World. Four to oh never happened until now and

(08:22):
so never know, we'll see how it is going forward
from there. Okay, coming up, I look back at Long
Horn Baseball last night and where this team is again.
Coming up in the four o'clock hour, we'll talk about
the Cowboys trade that they made with the Pittsburgh Steelers.

(08:45):
We've got some college football notes from the SEC and
also NHL Stanley Cup playoffs with the Stars. Beginning by
the way, we typically capt to the Texas Stars, who
are up to games to one. Won the first two
games of that series, and it was really weird in
Grand Rapids in the game and had to wait several
days afterwards because of college graduations and things like that.

(09:08):
So it's a very very strange thing on arena availability.
But they won. They won four to nothing and four two.
Now they come home. They play Friday night at Atbson.
They can't wrap up that first round series against Grand
Rapids with a win on Friday night. So hey all
as well in the land of the Green and Black
of the Dallas Stars and their Triple A farm.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
Club, if you will, the Texas Stars.

Speaker 1 (09:33):
So we'll talk from NHL coming up next hours up
next from college baseball. When we continue on thirteen hundred
of the zone from UFCU Dish fark Field. It's the
Texas lag Horns against the Lamar Cardinals in the final
non conference game of the twenty twenty five regular season.
Good evening, everybody. I'm Craig Way alongside Keith Morland.

Speaker 2 (09:52):
Glad to have you with us here on this final
Tuesday Night you didn't week game.

Speaker 1 (09:56):
The log Horns are trying to turn things around after
dropping all three games in the conference series last weekend
against the Arkansas Razorbacks. At two balls on a strike
and he hits it right back to the mouth. They'll
go to second for one relay.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
The first in.

Speaker 1 (10:11):
Time double play inning over Ethan Walker considered coming home
for a moment, then decided to turn.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
A one six to three double play and the log
Worns are.

Speaker 1 (10:21):
Out of the inning with minimal damage done. Here's the
one two pitch to Joona Williams and he chops in
on the ground. It's going to be a tough play
up with it no play, Williams is able to beat
it out for an infield single in from third to tie.
The scorer is Adrian Rodriguez. It's a one to one
ball game with the basis still loaded in two outs.

(10:41):
Here's the three ball, one strike pitch to Shusler and
it hit him. It hit him, the second hit batter
of the inning. It'll bring in another run. Schusler chatting
with the home plate umpire Flint Fagan as he walks
down the first in from third to score. As Tommy
Farmer Casey Borba advances the third, Joonan of Williams to
second and Kimball's Schusler hit by a pitch to drive

(11:03):
in a run, puts Texas in front two to one.
Here's the three ball, two strike pitch to Damian Ruiz
and strike three called got him looking big bument there
Ethan Walker works a one two three top of the
fifth inning. Here's the three to zero pitch way outside
ball four bord but we'll get credit for an R

(11:25):
andbi a basis loaded walk trotting in from third to scores.
Jayalen Flores and the Longhorne now lead three to one.
Three balls, two strikes, two ounce, the bases loaded, the
runners off on the payoff pitch to Tommy Farmer, and
it's outside ball four.

Speaker 2 (11:40):
The third run to cross.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
The plate for Texas because of either a walk or
a hit batter coming in to score from third is
Kimball's schusler, and it's now four to two Texas late
and that one is right into the glove of Howard.

Speaker 2 (11:55):
He'll throw the first.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
Double play line shot.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
Cody cool as.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
A cucumber snags it in the glove, flip to first.
That's how you erase a lead off walk out of
the stratch. Jose Garris pitch swung on the ball, hit
well out toward right back to the warning track.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
You can say good night to it.

Speaker 1 (12:15):
A po taco for Casey Borbo over the right feel
of wall, and the lag Worns have some insurance. They
now lead six to three, three bowls and two strikes
to camp. Here's the three to two pitch to Galvon
and he swings and lines in the left field of
base hit one run, scores shoes third, motoring around third.
He's being waved to the plate and hillsorem. A double

(12:39):
from Ryland Galvon opens it up. Now, third extra base
hit of the inning and the log Worns now lead
at eight to three. Seventh hit of the night for
Jaxas four runs across the plate. Here in the bottom
of the eighth and Flora singles to right, that'll drop
in rounding third, Galvan being waved to the plate, the
throw not in time. Flores go the opposite way with

(13:01):
the base hit and it's nine to three.

Speaker 2 (13:03):
Texas.

Speaker 1 (13:05):
Hamilton trying to lock down his first career stage and
this has hit on the ground. He's going to get
it as up with it on the Fida first ten time.
Jalen Flores makes the play six' three and The longhorns
bounce back into the win column tonight in their final
non conference game of the season in the ninth, one

(13:28):
two three go to The. Cardinals the final score tonight
The Texas longhorns nine and The Lamar cardinals, three and with,
that the Long horns closed out the non conference portion
of the, season picked up win number thirty nine and
thirty nine and. Eight of, course the HUGE sec series
with The Florida gators is looming ahead as we continue

(13:50):
here on thirteen hundred the. Zone you heard like some
of the, highlights AND i almost use quotations around that around,
highlights but thanks To cameron for compiling the highlight. Montage
the highlights included guys who were getting free, passes, walks hit,
Batters lamar pitchers walked Sixteen longhorn batters and hit two

(14:12):
and really going into the bottom of the, Eight texas
was up four to three but only had three. Hits
there was a little bloop single From Tommy farmer in
the two run. Fifth there was an infield single you
heard the highlight of it that brought in a run
From John williams and Will gasprino at a butt makes.
Hit that was it until they opened up with the

(14:34):
five runs on the five hits in the, eighth including
the home run From Casey borba and the double that
they had right after that.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
From Johenna.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
Williams So longhorns get the win thirty nine and Eight
after the, game listen close to you go Here jim's
clasting talk about it and use that word frustration in
a way that tells the story about how his hitters
were wanting to unleash and sometimes the situation just wouldn't
call for. It it's time now for a postcame conversation

(15:03):
when they had Coach Jim. Slasnagel let's go down to
the field the Key.

Speaker 4 (15:06):
Skippers sometimes there's ball games where you can't really figure
out what was. HAPPENING i couldn't figure out what was
happening because couldn't get a hit when we needed, to
and then all of a sudden they started getting.

Speaker 5 (15:15):
Hits, yeah would they walk at sixteen seventeen? Times, yes
it's a frustrating. Game when we're TAKING vp, today the
wins howling out the right field and we hit we
must have hit twenty home runs IN vp the right
field like right handed. Hitters and then when they cap
and then the game came, On galvan's ball would have

(15:36):
been A Grand, Slam farmer's ball would have been a home.
Run and then when their guy comes, up the wind
dies and his ball gets.

Speaker 2 (15:44):
Out but it was.

Speaker 5 (15:45):
Frustrating you, know we had so many base runners we
actually only had that's those situations with one out two
times it was all it was, all it was all two,
outs bases, Load like what's his, Name Williams jonah came
up three times at the bases loaded in two, outs,
right so like you're you're you're counting on timely. Hits

(16:05):
that could have been a sixteen run, game but we
didn't get that marey many. Hits so, uh frustrating, night
but you know we had we didn't have to use
a bunch of arms that we you, know trying to
keep in the. Bullpen And hamilton did a nice. Job
ethan did a great. Job that's WHERE i was gonna. Go,
yeah came in throwing. Strikes, man what a what a
fine he?

Speaker 4 (16:23):
Is, YEH i mean just left hand or in a crucial,
situation he comes in and gets.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
You he gets you six.

Speaker 5 (16:29):
Outs, yeah, YEAH i throw strikes and you, know you,
know sinks it just.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
Enough AND i mean him And.

Speaker 5 (16:36):
Bing you, know they're not not high end, stuff but
he is unique from his release slot and where he
pitches off the. Rubber So max has done a great
job as we we, have like we have the flu
running through our, teams so you, know we got guys
out because of, sickness guys out because of a little
nick knack here.

Speaker 2 (16:53):
There so this is overall really good. Win thanks for
taking the. Time. Thanks, yeah they're happy to get that.
Win on.

Speaker 1 (17:01):
That those who were in the media who were covering
it were a little delayed in getting an opportunity to
hear From Jim schlastnegel because there was A hitters. Meeting
Now schlas wasn't conducting, that it Was, tim it Was
Troy tulowitsky too low had. That so they had a

(17:22):
little meeting with the hitters to try, to you, know
sort out some things because there were some opportunities where
they couldn't come up with a big hit until they
got into the bottom of the.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
Eighth that, said they were.

Speaker 1 (17:33):
Also conscientious enough and discerning enough not to chase out
of the, zone which is a lot of what they
did in the series loss At. Arkansas so you take
what's handed to you. Sometimes and now at thirty nine
and eight they get ready for The Florida. Gators and
before we get to the break, here just to get

(17:55):
you caught up on, this the latest regional projections are
OUT d. One, baseball of, course has been doing this
for a. While they do still Have texas is the
number one overall. Seed of, course they still Have texas
as their number one team ranked in the. Country they
have changed this a little bit in terms of the

(18:16):
teams that might come To. Austin for, example last week
they HAD tcu listed as a possible number two seed
coming To. Austin now they HAVE utsa as the, Two
Kansas state is the, three and Or roberts the projecting.
Win The Summit league as the, four matching up with
the winner of a regional In, tucson With arizona's the.

(18:37):
Sixteen they're the one seed, There Southern california two number
three seed you guessed, It TEXAS a AND, m and
the number four Seed Sacramento. State, arkansas by the, way
is the projected number two overall seed With Dallas Baptist
kansas And Missouri state in that. Regional they have projected
THEIR lsu As Florida state the three of, roll matching

(19:01):
up with a regional hosted By oregon Where oklahoma would
be the two. Seed, oh he's been one of those
teams on the bubble trying to host the same thing WITH.
Tcu they have them dropped to a two seed playing In, Eugene,
oregon where that's the thirteen, seed match up with the four,
seed where they HAVE lsu projected the. Host they Have
georgia projected as the five, Seed auburn is the, Sixth

(19:23):
North carolina is the, seven And vanderbilt is the. Eight
tennessee is the, Nine clemson the number ten overall, Seed
Coastal carolina up to. Eleven they Beat clemson for the
second time last, night swept Them West virginia the twelve,
Seed oregon the, Thirteen Oregon state the, Fourteen ucla the,
fifteen And arizona the. Sixteen the last four in they
Have Kansas, State, Kentucky, Iowan xavier the first four OUT.

(19:46):
Utrgv they may have to win the conference room to
get In Western, Kentucky michigan And Notre dame And ford to,
watch they, say Or, Virginia Virginia, Tech Kennesaus, state And.
Washington and then in the baseball tournament, projections they still
Have texas as the one seed hosting With dallas baptist
a Projected Southland, winter UTR gv is the, three And

(20:09):
bryant from The American EAST WoT and they still HAVE
tcu hosting as the sixteen seed overall With oklahoma the,
Two northeastern the, three And nevada the. Four all, right
we'll be back to wrap up our number one of
the program here on thirteen under The. Zone this will
be the only full hour of the program today what
with the length of the day game In El paso

(20:30):
for The Round Rock express and The El Paso. Chihuahuas
but AS i mentioned when we took air following the
end of the, game that it was a situation where
we'll certainly get to as many topics as we can on.
This so with that in, mind the first thing THAT

(20:51):
i wanted to call Upon Cameron parker's review on this
is The cowboys team trade For George. Pickens it's making national.
Headlines it became official this. Morning so The cowboys are
sending a twenty twenty six third round pick and a

(21:12):
twenty twenty seven fifth round pick to The steelers in
exchange For George pickens and a twenty twenty seven sixth round.
Pick Cam the general consensus from those who were examining this,
trade as they examined pro football pundits and writers and,

(21:32):
follows is that The cowboys, fleeced outright fleeced The steelers
on this. Steal do you?

Speaker 2 (21:37):
AGREE i don't know about.

Speaker 3 (21:40):
Flee so remember the issue With George pickens is he
was always having off the field issues and even on
the field issues With Mike tomlin and The. Steelers you
know HE i mean remember last Year Mike tomlin and
that press conference Saying pickens just has to grow. Up you,
know there's questions about his his, worth ecket, work. Ethic you,

(22:01):
know there was the play against The bengals last season
where he just did not block and was asked about
a post game and he, said, OH i didn't want
to get injured when it could have been possibly the
go ahead touchdown For. Pittsburgh there's all these little things. Here,
now he is extremely. Talented usually he stays pretty. Healthy
three seasons so, far he's plat at least fourteen games each.
Season he's gotten close to the one thousand yard mark

(22:24):
in all. Three so the talent is, there it's just you,
know what's going on above the, neck you, know head
and shoulders? Mentally is he going to be there game
in and game? Out and you, know Remember pittsburgh made
the trade FOR Dk. Metcalf you know they're Pursuing Aaron.
Rodgers here they, Go they're gonna have this weapons tandem
Of metcalf And pickens And Aachie harris and then With

(22:48):
Aaron rodgers at. Quarterback then they go ahead and just
trade Away pickens and now possibly Pursuing Alan. LAZARD i
think most people would Agree pickens is a better receiver Than.
Lazard so why Is pittsburgh okay with trading? HIM i
think there's two factors in. Play already mentioned off the
field issues With. Pickens the second thing is he's entering
the final a year of his.

Speaker 2 (23:09):
Contract it's rookie.

Speaker 3 (23:10):
Deal it's gonna make about three million dollars per, year
which is great for The cowboys because they already have
a lot of cap space and not worry about taking
on a big. Contract but he's gonna want an, Extension,
craig and it Seems dallas is making this trade knowing
they're possibly going to have to Extend. Pickens and obviously
The Michael parsons stuff is still going, on so sounds
Like pittsburgh was not willing to Pay pickens a long term.

(23:33):
Contract and they do a great job of drafting receivers
in the, draft and maybe they go After lazard, anyway
the Former iowa state, product who of course did play
With Aaron rodgers with The, jets so there's some chemistry.
There and you, know we know How rogers likes to
have his, receivers and possibly there was concerns Of metcalf
And pickens b thing possibly With Aaron. Rodgers so it

(23:55):
does help The cowboys receiving corps because you, know our
biggest concern going into this drafts Was, okay well they
dropt the. Receiver carolina ended up taking McMillan From, Arizona titoro,
McMillan The arizona product at number. Eight cowboys, decided you know,
What we're not going to Draft Matthew. Golden we're gonna
end up taking best available to go With Tyler, booker

(24:16):
The alabama, guard and do not draft a receiver at.
All so going into this, season it was, like, man
the receiver posision is so, light it's so without depth
that If Ceedee lang gets, injured it's welcome back taken,
possibly so it makes Sense dallas made this. Trade but
this is one of those, Trades, CRAIG i think where it's.
Inconclusive wait to see what happens at the end of the,

(24:37):
season because there's a chance That pickens Goes Antonio brown
here and just walks out of the team locker room
halfway through a game this.

Speaker 1 (24:43):
Season, NO i agree with you on, That and by the,
way that is partially PARTIALLY i don't even know if
it's the main. Thing probably, isn't BUT i think it
is a factor in why The steelers made the.

Speaker 2 (24:55):
Deal you touched on. It this tells me.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
MORE i was kind of convinced of it, Anyway But
i'm even more convinced now that they're really going to
push hard to try to get a deal done With Aaron.
Rodgers and if they, Do Aaron rodgers does not you,
know he didn't want to work with this. DUDE i
have a. Film they probably have a. Field maybe they
got feedback from him, ALL i don't. Know and like you,

(25:20):
Said Alan lazard is a guy he's comfortable. With he's
GOT Dk, Metcalf he's been, very very complimentary OF. Dk
got to work with him out In california on a,
deal so on a, workout and SO i think they're
trying to set the table to make it as comfortable as,

(25:40):
possible because it's Possible aaron could have, said what's the
deal with This pickens?

Speaker 2 (25:45):
Dude you?

Speaker 1 (25:45):
Know and so they go like they, yeah right exactly
now to be, fair to be fair To George pickens incredible,
talent as we, mentioned so he ran a lot of
deep fades and go routes last YEAR i think about

(26:06):
twenty percent of the. Time it was the tenth highest
rate among receivers with at least three hundred routes, run
and he managed over nine hundred, yards as he pointed,
out in fourteen games last. Year he hit eleven hundred
and forty receiving yards two years. Ago and he's what's
interesting about. This he had a forty eight open score

(26:30):
in twenty twenty. Two that means the ability to get,
open but it rose to seventy and sixty eight the
past two. Years but the catch score dropped from ninety
nine his rookie year to seventy two and twenty foe
and then just forty last.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
Year so.

Speaker 1 (26:46):
You, know we'll, see you, know about a guy who
can get open but making the. Catches and then like you,
said there's there's the other thing it's, about you, know
how committed is he as a. Teammate is he good
in the locker? Room can he be? Good And Dak
prescott kind of have him toe the? Line and and

(27:07):
is he comfortable being the two because we know who
the number one is? There so is he comfortable being
the number two? Guy to see Thee.

Speaker 3 (27:15):
Lamb one thing of note in his three seasons With,
pittsburgh this is who he's had at, quarterback WHICH i
think is important to keep in. Mind his first, year
can he pickett In Mitch trubisky and picking still had
eight hundred receiving yards fifty two, Receptions SO i don't
think those two guys are considered a Future hall of.

(27:36):
Famers his second season In, pittsburgh can You, Pickett, Mason
rudolph And trubisky? Again and last season definitely an upgrade
at the. Position Russell wilson in justin fields at quarterback
and Led pittsburgh with nine hundred yards fifty nine, receptions

(27:56):
may have gotten a thousand. Yards we didn't miss those
two games with a hand string. Injury So Dak PRESCOTT
i believe will be the best quarterback he's played. With
and now he's Got Ceedee lamb on the opposite, side,
who of course we all know ced a great route,
runner great you, know kind of intermediate. Distance now you Have,

(28:18):
pickens who is that vertical, threat which should open up
things in the passing, game which would hopefully open up
the run game For. Dallas so, DEFINITELY i think the
best Situation George pickens has been in throughout HIS nfl,
Career so hopefully that will produce better results for. Him
it's just you, know, mentally where is he at is

(28:39):
he you, know if he has a game Where Cede
lamb might have eight receptions one hundred and fifty two
yards two touchdowns And pickens has one reception for you,
know eight. Yards Is pickens going to be in the
postgame locker room talking to reporters talking about, hey free?

Speaker 2 (28:54):
Me you?

Speaker 3 (28:54):
Know is you, know remember The instagram post from two
years ago we posted On instagram free me and deleted
all of His steelers related, posts you, know and then
later on had to kind of walk it.

Speaker 2 (29:04):
Back is that going to happen this? Year and so as.

Speaker 1 (29:07):
Well as two unsportsmen Like cognact penalties like he had Again. Cincinnati,
yeah that were very, costly uh in that game against The.
Bengals so that that's the thing that concerns me the.
MOST i mean, overall you, KNOW i think that what
The cowboys gave up it's not. Bad it's not as
bad as The Amari cooper. Trade that's for, sure a
first rounder and then end up letting him walk where
he hasn't you, know an all pro type season In

(29:28):
cleveland the year. After SO i Think greigham ACTUALLY i
like the trade a, lot and MAYBE i like the,
trade but, again like you, KNOW i kind of want
to see how it plays out this. Year but you,
know Remember i'm not watching The, cowboys so you have
to let me Know.

Speaker 3 (29:43):
George has been good or. No george had two you,
know unsports plank penalties this.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
Game, george let's do the reset here on.

Speaker 2 (29:51):
This on where you are with.

Speaker 1 (29:56):
The willingness to watch your football. Team it has been
you have been, unwilling although you did admit to watching
bits and pieces of certain games last year as it
worked out depending on where you were and who you were,
with maybe like ten minutes. Total really THOUGHT i thought
you watched quite a bit of. It was it The washington.
GAME i watched the very end of that game because

(30:17):
of the on side. Kicks, yeah the kick return touchdowns
and how crazy it. Was SO i saw, that but
that was just more because that was a wild. Finish,
okay all, right all, Right BUT i MEAN i just
want to make SURE i have your your official stance
on this that because you had said something about you
were not willing to watch them unless they reached THE

(30:39):
Nfc championship, game which they've not done since the nineteen
ninety five, season that is that where you still are with.

Speaker 3 (30:44):
This, YEAH i think if they make it to the
divisional round the. Playoffs, okay then you might lift the.
Band tune, In, okay tune, in, okay if things are
going Going. Schottenheimer, yeah and you, know maybe it'll it'll
peauk my. Interest but, again it wasn't super thrilled with
the higher wasn't super thrilled with some of the free

(31:05):
agency moves that they did not. Make so you, know
again it's just you know about they can choose in your.

Speaker 2 (31:10):
Happiness.

Speaker 3 (31:11):
Correct there's a lot of sports going on in the,
fall and especially As texas football gets better and better
and that train keeps, rolling you, know rather rather you,
know watch a team that knows what it's doing versus
a team that is led by a bunch of.

Speaker 1 (31:25):
Idiots, okay all, Right i'm glad you brought that up
about about the long.

Speaker 2 (31:30):
Runs we're gonna get to some of that coming.

Speaker 1 (31:31):
Up but the bottom line on this for me IS
i see it as a low risk situation for The.

Speaker 2 (31:37):
Cowboys, yeah and if.

Speaker 1 (31:40):
Nothing else and let him walk after a, year they're
only responsible for three million dollars this. YEAR i think
it's a low. Risk but that's WHY i think it's
a good. BOOK i don't know about fleecing like some
of the people had written. About BUT i think it's a,
good low risk move for. Them all, right speaking of college,
football some you KNOW i people who know me and

(32:01):
have heard the program KNOW i don't take a real bright.
View in, fact quite OFTEN i take a pretty dim
view of the quote unquote way too early, predictions prognostications
and things like. That but there's a little more substance
to What i'm going to get into coming up next
talking about THE sec and about the long warn football.

(32:22):
Program we'll do that when we continue here on This
wednesday afternoon on thirteen under The. Zone that's not WHY
i we're regaling you With Tom. Jones it's not. Unusual,
no the Ladies man crooner from the, seventies who was
so wildly incredibly popular in the seventies is in town.
Tonight he's at THE Acl Moody, theater and my wife

(32:47):
AND i will be. Attending it's like going to see historical.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
Monuments you. Know i've mentioned, that And Tom jones. Was he.

Speaker 1 (32:56):
Was he was a big time performer in the late
sixties and early. Seventies my parents saw him in, CONCERT
i believe nineteen seventy one In greensboro and The Greensboro,
coliseum and my dad was telling me about the the
multitudes of women who were throwing undergarments onto the.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
Stage. Goodness oh.

Speaker 1 (33:13):
Yeah he was a big time sex, symbol big, big
big time crooner and that was one.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
Of his huge, hits was it's not.

Speaker 1 (33:23):
Unusual and then if he became familiar with the Fresh
prince of Bel, air and then, afterwards you know WHAT i,
said dancing The carlton Where carlon was doing, that that whole.

Speaker 3 (33:32):
Thing how often did you do that dance in the.
Show i've never like really watched the show. BEFORE i
watched it very. Little but he did, It i'm told a. Bit, okay,
yeah so that, nauseum it would pop, up it would
pop up at the. Time so, anyway, yeah we're gonna
go see. It we're gonna go see.

Speaker 1 (33:53):
That you.

Speaker 2 (33:53):
Know will you do The?

Speaker 3 (33:54):
Carlton, nope we'll lend to do? It, Nope, okay let
me just sit turn. Watch i'm curious how many people
in the crowd do it. Well AND i wonder If
Tom jones is, like if he loves, it or if
he is like.

Speaker 1 (34:07):
Really yeah, right you know that was such a later
thing that. Happened he probably didn't mind.

Speaker 3 (34:14):
IT i would say he's probably making some money off.

Speaker 1 (34:18):
It, yeah some, royalties, right, yes, yeah they might have
do with. That so, Anyway, yeah we're gonna. Go we're
gonna grab an early, dinner then we're gonna, go and
we're gonna see this spectacle for ourselves. Tonight you know
our deal ever since we've we've been together and we've
been married nearly three years and we've been together since twenty,

(34:44):
eighteen so we've been together for the better part of seven,
years not quite seven, years but the better part of seven.
Years and we kind of made it our mission to
see as many classic, rock older, rock yacht, rock and
classic performers as we could while they were still out

(35:05):
performing perfect examples of That Boss, Gags, Ambrosia Little River, band.

Speaker 2 (35:13):
Uh and then and then and then.

Speaker 1 (35:16):
Obviously Herb, albert who is ninety ONE i think where
he's ninety and still blowing that trumpet and is. Amazing
and we've seen him twice at The. Paramount The paramount's
a great, venue do that's where we Saw Boss gags as.
Well it's a great, venue and so is the Ax Hill.
Theater The Moody. Theater that's that Is Ace Hill Live.

(35:37):
Theater that's a great. Place that's where we Saw america play,
there and it's a wonderful concert.

Speaker 3 (35:44):
Venue and and you're supposed to See Barry. Mantlow BUT
i believe when they got. Sick, correct that's.

Speaker 1 (35:49):
Correct, yeah, unfortunately that's that that's, Correct and that's when
you're really beat up about. It, yeah, right that's ONE i.
WAS i was not broken up. ABOUT i was willing to. Go,
oh she really wanted to, go AND i filed it
into the category of historical, performers and SO i was

(36:09):
willing to that was going to be At moody, itself
at The Moody center and At Moody. Center and, yeah
we didn't, go but we did See elo there and
she had a great time.

Speaker 2 (36:18):
There and we've seen The eagles And Steely dan.

Speaker 1 (36:21):
There we Saw Steely dan at The residency at The
venetian In Las vegas back in twenty. Nineteen and we're
going there This september on the Open date, weekend AS,
i LIKE i, said celebrate kind of a milestone, birthday
and we're going to go out there to See ringo
start at The, Venetian so we're going to do that

(36:42):
on the open date weekend for, FOOTBALL i will do
that as. Well but we you, know like we've Seen Bob,
seeger and we've Seen Eric, clapton and we've, seen LIKE i,
Said eagles And Steely dan And Doobie brothers and a
lot of. That so we were trying to you, know
see as many of these performances while some of the
these performers who are a bit long in the tooth

(37:03):
are still able to. Perform so that's that's what that's all.
About and we'll go See Tom jones. Tonight, okay, normally
AND i mentioned this going the end of the, Break
i'm not real big on the early and and they're
admittedly they're self admittedly way too early projections because too,

(37:25):
much so much can happen between now and the start
of the football, season even before the start of fall camp.
Workouts And i'm not just talking about The university Of.
Texas i'm talking about all of college football when we
talk about, this and you can make the same arguments
about basket college basketball as. Well BUT i thought that every, day, folks,

(37:47):
KNOW i read like just you, know from the, Morning
i'll read actually starting the night, before but certainly end
of the. MORNING i read a wide array of different, perspectives, opinions,
synopsis analyses of different. Things and there was one ON
Cbs sports that was a. Recap well it's not even

(38:11):
really a. Recap it's a projection based on for THE,
sec based on spring practice and also on the portal
and the schools that picked up. Things and it was
entitled it was TITLED Sec spring over, Reactions tennessee should

(38:33):
sail into THE cfp even Without nico And South carolina's
flash falls. Flat this Is Brandon marcelo who did this,
story and we've read a lot of brand and stuff
in the. Past he goes school by school and talks
about what these schools need to. Do even though he,
said you, know he, SAID i love how he admits

(38:54):
it up. More he, said every fan, base no matter how,
delusional is buzzing with. Hope why not a heisman For leonora's?
Sellers Why Camp vanderbilt Shock texas After diego pave already
took down a number? One and why Shouldn't Bobby petrino's
return Sent arkansas To. Atlanta, well he begins to explain
all of that stuff and he said summer is a

(39:14):
murky time for. Projections the transfer portal reshapes rosters, overnight
and projections made before fall camp often feel more like
guessing games than grounded. Analysis, still that won't stop fans
from spinning the. Wheel he's, right so, anyway he goes
school by. School here's an. Example i'm talking about just
skimming the surface on. This for, Example, alabama he entitles

(39:37):
a playoff run or. Bust kaylen De bore is one
of the winningest coaches in college, Football so let's not
act like a nine win debut At alabama means he's
suddenly forgotten how to build a program into a title. Contender,
yes the pressure is on in year two As Nick saban's,
replacement but he has a roster built to win and more,
importantly a staff he.

Speaker 2 (39:55):
Can trust to.

Speaker 1 (39:55):
Implement His planet goes on into some of the things
like that fan duel. Sports but by the, way set
there over under wind total at nine and a, half
and he, says go over on. That arkansas titles that
The university Of. Attrition arkansas led THE sec with forty
defections via the transfer portal since the end of last.
Season but that's nothing new for The. Hogs they lost

(40:18):
thirty players last year. Too the good news is Quarterback
Tayling green and the play Caller Bobby patrina are, back
so you can expect the offense to at least be.
Exciting the bad news is it's foolish to predict just
how good or bad The razorbacks will be the. Season
that's not stopping us because of the roster's. Fluidity that's
WHAT i say about all of them. Anyway so he goes.
On he thinks reaching a ball game is going to

(40:40):
be difficult for The. Razorbacks, auburn he really Likes, auburn
entitles it Just auburn Being, auburn and he goes on
through and talks About Jackson arnold transferring From. Oklahoma he,
says don't count out a ten win steven. Season florida
THINKS Dj lagway can get them really. Going they have,

(41:00):
of you, know a decent enough schedule to where they
could make this. Work georgia since the receivers are going
to make them among the nation's. Best Zacha Ryaan, ranch
you know. What thomas coming through it and they think
he thinks that'll take pressure Off Gunner stockton at. Quarterback
he's not real high On. Kentucky do something, anything is

(41:21):
what he. Said he, said just getting back to a
Ball they Got zach Cal, zatter remember, him the Former aggie.
Quarterback he said just getting back to a bowl game
would be an achievement after missing the postseason last YEAR.
Lsu he says a lot Of tiger fans don't necessarily
agree with, this but he Says Brian kelly is still.
Elite winning less than ten games is a failure for.

(41:45):
Him his seven season streak and ten win seasons ended last.
Ball but you know he talks about them having Get
Garrett nusmeyer back and what he describes as a deluge
of nil money landing the number one transfer portal. Class
he Said kelly will get The tigers. Back in THE
sec title conversation this, Fall Mississippi state says they got

(42:08):
a really difficult schedule and they're expecting more offensive explusivity
than what they had last. Year they were eighty fifth
in Scoring, missouri even though they've been good twenty one
and five Under Eli drinkwitz the last couple of, years
he's expecting them to fall. Off that bowl game shouldn't
be a, problem he, said but we have our doubts

(42:29):
that The tigers will record a third straight winning. Season,
oklahoma he says The sooners will shock THE. Sec so
he thinks they're going to be much better after leading
the nations and sacks allowed and ranking among the worst
on offensive four point eight yards per play last. Year
But hey talks about them Getting John mattier through the

(42:49):
portal From Washington. State he thinks they're going to be much.
Better ole Miss rebels first playoff team is this. One
he thinks they've got a, shot a real shot to
be in to the play. Playoffs South carolina more flashed and.
Sizzled they've got some playmakers, Then but a really difficult
schedule HAS, Lsu, Oklahoma ole Miss, a and m and

(43:10):
consecutive games and finishes With Clemson. Tennessee an easy, schedule
but didn't we hear that a lot about the long
warns last. Year easy schedule will lead to a playoff.
Appearance they Get georgia And oklahoma at. Home. Wow, yeah
the win total is currently at eight point, five but
he thinks they'll be. Better is there a? Quarterback Is Joey,

(43:30):
aguilar THE ucla transfer will be the? Guy so so
it work out For. Texas you want to, know he,
says Arch madness will live up to the. Height he, Said,
oh it's easy to refuse to buy you to the
hype of yet Another manning becoming an elite. Quarterback but
we're Guzzling texas. Gatorade Arch manning is the answer to
what has kept the Long wrns from winning an SEC

(43:52):
a national. TITLE a consistently explosive. Offense Quinn ewers was just,
fine but ranking twenty ninth and scoring just isn't going
to cut it come playoff. Time manning's duality as a,
runner along with an ultra talented roster will lead to
some of texas most impressive offensive performances of the last.
Decade by stock now while you. Can so that's what

(44:14):
he says about. Saying and finally ABOUT a AND m
prepare for dark horse. Chatter he thinks that they're going
to have a difficult time because of the schedule with
road trips To Notre dame Ls Human. Texas he, said
get ready for folks to slap the dark horse sticker
on the, aggies but we're not buying it with that.
Schedule so there's some stuff there to keep in. Mind all,

(44:35):
right we'll be back to wrap. Up we've got a
little more here on the program on thirteen under The.
Zone let's talk a little IN nhl because we talked
some basketball. Earlier first of, all have you seen the
new name for The Utah Hockey?

Speaker 2 (44:52):
Club? OH i have.

Speaker 3 (44:53):
Not that's.

Speaker 2 (44:55):
Awesome it's absolutely. AWESOME i THINK i know it wasn't
going to be The, yettie right because they couldn't.

Speaker 1 (45:00):
It, so, yeah they passed on the. Yetting but it's
not far off of that. Theme what's the is? It
the big furry white? Thing you got?

Speaker 2 (45:07):
It what's that?

Speaker 1 (45:08):
Called And i'll kill the volume on this so you
can see this their big promotional, announcement the uh new
name for the The Utah Hockey, club which by the,
way was a finalist for it. Too there were a
lot of fans who wanted them to uh stay with

(45:31):
The Utah Hockey. Club they wanted them to have, that but,
uh the name that they have decided on is The Utah.

Speaker 2 (45:40):
Mammoth, interesting.

Speaker 1 (45:41):
Okay and and their big thing is tusks up uh
their deal and uh they they called their COLORS i
think mountain, blue uh something about uh uh it' here
it is looking At Mountain, Blue Salt, White Mountain, blue

(46:03):
And Rock. Black, Yeah, mammoth The utah And, Mammoth, YEAH
i like the better In Utah Hockey. Club, Now linda
Liked washington football team better Than, commanders AND i kind
of Liked washington's football team.

Speaker 2 (46:20):
Too but The Utah, mammoth that's gonna be the new.

Speaker 1 (46:24):
Name the year long, search they said it was ultimately fans.
Selected they had several rounds of fans when they narrowed
the field down and ultimately the fans, Select so good for.

Speaker 2 (46:35):
Them they're doing.

Speaker 1 (46:36):
That, meanwhile in the Current National Hockey league, order last
night the TEAM i root, For Carolina hurricanes were able
to Get game one and overtime they won two to
one At, washington so that was pretty. Cool and also
last Night edmonton Beat vegas to win last night to

(47:00):
win game. One so now the other two. Series The
toronto's up won nothing on the Defending Stanley cup Champion
panthers and they'll play tonight again In. Toronto but But
Cameron's Dallas stars on the road At winnipeg to take

(47:20):
on The, jets and that's a that's a huge assignment
for The, stars not having home. Ice but one thing
they did prove is that they can win away from
The American Airline, center which they're gonna have to do
at least one, time if not, more to win this
series Against.

Speaker 2 (47:38):
Winnipeg it's gonna be. Fun.

Speaker 3 (47:39):
Man The stars in their playoff, history they they never,
DISAPPOINT i, mean down to, nothing looks like it's over
with for, them and then you, know Renting in just
has an, incredible Incredible game seven and it's why you
traded for. Him he delivered in the in the biggest
spots For dallas and just like that a will to

(48:01):
win the series and you, know somewhere To.

Speaker 2 (48:04):
Winnipeg, right you, know they were down.

Speaker 3 (48:07):
In game seven Against Saint, louis looking like it's gonna
Be Saint Louis dallas and, nope you, Know winnipeg flipped
the script just Like dallas. Did so it's two teams
that have a lot of fight and a lot of
grit and no matter what the score, is you're not
it's not over. With so this, SERIES i think we're
gonna see a lot of come from behind. Wins crack

(48:28):
LIKE i. DON'T i don't think any lead in this
in any in this any game will be. Safe two,
nothing three, nothing wait until the clock shows zero on both.
Sides you got two teams with two fantastic. Goalkeepers so
it's gonna be a lot of. Fun i'm hopeful as
A stars fan that now we're seeing all the top

(48:49):
talent begin to click For. Dallas of, course still you,
know still banged up a little, bit, right still some.
Injuries but you, know if they can just kind of
get healthy and if all those guys are, clicking gonna
be a very Dangerous stars. Team so but you know my,
PREDICTION i think this is going to be a seven game, series.

Speaker 1 (49:06):
Uh for those who Don't and and by the, WAY
i could see that happening in all of these, series
all of, them even The Toronto florida, one Because florida
is they're a defending champion AND i don't think they'll
go down easy on. That edmonton getting a win In,
VEGAS i thought was really big.

Speaker 3 (49:22):
For, them especially with how Good vegas is that, Team,
LIKE i do not want to See Las vegas in
the next round If I'm winnipeg or If I'm dallas.
Fan even even though, McDavid you, know You argue is
the best player in. Hockey vegas's defense is so darn.

(49:43):
Good that was a huge win For.

Speaker 1 (49:44):
Edmonton excuse, me his name is, mcjesus, mcjesus excuse me.
That and and by the, WAY i happen to Think
Austin matthews is a better player Than connor. McDavid McDavid
so far has proven to be more clutch Because toronto
hasn't had the.

Speaker 2 (49:59):
Playoff we talked about this.

Speaker 1 (50:00):
Yesterday they haven't been in A Stanley cup finals since
nineteen sixty, seven so it's been a. While maybe the
more skilled and more talented one Is matthew's and the
better overall player and clutch player might be.

Speaker 2 (50:13):
McDavid but, ANYWAY i.

Speaker 1 (50:14):
Think that'll be a really good, series and it was,
IMPORTANT i think For carolina to get a win IN
dc because they're going to have a tough time with
This capitol's, TEAM i.

Speaker 2 (50:21):
Think but they're a formidable opponent for, him so we'll.

Speaker 1 (50:24):
See by the, way for folks who don't know the
con smythe trophy goes to THE mvp of the entire,
postseason and right now most everybody says the CURRENT mvp
Is Miko rantonon of The. Stars he would, be and
Then Kyle connor For. Winnipeg connor McDavid For edmonton should

(50:47):
be considered as well As William nielander For, Toronto Logan
thompson for The, Caps Evan bouchard of The, oilers And
dryside who always seems to be around For edmonton in
on that as.

Speaker 3 (51:00):
Well All, right one quick, Note dallas has lost their
last eight game. Ones, yeah that's a weird, thing going
back to twenty. Twenty even when they're, advancing strayoffs are
dropping game. One so, hey if they find a way
to get game one on the, road then we'll know they're,
doomed Right or if they lose to, nothing it doesn't
really mean anything because they have won their had a

(51:21):
handful of.

Speaker 2 (51:22):
Series good point losing game.

Speaker 1 (51:23):
Ones all, right we'll be back to wrap up today's
edition of the. Program, Here i'm thirteen under the.

Speaker 3 (51:28):
Zone
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