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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Forget that.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
He's the godfather of yat Rock, not Greg Tepper, Michael McDonald.
There See, Tap is normally on with us on Tuesdays,
but because I was out yesterday, he's on today the
editor in chief of David Campbell's Texas Football magazine. So
I just thought it would be apropos to bring in. Uhh,
(00:26):
I guess the godfather of Dave Campbell's Texas Football magazine
would would be the late Dave Campbell himself. But now
you've become the the coppo boss, right Is that? Is
that how that works?
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Yeah, interim boss, I would say, you know, like like
it's it's it's kind of thing like you know, if
I'm playing up the string here with Dave Campbell's you know,
I mean, I'm trying to trying to get it, get
us cross the fish and gets into the playoffs. Certainly
not certainly didn't get hired for the big job out
of the gates, but rose my way through the rains.
That's probably the way to think about it.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Okay, all right, And and the reason why I select that,
so I'm going to keep forgetting is to say the
opposite of the ask, because you and I never forget
what week eleven, the final weekend, the final Friday night,
Thursday night and Friday night of the regular season is.
And we'll get to that at a moment, but I
want to start with college and in your Dave Campbell's
Texas Football power Pole, for those who haven't seen it,
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you can go to the Texas Football dot com. That's
well also where you see the great subscription offers and
everything you get for the subscription. So spots one and two,
no surprise there A and M number one, Tech number two.
Texas went up to number three because of Houston's loss.
About that, and then and then you got North Texas
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at number four, up two more spots. I got to
tell you, tep as an alum of the little school
in Denton. It's not that little a of forty five
thousand students, but anyway, is an alum of that school.
I was almost I got to say all most and
my mind was a little occupied because I was calling
basketball season opener and Charlotte between Texas and Duke last night.
But I had the college football playoff rankings up on
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my iPad. I was almost disappointed to not see the
met and Green in the top twenty five. They're not there,
but they're not that far from it either.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Are they.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
I'll tell you this, well, zoom in here on North
Texas here in a moment. But across the state of Texas,
I think there are legitimately six teams in the state
of Texas that are in play for the playoffs. I
want to be clear, they're not all getting in because
some of them would are you the Big twelve for example,
that they can only get one spot in. But I
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think there are six teams that could say, yeah, we
got a shot at the playoffs. You know, when you
take a look at Texas A and M Texas, Tech, Texas,
North Texas, ACU, who I don't think a ton of
people are talking about, and then SMU. I mean, heck,
you can even throw in Houston if you wanted to,
if you could splint and forgive them for what was
a pretty disappointing lost. But this is in my mind,
a really really year across the board. Now we take
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a look specifically in North Texas. That win over Navy
was really impressive because in a lot of ways that
Navy is one of those teams that they dictate the
terms of engagement tomorrow prays. They dictate the way the
game tends to go, and it is up to you
as an opponent to wrestle either beat them at that
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game or to wrestle that control away from him. And
this is a game that's played fundamentally at North Texas's pace.
I mean, this is a game that they went out
there and they established themselves as the as the dominant
team in this game and really kind of never looked back.
I mean, thirty one, you know, thirty one seventeen is impressive,
and certainly Navy was able to get theirs. But I
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think we take a look at what North Texas did
against Davy. I think Eric Morson's right. I think he
said it was the most complete performance they've hapen in
the year. I think he's exactly right. That's a very
strong defensive performance, which hasn't always been the case. And
the offense, while the numbers are not going to jump
out at you for especially for an offense that we've
become spoiled about hanging you know, half a hundred on
every team, that's an impressive performance out there, and it
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sets them up really beautifully for a final flurry here
at the end. Of the at the end of the year,
in my opinion, a pretty manageable finish to the season
that has been thinking really really big of them.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Yeah, I guess that's that's the thing, isn't it is?
Obviously in their case, they they've got to run the
table and and I think I think if, if, if
they run the table, they'll be in the American Conference
Championship on tiebreakers loan if it works out that way.
So they've just got to handle their business or off
this week. But they've got at UAB at Rice and
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the Temple at home, and so they would probably probably
be in there. Okay, let me ask you about the
team at the top of your rankings.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Here's Texas A and M.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
The Aggies rate in oh barring a loss to.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Samford and and and then either to South Carolina.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Or you're Alma Mater Missouri. Are they already in.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
The playoff regardless of what they do down here in
Austin on Thanksgiving weekend.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Yes, I think they're in. I think right now. It
would take a pretty catastrophic uh you know, uh, you
know fall from grace for North Texas to or for
A and M to miss the playoff. Simply because if
you look at their body of work right now, they
have two very strong road wins, a win over Notre
Dame and a win over LSU. Now the Notre Dame.
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Notre Dame is doing them a lot of favors right
now bye bye. By being as good as they have
been in rebounding as strongly as they have rebounded, that
is really booting them. Who knows how the LSU, you know,
win holds up now that you know they're they're going
to be without their head coach. That is gonna that
remains to be seen. But I think you're exactly right. Essentially,
barring a loss to Sanford, Uh, they were there there
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in now. Look, I think that if you are Mike Elko,
you're saying, let's go out there and let's make this
no doubt, let's lead no doubt. And certainly if they
were to finish let's even say three and one down
the stretch, and they were to lose that game on
the forty acres, then I think that even then they
would they would lay claim to being in the in
the playoff. I think that, especially because of the strength
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of the SEC and when we saw the playoffs. Of course,
you saw the playoffs of the rankings last night. Obviously,
the committee, through no surprise, thinks very very highly of
the SEC. I think that it would take something really,
really catastrophic for A and M to miss the playoff
at this point, I think they've probably already done enough
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to be in that field at twelve.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
I think far more fascinating scenario is what's going on
in the Big twelve, as you started to allude to,
starting with the fact that the number two team in
the FPS power polls Texas Tech. Here they are eight
and one and the Red Raiders have three games remaining,
and you know, West Virginia can be a little bit
of a minefield, and they proved that they could be
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tough when they stunned Houston Day, but it's been a
down year for the Mountaineers. You would think Tech could
handle its business in Morgantown. You cef on their senior Day.
You know they're going to handle their business. The game
of the game's afoot and that's this week with College
Game Day there and BYU, that's the fascinating one to me.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Yeah, So to me, this is this is the season
right here for Texas Tech. If you win this game. Uh,
you have an extremely clear path to the Big twelve
Championship game. Uh, extremely clear. Uh. If you lose this game,
then it kind of all goes to not and people
are going to start start starts scratching their heads. This
is where that lost Arizona State really comes back to
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bite them, because if you if you were undefeated come
to the games, you are nine and zero going to
this game, and you were to lose a close one
the same way you didn't get Arizona State, lose something
like that, I think you're still in the race. I
think you've still got an opportunity because because hey, you
know what, the YU of good team and you're and
you're still in place for the Big twelve championship game,
maybe even a remounch against the YU. Right, but by
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losing that game to Arizona State, you have lost your buffer,
You have lost your ability to lose a game. You
lost that game that you needed to have. They're not
putting a two lost Big twelve team in the College
Football Playoff in my opinion, at least, you know, certainly
not two regular season losses. And so if you're taxed
at Tech, it kind of all comes down to that
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now you still, of course you mentioned you still got
to take care of business against let's call them feisty
uc up in West virgin Needs teams. But if you
win this week, you do feel like it's within sight
for everything that they've they've built up for out there
in Lobock, and it's got to be exactly what you want, right.
You got him at home, big crowd rabbit out there
in lubb It's the biggest home game in quite some time.
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This feels like a real kind of proven moment here
for the Red Raiders, and I don't think if they
were to win this game out I think there would
be any doubt that they belong in that conversation.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
For the playoffs, I'm talking football here with Greg Chepper,
the editor in chief of Dave Campbell's Texas Football Magazine,
that the Big twelve standings themselves are are kind of
spooky because you brought it up. How you know, Texas
Tech certainly controls its own fate, But you mentioned TCU
there on the periphery of three and two, you got
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Arizona State four and two. You take fourn to Houston
Ford two. Cincinnati coming off that loss of Utah is
five and one of course, b yu's unbeaten. So while
Texas Tech might control its own path as well as BYU,
beyond that, it's a mess of either. Whichever one of
those teams loses is going to find itself in a
fight depending on tiebreakers and how the rest of those
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other schools contend down the stretch, and that includes TCU
being in the mix.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Earlier, you called me a coppo, you know for this,
allow me to use a mafia phrase. We can do
this the easy way, or we can do this the
hard way, because the easy way is that, you know,
Texa Tech wins this, wins this game, BYU finishes out
and then and then suddenly, you know there's going to
be tybreaker situation between let's just say, you know, b YU,
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by the way, plays Cincinnati down the road. So let's
say Cincinnati keeps winning, they'll sort that out. They can
certainly rise to the occasion, right Or if you're a
BYU and you say, hey, we say, above the fray,
we win this game against Texas Tech, Suddenly you know
every other team kind of has to fall back to us,
and we've got an opportunity. We can do this the
easy way there is also a way where this thing
goes caddywompus in a hurry, and suddenly you've got multiple
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teams with you know, with stuff there at one loss there,
maybe even if it's fall down to two losses in
conference play. This to me is a really a really
fascinating breakdown just because of a couple of results here
and there. We get this in the high school ranks.
Of like, there are some districts where everything goes apart
and the number one team are the number one team
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in the district beats everyone else, the second best team
beats everyone except the number one team, et cetera. And
then there's other districts where it just goes crazy and
you got to get out the advocates for the district
tibreaker and stuff like that. The Big twelve is certainly
playing in many ways like a Texas high SCHOOLOTBA district potentially.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Such perfect timing as we visit with Greg Tepper from
Dave Campbell's Texas Football Magazine, because we're going to go
to the high school ranks now, I like the piece
that Matt Stepp did about the win or go home
Week eleven games. You know, we always talk about this,
you know, unwrapping the playoff package and all that other
kind of stuff. The fun of this, and it's it's
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high tension, no doubt for these teams that if they win,
they get in. If they don't win, they ain't getting in.
And there's a lot of that across the stadium.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Yeah, to me, this is the for you got to
think of it like this. The playoffs started this week
for a number of teams. In fact, the playoffs started
last week for a couple of teams. Now that's not
as clean as this one here in Week eleven, where
we've got one t two games across the state of
Texas and the let ui E ELEVENMN rings that are
as simple as a gainst. The winner is going to
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the playoffs. They have a date next week with the
opponents to be determined, and the loser that game is
blown up Basketball's on Monday. It is a different kind
of set of urgency here. And yeah, I think that
it also gives us an opportunity to kind of take
our eye off the ball a little bit and focus
on some games that otherwise maybe would fly under your radar,
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right like, like I'll give you an example. Of course,
you know, Gleena Park, north Shore and Summer Creek play
this week. That's fantastic game. I'm excited about that. And
yet Bert Burnett and Mineral Wells are playing this week,
and they have much higher stakes, much higher tension in
that game than whether or not Northshore wins an outright
district championship where they have to share it. Right. That's
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the kind of thing that I think is most fun
here is that you've got all of these vary different
set of urgencies colliding here. And certainly there are some
teams that are playing games that winning a distort championship matters.
Liberty Hill and Bastard play this week in a really
really big game for district championship that matters for seeding reasons.
But even you know, both those teams know they're in
the playoffs. You know, teams like let's see teams like Price,
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Carlisle and Current, they don't know if there's a tomorrow,
they don't know if if they're playing. They got practice
on Monday, And that I think makes this a really
fun time of year, and especially a really fun week
of the season.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Okay, so before I give you the games that you
have to choose one and before we even get to that,
you mentioned some of the games as well, so it
sounds like you're kind of like me. You're more fascinated
by the who gets in, who doesn't get in, the
coin flip, the point differential, the mess that could happen
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in twenty five six A which is still out there,
not completely resolved yet. It's got a little more clarity
but not complete clarity on that. It sounds like you're
more tuned into those than say, obviously, like you said,
two teams that are playing for a district a north
Shore thing against some are Creek.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
Yeah, I think that those those games, district title games
and seeding games. You know, the thing is that we
get another opportunity. Look at that like the fall of
there is a lot shorter than it is for El
Paso East Lake and El Paso Cornado. That to me
is and that's what makes this week so singular, is
that next week it's level playing field for everybody playing
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and simple. Everyone understands the assignment. I don't have to
remember a single district tiebreaker after Saturday night, like I can.
I can. I can let them escape my brain forever
because we're drawing up in the district in February. It's
something that I can just offload of my brain. Uh.
This week though, is so singular in that result as
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a result, that's what makes this so much fun. And
to me, why you're going to be paying attention, you
know to Como Pixton and Rivercrest or Perryton and Border
in matchups there as opposed to you know, the big
highly ranked games and teams that are there playing, you know,
for a district championship. That to me is fun. But
because the states are a little bit lower, uh, it
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makes those other games kind of rise. In the case
next week, all that kind of gets flattened out. And
we understand the assignment. You win, you get to play
another week till you lose. It's over.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
I'll give you another one.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
How about Lanier and Burbank there, because there could be
a win and in situation for Burbank lose out, Lanier
could get thrust into a muddy, muddy mess. All of
this behind Sam Houston, which is going to be the
is the district champion. They've already clinched it. But that's
that's another mess. And Landier's a pretty good story this year.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
Yeah, Lanier has been a fantastic story. That's a team
we had a really high host for coming into the season,
and they've put together. The Volks have put together the season.
It's not long ago they were searching for their first
playoff win in or playoff appearance in some number of years.
But the Volks have put together a really nice season.
And you're right, you know, there's there's really high stakes
here as far as you know, both those teams are
going to be in the playoffs, but they've got to
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be able to settle things on the field and an
opportunity to grab, you know, a higher seed. And that's
one of the things that in my opinion. You know,
you talk about avoiding the district's eleven to five A
division Division two and so look, you've finished fourth in
that district. You're playing the winner of Bastrip and Liberty Hill,
like you don't want that playing and simple and so uh,
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make make no mistakes. Every coach in the Stafe is
keenly aware of all of the implications. In fact, we
do have a situation. Oh I wish I could find it.
Let me see, I can do it real quickly. We
do have a situation where there is a team that
if they are winning, winning by a certain amount, it
may be better for them to give up a touchdown.
It's it's very very interesting. Let me see if I can
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find a couple. Yeah, it happened a couple of years ago.
It's kind of kind of legendary that their received. So
it's Wharton. Wharton plays swinging. Okay, if they are if
they are down by nine, then they would be uh.
Then they may intentionally allow a score simply because if
you take a look at the way that things break
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out in District ten four A Division two, they could
actually benefit by losing by more they knock another team
out in the playoffs. It's wild and crazy, and every
coach in the state has every staff in the state
has one coach who understands deeply the tie break. Grand
will be standing right next to the head coach, understanding
everything that goes on. It's a wild, pretty singular week
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in Texas high school football.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
I view it as like the high school version of
the collegiate head coaches. There. They have one guy who
knows everything about the portal and everything that's going on
with nil about this is this needs to happen that
I'll give you another one.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
You mentioned tien four a D two.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
How about ten four a D one where you have
a four way tie for first and any number of
sixteen combinations could happen with Bridge City, Huffman, Hargrave, Lumberdon,
and Little Cyprus Mauriceville, and they should all be good
games because Bridge City plays Huffman hard Grave and LCM
plays Lumberdon.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
It could be a lot of fun.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
That's what's great is that you are looking within because
of that. The good thing for all four of those
teams that they know they're in, like they don't have
to worry about dropping out of the playoffs. What you
get teams that can drop as far drop as far
as fourth. You know one of these teams is going
to do that. Because you're gonna have these teams Human
Hardgrave playing Bridge City and Lumbers and playing Little Ciprus Friestyl. Well,
they're all already beat up on each other. And so
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the other thing that you're gonna have is you're gonna
have a coach up in the booth who's gonna have
his his iPad out and he's gonna be He's gonna
be on the day of Campbell's app refreshing the score
of that other game because they need not just to win,
but have the other correct team to win. Like we're
gonna pick the lock here and figure out exactly what
the combination is and make no mistakes, there are massive
implications in this one because if you finish in fourth
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place in this district, you're playing Kilgore in the first round.
And by the way, if you finish a third place,
you're playing Lyndale, which is no uh, you know, no
real picnic. So there's huge implications in this one. That's
every coaching staff in the in the state, I'm sure
has a clipboard or some sort of thing that they
are keeping track of everything so that they know how
can we best set ourselves up for the bracket reveal
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coming up Saturday.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
I got to ask you, is I asked you about
it several weeks. Did you ever think we'd live in
a world where Aquilla plays Abbot and Aquilla is a
twenty nine point pick of the computer to beat the
Abbit in this day?
Speaker 3 (19:10):
And I'll tell you what that to me says it's
a relatively down year for Abbot. They're very very young
down there, big rivalry game and sent six man football,
But I think he also says a lot about Aquilla.
Aquilla has been on the come up for quite some time.
T c Hennig, who was probably the freshman of the
Year last year, is now the sophomore of the year
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and six man football. He's mister, do everything for Aquilla.
You're right, It's remarkable from like a historical perspective, because
Abbott is for people who know six mavable. Abbot has
just had a Quilla's number. Even when a Quill has
been good, Abbot's kind of been better. This is this
is where and where the shoe is certainly on the
other foot, and a Quilla is a clear favorite. It
is it is u you know Massssaria, as they would.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Say, all right, the meanest thing we do to each
other each week, I give you three games.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
You pick one.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
I'm going completely different this week. This will be different
than the three or at least probably two of the three,
at the very least three games that you will present
to me tomorrow, because this, my friend, since we're in
a hotbed of it down here with lots of stuff
on the line. All three games will be in the
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Greater Austin, Central Texas ere All three so in other words,
you're coming down here, You're having Franklin's Barbecue. You're going
to want in a million for breakfast tacos, you're gonna
do You're gonna do that, and you're gonna and then
you're gonna settle in at one of these three games.
And by the way, none of the three or Westlake
Dripping Springs none.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Okay, okay, I thought I thought I might.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Westlake Drip, by the way, is for the top seed
in the D two bracket, so there is a lot
riding on the line on that.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
But all right, here you go.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
You've got Georgetown and Cedar Park with a district title
on the line. You got Liberty Hill and bass Drop
as you mentioned, of course, voice of the bass Drop
Bears is none other than Jay Carmon.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
The producer of this bar.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
And you've got Tomorrow Night Anderson and Weiss with a
stunningly unbeaten Anderson. By the way, this is something you
and I always nerd about, geek about what's the first
by district playoff peering You've already heard, got it, Anderson Friends,
Wooded House Park A week from Saturday at three o'clock.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
It's booked.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
So yeah, yeah, those are starting to come down. I'm
starting to get those text messages of saying, hey, by
the way, we've got our we can't we're not announce
in it yet, but but here you go. Okay, Uh,
Anderson and Weiss is Andson and Wiss is fascinating. But
because things are locked in, Uh, the only thing here
really is Ken Anderson Polish office first ever undefeated regular season,
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which would be such an enormous an enormous accomplishment there
for the Trojans, Senor Parkinshel and Georgetown is really intriguing
as well. You know they're in District eight five A
Division one. I think that that's a fascinating ball game. Honestly,
what what jee Walker has in that game, that's the
game We're gonna be streaming on the day of Campbell's YouTube.
After doing watch that, I am going to go, oh
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with Bastard and Liberty Hill. I love this game because
this to me, you know, Liberty Hill with the team
we kind of I think statewide maybe forgot about because
they started oh and two and we're like, oh, well, okay,
it's down here for Liberty Hill, Well, all it's done
is rattle off seven straight the Slot Sea Humming, Dylan
Balinga and Preston Benfield, and I think that that defense,
which was much in the line of the earlier of
the season, has gotten better and better. Well, here's your
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final exam, because you were taking on the number one
scoring offense in all of five A Division two with
Weston Nielsen and Gary Jefferson Junior, and that Bastrip attack
sixty three points per game. They are exceptionable. So this
to me is a real referendum on both defenses. Can't
Bastrip diagnose and slow down the Slot Sea? And how
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far has Liberty Hill come? Fascinating ballgame for a district
championship and by the way, Bastrom seeking their first undefeated
regular season since nineteen ninety one, So along on the
line there for the Bears, aside from a district championship,
I would be at the Panther Stadium in Liberty Hill.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Yeah, Jake's pretty prought up about to bashtrop are you
don Yeah?
Speaker 3 (23:02):
You want to?
Speaker 1 (23:02):
You want to come on in? We got room for
you in the booth.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
Listen, I'm let me let me talk to my wife.
I think it's actually my first Friday night of the
year off and so because we moved our show SAT
to Saturday, we're doing our big bracket reveal at ten
thirty pm. And I think I might have promised for
a date. And so as much as I like you, Jake,
I think I like my life.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Yeah, yeah, probably need to do that. I leave you
with this.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
Out of that eight five a d one like you said,
you know, Georgetown Cedar Park, uh will will play for
a top seed.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Uh. Then the other two playoff teams. He's going to
be one of them.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Now, Raws, who won that hard faught game with Lake
Melton's in the driver's seat as long as they handle
their business against fellow North Side of Leander SD opponent
Glenn Rawse will win that hard faught game to earn
the right to play Highland Park.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
And by district, that's park Can That's.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
If Hyland Park handles Biglow at the end of they
probab probably will.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
But yeah, that's that's that's a huge, huge game. Because
here's the thing is that you know, you want to
talk about like ripple effects, like little things that we
try to flag you on whenever they happen. Go back
two years ago to realignment, and this district is put
in red District eight instead of District nine. It's a
small thing. It's oh, there's just Act eight five a
division years. They go, okay, it's interesting, we have to
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change the number. Well yeah, but also because it's in
Region two, that means that you're playing all your playoff
games against the DMW teams. Uh so uh that is
that is chickens coming home to roost for realignment decisions
way back two years ago. And so yeah, Island and
by the way, they would have to go almost certainly
two Highland parks play its to play at Highland or
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Stadium where they are notoriously unfriendlined of strangers. That will
be a really, really fun matchup. If Ralphs can can
get past their Glenn and make no mistake, Glenn would
love Glenn's not playing for much. Boy, Glenn could feel
like things of the world if they can knock out
Rouse the.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Playoffs, no doubt about it.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
This is one thing we always look forward to the
final week of the regular season. He's Greg Tepper, editor
in chief of Dave Campbell's Texas football magazine Chap. Next
week we'll preview. We'll actually have brackets. Isn't that a
cool deal.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
I'm looking forward to my friends, all right.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
Thanks. All right.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
That's Greg Tepper and he joins us each week, normally
on Tuesdays, in this case on Wednesday.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
We have more coming up. We'll continue on thirteen under
the zone