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Speaker 1 (00:00):
On a Texan Tuesday using the three o'clock hour bump
back with the iconic will and Nelson, And that is
Willy's voice on there, along with Waylon Jennings, another native Texan,
the Mamas don't let your Baby score out to be Cowboys.
Greg Tepper, the editor in chief of Dave Campbell's Texas
Football Magazine, not only is the native Texan, he's a
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former cowboy.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
He's a former Coppel cowboy.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
As he joins us on the line, is he just
slid you right in there with legends like whal and Willie.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
That's why they pay you the big bucks man. But nobody,
I'll be honest, anybody who's ever met me that like
who was was kind of seeing where you were going.
They were like, certainly he's not going to think that
this city slicker is some sort of some sort of
roughneck out there. No, No, it's merely merely a mascot,
merely a team of the football team that I that
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I was a part of briefly. So yes, that's I am.
I am a cowboy, but but certainly not in the
ways that that are going to be recognizable around these parts.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
But you were if undersized you were an offensive lineman
at Coppell, Were you not?
Speaker 3 (01:08):
I was? I was an undersized yeah, undersized, uh and
under talented offensive lineman. I was. I was the world's
best backup guard, is what my mom would tell people.
So so yeah, I was an injurier linment too. I mean,
you want to talk about dirty work you're doing. You're
doing the thankless job those those Prima Donnas out of
the tackle spots. That's you know, That's not me. No,
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I'm in there grinding away on on free texts.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
So you were you? You were not a hog Molly.
You were just a molly. Is that what you're saying?
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Yeah? I was, uh, yeah, I was, you know, maybe
a piglet Molly, something like that, something along those lines,
much much much smaller. Not I'm not gonna fetch anything
at auction, I'll say that much.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
I'm going to tell you this, i'man I'm gonna put
you in the category of most famous guys who were
offensive linemen in high school and realized that that was
not their future and went on to become much bigger
and better.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
The two guys that come to mind are.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
You and Phil Dawson from Lake Islands who had a
much more storied career as a placekicker than it is
a one hundred and seventy five pounds offensive lineman for
the Lake Islands Wildcats.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Yeah. Yeah, but I will say that that for Phil Dawson,
I would say that, you know, we obviously both went
into the football world, just continued to use as athleticism.
I just said, hey, you know what, it seems like
these writers can get into football games for free. That
seems like fun and the rest, as they say, is history.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
No doubt about. Okay.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
So, since we're on the subject of writing about this
on your outstanding website at Dave Candell's Texas Football, go
to Texas Football dot com. You're going to read this stuff.
You're going to subscribe and get all the great stuff.
I was interested to see what your Texas FBS Power
poll was after.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
The results of the weekend.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
I and I've looked over the rankings there and it
gave me an idea to ask you which of these
Texas schools had the most impressive performance of the weekend.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Would it have been.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Could it have been Texas State scoring twenty eight of
the first thirty one points in the second half, to
pull away from Eastern Michigan. Could it have been the
Rice Owls who won in Lafayete, Louisiana despite not scoring
in three or four quarters, they did still win the game.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Was it either of those two?
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Could it have been TCU, which just made Built Belichick's
debut look pretty smelly. Or if we were to venture
outside of the FBS ranks, I would submit to you
Charleton States win in double overtime at Army FCS beating
FBS by the way, which moved them from number ten
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and number five in the FCS national pole switch route.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Would you go on this?
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Yeah, yeah, I think that. You know, when you take
a look at what Tarleton did there at Mighty Stadium
up there in New York, that is really impressive. And
I know that, like the the Service academies, they did
really vary wildly from year to year. It's not long
ago that Army was a chic pick to that people
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were saying they got to put them in the College
Football Playoffs. Yeah, they they've fallen off, But but if
you're Tarleton, you don't apologize for a SBS road win
that is that is wildly, wildly impressive for Todd wins bunch,
and I think that this is a real springboard for
them going into you know, an SCS section where now,
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by the way, there are now four teams ranked in
in Texas in there as far as Charleton State, they're
you mentioned, they're up to I believe, tied for number
three in the in the coaches poll. They have looked
every both the part Avelene Christian's still hanging in there. Uh,
this is a Stephen F. Austin is ranked as well.
This is a really good year for s Yes, and
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this is quite a way to kick things off. The
other answer, I think, of course, would be the CU
and what they did last night and and after a
rocky I would say, kind of tepid start to the
to their game, they hit the Jets and you saw
Josh Hoover put on a virtue of so performance. You
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saw Kavorian Barns, the u c SA tranter, the former
Santa Augustine Wolfe who was pretty much unstoppable. Uh. There's
gonna be a lot of talk about what's wrong with
Bill Belichick's team at North Carolina, because obviously he's a
big name. But I think that the conversation should be
what's right with TCU, because I'll tell you that that
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you take a look at this roster construction. I read
somebody say this last night or heard somebody say this
last night. As far as the roster construction is concerned,
it does trying to feel like the talent on campus
is back up to that level it was in twenty
twenty two when they played for a college football playoff
national champish And now I'm not predicting they're going to
make the college football playoffs, but I will say that
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I thought you saw a TCU program that is dead
set on proving that the last couple of years are
much farther from their standard than the ones that you
saw the previous one there in twenty twenty two when
they were one of the final two teams in the country.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Yeah, could you say that in a similar light about
Baylor as they try to climb their way back. They
were competitive against Auburn, but too many mistakes and they
wound up and also allowed three hundred and seven rushing yards,
which is what Auburn's mo is to try to choose
to grind.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
It out on you.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
That I think is the real red flag for me
for them because you think about this, this Baylor team,
and we know that their offense was a little bit
banged up. They're now down basically the running back we have.
The price of Washington went out. Dulphin Pendergrad I believe
is already out, so they're down to running back three.
But to me, there's there's not an excuse to give
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up three hundred yards of the ground. I mean, you
know that's what they want to do. And if you're
Dave A Randa, you know you are. You were hired
because you are a defensive mastermind. You're hired because you're
a defensive star. And to give up that amount to
the to the an Auburn offense that you know, by
all accounts is not going to be necessarily punching in
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the same weight classes a lot of their sec of counterparts.
I think that for Baylor this this is a bit
of a red slack. Offensively, I think they'll get healthy.
They made the mistakes offensively, I think they can clean
that up. But I think that the more lasting problem
may be on the defensive side, if they're not able
to figure things out in that front seven, because otherwise
the Big twelve will absolutely push you around. There's a
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number of teams there in the Big twelve that are
going to have the kind of running backs, running game
that can do it, most notably the team we saw
last night in CeCu. You don't take the TCU look
at their jobs at that after what they did in
North Carolina, they always got to figure out what they're
going to do with their run defensive I think in
a hurry.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Yeah, and then and then also, and this is an
interesting diconomy, isn't it. Their next opponent is another powerful opponent,
but not from the Big Tields. They play SMU, and
they were what would you say, a little less than
impressive and beating East Texas A and M. He turned
it over three times as well. But it's kind of
a get well week for either one whichever team wins.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Yeah. I think for SMU basically they were they were
I don't want to say they were lucky they were
playing East Texas A and M. But they play a
relatively sloppy game I would say by htt lashley standers,
and it didn't cost them playing simple because they like
they were playing a team that that they were just
a lot better than. They got a great game from
from Kevin Jennings, but they were not able to run
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the ball all that well, and and you know they
were just kind of slopping here and there, you know,
Kevin Jennings through an interception. Uh, they fumbled ball three twice.
I don't know, they missed a number of tackles. They
gave up two hundred and forty four yards passing. I
don't know. I think for for US, you know, I
think there's a reason that you kind of ease into
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the East into the schedule like you do, like like
they did with East Texas A and M. It's kind
of in the same way that like Texas Tech did
right when they absolutely molly wopped you know, Arkansas Pine Bluff.
That to me gives you an opportunity to work out
some of the kinks in a low station environment, as
opposed to if you're Baylor and you come out flat
against Auburn, well, Auburn can beat you. You know, that
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I think is what you ended up seeing and why
I think I think SMU probably got away with one
that they probably didn't play as well as they thought
they were going to. They got away with it because
they're just a lot better than East Texas A and M.
They will need to be better this week if they're
going to move to and.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Now, okay, since you were talking about issues with run
defense like Baylor, that brings us to Texas A and M,
who looked really sparkling on offense, Marcel Reed.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Looked really good. But uh what defense? Let the little
something to be desired?
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Yeah, I would give A and M, you know, overall
a B minus on their opening Uh on their opening week. Look,
you don't apologize for wins, and you won forty two
twenty four. However, you know, look, this is the team
that they gave up six yards to carry. I mean,
Robert Henry went nuts on them, you know, and it
had had a great game. They were able to really
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I think if you are an A and M fan,
what you're decided about on the defensive side, if you
were able to get a pressure on McCown, you were
able to make him a little bit uncomfortable in the backfield,
make him run around a little bit. And but then
you know, from a running back, running game perspective, you know,
there were there were some problems they got. They got
to clean that up because again, SEC they're gonna we
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know what they're gonna want to do now. I do
think that if you are you know, we've said the
entire offsea, we got to be make sure we're very
honest about this that you know, a lot of this
season is going to come down to Marcel Reed. If
that kind of marcelf READI get, and it's gonna be
just fun. You know, fantastic, fantastic opener. You know, two
or eighty nine yards, four touchdowns passing the receiver core
on the new look receiver corps looked really, really strong.
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They didn't need a ton from l'von moss. You know,
he only carried the ball three times. This is to
me offensively pretty pretty sparkling. I would say, pretty darn good.
But I would say you're right that the front seven there,
which I think we had some concerns about the linebacker
corps basically outside of Tory and New York, they kind
of came to bear and the opener they will need
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to they'll need to get right before they get into
the heart of SEC play. They should be favored this
week into Utah State though, although Notre Dame's coming to town.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
But before I get to high school, I should point
out that in the Dave Campbell's Texas Football Magazine FPS
Power poll, Texas is still number one even with the
one record. So I take it you and Mike Craven
and the staff are not among those with a pitch
works and flaming torches and stuff at the doors, at
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least metaphorically speaking of either Arch Manning and or Steve
Sarkisian this week, allow.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
Me to speak as somebody from outside the Austin kind
of area, and just like, look at it outside. Y'all
know Ohio State's trying to win that game too, right,
Like you know, that's a pretty good team. They went
out there and they played well. I think that at Texas.
Look was Arch banning everything that everybody went into be
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right out of the shoot? No. Do I have concerns
about the offensive line? Yeah? Do I have concerns about
the receiver corps? Yeah? I think so. I think there
were some times where the Ohio State defensive back were
running the routes for Texas. Receivers don't need to get right. Well,
look what we said from the from the get go.
Unless you go out there and you get blasted into
the sun, everything that Texas wants to do is still
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right there in front of them. They're still in the
driver's seat to grab a college for playoff spot. They are,
you know, a one score loss on the road at
what is now the number one team in the nation.
I don't think that that doesn't just qualify them from
every for anything. Now, they got to get right and
they got to figure things out offensively, and I think
I think that there's going to be an ononus on
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Steve starkeysing to be a little bit more creative, because
it kind of did look like Ryan Day and Matt
Patricia had the Texas game plan in their back pocket
for them. But I think that if you're Texas, it's
going to be easy to overreact to one week. And
I love doing it too. But but Top the Break
is a very good Ohio State team. You'd rather be
want to know thenero one. But but the way that
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it went, I don't think necessarily needs to spark any
sort of panic for the long runch.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Visiting with Greg Tepper, editor in chief Tape Campbe's Texas
Football magazine artist jump to high school fill in the blank.
For me, the most mind blowing result from Week one
of the Texas high school football season was.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
Who a couple. Okay, my hips, your answer is going
to be Fort or Diamond Hill Jarvis beating Fort Orick
South Hills, because, for those who don't know, Diamond Hill
Jarvis snapped a forty six game losing streak. They had
not won a game since twenty nineteen, and first year
coach Irwin Garcia is now one to oh and maybe
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the first one and OH coach in Diamond Hill Jarvis' history.
So that that certainly caught my eye. But there were
a couple of them, and I think that it's kind
of unfortunately it's going to end up talking saying some
quite a while. One of them is what happened on Saturday.
They might have flown under the radar for people who
are watching college football, but Dickinson pretty much stuffed Kadie
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in a locker at Legacy Stadium, and I think that
this might be Dickinson's best team in years. But for Katie,
that is an inauspicious start to the season. I think
that's one thing that caught my eye. Stouth Folk Clips
beating Glena Park North Shore and really kind of controlling
that game from the word go is really impressive. South
Oak Cliff a team that we have high hosts for
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but again it's a five A Division two playing a
six eight and not just six A six A Division one.
Northshore has I think four times the enrollment that South
Oakcliffe does, And yeah, South Oaklofe went out there and
really really bury them. That was one of them. And
then there's one other that I would say closer to home.
I would say, when you take a look at what
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prosperd is Austin west Lake wildly, wildly impressive from the Eagles.
That was highly, highly impressed what they were able to
do controlling the line of scrimmage. We knew they were
going to be very good up front, one of the
best offensive lines in Texas. They looked very very good
in their win over Westlake. Not time to hit the
panic button for Westlake, but I think for prosper they've
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got to be bremingle confidence.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
If I were to ask you which group of results
surprises you more, the KD loss to Dickinson and Northshore
loss to South oak Cliff or that's Greater Houston or
west Like losing to prosper and Vandergrift getting thumbed by
dripping springs. Which group which market Center's losses surprised you more.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
Yeah, it might be the Austin area. You know, you
mentioned west Lake obviously high expectations, but you know this
is you know, for Westlake, they they want to go
out there and start I believe you know, this is
the first time in quite a while that that west
Lake starts on one. And then for Vandergrift, you know,
look now that that match to Drifting Spring is always
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to kind of give them trouble. And yet I would
also take a look at the way that it went.
That to me is is what is impressive to me
about what Dripping Springs did that they you mentioned it,
they kind of stumped them. I mean it was wildly impressed.
Forty one to fourteen, and specifically they were able to
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do essentially anything they wanted defensively. I mean they held
milef to decky under two hundred yards. They you know,
I mean Rip ran for something like forty three yards
in the entire game. And yet you also saw new
quarterback Chase Thames step up in a big way for
Dripping Springs. I think for Drip, that is a really
impressive opener and an opening salvo there to take down
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the defending state champs a chance they play each other
again in the playoffs. But for now, for Driff, they
are feeling it because that was a really impressive victory.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
On Friday night. One more thing I want to ask
you about.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
We had somebody on the text on asked this question
and they wanted to know what your impressions were of
how things were going in longview. Now, they won handily
overlooked and the other night, but we know about John
King's medical commission and having a step away for cancer
treatments as well. They have Marshall this week and then
I've got them the next week against South Oak cliff
On the victory plus game.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Which ought to be a Donnybrook.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
But what is your impression from what you know and
what from Matt step knows and visiting with the King
family and the program right now?
Speaker 3 (18:00):
Yeah, you know, obviously, you know, coach John King is
not just you know, a football coach. He's really just
kind of a figure in that community in a big way.
And so anytime you're able to lose, any time, anytime
you lose a guy like that, you obviously, you know
feel like, what is one of the things going to go?
I thought what you saw on Friday Night was really
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emblematic of that Longview style because Luskin jumped out to
an early lead. I want to say, Lukin m'd have
been up, you know, two scores early in that game,
and then Longview roared back and they did it in
such Longview fashion where they ran for four hundred and
ninety four yards in the game. Johnny Hamilton, their quarterback,
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had a great game as well. But you saw I
think that Lovo toughness and that Lovo resolve and essentially,
you know, the coaching staff pulling these guys together and saying, guys,
let's go out there and be a Longview. That's the
best thing we can do. It shued up. It showed
up in a big way, you know, averaging nearly seven
yards carry in their win. Over overlooking that to me
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is going to serve them. This is where to we
talk about a guy who's larger than the life there
in John King in his absence. What you need is
a culture, and the good thing for Longview is that
there are very few programs in Texas that banks in
large parts coach King and its coaching staff. There are
very few programs in Texas that have the kind of
culture to lean on that the logos will be able
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to do for however long, that he is unable to
be out there on the sideline for as much as
you want. So I thought that that was a real
statement there for long View to say, hey, yeah, you
know where without the guy you're you've seen on the sideline.
But at the same time things going to We're still
long to you, And I think that was a real
message they sent, was that we are still long to you.
You're still going to have to basically find a way
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to stop us running it down your.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Throat is great temper Editor in chief David Campbell's Texas
Football Magazine. As a course, starting that brand news sh
oh with Ashley Pickle Dave Campbell's Texas Football Tonight. Are
you are you two calling it the after party? Or
is that just labeling you've got on your website?
Speaker 3 (20:10):
You know, it's it's kind of nick nick, you know,
it's not like the Craig The Craig Way Show. Is
the is the pre party, you know what I mean?
Right right? And we're the after party, you know what
I mean? So that's it' that's Football Tonight. But but yeah,
it's just come and party with us kick kick your
feet up and come hang with us.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Tug a little ball first show go really well.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
Yeah, I had a great time. Got some scores in
and and and things flying around. Uh. It's hectic around
the state of Texas. Uh, but but we're we're really
excited about about what we got going.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
All right, And you can catch it there uh at
Texas Football dot Com all the the tails and you
can extreme it for free as well. Hey, I appreciate it,
have a good week, and we'll visit again.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
All right.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
That's Greig Tepper. He is the editor in chief Dave
Campbells Texas Football Magazine. Yeah, he and Ashley Pickle do that.
For those of you who've asked me and asked Greg
and ask Pickle and ask a lot of people.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
What about the show they all were doing on FanDuel.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
As we mentioned a couple of times, it doesn't exist
anymore because fan Duel or the parent company that runs it,
got out of the business of wanting to do high
school sports. So that show was twenty eight years and
I did twenty five of it and really enjoyed it.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
But that show is no longer in existence.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
So I'm doing a game of the week on the
Victory Plus Sports app and which will Evandergrid Sea to
Park this week. And that's for free, and that's streaming
there wherever you stream it through your Roku or Apple TV,
however you get your televised product stream to you. And
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they Tepper and Pickle do Dave Campbell's Texas Football tonight,
so they have a wrap up show that starts at
ten thirty. All right, coming up, we'll update that ap
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