July 23, 2025 • 24 mins
Craig Way is joined by Greg Tepper, editor-in-chief of Dave Campbell’s Texas Football, to kick off a brand-new season of Talking Football. Tepper shares behind-the-scenes insight on putting together the 400-page magazine, what it means to carry on Dave Campbell’s legacy, and why high school coaches are already blowing up his phone. 🏈 They break down the preseason Class 6A rankings — from powerhouses like Southlake Carroll and Duncanville to dark horses like Harker Heights and Cy-Fair. Plus: What’s new in the magazine, what had to go (RIP to the Cowboys and Texans preview), and whether that long-rumored Texas Football merch is finally on the way. 💬 Listen in for a chance to win your own copy of the 2024 magazine — free, if you're fast! 📍 Only on 1300 The Zone.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The reason for playing the Lindsay Buckingham tune there. I
don't know if you heard the news that Lindsey Buckingham
and Stevie Nicks are re releasing I guess remastering, re
releasing their original album that they did together before they
even joined Fleetwood Mac, called Buckingham Nicks, and that's coming
up I think on September nineteenth.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
And what it has.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Done is it sparked a flurry of speculation and conversation
as to whether there is going to be a reunion
of Fleetwood Mac.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
We'll find out over time. We do know this.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
We have a reunion on deck right now with your
opportunity to win a copy of Dave Campbe's Texas Football Magazine.
We've been doing this every year since nineteen ninety eight,
and we've done it through different ways. We've been on
site when the late great Dave Campbell himself was with us.
We were out of a Randalls that old Randalls that
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used to be right were thirty fifth and thirty eighth
split there over by seat in the hospital. Bill Schoning
and I were over there doing that all the way
back in nineteen ninety eight and eight came out there
and sat out there and just signed magazines for three
hours out there.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Did that.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
That was the way he was. That's the way he
did that. Here's how we're gonna do it today. We're
gonna give away three copies today and it's real easy today.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Just gotta be quick. And as we've told.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
You, we're gonna give these way by way of our
talkback feature. So the way that works is you download
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It can be up to thirty seconds, then't have to
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But you leave us a message. And today, to start
it off, the first three who access us via the
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man antone like them will sift through that and the
first three to do it, are gonna win copies of
the magazine. They We're gonna give it away in different
ways in coming days. But that's how we're leading it
off today, and we're leading off our new season of
Talking Football with Greg Tepper, the man who now carries
the title of editor in chief as the late great
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Dave Campbell did at Dave Campill's Texas Football magazine. You
when you were on with this a couple of weeks ago,
you said, it is a responsibility you do not take lightly.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
But when you were at Texas High School.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Coaching school over the weekend as we were, and I
saw you down in San Antonio, did you.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Did you do?
Speaker 1 (02:42):
You get a lot of questions about that when you
were there at coaching school. In the exhibit all by people,
Oh so you're the EI C. Now you're the you're
the big man in charge. They had Hancho, the big cheese,
all of that. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Yeah, there was a fair number of people who who
asked me about and they said, so, what's different And
I'm like, well, I don't know. You're just gonna yell
at me about the magazine anyway, Like that's that's kind
of the role. It's now it's just like it's a
fancier title, I suppose, but but yeah, that you know,
I think it's it's it's obviously an honor, but it
was I will say this, and this is a clear,
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clear difference between Dave Campbell and I with not one
person asked me to sign a magazine, not one person,
and that that was always that was always the fun
part of coaching school.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
And we would bring mister Campbell.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Is that like you would see these like big burly
like strength and conditioning coaches turned head coaches who would
walk up to this frail eighty five.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Year old, you know, eighty eight year old man and be.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
Like, mister Campbell, it would be a great honor if
you signed my magazine. That's never happened to me once,
uh and so, and I don't anticipate it will happen.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
I mean at least not for quite some time. Okay.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
I get to tattle on you, and this only because
this has happened to me a lot of times. With
when we were doing the show in the day, somebody
came up to you when we were at this was
after the Hall of Honter Bank what Saturday night, I
guess it was and or Sunday whenever it was. It
was Sunday after the panel discussion, and somebody came up
to you while I was standard or talking to you
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and was giving you grief about about about coverage of
one specific school over another specific school.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
That yeah, it was someone.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
It all runs together now, but yeah, there, there's definitely, yeah,
I heard a fair amount of it. This was like
coaching school comes at a great time because coaches have
now most of them had their magazines at their subscribers
and and now they're they're they're hitting store shelves across
the state of Texas, by the way, so you can
go out to your AGV, your your Ropshire's, your Walmart,
your Barnes and Noble and find it, or you can
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win one right here on the zone and the But
now people have seen it, and now they.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Know what to be mad at me about. It's not
a question of if they're going to be mad.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
It's like it's it's like we can dial it in
and we go like, actually, you had a third in district.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
That's disrespectful.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Now it's it's it's it's.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Overall received pretty well.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
You've got your fair people, fair number of people who
are like, why aren't we higher?
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Or more more.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Likely more coaches come to me and say, why aren't
we lower? Because that's that's what That's what they want ultimately,
is Boltim wore material, all right?
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Did you get questions about the masthead because you said
that was a big thing for you guys to change
the masthead. It's still has Dave's signature on there, Dave
Campbell's Texas Football, but it's not that ban or like
that you had forever and ever and ever that day
started back in nineteen sixty, is it? Did you Did
you get many questions about that?
Speaker 3 (05:36):
We got a few, Yeah, a few people who noticed it,
because I think that's one of the things that we
take for granted around here, is that, like we got
people who've been reading our magazine a long time. They've
reading their magazine forty fifty years, and so that like,
when you changed something that is as front and center
as the masthead, then people are going to notice it.
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Like if you know, we've we've had we've had changes
in the vaccine, you know, and sharp eyed viewers will
notice it. But this is one of the more visible
changes we've made. And so we got a few a
fair number of people who commented on it all positive,
all said that they like it. Most of what we
heard was we like how big Dave's date is, Like,
that's one of the things there's sometimes you look past.
And obviously there was a time before he was you know,
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our nineteen sixty one was obviously that Dave Campbell's Texas
Football became that, you know, I want to say sometime
in the seventies, maybe it became Dave Campbell's instead of
just Texas Football. But yeah, people like the idea of
his name being front center, which was kind of.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
The whole point.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
So my, my, my long suffering wife who you know,
Linda loves to cover. She did say Circle's really intense.
Covern that said, well, you can be intense sometimes. It
was a great job by your photography staff in a
tremendous article done by Mike Cravener did such a good job,
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like he always does on all of the college pieces
that he authored in the magazine.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Yeah, craven craven We work him to the bone, planning simple,
but he especially shined I think in the Stark feature
where he got he really dug into I think the
core of some of the things about Steve Sarkisian and
his journey back and what makes him kind of an
unlikely guy to be the guy to bring Texas back
quote quote unquote, because.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
There were times where it wasn't gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
I mean, he was getting ready to call that wild
Oklahoma State Western Michigan game that he was although preparing
for it.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
When Dick Xaben called.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
To be honestaff like they were, he kind of thought
his coaching career might be over.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
And now he's got an opportunity.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
You know, we have a spoiler alert if you want
to flip through the magazine to our college section.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
We Technans ranked number one. Weving Textans going to win
a match championship at least they are our early pick.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
And and those are you know, for that kind of
transition is pretty remarkable. And then, by the way, from
Craig's Behalf You, he wrote, I think eleven of the
thirteen FBS sections Carter h Road, UTEP and Sam Houston.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
And and and so it's it's grinding.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
It's getting on the phone with all these coaches and
just making sure you're you're getting the insight scoop as
best you can.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
And and did a remarkable job. So yeah, we work
them to the bone, you know, But now he gets
to it relax a little bit of it, all right.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
So now that the magazine's out, I could ask you
some specific questions that I was holding off until it
hit the shelves. I asked you, even before it hit
the shelves, if you were able to hit the four
hundred number on the four hundred pages or did you
have to go beyond it? And you paused and you said,
we made it to four hundred. How did you do it?
Given given what looks to be even more expansive coverage,
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certainly of your collegiate section, and I'm looking at the
high school section, it doesn't look any worse for where
in terms of the total coverage, how'd you pull it off?
Speaker 3 (08:49):
We're throwing to the bone, man, I mean, like what
you'll notice, honestly, like we're taking there, we're taking pages
from like the index, right, We're taking pages from like
we're squeezing like state champions, all that stuff in the
back of the end zone, the a lot of the
reference stuff. We're trying to squeeze it out. But I
will tell you, like you know, I'll just break some
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news here on the zone. We are reaching an inflection
point because, for example, you may know.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Utub's moving to the Mountain West.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Yeah, right, Texas State moving to the PAC twelve is
actually a one for one switch because we can just
turn the sun Belt preview into a PAC twelve breview.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Right for me, when these things happen, this is the
way my brain is broken.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
I'm thinking, Okay, we don't have to add a page
for that, but we will have to add in a
Mountain West page at some point and starting next year.
And so now I'm thinking, i gotta find another page somewhere.
You know, we we're squeezing and squeezing as best we can,
but like there will there, like ultimately they will come
a point where it's like we're gonna have to think
about expanding.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
But Farida pages is where we're stuck at.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
We found a way to keep everything for the most
part intact, but like for example, we don't cover the
Cowboys and Texans anymore. We just we had to ditch
it because we just needed the space. You know, Sam,
if you if you are looking at the Texans pred
you can blame Sam Houston. That is actually the trade
off that happened there, So we'll figure it out. But
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it is, it's, it's it's it's a lot of football
to squeeze.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
In four inner pages.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Yeah, and and trust me when I say this, I'm
not complaining about any of it because it looks great.
My suggestion would be, go ahead, expanded to four to
twenty five, put the Cowboys and Texans back in, and
put whether the thing I.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Used to love, dearly love when you would.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Have that page of the entire Division one college football schedule.
In fact, there was a time magazine you had the
schedules of even the Jucos and the fcs.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
And the D two and the D three.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
I mean, yeah, you can throw all that in and
roll it still out at four twenty five.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
We we could, you know that That's one thing like
if we were to expand, like there are some things
that I would like to bring back, like like we
used to at the front of the magazine. You'll notice
we have a couple We have a couple of like
full page photo spreads and stuff, and I really love
those pages. We call them double coverage. That's some great
photos and including one house park. They're they're in the
Austin area really love those. We've had to trim those back.
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We used to do three or four. Now we just
have a room for two. So if we were to expand,
those are the things I'd like to bring back. Is
is the schedules. And I remember the first year we
got rid of the schedules. We we heard about it
from fulk like where where, Like I count on this
and you know, decisions, decisions have to be made. It's
kind of like I perhaps I told the story before
when I first when I first got out of college,
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I got a job briefly at the Tulsa World and
I was working on the sports copy desk. And I
remember talking to another one of the copy editors at
some point and they said, the worst day we've ever
had here as far as phone calls, was the day
that we got rid of the Bridge column. We got
rid of the Bridge column for like one day, and
apparently the phone lines lit up and everybody was like,
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what are.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
You doing with it? Like you're you're ruining my paper?
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Uh but uh, you know, but but the Bridge calumn
was back I think two days later.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
So uh, maybe we'll learn our listen to the people spoke, Uh,
visiting with Greg Tepper, editor in chief Dave Campbell, Texas
Football Magazine. Let me jump to high school and we'll
do some previews here. Let me let me start with
six A. Uh you said it would be hard when
we were talking on back not to pick South Lake
Carol number one in six A and and and by
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the way, folks need to know, and I.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Like how you guys do this.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
I always have UH since you went this route where
you have uh say, in each of the classifications you
will you will have your uh your top teams and
and and ranked them at your preseason rankings of those teams.
But in class five A and four A and three
A and two A and A you have a top
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twenty five of Division one and Division two. Six A
of course doesn't go the split into the playoff route
until you get to the postseason. Therefore you rank the
top and I think that's a good representation of it
on that. How about your thoughts, I mean, I look
at this top ten. It's a who's who, with South
Lake Carol one, defending state champ in D one, North
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Crowley two, Duncanville three, West Lake four, north Shore five, Vandergrift,
the defending state champ and D two is six, Allen seven,
KD eight, Lake Travis nine, and Desota ten.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
I mean that's a who's who. Really.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
It is like you don't you really don't get to
a relative party crasher in our rankings until you get
to number twelve at four ben Ridgepoint, which is a
team I'm really really high on heading in.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
The twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
But yeah, I mean it's it's a blue blood vest
there and it usually is in six A. And you
look at South Lake Carroll. You know, nineteen starters back
from last year's ball club, Angelo Renda brock Boyd, the
Ohio States minute wide receiver.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
They'renna have some of the best tight end play in
the state or defense.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
I think as an opportunity to take a step forward
there that seems to be I think in Division two,
and they.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Are going the Division two route by virtue of being
in District four. You put in North Crowley.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
Now North Crown is really interesting because they are a
team that I think, I think pound for pound, I
want to make sure I'm thinking this through as it's
coming up. I think power for pound, they are the
best team in Texas. Last year, North Prowley. There's some
other teams that could maybe leay acclaim Gordon I think
in one a Division one probably has the best argument
against that. But let's just say they were the best
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team in pound for pound the state. They got hammered
by graduation, especially from a star power perspective. Star power,
you know, Chris Jefferson, Quentin Gibson. I mean, the guys
they lost are you don't just go out there and replace.
But yet I think their defense has an opportunity to
be really really special, And in talking with Ray Gaates,
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he feels really good about what they're going to bring
back offensively. So I think that that's a team that
we think is the early favorite in Division one. But
of course Duncanville Looms Westlake we think is going to
be right there in the mix as well.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
To make it back an RF pick to win Region
four again.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
Leana Park Northshore is going to be interesting because they're
making a transition at quarterback, although it's a guy that
we've seen a lot of them killed killed Maryland. And
then you know, Vandergriff talk with Drew Sanders at coaching
school and he feels great about what they've got coming back.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
And he should.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Miles Tedeki is back at the quarterback spot, who is
such a revelation for them. There is some reloading to
do on the defensive side, but we know Drew Sanders
is a defensive guy. They're going to get up to speed.
And then the last one I'll talk about is Alan.
I think I think we put in the rankings. I
think I think I think the comment we made was
their back. If you if you forgot about Alan and
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they haven't been in a title game since twenty seventeen,
I think it is if you forgot about him, They're back.
They're going to be a problem this year. So it's
a who's who they're in six acts.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
If you were to pick and I'm just I'm just
scanning your top fifty, let me give you three names
out of these guys, and you tell me who is
a more realistic dark horse to make a run, to
make a real run in the postseason. The three that
I would throw at you would be Side Falls. I
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would also say clean Kine and I would say you're
Alma Mater cop.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Hell, that's raise.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
Yeah. I really like Sci Falls. I think that they
are in for a breakout year. I think that Actually,
you know, one of the things I think for those
who don't know, sci Fair ISD splits their teams not
just into two districts, but into two different regions. There's
side Fair teams that are in Region two and District
sixteen and side Fair teams that are in District District
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seventeen in Region three.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
They're on the dirty side of it. And if they're
gonna go.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
To Region three, Although dealing with Norse or versus Duncanville
feels like a pick one of the other. I love
what they're gonna do defensively upfront, James Harris and Kaden mccordy.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
I think they've got an opportunity to be great.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
They've got a quarterback they really like in Britain, Dervic Knee,
that I think could be that team to break out.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
But I like I like Clian Kane as well.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
This is, you know, one of the things that I've
got to get over, and this is the me issue,
right is that they lost. If you remember, they were
a team that lost in the first round of the playoffs.
They ran to cy Ranch in the first round and
it's a tough draw there in the first round of
the playoffs, but I think that if they can kind
of get into in the mix right. One of the
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things that I think that I really like about what
they're going to have especially is they've got some youngsters.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
They've been really excited about this this sophomore class.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
I think they're gonna start be able to being able
to put out there.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
The issue with with Kine.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
To to talk about both sides of my mouth here,
is that they'll go D one and so at some
point you're gonna have to deal with some some of
the big bullies there. Uh as far as that, in fact,
I believe all three of them are going to go
D one. Side falls. I think we have projected to
go D one as well, he said, confidently, Yeah, D one.
So this is that's something keeping on Coupel. Coupel is interesting.
Cup Hell is a team that my own very strong
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last year. They are losing a quarterback, but in talking
with Antonio Wiley at coaching school this week, he feels
great about their quarter I think they've got a sophomore
quarterback that they think could be the real stinking deal.
So Coupels in the mix as much as the pain's
actually pickle for me to say, I think They're gonna
be pretty although Lando's gonna be pretty good too.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
She doesn't have any any reason to be upset. Well
that's true.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Okay, final thing here, of these two Central Texas six
A programs, which one is more of a threat both,
you have both of them ranked so so you must
think something of them Dripping Springs or Harker Heights.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Man, So I've been on the Dripping Springs vandwagon for
a while now. I really like what they've they've got
coming back, and especially I think that they like the
experience they have coming back and you just look at again,
I've may have even said this on this program. I
think that might be one of the more underrated programs
in six A. Like I think like last year they
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went eight and four, but the three previous seasons they've
won ten games, ten plus games. They're gonna be back
in that mix. I like Dripping Springs, but the answer
is gonna be Parker Heights. And the reason why is
Hudson Humble, their quarterback. This guy, he's the coach's kid,
Mark Humble. And when I tell you that, I don't
know that there was a guy that impressed us more
on the seven on seven circuit than Hudson Humble. The
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quarterback at Harker Heights, they're gonna be loaded. And you know,
you add in the other advantage that they have is
that they're in region you know, they're gonna be in
Region two, so they won't have to deal with Lake.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Travis and West. They won't have to deal with those teams.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
You know, at some point that's the deal teams from
from DFW area. But I love what this Parker Heights
team comes back, has coming back and if they can
find some answers on the defensive side, that offense is
gonna hum.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
I am. I'm excited about Harker Heights.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
They're in the Killeen area, and I think that the
quarterback there is going to be a breakout star across
the state this year.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Okay, so we're off and running. Next week, we'll jump
to five A and and well, oh by the way,
uh from the text line one, Uh, you had another
vote for the schedule. Somebody said yes, bring the schedules
back please, So that's there's somebody else added in that column. Yeah,
and then somebody else asking, will you ask Greg when
those Dave Campbell's.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
T shirts are going to come out. Are you changed?
Speaker 3 (20:29):
So you changed the masthead, right, you changed the masthead
and suddenly everyone wants merch. Yeah, we're we're working on it.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
I can tell you confidently that we're working on it.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
That is the you have been heard, The demand has
been heard, and we are actively working on getting some
merch out for the people because we know we we
we have heard you loud and clear. There's a lot
of people who who want it. So we uh, we've
we we're working on plans. I can tell you that
that that that is in process here at the Mothership.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
And the final question here, uh, somebody asked if you, uh,
let's kick off the season like normal, Greg, do you
still hate Argyle?
Speaker 2 (21:10):
I would say, first of.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
All, it was not George dundaman Cent and he's a
Cowboys training camp, so it wouldn't be George. His son,
by the way, Blake Dunham, I don't know if you
saw him. He's on the coaching staff at Houston Christian
He really he is running backs and special teams coach
for eight CU.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Yeah, he's moving up to the world the special teams.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
They would be fools not to put him on the
special teams, right, that would have been.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
That's that's the that's the layup of the years. Put
him on special teams.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
I mean his special teams units were always like the
best in Texas.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
So yeah, that makes a lot of sense. Oh yeah, Argyle.
I mean for sure they know, they know what they did.
Here's a spoiler.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Art You've got him ranked number four in five A
D two, so you must not hate him that much.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
I like I like Argyll a lot, Maguire Gasperson.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Their quarterback is a big time playmaker, and they have
a receiver whose.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Name is escaping me at the moment, who is.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
Like a real, live, certified blue shit prospect, and they're
gonna they're gonna air it out. It's gonna be weird because, like,
I think I've made no bugs. But I think Todd
Rodgers is one of the best coach in the state
heart stop, and one of the things he does so
well is that his teams are always chameleons.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
They're always like, what are we good at? Let's just
do that.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
I mean it's not long ago that that they had
Nick Rawlston out there carrying the ball forty five times
in a.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Title game or something like that.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Right now, this year they're gonna air it out, gonna
get up front, they're gonna air it out.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
I'm excited to see what I on this. So yeah,
I mean that's that's that's as deep the hatred goes. Yeah,
the guy you were thinking of was a Julian Caldwell.
Julian Yeah. Yeah, he's a playmaker. Yeah yeah. So there
it is. Greg Tempreeze.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
He editor in chief Dake Campbell's Texas Football magazine. We
shift to Tuesdays starting next week and all the way
through the end of this football season coming up.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
I appreciate weeks.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
When you brought me on to yacht Rock, I was
really shook because normally it's Texas Tuesday that I come on.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
And I was like, and what I tell you because
for those who don't know coaching school, I was there.
I got there Friday night and I just got back
last night, and it's like a casino, like you forget
what time it is because there's no windows and stuff. Right,
So I have been I have not known what day
it is for the last like five days. And so
when I got yacht Rock in my ears, I was like,
did I do something wrong?
Speaker 1 (23:17):
So there it is some yacht Rock for you there
on the WEDNESDA.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
You'll be back on Texas Tuesdays next week.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Hey, I appreciate the time and we'll look forward to
our visit next week.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
All right. Thanks.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
That's Greg Tapper, editor in chief Dave Campbell's Texas Football Magazine,
and we've already tossed out the invitation to win to
win a copy of the magazine, We're giving away three
today to the first three who responded via the talkback,
and we'll know who those are because those are being
tracked by none other than Antoine leikamar Our, our man
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extraordinaire who'll handle it, and he'll let us know and
we'll reveal those names tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Alright. We have more coming up as we continue on
thirteen under the Zone
The reason for playing the Lindsay Buckingham tune there. I
don't know if you heard the news that Lindsey Buckingham
and Stevie Nicks are re releasing I guess remastering, re
releasing their original album that they did together before they
even joined Fleetwood Mac, called Buckingham Nicks, and that's coming
up I think on September nineteenth.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
And what it has.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Done is it sparked a flurry of speculation and conversation
as to whether there is going to be a reunion
of Fleetwood Mac.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
We'll find out over time. We do know this.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
We have a reunion on deck right now with your
opportunity to win a copy of Dave Campbe's Texas Football Magazine.
We've been doing this every year since nineteen ninety eight,
and we've done it through different ways. We've been on
site when the late great Dave Campbell himself was with us.
We were out of a Randalls that old Randalls that
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used to be right were thirty fifth and thirty eighth
split there over by seat in the hospital. Bill Schoning
and I were over there doing that all the way
back in nineteen ninety eight and eight came out there
and sat out there and just signed magazines for three
hours out there.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Did that.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
That was the way he was. That's the way he
did that. Here's how we're gonna do it today. We're
gonna give away three copies today and it's real easy today.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Just gotta be quick. And as we've told.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
You, we're gonna give these way by way of our
talkback feature. So the way that works is you download
the iHeartRadio app on your phone, if you don't already
have it, it's free, it's easy, and all that you
search AM thirteen under the zone and then when you
do that, it comes up. There's two buttons. There's a
white button with a little white triangle and that's just
to listen to us. There's a red button with a
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white microphone. You want to tap that button, and that
is our talkback feature, and you leave us a message.
It can be up to thirty seconds, then't have to
be it can be five, ten seconds, whatever wants to be.
But you leave us a message. And today, to start
it off, the first three who access us via the
talkback feature will win a copy of the magazine. Our
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man antone like them will sift through that and the
first three to do it, are gonna win copies of
the magazine. They We're gonna give it away in different
ways in coming days. But that's how we're leading it
off today, and we're leading off our new season of
Talking Football with Greg Tepper, the man who now carries
the title of editor in chief as the late great
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Dave Campbell did at Dave Campill's Texas Football magazine. You
when you were on with this a couple of weeks ago,
you said, it is a responsibility you do not take lightly.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
But when you were at Texas High School.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Coaching school over the weekend as we were, and I
saw you down in San Antonio, did you.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Did you do?
Speaker 1 (02:42):
You get a lot of questions about that when you
were there at coaching school. In the exhibit all by people,
Oh so you're the EI C. Now you're the you're
the big man in charge. They had Hancho, the big cheese,
all of that. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Yeah, there was a fair number of people who who
asked me about and they said, so, what's different And
I'm like, well, I don't know. You're just gonna yell
at me about the magazine anyway, Like that's that's kind
of the role. It's now it's just like it's a
fancier title, I suppose, but but yeah, that you know,
I think it's it's it's obviously an honor, but it
was I will say this, and this is a clear,
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clear difference between Dave Campbell and I with not one
person asked me to sign a magazine, not one person,
and that that was always that was always the fun
part of coaching school.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
And we would bring mister Campbell.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Is that like you would see these like big burly
like strength and conditioning coaches turned head coaches who would
walk up to this frail eighty five.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Year old, you know, eighty eight year old man and be.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
Like, mister Campbell, it would be a great honor if
you signed my magazine. That's never happened to me once,
uh and so, and I don't anticipate it will happen.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
I mean at least not for quite some time. Okay.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
I get to tattle on you, and this only because
this has happened to me a lot of times. With
when we were doing the show in the day, somebody
came up to you when we were at this was
after the Hall of Honter Bank what Saturday night, I
guess it was and or Sunday whenever it was. It
was Sunday after the panel discussion, and somebody came up
to you while I was standard or talking to you
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and was giving you grief about about about coverage of
one specific school over another specific school.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
That yeah, it was someone.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
It all runs together now, but yeah, there, there's definitely, yeah,
I heard a fair amount of it. This was like
coaching school comes at a great time because coaches have
now most of them had their magazines at their subscribers
and and now they're they're they're hitting store shelves across
the state of Texas, by the way, so you can
go out to your AGV, your your Ropshire's, your Walmart,
your Barnes and Noble and find it, or you can
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win one right here on the zone and the But
now people have seen it, and now they.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Know what to be mad at me about. It's not
a question of if they're going to be mad.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
It's like it's it's like we can dial it in
and we go like, actually, you had a third in district.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
That's disrespectful.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Now it's it's it's it's.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Overall received pretty well.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
You've got your fair people, fair number of people who
are like, why aren't we higher?
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Or more more.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Likely more coaches come to me and say, why aren't
we lower? Because that's that's what That's what they want ultimately,
is Boltim wore material, all right?
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Did you get questions about the masthead because you said
that was a big thing for you guys to change
the masthead. It's still has Dave's signature on there, Dave
Campbell's Texas Football, but it's not that ban or like
that you had forever and ever and ever that day
started back in nineteen sixty, is it? Did you Did
you get many questions about that?
Speaker 3 (05:36):
We got a few, Yeah, a few people who noticed it,
because I think that's one of the things that we
take for granted around here, is that, like we got
people who've been reading our magazine a long time. They've
reading their magazine forty fifty years, and so that like,
when you changed something that is as front and center
as the masthead, then people are going to notice it.
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Like if you know, we've we've had we've had changes
in the vaccine, you know, and sharp eyed viewers will
notice it. But this is one of the more visible
changes we've made. And so we got a few a
fair number of people who commented on it all positive,
all said that they like it. Most of what we
heard was we like how big Dave's date is, Like,
that's one of the things there's sometimes you look past.
And obviously there was a time before he was you know,
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our nineteen sixty one was obviously that Dave Campbell's Texas
Football became that, you know, I want to say sometime
in the seventies, maybe it became Dave Campbell's instead of
just Texas Football. But yeah, people like the idea of
his name being front center, which was kind of.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
The whole point.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
So my, my, my long suffering wife who you know,
Linda loves to cover. She did say Circle's really intense.
Covern that said, well, you can be intense sometimes. It
was a great job by your photography staff in a
tremendous article done by Mike Cravener did such a good job,
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like he always does on all of the college pieces
that he authored in the magazine.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Yeah, craven craven We work him to the bone, planning simple,
but he especially shined I think in the Stark feature
where he got he really dug into I think the
core of some of the things about Steve Sarkisian and
his journey back and what makes him kind of an
unlikely guy to be the guy to bring Texas back
quote quote unquote, because.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
There were times where it wasn't gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
I mean, he was getting ready to call that wild
Oklahoma State Western Michigan game that he was although preparing
for it.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
When Dick Xaben called.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
To be honestaff like they were, he kind of thought
his coaching career might be over.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
And now he's got an opportunity.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
You know, we have a spoiler alert if you want
to flip through the magazine to our college section.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
We Technans ranked number one. Weving Textans going to win
a match championship at least they are our early pick.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
And and those are you know, for that kind of
transition is pretty remarkable. And then, by the way, from
Craig's Behalf You, he wrote, I think eleven of the
thirteen FBS sections Carter h Road, UTEP and Sam Houston.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
And and and so it's it's grinding.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
It's getting on the phone with all these coaches and
just making sure you're you're getting the insight scoop as
best you can.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
And and did a remarkable job. So yeah, we work
them to the bone, you know, But now he gets
to it relax a little bit of it, all right.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
So now that the magazine's out, I could ask you
some specific questions that I was holding off until it
hit the shelves. I asked you, even before it hit
the shelves, if you were able to hit the four
hundred number on the four hundred pages or did you
have to go beyond it? And you paused and you said,
we made it to four hundred. How did you do it?
Given given what looks to be even more expansive coverage,
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certainly of your collegiate section, and I'm looking at the
high school section, it doesn't look any worse for where
in terms of the total coverage, how'd you pull it off?
Speaker 3 (08:49):
We're throwing to the bone, man, I mean, like what
you'll notice, honestly, like we're taking there, we're taking pages
from like the index, right, We're taking pages from like
we're squeezing like state champions, all that stuff in the
back of the end zone, the a lot of the
reference stuff. We're trying to squeeze it out. But I
will tell you, like you know, I'll just break some
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news here on the zone. We are reaching an inflection
point because, for example, you may know.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Utub's moving to the Mountain West.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Yeah, right, Texas State moving to the PAC twelve is
actually a one for one switch because we can just
turn the sun Belt preview into a PAC twelve breview.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Right for me, when these things happen, this is the
way my brain is broken.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
I'm thinking, Okay, we don't have to add a page
for that, but we will have to add in a
Mountain West page at some point and starting next year.
And so now I'm thinking, i gotta find another page somewhere.
You know, we we're squeezing and squeezing as best we can,
but like there will there, like ultimately they will come
a point where it's like we're gonna have to think
about expanding.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
But Farida pages is where we're stuck at.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
We found a way to keep everything for the most
part intact, but like for example, we don't cover the
Cowboys and Texans anymore. We just we had to ditch
it because we just needed the space. You know, Sam,
if you if you are looking at the Texans pred
you can blame Sam Houston. That is actually the trade
off that happened there, So we'll figure it out. But
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it is, it's, it's it's it's a lot of football
to squeeze.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
In four inner pages.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Yeah, and and trust me when I say this, I'm
not complaining about any of it because it looks great.
My suggestion would be, go ahead, expanded to four to
twenty five, put the Cowboys and Texans back in, and
put whether the thing I.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Used to love, dearly love when you would.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Have that page of the entire Division one college football schedule.
In fact, there was a time magazine you had the
schedules of even the Jucos and the fcs.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
And the D two and the D three.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
I mean, yeah, you can throw all that in and
roll it still out at four twenty five.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
We we could, you know that That's one thing like
if we were to expand, like there are some things
that I would like to bring back, like like we
used to at the front of the magazine. You'll notice
we have a couple We have a couple of like
full page photo spreads and stuff, and I really love
those pages. We call them double coverage. That's some great
photos and including one house park. They're they're in the
Austin area really love those. We've had to trim those back.
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We used to do three or four. Now we just
have a room for two. So if we were to expand,
those are the things I'd like to bring back. Is
is the schedules. And I remember the first year we
got rid of the schedules. We we heard about it
from fulk like where where, Like I count on this
and you know, decisions, decisions have to be made. It's
kind of like I perhaps I told the story before
when I first when I first got out of college,
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I got a job briefly at the Tulsa World and
I was working on the sports copy desk. And I
remember talking to another one of the copy editors at
some point and they said, the worst day we've ever
had here as far as phone calls, was the day
that we got rid of the Bridge column. We got
rid of the Bridge column for like one day, and
apparently the phone lines lit up and everybody was like,
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what are.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
You doing with it? Like you're you're ruining my paper?
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Uh but uh, you know, but but the Bridge calumn
was back I think two days later.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
So uh, maybe we'll learn our listen to the people spoke, Uh,
visiting with Greg Tepper, editor in chief Dave Campbell, Texas
Football Magazine. Let me jump to high school and we'll
do some previews here. Let me let me start with
six A. Uh you said it would be hard when
we were talking on back not to pick South Lake
Carol number one in six A and and and by
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the way, folks need to know, and I.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Like how you guys do this.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
I always have UH since you went this route where
you have uh say, in each of the classifications you
will you will have your uh your top teams and
and and ranked them at your preseason rankings of those teams.
But in class five A and four A and three
A and two A and A you have a top
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twenty five of Division one and Division two. Six A
of course doesn't go the split into the playoff route
until you get to the postseason. Therefore you rank the
top and I think that's a good representation of it
on that. How about your thoughts, I mean, I look
at this top ten. It's a who's who, with South
Lake Carol one, defending state champ in D one, North
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Crowley two, Duncanville three, West Lake four, north Shore five, Vandergrift,
the defending state champ and D two is six, Allen seven,
KD eight, Lake Travis nine, and Desota ten.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
I mean that's a who's who. Really.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
It is like you don't you really don't get to
a relative party crasher in our rankings until you get
to number twelve at four ben Ridgepoint, which is a
team I'm really really high on heading in.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
The twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
But yeah, I mean it's it's a blue blood vest
there and it usually is in six A. And you
look at South Lake Carroll. You know, nineteen starters back
from last year's ball club, Angelo Renda brock Boyd, the
Ohio States minute wide receiver.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
They'renna have some of the best tight end play in
the state or defense.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
I think as an opportunity to take a step forward
there that seems to be I think in Division two,
and they.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Are going the Division two route by virtue of being
in District four. You put in North Crowley.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
Now North Crown is really interesting because they are a
team that I think, I think pound for pound, I
want to make sure I'm thinking this through as it's
coming up. I think power for pound, they are the
best team in Texas. Last year, North Prowley. There's some
other teams that could maybe leay acclaim Gordon I think
in one a Division one probably has the best argument
against that. But let's just say they were the best
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team in pound for pound the state. They got hammered
by graduation, especially from a star power perspective. Star power,
you know, Chris Jefferson, Quentin Gibson. I mean, the guys
they lost are you don't just go out there and replace.
But yet I think their defense has an opportunity to
be really really special, And in talking with Ray Gaates,
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he feels really good about what they're going to bring
back offensively. So I think that that's a team that
we think is the early favorite in Division one. But
of course Duncanville Looms Westlake we think is going to
be right there in the mix as well.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
To make it back an RF pick to win Region
four again.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
Leana Park Northshore is going to be interesting because they're
making a transition at quarterback, although it's a guy that
we've seen a lot of them killed killed Maryland. And
then you know, Vandergriff talk with Drew Sanders at coaching
school and he feels great about what they've got coming back.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
And he should.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Miles Tedeki is back at the quarterback spot, who is
such a revelation for them. There is some reloading to
do on the defensive side, but we know Drew Sanders
is a defensive guy. They're going to get up to speed.
And then the last one I'll talk about is Alan.
I think I think we put in the rankings. I
think I think I think the comment we made was
their back. If you if you forgot about Alan and
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they haven't been in a title game since twenty seventeen,
I think it is if you forgot about him, They're back.
They're going to be a problem this year. So it's
a who's who they're in six acts.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
If you were to pick and I'm just I'm just
scanning your top fifty, let me give you three names
out of these guys, and you tell me who is
a more realistic dark horse to make a run, to
make a real run in the postseason. The three that
I would throw at you would be Side Falls. I
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would also say clean Kine and I would say you're
Alma Mater cop.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Hell, that's raise.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
Yeah. I really like Sci Falls. I think that they
are in for a breakout year. I think that Actually,
you know, one of the things I think for those
who don't know, sci Fair ISD splits their teams not
just into two districts, but into two different regions. There's
side Fair teams that are in Region two and District
sixteen and side Fair teams that are in District District
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seventeen in Region three.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
They're on the dirty side of it. And if they're
gonna go.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
To Region three, Although dealing with Norse or versus Duncanville
feels like a pick one of the other. I love
what they're gonna do defensively upfront, James Harris and Kaden mccordy.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
I think they've got an opportunity to be great.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
They've got a quarterback they really like in Britain, Dervic Knee,
that I think could be that team to break out.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
But I like I like Clian Kane as well.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
This is, you know, one of the things that I've
got to get over, and this is the me issue,
right is that they lost. If you remember, they were
a team that lost in the first round of the playoffs.
They ran to cy Ranch in the first round and
it's a tough draw there in the first round of
the playoffs, but I think that if they can kind
of get into in the mix right. One of the
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things that I think that I really like about what
they're going to have especially is they've got some youngsters.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
They've been really excited about this this sophomore class.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
I think they're gonna start be able to being able
to put out there.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
The issue with with Kine.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
To to talk about both sides of my mouth here,
is that they'll go D one and so at some
point you're gonna have to deal with some some of
the big bullies there. Uh as far as that, in fact,
I believe all three of them are going to go
D one. Side falls. I think we have projected to
go D one as well, he said, confidently, Yeah, D one.
So this is that's something keeping on Coupel. Coupel is interesting.
Cup Hell is a team that my own very strong
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last year. They are losing a quarterback, but in talking
with Antonio Wiley at coaching school this week, he feels
great about their quarter I think they've got a sophomore
quarterback that they think could be the real stinking deal.
So Coupels in the mix as much as the pain's
actually pickle for me to say, I think They're gonna
be pretty although Lando's gonna be pretty good too.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
She doesn't have any any reason to be upset. Well
that's true.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Okay, final thing here, of these two Central Texas six
A programs, which one is more of a threat both,
you have both of them ranked so so you must
think something of them Dripping Springs or Harker Heights.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Man, So I've been on the Dripping Springs vandwagon for
a while now. I really like what they've they've got
coming back, and especially I think that they like the
experience they have coming back and you just look at again,
I've may have even said this on this program. I
think that might be one of the more underrated programs
in six A. Like I think like last year they
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went eight and four, but the three previous seasons they've
won ten games, ten plus games. They're gonna be back
in that mix. I like Dripping Springs, but the answer
is gonna be Parker Heights. And the reason why is
Hudson Humble, their quarterback. This guy, he's the coach's kid,
Mark Humble. And when I tell you that, I don't
know that there was a guy that impressed us more
on the seven on seven circuit than Hudson Humble. The
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quarterback at Harker Heights, they're gonna be loaded. And you know,
you add in the other advantage that they have is
that they're in region you know, they're gonna be in
Region two, so they won't have to deal with Lake.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Travis and West. They won't have to deal with those teams.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
You know, at some point that's the deal teams from
from DFW area. But I love what this Parker Heights
team comes back, has coming back and if they can
find some answers on the defensive side, that offense is
gonna hum.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
I am. I'm excited about Harker Heights.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
They're in the Killeen area, and I think that the
quarterback there is going to be a breakout star across
the state this year.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Okay, so we're off and running. Next week, we'll jump
to five A and and well, oh by the way,
uh from the text line one, Uh, you had another
vote for the schedule. Somebody said yes, bring the schedules
back please, So that's there's somebody else added in that column. Yeah,
and then somebody else asking, will you ask Greg when
those Dave Campbell's.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
T shirts are going to come out. Are you changed?
Speaker 3 (20:29):
So you changed the masthead, right, you changed the masthead
and suddenly everyone wants merch. Yeah, we're we're working on it.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
I can tell you confidently that we're working on it.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
That is the you have been heard, The demand has
been heard, and we are actively working on getting some
merch out for the people because we know we we
we have heard you loud and clear. There's a lot
of people who who want it. So we uh, we've
we we're working on plans. I can tell you that
that that that is in process here at the Mothership.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
And the final question here, uh, somebody asked if you, uh,
let's kick off the season like normal, Greg, do you
still hate Argyle?
Speaker 2 (21:10):
I would say, first of.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
All, it was not George dundaman Cent and he's a
Cowboys training camp, so it wouldn't be George. His son,
by the way, Blake Dunham, I don't know if you
saw him. He's on the coaching staff at Houston Christian
He really he is running backs and special teams coach
for eight CU.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Yeah, he's moving up to the world the special teams.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
They would be fools not to put him on the
special teams, right, that would have been.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
That's that's the that's the layup of the years. Put
him on special teams.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
I mean his special teams units were always like the
best in Texas.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
So yeah, that makes a lot of sense. Oh yeah, Argyle.
I mean for sure they know, they know what they did.
Here's a spoiler.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Art You've got him ranked number four in five A
D two, so you must not hate him that much.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
I like I like Argyll a lot, Maguire Gasperson.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Their quarterback is a big time playmaker, and they have
a receiver whose.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Name is escaping me at the moment, who is.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
Like a real, live, certified blue shit prospect, and they're
gonna they're gonna air it out. It's gonna be weird because, like,
I think I've made no bugs. But I think Todd
Rodgers is one of the best coach in the state
heart stop, and one of the things he does so
well is that his teams are always chameleons.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
They're always like, what are we good at? Let's just
do that.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
I mean it's not long ago that that they had
Nick Rawlston out there carrying the ball forty five times
in a.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Title game or something like that.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Right now, this year they're gonna air it out, gonna
get up front, they're gonna air it out.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
I'm excited to see what I on this. So yeah,
I mean that's that's that's as deep the hatred goes. Yeah,
the guy you were thinking of was a Julian Caldwell.
Julian Yeah. Yeah, he's a playmaker. Yeah yeah. So there
it is. Greg Tempreeze.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
He editor in chief Dake Campbell's Texas Football magazine. We
shift to Tuesdays starting next week and all the way
through the end of this football season coming up.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
I appreciate weeks.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
When you brought me on to yacht Rock, I was
really shook because normally it's Texas Tuesday that I come on.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
And I was like, and what I tell you because
for those who don't know coaching school, I was there.
I got there Friday night and I just got back
last night, and it's like a casino, like you forget
what time it is because there's no windows and stuff. Right,
So I have been I have not known what day
it is for the last like five days. And so
when I got yacht Rock in my ears, I was like,
did I do something wrong?
Speaker 1 (23:17):
So there it is some yacht Rock for you there
on the WEDNESDA.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
You'll be back on Texas Tuesdays next week.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Hey, I appreciate the time and we'll look forward to
our visit next week.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
All right. Thanks.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
That's Greg Tapper, editor in chief Dave Campbell's Texas Football Magazine,
and we've already tossed out the invitation to win to
win a copy of the magazine, We're giving away three
today to the first three who responded via the talkback,
and we'll know who those are because those are being
tracked by none other than Antoine leikamar Our, our man
(23:55):
extraordinaire who'll handle it, and he'll let us know and
we'll reveal those names tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Alright. We have more coming up as we continue on
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