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Speaker 1 (00:00):
On a Tuesday in time to talk some football with
the managing editor of Dave Campbell's Texas Football magazine and
also whom I join alongside Aaron Hartigan as well the
three of us bringing in a high school scoreboard live
on Friday nine, So Valley Sports Southwest.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
It's Greg Tepper. But Teb, I have to ask you something.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Do you share I think I know the answer to
this question, But do you share in the schadenfreude displayed
by my producer Cameron Parker on the misfortunes of the
other Major League Baseball team in the state of Texas
when they're trailing in Game one of their Wildcard Series
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three to nothing Detroit in the bottom of the sixth inning.
Are you, deep down inside, as a Ranger season ticket
holder kind of delighting at the early anyway Astro's misfortune.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
No, And I'll tell you why, very specifically, which is
this will never end well for me. They just won't.
One of the one of the worst things about being
a Rangers fan in this era, which by the way,
is still the reigning World Series champions.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
I do want to make that known, just remind people, is.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
That is that their art rival is the Astros and
the Astros are the villain in the horror movie that
like you can't that you can't kill. There was a
time it was it was I believe games. It must
be one of the one of the late games in
the series. In the ALCS last year, the Rangers had
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a big lead. It might have been a game six
or game seven, and uh and they had a big
lead and I want to say, they're by like eight
and in the ninth and Josel Tuve hits a solo
home run to left field to trim the lead to
seven or something like that, and the only thought going
through my head is, well, the Rangers are about to
give nine runs and lose this game, like there's there's
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no way, like the astros As will not go away.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
It must be fun.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
I wonder if it's fun being an Astros fan, simply
because like you're you, you live rent free in the
heads of so many teams, most especially my to my
my head that they're down three nothing, and all I'm
thinking is like, cook, all right, that's like two swings
of a bat and back in at like you know.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
It's don't work. That's said. I know how this movie ends.
I've seen it too many times.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
You have you have all that Rangers PTSD working. That's
that's the Oh yeah, that's that's the problem on that.
Let me let me shift to football and when to
Starwarck College and get your thoughts on something, because I
know you tweeted about it and I thought it was
a pretty appropriate tweet. The announcement today that you tap
is going to go to the Mountain West Conference. Now,
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there will be a lot of people I think I've
read this comment, these comments, and it was the first
all that went through my mind. This is actually kind
of a realignment move. That makes sense. They were in
the old whack that had several of what are the
current Mountain West members or future Mountain West members in there,
I think, or more natural fit for the Mountain West
Conference than they are for Conference USA or the Sun
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Belt or any of the American or any.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Of those those others like this.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
But you looked at it from a selfish perspective on
your tweet, which I thought was rather humorous.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Yeah, what this means is that now as it stands
right now, that I believe this will go in fact
into twenty twenty six, but as it stands right now,
That would mean that the twenty twenty sixth edition of
Dave Campbell's Texas Football would feature previews of the SEC,
the Big Twelve, the ACC, the AAC, the Sun Belt
Conference USA.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
And the Mountain West.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
So I have to find a page in the four
hundred page magazine to put a Mountain West preview. And
you might be thinking, whether there's four hundred pages that
they get swallowed up quicker than you think. I promise,
And so I've got to find this. It is interesting,
like go back to like it. It's a lot of times, right,
go back to nineteen ninety three, right, go back to
nineteen ninety three, and I believe every Texas team I'm
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trying to trying to think back through my head. Uh,
I'm fairly certain that every Texas FBS team, with the
exception of UTAP, which was in the whack.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
Was in the same conference. Uh.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
And now they are scattered across so many different conferences
that it's going to be like impossible to keep track of.
It's it's still it's a wild to me that SMU
hosted Florida State last week. Like that's something that I
have a hard time time for getting my wrapping my
head around.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
But that's such as life, such as a stake.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
I will say, I think you're right, that doesn't make
sense from a geographic perspective that they, you know, out
there in the mountain out there in El Paso, they
have a lot more in common with you know, those
teams in the Mountain West than maybe they do with
teams even in their within their own state, like like Houston, Rice.
So it's a really interesting move. I think it's a
nice little, nice little payday for for UTAP, which is
probably why they're doing it, which is good. Now, I
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will say that if if Tarletan State moves up to
FBS and joins the MAC, I'm quitting, Like that's kind
of it. I'm just I'm done. That's going to be
the end of me. I will I will not write
a Mid American Conference preview in the magazine.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
You know, you speculated this, you ruminated on this back
in the summer.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
TEP.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
This might be what sets the magazine into that new
realm of beyond four hundred pages.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
It might just it might.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Just have to do that, right, It's been four hundred
pages for for for quite a while now. For those
who don't know, not to get too far in the
weeds of the of the mag of of how magazines
are made. But generally you have to add in increments
of sixteen generally how how printing works. So who knows,
maybe four hundred and sixteen pages. But there's just there's
a lot that I can get into about magazine production
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that nobody's interested in. But yeah, that was my first
thought whenever I saw the news about UTEP was oh good, now,
you know, now a gout to do a Midwest Amountain
West preview, which of course we've had before. You know,
TCU's won the month West a couple times, so not
necessarily unchared territory.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Are you thinking this is also going to be the
latest step in some other conference realignment? Might we see
Texas State wearing rumors and rumblings that they're being courted
by a number of conferences, perhaps even the PAC twelve,
that the Texas State all of a sudden may become
an attractive expansion candidate.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Yeah, there are a lot of kind of rumblings kind
of around the realignment, and I.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
Think that this was always going to be kind of
the next kind of ripple effects.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
You know, obviously, when Texas and Oklahoma moves the SEC
I really set off a number of different things.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
You know, kind of the arms race between the SEC
and the Big and the Big ten was.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Then on, which is probably why you got this big
You know that all these changes. But now I would
suggest to you that that there are these ripple effects
that have not yet nanified themselves in the quote unquote
you know, a group of five conferences, and I think
that's what you're going to see.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
You're going to see these these things come.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Together pretty quickly, with the Mountain West and the PAC
twelve trying to hold together as best they can.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
You know, now Conference USA.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Which has been kind of held together with duct tape
and rubber bands for a couple of years, now they're
going to be scrambling. This is going to be you know, look,
we've already more or less seen one conference in the
PAC twelve kind of certainly certainly demoted in stature. It
would not be a surprise to see another one at consolidation.
I think is the coin of the realm in college football.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Greg Temper, managing editor of Dave Campbell's Texas Football Magazine.
Whether it's during this program a portionmouth program, Okay.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Before we move to high school, I have to have
you ask another quier.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Are you making the from the Metroplex one hundred and
eighty mile road trip to see your alma mater, the
University of Missouri taken on the aggies of Texas A
and M this weekend.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
I'm not my actually in a strange a bit of
you know, kids mean, my wife is actually going to
be going up to Missouri for her twenty year high
school reunion.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
As I just date my wife on the radio, but she.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
She's going up there, and so I'm in charge of voice.
Uh so it'll be me, but it'll be It'll be
a good boys weekend. We're gonna order some pizza, We're
gonna watch some football, we'll have.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
It on the TV.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
But no, I will I will not be enjoying A
and M. And it's a very interesting game. I saw
that A and MS favored at home, which is really fascinating,
especially considering like the ranking disparity here. As you know,
Missoo's a top ten team and A and M just
now back into the top twenty five. But I do
think that there are some reasons to doubt if Miszoo
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is all that is a top ten type team. I
think that they need to get more from their quarterback.
And I think that this A and and deepen if
they play like they did last week against Arkansas, and
then we've got an opportunity to go in there and
really make a statement against what's what the top ten
Miszoo team as stamp and you know, would would certainly
be a feather in the cap of Mike.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
Altout early in his career.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Okay, all right, here's here's something I want to ask you.
Then you mentioned how unusual it might be, and I
completely agree with you by the way that Texas A
and M might be favored against Missouri even in college station,
that they might be favored as a result of that.
But I would ask you, what do you think would
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be more unlikely? I guess is the best word way
to describe it. What is more unlikely Texas A and
M to be favored to win a game over Missouri
or east Side Memorial of Austin favored by twelve points
according to the computer against Maynor Newtech on Friday night.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
I saw that.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Of course east Side Memorial just very very I think,
you know, happy to Stephen snap that long losing streak
fifty plus games. You know, just a terrific, terrific job
by Luis Passera there with the East Side, And yeah,
look when I talked with him in the off season,
before the season, I talked with him and a number
of other coaches who had been riding long, losing streets,
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and I kind of asked them, hey, look like what
would represent a good year for you guy? And a
lot of these guys, you know, they're they're talking in
terms of process and that result. They're talking about we
want our guys, we want to play ten games as
hard as we can, and we want to go out
there and see that personal growth, and we want to
bond in the team, we want to stick together, those
types of things. But I remember Luis Pisara being like, yeah,
I want to win like four games.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
Like this is a team that hadn't.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Won, you know, one game in seven years, and now
they're like, no, we want to go four and six
and maybe challenge for a playoff spot.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
I'll tell y'all, like.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
They're better, They're trending in a better way.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
And I think their defense, which is.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
Long than kind of a problem for them is you know, I.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Think they got a shot.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
I don't necessarily disagree with the computer. I think they
entered New Texas has struggled to start the year as well,
and I think that the East Side's got a great
shot to get a second win for the first time.
And what might be I would need to look it
might be a couple even more years.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Yeah, than what twenty seventeen. I guess is when we
were talking.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
About we might be talking like we might be talking
about the earlier part of the last decade before we
get into when they want two season, like.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
When they were still known as Johnston.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
Might have been. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
I remember doing a game in Week ten of the
regular season when the then Johnston Rams were actually in
considered mathematically alive to make the playoffs. Now they were
playing I think a McCallum and everybody on the planet
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knew that it was not going to go well, and
even if they won, some weird thing had.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
To happen and other things.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
But because they were mathematically alive, we put them on
our game of the week here on the Zone. This
is like the two thousand and eight or nine or
something like that. It was very first time we put
them on because the first time we had real reason
to put them on. Mathematically they had a shot to
get in, so we we put them on. They didn't
go well, they lost them all that other kind of stuff.
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But you're right, it may it may go back. As
opposed to a couple of the headline games, I'll just
narrow it to two. Ask for your analysis of these
two games, and ask which one you would rather attend
DBT and Ryan against Aledo number one versus number two
in the state in five A Division one or according
to the computer, number one and number two in the
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state in six A, which would be a task Casida
and Summer Creek.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
It's an amazing week of high school football because this
is the biggest open date of the year.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
There are It's something like.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
More than a third of the UIL eleven man teams
are off this week, like it is a massive week
of bie weeks. And then by the way, in two
weeks we'll have another one as basically every six man
team in the state takes the week off.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
But what's what's funny is that even.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
With kind of fewer games, only five and twenty games
this week, wo is us there's the upper crust might
be the best we've seen all season, and you mentioned
the top two, you know, Alito.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
And Debt Ryan. My pick is probably to go to.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
A task two in summer creak, and I'll explain why.
But but Alito and Debt Ryan absolutely fascinating for a
ton of reasons. Obviously number one versus number two. Obviously
what Aledo has been able to do, you know, as
far as winning state championships.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
The playmakers that they've got.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
I think that the real money matchup here is it
Ryan defense, which has been so good all year up
against kind of the home run hitters like Racing Guillory
for Aledo. But but I mean lost in all that
is that by the time these two teams tee it up,
it will be six thousand, two hundred and nine days
since Aledo last lost the district game. Their last district lost.
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They won one hundred and twenty two in a row.
It's the most in Texas high school football history by
fifty games.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
They have just they've just been absolutely dominant.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
And what is amazing to me is that like when
they last lost, they you know where they weren't election season.
I'm sure people have noticed the last time that Alito
lost the district game the President of the United States
was George W.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
Bush.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
It's been a long time since they lost the playoffs
a district game, which is what makes Ryan's climb so steep.
But for a task gait the Summer Creek, this game
is box office. It's kind of the first of that
kind of round robin of doom in District twenty three
to six A with these two teams in Glena Park
North Shore.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
You know, we talked about a task.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
And the resume they have with wins over Westlake and
Katie both on the road. Their offense has been absolutely
terrific and their defense has been good as well, but
it pales in comparison. I mean this sincerely, it pales
in comparison to the defense that Summer Creek is rolling
out there. They have outscored their four opponents two hundred
and fifteen to d row. They have not allowed a
point in four games, and their defense chadwood Fork, Brandon Jones,
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their defense is outrageous. And I do think that their quarterback,
Blake Thomas, has.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
Really made that step.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
This is this is one of those games that I
think has it's good enough to be like a regional final,
and we get it in week six of the season.
I think a Task to See is probably a slight favorite,
just because I think they're a little bit more battle tested.
But for a quote unquote slow week in Texas high
school football, you've got two monster matchups at the very
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top of the slate that are going to be just
box office.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
And for the greater Austin area, I would say probably
the best matchup would be Cedar Park against Rals, unless
you're talking about east Side Memorial against me and or
New Tech.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
Yeah, you could go with that one too.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
It's not a bad week in Austin, but.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
A lot of a lot of the teams are off.
I would maybe look at another game.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
You know, there's a couple other games in the Austin
area that intrigued me, you know, most notably, I'm interested
to see what LBJ does against against Austin Travis. I
think Austin Travis at four and one is off to
a fantastic start. I want to see how for real
of that. And then you mentioned it Cedar Park and
Leander Rouse an absolutely critical game. Industry eight five A
Division one where there's really no margin for error for any.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Team, no doubt.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
He's Greg Tepper managing editor of Dave Campbell's Texas Football
magazine and co host along with me and Aaron Hartigan
on High School Scoreboard Live Friday nights at ten thirty TEP.
Appreciate the time, and and we'll look forward to By
the way, how did your twenty year high school reunion go?
Speaker 2 (16:04):
You had that, didn't you? Last weekend? I did.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
I had my twenty year high school reunion last weekend.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
It was. It went very well. Everyone was very nice.
It was good to good to catch up with people.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
I'm shocked and surprised at the number of people who
actually do watch TV. I thought that that was just
kind of on closed circuit TV. But you're like, hey,
you're going to TV thing right, I'm like, how do
you know about that? But that was that was great.
The one thing that they did, which I thought was
extremely rude is that they put our senior portraits on
our name tags. I've been trying to I've been trying
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to run from that photo for twenty.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
Years, and they maybe put it on my chest. It
was pretty tough.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Ooh boy, all right, we'll live it down somehow. Hey,
thanks for the time, TAP, appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
Right, Take care all right.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
That's Greg Tapper, managing editor Dave Campbell's Texas Football magazine.
We'll update the baseball for you, and here from Rodney Terry,
Texas fan's basketball coach.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
When we continue on Sports Radio AM thirteen under the Zone.