October 8, 2024 • 20 mins
Greg Tepper, managing editor of Dave Campbells Texas Football Magazine, joins the show to talk about the latest in Texas College Football including Texas A&M's perfect start to SEC play. Plus, a look at TX High School Football including the massive DeSoto vs Duncanview game.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And that means Greg Tapper, managing editor or Dave Campbells
Texas Football Magazine joins us and also co host along
with Aaron Hartigan and Yours truly in a High School
Scoreboard live Friday nights on Ballet Sports Southwest. I have
to start with your guys' weekend because your wife is
out of town at a twenty year high school reunion.
You had this great weekend set up with your boys
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and then you were gonna just can settle in and
watch football, including your beloved alma mater, the University of Missouri,
and you take it from there.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Yeah, it went great.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Luckily, the boys were a little busy in the morning
and so I wasn't able to watch the Zoo game live,
but I checked it at halftime and then I was like, well,
I ready to watch that, and sure enough I didn't.
But we had a great weekend with the boys, and
I instilled in them a very important thing. And I'm
sure that you have did this with your kids well,
which is goes out of town. And you know, we
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had a great time to do whatever we want. Dad's
letting the watch movies, got to pick out our dinner.
We're having a great time, and then we went we
had to you know, got the Sunday We're picking up
Mom at the airport. And so we were eating donuts
on Sunday morning, because again Dad's in charge, and I
set the boys down over donuts.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
I said, guys, we had a good time this weekend.
They said, yeah, yeah, we've had a great time. I said, okay,
would you like to do the skin something?
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Yeah, and I said, okay, it's critical that we stick
the landing of then okay. So it spent about ninety
minutes cleaning up the house, making sure the house is clean.
Hank made a sign for mommy to pick up at
the airports and welcome home Mommy. We got flowers that
were waiting for her at the gate. So all the
boys like they understood the assignment of like, look, if
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we had a good time this weekend, and we ever
want something like this to possibly happen again, we got
to make sure that mom is having a good time too,
that she's coming home to a clean house and feeling.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Like she can leave whenever whatever she needs to. So
the boy understood.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
The assignment there, and I'm very I'm very proud of them,
and hopefully that will make for more more dudes weekends
down the road.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Nice okay, all right, well done, absolutely well done. All right,
let's let's let's discuss it from an analytical standpoint, not
just A and M's win over Missouri, uh, but but
also that mess that happened in Fort Worth with with
TC and Houston, not a mess for Houston, but certainly
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for TCU uh Baylorman up Tiwa state that.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
Did not go well. How about your thoughts on the review?
Speaker 1 (02:33):
But SMU, of course uh got it got a nice
road win at Louisville. So how about your review of
college football as it relates to the teams in the
lone star state that happened this weekend heading into this
week's rather large weekend.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Yeah, it did seem like the word would be boom
or bust.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
It's really what what the standard Texas would kind of
defined as last week. You know, obviously, you know you
had teams that that went out there and and did
you know, took care of business right they you know,
Texas A and M.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
I don't think they have any notes about what about
what they did.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
They were absolutely fantastic and their win over over you know,
Missouri and and really took it to them like, not
fluky at all. They were the better team from from
you know, from tip to tail. Awfully impressive from them.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Uh. You also had I think sbu their win over Louisville.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
They're not five and one very I think, very quietly
and kind of kind of I think, rounded into what
we thought they could be.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
I think they figured out that Kevin Jennings is the
guy at.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Quarterback and that has really kind of made things a
lot easier for them. That's one thing that I think
it is usually I think Texas States win on Thursday
night over over Troy represents a.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Boom for them. Sam Houston dominated UTEP.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
I know UTEP's struggling right now or under their new
coach book, but I mean you go out there and
and certainly looked like you've made that lead there five
and one, and then I think that obviously the best
result under WILLI Fritz. And then you had kind of
the other side of it, right Baylor. I thought, I
don't want to use the word the Q word, but
there were some I thought I saw some quit in
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the second half of that game against Iowa State. It
was not ready there in the second half. I thought
that they were disappointing obviously, TCU that that caught that
national championship games now seems like a long long time ago. Uh,
that's that's very disappointing as well, you know, And but
you know, the only team that I would say was
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probably in the middle would be a team like Texas Tech,
which of course kicked off ten o'clock uh od R
thirty in Arizona. They came away with the win and
road winds have been very hard to come by under
the under Joey McGuire.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
I don't know it's the prettiest win.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
But you'll look up and they're five and one, and
they're three in zero conference play, and you're thinking, okay,
like in a big twelve that I think is still
way up in the air, Texas Tech has established themselves
as a team that that should be recordless. So I
think that there that the weekend of college football across
state was was really defined. You either had a great
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week or you had a week that you're you're desperate
to forget about.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
How about Sam Houston also continuing to win and doing
their job out in UH and they'll pass so that uten, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Kid, I think you need to give a ton of
credit to Ksey Heeler and company. I mean, they're one
loss on the year is the u c F, which
is I mean it's a big twelve team. I mean
that's that's a Power five our four team. Uh, you know,
on the road elsewhere, they just take care of business,
including that that remarkable win over Texas State, which I
think is going to air is going to age particularly well.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
And then by the way, you.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Know, I don't want to start you know, you know,
writing checks that they don't intend on cashing. But like,
look at the rest of their schedule and look at
the rest of the conference. USA Liberty looms the end
of the season. But like nasaf State has looked very bad,
they still have they still have Jacksonville State on the schedule. Uh,
they still have Louisiana Tech, who's won.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
In three Uh. You know, FIU is struggling significantly.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
This is a this is a Sam Houston team that
you do not have to squint hard to see them,
not just in a bowl at five and one, but
very comfortably in a bowl. And I think that that
is a credit, especially considering you take a look at
what they did last year where they it feels like
they just lost every close game. It does feel like
they have kind of removed some of that doubt and
I think really made that step towards kind of FBS legitimacy.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
Yeah, you went right where I was going.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Next, the fact that last year down in these parts,
what we heard was all about how Texas State the
goal was get to a bowl, get to a bowl,
find a way get to a bowl for the first time.
And they did and they won it, and it was
and it was really cool that they were able to
do it. And I'm hearing these exact same things for
Sam Houston. And incidentally, here's North Texas at four and
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one and they go back to work, they go down
to FAU this week, and they've got Temple at home,
so they've got a chance to get to bowl eligibly,
which and I know Eric Morris has said that it's
really important for his program in the second season to
establish I.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Think it's really important to recognize I think for especially
for fans of Texas and fans of Texas A and M,
where a bowl is just like I mean, if you
were to go to if you were to go seven
and five and make a bowl game, that would be
considered you know, oh, we need to make coaching change.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
I don't think you need to worry about that, you know.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
You know that's something that Texas in the a M
fans the standard is different. I think at a place
like sam Houston, a place like Texas State, making a bowl,
big stinking deal. And and for Sam Houston, if they
were able to go and make a bowl for the
first time in that program's you know, short FBS history,
that would be a real feather in the cap of
Casey Heeler and you you would talk about how he
has officially transitioned to that team from from SEF to FBS,
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which is a bigger lead than I think people realize,
and they have done it, you know, in a short
period of time, and I think that that would be
a reason reason to celebrate out there in Huntsville.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Talking football across the State of Texas with Greg Tepper,
Managing editor Dave Canbi's Texas Football Magazine. Okay, let's jump
to high school and first of all, before we get
into some of the heavyweight matchups and things like that,
as promised, you have reinstalled Alito as your number one
team in the state. In five a Division one. That
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was kind of an elementary fault. You beat number one?
What was it, Rick Clair, be the man? You got
to beat the man, that kind of deal. And they
did that, and then but you Adam leap frog or
had them go from number two to number one there
because of the win when there's plenty of other good
contenders there that are hanging around right around them, and
some even unbeaten.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Look, I mean Alito's loss is to Dtengeier, which is
still a state ranked sixt eighteen. And then they go
out there and when they are one hundred and twenty
thirty consecutive, is your game?
Speaker 2 (08:38):
You know?
Speaker 3 (08:38):
And come from behind fashion against Dent Ryan? And yeah,
I think that it's kind of new boss. Name is
the old boss?
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Right? I mean this is kind of, you know, par
for the course for Aledo.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
This is the program of record in five A Division one,
and right now they are the team to beat there.
That's not to say that I think they're invincible. That's
not to say that I think that are not teams
that could go and get them. And I would be
interested in seeing a potential rematch with Dean Ryan. Should
you know, should that manifest himself in five eight Division one.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
What I will say though, is that when you.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Take a look at at five A Division one, you know,
first still lone Stars look good and in Facoliity of
course has been great.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Richland still works in their own district.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
But I think that you know, Alito has got to
be the team because then they I think they they
showed you why on Friday Night that they are just
so darn hard to beat.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
The thing.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
The thing about them is there a few teams in
Texas high school but boys say about the way to
beat them that you just have to keep punching. You
have to keep throwing haymakers over and over and over
until the clock runs out. And when you think that
they're they're down, you better keep throwing punches because they are.
They are just that hard to beat for any team,
let alone five Envision one.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
Hey, you're from the video game era?
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Is it kind of like that Mike Tyson punch out
thing where you just have to keep counting it over
and over and over again?
Speaker 4 (09:55):
Is that the deal? They are not.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
They are not Glass Joe.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
They are Mike Tyson at the end to this, they
are there the final boss in five.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
A Division one, And I think they proved it again
on Friday night.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
Complete this sentence.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
For me, the most definite number one team in the state,
regardless of classification in their classification, the most definite number
one in their own classification right now is boy.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
I could be a real hipster and I could tell
you like Jaydon in one A Division two, but I
might go with Solina and what they've done in four
A Division one, as I think just the the you know,
the record of the program that the the other six
and zero they keep on rolling another big one over Aubrey.
They look like the party. Especially you know, Stevenville lost
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to a team from Louisiana Russell Louisiana that would probably
felt like the chief challenger. It's funny that probably the
second best team I would mention in that would be
a team like Gunner, even though they have two losses.
But for now, if you're looking for the team to beat,
the team that is probably most far ahead of their
of their maybe the second or third place team, I
would say probably Solina. Columbus might have an argument as well,
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but I do think that three and vision one has
a depth to it at the upper tier that that
may give Columbus in trouble at someone.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Okay, all right, So on the opposite end of that,
let me ask you this, what state ranked team that
you have in your top ten, in one of the
top tens, regardless other classification, which state ranked team is
the most overlooked yet dangerous if you can have an
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overlooked top ten ranked team.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Yeah, it's it's a good point, boy man.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
All right, let me let me let me do that.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
No, no, no, no, no, I got one.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
But I think people are gonna people are gonna roll
their eyes when I say it. Oh, it might be
it might be Allen. Allen is five and oh, and
I think it's one of those teams that we kind
of forgot about, but Lee Wigginton has got them rolling
right now.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Five and Oh they look the part.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
And a team that we just have not talked about,
I think because six A Division one has been dominated
by Duncansville and North Shore and you added and team
like North Crowley of the ven New Shines. Oh, it's
has to see a look what they're doing, right and look,
Travis think things that those were and Allen kind of
went away from the Uppercross for a few years, but
they're back in a big, big way.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
That is a team there.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
The other only team I would mention there, and I
think it's just because of geography and because of like
relatively recent history is Galveston Ball. Jonah Williams Texas commit
is UH. He's just remarkable, just a remarkable player, and
that whole team is excellent.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
And for them to go out there and dominate Pork Memorial.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Last week as a team in five A Division, one
that I think is overlooked simply because they're down in
Galveston County. They're they're kind of off the beaten past,
so to speak, but they are for real. And I
would say that that those are probably the two teams
that you want to talk about overlook one that has
plenty of of you know, made cachet and another one in.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Ball that people may not realize plays football.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Yeah, okay, all right, And then like I like you
like to put it, the meanest thing we do each week,
we give you usually three games, but really and truly,
I really think for the second straight week we're just
talking about one of two games that stand alone. And
so you have a choice between them Duncan Vilde Soto
and UH, and that that would be one of them
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and Uh. And then the the other major matchup that
I would have you consider would be in h five
A Division one, is it? Yeah, well it's a five
A Division one matchup, but it's a it's a five
A Division one team UH in a non district game
or no. Five A Division one district game. Richland and
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Dent Ryan.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
With all the respect of Dent and Ryan and Richland,
which is a fun, really interesting game. And I don't
see if Ryan and bounce back and not let one
loss be to twice. That's a big question here. It's
gotta be the Soto and Duncanville. I mean, it's gotta be.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
This is the two.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
This is the two back to back to fending six
A state champion playing one another with star power out
the wazoo. Like there's gonna be like twenty FBS players
on the field on Friday night in DeSoto. We got
a report from somewhere in De Soto that they've already
got like one hundred and forty people who have requested
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credentials for this game. It is an outrageous, outrageous game
that I think is you know, is.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Going to be a massive game.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
It's become a big rivalry, you know, in a weird way,
even though like there's no playoff implications here. DeSoto very
comfortably going to Vision two, Duncanville very comfortably going to
Vision one. But I think that last year's DeSoto win
over Duncanville has kind of reignited that kind of rivalry.
So I think Duncan's kind of sick hearing about THEODA
because Destota was pounderful found the best team in Taxasise
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FOOTBA last year and for my money, the best team
in America last year. And I think they're tired of
hearing about it, and here's an opportunity to shut them up.
But for De Soto, it's proof that, hey, like things
have changed permanently here. And I think the other thing
I'll just say about it, this is not for the
faint of heart.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
This is going to be a shootout.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
This game is going to be in the high thirties,
the forties, fifties. I mean, the teams are going to
score in bunches for two reasons. One, they've got a
ton of playmakers on the offensive side who are going
to high power five teams.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
But also, like the defenses, the weaker of the two
units on both these teams.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
So I think I'm absolutely fascinated by this ball game,
and I think it's it's is by far the biggest
game of Sea.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
Yeah, I'm in agreement with you.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
The only wrinkle that I have to emotionally mentally get
past is the fact that that other other than bragging
rights and where it lands in your top ten, the
game means nothing.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
Nothing.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Yeah, Because I will tell you that's the thing that
I think Richland and Ryan has is that if we
believe that Alito's gonna win the district, and they won
one hundred and twenty three consecutive district game, so.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
I think we have reasonably they will.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
Yeah, consider this the loser of Ryan and Richland is
on the road in the first round of playoffs.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Yeah, like that is a real thing that matters.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
You're going to beat You're playing for third place then,
And so I think I think from a stake's perspective,
the States are the highest in Richard and Ryan, but
it's hard to pass up to sod them.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
See if you can follow me on this, this is
how I see the Soda Duncan Hill. There's a distinct
possibility that Army and Navy could wind up playing for
the American Conference Championship this year. They could they could
even possibly both be unbeaten. They're both unbeaten. They're both
five and zero for the first time since nineteen forty
five when Army won the National Championship, navs us to
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play Notre Dame.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
So but even if they lose, you.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Could have a twelve to zero and an eleven to one,
and they could be the top two teams of the
American and they could wind up playing in the American
Conference Championship game, which carries with it all the stakes
of landing a spot in the twelve team playoff. They
could be the highest ranked G five team and then
the next week they play each other in the regular
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season game and it won't mean anything except that it's
Army versus Navy. So that game, if it, if it
happens like that is exactly like Duncan Bvildesota this week.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Yeah, that's that's actually a good a good callback.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
And on that And by the way, I'll also just
say this, if it gets to the point where it's like,
let's just say Navy beats Notre Dame, not outside the
Reuman possibility, Notre dame, right, I think Army and Navy
should both be in the playoffs. I'll just say that,
like like, I mean, if we expanded the playoff for
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the reasons that people will want to tell you that
we spanded the playoff. And if you've got two twelve
and no teams going to their conference championship game, and
let's say they split the two games. Even though I
think there's a thing that Army Navy will have no
playoff implications, you should put a book the playoff.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Like, let's be intellectually honest here.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
Yeah, well, you you bring up a good.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Point, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Yeah, yeah, Well, the first meeting, if they meet for
the American Conference championship, that has relevance because the winner
is going to probably be the highest rated G five
and get in. You would have that if the if
you do have a twelve to zero and eleven in one,
you know, we'll see what happens with Boise, We'll see
what happens with Liberty and so on.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
All right, so that would have relevance.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Then all of a sudden, I think you have unearthed
relevance of the next week, because then whoever loses Game
one seeding the conference championship and a slot in the
playoff to the winner might have a chance to grab
it at large next week. But no, no, that they wouldn't.
That's right, because they've already they've already set the playoff
by then.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
I will say, if let's say it's a competitive aac
talium and yes, we turned this into you know, turns
into service academy here. If I think Army Navy should
both be in the playoff, that is my offic as
the official stance, and I'll speak on behalf of Dave
Campbell's Texas Football too.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
If it's if it's if they pinched.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
The regular season thirteen and oh and twelve and one
going to Army Navy, Uh, they should be in the
Uh they should both be in the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
Okay, I'm with you on that. All right.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
He's Greg Temper, managing editor Dave Campbell's Texas Football Magazine.
Join us weekly for Service Academy talk here on the
program next week we'll discuss whatever happened to Air Force.
All right, Hey, thanks, and I'll see you on Friday night.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Looking forward to my friend.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
All right, that's Greg Temper there. Imagine if that happened. There,
aren't we Navy I did two twelve and Oh's going
into that. God couldn't happen, right, Who knows. We'll have
more coming up on Sports Radio AM thirteen nine of
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And that means Greg Tapper, managing editor or Dave Campbells
Texas Football Magazine joins us and also co host along
with Aaron Hartigan and Yours truly in a High School
Scoreboard live Friday nights on Ballet Sports Southwest. I have
to start with your guys' weekend because your wife is
out of town at a twenty year high school reunion.
You had this great weekend set up with your boys
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and then you were gonna just can settle in and
watch football, including your beloved alma mater, the University of Missouri,
and you take it from there.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Yeah, it went great.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Luckily, the boys were a little busy in the morning
and so I wasn't able to watch the Zoo game live,
but I checked it at halftime and then I was like, well,
I ready to watch that, and sure enough I didn't.
But we had a great weekend with the boys, and
I instilled in them a very important thing. And I'm
sure that you have did this with your kids well,
which is goes out of town. And you know, we
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had a great time to do whatever we want. Dad's
letting the watch movies, got to pick out our dinner.
We're having a great time, and then we went we
had to you know, got the Sunday We're picking up
Mom at the airport. And so we were eating donuts
on Sunday morning, because again Dad's in charge, and I
set the boys down over donuts.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
I said, guys, we had a good time this weekend.
They said, yeah, yeah, we've had a great time. I said, okay,
would you like to do the skin something?
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Yeah, and I said, okay, it's critical that we stick
the landing of then okay. So it spent about ninety
minutes cleaning up the house, making sure the house is clean.
Hank made a sign for mommy to pick up at
the airports and welcome home Mommy. We got flowers that
were waiting for her at the gate. So all the
boys like they understood the assignment of like, look, if
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we had a good time this weekend, and we ever
want something like this to possibly happen again, we got
to make sure that mom is having a good time too,
that she's coming home to a clean house and feeling.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Like she can leave whenever whatever she needs to. So
the boy understood.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
The assignment there, and I'm very I'm very proud of them,
and hopefully that will make for more more dudes weekends
down the road.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Nice okay, all right, well done, absolutely well done. All right,
let's let's let's discuss it from an analytical standpoint, not
just A and M's win over Missouri, uh, but but
also that mess that happened in Fort Worth with with
TC and Houston, not a mess for Houston, but certainly
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for TCU uh Baylorman up Tiwa state that.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
Did not go well. How about your thoughts on the review?
Speaker 1 (02:33):
But SMU, of course uh got it got a nice
road win at Louisville. So how about your review of
college football as it relates to the teams in the
lone star state that happened this weekend heading into this
week's rather large weekend.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Yeah, it did seem like the word would be boom
or bust.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
It's really what what the standard Texas would kind of
defined as last week. You know, obviously, you know you
had teams that that went out there and and did
you know, took care of business right they you know,
Texas A and M.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
I don't think they have any notes about what about
what they did.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
They were absolutely fantastic and their win over over you know,
Missouri and and really took it to them like, not
fluky at all. They were the better team from from
you know, from tip to tail. Awfully impressive from them.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Uh. You also had I think sbu their win over Louisville.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
They're not five and one very I think, very quietly
and kind of kind of I think, rounded into what
we thought they could be.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
I think they figured out that Kevin Jennings is the
guy at.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Quarterback and that has really kind of made things a
lot easier for them. That's one thing that I think
it is usually I think Texas States win on Thursday
night over over Troy represents a.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Boom for them. Sam Houston dominated UTEP.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
I know UTEP's struggling right now or under their new
coach book, but I mean you go out there and
and certainly looked like you've made that lead there five
and one, and then I think that obviously the best
result under WILLI Fritz. And then you had kind of
the other side of it, right Baylor. I thought, I
don't want to use the word the Q word, but
there were some I thought I saw some quit in
(04:05):
the second half of that game against Iowa State. It
was not ready there in the second half. I thought
that they were disappointing obviously, TCU that that caught that
national championship games now seems like a long long time ago. Uh,
that's that's very disappointing as well, you know, And but
you know, the only team that I would say was
(04:25):
probably in the middle would be a team like Texas Tech,
which of course kicked off ten o'clock uh od R
thirty in Arizona. They came away with the win and
road winds have been very hard to come by under
the under Joey McGuire.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
I don't know it's the prettiest win.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
But you'll look up and they're five and one, and
they're three in zero conference play, and you're thinking, okay,
like in a big twelve that I think is still
way up in the air, Texas Tech has established themselves
as a team that that should be recordless. So I
think that there that the weekend of college football across
state was was really defined. You either had a great
(05:01):
week or you had a week that you're you're desperate
to forget about.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
How about Sam Houston also continuing to win and doing
their job out in UH and they'll pass so that uten, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Kid, I think you need to give a ton of
credit to Ksey Heeler and company. I mean, they're one
loss on the year is the u c F, which
is I mean it's a big twelve team. I mean
that's that's a Power five our four team. Uh, you know,
on the road elsewhere, they just take care of business,
including that that remarkable win over Texas State, which I
think is going to air is going to age particularly well.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
And then by the way, you.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Know, I don't want to start you know, you know,
writing checks that they don't intend on cashing. But like,
look at the rest of their schedule and look at
the rest of the conference. USA Liberty looms the end
of the season. But like nasaf State has looked very bad,
they still have they still have Jacksonville State on the schedule. Uh,
they still have Louisiana Tech, who's won.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
In three Uh. You know, FIU is struggling significantly.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
This is a this is a Sam Houston team that
you do not have to squint hard to see them,
not just in a bowl at five and one, but
very comfortably in a bowl. And I think that that
is a credit, especially considering you take a look at
what they did last year where they it feels like
they just lost every close game. It does feel like
they have kind of removed some of that doubt and
I think really made that step towards kind of FBS legitimacy.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
Yeah, you went right where I was going.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Next, the fact that last year down in these parts,
what we heard was all about how Texas State the
goal was get to a bowl, get to a bowl,
find a way get to a bowl for the first time.
And they did and they won it, and it was
and it was really cool that they were able to
do it. And I'm hearing these exact same things for
Sam Houston. And incidentally, here's North Texas at four and
(06:44):
one and they go back to work, they go down
to FAU this week, and they've got Temple at home,
so they've got a chance to get to bowl eligibly,
which and I know Eric Morris has said that it's
really important for his program in the second season to
establish I.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Think it's really important to recognize I think for especially
for fans of Texas and fans of Texas A and M,
where a bowl is just like I mean, if you
were to go to if you were to go seven
and five and make a bowl game, that would be
considered you know, oh, we need to make coaching change.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
I don't think you need to worry about that, you know.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
You know that's something that Texas in the a M
fans the standard is different. I think at a place
like sam Houston, a place like Texas State, making a bowl,
big stinking deal. And and for Sam Houston, if they
were able to go and make a bowl for the
first time in that program's you know, short FBS history,
that would be a real feather in the cap of
Casey Heeler and you you would talk about how he
has officially transitioned to that team from from SEF to FBS,
(07:38):
which is a bigger lead than I think people realize,
and they have done it, you know, in a short
period of time, and I think that that would be
a reason reason to celebrate out there in Huntsville.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Talking football across the State of Texas with Greg Tepper,
Managing editor Dave Canbi's Texas Football Magazine. Okay, let's jump
to high school and first of all, before we get
into some of the heavyweight matchups and things like that,
as promised, you have reinstalled Alito as your number one
team in the state. In five a Division one. That
(08:09):
was kind of an elementary fault. You beat number one?
What was it, Rick Clair, be the man? You got
to beat the man, that kind of deal. And they
did that, and then but you Adam leap frog or
had them go from number two to number one there
because of the win when there's plenty of other good
contenders there that are hanging around right around them, and
some even unbeaten.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Look, I mean Alito's loss is to Dtengeier, which is
still a state ranked sixt eighteen. And then they go
out there and when they are one hundred and twenty
thirty consecutive, is your game?
Speaker 2 (08:38):
You know?
Speaker 3 (08:38):
And come from behind fashion against Dent Ryan? And yeah,
I think that it's kind of new boss. Name is
the old boss?
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Right? I mean this is kind of, you know, par
for the course for Aledo.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
This is the program of record in five A Division one,
and right now they are the team to beat there.
That's not to say that I think they're invincible. That's
not to say that I think that are not teams
that could go and get them. And I would be
interested in seeing a potential rematch with Dean Ryan. Should
you know, should that manifest himself in five eight Division one.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
What I will say though, is that when you.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Take a look at at five A Division one, you know,
first still lone Stars look good and in Facoliity of
course has been great.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Richland still works in their own district.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
But I think that you know, Alito has got to
be the team because then they I think they they
showed you why on Friday Night that they are just
so darn hard to beat.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
The thing.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
The thing about them is there a few teams in
Texas high school but boys say about the way to
beat them that you just have to keep punching. You
have to keep throwing haymakers over and over and over
until the clock runs out. And when you think that
they're they're down, you better keep throwing punches because they are.
They are just that hard to beat for any team,
let alone five Envision one.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
Hey, you're from the video game era?
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Is it kind of like that Mike Tyson punch out
thing where you just have to keep counting it over
and over and over again?
Speaker 4 (09:55):
Is that the deal? They are not.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
They are not Glass Joe.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
They are Mike Tyson at the end to this, they
are there the final boss in five.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
A Division one, And I think they proved it again
on Friday night.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
Complete this sentence.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
For me, the most definite number one team in the state,
regardless of classification in their classification, the most definite number
one in their own classification right now is boy.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
I could be a real hipster and I could tell
you like Jaydon in one A Division two, but I
might go with Solina and what they've done in four
A Division one, as I think just the the you know,
the record of the program that the the other six
and zero they keep on rolling another big one over Aubrey.
They look like the party. Especially you know, Stevenville lost
(10:44):
to a team from Louisiana Russell Louisiana that would probably
felt like the chief challenger. It's funny that probably the
second best team I would mention in that would be
a team like Gunner, even though they have two losses.
But for now, if you're looking for the team to beat,
the team that is probably most far ahead of their
of their maybe the second or third place team, I
would say probably Solina. Columbus might have an argument as well,
(11:08):
but I do think that three and vision one has
a depth to it at the upper tier that that
may give Columbus in trouble at someone.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Okay, all right, So on the opposite end of that,
let me ask you this, what state ranked team that
you have in your top ten, in one of the
top tens, regardless other classification, which state ranked team is
the most overlooked yet dangerous if you can have an
(11:36):
overlooked top ten ranked team.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Yeah, it's it's a good point, boy man.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
All right, let me let me let me do that.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
No, no, no, no, no, I got one.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
But I think people are gonna people are gonna roll
their eyes when I say it. Oh, it might be
it might be Allen. Allen is five and oh, and
I think it's one of those teams that we kind
of forgot about, but Lee Wigginton has got them rolling
right now.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Five and Oh they look the part.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
And a team that we just have not talked about,
I think because six A Division one has been dominated
by Duncansville and North Shore and you added and team
like North Crowley of the ven New Shines. Oh, it's
has to see a look what they're doing, right and look,
Travis think things that those were and Allen kind of
went away from the Uppercross for a few years, but
they're back in a big, big way.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
That is a team there.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
The other only team I would mention there, and I
think it's just because of geography and because of like
relatively recent history is Galveston Ball. Jonah Williams Texas commit
is UH. He's just remarkable, just a remarkable player, and
that whole team is excellent.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
And for them to go out there and dominate Pork Memorial.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Last week as a team in five A Division, one
that I think is overlooked simply because they're down in
Galveston County. They're they're kind of off the beaten past,
so to speak, but they are for real. And I
would say that that those are probably the two teams
that you want to talk about overlook one that has
plenty of of you know, made cachet and another one in.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Ball that people may not realize plays football.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Yeah, okay, all right, And then like I like you
like to put it, the meanest thing we do each week,
we give you usually three games, but really and truly,
I really think for the second straight week we're just
talking about one of two games that stand alone. And
so you have a choice between them Duncan Vilde Soto
and UH, and that that would be one of them
(13:30):
and Uh. And then the the other major matchup that
I would have you consider would be in h five
A Division one, is it? Yeah, well it's a five
A Division one matchup, but it's a it's a five
A Division one team UH in a non district game
or no. Five A Division one district game. Richland and
(13:52):
Dent Ryan.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
With all the respect of Dent and Ryan and Richland,
which is a fun, really interesting game. And I don't
see if Ryan and bounce back and not let one
loss be to twice. That's a big question here. It's
gotta be the Soto and Duncanville. I mean, it's gotta be.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
This is the two.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
This is the two back to back to fending six
A state champion playing one another with star power out
the wazoo. Like there's gonna be like twenty FBS players
on the field on Friday night in DeSoto. We got
a report from somewhere in De Soto that they've already
got like one hundred and forty people who have requested
(14:32):
credentials for this game. It is an outrageous, outrageous game
that I think is you know, is.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Going to be a massive game.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
It's become a big rivalry, you know, in a weird way,
even though like there's no playoff implications here. DeSoto very
comfortably going to Vision two, Duncanville very comfortably going to
Vision one. But I think that last year's DeSoto win
over Duncanville has kind of reignited that kind of rivalry.
So I think Duncan's kind of sick hearing about THEODA
because Destota was pounderful found the best team in Taxasise
(15:03):
FOOTBA last year and for my money, the best team
in America last year. And I think they're tired of
hearing about it, and here's an opportunity to shut them up.
But for De Soto, it's proof that, hey, like things
have changed permanently here. And I think the other thing
I'll just say about it, this is not for the
faint of heart.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
This is going to be a shootout.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
This game is going to be in the high thirties,
the forties, fifties. I mean, the teams are going to
score in bunches for two reasons. One, they've got a
ton of playmakers on the offensive side who are going
to high power five teams.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
But also, like the defenses, the weaker of the two
units on both these teams.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
So I think I'm absolutely fascinated by this ball game,
and I think it's it's is by far the biggest
game of Sea.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
Yeah, I'm in agreement with you.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
The only wrinkle that I have to emotionally mentally get
past is the fact that that other other than bragging
rights and where it lands in your top ten, the
game means nothing.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
Nothing.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Yeah, Because I will tell you that's the thing that
I think Richland and Ryan has is that if we
believe that Alito's gonna win the district, and they won
one hundred and twenty three consecutive district game, so.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
I think we have reasonably they will.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
Yeah, consider this the loser of Ryan and Richland is
on the road in the first round of playoffs.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Yeah, like that is a real thing that matters.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
You're going to beat You're playing for third place then,
And so I think I think from a stake's perspective,
the States are the highest in Richard and Ryan, but
it's hard to pass up to sod them.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
See if you can follow me on this, this is
how I see the Soda Duncan Hill. There's a distinct
possibility that Army and Navy could wind up playing for
the American Conference Championship this year. They could they could
even possibly both be unbeaten. They're both unbeaten. They're both
five and zero for the first time since nineteen forty
five when Army won the National Championship, navs us to
(17:00):
play Notre Dame.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
So but even if they lose, you.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Could have a twelve to zero and an eleven to one,
and they could be the top two teams of the
American and they could wind up playing in the American
Conference Championship game, which carries with it all the stakes
of landing a spot in the twelve team playoff. They
could be the highest ranked G five team and then
the next week they play each other in the regular
(17:24):
season game and it won't mean anything except that it's
Army versus Navy. So that game, if it, if it
happens like that is exactly like Duncan Bvildesota this week.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Yeah, that's that's actually a good a good callback.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
And on that And by the way, I'll also just
say this, if it gets to the point where it's like,
let's just say Navy beats Notre Dame, not outside the
Reuman possibility, Notre dame, right, I think Army and Navy
should both be in the playoffs. I'll just say that,
like like, I mean, if we expanded the playoff for
(18:01):
the reasons that people will want to tell you that
we spanded the playoff. And if you've got two twelve
and no teams going to their conference championship game, and
let's say they split the two games. Even though I
think there's a thing that Army Navy will have no
playoff implications, you should put a book the playoff.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Like, let's be intellectually honest here.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
Yeah, well, you you bring up a good.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Point, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Yeah, yeah, Well, the first meeting, if they meet for
the American Conference championship, that has relevance because the winner
is going to probably be the highest rated G five
and get in. You would have that if the if
you do have a twelve to zero and eleven in one,
you know, we'll see what happens with Boise, We'll see
what happens with Liberty and so on.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
All right, so that would have relevance.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Then all of a sudden, I think you have unearthed
relevance of the next week, because then whoever loses Game
one seeding the conference championship and a slot in the
playoff to the winner might have a chance to grab
it at large next week. But no, no, that they wouldn't.
That's right, because they've already they've already set the playoff
by then.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
I will say, if let's say it's a competitive aac
talium and yes, we turned this into you know, turns
into service academy here. If I think Army Navy should
both be in the playoff, that is my offic as
the official stance, and I'll speak on behalf of Dave
Campbell's Texas Football too.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
If it's if it's if they pinched.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
The regular season thirteen and oh and twelve and one
going to Army Navy, Uh, they should be in the
Uh they should both be in the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
Okay, I'm with you on that. All right.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
He's Greg Temper, managing editor Dave Campbell's Texas Football Magazine.
Join us weekly for Service Academy talk here on the
program next week we'll discuss whatever happened to Air Force.
All right, Hey, thanks, and I'll see you on Friday night.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Looking forward to my friend.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
All right, that's Greg Temper there. Imagine if that happened. There,
aren't we Navy I did two twelve and Oh's going
into that. God couldn't happen, right, Who knows. We'll have
more coming up on Sports Radio AM thirteen nine of
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