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September 4, 2025 • 18 mins
KXAN's Roger Wallace joins the Craig Way show to break down the results and matchups from a busy weekend for area high school football programs.

Roger reacts to Texas' loss to Ohio State, Steve Sarkisian's comments, and shares his thoughts on the Dallas Cowboys' season opener tonight.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The voice of the Texas Longhorns and Hall of Fame
broadcaster Craig Way.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
Happy to have you with us on a Thursday afternoon,
Happy as always to visit WITHOM, a broadcast partner on
Longhorn football and baseball, and also, like I said in
the rotation, with our men's and women's basketball broadcast as well.
Day job, however is the sports director k xa N
and they're play by play voice for their high school

(00:29):
football game of the Week coverage which is underway again.
Roger Wallace joins us underway, witch Sea. Is it seventeen
seasons now for you?

Speaker 1 (00:39):
Sixteen sixteen?

Speaker 2 (00:40):
And how many? How many years? How many what used
to be Taco Shack Bowl now Show Creek showdowns? Have
you done?

Speaker 1 (00:52):
How many have we done? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (00:53):
How many?

Speaker 1 (00:54):
It is all but.

Speaker 3 (00:55):
One because the COVID year they didn't remember the bigger
schools open later. Yeah, from the season, so we opened
at Wimberley. I believe it was Canyon Lake Wimberley and
the COVID season and did not do Taco Shack. So
all but one have been that opener at House.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
Parker now and this is not in any way, shape
or form meant to take a poke at our good
friends from the AISD because we appreciate their cooperation. But
what would you say, it was probably a little bit
out of the ordinary your broadcast set up last Thursday night.

Speaker 3 (01:30):
We're going with the fact that we struggled through this
year to get to next year's payoff.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
And if you've driven down Lamar.

Speaker 3 (01:38):
And you've seen on the east side of the stadium
there's no secondary press box, but there is a big
concrete shaft which tells me there's gonna be an elevator,
and we hear there's gonna be a press box, there's
gonna be much better internet capabilities and things like that.
So we feel like we did our part this year.
The payoff will be next year and beyond.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
Yeah, you guys were basically working outside, right.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
It wasn't terrible, Craig.

Speaker 3 (02:04):
We were on the west side, so we didn't have
the sun and there was a little bit of breeze.
H And as you know you've done enough high school
games outside, there is a different feel, even compared to
open windows. There is a different feel in the stands.
You're a little bit closer, sidelines are a little bit clear.
No nobody stood in front of US, So I didn't

(02:25):
mind it. Now, I would mind it less in mid
October than late August. But you and I did a
game in fact same place we're going to be tonight
in the stands because of COVID protocol as well, and
that wasn't terrible.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
You're right, What was that, Bowie and Sam Marcus? I think, yeah,
a few years ago, and I'd mentioned I'm gonna be
joining Roger for the call tonight out at Burger and
over the years, and I on our on our conference
call with coach Ables a couple of days ago, I
joked with him being the dean of high school football

(02:59):
coach in the area in the Greater Austin area something
like thirty two years or some thirty four years. I
guess he's been doing it about as long as he's
been the head coach, as long as I've been doing
the play by played for Texas or our numbers matched
up on that. And he said what I've always said,
it It only means he's old, is the way he
describes it. But he's been effective and he's been a pillar,

(03:22):
I would say in the high school football community in
the Greater Austin area for sure.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
Yeah, what's truck me.

Speaker 3 (03:28):
Craig is when he talked about how long he's been
at Boot, he said, we opened thirty eight years ago.

Speaker 1 (03:33):
And he's been there the entire time.

Speaker 3 (03:36):
So yeah, as you mentioned, twenty fourth year as head coach,
they're you know, they're in a tough spot as we
all know, because of the district they're in. And the
realistic part about that district is West Lake and Lake Travis.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
Usually mean you're playing for two playoff spots.

Speaker 3 (03:51):
That's just kind of the way it is because they
are perennial playoff teams and you throw in dripping springs
and what they've done lately and last year they missed out,
lost that that Austin High game, missed out. But yeah,
for aennial playoff team, always competitive, always big and strong.
In anybody you talk to, including Chad Scott, you know
that they're going to talk about how well coach Booe is.

Speaker 2 (04:12):
You know, the interesting thing we talk about that is
that that Booie would still obviously pop into the Division
one bracket, assuming in the playoffs, unless Del Valley were
to make it. In addition obviously to Lake Travis, who
has the largest enrollment in the district, Del Valley is
second and then Bowie is third and Westlake not that

(04:33):
far behind. But there is that difference there between going
Division one and Division two. And you know, I'm not
sure when you're talking about matching up with twenty five
six A, I'm not sure which is the better bracket
you want to be in anyway, given the fact that
vander griff is in the D two bracket. But round

(04:54):
Rock has proven to be tough when they've gone into
the D one bracket in the past. And of course
that district only seems to come down to the final
Friday night of the regular season, not only to decide one,
maybe even two playoff spots, but also who's going to
slide up to D one and who's going to be
down in D two.

Speaker 3 (05:11):
Well, and you know, nine teams, So this is it
for Visita tonight. This is their tune up and then
they get after it against round Rock next week in
the district opener, whereas twenty six is eight or seven teams,
so you only have the six six game schedule.

Speaker 1 (05:26):
But yeah, that's I mean, you talk about earning it.

Speaker 3 (05:28):
You get through your top four in a nine team district,
and you've earned that playoff spot, and I think Vista,
don't you will be one of those teams fighting for
three to four playoff spot and then trying to avoid
that dreaded five.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
Yeah, I think you're right, and they've been able to
get it under Chad Scott past couple of years, and
so looking at it, I think they're in a battle
with McNeil maybe Huddo in that I think Vandergriff and
round Rock are probably almost given commodities. Even a Van
comes off. That surprising loss to Dripping Spring surprising only

(06:04):
in the way that Dripping Springs kind of dominated the game,
because we both know Galan Zimmerman's done an outstanding job
at Drip. It's just that we're not used to seeing
Vandergriff take one on the chin by that account that early,
and they got to pick themselves up and dust themselves
off to get ready for Cedar Park, which is doing
the same thing after losing a Harker last week.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
Well I was Senior Park last year the Vandergriff and
then Vanderriff didn't lose again. Rond Rock also lost their
opener up at Shoemaker last Thursday night.

Speaker 3 (06:34):
So yeah, as far as the perennial powers in that district,
and again when you're playing district opener next weekend, you
a little more urgency.

Speaker 2 (06:43):
This weekend, I wanted to get to one more high
school note. Then we'll move on to the Loghorns and
then in centure stations carrying the Cowboys game, and I
will get to them as well.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
But I wanted to.

Speaker 2 (06:55):
Give you a chance to tell folks a little bit
about anybody that's watched kiy eksh and news or the
programming has seeing the promos for the streaming platform that
k x AN has now k x and Plus, and
there's a lot of great news and weather content and
features and all that other stuff. But you guys are
also availing yourselves of it in terms of the high

(07:15):
school football picture.

Speaker 3 (07:17):
Yeah, I mean that's that's a great platform for for
high school sports. And tonight's game will not be on Plus,
but tomorrow's Westlake San Benito game will be on KXAM Plus.

Speaker 1 (07:28):
Again, it's a free app and you can download it
h and not.

Speaker 3 (07:31):
Only watch those games, but the plan is to archive
our Thursday games.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
We've never been able to do that before, So if
you don't.

Speaker 3 (07:38):
See tonight, hopefully by sometime this weekend or early next week,
the game will be archive.

Speaker 1 (07:43):
We've got a lot of other content we do.

Speaker 3 (07:45):
Throughout the week with with ut football coverage and like
you guys, we partnered with Third and Longhorn.

Speaker 1 (07:51):
Uh so we do some some stuff.

Speaker 3 (07:52):
Yeah, but it's it's Taylor made for high school sports
because you know the hard part about televising high schools,
and we're lucky we have three stations here. We're going
to be competing with ourselves tonight, as you mentioned, because
we got the Cowboys on KASAN and we've got high
school on KBDO.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
But when you have that.

Speaker 3 (08:10):
Plus channel, that's a different outlet where you don't have
to preempt any programming or build in any program on TV. Now,
it's great that we can do it, and we've been
doing it for a long time, and I think people
enjoy having that option of just you know, clicking the dial.
But yeah, the KISA and Plus app is going to
be a great tool for all of the sports coverage.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
Roger Rolls joining us here on thirteen under the Zone.
Let's move to the Loghorns. And I was asked earlier
today on the program about what the mood was like
and I said, you know, for fans, and I said,
obviously there was going to be quite a bit of
being glum after the after the first game, I said,
some of that melts away, but there's also going to

(08:52):
be this deal and it just kind of hangs over
a program. Is it not the loss so much, but
and even if they had one, this would have less
of an effect. But certainly the loss is that the
next three weeks to a lot of long Horn fans
really aren't going to matter to them that much, you know,
playing San Jose State and UTAP and Sam Houston, three

(09:13):
teams they should defeat, and then there's an open date.
And I don't know how many times you heard it,
but I've certainly heard it and read it about well,
we really won't know how good this team might be
until October fourth, when they go to Gainesville.

Speaker 3 (09:26):
Yeah, and then that was, like you said, that was
gonna be the reality no matter what happened on Saturday,
And I think that also kind of adds to the
disappointment of having to.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
Have that loss.

Speaker 3 (09:36):
Hang Now, I think if they lost that game twenty
seven to twenty, there might be a little different feeling,
because first of all, they were the underdog at Ohio State.
But it's the fact that the concern about the offense
after one game is what everybody is talking about. And
that's where you get into these next three weeks, and
whatever they do, I'm not so sure it's going to
really swing the pendulum, other than if they struggle.

Speaker 1 (09:59):
But I don't anticipate that happen. But you're right, it's
a strange schedule.

Speaker 3 (10:03):
Three straight non conference, a week off and then they
don't play on their home turf until November.

Speaker 1 (10:08):
Just kind of the way it is. And I always say,
you know, the fans have to sit on it and.

Speaker 3 (10:11):
Talk about it and do all that for a week,
and you hear about it, and I hear about it.
The team went back to work on Sunday and Monday,
and yeah, sure it's stung. They don't have time to
worry about it. All those players are just playing for
jobs and trying to stay afloat make sure they do
with the coaching staff asks of them.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
Let me ask you a question from the positive perspective.
Was there a specific player offensively or defensively who I
hesitate to use the word surprised, but I'll go ahead
and say it's somebody that kind of stuck out to you,
stood out, maybe surprised you a little bit by his

(10:50):
performance last Saturday offense or defense offense.

Speaker 3 (10:55):
It didn't surprise me, but people saw it. And that's
tied end Jack Andres. I think he's going to have
a big year. I think if you're the tight end
in a Sark offense, you're set up for a big year.
And I think he showed especially that play down the
sideline Arch put it.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
I mean, you know a lot of criticism of Arch.

Speaker 3 (11:12):
I mean, he put that ball the only place he
could put it with two defenders, and Andres had to
make a play.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
No, he's going to take a big hit.

Speaker 3 (11:19):
And also they run that little screen where he splits
off from his tight end spot and then we saw
he can run without after the catch. So it wasn't
a surprise, but just you know, wanted to see it
in a Longhorn uniform.

Speaker 1 (11:30):
And I think he's going to be a big weapon
all season.

Speaker 3 (11:33):
On Grayson Littleton, that's where you start, just because he's
a freshman, just because it was his first game and
he made plays, and well that's what you want on
the secondaries. You want guys that can make plays and
knock balls away, and I think he's going to only
get better.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
So I guess off the top of my head, those
are Leon la Fowl.

Speaker 3 (11:49):
We saw him last year, so that wasn't a big surprise,
but you know, he was He was in on so
many plays as well.

Speaker 2 (11:55):
Were you amused? As I was on that media's in
with Sark this morning when he was at asked about
Grayson Littleton, in his response was the long lines I've
been trying to tell you guys about this guy. You
guys keep asking me about other guys that keep coming
back to Grace and Littleton. I guess because people, uh
maybe don't expect a true freshman to have an impact

(12:18):
on the game, and he did have an impact on
the game last week.

Speaker 1 (12:21):
Yeah, it's funny.

Speaker 3 (12:22):
You know, Sark is very aware and he not only
answers the question, but he remembers the topics and the storylines,
and so yeah, I thought that was that was pretty funny. That. Okay,
let's kind of put that to bed. We expect him
to be a big time player. Sure he wanted to
see it under the you know, in a Saturday afternoon
game of all places at Ohio State, but Yeah. I

(12:44):
think that's the thing. These guys have a pretty good
idea of what they have. They just wanted to see
it live. And I think they saw it with a
few guys on on Saturday. I did think it was interesting.
Also on Monday Craig when he talked about that receiver
room and and he said, oh, than Dylan mccutch and
the freshman weren't ready, and the next one would be
Ryan Niblett. I think that might have surprised some people

(13:05):
because we've heard so much about college Lockett and French
and some of the other guys that Sarks like, you
are slow your role on that.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
Yeah, another guy that he continues to tell me now
he didn't get in, didn't get on the field last
week that I saw, but and certainly didn't make a catch.
But Sark is really high on that red shirt freshman
Aaron Butler, and said watch him. He said that to
me again last night when we were talking, as they
like to say, offline before we got on the air,

(13:35):
and he was looking over my notes and my broadcast charts,
and he pointed to Aaron Butler and said, he's coming,
He's coming, He's getting there. And then we had Jeff
Banks on with us as our guest, and he said,
and I couldn't agree with more about this. It probably
escaped the notice of not just long worn fans, but

(13:57):
people watching the game last Saturday. But he was praising
Ryan Nibblett for the way he handled the punts, the
situation of the breeze and the changing breeze, and how
he made sure nobody was going to try to field
it in a way they shouldn't. He did feel that
one on one hop that had a good little kickstart

(14:17):
when he did, but the rest of the time he's
having to chase that ball sideline the sideline. They were
really impressed with what he did.

Speaker 3 (14:24):
Yeah, that's tough. I mean, that's a part of the game.
We don't really think about that much until something either
goes really bad or really good. But it's the stuff
in the middle that I'm sure the coaches are much
more concerned about. And yeah, and they were making a
concerted effort to try to keep it away from him,
yet he had to track it down and see if
he can avoid losing any more field positions. So yeah,

(14:46):
that's a part of the game that sometimes, as you said,
goes relatively unnoticed.

Speaker 1 (14:51):
That you know, that's that hitting yardage you talk about.

Speaker 2 (14:56):
Let me get your thoughts on the Cowboys. Your station's
carrying it tonight, which is a relief. Right at this
time last year, it was kind of up in the
airs to whether you guys were even going to be
able to carry the game.

Speaker 3 (15:07):
Yeah, the Fortunately there's no retransmission agreements to deal with.
I know last week a different company could have affected
a different network, but they got things worked out. But yeah,
obviously this is going to be huge Cowboys Eagles opener,
the curiosity after the trade of Michael Parsons and in

(15:31):
just this rivalry without the fact that it's opening night
and the Eagles are going to hang their banner, and
I mean, it's going to be a massive number. But
you know, Craig, we love those surfers, So keep that
remote handy, and you know, you just bounce back and
forth between us and the Cowboys. We'll start at seven
thirty pregame show. Oh by the way, mentioned KAXAM plus,

(15:52):
so Football Night in America is at six o'clock, So
we're actually going to be on our six o'clock newscast
on KICKSAM plus because of Football in America so that's
another tool that is available to us. Rather than just
wipe out the newscast, you can still get your news,
your weather, your sports at six and then at six
point thirty, you know, if you want to go back

(16:12):
to the pregame show.

Speaker 1 (16:13):
I'm trying to sell it as hard as I can here.

Speaker 2 (16:15):
Yeah, I start to say, so, you still have to
put in a full day's work regardless.

Speaker 1 (16:18):
I do. I do.

Speaker 3 (16:20):
I'll head down to Berger and just a little bit
and we'll take care of that and then we'll see
it up.

Speaker 1 (16:26):
For the game.

Speaker 2 (16:27):
All right, Hey, I'll see you down there. I appreciate
it and look forward to working with you tonight. It'll
be a lot of fun.

Speaker 1 (16:31):
All right, thanks for having me on you bet.

Speaker 2 (16:33):
That's Roger Wallace k XA in and again, yeah, we'll
be on the call for Vister Ridget Bowie from Burger
stateiuments to seven thirty kickoff there on KBVO channel fifty
one there and as he points out, it's a busy
night well with the Cowboys came on k x AN.
They'll actually do their six o'clock six pm newscast on

(16:54):
KXAM Plus. They've got that extra streaming platform and there's
going to be, like he said, archived high school football
games on there tomorrow night West Lakes game, And let
me tell you, that's a relief for a lot of
folks who weren't you know, who might be Westlake fans,
who might be interested in Westlake but weren't necessarily interested

(17:15):
in a drive to the valley to see them place
at San Benito tomorrow night. So it'll be on the streaming.
The streaming platform thing has really come a long way
with high school football. I'm calling Vana Griffs Cedar Park
tomorrow night on the Victory Plus sports app, the one
that televises the Dallas Stars game. They're doing a high

(17:37):
school game of the week on Friday night through their
streaming platform, leading into playoffs, and then they will be
the group that televises all the high school football state
championships of Texas. So it's kind of the way it's
going with the streaming services and the streaming platforms. All right,
up deck, we'll bring you today's edition of Inconceivable. When

(17:59):
we continue you here, I'm thirteen ound of the Zone
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