December 24, 2025 • 23 mins
Greg Tepper, the Editor-in-Chief of Dave Campell's Texas Football Magazine joins the program for a look back on the high school football state championships and a discussion of the College Football Playoff!
They discuss standout performances, programs and storylines from another action-packed season of high school football in the Lone Star State!
They discuss standout performances, programs and storylines from another action-packed season of high school football in the Lone Star State!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The corn cob, pine down, button nose, and two eyes
made cold brow. Steve. The Snowman is a fairy tale.
They see he was made of snow, but the children
know how he came to life. One day, Okay, I
had this crossed my mind.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Since we were doing all holiday music yesterday and today,
the final two days that we're on the air before
the Christmas break, that when we get to Tuesday and
we have Greg tepperon. Remember, throughout the course of the season,
Tuesday has been the text and Tuesday Children, and we
always hear from the iconic Willie Nelson in three o'clock hour.
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So why not just put the two together and have
Willie Nelson doing Christmas. After all, we have the iconic
editor in chief of Dave Campbells Texas Football Magazine with
us for one final time this season, Greg tech So
it only seems sitting right TEP have a little Willie
doing Frosty the Snowman to lead us into the holiday listen.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
I am honored, honored to be introduced by Willie Nelson Christmas.
That is that's the soundtrack of my childhood. That was
Willie Nelson Christmas. You know, you get that kind of
like old school country Christmas.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
That's that's that's what was running through the Tupper household
when I was growing up.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
It's good stuff. It's good stuff.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
We have plenty to discuss with regard to the end
of the high school football season, and we'll get to
that in a few minutes, but first let's kind of
put the bow on the college football season and and
for Texas A and m unfortunately the boat came a
little quicker than they were they were planning on. And
I know you were working and then I was working
while that was going on, that that game on Saturday
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against Miami, and and you were working the five A
Division two state championship game with Southolk Cliff winning uh
there with Ted Emrick. And then I was working the
six A D one with Isaiah Stanback on the Duncanville
North Shore game.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
And we'll get to those in a moment. But I
know you've had.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
A chance to review this thing and how it all
kind of ended up unrattling unfortunately for.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
The AGGI yeah, I'll tell you that.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
You know, you know, I think all all of a
sud Aggie friends and you'll he'll you'll hear the phrase
batter to Aggie syndrome.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
I don't know if this year is going to end
up helping that because this end to the.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Season, right the final flurry here, which included that really
bizarre game against South Carolina where they nearly where they
dug themselves a huge hole, but they ended up roaring back,
and then the lost to Texas and then the loss
UH to UH to Miami and the playoffs. I mean
that is for a team that had been flying high
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and people had been talking about in those on the
very short list of like hey, you know and talk
about teams that can win the national championship. For it
to come apart as quickly and as suddenly as it
did was really surprising to me.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
I think the biggest thing was, you know, I think.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
People are gonna look at the strain of schedule and
they're gonna say, okay, well who they play? You know what, what
ended up happening. I think there's a reason why arguments
to be made that they beat up on a lot
of the smaller, smaller fish of the SEC in route there.
But I think what is more surprising to me is
that Marcel Read, their quarterback, who had been so good
all year long, just seemingly lost him playing and simple
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and looked like a shell of himself. And I'm not
really sure what happened. I don't know if he's battling
through injury. I don't know if maybe just the book
got out on him. I know that obviously he was
under a lot more pressure in a lot of those games.
South Carolina, Texas, and Miami all have very very good fronts,
and so maybe it's just as simple as that, But
I think that's probably the most disappointing thing for aggubants.
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I will also say this, if you guys ever have
the means to get updates on a Texas A and
M playoff game from the voice of the Texas Longhorns
while you're calling a high school football game, it was
a truly bizarre situation, like a bizarre feeling there. It
was like Craig Way is giving me updates on my
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and he missed another.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Field goal, and I'm like, what is going on?
Speaker 3 (04:03):
What is my life right now? It was a singular
strange experience for me.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
I'm just getting used to it byself temper.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
So for people who don't understand the dynamic, uh, we were,
even though we were not on the same telecast of
that specific game or the one after. We did work
together on the two A Division two game on Thursday morning,
which we'll get to in a moment, but the but
so so temper is working there with the outstanding Ted
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Emerk and they're calling the five A Division two game.
And and for want of a better place to hang out,
because this was a Dallas Cowboys home weekend or home
loss weekend.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Uh that that at at and T so we.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
At Victory Plus for the telecast, did not have access
to the network television booth, which is I've said on
many occasions is palatial. You could bury bodies in it.
It has its own bathroom, it's and it's incredible. But
what Victory Plus did and before them, we've done it
a couple of times with Fox Sports Southwest, is to
get the adjacent area beside it and kind of pipe
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and drape it off and even though we're kind of
outside among the masses, were separated enough to where we
still have the great sight lines and all of that. Now,
the the the difference between that and the booths. Another
difference is because it's not as big as the booth.
If you go into that area, there's not an awful
lot of space to just go and sit down and
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wander around and all that kind of stuff. Where we
were so basically I'm almost kind of right behind the guys,
just sitting back in a chair, but I had Texas
A and m and Miami on the iPad and I
and so I felt compelled when those guys took a
break because I knew a new temper was interested in it.
And I would say, Miami missed another field goal, it's
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still three to nothing, then it's three three, and then yeah,
and then oh they got a touch Marshall read just
through another interception. There was that kind of conversation going on.
So you found that kind of bizarre huh oh.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
My gosh, a singular experience in my life that was
that was very odd. And you're you've painted a picture
well that we're all kind of all kind of not
crammed to know there's enough space, but like Craig is
more or less sitting about three feet behind me, and
so then they'll go to it, they'll go to the
you know, the two minute time out or something like that,
and I'll take off my headset and Craig will lean
over to me.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
And be like Miami's driving.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Like it was a very very odd for me as
a guy who's grown up listening to him called Longhorn Games,
and he suddenly invested in getting updates from A and
M and Miami. But hey, I'll say this, you painted
the picture well as you always do, so I knew
exactly what's going on.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Okay, all right, So now, uh, with the Aggie's out.
Uh and and and I know long worn fans were
kind of having a chuckle about this about Texas, A
and M and Oklahoma, we're out in Texas has one
game to go, and like, okay, it's the Citrus Bowl,
you know, understand the situation. But really and truly the
one carrying the banner for the state of Texas down
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the postseasons Texas Tech is they get ready to face
Oregon in the Orange Bowl.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
And I think a fascinating strength on strength matchup here
of that high powered Oregon offense, you know, and what
looked really really good against an overmatched but fisty, you
know JMU team against what has been a Texas Tech
defense that has been relentless. And we also know because
somebody asked him. Somebody asked me with mcguar. I think
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the really good question and a fair one, which was
after it all came out and it was decided that
they were going to play the winner of j and
You at Oregon, they asked him, They're like, how much
attention are you going to pay to game planning for
Oregon versus game planning for James Madison?
Speaker 4 (07:48):
And he was honest about it.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
He goes, We're focused on Oregon. We were focused on Oregon.
We may have a couple of grad assistants or something
like that, kind of doing a little bit of background
work on JMU, but we feel pretty good, don't want
to seeing the Ducks, And sure enough he's right.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
So I'm absolutely fascinated by this matchup.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
That good on good.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
Can Oregon run the ball.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
Is going to be the real question for me because
essentially nobody's been able to run the ball on Texas Tech, Canda, Ducks,
Crack Dot Code. It'll be There'll be a lot of
fun down there in Miami. I think I think we're
in for, you know, a real, real whale of a
ball game. We had two really good ones in the
first round with Alabama or alabam Oklahoma and in Miami a.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
M but I think we're in for a great second round.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Here coaching change things.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Let me get your thoughts first, North Texas when Neil
Brown coming in to replace Eric Morris.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
That's happening there.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
And then I know down here it raised a few
eyebrows when Stark made the decision not to retain Pete
Quick Kowski's defensive Coortnator and Duyne Keenan the second are
bringing Will much Champ back to Austin and Jabbar Juloup
to be the new running backs coach, and they'll still
have another position to fill. Johnny Nance and the linebackers
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coach will call the defensive signals in the Citrus Bowl
for Texas. So about those two coaching moves that had
happened in this.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
State, Yeah, you know, for Neil Brown taking over at
North Texas, I think that that's a really nice landing
spot for him. He was very strong, I think at
times in the time at West Virginia it just.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
Didn't work out all that well.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
What's going to be interesting is how he builds his staff,
and you're starting to see that with what he did
bring in Ray Gates, the North Prowley head coach, to
be on his staff there in a key role. There
is the guy who won a state championship in twenty
twenty four at the highest level, who has deep, deep,
deep ties in North Texas and across the state of Texas.
I think that's really really remarkable. And then on the
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four y Akers, those two changes are a little bit
strange to me. I they they catch a lot of
people by surprise, and I think that you know, if
you were what that signals to me, Sarkesian understood that
like something had to change and there was going to
have to be some sort of sacrificial lamb for a
team that frankly fell short of, you know, admittedly very
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losty expectations. And in the end it is pe Kwatowski
who is the sacrificial lamb.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
Bringing will muschampion.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Is going to be really interesting because I know that
that this is a guy who, you know, the last
time we saw him as a head coach it didn't
go particularly well. But as a defensive coordinator he is
known far and wide as one of the very best.
And certainly there are guys like that that you see
that are more suited being a d C than they
are a head coach. I think wayde Phillips springs to mind.
Wade Philps was in the NFL, was a guy who
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was okay, well you know he's not a very good
head coach, but boy, howd he can he coordinate a defense.
I think that that's got to be the hope for
the Texas faithful that Will Mutsham can can continue.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
That kind of magic.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Is it safe to say that the Citrus Bowl has
the weirdest You've got two flagship programs of college football,
two of the top five winning his programs of all
time in college football. And this is the easily, I
think the most bizarre bowl matchup because of everything that's happened,
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mainly up in Ann Arbor, but also down in Austin
going into this game.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
Yeah, it is.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
It's it's strange because you've got obviously, you know, for Texas,
you know, maybe have changed events coordinator or rather surprising
one I think is one thing, uh you know, but
but what compared to what's going on an Arbor it
is is I mean, with this hog he's going to
take over and and kind of limp this team into
the Citrus Bowl.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
It is.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
It is a bizarre, chaotic game that I think in
a vacuum. You would look at this and say, this
is a really interesting matchup, especially because I think that
Michigan actually matches up pretty well with Texas in what
Texas does well, They are pretty good at mitigating specifically,
you know, they they are able to run the ball
well in Texas, you know, pretty good that's slowed down,
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you know, at least recently, and have been pretty good.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
At slown down the run.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Now the question is going to be how much of
all of these things off the field take a toll
on how do they shape the game? That I think
is is one of the more fascinating subplots.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
Of this game. And and you know, it's one.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
Of those things the bulls are largely who wants to
be there? And now you kind of wonder from Michigan
after being in the cross hairs for the past two weeks, uh,
you know, considering all what's going on, Sharon Moore, you
wonder how much they just want to be there or
how much they just want to say, you know, well,
let's just let's get to the offseason and reset.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Here to say nothing of the fact that Texas is
down with sixty five scholarship players because of the opt outs,
those going to the NFL Draft and those who are
entering the portal. That's why I said, such a bizarre deal.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
Yeah, it is, and and and and for for Texas,
you know, an opportunity for heroes to be made. Like
if you're on if you're on the if you're on
the roster and you're sticking around and you want to
you want to impress the staff, you'll have an opportunity
because they're gonna be uh, they're gonna be light.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
On the side line a little bit.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
And and certainly that's going to be the new thing
I think across college football is that especially these high profile,
big brand name programs that have ultimately eyes of college
football playoff.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
For Bus, you're gonna end up having.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
These types of situations.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
But for Texas, they have taken it to a relatively
logical extreme.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Here, Greg Temper, editor in chief, take Campbell's Texas Football
Magazine on with us for our seasonal wrap up. Okay,
let's move to high school football and we're moving to
the state championship recap. If I just said state championship recap,
first player that comes to mind it would be who.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
Oh wow.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
It's strange because I think that there are two one
of them, and I don't think they're gonna be who
people expect. One of them is Xader Barnett, the outstanding
athlete for Yoakum, who was the SMU signan who was
unconscious in their game against against Grant you bring home
the state championship time a record with five touchdowns on
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the ground, untouchable in that game.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
He was sentational the other one. And this is gonna be.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Real deep cut, but you will appreciate it. Let's give
some love to body Ham. Absolutely, Jaydon Jabers if you
didn't if you didn't catch the second game of the
week at two o'clock on Wednesday and the one Animasion
two title game, the small consification right, body Ham, they're
running backs for Jaydon got a total of thirteen touchdowns
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in this game. Thirteen he ran for ten and he
threw for three in a in a romp over Richland Springs.
That was one of the more fun games of the weekend.
But body Ham is every year. I think one of
the things that I've kind of gotten into is figuring
out who the full hero is of the of the
state champions because it's always won. Last year was Kate
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Bradling from Smithton Valley their quarterback who was just like
they put a linebacker at quarterback, and it was just like,
let's see if this works. And it did this year.
Speaker 4 (15:01):
I think the folk here is body Ham. He's gonna
live forever.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Yeah, yeah, that was the first name that came to
mind for me.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Okay, Carter Gates had the piece on Texas Football dot
com for folks who want to subscribe to Dave Campbell's
Texas Football magazine and the great online content. He has
the piece on the All State championship team and I
just love this.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
Dan.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
First, let me ask you this, said Carter do this
by himself? Or did everybody pitch in on this? On
the staff?
Speaker 3 (15:26):
He had the first draft and then he kind of
ran it by the staff and we we we tweaked
it a little bit. But ultimately I'll blame Carter for this.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
All right, all right, very good quarterback. Cason Carney a monster.
I didn't really have an argument with that, and you
and I got to work that telecast. Was anybody else
from the quarterback perspective that you said might have put
him a head a case in on this deal?
Speaker 4 (15:50):
Now?
Speaker 3 (15:50):
I don't think so. I mean, that's what's so strange
is that I think this was the year there were
there were a couple other position groups that are way
tougher here, but quarterback, I think it was.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
It was not the year the quarterback at the at
the c Championship games.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
But Cason Karney, You and I saw him on Thursday morning,
simply die, simply spectacular in leading them against a ferocious
Shiner front.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
And leading them in the back back title. So yeah,
I think I.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
Think Cason Karney was the right call considering kind of
the way the rest of the games.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Play nowt And by the way, side note, since you
brought up Shiner, Roger Rolstein were talking about, you know,
getting ready, h putting our bowl prep together to this
deal and and we said, you know, there's gonna be
a lot of guys out and and and Roger said, yeah,
it'd be pretty thin. I said, it might be like
a one and a half beat like what we got
for Shiner, you know, for the deal something like that.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
Yeah, we did, we Yeah, you and I. You and
I had like there was like a backup Mike linebacker,
but like not a backup wheel linebacker.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
Stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
And Clayton Fritz wasn't coming out of the game anyway,
so it didn't it didn't really back. Okay, running backs
kJ Edwards and Carthage, uh and uh and and then uh.
You mentioned Xavier Barnett from Yoakum as the two guys there.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
How about those two.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
Man you go any any other direction, This is where
it was really stacked. I mean, you could go with
Jason Moralis the running back for for for Yoakum, who
was also exceptional in that ball again. You can go
in Mikhail Trotter at South Oakliff who was really really strong.
You go with Sarad Baker at DeSoto, right, I mean
there were this was in my estimation, this was the
year of the running back at.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
The state championship games.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
I can't necessarily fault them too much because kJ Edwards
was sensational, as was a Xager Barnett. But but that
was a that's a real that's a real tough choice
there to figure out how you're going to settle that times.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
There are a lot of big time playmakers.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Yeah, wide receivers Booby Feastern de Sota. I think that's
probably by Acclamation and Rady Slinkard of Grandview.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
Yeah, he was.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Great and in a losing effort, three touchdown catches for him,
you know, for for gram that was that was the
other things that like when you're not throwing the ball
around all the time, you know, Aiden Jurgen's had a
really nice touchdown catch for Stevenville. But that was the
game ended ten nothing right, Uh, you know you had
the Jalen Bocard, who was the stage champions be gaining
the p of six D eight Division one for north
Shore had that big catch about basically the only big
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play of the game. So the defense is dominating and
passing games really being tamped down receivers.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
You know, these were the two guys who really did
stand out.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Yeah, uh and so and folks can see the entire
team and they looked through there and by and large,
I think he did a really really good tide. You know,
guys like Ratt Waller, Scheide and Sakwan None you got
from good from Galena Park, north Shore and Munster standing
as the Canadians would say, side by each along the
defensive front really good and and I would I would
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definitely put on the edge Hudson Woods a Smithson Valley
because of what he did.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
He was tremendous in him winning that because to.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Me, the story, the big storyline of the state championship
games this year with defense, I only think about how
many sensational defensive performances we saw. Okay, so with Gordon,
Gordon's defense against rank And was fantastic. You know, I
thought that Hamilton's defense against Jauquin was excellent.
Speaker 4 (18:59):
Monster shut out Shiner.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Right, we had a game, you know, I thought both
Wall and Newton's defense has played really well. Kilbour Stephenville
was scoreless and a half time. So with North Shorge Duncanville,
you know you had really really and then obviously with
Smithson Valley was able to do. And then South Oakliff
at depthro defense against the number one scoring offense in
five day Division two.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
This was the year of defense for me at the
state championships.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
The final thought here of of the coaches, you know,
Scott Seratus, Scott Serat, it's eleven rings, it's eleven state championships.
That's more than anybody has ever done. He doesn't have
the total number of wins yet, up there with the
Randy Allens and obviously you know Phil Danaher and Gordon
Wood and all all that kind of stuff. Is he
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in the conversation for the greatest of all time or
certainly in the top three or four or something.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
He has to be.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
I mean, I think what he's done is simply the
machine is so amazing. They are in the last decade decade,
they are one hundred and forty four and six, and
they have beaten their opponents by an average of twenty nine.
Speaker 4 (20:09):
Points a game.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
Okay, this is the most dominant run we have seen
over a decade in Texas high school football history. And
he's at the controls of that seventh state championships in
those ten years. And the other thing is that they
are so ruthlessly effective. It doesn't matter who what playmakers
they've got. The the scheme is so good, they're so
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sound defensively, they block really well, they and then they
just schem you up that I think he's got to
be on that short list of the greatest coaches of
all time. I mean, consider this, Craig. He is eleven
in Zerion state championship games. No other UIL eleven nin
coach has even been to eleven title games.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
And he's eleven enough.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Yeah, and say worthy of mentioned certainly in the top ten,
if not top five, would be Claude Mathis at the Soota,
Jason Todd at South Okliff.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
Yeah, those two guys, they've become the number one and
number two, first and second Black coaches. And to win
three three titles, you know, Claude Mathis DeSoto, it's weird
to think about it. They've won three titles in four years.
That's the dynasty, like playing and simple of what he's
built there and so him and then Jason Todd. Obviously
the story has been told over and over. Five consecutive
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stage championship games and three titles in that spam is
absolutely remarkable. I'll put one more out there that I
think is flying under the radar, but Larry Hill Ye
now in the three hundred win club and he's got
now two back to back stage championships with very different
ball clubs too, like there was some significant turnover for
Smithson Valley to go back to back. I mean, Larry
Hill is in that on that short list as well
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as far as the most the best coaches we've seen
in quite some time.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
And by the way, Granger Hunter says, we got to
start talking about Mike Reid in that category.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
A Gordon.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
Yeah, Mike Reid, who has been spectacular and one of
the you know, obviously back.
Speaker 4 (21:57):
To back to back.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
That's I think that is the best six man football
team of all time.
Speaker 4 (22:01):
That's my opinion.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
Twenty twenty five Gordon is going to go down as
the greatest six man football team of all time. The
playmakers they've got. And let's also not forget, in a
very strange bit of kinsman, that Mike Reid did coach
in the eleven nan ranks at one point when he
coached at Hamilton, who brought home their first ever state
championship this year like a couple of hours after he
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coached Gordon to another one.
Speaker 4 (22:23):
So it's all poetry.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
I love the comment from Claude Mathis, who can get
as animated, amped up, fired up as you may. And
CT Steckle says, coach, he won three state titles in
four years?
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Is this a dynasty?
Speaker 2 (22:39):
And he paused and he just calmly said, Yep, it's
a dynasty.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
I don't think there's I think look, if the Golden
State Warriors win three titles in four years, there's no
question there a dynasty.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
So why can't we say the same thing about Theesota.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
What Claude mathis is built there off of I twenty
is certainly on that shortlist of Texas high school football ynasty.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Absolutely, Hey, have a great Christmas, and how much time
do you get away before you have to start pouring
into thinking about the magazine for twenty twenty six.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
I give myself a two week reprieve. I'm not thinking
about this is the last I'm thinking about football for
two weeks. January fifth, I'll be back in the office
and I will get back to the grind.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
But for now, I'm.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
Gonna I'm gonna disconnect and I'm gonna I'm gonna watch
a month.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
At Christmas Carol.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
There you go, popular in your own house. Hey, I
appreciate the time. It was fun all season long, and
I can't wait till we run it back next year.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
I'm looking forward to my friend Mary Christmas, you guys.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
And to you all right.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
That's Greg Tapper, editor in chief Dave Campbell's Texas Football Magazine.
We have more coming up when we can continue here
on this Tuesday afternoon on Sports Radio AM thirteen hundred
Zone and the iHeartRadio app.
The corn cob, pine down, button nose, and two eyes
made cold brow. Steve. The Snowman is a fairy tale.
They see he was made of snow, but the children
know how he came to life. One day, Okay, I
had this crossed my mind.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Since we were doing all holiday music yesterday and today,
the final two days that we're on the air before
the Christmas break, that when we get to Tuesday and
we have Greg tepperon. Remember, throughout the course of the season,
Tuesday has been the text and Tuesday Children, and we
always hear from the iconic Willie Nelson in three o'clock hour.
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So why not just put the two together and have
Willie Nelson doing Christmas. After all, we have the iconic
editor in chief of Dave Campbells Texas Football Magazine with
us for one final time this season, Greg tech So
it only seems sitting right TEP have a little Willie
doing Frosty the Snowman to lead us into the holiday listen.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
I am honored, honored to be introduced by Willie Nelson Christmas.
That is that's the soundtrack of my childhood. That was
Willie Nelson Christmas. You know, you get that kind of
like old school country Christmas.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
That's that's that's what was running through the Tupper household
when I was growing up.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
It's good stuff. It's good stuff.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
We have plenty to discuss with regard to the end
of the high school football season, and we'll get to
that in a few minutes, but first let's kind of
put the bow on the college football season and and
for Texas A and m unfortunately the boat came a
little quicker than they were they were planning on. And
I know you were working and then I was working
while that was going on, that that game on Saturday
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against Miami, and and you were working the five A
Division two state championship game with Southolk Cliff winning uh
there with Ted Emrick. And then I was working the
six A D one with Isaiah Stanback on the Duncanville
North Shore game.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
And we'll get to those in a moment. But I
know you've had.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
A chance to review this thing and how it all
kind of ended up unrattling unfortunately for.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
The AGGI yeah, I'll tell you that.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
You know, you know, I think all all of a
sud Aggie friends and you'll he'll you'll hear the phrase
batter to Aggie syndrome.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
I don't know if this year is going to end
up helping that because this end to the.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Season, right the final flurry here, which included that really
bizarre game against South Carolina where they nearly where they
dug themselves a huge hole, but they ended up roaring back,
and then the lost to Texas and then the loss
UH to UH to Miami and the playoffs. I mean
that is for a team that had been flying high
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and people had been talking about in those on the
very short list of like hey, you know and talk
about teams that can win the national championship. For it
to come apart as quickly and as suddenly as it
did was really surprising to me.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
I think the biggest thing was, you know, I think.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
People are gonna look at the strain of schedule and
they're gonna say, okay, well who they play? You know what, what
ended up happening. I think there's a reason why arguments
to be made that they beat up on a lot
of the smaller, smaller fish of the SEC in route there.
But I think what is more surprising to me is
that Marcel Read, their quarterback, who had been so good
all year long, just seemingly lost him playing and simple
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and looked like a shell of himself. And I'm not
really sure what happened. I don't know if he's battling
through injury. I don't know if maybe just the book
got out on him. I know that obviously he was
under a lot more pressure in a lot of those games.
South Carolina, Texas, and Miami all have very very good fronts,
and so maybe it's just as simple as that, But
I think that's probably the most disappointing thing for aggubants.
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I will also say this, if you guys ever have
the means to get updates on a Texas A and
M playoff game from the voice of the Texas Longhorns
while you're calling a high school football game, it was
a truly bizarre situation, like a bizarre feeling there. It
was like Craig Way is giving me updates on my
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and he missed another.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Field goal, and I'm like, what is going on?
Speaker 3 (04:03):
What is my life right now? It was a singular
strange experience for me.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
I'm just getting used to it byself temper.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
So for people who don't understand the dynamic, uh, we were,
even though we were not on the same telecast of
that specific game or the one after. We did work
together on the two A Division two game on Thursday morning,
which we'll get to in a moment, but the but
so so temper is working there with the outstanding Ted
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Emerk and they're calling the five A Division two game.
And and for want of a better place to hang out,
because this was a Dallas Cowboys home weekend or home
loss weekend.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Uh that that at at and T so we.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
At Victory Plus for the telecast, did not have access
to the network television booth, which is I've said on
many occasions is palatial. You could bury bodies in it.
It has its own bathroom, it's and it's incredible. But
what Victory Plus did and before them, we've done it
a couple of times with Fox Sports Southwest, is to
get the adjacent area beside it and kind of pipe
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and drape it off and even though we're kind of
outside among the masses, were separated enough to where we
still have the great sight lines and all of that. Now,
the the the difference between that and the booths. Another
difference is because it's not as big as the booth.
If you go into that area, there's not an awful
lot of space to just go and sit down and
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wander around and all that kind of stuff. Where we
were so basically I'm almost kind of right behind the guys,
just sitting back in a chair, but I had Texas
A and m and Miami on the iPad and I
and so I felt compelled when those guys took a
break because I knew a new temper was interested in it.
And I would say, Miami missed another field goal, it's
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still three to nothing, then it's three three, and then yeah,
and then oh they got a touch Marshall read just
through another interception. There was that kind of conversation going on.
So you found that kind of bizarre huh oh.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
My gosh, a singular experience in my life that was
that was very odd. And you're you've painted a picture
well that we're all kind of all kind of not
crammed to know there's enough space, but like Craig is
more or less sitting about three feet behind me, and
so then they'll go to it, they'll go to the
you know, the two minute time out or something like that,
and I'll take off my headset and Craig will lean
over to me.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
And be like Miami's driving.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Like it was a very very odd for me as
a guy who's grown up listening to him called Longhorn Games,
and he suddenly invested in getting updates from A and
M and Miami. But hey, I'll say this, you painted
the picture well as you always do, so I knew
exactly what's going on.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Okay, all right, So now, uh, with the Aggie's out.
Uh and and and I know long worn fans were
kind of having a chuckle about this about Texas, A
and M and Oklahoma, we're out in Texas has one
game to go, and like, okay, it's the Citrus Bowl,
you know, understand the situation. But really and truly the
one carrying the banner for the state of Texas down
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the postseasons Texas Tech is they get ready to face
Oregon in the Orange Bowl.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
And I think a fascinating strength on strength matchup here
of that high powered Oregon offense, you know, and what
looked really really good against an overmatched but fisty, you
know JMU team against what has been a Texas Tech
defense that has been relentless. And we also know because
somebody asked him. Somebody asked me with mcguar. I think
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the really good question and a fair one, which was
after it all came out and it was decided that
they were going to play the winner of j and
You at Oregon, they asked him, They're like, how much
attention are you going to pay to game planning for
Oregon versus game planning for James Madison?
Speaker 4 (07:48):
And he was honest about it.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
He goes, We're focused on Oregon. We were focused on Oregon.
We may have a couple of grad assistants or something
like that, kind of doing a little bit of background
work on JMU, but we feel pretty good, don't want
to seeing the Ducks, And sure enough he's right.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
So I'm absolutely fascinated by this matchup.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
That good on good.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
Can Oregon run the ball.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
Is going to be the real question for me because
essentially nobody's been able to run the ball on Texas Tech, Canda, Ducks,
Crack Dot Code. It'll be There'll be a lot of
fun down there in Miami. I think I think we're
in for, you know, a real, real whale of a
ball game. We had two really good ones in the
first round with Alabama or alabam Oklahoma and in Miami a.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
M but I think we're in for a great second round.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Here coaching change things.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Let me get your thoughts first, North Texas when Neil
Brown coming in to replace Eric Morris.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
That's happening there.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
And then I know down here it raised a few
eyebrows when Stark made the decision not to retain Pete
Quick Kowski's defensive Coortnator and Duyne Keenan the second are
bringing Will much Champ back to Austin and Jabbar Juloup
to be the new running backs coach, and they'll still
have another position to fill. Johnny Nance and the linebackers
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coach will call the defensive signals in the Citrus Bowl
for Texas. So about those two coaching moves that had
happened in this.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
State, Yeah, you know, for Neil Brown taking over at
North Texas, I think that that's a really nice landing
spot for him. He was very strong, I think at
times in the time at West Virginia it just.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
Didn't work out all that well.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
What's going to be interesting is how he builds his staff,
and you're starting to see that with what he did
bring in Ray Gates, the North Prowley head coach, to
be on his staff there in a key role. There
is the guy who won a state championship in twenty
twenty four at the highest level, who has deep, deep,
deep ties in North Texas and across the state of Texas.
I think that's really really remarkable. And then on the
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four y Akers, those two changes are a little bit
strange to me. I they they catch a lot of
people by surprise, and I think that you know, if
you were what that signals to me, Sarkesian understood that
like something had to change and there was going to
have to be some sort of sacrificial lamb for a
team that frankly fell short of, you know, admittedly very
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losty expectations. And in the end it is pe Kwatowski
who is the sacrificial lamb.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
Bringing will muschampion.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Is going to be really interesting because I know that
that this is a guy who, you know, the last
time we saw him as a head coach it didn't
go particularly well. But as a defensive coordinator he is
known far and wide as one of the very best.
And certainly there are guys like that that you see
that are more suited being a d C than they
are a head coach. I think wayde Phillips springs to mind.
Wade Philps was in the NFL, was a guy who
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was okay, well you know he's not a very good
head coach, but boy, howd he can he coordinate a defense.
I think that that's got to be the hope for
the Texas faithful that Will Mutsham can can continue.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
That kind of magic.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Is it safe to say that the Citrus Bowl has
the weirdest You've got two flagship programs of college football,
two of the top five winning his programs of all
time in college football. And this is the easily, I
think the most bizarre bowl matchup because of everything that's happened,
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mainly up in Ann Arbor, but also down in Austin
going into this game.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
Yeah, it is.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
It's it's strange because you've got obviously, you know, for Texas,
you know, maybe have changed events coordinator or rather surprising
one I think is one thing, uh you know, but
but what compared to what's going on an Arbor it
is is I mean, with this hog he's going to
take over and and kind of limp this team into
the Citrus Bowl.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
It is.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
It is a bizarre, chaotic game that I think in
a vacuum. You would look at this and say, this
is a really interesting matchup, especially because I think that
Michigan actually matches up pretty well with Texas in what
Texas does well, They are pretty good at mitigating specifically,
you know, they they are able to run the ball
well in Texas, you know, pretty good that's slowed down,
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you know, at least recently, and have been pretty good.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
At slown down the run.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Now the question is going to be how much of
all of these things off the field take a toll
on how do they shape the game? That I think
is is one of the more fascinating subplots.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
Of this game. And and you know, it's one.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
Of those things the bulls are largely who wants to
be there? And now you kind of wonder from Michigan
after being in the cross hairs for the past two weeks, uh,
you know, considering all what's going on, Sharon Moore, you
wonder how much they just want to be there or
how much they just want to say, you know, well,
let's just let's get to the offseason and reset.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Here to say nothing of the fact that Texas is
down with sixty five scholarship players because of the opt outs,
those going to the NFL Draft and those who are
entering the portal. That's why I said, such a bizarre deal.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
Yeah, it is, and and and and for for Texas,
you know, an opportunity for heroes to be made. Like
if you're on if you're on the if you're on
the roster and you're sticking around and you want to
you want to impress the staff, you'll have an opportunity
because they're gonna be uh, they're gonna be light.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
On the side line a little bit.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
And and certainly that's going to be the new thing
I think across college football is that especially these high profile,
big brand name programs that have ultimately eyes of college
football playoff.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
For Bus, you're gonna end up having.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
These types of situations.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
But for Texas, they have taken it to a relatively
logical extreme.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Here, Greg Temper, editor in chief, take Campbell's Texas Football
Magazine on with us for our seasonal wrap up. Okay,
let's move to high school football and we're moving to
the state championship recap. If I just said state championship recap,
first player that comes to mind it would be who.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
Oh wow.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
It's strange because I think that there are two one
of them, and I don't think they're gonna be who
people expect. One of them is Xader Barnett, the outstanding
athlete for Yoakum, who was the SMU signan who was
unconscious in their game against against Grant you bring home
the state championship time a record with five touchdowns on
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the ground, untouchable in that game.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
He was sentational the other one. And this is gonna be.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Real deep cut, but you will appreciate it. Let's give
some love to body Ham. Absolutely, Jaydon Jabers if you
didn't if you didn't catch the second game of the
week at two o'clock on Wednesday and the one Animasion
two title game, the small consification right, body Ham, they're
running backs for Jaydon got a total of thirteen touchdowns
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in this game. Thirteen he ran for ten and he
threw for three in a in a romp over Richland Springs.
That was one of the more fun games of the weekend.
But body Ham is every year. I think one of
the things that I've kind of gotten into is figuring
out who the full hero is of the of the
state champions because it's always won. Last year was Kate
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Bradling from Smithton Valley their quarterback who was just like
they put a linebacker at quarterback, and it was just like,
let's see if this works. And it did this year.
Speaker 4 (15:01):
I think the folk here is body Ham. He's gonna
live forever.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Yeah, yeah, that was the first name that came to
mind for me.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Okay, Carter Gates had the piece on Texas Football dot
com for folks who want to subscribe to Dave Campbell's
Texas Football magazine and the great online content. He has
the piece on the All State championship team and I
just love this.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
Dan.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
First, let me ask you this, said Carter do this
by himself? Or did everybody pitch in on this? On
the staff?
Speaker 3 (15:26):
He had the first draft and then he kind of
ran it by the staff and we we we tweaked
it a little bit. But ultimately I'll blame Carter for this.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
All right, all right, very good quarterback. Cason Carney a monster.
I didn't really have an argument with that, and you
and I got to work that telecast. Was anybody else
from the quarterback perspective that you said might have put
him a head a case in on this deal?
Speaker 4 (15:50):
Now?
Speaker 3 (15:50):
I don't think so. I mean, that's what's so strange
is that I think this was the year there were
there were a couple other position groups that are way
tougher here, but quarterback, I think it was.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
It was not the year the quarterback at the at
the c Championship games.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
But Cason Karney, You and I saw him on Thursday morning,
simply die, simply spectacular in leading them against a ferocious
Shiner front.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
And leading them in the back back title. So yeah,
I think I.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
Think Cason Karney was the right call considering kind of
the way the rest of the games.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Play nowt And by the way, side note, since you
brought up Shiner, Roger Rolstein were talking about, you know,
getting ready, h putting our bowl prep together to this
deal and and we said, you know, there's gonna be
a lot of guys out and and and Roger said, yeah,
it'd be pretty thin. I said, it might be like
a one and a half beat like what we got
for Shiner, you know, for the deal something like that.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
Yeah, we did, we Yeah, you and I. You and
I had like there was like a backup Mike linebacker,
but like not a backup wheel linebacker.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
Stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
And Clayton Fritz wasn't coming out of the game anyway,
so it didn't it didn't really back. Okay, running backs
kJ Edwards and Carthage, uh and uh and and then uh.
You mentioned Xavier Barnett from Yoakum as the two guys there.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
How about those two.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
Man you go any any other direction, This is where
it was really stacked. I mean, you could go with
Jason Moralis the running back for for for Yoakum, who
was also exceptional in that ball again. You can go
in Mikhail Trotter at South Oakliff who was really really strong.
You go with Sarad Baker at DeSoto, right, I mean
there were this was in my estimation, this was the
year of the running back at.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
The state championship games.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
I can't necessarily fault them too much because kJ Edwards
was sensational, as was a Xager Barnett. But but that
was a that's a real that's a real tough choice
there to figure out how you're going to settle that times.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
There are a lot of big time playmakers.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Yeah, wide receivers Booby Feastern de Sota. I think that's
probably by Acclamation and Rady Slinkard of Grandview.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
Yeah, he was.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Great and in a losing effort, three touchdown catches for him,
you know, for for gram that was that was the
other things that like when you're not throwing the ball
around all the time, you know, Aiden Jurgen's had a
really nice touchdown catch for Stevenville. But that was the
game ended ten nothing right, Uh, you know you had
the Jalen Bocard, who was the stage champions be gaining
the p of six D eight Division one for north
Shore had that big catch about basically the only big
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play of the game. So the defense is dominating and
passing games really being tamped down receivers.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
You know, these were the two guys who really did
stand out.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Yeah, uh and so and folks can see the entire
team and they looked through there and by and large,
I think he did a really really good tide. You know,
guys like Ratt Waller, Scheide and Sakwan None you got
from good from Galena Park, north Shore and Munster standing
as the Canadians would say, side by each along the
defensive front really good and and I would I would
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definitely put on the edge Hudson Woods a Smithson Valley
because of what he did.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
He was tremendous in him winning that because to.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Me, the story, the big storyline of the state championship
games this year with defense, I only think about how
many sensational defensive performances we saw. Okay, so with Gordon,
Gordon's defense against rank And was fantastic. You know, I
thought that Hamilton's defense against Jauquin was excellent.
Speaker 4 (18:59):
Monster shut out Shiner.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Right, we had a game, you know, I thought both
Wall and Newton's defense has played really well. Kilbour Stephenville
was scoreless and a half time. So with North Shorge Duncanville,
you know you had really really and then obviously with
Smithson Valley was able to do. And then South Oakliff
at depthro defense against the number one scoring offense in
five day Division two.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
This was the year of defense for me at the
state championships.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
The final thought here of of the coaches, you know,
Scott Seratus, Scott Serat, it's eleven rings, it's eleven state championships.
That's more than anybody has ever done. He doesn't have
the total number of wins yet, up there with the
Randy Allens and obviously you know Phil Danaher and Gordon
Wood and all all that kind of stuff. Is he
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in the conversation for the greatest of all time or
certainly in the top three or four or something.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
He has to be.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
I mean, I think what he's done is simply the
machine is so amazing. They are in the last decade decade,
they are one hundred and forty four and six, and
they have beaten their opponents by an average of twenty nine.
Speaker 4 (20:09):
Points a game.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
Okay, this is the most dominant run we have seen
over a decade in Texas high school football history. And
he's at the controls of that seventh state championships in
those ten years. And the other thing is that they
are so ruthlessly effective. It doesn't matter who what playmakers
they've got. The the scheme is so good, they're so
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sound defensively, they block really well, they and then they
just schem you up that I think he's got to
be on that short list of the greatest coaches of
all time. I mean, consider this, Craig. He is eleven
in Zerion state championship games. No other UIL eleven nin
coach has even been to eleven title games.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
And he's eleven enough.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Yeah, and say worthy of mentioned certainly in the top ten,
if not top five, would be Claude Mathis at the Soota,
Jason Todd at South Okliff.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
Yeah, those two guys, they've become the number one and
number two, first and second Black coaches. And to win
three three titles, you know, Claude Mathis DeSoto, it's weird
to think about it. They've won three titles in four years.
That's the dynasty, like playing and simple of what he's
built there and so him and then Jason Todd. Obviously
the story has been told over and over. Five consecutive
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stage championship games and three titles in that spam is
absolutely remarkable. I'll put one more out there that I
think is flying under the radar, but Larry Hill Ye
now in the three hundred win club and he's got
now two back to back stage championships with very different
ball clubs too, like there was some significant turnover for
Smithson Valley to go back to back. I mean, Larry
Hill is in that on that short list as well
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as far as the most the best coaches we've seen
in quite some time.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
And by the way, Granger Hunter says, we got to
start talking about Mike Reid in that category.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
A Gordon.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
Yeah, Mike Reid, who has been spectacular and one of
the you know, obviously back.
Speaker 4 (21:57):
To back to back.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
That's I think that is the best six man football
team of all time.
Speaker 4 (22:01):
That's my opinion.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
Twenty twenty five Gordon is going to go down as
the greatest six man football team of all time. The
playmakers they've got. And let's also not forget, in a
very strange bit of kinsman, that Mike Reid did coach
in the eleven nan ranks at one point when he
coached at Hamilton, who brought home their first ever state
championship this year like a couple of hours after he
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coached Gordon to another one.
Speaker 4 (22:23):
So it's all poetry.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
I love the comment from Claude Mathis, who can get
as animated, amped up, fired up as you may. And
CT Steckle says, coach, he won three state titles in
four years?
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Is this a dynasty?
Speaker 2 (22:39):
And he paused and he just calmly said, Yep, it's
a dynasty.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
I don't think there's I think look, if the Golden
State Warriors win three titles in four years, there's no
question there a dynasty.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
So why can't we say the same thing about Theesota.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
What Claude mathis is built there off of I twenty
is certainly on that shortlist of Texas high school football ynasty.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Absolutely, Hey, have a great Christmas, and how much time
do you get away before you have to start pouring
into thinking about the magazine for twenty twenty six.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
I give myself a two week reprieve. I'm not thinking
about this is the last I'm thinking about football for
two weeks. January fifth, I'll be back in the office
and I will get back to the grind.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
But for now, I'm.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
Gonna I'm gonna disconnect and I'm gonna I'm gonna watch
a month.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
At Christmas Carol.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
There you go, popular in your own house. Hey, I
appreciate the time. It was fun all season long, and
I can't wait till we run it back next year.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
I'm looking forward to my friend Mary Christmas, you guys.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
And to you all right.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
That's Greg Tapper, editor in chief Dave Campbell's Texas Football Magazine.
We have more coming up when we can continue here
on this Tuesday afternoon on Sports Radio AM thirteen hundred
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